Always good to have a tournament on in the summer for a few weeks.England pre tournament favourites but think they have issues at centre half and left back which will winder their progress.Germans on home soil and France should be difficult to beat.
Quote from: statto on May 22, 2024, 08:02:05 AMAlways good to have a tournament on in the summer for a few weeks.England pre tournament favourites but think they have issues at centre half and left back which will winder their progress.Germans on home soil and France should be difficult to beat.
I looked at that England squad annouced yesterday and I just thought, I dont see the favourites tag here. Yes they have some very talented players in the likes of Kane, Foden, Bellingham and even Rice but we all know that they will be set up poorly for a start. Foden has been Pl player of the year playing in the 10. Bellingham has been playing 10 too. What does Southgate do there... foden to the wing or Bellingham back to being an 8.
Their defence looks poor and will struggle against good attacking units. France would surely be ahead of them.
Very interested to see how Germany go.
Has Foden not been playing on the left wing? De Bruyne is their 10.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2024, 08:54:32 AMHas Foden not been playing on the left wing? De Bruyne is their 10.
Not when kdb was out for long periods.
Portugal are another side with an incredible squad.
Whether Martinez can get the best out of them is another question.
And is Ronaldo a hindrance?
Quote from: lurganblue on May 22, 2024, 08:44:32 AMQuote from: statto on May 22, 2024, 08:02:05 AMAlways good to have a tournament on in the summer for a few weeks.England pre tournament favourites but think they have issues at centre half and left back which will winder their progress.Germans on home soil and France should be difficult to beat.
I looked at that England squad annouced yesterday and I just thought, I dont see the favourites tag here. Yes they have some very talented players in the likes of Kane, Foden, Bellingham and even Rice but we all know that they will be set up poorly for a start. Foden has been Pl player of the year playing in the 10. Bellingham has been playing 10 too. What does Southgate do there... foden to the wing or Bellingham back to being an 8.
Their defence looks poor and will struggle against good attacking units. France would surely be ahead of them.
Very interested to see how Germany go.
The worrying thing is that Southgate grew a set of balls and moved out Rashford and Henderson.
If he continues with picking form players for the tournament (ie not Maguire), and emphasises wingers getting the ball into Kane, then England could be so dangerous.
Havertz 33/1 top scorer 8)
Quote from: lurganblue on May 22, 2024, 08:44:32 AMQuote from: statto on May 22, 2024, 08:02:05 AMAlways good to have a tournament on in the summer for a few weeks.England pre tournament favourites but think they have issues at centre half and left back which will winder their progress.Germans on home soil and France should be difficult to beat.
I looked at that England squad annouced yesterday and I just thought, I dont see the favourites tag here. Yes they have some very talented players in the likes of Kane, Foden, Bellingham and even Rice but we all know that they will be set up poorly for a start. Foden has been Pl player of the year playing in the 10. Bellingham has been playing 10 too. What does Southgate do there... foden to the wing or Bellingham back to being an 8.
Their defence looks poor and will struggle against good attacking units. France would surely be ahead of them.
Very interested to see how Germany go.
They wont be far away with that squad.
I dont rate Southgate either but he did get them to a recent final only beat on pens
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 22, 2024, 09:37:40 AMPortugal are another side with an incredible squad.
Whether Martinez can get the best out of them is another question.
And is Ronaldo a hindrance?
Goalkeepers: Diogo Costa (Porto), Jose Sa (Wolves), Rui Patricio (AS Roma)
Defenders: Antonio Silva (Benfica), Danilo Pereira (Paris St Germain), Diogo Dalot (Manchester United), Goncalo Inacio (Sporting), Joao Cancelo (Barcelona), Nelson Semedo (Wolves), Nuno Mendes (PSG), Pepe (Porto), Ruben Dias (Manchester City)
Midfielders: Bruno Fernandes (Manchester United), Joao Neves (Benfica), Joao Palhinha (Fulham), Otavio Monteiro (Al Nassr), Ruben Neves (Al-Hilal), Vitinha (PSG)
Forwards: Bernardo Silva (Manchester City), Cristiano Ronaldo (Al Nassr), Diogo Jota (Liverpool), Francisco Conceicao (Porto), Goncalo Ramos (PSG), Joao Felix (Barcelona), Pedro Neto (Wolves), Rafael Leao (AC Milan).
Decent alright.
Belgium should be there or there abouts as well given the players they have, but seem to fill the togs at tournaments...
Surely there's a left sided Fullback in England rather than pinning all their hopes on a perennially injured Luke Shaw
Both Branthwaite and Quansa (Liverpool) invited to the extended panel, maybe to put pressure on Maguire, but one of the two need to go as I think Stones is first choice, it's just a matter of who he's paired with, but Southgate has traditionally stuck with the tried and tested Maguire no matter how shíte he's been with Utd.
Quote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2024, 11:39:43 AMBelgium should be there or there abouts as well given the players they have, but seem to fill the togs at tournaments...
Surely there's a left sided Fullback in England rather than pinning all their hopes on a perennially injured Luke ShawI was surprised Mitchell from palace wasn't in the 33. Gomez and Trippier don't give great balance if Shaw is injured or not really up to speed fitness wise.
Both Branthwaite and Quansa (Liverpool) invited to the extended panel, maybe to put pressure on Maguire, but one of the two need to go as I think Stones is first choice, it's just a matter of who he's paired with, but Southgate has traditionally stuck with the tried and tested Maguire no matter how shíte he's been with Utd.
Southgate said he dropped Rashford and others as he picked players on form. He has selected Luke Shaw and Ivan Toney, hardly players in form. Solanke has got nearly 5 times the number of league goals that Toney has.
If Toney goes, he goes for pens only.
Was reading Southgate sees Luke Shaw as a long shot to make tournament, probably cut when the final panel is announced.
who decided England are favourites
Quote from: lurganblue on May 22, 2024, 12:15:59 PMIf Toney goes, he goes for pens only.
Ah I dunno. He's a proper centre forward. England are falling down with wingers / outside forwards but they need a back up / rotation for Kane, and Toney is the best option i'd think.
Watkins seems to the favoured one as the back up.
England have a very good chance. Their defence isn't as bad as its made out albeit they seem to have no natural left back. Their front 4 of Foden/Kane/Bellingham/Saka is as good as what is at the tournament.
Looking forward to it. I've always favoured the Euros over the World Cup for some reason.
If England want it badly enough then they might win it. Top teams don't always give 100% at the euros hence winners like Greece and Denmark. Italy also failed to qualify for the world cup after winning the last euros in which beaten finalists England played every game at home.
Quote from: square_ball on May 22, 2024, 01:32:57 PMEngland have a very good chance. Their defence isn't as bad as its made out albeit they seem to have no natural left back. Their front 4 of Foden/Kane/Bellingham/Saka is as good as what is at the tournament.
Looking forward to it. I've always favoured the Euros over the World Cup for some reason.
Me the same, but the increase in teams and reduced jeopardy in group stages has lessened the appeal. 16 teams 4 groups of 4 should been left like that top two into last 8.
Quote from: statto on May 22, 2024, 02:02:56 PMQuote from: square_ball on May 22, 2024, 01:32:57 PMEngland have a very good chance. Their defence isn't as bad as its made out albeit they seem to have no natural left back. Their front 4 of Foden/Kane/Bellingham/Saka is as good as what is at the tournament.
Looking forward to it. I've always favoured the Euros over the World Cup for some reason.
Me the same, but the increase in teams and reduced jeopardy in group stages has lessened the appeal. 16 teams 4 groups of 4 should been left like that top two into last 8.
Yeah that is true only 8 of the 24 going out after the group stages does dilute it alright. Next World Cup has 48 teams at it. That is overkill imo.
Quote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2024, 02:15:39 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 22, 2024, 12:47:03 PMwho decided England are favourites
Rio Ferdinand.
Hope he isn't involved in any coverage across bbc/itv think everyone needs the summer off.
Quote from: statto on May 22, 2024, 02:28:59 PMQuote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2024, 02:15:39 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 22, 2024, 12:47:03 PMwho decided England are favourites
Rio Ferdinand.
Hope he isn't involved in any coverage across bbc/itv think everyone needs the summer off.
No summer off for him or a few others.
BBC
Presenters - Gary Lineker, Gabby Logan, Mark Chapman, Alex Scott
Commentators - Guy Mowbray, Robyn Cowen, Vicki Sparks, Steve Wilson, Steve Bauer, Jonathan Pearce (commentators), Jermaine Jenas, Danny Murphy, Martin Keown, James McFadden (co-commentators)
Pundits - Alan Shearer, Micah Richards, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Frank Lampard, Joe Hart, Ellen White, Ashley Williams, Cesc Fabregas, David Moyes, Rachel Corsie, Thomas Frank, James McFadden
ITV
Presenters - Mark Pougatch, Laura Woods
Commentators - Sam Matterface, Clive Tyldesley, Seb Hutchinson, Pien Meulensteen, Joe Speight (commentators), Lee Dixon, Ally McCoist, Andros Townsend (co-commentators)
Pundits - Roy Keane, Graeme Souness, Ian Wright, Eni Aluko, Gary Neville, Karen Carney, Ange Postecoglou, Danny Rohl, Christina Unkel (refereeing analyst)
Definitely earplugs for Viki Sparks! My god, she could belt it out!
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 22, 2024, 02:38:43 PMQuote from: statto on May 22, 2024, 02:28:59 PMQuote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2024, 02:15:39 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 22, 2024, 12:47:03 PMwho decided England are favourites
Rio Ferdinand.
Hope he isn't involved in any coverage across bbc/itv think everyone needs the summer off.
No summer off for him or a few others.
BBC
Presenters - Gary Lineker, Gabby Logan, Mark Chapman, Alex Scott
Commentators - Guy Mowbray, Robyn Cowen, Vicki Sparks, Steve Wilson, Steve Bauer, Jonathan Pearce (commentators), Jermaine Jenas, Danny Murphy, Martin Keown, James McFadden (co-commentators)
Pundits - Alan Shearer, Micah Richards, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Frank Lampard, Joe Hart, Ellen White, Ashley Williams, Cesc Fabregas, David Moyes, Rachel Corsie, Thomas Frank, James McFadden
ITV
Presenters - Mark Pougatch, Laura Woods
Commentators - Sam Matterface, Clive Tyldesley, Seb Hutchinson, Pien Meulensteen, Joe Speight (commentators), Lee Dixon, Ally McCoist, Andros Townsend (co-commentators)
Pundits - Roy Keane, Graeme Souness, Ian Wright, Eni Aluko, Gary Neville, Karen Carney, Ange Postecoglou, Danny Rohl, Christina Unkel (refereeing analyst)
My god what a list. Mute it is
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 22, 2024, 02:38:43 PMQuote from: statto on May 22, 2024, 02:28:59 PMQuote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2024, 02:15:39 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 22, 2024, 12:47:03 PMwho decided England are favourites
Rio Ferdinand.
Hope he isn't involved in any coverage across bbc/itv think everyone needs the summer off.
No summer off for him or a few others.
BBC
Presenters - Gary Lineker, Gabby Logan, Mark Chapman, Alex Scott
Commentators - Guy Mowbray, Robyn Cowen, Vicki Sparks, Steve Wilson, Steve Bauer, Jonathan Pearce (commentators), Jermaine Jenas, Danny Murphy, Martin Keown, James McFadden (co-commentators)
Pundits - Alan Shearer, Micah Richards, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Frank Lampard, Joe Hart, Ellen White, Ashley Williams, Cesc Fabregas, David Moyes, Rachel Corsie, Thomas Frank, James McFadden
ITV
Presenters - Mark Pougatch, Laura Woods
Commentators - Sam Matterface, Clive Tyldesley, Seb Hutchinson, Pien Meulensteen, Joe Speight (commentators), Lee Dixon, Ally McCoist, Andros Townsend (co-commentators)
Pundits - Roy Keane, Graeme Souness, Ian Wright, Eni Aluko, Gary Neville, Karen Carney, Ange Postecoglou, Danny Rohl, Christina Unkel (refereeing analyst)
Micah Richards does my head in.
Him Lineker and Shearer are like an old boys club.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 22, 2024, 02:38:43 PMQuote from: statto on May 22, 2024, 02:28:59 PMQuote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2024, 02:15:39 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 22, 2024, 12:47:03 PMwho decided England are favourites
Rio Ferdinand.
Hope he isn't involved in any coverage across bbc/itv think everyone needs the summer off.
No summer off for him or a few others.
BBC
Presenters - Gary Lineker, Gabby Logan, Mark Chapman, Alex Scott
Commentators - Guy Mowbray, Robyn Cowen, Vicki Sparks, Steve Wilson, Steve Bauer, Jonathan Pearce (commentators), Jermaine Jenas, Danny Murphy, Martin Keown, James McFadden (co-commentators)
Pundits - Alan Shearer, Micah Richards, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Frank Lampard, Joe Hart, Ellen White, Ashley Williams, Cesc Fabregas, David Moyes, Rachel Corsie, Thomas Frank, James McFadden
ITV
Presenters - Mark Pougatch, Laura Woods
Commentators - Sam Matterface, Clive Tyldesley, Seb Hutchinson, Pien Meulensteen, Joe Speight (commentators), Lee Dixon, Ally McCoist, Andros Townsend (co-commentators)
Pundits - Roy Keane, Graeme Souness, Ian Wright, Eni Aluko, Gary Neville, Karen Carney, Ange Postecoglou, Danny Rohl, Christina Unkel (refereeing analyst)
Jenas FFS! No doubt he'll get the final as well... again. He must have the best agent on the planet!
ITV it is then.
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 22, 2024, 04:11:26 PMJenas FFS! No doubt he'll get the final as well... again. He must have the best agent on the planet!
ITV it is then.
Its a biodiversity thing, the streets will never forget (so I'm told)
Eamon Dunphy,John Giles and Bill O'Herlihy for me so, roll the tape...