Far right parties are expected to gain significantly in this year's Euro elections. The Far right uses emotion to wind up voters and never fixes anything. European Far right politicians such as Le Pen, Wilders and Orban specialise in conspiracy theories and gaslighting and target ignorant voters . They are all anti immigrant, anti climate action and pro Russia. They are much better at politics than right wing politicians. The North has had the far right for a very long time in the form of the DUP.
Who is the Far Right in the Republic?
its the biggest election in the history of the republic
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 10:34:24 AMits the biggest election in the history of the republic
Bigger than the first election?
yes it will determine if the right wing insurgency is real or not
European elections seem to lend themselves to the far right. I don't think it's the biggest election in Ireland's history, being elected to Europe doesn't mean a pile there's no power there really for an MEP.
How they get on in the next General Election will tell a tale as to where the country is at!
i am talking about local elections if far right people can get on county council meeting they can cause major disruption
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 10:34:24 AMits the biggest election in the history of the republic
Surely you don't believe the sh1t you type? Surely! :-X
Quote from: screenexile on March 29, 2024, 11:37:09 AMEuropean elections seem to lend themselves to the far right. I don't think it's the biggest election in Ireland's history, being elected to Europe doesn't mean a pile there's no power there really for an MEP.
How they get on in the next General Election will tell a tale as to where the country is at!
Couple of hundred votes be enough?
Would Aontu be considered far right?
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 11:46:08 AMi am talking about local elections if far right people can get on county council meeting they can cause major disruption
How exactly?
Vote no to everything? They'll be a minority of loudmouth thicks.
Burn the Council Chambers?
Blockade the Council offices?
Murder all the other Councillors?
Murder all the Council workers?
yes they will be a minorityt but with a a seat at the meetings they can be very disruptive
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 02:49:28 PMyes they will be a minorityt but with a a seat at the meetings they can be very disruptive
OK.. In 4 or 5 bullet points, how can a lone right wing minority councillor be disruptive?
by shouting and screaming being loud lol
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2024, 09:06:47 AMWho is the Far Right in the Republic?
According to the Irish Times there are 5 far right groups mar dhea in gestation. One of them is linked to Michael Fitzmaurice. The issues are farmer grievances like resistance to climate action and demands for turf cutting rights plus opposition to the EU.
chances of john waters getting elected.
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 08:11:41 PMchances of john waters getting elected.
It'd be no harm. The amount of TD's swimming with this sh*tty tide is depressing. Dail needs a shake up.
We've had no opposition for some time now. Not since the Banking crash. And our press and media are handcuffed by being subsidised by the Government.
Thought he was standing in the Euros? I'd like to be wrong, but I'd say his chances are small.
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 08:11:41 PMchances of john waters getting elected.
Oh yeh, a massive chance 😂. But him and his psycho buddy Gemma have a few problems of their own to resolve first
Quote from: seafoid on March 28, 2024, 09:32:00 PMFar right parties are expected to gain significantly in this year's Euro elections. The Far right uses emotion to wind up voters and never fixes anything. European Far right politicians such as Le Pen, Wilders and Orban specialise in conspiracy theories and gaslighting and target ignorant voters . They are all anti immigrant, anti climate action and pro Russia. They are much better at politics than right wing politicians. The North has had the far right for a very long time in the form of the DUP.
Came across this earlier:
https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/6852/seats-held-by-far-right-parties-in-europe/
did gemma and john fall out
Quote from: clarshack on March 29, 2024, 10:17:47 PMQuote from: seafoid on March 28, 2024, 09:32:00 PMFar right parties are expected to gain significantly in this year's Euro elections. The Far right uses emotion to wind up voters and never fixes anything. European Far right politicians such as Le Pen, Wilders and Orban specialise in conspiracy theories and gaslighting and target ignorant voters . They are all anti immigrant, anti climate action and pro Russia. They are much better at politics than right wing politicians. The North has had the far right for a very long time in the form of the DUP.
Came across this earlier:
https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/6852/seats-held-by-far-right-parties-in-europe/
that is a great link
nial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
Quote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
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Quote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
He's hardly done that well, when his supporters can't even spell his name. A complete grifter.
A disgusting sc**bag if ever there was one.
Quote from: HiMucker on March 31, 2024, 10:45:40 AMQuote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
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Quote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
He's hardly done that well, when his supporters can't even spell his name. A complete grifter.
where did i say i support niall mcconnel please show me where i said support mcconnel or anyone think you got the wrong end of the stick and i dont care about his name
Quote from: HiMucker on March 31, 2024, 10:45:40 AMQuote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
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Quote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
He's hardly done that well, when his supporters can't even spell his name. A complete grifter.
That video where he was called a bad egg is fantastic.
fergus power arrested yesterday after going into a cafe and screaming about migrants there is meme going around of some aul fella laughing at fergus power and one of his accomplices even some right wing outlets power went to far
https://twitter.com/IrishRebel1965/status/1775221455791218978
;D ;D
About time the Law was used against those scum.
No doubt free legal aid.
That was funny. As said above, let's see more of guards out dragging these scumbags off to a prison cell.
And stop their dole as they obviously aren't available for work.
dont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.
https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1782867145300365459
Quote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PMdont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.
What would your definition of far right be?
Quote from: whitey on April 24, 2024, 04:46:59 PMQuote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PMdont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.
What would your definition of far right be?
mine is
Anti climate action
Pro plutocracy.
anti women
Violent
Report to Putin.
Very noisy
Never solve problems.
Quote from: seafoid on April 24, 2024, 05:25:45 PMQuote from: whitey on April 24, 2024, 04:46:59 PMQuote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PMdont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.
What would your definition of far right be?
mine is
Anti climate action
Pro plutocracy.
anti women
Violent
Report to Putin.
Very noisy
Never solve problems.
Is anti climate action not an outlier among that?
Is it okay to disbelieve all/any other government messaging and policies... just not climate change?
——
I'm not anti climate action by the way. I just don't understand how it can be right wing to be that way.
Quote from: thewobbler on April 24, 2024, 05:30:48 PMQuote from: seafoid on April 24, 2024, 05:25:45 PMQuote from: whitey on April 24, 2024, 04:46:59 PMQuote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PMdont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.
What would your definition of far right be?
mine is
Anti climate action
Pro plutocracy.
anti women
Violent
Report to Putin.
Very noisy
Never solve problems.
Is anti climate action not an outlier among that?
Is it okay to disbelieve all/any other government messaging and policies... just not climate change?
——
I'm not anti climate action by the way. I just don't understand how it can be right wing to be that way.
They all beguile Farmer's into believing that that climate action is ruining
Quote from: thewobbler on April 24, 2024, 05:30:48 PMQuote from: seafoid on April 24, 2024, 05:25:45 PMQuote from: whitey on April 24, 2024, 04:46:59 PMQuote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PMdont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.
What would your definition of far right be?
mine is
Anti climate action
Pro plutocracy.
anti women
Violent
Report to Putin.
Very noisy
Never solve problems.
Is anti climate action not an outlier among that?
Is it okay to disbelieve all/any other government messaging and policies... just not climate change?
——
I'm not anti climate action by the way. I just don't understand how it can be right wing to be that way.
They all have the same menu of policies. They are all led by demagogues who are liars.
Anti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.
Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
Wave tricolour, spout about being Irish Patriots, haven't a word of Gaeilge.
Don't work. Don't wash too often by the look of them.
All vehemently anti abortion presumably to get funds from US.
Quote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.
Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
only care about women being killed if the killer is a non irish national
Quote from: Rossfan on April 25, 2024, 09:09:58 AMWave tricolour, spout about being Irish Patriots, haven't a word of Gaeilge.
Don't work. Don't wash too often by the look of them.
All vehemently anti abortion presumably to get funds from US.
Ivory Coast flag you mean.
A key thing is to be a hypocrite too.
Call others snowflakes but then any perceived slight has them spiralling.
Not in Ireland but in the USA they will go nuts about the 1st Amendment but then when students protest over Gaza they call in the riot squad. Make up your mind lads...
A small few make a LOT of noise but they won't get their deposits back when it comes to the elections. It's a tiny minority on tour.
See apparently this morning, that 80% of blow ins come in from Northern Ireland.
If Larne is the first thing you see.....
Quote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.
Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
The far right leader tells lies to people he knows are stupid.
Quote from: seafoid on April 25, 2024, 11:45:39 AMQuote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.
Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
The far right leader tells lies to people he knows are stupid.
I thought that tactic is standard across the world. People buy into that every time come elections
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp
So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2024, 11:56:06 AMQuote from: seafoid on April 25, 2024, 11:45:39 AMQuote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.
Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
The far right leader tells lies to people he knows are stupid.
I thought that tactic is standard across the world. People buy into that every time come elections
It would be easy to suggest that this was the core tactic of DUP and Sinn Fein to usurp SDLP and UUP, and has been a staple tactic since.
Surely both those parties cannot be far right?
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2024, 05:34:21 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2024, 11:56:06 AMQuote from: seafoid on April 25, 2024, 11:45:39 AMQuote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.
Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
The far right leader tells lies to people he knows are stupid.
I thought that tactic is standard across the world. People buy into that every time come elections
It would be easy to suggest that this was the core tactic of DUP and Sinn Fein to usurp SDLP and UUP, and has been a staple tactic since.
Surely both those parties cannot be far right?
Or that FG tell you lies about the houses they will build but don't. But of course that's not the same thing and you know it.
Quote from: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp
So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?
All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance. The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare. The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.
So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first
The nazifascists being taken on at last.
12 months too late.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/three-arrested-and-fire-burns-as-garda-public-order-unit-deployed-to-site-slated-to-house-asylum-seekers-in-wicklow/a1618585359.html
Quote from: David McKeown on April 25, 2024, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp
So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?
All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance. The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare. The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.
So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first
is this true?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 25, 2024, 11:11:48 AMSee apparently this morning, that 80% of blow ins come in from Northern Ireland.
Id like to see where she got that figure from
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 26, 2024, 07:17:27 AMQuote from: David McKeown on April 25, 2024, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp
So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?
All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance. The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare. The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.
So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first
is this true?
Quote from: David McKeown on April 25, 2024, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp
So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?
All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance. The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare. The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.
So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first
;D ;D
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0426/1445812-josip-strok/
A decent man earning a living.
Quote from: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 04:01:01 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0426/1445812-josip-strok/
A decent man earning a living.
Read an interview with him the other day, absolutely awful, poor fellas.
We should treat immigrants like we'd want our own diaspora to be treated. During the Great Hunger, >1 million Irish were refugees (>1 million died).
Above all other nations, we have reason to be generous + hospitable.
Quote from: befair on April 26, 2024, 04:38:58 PMWe should treat immigrants like we'd want our own diaspora to be treated. During the Great Hunger, >1 million Irish were refugees (>1 million died).
Above all other nations, we have reason to be generous + hospitable.
We should, but we cannot take one billion people.
Nobody's asking us to
Quote from: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 05:37:50 PMNobody's asking us to
OK, so how many are we expected to take?
Quote from: armaghniac on April 26, 2024, 06:58:06 PMQuote from: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 05:37:50 PMNobody's asking us to
OK, so how many are we expected to take?
I thought you were taking none and instead shipping to 🇷🇼 ?
Quote from: thebigfella on April 26, 2024, 07:04:35 PMQuote from: armaghniac on April 26, 2024, 06:58:06 PMQuote from: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 05:37:50 PMNobody's asking us to
OK, so how many are we expected to take?
I thought you were taking none and instead shipping to 🇷🇼 ?
What a red herring. Where does it end? Come on, tell us.
Quote from: burdizzo on April 26, 2024, 07:20:33 PMQuote from: thebigfella on April 26, 2024, 07:04:35 PMQuote from: armaghniac on April 26, 2024, 06:58:06 PMQuote from: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 05:37:50 PMNobody's asking us to
OK, so how many are we expected to take?
I thought you were taking none and instead shipping to 🇷🇼 ?
What a red herring. Where does it end? Come on, tell us.
Where does it start? Are you saying we should be taking none? I'm assuming you're not that big a boll!x and that you are happy to take some. So what's the limit? How many is too many for you?
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 26, 2024, 07:17:27 AMQuote from: David McKeown on April 25, 2024, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp
So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?
All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance. The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare. The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.
So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first
is this true?
Yes genuine cases involving a couple of my friends about 15 months ago
12 months too late but better than never I suppose
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41383141.html
Quote from: Rossfan on April 27, 2024, 08:53:21 AM12 months too late but better than never I suppose
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41383141.html
There's no doubt that an element of proper Far Right will try and infiltrate protests but just seen a clip of the residents of Newtown Mount Kennedy marching and it's a seriously large group of people. Are all those people 'Nazifascist'? Are they the ones that have blocked access to the local GAA pitch?
It also didn't look good the other night when Drew Harris's Riot Squad were intimidating people on their own property, it was like the troubles had moved to Wicklow.
Sorry state of affairs all around and it's the Irish Government that are completely to blame for creating this mess.
Quote from: clarshack on April 27, 2024, 04:59:00 PMQuote from: Rossfan on April 27, 2024, 08:53:21 AM12 months too late but better than never I suppose
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41383141.html
There's no doubt that an element of proper Far Right will try and infiltrate protests but just seen a clip of the residents of Newtown Mount Kennedy marching and it's a seriously large group of people. Are all those people 'Nazifascist'? Are they the ones that have blocked access to the local GAA pitch?
It also didn't look good the other night when Drew Harris's Riot Squad were intimidating people on their own property, it was like the troubles had moved to Wicklow.
Sorry state of affairs all around and it's the Irish Government that are completely to blame for creating this mess.
Do these people seriously think they are being 'replaced'?
Be no harm if they were replaced by decent humans.
Quote from: clarshack on April 27, 2024, 04:59:00 PMQuote from: Rossfan on April 27, 2024, 08:53:21 AM12 months too late but better than never I suppose
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41383141.html
There's no doubt that an element of proper Far Right will try and infiltrate protests but just seen a clip of the residents of Newtown Mount Kennedy marching and it's a seriously large group of people. Are all those people 'Nazifascist'? Are they the ones that have blocked access to the local GAA pitch?
It also didn't look good the other night when Drew Harris's Riot Squad were intimidating people on their own property, it was like the troubles had moved to Wicklow.
Sorry state of affairs all around and it's the Irish Government that are completely to blame for creating this mess.
Some sc**bag attacks a squad car with an axe and its all the Government's fault????
There was over 20000 foreigners armed to the teeth in the north for years don't remember any of these far right groups about then.
Quote from: reddgnhand on April 27, 2024, 09:02:03 PMThere was over 20000 foreigners armed to the teeth in the north for years don't remember any of these far right groups about then.
Most people assumed SF/IRA were nationalist. Turns out not to have been so.
Quote from: reddgnhand on April 27, 2024, 09:02:03 PMThere was over 20000 foreigners armed to the teeth in the north for years don't remember any of these far right groups about then.
1 As bullies and thugs they'd be afraid of their sh1te of them
2 They'd see them as their allies
Quote from: burdizzo on April 28, 2024, 06:48:03 AMQuote from: reddgnhand on April 27, 2024, 09:02:03 PMThere was over 20000 foreigners armed to the teeth in the north for years don't remember any of these far right groups about then.
Most people assumed SF/IRA were nationalist. Turns out not to have been so.
did this make sense in your head?
It would to those fktards who think Nationalism is the Continental Nazifascist version which says no foreigners should be allowed into a Country.
Whereas as antifa "fktards" think Ireland should be open and provide for all comers? Yay!
A lot of this is a cover for blatant racism going about wrapped in tricolours them pure fascists being backed by Tommy Robinson and his ilk.
I see Athletics Ireland had to turn off a post yesterday when Rhasadat Adeleke broke a national record as these neanderthals turned their hatred on her because she is black.
Born in Dublin ffs! (not that anyone should be abused wherever they came from).
She is a wonderful ambassador for Ireland while her abusers could hardly spell their own names. Total scumbags...
Absolute filth
https://x.com/tvcritics/status/1784967221548122389?s=46
The state of this lot!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2024, 11:56:06 AMQuote from: seafoid on April 25, 2024, 11:45:39 AMQuote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.
Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
The far right leader tells lies to people he knows are stupid.
I thought that tactic is standard across the world. People buy into that every time come elections
Someone once said that if voting changed anything it would be outlawed.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cExSN3bvSk0&si=YoFUFFsXpGRuVsaZ
I wonder what the Far Right opinion is in relation to this immigrant medic?
In my local town after a couple of yrs with refugees and no issues a local sc**bag has gone around plastering the place with posters and camping outside a builders house, breaking windows, smashing cars. Guards finally lifted him, allowed him to video himself in their car and giggled along with his jokes. The biggest issue at moment is inaction of authorities allowing a complete inbred sc**bag to become some sort of robin hood in the eyes of the thickos that follow him.
The scum are setting the agenda and making all the running.
Social media is proving to be one of the worst inventions of all time. It does much more harm than good.
Quote from: snoopdog on May 01, 2024, 09:06:36 AMSocial media is proving to be one of the worst inventions of all time. It does much more harm than good.
110%. Rats running onto this paticular ship
Tends to be twitter I think. But for twitter there'd be no Jamie Bryson and I don't think there'd be the rise there is in the south either.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 01, 2024, 10:04:14 AMTends to be twitter I think. But for twitter there'd be no Jamie Bryson and I don't think there'd be the rise there is in the south either.
At least Bryson isn't hiding behind a fake name like 99.9% of the hate filled bastids on there are
Just listened to part 3 of the Christy Moore interview on Free State.. He was talking about these online 'patriots' who are seemingly afraid of nothing, but using their own names
Quote from: JoG2 on May 01, 2024, 10:15:49 AMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 01, 2024, 10:04:14 AMTends to be twitter I think. But for twitter there'd be no Jamie Bryson and I don't think there'd be the rise there is in the south either.
At least Bryson isn't hiding behind a fake name like 99.9% of the hate filled bastids on there are
When will people catch about twitter? Like I know I've umpteen posts on here, but that's my limit, of social media, when someone talks to me about what they seen on twitter or some said this on TikTok I'm immediately rolling my eyes and wanting to bash their heads in
Will Twitter and the like get worst or will it die a death?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2024, 10:22:48 AMQuote from: JoG2 on May 01, 2024, 10:15:49 AMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 01, 2024, 10:04:14 AMTends to be twitter I think. But for twitter there'd be no Jamie Bryson and I don't think there'd be the rise there is in the south either.
At least Bryson isn't hiding behind a fake name like 99.9% of the hate filled bastids on there are
When will people catch about twitter? Like I know I've umpteen posts on here, but that's my limit, of social media, when someone talks to me about what they seen on twitter or some said this on TikTok I'm immediately rolling my eyes and wanting to bash their heads in
Will Twitter and the like get worst or will it die a death?
It won't die. I do like Twitter but it can be a cesspit. I block loads of people who get in the way of important things like GAA and NBA news etc
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 01, 2024, 12:43:11 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2024, 10:22:48 AMQuote from: JoG2 on May 01, 2024, 10:15:49 AMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 01, 2024, 10:04:14 AMTends to be twitter I think. But for twitter there'd be no Jamie Bryson and I don't think there'd be the rise there is in the south either.
At least Bryson isn't hiding behind a fake name like 99.9% of the hate filled bastids on there are
When will people catch about twitter? Like I know I've umpteen posts on here, but that's my limit, of social media, when someone talks to me about what they seen on twitter or some said this on TikTok I'm immediately rolling my eyes and wanting to bash their heads in
Will Twitter and the like get worst or will it die a death?
It won't die. I do like Twitter but it can be a cesspit. I block loads of people who get in the way of important things like GAA and NBA news etc
One of the biggest issues with Twitter is if you interact with one of these scumbags, call them out or whatever, your feed will become full of the same shite. You are best to block and ignore anything Far Right and keep your stream of posts clean.
Good point made by Christy, the lack of a name shows these guys for what they are and indeed the homo-erotic image of Colin McGregor leading a band of "patriots" behind him into some sort of war is the most ridiculous thing I ever saw.
This says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html
Quote from: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 01:18:13 PMThis says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html
You realize Twitter isn't real life?
A couple of right wing US political commentators (with millions of followers) highlight the fact Ireland doesn't enforce its own immigration laws.
This then gets retweeted/shared/liked by a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the people who saw it.
And you use this "datapoint" to deligitimize peoples valid concerns (which BTW were shared by a sitting FF TD and European candidate yesterday)
And his comments are up in the FF website, so obviously the party (who are in Government) agree with his views to some extent
https://www.fiannafail.ie/news/cowen-demands-enforcement-of-immigration-laws?hs_amp=true
Are Fianna Fail far right?
Twitter isn't real life but the dumbfucks that believe everything in it are real
They have said AI will be uncontrollable (even more so) during these elections coming up in the UK and the US
Quote from: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 01:18:13 PMThis says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html
And the cnut outside Harris' home with a placard "Eire(sic) won't allow rule by EU puppets"
Tell me you're English/Nordie Loyalist without telling me....
Quote from: whitey on May 03, 2024, 01:38:20 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 01:18:13 PMThis says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html
You realize Twitter isn't real life?
A couple of right wing US political commentators (with millions of followers) highlight the fact Ireland doesn't enforce its own immigration laws.
This then gets retweeted/shared/liked by a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the people who saw it.
And you use this "datapoint" to deligitimize peoples valid concerns (which BTW were shared by a sitting FF TD and European candidate yesterday)
And his comments are up in the FF website, so obviously the party (who are in Government) agree with his views to some extent
https://www.fiannafail.ie/news/cowen-demands-enforcement-of-immigration-laws?hs_amp=true
Are Fianna Fail far right?
Did it hurt you that one, you show up as a yank in the assessment above
Quote from: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 04:27:43 PMQuote from: whitey on May 03, 2024, 01:38:20 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 01:18:13 PMThis says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html
You realize Twitter isn't real life?
A couple of right wing US political commentators (with millions of followers) highlight the fact Ireland doesn't enforce its own immigration laws.
This then gets retweeted/shared/liked by a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the people who saw it.
And you use this "datapoint" to deligitimize peoples valid concerns (which BTW were shared by a sitting FF TD and European candidate yesterday)
And his comments are up in the FF website, so obviously the party (who are in Government) agree with his views to some extent
https://www.fiannafail.ie/news/cowen-demands-enforcement-of-immigration-laws?hs_amp=true
Are Fianna Fail far right?
Did it hurt you that one, you show up as a yank in the assessment above
Not in the least
Im an Irish Citizen so I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are
Not sure which three is right for this but it seems pretty appropriate, does Linfield normally have such a colourful array of flags for their games are is it just because they were playing a "Catholic team"?
Quote from: Brendan on May 05, 2024, 07:24:25 AMNot sure which three is right for this but it seems pretty appropriate, does Linfield normally have such a colourful array of flags for their games are is it just because they were playing a "Catholic team"?
They were sent packing regardless.
3rd goal, to finish it off, was great.
Quote from: marty34 on May 05, 2024, 07:52:14 AMQuote from: Brendan on May 05, 2024, 07:24:25 AMNot sure which three is right for this but it seems pretty appropriate, does Linfield normally have such a colourful array of flags for their games are is it just because they were playing a "Catholic team"?
They were sent packing regardless.
3rd goal, to finish it off, was great.
Fans should have been sent packing, can you really claim to be commemorating the 1913 UVF at a football match?
Quote from: Brendan on May 05, 2024, 08:29:35 AMQuote from: marty34 on May 05, 2024, 07:52:14 AMQuote from: Brendan on May 05, 2024, 07:24:25 AMNot sure which three is right for this but it seems pretty appropriate, does Linfield normally have such a colourful array of flags for their games are is it just because they were playing a "Catholic team"?
They were sent packing regardless.
3rd goal, to finish it off, was great.
Fans should have been sent packing, can you really claim to be commemorating the 1913 UVF at a football match?
A few years ago they had a jersey with the UVF colours. Umbro had to stop promoting it.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5704589/umbro-apologise-linfield-uvf-kit/amp/
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 06, 2024, 09:04:39 PMThoughts on the very large protest versus the very small counter protest in Dublin today? The Shinners didn't seem to be popular with the majority of protesters.
The Irish are the biggest hypocrites on the planet with regard to immigration. The Irish government were lobbying the Biden administration recently regarding undocumented Irish in the US. Currently estimated at about 50K in number. (probably all unvetted military age males as well, shock horror)
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 06, 2024, 09:04:39 PMThoughts on the very large protest versus the very small counter protest in Dublin today? The Shinners didn't seem to be popular with the majority of protesters.
On RTÉ news there the coverage seemed to be filmed on a mobile phone while an anti abortion protest also mentioned was filmed with a proper TV camera.
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 06, 2024, 09:16:35 PMThe Irish are the biggest hypocrites on the planet with regard to immigration. The Irish government were lobbying the Biden administration recently regarding undocumented Irish in the US. Currently estimated at about 50K in number. (probably all unvetted military age males as well, shock horror)
Absolute hypocrites, they should simply state that if the US throws them out that they'll be allowed come home.
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 06, 2024, 09:04:39 PMThoughts on the very large protest versus the very small counter protest in Dublin today? The Shinners didn't seem to be popular with the majority of protesters.
If you are "popular" with that bunch of goons you've got a problem
Exactly Itchy.
"Very large" as in 600?
Quote from: Itchy on May 06, 2024, 09:38:27 PMQuote from: Rebel84 on May 06, 2024, 09:04:39 PMThoughts on the very large protest versus the very small counter protest in Dublin today? The Shinners didn't seem to be popular with the majority of protesters.
If you are "popular" with that bunch of goons you've got a problem
Ha ha! These protesters are the Sinn Fein-voting demographic! And yes, Sinn Fein does have a problem!
Yeah, but noticeable how puny the antifa weasels' protest was in comparison to the right-thinking one!! The Newstalk report made it sound as if both were of equal size! Lying media, eh?!
Quote from: Rossfan on May 06, 2024, 09:46:07 PMExactly Itchy.
"Very large" as in 600?
Can't count, eh? Or just wilfully dishonest? I suppose the anti-fa scumbags had 6,000?!
Antifa are as big a shower of scumbags as the people they're protesting
Quote from: whitey on May 06, 2024, 10:17:45 PMAntifa are as big a shower of scumbags as the people they're protesting
if you say so
21% of people surveyed during the referendums believed that vaccines are dangerous, per the Irish Times.
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 07, 2024, 07:22:44 AMQuote from: whitey on May 06, 2024, 10:17:45 PMAntifa are as big a shower of scumbags as the people they're protesting
if you say so
Anybody who isn't anti Fascist isn't a decent human being.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2024, 10:19:04 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 07, 2024, 07:22:44 AMQuote from: whitey on May 06, 2024, 10:17:45 PMAntifa are as big a shower of scumbags as the people they're protesting
if you say so
Anybody who isn't anti Fascist isn't a decent human being.
Add in liberal and socialist... These are bad values as well according to many
More reasons to he anti Fascist
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41389450.html
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2024, 11:00:54 AMMore reasons to he anti Fascist
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41389450.html
The anti-fa weirdos could hardly muster 200 for their big 'counter-protest', whereas the right-thinking ones had several thousand, despite what you and the 'legacy media' would like people to believe. And you just keep posting links from the same media? Come on, pal - it's old hat, and people are seeing through it.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2024, 11:00:54 AMMore reasons to he anti Fascist
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41389450.html
Fascists never fix problems.
It's quite sad watching this small demented section of Irish society dragging the tricolour through the dirt with their march of hate. Truly shameful.
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 07, 2024, 12:00:07 PMIt's quite sad watching this small demented section of Irish society dragging the tricolour through the dirt with their march of hate. Truly shameful.
March of hate?!! Aaah. Boo hoo. Sadly for you, the majority of people in this country don't want open borders.
Quote from: burdizzo on May 07, 2024, 12:57:09 PMQuote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 07, 2024, 12:00:07 PMIt's quite sad watching this small demented section of Irish society dragging the tricolour through the dirt with their march of hate. Truly shameful.
March of hate?!! Aaah. Boo hoo. Sadly for you, the majority of people in this country don't want open borders.
there are no open borders in Ireland
Quote from: burdizzo on May 07, 2024, 12:57:09 PMQuote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 07, 2024, 12:00:07 PMIt's quite sad watching this small demented section of Irish society dragging the tricolour through the dirt with their march of hate. Truly shameful.
March of hate?!! Aaah. Boo hoo. Sadly for you, the majority of people in this country don't want open borders.
More nonsense.I mentioned on here the other day, a comment from Christy Moore about the Irish right wing, afraid of nothing except using their own names.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 07, 2024, 01:33:23 PMQuote from: burdizzo on May 07, 2024, 12:57:09 PMQuote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 07, 2024, 12:00:07 PMIt's quite sad watching this small demented section of Irish society dragging the tricolour through the dirt with their march of hate. Truly shameful.
March of hate?!! Aaah. Boo hoo. Sadly for you, the majority of people in this country don't want open borders.
More nonsense.I mentioned on here the other day, a comment from Christy Moore about the Irish right wing, afraid of nothing except using their own names.
And work, don't forget about work.
Work is an offensive 4 letter word to that sh1te!
They'd rather be abusing people and consorting with Tommy ten names and UDA sectarian murderers.
The only open border is the one on the map between the 6 and 26 and nobody but Jim Allister and Bryson types want that closed.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2024, 02:08:48 PMWork is an offensive 4 letter word to that sh1te!
They'd rather be abusing people and consorting with Tommy ten names and UDA sectarian murderers.
The only open border is the one on the map between the 6 and 26 and nobody but Jim Allister and Bryson types want that closed.
No, most people in the south want that closed to illegal immigrants! According to your beloved legacy media this morning, that is. Now, away back to the anti-fa boards.
Quote from: burdizzo on May 07, 2024, 02:20:38 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2024, 02:08:48 PMWork is an offensive 4 letter word to that sh1te!
They'd rather be abusing people and consorting with Tommy ten names and UDA sectarian murderers.
The only open border is the one on the map between the 6 and 26 and nobody but Jim Allister and Bryson types want that closed.
No, most people in the south want that closed to illegal immigrants! According to your beloved legacy media this morning, that is. Now, away back to the anti-fa boards.
Would ye away on with this 'legacy media' nonsense. Everyone quotes them when they print a story that confirms their particular point of view.
How are ye enjoying the open borders boys and girls
Did you read about the court case where the Somali sexually assaulted the girl in a pub toilet in Dubli
He is confirmed sex offender in the UK, who was denied asylum in 3 other EU countries-then got a fake Swedish passport which he destroyed upon his entry to Ireland and has been here ever since
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-who-followed-woman-to-toilets-and-tried-to-rape-her-jailed-for-predatory-actions/a1560765323.html
There is something seriously wrong with you.
What kind of person uses the word enjoy in relation to a story like that?
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 07, 2024, 03:45:04 PMThere is something seriously wrong with you.
What kind of person uses the word enjoy in relation to a story like that?
Well, a lot of people here are all for the cultural enrichment we get from open borders. Vile, I know, but there you have it...
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41356303.html#:~:text=Terrence%20Crosbie%20has%20been%20ordered,and%20to%20surrender%20his%20passport.&text=An%20Irish%20firefighter%20has%20been,%24100%2C000%20(€92%2C000)%20bail.
I know it's from the 'legacy media' but still.
Those Irish,,,keep them out!
Quote from: burdizzo on May 07, 2024, 04:26:11 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 07, 2024, 03:45:04 PMThere is something seriously wrong with you.
What kind of person uses the word enjoy in relation to a story like that?
Well, a lot of people here are all for the cultural enrichment we get from open borders. Vile, I know, but there you have it...
Again, wee Billy big balls behind a hidden name... Grim carryon.
It's what's driven twitter etc into the sewers.
It honestly is grim reading jog2. There's a rabbit hole some people go down and entrench themselves in and then use examples like sexual assault etc as some kind of validation and victory in what their views are. Two shining examples of it here. Grim is the word for it.
It wouldn't be the small section you think it is. I hear people talking about it now who never would mentioned immigration, What ever party put forward a very strong immigration policy going forward I think we be surprised at the backing it get.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 07, 2024, 04:48:18 PMQuote from: burdizzo on May 07, 2024, 04:26:11 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 07, 2024, 03:45:04 PMThere is something seriously wrong with you.
What kind of person uses the word enjoy in relation to a story like that?
Well, a lot of people here are all for the cultural enrichment we get from open borders. Vile, I know, but there you have it...
Again, wee Billy big balls behind a hidden name... Grim carryon.
It's what's driven twitter etc into the sewers.
Right. And your name's JoG2?! Does anyone here use their real name?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 07, 2024, 05:02:41 PMIt wouldn't be the small section you think it is. I hear people talking about it now who never would mentioned immigration, What ever party put forward a very strong immigration policy going forward I think we be surprised at the backing it get.
The key issue isn't immigration. It's housing.
Quote from: seafoid on May 07, 2024, 06:19:01 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on May 07, 2024, 05:02:41 PMIt wouldn't be the small section you think it is. I hear people talking about it now who never would mentioned immigration, What ever party put forward a very strong immigration policy going forward I think we be surprised at the backing it get.
The key issue isn't immigration. It's housing.
So they keep trying to tell us. But, you know, it's not unrelated, now - is it?
Quote from: burdizzo on May 07, 2024, 06:14:44 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 07, 2024, 04:48:18 PMQuote from: burdizzo on May 07, 2024, 04:26:11 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 07, 2024, 03:45:04 PMThere is something seriously wrong with you.
What kind of person uses the word enjoy in relation to a story like that?
Well, a lot of people here are all for the cultural enrichment we get from open borders. Vile, I know, but there you have it...
Again, wee Billy big balls behind a hidden name... Grim carryon.
It's what's driven twitter etc into the sewers.
Right. And your name's JoG2?! Does anyone here use their real name?
I'd say there's 30 odd here know who I am with sharing info down the years. Thing is, I'm not spouting constant hate like you are. You would not post what you post using your real name, same goes for 99% of the 'patriots' on social media
"Patriots" gan focal Gaeilge acu.
There's ones here know who I am, too. Now, where's this hate I spout? Except at anti-fa, but that's OK because... - well, it's anti-fa!
By the way, quite a lot of hateful ones on "your side", too - no?
Quote from: burdizzo on May 07, 2024, 06:14:44 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 07, 2024, 04:48:18 PMQuote from: burdizzo on May 07, 2024, 04:26:11 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 07, 2024, 03:45:04 PMThere is something seriously wrong with you.
What kind of person uses the word enjoy in relation to a story like that?
Well, a lot of people here are all for the cultural enrichment we get from open borders. Vile, I know, but there you have it...
Again, wee Billy big balls behind a hidden name... Grim carryon.
It's what's driven twitter etc into the sewers.
Right. And your name's JoG2?! Does anyone here use their real name?
No one would be that stupid :o
Exactly Jimmy ;D
Another piece of sh1te
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/far-right-activist-charged-with-burglary-of-foot-locker-during-dublin-riots/a1848198465.html
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2024, 09:01:45 PMAnother piece of sh1te
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/far-right-activist-charged-with-burglary-of-foot-locker-during-dublin-riots/a1848198465.html
I think this shows what the far right are like.
1. There's no open borders
2. Why do some people only care about crimes against Irish women when it's foreign nationals who commit them?
Apologies for the source....but Europe is heading back to Nazism....
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/german-politician-attacked-amid-concerns-over-violence-ahead-of-eu-elections/a1437935902.html
Got a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Make sure to leave the nazifascist candidates blank when you vote.
The full list
https://www.thejournal.ie/candidates-for-european-elections-ireland-6364837-Apr2024/
Quote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
I'll be leaving the following blank
Waters John
Barrett,
Reynolds
Maguire
Kelly
Cahill
Mullooly
Casey
Quote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?
The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng
Quote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
All the main parties send leaflets through the post.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 08, 2024, 11:05:31 AMMake sure to leave the nazifascist candidates blank when you vote.
The full list
https://www.thejournal.ie/candidates-for-european-elections-ireland-6364837-Apr2024/
In STV you're actually better giving them a really really low preference. If you leave it blank they don't know that you left it blank.
If you give them a 10 or whatever, whenever the transfers get to that stage (if they do), then they will see that people out there gave them a 10th preference and maybe for a moment go... "hmmm".
They'll get the vote then.
Blank means no transfer.
Hopefully they'll be all eliminated on Count 1 making it irrelevant.
They won't go hmmmmm ... , I'd say more likely to say the Government hired a load of foreigners to tear up all their votes
Quote from: Rossfan on May 08, 2024, 03:17:09 PMThey'll get the vote then.
Blank means no transfer.
Hopefully they'll be all eliminated on Count 1 making it irrelevant.
They won't go hmmmmm ... , I'd say more likely to say the Government hired a load of foreigners to tear up all their votes
Lol
Quote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 12:28:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?
The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng
McEntee is out of her depth, I wont defend her. However, that doesn't mean a bunch of racist knuckle draggers are right in anything they say
Quote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 04:44:24 PMQuote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 12:28:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?
The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng
McEntee is out of her depth, I wont defend her. However, that doesn't mean a bunch of racist knuckle draggers are right in anything they say
They (the knuckle drafters) are 100% right when they say that current laws are not being enforced which is leading to a defacto open borders policy
They are also correct in saying that many people are not being adequately "vetted"
https://gript.ie/revealed-asylum-seekers-fingerprints-not-checked-against-criminal-databases/
https://www.newstalk.com/news/these-people-are-fingerprinted-biggest-myths-about-asylum-seekers-1631836
Read the two articles and see if you can figure out who's telling the truth
Quote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 05:00:31 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 04:44:24 PMQuote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 12:28:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?
The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng
McEntee is out of her depth, I wont defend her. However, that doesn't mean a bunch of racist knuckle draggers are right in anything they say
They (the knuckle drafters) are 100% right when they say that current laws are not being enforced which is leading to a defacto open borders policy
They are also correct in saying that many people are not being adequately "vetted"
https://gript.ie/revealed-asylum-seekers-fingerprints-not-checked-against-criminal-databases/
https://www.newstalk.com/news/these-people-are-fingerprinted-biggest-myths-about-asylum-seekers-1631836
Read the two articles and see if you can figure out who's telling the truth
Gript?? Sure you might as well throw up a link to mein kampf when your at it. You've no idea about this country, not a clue.
Quote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 05:57:47 PMQuote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 05:00:31 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 04:44:24 PMQuote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 12:28:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?
The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng
McEntee is out of her depth, I wont defend her. However, that doesn't mean a bunch of racist knuckle draggers are right in anything they say
They (the knuckle drafters) are 100% right when they say that current laws are not being enforced which is leading to a defacto open borders policy
They are also correct in saying that many people are not being adequately "vetted"
https://gript.ie/revealed-asylum-seekers-fingerprints-not-checked-against-criminal-databases/
https://www.newstalk.com/news/these-people-are-fingerprinted-biggest-myths-about-asylum-seekers-1631836
Read the two articles and see if you can figure out who's telling the truth
Gript?? Sure you might as well throw up a link to mein kampf when your at it. You've no idea about this country, not a clue.
If McEnter and Varadkar enforced the laws already on the books this would be a non issue
They only have themselves to blame
What I've learned over the years is that it doesn't matter if something is true or not. What matters is whether people believe something to be true
With the collapse in people's confidence in traditional media outlets sources like Gript play a very important role in keeping them honest
Do the knuckle daggers work in the Immigration or ICP offices?
Work....😅🤣😂
Quote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 06:15:29 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 05:57:47 PMQuote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 05:00:31 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 04:44:24 PMQuote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 12:28:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?
The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng
McEntee is out of her depth, I wont defend her. However, that doesn't mean a bunch of racist knuckle draggers are right in anything they say
They (the knuckle drafters) are 100% right when they say that current laws are not being enforced which is leading to a defacto open borders policy
They are also correct in saying that many people are not being adequately "vetted"
https://gript.ie/revealed-asylum-seekers-fingerprints-not-checked-against-criminal-databases/
https://www.newstalk.com/news/these-people-are-fingerprinted-biggest-myths-about-asylum-seekers-1631836
Read the two articles and see if you can figure out who's telling the truth
Gript?? Sure you might as well throw up a link to mein kampf when your at it. You've no idea about this country, not a clue.
If McEnter and Varadkar enforced the laws already on the books this would be a non issue
They only have themselves to blame
What I've learned over the years is that it doesn't matter if something is true or not. What matters is whether people believe something to be true
With the collapse in people's confidence in traditional media outlets sources like Gript play a very important role in keeping them honest
Haha, you've learnt fcuk all if you think that. Go ask them who funds them.
Who funds mainstream media, then? And remember, too, that that is demonstrably dishonest when it comes to the immigration issue.
what laws arent being enforced again?
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 09, 2024, 07:07:01 AMwhat laws arent being enforced again?
https://www.newstalk.com/news/state-is-failing-to-enforce-its-own-immigration-rules-michael-mcnamara-td-1634712
Michael McNamara is a qualified barrister
Quote from: whitey on May 09, 2024, 11:02:02 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 09, 2024, 07:07:01 AMwhat laws arent being enforced again?
https://www.newstalk.com/news/state-is-failing-to-enforce-its-own-immigration-rules-michael-mcnamara-td-1634712
Michael McNamara is a qualified barrister
Not doing it or not doing it fast enough? Seems to be what he has said
Quote from: whitey on May 09, 2024, 11:02:02 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 09, 2024, 07:07:01 AMwhat laws arent being enforced again?
https://www.newstalk.com/news/state-is-failing-to-enforce-its-own-immigration-rules-michael-mcnamara-td-1634712
Michael McNamara is a qualified barrister
i see they are starting prosecutions. Youll be happy about that
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 09, 2024, 11:49:42 AMQuote from: whitey on May 09, 2024, 11:02:02 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 09, 2024, 07:07:01 AMwhat laws arent being enforced again?
https://www.newstalk.com/news/state-is-failing-to-enforce-its-own-immigration-rules-michael-mcnamara-td-1634712
Michael McNamara is a qualified barrister
i see they are starting prosecutions. Youll be happy about that
They are perceived by a wide swath of the population as not enforcing the law
This is giving oxygen to the dreaded "far right".
They only have themselves to blame-the laws are there-enforce them
According to the Irish Independent they are getting dogs abuse on the doorsteps
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/fine-gael-members-raise-security-concerns-over-harassment-while-canvassing/a774403242.html
Quote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Good stuff , my one mixed in with the kindling . Under a month to go to the Elections and most of the main Parties have been around already , no Fash thankfully .
Are you far right for thinking this fella shouldn't have been admitted to Ireland ?
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-who-followed-woman-to-toilets-and-tried-to-rape-her-jailed-for-predatory-actions/a1560765323.html
"The court heard Mohamed claimed to be from Somalia, which he had fled in 2017. He was in direct provision in Italy before being refused asylum in Germany, Italy and France. He travelled to Holland, where he got a false Swedish passport, which he destroyed while travelling to Ireland.
He applied for asylum in Ireland on his arrival in February 2022 and was placed in hotel accommodation in Dublin, where he lived until his arrest. His asylum application has not been decided."
Quote from: Kidder81 on May 09, 2024, 06:50:21 PMAre you far right for thinking this fella shouldn't have been admitted to Ireland ?
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-who-followed-woman-to-toilets-and-tried-to-rape-her-jailed-for-predatory-actions/a1560765323.html
"The court heard Mohamed claimed to be from Somalia, which he had fled in 2017. He was in direct provision in Italy before being refused asylum in Germany, Italy and France. He travelled to Holland, where he got a false Swedish passport, which he destroyed while travelling to Ireland.
He applied for asylum in Ireland on his arrival in February 2022 and was placed in hotel accommodation in Dublin, where he lived until his arrest. His asylum application has not been decided."
Don't be a racist now Kidder. You don't know what experiences these people have been through ;)
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 09, 2024, 08:41:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 09, 2024, 04:27:13 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Good stuff , my one mixed in with the kindling . Under a month to go to the Elections and most of the main Parties have been around already , no Fash thankfully .
Anyone who says 'Fash' to label others usually has serious ties to Antifa.
Anyone who calls themselves Rebel is usually anything but a rebel
To be a decent human being requires being anti Fascist.
Hint...Europe 1933 to 45 when the World saw the outworkings of Fascism.
And now you label anyone who wants national borders and sovereignty upheld a fascist? You don't really have a clue what fascism is, do you?
irelandisfull... that's not a call for national borders and sovereignty to be upheld? I'd be interested about how sovereignty isn't being upheld.
it's fascist and racist to blame everything on 'foreigners' when have little or nothing to do with poor government policy and enforcement over the past decade or 2.
Such as "were not having tent encampments"
Then directing IP applicants to Homeless services who say "We've no accomodation but here's a tent"
You couldn't make it up
Continually letting people into the country when there's nowhere to put them? You couldn't make it up.
Quote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 11:29:02 AMContinually letting people into the country when there's nowhere to put them? You couldn't make it up.
so blame the govt... not 'foreigners' and don't burn down hotels/accommodation!!
What about the Blasket islands? loads of room and no one living there at the minute.
Over 1,100 acres of unspoiled largely mountainous terrain, the Great Blasket Island is approximately 4 miles long by 1/2 mile wide. Home to an abundance of wildlife and fauna
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 10, 2024, 11:33:35 AMQuote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 11:29:02 AMContinually letting people into the country when there's nowhere to put them? You couldn't make it up.
so blame the govt... not 'foreigners' and don't burn down hotels/accommodation!!
International Law is above and beyond teeny extremist minds.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 10, 2024, 12:21:43 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 10, 2024, 11:33:35 AMQuote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 11:29:02 AMContinually letting people into the country when there's nowhere to put them? You couldn't make it up.
so blame the govt... not 'foreigners' and don't burn down hotels/accommodation!!
International Law is above and beyond teeny extremist minds.
Isn't that the main issue that came out of McNamara's dismantling of Helen McEntee-were not enforcing the laws that are already on the books
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 10, 2024, 11:33:35 AMQuote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 11:29:02 AMContinually letting people into the country when there's nowhere to put them? You couldn't make it up.
so blame the govt... not 'foreigners' and don't burn down hotels/accommodation!!
I am blaming the government.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 10, 2024, 12:21:43 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 10, 2024, 11:33:35 AMQuote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 11:29:02 AMContinually letting people into the country when there's nowhere to put them? You couldn't make it up.
so blame the govt... not 'foreigners' and don't burn down hotels/accommodation!!
International Law is above and beyond teeny extremist minds.
It's not one bit extreme to want to protect your nation's borders. Unless your dream is the mindless anti-fa/ anarchist mantra of "no nations, no borders".
Quote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 01:53:45 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 10, 2024, 11:33:35 AMQuote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 11:29:02 AMContinually letting people into the country when there's nowhere to put them? You couldn't make it up.
so blame the govt... not 'foreigners' and don't burn down hotels/accommodation!!
I am blaming the government.
no you are blaming immigration... if the laws were changed to open borders would you support it as it is then legal?
What a bizarre question.
I am blaming the government for allowing these levels of immigration.
Puh.
Quote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 06:04:27 PMWhat a bizarre question.
I am blaming the government for allowing these levels of immigration.
Puh.
what's the problem with immigration? what level is acceptable to you?
Ideally, immigration levels would be very low: the problem with massive demographic change is that the host society loses in the long run. Were the plantations of Ireland a good idea?
Quote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 09:20:32 PMIdeally, immigration levels would be very low: the problem with massive demographic change is that the host society loses in the long run. Were the plantations of Ireland a good idea?
Depends who you ask
Quote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 09:20:32 PMIdeally, immigration levels would be very low: the problem with massive demographic change is that the host society loses in the long run. Were the plantations of Ireland a good idea?
what's very low? what's massive demographic change?
the plantation was not immigration that was colonisation. are you suggesting we are being colonised?
Very low would be what we had prior to 1992. Massive demographic change is now.
The plantations were still immigration. You can play with words all you like, but that's what is was - organised immigration. Was it good for the host society? Were the early waves of immigration to the 'new world' good for the host societies? Was the immigration of Jews to the Middle East a good idea?(!) Will the current massive demographic change be good for Ireland?
Quote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 10:17:27 PMVery low would be what we had prior to 1992. Massive demographic change is now.
The plantations were still immigration. You can play with words all you like, but that's what is was - organised immigration. Was it good for the host society? Were the early waves of immigration to the 'new world' good for the host societies? Was the immigration of Jews to the Middle East a good idea?(!) Will the current massive demographic change be good for Ireland?
My head is sore!
Look, it's simple Ireland is part of the EU, we have do our share and a duty of care also to people that come to this island and claim asylum, are some of them wrong? Dam tight they are and what needs to happen is a better process to fix it.
Burning hostels and hate marches not going to fix it
Quote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 10:17:27 PMVery low would be what we had prior to 1992. Massive demographic change is now.
The plantations were still immigration. You can play with words all you like, but that's what is was - organised immigration. Was it good for the host society? Were the early waves of immigration to the 'new world' good for the host societies? Was the immigration of Jews to the Middle East a good idea?(!) Will the current massive demographic change be good for Ireland?
immigration and colonisation are not the same. Are you suggesting they are and what's happening now is organised immigration/colonisation?
you want to go back the 80s when over 400,000 had to emigrate. the 'massive demographic change' seems to doing alright for the country compared to the 80s.
No, I'm drawing a line between periods of large-scale immigration. Simple as that. You're trying to put words in my mouth. You may want to engage in semantics, but my point was that massive demographic change is not good for the host society in the long run.
Quote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 10:57:16 PMNo, I'm drawing a line between periods of large-scale immigration. Simple as that. You're trying to put words in my mouth. You may want to engage in semantics, but my point was that massive demographic change is not good for the host society in the long run.
its not as simple as that..
semantics? we are not being colonised..That's not semantics. loads of empty rhetoric
Not at all - 'tis not I engaging in empty rhetoric. Whether you call it plantation, colonisation, large-scale immigration, or massive demographic change, it still amounts to a bad deal for the host society. I actually think you're being deliberately evasive, but whatever.
Padraic Henry Pearse must be turning in his grave.
Good night.
Drive through any medium size town in Ireland today. Who are standing on the streets? They're are either immigrants or Irish fellas who have seriously over done on the sunbeds... Keady, Armagh, Ballybay, Newtown, Dungannon etc etc...
Quote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 10:57:16 PMNo, I'm drawing a line between periods of large-scale immigration. Simple as that. You're trying to put words in my mouth. You may want to engage in semantics, but my point was that massive demographic change is not good for the host society in the long run.
You're not so bad at it yourself, Mr Plantation.
Quote from: burdizzo on May 10, 2024, 11:35:19 PMNot at all - 'tis not I engaging in empty rhetoric. Whether you call it plantation, colonisation, large-scale immigration, or massive demographic change, it still amounts to a bad deal for the host society. I actually think you're being deliberately evasive, but whatever.
Padraic Henry Pearse must be turning in his grave.
Good night.
from the poster who brought us this..
QuoteAnd now you label anyone who wants national borders and sovereignty upheld a fascist? You don't really have a clue what fascism is, do you
?
It's not really that complicated
Enforce existing laws
Deport people whose claims are denied
Rigorous background checks on new arrivals
Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)
We've got to keep people like these out of the country....
https://m.independent.ie/regionals/carlow/news/carlow-heroes-save-woman-who-had-been-assaulted-before-being-thrown-into-river/a2123012170.html
Quote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 12:27:16 AMIt's not really that complicated
Enforce existing laws
Deport people whose claims are denied
Rigorous background checks on new arrivals
Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone. Do you send a form to their local police station?
Also, do you think their should be rigourous checks on all sides. Would there be anything to be said for some checks on these far right goons? I mean if they were involved in local sports, foroige, community games etc then they'd already have been Garda vetted, but we know none of them do anything in their community. I'm all for rigorous checks on them so we can see who has criminal records, beats their wife and sells drugs etc. I'm sure you'd agree you wouldn't want those type of people heading up your racist protests
And who is funding them.
One of them goes about roaring about protecting children. Yet a Court has banned him from any contact with his children. And he has drug dealing convictions to boot.
Another has a foreign wife who belched on a bank loan.
Reynolds and Barrett who both claim to be leaders of "The National(sic) Party" are standing in the North/West Euro constituency.
I wonder will they get more votes than Jamie Bin Lid 167.
Quote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 09:44:26 AMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 12:27:16 AMIt's not really that complicated
Enforce existing laws
Deport people whose claims are denied
Rigorous background checks on new arrivals
Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone. Do you send a form to their local police station?
Also, do you think their should be rigourous checks on all sides. Would there be anything to be said for some checks on these far right goons? I mean if they were involved in local sports, foroige, community games etc then they'd already have been Garda vetted, but we know none of them do anything in their community. I'm all for rigorous checks on them so we can see who has criminal records, beats their wife and sells drugs etc. I'm sure you'd agree you wouldn't want those type of people heading up your racist protests
Great
So we're in agreement then. More rigorous checks on incoming applicants are a good thing.
So we don't end up with a shambolic situation like the one highlighted last week where a guy (convicted sex offender) denied asylum in 3 separate countries can get in having destroyed a fake Swedish passport
And he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation
As a rule I wouldn't let anyone from countries like Somalia in, one of the least developed countries in the world and fair to say they have fairly different views to us. Oh and seem to like to carry knives.
Quote from: Kidder81 on May 11, 2024, 11:52:25 AMAs a rule I wouldn't let anyone from countries like Somalia in, one of the least developed countries in the world and fair to say they have fairly different views to us. Oh and seem to like to carry knives.
Was going to say bit of subtle racism there but it isn't even subtle.. just throw it out on social media that Somalians 'like to carry knives' - is how the far right works to instil fear and animosity towards migrants. Do u have evidence to support this?
Quote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 10:57:41 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 09:44:26 AMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 12:27:16 AMIt's not really that complicated
Enforce existing laws
Deport people whose claims are denied
Rigorous background checks on new arrivals
Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone. Do you send a form to their local police station?
Also, do you think their should be rigourous checks on all sides. Would there be anything to be said for some checks on these far right goons? I mean if they were involved in local sports, foroige, community games etc then they'd already have been Garda vetted, but we know none of them do anything in their community. I'm all for rigorous checks on them so we can see who has criminal records, beats their wife and sells drugs etc. I'm sure you'd agree you wouldn't want those type of people heading up your racist protests
Great
So we're in agreement then. More rigorous checks on incoming applicants are a good thing.
So we don't end up with a shambolic situation like the one highlighted last week where a guy (convicted sex offender) denied asylum in 3 separate countries can get in having destroyed a fake Swedish passport
And he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation
I asked you a question, you afraid to answer it
Quote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 02:31:36 PMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 10:57:41 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 09:44:26 AMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 12:27:16 AMIt's not really that complicated
Enforce existing laws
Deport people whose claims are denied
Rigorous background checks on new arrivals
Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone. Do you send a form to their local police station?
Also, do you think their should be rigourous checks on all sides. Would there be anything to be said for some checks on these far right goons? I mean if they were involved in local sports, foroige, community games etc then they'd already have been Garda vetted, but we know none of them do anything in their community. I'm all for rigorous checks on them so we can see who has criminal records, beats their wife and sells drugs etc. I'm sure you'd agree you wouldn't want those type of people heading up your racist protests
Great
So we're in agreement then. More rigorous checks on incoming applicants are a good thing.
So we don't end up with a shambolic situation like the one highlighted last week where a guy (convicted sex offender) denied asylum in 3 separate countries can get in having destroyed a fake Swedish passport
And he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation
I asked you a question, you afraid to answer it
Your "question" makes absolutely no sense and is actually irrelevant as to whether rigorous background checks should be carried out on people seeking international protection (some of whom have no id)
So you're in agreement with me on these rigorous checks......thats fantastic!
If you want to start a separate thread about "legal Irish residents" who have criminal convictions, and what activities, they should and shouldnt be allowed to partake in go right ahead. There are laws already in place and I would think (and hope) they are being fully enforced. If theyre not....then they should be
Quote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 02:43:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 02:31:36 PMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 10:57:41 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 09:44:26 AMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 12:27:16 AMIt's not really that complicated
Enforce existing laws
Deport people whose claims are denied
Rigorous background checks on new arrivals
Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone. Do you send a form to their local police station?
Also, do you think their should be rigourous checks on all sides. Would there be anything to be said for some checks on these far right goons? I mean if they were involved in local sports, foroige, community games etc then they'd already have been Garda vetted, but we know none of them do anything in their community. I'm all for rigorous checks on them so we can see who has criminal records, beats their wife and sells drugs etc. I'm sure you'd agree you wouldn't want those type of people heading up your racist protests
Great
So we're in agreement then. More rigorous checks on incoming applicants are a good thing.
So we don't end up with a shambolic situation like the one highlighted last week where a guy (convicted sex offender) denied asylum in 3 separate countries can get in having destroyed a fake Swedish passport
And he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation
I asked you a question, you afraid to answer it
Your "question" makes absolutely no sense and is actually irrelevant as to whether rigorous background checks should be carried out on people seeking international protection (some of whom have no id)
So you're in agreement with me on these rigorous checks......thats fantastic!
If you want to start a separate thread about "legal Irish residents" who have criminal convictions, and what activities, they should and shouldnt be allowed to partake in go right ahead. There are laws already in place and I would think (and hope) they are being fully enforced. If theyre not....then they should be
As usual too much of a shite to answer a question. Away with ya
I seriously don't know what your question is
Are you saying that people (legal Irish Residents) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) shouldn't be allowed (on principal) to lead protests or are you saying that people (legal Irish citizens) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) should be legally prohibited from leading protests?
In some jurisdictions you can be prohibited by a court of law from associating with "known criminals" as part of a sentencing agreement. If that, or similar processes are in place in Ireland, then I would expect and demand that the Gardai fully enforce it
Quote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 10:57:41 AMAnd he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation
Not your taxes though.
Pretty common right wing trope there
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2024, 03:41:12 PMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 10:57:41 AMAnd he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation
Not your taxes though.
Pretty common right wing trope there
Doesn't make it any less true
Quote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 04:04:48 PMQuote from: gallsman on May 11, 2024, 03:41:12 PMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 10:57:41 AMAnd he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation
Not your taxes though.
Pretty common right wing trope there
Doesn't make it any less true
your tax dollars spent destabilising most of the countries of the ME and North Africa..
Quote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 04:04:48 PMQuote from: gallsman on May 11, 2024, 03:41:12 PMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 10:57:41 AMAnd he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation
Not your taxes though.
Pretty common right wing trope there
Doesn't make it any less true
All sorts of meaningless things are true.
Quote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 03:33:04 PMI seriously don't know what your question is
Are you saying that people (legal Irish Residents) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) shouldn't be allowed (on principal) to lead protests or are you saying that people (legal Irish citizens) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) should be legally prohibited from leading protests?
In some jurisdictions you can be prohibited by a court of law from associating with "known criminals" as part of a sentencing agreement. If that, or similar processes are in place in Ireland, then I would expect and demand that the Gardai fully enforce it
Let's start with my 1st Question...
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone.
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 11, 2024, 08:20:11 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 06:01:21 PMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 03:33:04 PMI seriously don't know what your question is
Are you saying that people (legal Irish Residents) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) shouldn't be allowed (on principal) to lead protests or are you saying that people (legal Irish citizens) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) should be legally prohibited from leading protests?
In some jurisdictions you can be prohibited by a court of law from associating with "known criminals" as part of a sentencing agreement. If that, or similar processes are in place in Ireland, then I would expect and demand that the Gardai fully enforce it
Let's start with my 1st Question...
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone.
What war are the Georgians fleeing from?
The question is for the yank, you can keep your nonsense out of it dumbo
Name calling and insults will get a ban for a few days.
Last warning for Itchy in particular.
Is racism OK, asking a for a friend
Quote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 08:46:19 PMQuote from: Rebel84 on May 11, 2024, 08:20:11 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 06:01:21 PMQuote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 03:33:04 PMI seriously don't know what your question is
Are you saying that people (legal Irish Residents) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) shouldn't be allowed (on principal) to lead protests or are you saying that people (legal Irish citizens) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) should be legally prohibited from leading protests?
In some jurisdictions you can be prohibited by a court of law from associating with "known criminals" as part of a sentencing agreement. If that, or similar processes are in place in Ireland, then I would expect and demand that the Gardai fully enforce it
Let's start with my 1st Question...
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone.
What war are the Georgians fleeing from?
The question is for the yank, you can keep your nonsense out of it dumbo
Well my first response was going to be that a large percentage of people seeking international protection were NOT COMING FROM WARZONES, but from countries deemed safe by our own government
But for those fleeing warzones, with just the clothes on their backs, rigorous vetting does becomes more problematic.
The government HAD been telling us that peoples fingerprints were being checked against CRIMINAL databases. This is now proven to be 100% untrue.
The Irish Refugee Council has even amended such verbiage on their website
And would totally explain situations like this:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41391070.html
Nazifascist filth showing their true colours.
When are the Gardai and Authorities going to put an end to their campaigns of harrassment and abuse before there's a murder?
Yeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?
Quote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 12:14:15 PMYeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?
Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)
Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?
If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that? even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 12:51:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 12:14:15 PMYeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?
Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)
Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?
If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that? even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?
I'm fairly sure, if yer man was honest, vetting would consist of looking at the colour of the applicants face and if it wasn't white vetting failed. In addition check persons religion, if Muslim vetting failed.
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 01:09:15 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 12:51:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 12:14:15 PMYeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?
Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)
Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?
If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that? even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?
I'm fairly sure, if yer man was honest, vetting would consist of looking at the colour of the applicants face and if it wasn't white vetting failed. In addition check persons religion, if Muslim vetting failed.
The government had claimed that people's fingerprints were being checked against international criminal databases
That was not true.
Do you think it is a far right opinion to ask that people with no (or visibly fake) Id have their fingerprints checked against international criminal databases ?
No I don't think that's unreasonable. I would imagine it's fairly pointless though.
Now I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?
How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).
Is it a good start-yes
But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.
I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting
Quote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?
How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).
Is it a good start-yes
But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.
I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting
Where a thorough vetting is impossible or impractical I think we should be using every possible tool available and currently we're not doing that
(Even though the government and NGOs lied and said we were)
Quote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?
How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).
Is it a good start-yes
But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.
I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting
Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.
I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?
NGOs have now joined Soros, Globalists, "Liberals", "woke" people etc on the nazifascist hate list.
Shinners have gone top of the list in Ireland when they discovered that "Nationalist" in the 6.Cos context didn't mean the xenophobic neonazi Aryan version prevalent in the Continent.
Thought you loved being 'European'?!
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 04:01:51 PMQuote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?
How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).
Is it a good start-yes
But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.
I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting
Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.
I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?
Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?
Seems like a no brainer to me
Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least
Quote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 04:30:11 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 04:01:51 PMQuote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?
How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).
Is it a good start-yes
But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.
I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting
Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.
I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?
Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?
Seems like a no brainer to me
Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least
Debating with you is like debating with a 5 year old. Never answer questions, make statements (like above) trying to put words in my mouth, clearly i never said any such thing. I don't know why I bother. You're just a racist, it's as simple as that.
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 04:40:22 PMQuote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 04:30:11 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 04:01:51 PMQuote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?
How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).
Is it a good start-yes
But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.
I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting
Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.
I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?
Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?
Seems like a no brainer to me
Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least
Debating with you is like debating with a 5 year old. Never answer questions, make statements (like above) trying to put words in my mouth, clearly i never said any such thing. I don't know why I bother. You're just a racist, it's as simple as that.
The govt and various NGOs said that people without ID had their fingerprints run through an international criminal database
That was false......and I'm a racist for pointing it out
And I'm actually very much pro migrant
My biggest issue is that the fraudsters are taking resources and good will away from the legitimate asylum seekers/international protecting applicants.
The inability/unwillingness of the government to enforce existing laws has and their complete dishonesty when asked basic questions have created a tindex box.
More summery
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 07:57:41 PMMore summery
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html
52% of Sinn Fein supporters want checkpoints at the border with Northern Ireland to limit the number of asylum-seekers coming from the U.K.?
LOL
Couldn't make it up
I know, Sinn Vein's duplicity on this issue is finally catching up with them.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 07:57:41 PMMore summery
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html
Brave lads. If only they were so brave during the troubles we'd have put the Brits out ages ago
In 1841 the population of England and Wales was 16 million, of Ireland 8 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1841_United_Kingdom_census#Regional_populations
Ireland doesn't seem too full.
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 10:18:55 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 07:57:41 PMMore summery
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html
Brave lads. If only they were so brave during the troubles we'd have put the Brits out ages ago
Why did you want the Brits out? Why do you want everyone else in?!
Quote from: dec on May 14, 2024, 10:31:25 PMIn 1841 the population of England and Wales was 16 million, of Ireland 8 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1841_United_Kingdom_census#Regional_populations
Ireland doesn't seem too full.
In 1841 they were living squalid hovels, and now it's in tents by the canal. But, yeah, keep bringing more in 'til we have some other cataclysmic event!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 12:51:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 12:14:15 PMYeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?
Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)
Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?
If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that? even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?
Must have missed this question I asked earlier burdizzo
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 10:42:11 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 12:51:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 12:14:15 PMYeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?
Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)
Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?
If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that? even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?
Must have missed this question I asked earlier burdizzo
Oh. Most people don't answer my questions, either. I'd actually forgotten.
Yes, it is almost impossible to properly vet people, so most will be 'unvetted'. Given that, I think the rate of enforced deportations should be much higher. That is absolutely possible under the current laws.
What do you mean by "up in arms (literally)", referring to me, by the way?
Quote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 11:00:29 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 10:42:11 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 12:51:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 12:14:15 PMYeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?
Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)
Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?
If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that? even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?
Must have missed this question I asked earlier burdizzo
Oh. Most people don't answer my questions, either. I'd actually forgotten.
Yes, it is almost impossible to properly vet people, so most will be 'unvetted'. Given that, I think the rate of enforced deportations should be much higher. That is absolutely possible under the current laws.
What do you mean by "up in arms (literally)", referring to me, by the way?
Out protesting is up in arms, burning hostels , graffiti on walls and so on, are you protesting to get the judiciary to do it quicker or not have any asylum system in place or
So you're insinuating I'm out burning down hostels?
Quote from: burdizzo on May 15, 2024, 07:32:56 AMSo you're insinuating I'm out burning down hostels?
I don't know, are you? That would be a group that you align yourself with?
Quote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 10:33:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 10:18:55 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 07:57:41 PMMore summery
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html
Brave lads. If only they were so brave during the troubles we'd have put the Brits out ages ago
Why did you want the Brits out? Why do you want everyone else in?!
did this actually make sense in your head?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2024, 07:39:10 AMQuote from: burdizzo on May 15, 2024, 07:32:56 AMSo you're insinuating I'm out burning down hostels?
I don't know, are you? That would be a group that you align yourself with?
"I don't know"? No, you insinuated that. I have never on this board applauded such things. Now, go back to bed.
The uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2024, 07:26:37 AMQuote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 11:00:29 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 10:42:11 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 12:51:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 12:14:15 PMYeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?
Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)
Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?
If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that? even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?
Must have missed this question I asked earlier burdizzo
Oh. Most people don't answer my questions, either. I'd actually forgotten.
Yes, it is almost impossible to properly vet people, so most will be 'unvetted'. Given that, I think the rate of enforced deportations should be much higher. That is absolutely possible under the current laws.
What do you mean by "up in arms (literally)", referring to me, by the way?
Out protesting is up in arms, burning hostels , graffiti on walls and so on, are you protesting to get the judiciary to do it quicker or not have any asylum system in place or
Swapping 'arms' for 'keyboard (anonymous)' would be more accurate
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.
50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants
The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters
In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's ......
Gan focal Gaeilge acu.
If you said 2 words of Irish to them they'd think you were a foreigner🙄
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 10:14:44 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.
50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants
The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters
In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters
So out of touch its not funny
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 11:40:50 AMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 10:14:44 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.
50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants
The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters
In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters
So out of touch its not funny
Yes
Go to Trinity (or Blackrock College)
Add a few fadas to your name
Bobs your uncle
Champagne socialist starter pack
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 11:48:34 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 11:40:50 AMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 10:14:44 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.
50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants
The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters
In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters
So out of touch its not funny
Yes
Go to Trinity (or Blackrock College)
Add a few fadas to your name
Bobs your uncle
Champagne socialist starter pack
lol - talk about proving my point
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 11:40:50 AMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 10:14:44 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.
50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants
The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters
In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters
So out of touch its not funny
Sorry, Itchy, but he's right. The anarchist/ anti-fa wing of SF has been found out by the right-thinking ones, and SF doesn't have a clue what to do. It's quite funny, really!
Quote from: burdizzo on May 15, 2024, 01:58:24 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 11:40:50 AMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 10:14:44 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.
50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants
The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters
In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters
So out of touch its not funny
Sorry, Itchy, but he's right. The anarchist/ anti-fa wing of SF has been found out by the right-thinking ones, and SF doesn't have a clue what to do. It's quite funny, really!
Are you pro-fa?
Quote from: burdizzo on May 15, 2024, 01:58:24 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 11:40:50 AMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 10:14:44 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.
50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants
The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters
In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters
So out of touch its not funny
Sorry, Itchy, but he's right. The anarchist/ anti-fa wing of SF has been found out by the right-thinking ones, and SF doesn't have a clue what to do. It's quite funny, really!
No hes not right. He said the below. If you honestly believe that you are completely detached from reality. Its actually quite staggering that anybody would believe that given our very recent history involving border checkpoints. LOL indeed.
"52% of Sinn Fein supporters want checkpoints at the border with Northern Ireland to limit the number of asylum-seekers coming from the U.K.?
LOL
Couldn't make it up"
Quote from: HiMucker on May 15, 2024, 02:17:39 PMNo hes not right. He said the below. If you honestly believe that you are completely detached from reality. Its actually quite staggering that anybody would believe that given our very recent history involving border checkpoints. LOL indeed.
"52% of Sinn Fein supporters want checkpoints at the border with Northern Ireland to limit the number of asylum-seekers coming from the U.K.?
LOL
Couldn't make it up"
This is not "very recent" to most SF voters in the 26 counties, at best they were in national school then, and of course they didn't think deeply about the issue, they have a twitter approach to politics.
Immigration is an issue that could completely derail Sinn Fein (or any political party for that matter) in a similar way that Brexit created gaping holes in traditional voting patterns in the UK.
Another hero for the our pro fa people to drool over!
How much has this yoke cost the taxpayers to date?
He has a job and still gets legal aid FFS!
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/apprentice-electrician-charged-with-rioting-and-burning-luas-during-dublin-disorder/a1918720127.html
Sinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2024, 03:00:57 PMAnother hero for the our pro fa people to drool over!
How much has this yoke cost the taxpayers to date?
He has a job and still gets legal aid FFS!
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/apprentice-electrician-charged-with-rioting-and-burning-luas-during-dublin-disorder/a1918720127.html
All "asylum seekers" get free legal aid for their appeals. Imagine exposing the Irish tax payer to the combination of an endless amount of chancers from all around the world and unscrupulous lawyers. Barmy!
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Yes and yes
1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around
Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some
Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Yes and yes
1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around
Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some
Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.
What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:59:56 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Yes and yes
1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around
Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some
Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.
What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.
I'm saying Sinn Feins FPV % will fall by somewhere between 25% and 33% over what the received in 2020
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:11:55 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:59:56 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Yes and yes
1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around
Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some
Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.
What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.
I'm saying Sinn Feins FPV % will fall by somewhere between 25% and 33% over what the received in 2020
How many MEPs will they lose/gain and how many co councillors will they lose/gain. Surely a man with your local knowledge knows enough to make that prediction.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:15:14 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:11:55 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:59:56 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Yes and yes
1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around
Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some
Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.
What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.
I'm saying Sinn Feins FPV % will fall by somewhere between 25% and 33% over what the received in 2020
How many MEPs will they lose/gain and how many co councillors will they lose/gain. Surely a man with your local knowledge knows enough to make that prediction.
Don't know because it depends on Turnout and transfers which no one can predict
In addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:22:26 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:15:14 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:11:55 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:59:56 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Yes and yes
1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around
Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some
Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.
What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.
I'm saying Sinn Feins FPV % will fall by somewhere between 25% and 33% over what the received in 2020
How many MEPs will they lose/gain and how many co councillors will they lose/gain. Surely a man with your local knowledge knows enough to make that prediction.
Don't know because it depends on Turnout and transfers which no one can predict
Well it's great we found something you don't know. If you were in Ireland you could have watched a harrowing 3 part series into the deaths of 48 people in the Stardust fire. Lynn Boylan has worked with those working class families for years to secure a new inquest which in the end finally brought truth to the fore. Lynn Boylan will top the poll by a mile in Dublin. At the same time the people you seem to have similar beliefs to, are out burning buildings. Think about that.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:23:53 PMIn addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:23:53 PMIn addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.
No-that's not what I said
I said their FPV % would drop by 25-33% off their 2020 GE FPV% where they got 24.5% of FPVs
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:31:38 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:23:53 PMIn addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:23:53 PMIn addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.
No-that's not what I said
I said their FPV % would drop by 25-33% off their 2020 GE FPV% where they got 24.5% of FPVs
General elections and Co Council elections 2 different things.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:30:19 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:22:26 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:15:14 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:11:55 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:59:56 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Yes and yes
1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around
Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some
Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.
What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.
I'm saying Sinn Feins FPV % will fall by somewhere between 25% and 33% over what the received in 2020
How many MEPs will they lose/gain and how many co councillors will they lose/gain. Surely a man with your local knowledge knows enough to make that prediction.
Don't know because it depends on Turnout and transfers which no one can predict
Well it's great we found something you don't know. If you were in Ireland you could have watched a harrowing 3 part series into the deaths of 48 people in the Stardust fire. Lynn Boylan has worked with those working class families for years to secure a new inquest which in the end finally brought truth to the fore. Lynn Boylan will top the poll by a mile in Dublin. At the same time the people you seem to have similar beliefs to, are out burning buildings. Think about that.
No need to be getting mad at me just because Sinn Fein screwed up and sold out their base to the NGOs
I'll stand by my prediction-Sinn Feins FPV% vote will decline by 25-33% versus what they got during the 2020 general election
I'll make a €50 donation to a charity of your choice if I'm wrong
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:34:10 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:31:38 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:23:53 PMIn addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:23:53 PMIn addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.
No-that's not what I said
I said their FPV % would drop by 25-33% off their 2020 GE FPV% where they got 24.5% of FPVs
General elections and Co Council elections 2 different things.
Never said they were
2020 should be Sinn Feins baseline. That's what I'm basing my prediction off
SF down 5 points in latest opinion poll.
Quote from: burdizzo on May 16, 2024, 08:08:33 AMSF down 5 points in latest opinion poll.
I saw that
But I also saw FG going up by 4 which I find hard to believe
Elections are decided by the voters, not the polls. It will all depend on who can turn out their voters on the day
Nazifascist scum at it again.
Are the Authirities waiting for someone to be murdered by the filth before they act?
And I see where one of the anarchist/ anti-fa, cry-baby, victim-worshipping, lawless leftists was being held after trying to kill an election candidate. Niiice.
Quote from: burdizzo on May 20, 2024, 04:09:10 PMAnd I see where one of the anarchist/ anti-fa, cry-baby, victim-worshipping, lawless leftists was being held after trying to kill an election candidate. Niiice.
Slightly unhinged post lol
No more so than the one preceding it!
Another nazifascist hero!
Any chance we could replace him with a decent human being.
Some people should stick to their brainless anti-fa pages.
Nazifascist terrorist thugs at it again!
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2024/0522/1450631-arson-dublin/
Ireland's full mate - https://x.com/Cobratate/status/1792969332483342412
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 22, 2024, 04:07:17 PMIreland's full mate - https://x.com/Cobratate/status/1792969332483342412
As if we haven't enough dickheads in the country
And of course they all get free legal aid🙄...
I was going to say they'll be losing a days pay🤣😅
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0522/1450715-ballyogan-protest-court/
Yeah, as if the "asylum seekers" don't get free legal aid for their multiple appeals.
Better late than never
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0523/1450759-court-/
Quote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2024, 08:51:07 AMBetter late than never
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0523/1450759-court-/
I'm sure it keeps you up at night
Quote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2024, 08:51:07 AMBetter late than never
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0523/1450759-court-/
excellent
Quote from: Kidder81 on May 23, 2024, 08:55:09 AMQuote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2024, 08:51:07 AMBetter late than never
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0523/1450759-court-/
I'm sure it keeps you up at night
Are you upset that fascists are at last being taken in by the Authorities?
Aw diddums.....
Quote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2024, 10:21:20 AMQuote from: Kidder81 on May 23, 2024, 08:55:09 AMQuote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2024, 08:51:07 AMBetter late than never
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0523/1450759-court-/
I'm sure it keeps you up at night
Are you upset that fascists are at last being taken in by the Authorities?
Aw diddums.....
Fascists? Or people who value their own community and want to protect it?
Bizarre that some people want to put every class of "asylum seeker" above their own. Must be misfits themselves?
Quote from: burdizzo on May 23, 2024, 10:56:19 AMQuote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2024, 10:21:20 AMQuote from: Kidder81 on May 23, 2024, 08:55:09 AMQuote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2024, 08:51:07 AMBetter late than never
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0523/1450759-court-/
I'm sure it keeps you up at night
Are you upset that fascists are at last being taken in by the Authorities?
Aw diddums.....
Fascists? Or people who value their own community and want to protect it?
Bizarre that some people want to put every class of "asylum seeker" above their own. Must be misfits themselves?
and how was this protecting their community?
Terrorist law breaking and arson is "protecting their own community"
I've heard it all now ::)
Blocking a taxi and roaring in the window at a passenger "get out of our f**king Country" is a welcoming comment?
Then we have the Council candidate in Kerry who says no "blacks or descendants of immigrants" should be allowed stand for election.
Of course it wasn't a welcoming comment. It wasn't supposed to be. Welcoming anyone and everyone to the country is not a virtue, contrary to what the antifa/ anarchist types think.
Quote from: burdizzo on May 23, 2024, 01:54:39 PMOf course it wasn't a welcoming comment. It wasn't supposed to be. Welcoming anyone and everyone to the country is not a virtue, contrary to what the antifa/ anarchist types think.
I suppose that was protecting their community was it
One of the 9 a well know nazifascist from Carlow!!!!
Went 90 miles to "protect his community"....🙄
Quote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2024, 02:36:40 PMOne of the 9 a well know nazifascist from Carlow!!!!
Went 90 miles to "protect his community"....🙄
What's wrong with that? Sure, you want us to take in anyone who turns up from 900 to 9,000 miles away!
Quote from: burdizzo on May 23, 2024, 03:42:40 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2024, 02:36:40 PMOne of the 9 a well know nazifascist from Carlow!!!!
Went 90 miles to "protect his community"....🙄
What's wrong with that? Sure, you want us to take in anyone who turns up from 900 to 9,000 miles away!
No chance, would mean lifting your anonymous head from the laptop to answer the door
Another hero protecting us
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41401438.html
At least he's showing a bit of bottle!!
Disaffected 'youth' sees a way to get involved in a bit of aggro and doesn't pass it up.
Had no idea what was going on, doesn't follow politics but someone says "Get angry" and the impressionable lap it up
A bit of bottle hahaha
More "protecting the Community"
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/crime-and-courts/1509511/gardai-probe-complaint-of-harassment-to-limerick-mayoral-election-candidate.html
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2024, 09:01:40 AMMore "protecting the Community"
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/crime-and-courts/1509511/gardai-probe-complaint-of-harassment-to-limerick-mayoral-election-candidate.html
Will probably be described as 'showing bottle'
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 24, 2024, 08:57:57 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2024, 09:01:40 AMMore "protecting the Community"
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/crime-and-courts/1509511/gardai-probe-complaint-of-harassment-to-limerick-mayoral-election-candidate.html
Will probably be described as 'showing bottle'
Oh, I thought you got the joke. Perhaps you didn't even read the article? Honest to God...
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/sqrLfRz8R6n3CAs2/
Pure unadulterated hate, it just happened to transfer from the non-whites to a woman there... Vile
I'd say it there was dole parity with the North, this would sort alot of this out
Quote from: JoG2 on May 25, 2024, 07:15:10 AMPure unadulterated hate, it just happened to transfer from the non-whites to a woman there... Vile
I'd say it there was dole parity with the North, this would sort alot of this out
Garda need to start recording these incidents and scoop these scumbags up later.
Those things are really and truly the scum of the earth.
To think there are people here supporting that, one of them calling it "protecting community".
And imagine there's them among us want to import anyone and everyone to live in tents down by the canal. Great idea, buddy!
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2024, 11:12:42 PMhttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/sqrLfRz8R6n3CAs2/
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 25, 2024, 07:52:29 AMQuote from: JoG2 on May 25, 2024, 07:15:10 AMPure unadulterated hate, it just happened to transfer from the non-whites to a woman there... Vile
I'd say it there was dole parity with the North, this would sort alot of this out
Garda need to start recording these incidents and scoop these scumbags up later.
Continuing with the trend of creating parallels between current events and events that occurred during the course of Irish History (eg October 7th/Easter Rising) if the Bean Garda in the video clip was a female Black and Tan or B Special would the abuse have been justified?
Quote from: whitey on May 25, 2024, 03:19:45 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2024, 11:12:42 PMhttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/sqrLfRz8R6n3CAs2/
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 25, 2024, 07:52:29 AMQuote from: JoG2 on May 25, 2024, 07:15:10 AMPure unadulterated hate, it just happened to transfer from the non-whites to a woman there... Vile
I'd say it there was dole parity with the North, this would sort alot of this out
Garda need to start recording these incidents and scoop these scumbags up later.
Continuing with the trend of creating parallels between current events and events that occurred during the course of Irish History (eg October 7th/Easter Rising) if the Bean Garda in the video clip was a female Black and Tan or B Special would the abuse have been justified?
Female black and Tan 😆 Are you saying wum or is it really possible for a human to be this thick
Oh look - a poll showing us that immigration is the number one issue for voters in the elections. And guess what? The vast majority have a negative opinion of same. Turns out that most people think looking after your own first is a good idea. Weird, eh?
Quote from: Itchy on May 25, 2024, 03:41:47 PMQuote from: whitey on May 25, 2024, 03:19:45 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2024, 11:12:42 PMhttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/sqrLfRz8R6n3CAs2/
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 25, 2024, 07:52:29 AMQuote from: JoG2 on May 25, 2024, 07:15:10 AMPure unadulterated hate, it just happened to transfer from the non-whites to a woman there... Vile
I'd say it there was dole parity with the North, this would sort alot of this out
Garda need to start recording these incidents and scoop these scumbags up later.
Continuing with the trend of creating parallels between current events and events that occurred during the course of Irish History (eg October 7th/Easter Rising) if the Bean Garda in the video clip was a female Black and Tan or B Special would the abuse have been justified?
Female black and Tan 😆 Are you saying wum or is it really possible for a human to be this thick
I've decided on my number 1 and 2 in the Council Election
1 Saijid Hussein
2 Majid Ali.
Whitey is some apologist for hate.
Another "hero" for the gruesome twosome to drool over
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/dublin-teen-allegedly-threw-petrol-bombs-at-migrant-housing-with-security-guard-inside/a1681252001.html
Quote from: JoG2 on May 25, 2024, 07:15:10 AMPure unadulterated hate, it just happened to transfer from the non-whites to a woman there... Vile
I'd say it there was dole parity with the North, this would sort alot of this out
The civil liberties/ Human rights activists would go nuts but any of these scum and anybody repeatedly caught for low level crime/public order offences there punishment should be suspension of there passports rather than fines or another public order issued.
These guys don't gave a damn about another court appearance but might not like to lose the Santa Ponsa trip for a summer or two.
Sure, if they had no passports, they could just swan over and pretend to be asylum seekers!
Another quality candidate in Sligo
https://m.independent.ie/regionals/sligo/news/local-election-candidate-further-remanded-on-charges-of-causing-6800-worth-of-damage-at-house-in-west-sligo/a693764148.html
This sc**bag is also up on assault too in a separate case.
Seemingly he has some kind of "music festival" this weekend.
Is there no level to which this scum filth wont sink to?
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41408726.html
Another piece of "Community protection"
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/out-of-control-protester-filmed-on-garda-bodycam-punching-officer-in-face-court-hears/a439709796.html
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2024, 03:18:24 PMAnother piece of "Community protection"
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/out-of-control-protester-filmed-on-garda-bodycam-punching-officer-in-face-court-hears/a439709796.html
Is it time that the right wing parties started "vetting" their members and the people running for election for them?
They'd have no one left then ::)
Hoping that the good people of Ireland (26) come out today and shun these far right goons. It would be very sad to see any other result.
Did my bit, left them yokes all blank.
3 or 4 of the cnuts elected in Dublin.
There are around 950 Council seats in total.
Another of the cnuts ejected from a Count Centre for allegedly assaulting some people.
Sadly Europe in general moving towards extreme right.
Last time that happened Europe had WW2, 40 million deaths, millions displaced, half the Continent destroyed.......
Obviously all the voters who lived through that now dead and the human race displays its inate stupidity once again.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2024, 11:06:10 AM3 or 4 of the cnuts elected in Dublin.
There are around 950 Council seats in total.
Another of the cnuts ejected from a Count Centre for allegedly assaulting some people.
Sadly Europe in general moving towards extreme right.
Last time that happened Europe had WW2, 40 million deaths, millions displaced, half the Continent destroyed.......
Obviously all the voters who lived through that now dead and the human race displays its inate stupidity once again.
60 million its was estimated died during WW2, that was from the show on Netflix Hitler and the Nazi's evil on trial .
Yeah the far right across the world building, but Giorgia Meloni in Italy has (by some political experts on the radio) has toned down on a lot of stuff pre election. Say what ya can to get in, then do what everyone else has done beforehand it seems. Normal
My figure of 40m was Europe only.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2024, 11:06:10 AM3 or 4 of the cnuts elected in Dublin.
There are around 950 Council seats in total.
Another of the cnuts ejected from a Count Centre for allegedly assaulting some people.
Sadly Europe in general moving towards extreme right.
Last time that happened Europe had WW2, 40 million deaths, millions displaced, half the Continent destroyed.......
Obviously all the voters who lived through that now dead and the human race displays its inate stupidity once again.
Boomers are losing it, right-thinking is a coming youth movement. Hard luck!
Ever think WHY Europe is moving to a right-thinking alternative? No idea? Everything happens for a reason, pal.
Quote from: burdizzo on June 11, 2024, 12:28:38 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2024, 11:06:10 AM3 or 4 of the cnuts elected in Dublin.
There are around 950 Council seats in total.
Another of the cnuts ejected from a Count Centre for allegedly assaulting some people.
Sadly Europe in general moving towards extreme right.
Last time that happened Europe had WW2, 40 million deaths, millions displaced, half the Continent destroyed.......
Obviously all the voters who lived through that now dead and the human race displays its inate stupidity once again.
Boomers are losing it, right-thinking is a coming youth movement. Hard luck!
Ever think WHY Europe is moving to a right-thinking alternative? No idea? Everything happens for a reason, pal.
You tell us.
Quote from: Orior on June 11, 2024, 01:57:26 PMQuote from: burdizzo on June 11, 2024, 12:28:38 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2024, 11:06:10 AM3 or 4 of the cnuts elected in Dublin.
There are around 950 Council seats in total.
Another of the cnuts ejected from a Count Centre for allegedly assaulting some people.
Sadly Europe in general moving towards extreme right.
Last time that happened Europe had WW2, 40 million deaths, millions displaced, half the Continent destroyed.......
Obviously all the voters who lived through that now dead and the human race displays its inate stupidity once again.
Boomers are losing it, right-thinking is a coming youth movement. Hard luck!
Ever think WHY Europe is moving to a right-thinking alternative? No idea? Everything happens for a reason, pal.
You tell us.
Most of the people who lived through ww2 are dead and there are a lot of very stupid ignorant people around, he'll bent on reliving that period again. Like this clown
Oh, so mass immigration has nothing to do with it!? Course, not - it's housing!! Ha ha! Shinners make me laugh!!
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2024, 11:06:10 AM3 or 4 of the cnuts elected in Dublin.
There are around 950 Council seats in total.
Another of the cnuts ejected from a Count Centre for allegedly assaulting some people.
Sadly Europe in general moving towards extreme right.
Last time that happened Europe had WW2, 40 million deaths, millions displaced, half the Continent destroyed.......
Obviously all the voters who lived through that now dead and the human race displays its inate stupidity once again.
Is that not a desperately poor result for the Irish racists? Ireland First tailed off in last place?
100 migrant/migrant background Councillors
4 Racist Councillors.
Another stunning victory for the latter ::)
More fine specimens for the 2 lads to drool over...
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/irish-freedom-party-candidate-facing-weapons-and-public-order-charges/a443306080.html
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/woman-court-charged-asylum-seeker-33008731
Rosspam, at it again, eh?
I shan't stoop to your level of putting to links to crime immigrants commit. I have better things to do with my time, and my life isn't so empty.
Straight from 1930s Germany and Lebensborn
https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/1528054/breaking-drama-as-independent-mcdonnell-lands-newbridge-seat-on-kildare-county-council.html
Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2024, 11:14:53 AMStraight from 1930s Germany and Lebensborn
https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/1528054/breaking-drama-as-independent-mcdonnell-lands-newbridge-seat-on-kildare-county-council.html
Seems like a bright fellow, although maths might not be his strong point.
I see poor Enoch lost his defamation case against the Sindo. That'll cost his some money to pay their legal fees and his own, plus all the fines he accrued for refusing to heed the courts direction. He might be as well to stay in jail.
Bit of bother in Clonmel?
Quote from: Itchy on June 13, 2024, 01:30:15 PMI see poor Enoch lost his defamation case against the Sindo. That'll cost his some money to pay their legal fees and his own, plus all the fines he accrued for refusing to heed the courts direction. He might be as well to stay in jail.
Agree or disagree but he's fairly stuck to his guns
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 14, 2024, 10:04:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on June 13, 2024, 01:30:15 PMI see poor Enoch lost his defamation case against the Sindo. That'll cost his some money to pay their legal fees and his own, plus all the fines he accrued for refusing to heed the courts direction. He might be as well to stay in jail.
Agree or disagree but he's fairly stuck to his guns
He'll need the guns to rob a bank
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 14, 2024, 10:04:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on June 13, 2024, 01:30:15 PMI see poor Enoch lost his defamation case against the Sindo. That'll cost his some money to pay their legal fees and his own, plus all the fines he accrued for refusing to heed the courts direction. He might be as well to stay in jail.
Agree or disagree but he's fairly stuck to his guns
He's to be pitied not respected. Batshit crazy and when you see the family it's little wonder.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2024, 11:32:01 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 14, 2024, 10:04:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on June 13, 2024, 01:30:15 PMI see poor Enoch lost his defamation case against the Sindo. That'll cost his some money to pay their legal fees and his own, plus all the fines he accrued for refusing to heed the courts direction. He might be as well to stay in jail.
Agree or disagree but he's fairly stuck to his guns
He's to be pitied not respected. Batshit crazy and when you see the family it's little wonder.
For a family big into the law, it's went a bit belly up for them....all of them.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 14, 2024, 10:04:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on June 13, 2024, 01:30:15 PMI see poor Enoch lost his defamation case against the Sindo. That'll cost his some money to pay their legal fees and his own, plus all the fines he accrued for refusing to heed the courts direction. He might be as well to stay in jail.
Agree or disagree but he's fairly stuck to his guns
What's the saying, insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Quote from: Itchy on June 13, 2024, 01:30:15 PMI see poor Enoch lost his defamation case against the Sindo. That'll cost his some money to pay their legal fees and his own, plus all the fines he accrued for refusing to heed the courts direction. He might be as well to stay in jail.
LOL
The Burke's have received international exposure for their views on this topic
I'd wager that their legal fees will be covered by Evangelicals in the US
Quote from: whitey on June 14, 2024, 02:38:00 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 13, 2024, 01:30:15 PMI see poor Enoch lost his defamation case against the Sindo. That'll cost his some money to pay their legal fees and his own, plus all the fines he accrued for refusing to heed the courts direction. He might be as well to stay in jail.
LOL
The Burke's have received international exposure for their views on this topic
I'd wager that their legal fees will be covered by Evangelicals in the US
Will the Evangelicals get the idiot out of jail?
Quote from: whitey on June 14, 2024, 02:38:00 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 13, 2024, 01:30:15 PMI see poor Enoch lost his defamation case against the Sindo. That'll cost his some money to pay their legal fees and his own, plus all the fines he accrued for refusing to heed the courts direction. He might be as well to stay in jail.
LOL
The Burke's have received international exposure for their views on this topic
I'd wager that their legal fees will be covered by Evangelicals in the US
When that happens throw me up a link for that lol
Oirish version of the KKK backvto their thuggish best
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/masked-anti-immigration-protesters-cleared-by-gardai-after-gathering-outside-taoiseach-simon-harriss-family-home/a462450409.html
https://x.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/1802613846873412020
Absolutely shocking scenes from yesterday in Dublin. Ireland is going to the dogs. What exactly are the people in power in Dublin doing to combat this? It's every week now there is something happening like this.
Quote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 17, 2024, 12:09:49 PMhttps://x.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/1802613846873412020
Absolutely shocking scenes from yesterday in Dublin. Ireland is going to the dogs. What exactly are the people in power in Dublin doing to combat this? It's every week now there is something happening like this.
What's actually happening there? Is it street attacks on foreign nationals?
The right wing sweeping this island is a cancer.
Thats fecking wild. Did he try to kidnap a child?
Surely they didn't just spot the first foreigner they say and lay into him??? If so they want locking up.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 17, 2024, 12:40:31 PMThats fecking wild. Did he try to kidnap a child?
Surely they didn't just spot the first foreigner they say and lay into him??? If so they want locking up.
They were saying he tried to abduct a child. In broad daylight. On O'Connell Street. On foot.
The far right are obsessed with imaginary sex crimes by immigrants.
If I had to place a bet, I'd say that poor man was on his way to or from work and minding his own business. The lad laying the heaviest blows had a blue knuckle-duster. Not your every day item you take with you shopping.
Every single one of them should do 10 years in jail.
Quote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 17, 2024, 01:07:38 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 17, 2024, 12:40:31 PMThats fecking wild. Did he try to kidnap a child?
Surely they didn't just spot the first foreigner they say and lay into him??? If so they want locking up.
They were saying he tried to abduct a child. In broad daylight. On O'Connell Street. On foot.
The far right are obsessed with imaginary sex crimes by immigrants.
If I had to place a bet, I'd say that poor man was on his way to or from work and minding his own business. The lad laying the heaviest blows had a blue knuckle-duster. Not your every day item you take with you shopping.
Every single one of them should do 10 years in jail.
Wild.
Quote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 17, 2024, 01:07:38 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 17, 2024, 12:40:31 PMThats fecking wild. Did he try to kidnap a child?
Surely they didn't just spot the first foreigner they say and lay into him??? If so they want locking up.
They were saying he tried to abduct a child. In broad daylight. On O'Connell Street. On foot.
The far right are obsessed with imaginary sex crimes by immigrants.
If I had to place a bet, I'd say that poor man was on his way to or from work and minding his own business. The lad laying the heaviest blows had a blue knuckle-duster. Not your every day item you take with you shopping.
Every single one of them should do 10 years in jail.
Those Irish patriot types would make you ashamed to be Irish. It all started with a rump of angry rabble rousers but you can see how they have influenced ordinary peoples thinking to create more fear, hatred and division. Then their ring leaders profit off it. It's noticeable how they derive an awful lot of their support online from MAGA Americans and far right English nationalists.
Scumbags. State of them with the Irish tricolour more in league with their hero Tommy Robinson who supported Bloody Sunday 'soldier x' and the English BNP or NF or watever the hell they call themselves now..
Its like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
Quote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
Watching Hitler and the Nazi's on trial, on Netflix at the minute, any stuff that comes on on that war and the Vietnam wars I'll have watched them many times.
But people have to have their head in the sands if they don't think history doesn't repeat itself, few different things picked up on this doc that were new to me, and I'd thought I read or seen the lot.
So many similarities around the world, brainless headers walking into traps through propaganda and fake news
The middle east is just one tinderbox thats going to explode and the current Ukrainian invasion is no different to Hitler going into the Sudetenland to annex the German speaking Czechs. Far right European leaders stoking up immigration like the Germans did about the Jews..
It's a mess
Quote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
So in your (alternative) universe, exactly what types of protests would be allowed before one would be expected to be beaten off the streets?
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on., Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that
But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly
Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?
Quote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on., Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that
But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly
Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?
I'll give you a clue... Orange Order - RUC far right.. beating down and oppressing minorities.
Quote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on., Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that
But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly
Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?
Would you call the thugs in that video clip far right?
Quote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 17, 2024, 05:15:41 PMQuote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on., Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that
But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly
Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?
Would you call the thugs in that video clip far right?
I don't know what their political ideology is, but I would say they're racists, xenophobes and scumbags
It all depends on your definition of far right
Do you have a definition you care to share with us?
(Up until the recent election many of those now being accused of being far right would have been hard left voters)
Quote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 06:33:13 PMQuote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 17, 2024, 05:15:41 PMQuote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on., Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that
But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly
Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?
Would you call the thugs in that video clip far right?
I don't know what their political ideology is, but I would say they're racists, xenophobes and scumbags
It all depends on your definition of far right
Do you have a definition you care to share with us?
(Up until the recent election many of those now being accused of being far right would have been hard left voters)
Their knuckle dragging nativism alone would qualify them as far right, in my opinion.
What makes you think these types would have been previously hard left?
What is your definition of hard left? PBP? IRSP?
Pointless discussion. How do you know the lad didn't try and snatch a child? Maybe he wasn't so innocent. The attackers certainly seemed pretty cross! How do you know they were "far right"?
I'm not going to start posting links to immigrants committing crime, but there'd be plenty of material.
What's 'hard left'? A lot of the posters on this thread have extreme antifa tendencies. They're hard left. Only not so hard any more, because the zeitgeist has moved on. Poor them, and their victim-worshipping.
Quote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on., Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that
But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly
Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?
Get the f**k with that complete and utter BS pal
Deflecting to take our attention off the nazifascist filth.
Quote from: burdizzo on June 17, 2024, 08:39:39 PMPointless discussion. How do you know the lad didn't try and snatch a child? Maybe he wasn't so innocent. The attackers certainly seemed pretty cross! How do you know they were "far right"?
I'm not going to start posting links to immigrants committing crime, but there'd be plenty of material.
What's 'hard left'? A lot of the posters on this thread have extreme antifa tendencies. They're hard left. Only not so hard any more, because the zeitgeist has moved on. Poor them, and their victim-worshipping.
He was clearly on foot. Where did he snatch the child to? His little rucksack?
So you think the emotional state of a baying attacking mob, one armed with a deadly weapon, is an indicator of the victims guilt? Is that right?
It's little wonder Ireland is in the state it's in when you have people trying to defend the indefensible.
Unbelievable.
Quote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on., Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that
But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly
Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?
Utter bollocks and I think everyone else beat off the road with me would agree.
Is it more likely that this fella tried to grab a child or that those attacking him did it out of the blue?
Would it surprise you that someone tried to kidnap a child in broad daylight? Not really tbh and obviously if this fella has done that he deserved what he got and more.
Would it surprise you that a gang of scumbags decided to beat lumps of a man because they're racist pricks? Sadly, that wouldn't be a surprise either and if thats the case they should all do serious time.
Quote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 17, 2024, 08:48:36 PMQuote from: burdizzo on June 17, 2024, 08:39:39 PMPointless discussion. How do you know the lad didn't try and snatch a child? Maybe he wasn't so innocent. The attackers certainly seemed pretty cross! How do you know they were "far right"?
I'm not going to start posting links to immigrants committing crime, but there'd be plenty of material.
What's 'hard left'? A lot of the posters on this thread have extreme antifa tendencies. They're hard left. Only not so hard any more, because the zeitgeist has moved on. Poor them, and their victim-worshipping.
He was clearly on foot. Where did he snatch the child to? His little rucksack?
So you think the emotional state of a baying attacking mob, one armed with a deadly weapon, is an indicator of the victims guilt? Is that right?
It's little wonder Ireland is in the state it's in when you have people trying to defend the indefensible.
Unbelievable.
You have no idea what the backstory is. But, as you say yourself, you believe what you want to believe. How gullible are you?
Oh yeah...
By the way, I have no idea what the backstory is, either. Notice, however, how I don't jump to any conclusions.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 17, 2024, 08:43:04 PMQuote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on., Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that
But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly
Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?
Get the f**k with that complete and utter BS pal
I'm 100% serious
If you are given a legal order by an officer of the law are you obliged to obey it?
Let's say we have 2 people.
One is blocking access to an IPAS Center
The other is blocking an Orange March from legally marching down a particular street.
Who, if any, of the two should be "beaten off the street" by the authorities ?
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Turns out these lads were just law abiding citizens who just happened to come across a crime and just happened to have a knuckle duster handy.
You have no idea what happened in this case. None.
On the other hand, you are advocating violence against people you don't like. The republican-anarchist thugs have done it before, and no doubt you cheered that on. There's nothing respectable about that.
Quote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 09:25:29 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 17, 2024, 08:43:04 PMQuote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on., Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.
Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that
But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly
Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?
Get the f**k with that complete and utter BS pal
I'm 100% serious
If you are given a legal order by an officer of the law are you obliged to obey it?
Let's say we have 2 people.
One is blocking access to an IPAS Center
The other is blocking an Orange March from legally marching down a particular street.
Who, if any, of the two should be "beaten off the street" by the authorities ?
I repeat what I said earlier. Go and f**k with that equivalence
Tonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
Some rabbit holes here to try and prove some point ;D
https://extra.ie/2024/06/18/news/irish-news/concern-migrant-attacks
Here is the 'backstory':
"Gardaí have 'growing concerns' over the number of assaults carried out on migrants, with many of the new arrivals falsely accused of targeting children before being attacked."
More on the 'backstory':
"No Garda investigation is ongoing in relation to any attempted child abduction on Sunday."
More on the 'backstory':
"Videos of the incident have been shared across social media. Some prominent members of the far-right, including British nationalist Tommy Robinson, have posted the video."
More on the 'backstory':
"Sources have said the O'Connell Street attack was borne out of 'nothing' and that the growing number of these incidents is something which is concerning officers."
I for one am surprised that the guy with the blue knuckleduster and the harpie screaming 'KILL HIM' didn't turn out to just be concerned bypassers.
Imagine the ordeal that poor man went through, being beaten by that mob and being falsely accused of attempted abduction of a child. If you watched that and your first thought was about some possible imaginary 'backstory' to attempt to excuse that shower of shite you should be ashamed of yourself.
Absolute scum of the Earth.
Quote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 18, 2024, 10:18:11 PMhttps://extra.ie/2024/06/18/news/irish-news/concern-migrant-attacks
Here is the 'backstory':
"Gardaí have 'growing concerns' over the number of assaults carried out on migrants, with many of the new arrivals falsely accused of targeting children before being attacked."
More on the 'backstory':
"No Garda investigation is ongoing in relation to any attempted child abduction on Sunday."
More on the 'backstory':
"Videos of the incident have been shared across social media. Some prominent members of the far-right, including British nationalist Tommy Robinson, have posted the video."
More on the 'backstory':
"Sources have said the O'Connell Street attack was borne out of 'nothing' and that the growing number of these incidents is something which is concerning officers."
I for one am surprised that the guy with the blue knuckleduster and the harpie screaming 'KILL HIM' didn't turn out to just be concerned bypassers.
Imagine the ordeal that poor man went through, being beaten by that mob and being falsely accused of attempted abduction of a child. If you watched that and your first thought was about some possible imaginary 'backstory' to attempt to excuse that shower of shite you should be ashamed of yourself.
You won't get any shame from our resident racists.
Quote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 18, 2024, 10:18:11 PMhttps://extra.ie/2024/06/18/news/irish-news/concern-migrant-attacks
Here is the 'backstory':
"Gardaí have 'growing concerns' over the number of assaults carried out on migrants, with many of the new arrivals falsely accused of targeting children before being attacked."
More on the 'backstory':
"No Garda investigation is ongoing in relation to any attempted child abduction on Sunday."
More on the 'backstory':
"Videos of the incident have been shared across social media. Some prominent members of the far-right, including British nationalist Tommy Robinson, have posted the video."
More on the 'backstory':
"Sources have said the O'Connell Street attack was borne out of 'nothing' and that the growing number of these incidents is something which is concerning officers."
I for one am surprised that the guy with the blue knuckleduster and the harpie screaming 'KILL HIM' didn't turn out to just be concerned bypassers.
Imagine the ordeal that poor man went through, being beaten by that mob and being falsely accused of attempted abduction of a child. If you watched that and your first thought was about some possible imaginary 'backstory' to attempt to excuse that shower of shite you should be ashamed of yourself.
Grim reading. Mad to think you'd use something like an attempted child abduction to justify that.
Quote from: Itchy on June 18, 2024, 11:27:59 PMQuote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 18, 2024, 10:18:11 PMhttps://extra.ie/2024/06/18/news/irish-news/concern-migrant-attacks
Here is the 'backstory':
"Gardaí have 'growing concerns' over the number of assaults carried out on migrants, with many of the new arrivals falsely accused of targeting children before being attacked."
More on the 'backstory':
"No Garda investigation is ongoing in relation to any attempted child abduction on Sunday."
More on the 'backstory':
"Videos of the incident have been shared across social media. Some prominent members of the far-right, including British nationalist Tommy Robinson, have posted the video."
More on the 'backstory':
"Sources have said the O'Connell Street attack was borne out of 'nothing' and that the growing number of these incidents is something which is concerning officers."
I for one am surprised that the guy with the blue knuckleduster and the harpie screaming 'KILL HIM' didn't turn out to just be concerned bypassers.
Imagine the ordeal that poor man went through, being beaten by that mob and being falsely accused of attempted abduction of a child. If you watched that and your first thought was about some possible imaginary 'backstory' to attempt to excuse that shower of shite you should be ashamed of yourself.
You won't get any shame from our resident racists.
I don't know how anyone can watch the distress that poor man was in and not feel anything but sympathy for him. Hatred must burn a dark hole in some people's hearts.
Not when they are stealing your homes jobs wives your bru and line at the local surgery ::)
Quote from: Itchy on June 18, 2024, 11:27:59 PMQuote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 18, 2024, 10:18:11 PMhttps://extra.ie/2024/06/18/news/irish-news/concern-migrant-attacks
Here is the 'backstory':
"Gardaí have 'growing concerns' over the number of assaults carried out on migrants, with many of the new arrivals falsely accused of targeting children before being attacked."
More on the 'backstory':
"No Garda investigation is ongoing in relation to any attempted child abduction on Sunday."
More on the 'backstory':
"Videos of the incident have been shared across social media. Some prominent members of the far-right, including British nationalist Tommy Robinson, have posted the video."
More on the 'backstory':
"Sources have said the O'Connell Street attack was borne out of 'nothing' and that the growing number of these incidents is something which is concerning officers."
I for one am surprised that the guy with the blue knuckleduster and the harpie screaming 'KILL HIM' didn't turn out to just be concerned bypassers.
Imagine the ordeal that poor man went through, being beaten by that mob and being falsely accused of attempted abduction of a child. If you watched that and your first thought was about some possible imaginary 'backstory' to attempt to excuse that shower of shite you should be ashamed of yourself.
You won't get any shame from our resident racists.
So because I simply want immigration law enforced you're implying I'm a racist who condones what happened that poor guy
Well Mary Loo (after the drubbing SF received last week) essentially said that she has the same position as me-she advocates for a "fair, efficient and ENFORCED immigration system."
I suppose she's also a racist
Quote from: whitey on June 19, 2024, 12:43:18 AMQuote from: Itchy on June 18, 2024, 11:27:59 PMQuote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 18, 2024, 10:18:11 PMhttps://extra.ie/2024/06/18/news/irish-news/concern-migrant-attacks
Here is the 'backstory':
"Gardaí have 'growing concerns' over the number of assaults carried out on migrants, with many of the new arrivals falsely accused of targeting children before being attacked."
More on the 'backstory':
"No Garda investigation is ongoing in relation to any attempted child abduction on Sunday."
More on the 'backstory':
"Videos of the incident have been shared across social media. Some prominent members of the far-right, including British nationalist Tommy Robinson, have posted the video."
More on the 'backstory':
"Sources have said the O'Connell Street attack was borne out of 'nothing' and that the growing number of these incidents is something which is concerning officers."
I for one am surprised that the guy with the blue knuckleduster and the harpie screaming 'KILL HIM' didn't turn out to just be concerned bypassers.
Imagine the ordeal that poor man went through, being beaten by that mob and being falsely accused of attempted abduction of a child. If you watched that and your first thought was about some possible imaginary 'backstory' to attempt to excuse that shower of shite you should be ashamed of yourself.
You won't get any shame from our resident racists.
So because I simply want immigration law enforced you're implying I'm a racist who condones what happened that poor guy
Well Mary Loo (after the drubbing SF received last week) essentially said that she has the same position as me-she advocates for a "fair, efficient and ENFORCED immigration system."
I suppose she's also a racist
All the evidence of all your posts on here shows what you really want, no black faces about the place. That is not the position of Sinn Fein or Mary Lou McDonald. You are a mindless racist and everyone here can see that.
Control yourself, Itchy. You clearly haven't been reading his posts.
Quote from: burdizzo on June 19, 2024, 08:30:17 AMControl yourself, Itchy. You clearly haven't been reading his posts.
Hey Burdizzo, turns out the guy with the blue knuckleduster wasn't from the local neighbourhood watch. Who could have guessed?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2024, 11:37:13 PMNot when they are stealing your homes jobs wives your bru and line at the local surgery ::)
Wives
Jobs
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Quote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AMQuote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.
Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.
Quote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 19, 2024, 08:43:55 AMQuote from: burdizzo on June 19, 2024, 08:30:17 AMControl yourself, Itchy. You clearly haven't been reading his posts.
Hey Burdizzo, turns out the guy with the blue knuckleduster wasn't from the local neighbourhood watch. Who could have guessed?
Burdizzo is also a racist, even more vile than the other guy. I have him blocked so I only see what he writes when he is quoted.
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 19, 2024, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AMQuote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.
Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.
Yes or no question.
Do people have a right to protest against an IPAs center in their town ?
(No planning permission required, no consultation sought, no additional resources allocated to the town such as Gardai or health care professionals......oh and by the way the protesters are also paying for the housing, feeding, transportation and healthcare of all these new arrivals)
all the while the government is failing to enforce its own immigration laws and also isnt deporting people who've exhausted all legal options
Quote from: whitey on June 19, 2024, 11:45:02 AMQuote from: Harold Disgracey on June 19, 2024, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AMQuote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.
Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.
Yes or no question.
Do people have a right to protest against an IPAs center in their town ?
(No planning permission required, no consultation sought, no additional resources allocated to the town such as Gardai or health care professionals......oh and by the way the protesters are also paying for the housing, feeding, transportation and healthcare of all these new arrivals)
all the while the government is failing to enforce its own immigration laws and also isnt deporting people who've exhausted all legal options
Only paying for it if they are actually working and paying taxes ;)
That'll be not paying for it then.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 19, 2024, 12:30:00 PMThat'll be not paying for it then.
Indeed most of them never worked a day in their lives and the ones I know never did a thing in a voluntary capacity in the community. They are a waste of Oxygen.
Quote from: Itchy on June 19, 2024, 01:38:07 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 19, 2024, 12:30:00 PMThat'll be not paying for it then.
Indeed most of them never worked a day in their lives and the ones I know never did a thing in a voluntary capacity in the community. They are a waste of Oxygen.
Wow
This is absolutely shocking
Because SOME of the people protesting are working class there's an attempt to paintball protesters as lazy layabouts.
You guys need to all take a serious look in the mirror
I have never seen such smug, self congratulatory elitism on this board.
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 19, 2024, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AMQuote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.
Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.
exactly. Yer man trying to draw parallels between the 2 is ridiculous
Quote from: whitey on June 19, 2024, 02:02:45 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 19, 2024, 01:38:07 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 19, 2024, 12:30:00 PMThat'll be not paying for it then.
Indeed most of them never worked a day in their lives and the ones I know never did a thing in a voluntary capacity in the community. They are a waste of Oxygen.
Wow
This is absolutely shocking
Because SOME of the people protesting are working class there's an attempt to paintball protesters as lazy layabouts.
You guys need to all take a serious look in the mirror
I have never seen such smug, self congratulatory elitism on this board.
Working class and life time dolers are completely different, even a daft yank is capable of understanding that? ;)
Quote from: Itchy on June 19, 2024, 01:38:07 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 19, 2024, 12:30:00 PMThat'll be not paying for it then.
Indeed most of them never worked a day in their lives and the ones I know never did a thing in a voluntary capacity in the community. They are a waste of Oxygen.
Funny, because not so long ago that was Sinn Fein's base - so you'd know plenty of them!
Working Class, the clue is in the name. From someone who grew up in the rural working class where my parents both emigrated to find work before coming home.
Useless layabouts who won't work despite jobs being plentiful are not "working" class.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 02:13:08 PMQuote from: Harold Disgracey on June 19, 2024, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AMQuote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.
Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.
exactly. Yer man trying to draw parallels between the 2 is ridiculous
A lot of people have said this, but no one has given a good reason WHY it's not the same! A load of spoofers.
Quote from: burdizzo on June 19, 2024, 02:24:32 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 02:13:08 PMQuote from: Harold Disgracey on June 19, 2024, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AMQuote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.
Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.
exactly. Yer man trying to draw parallels between the 2 is ridiculous
A lot of people have said this, but no one has given a good reason WHY it's not the same! A load of spoofers.
if you say so kiddo
Quote from: Itchy on June 19, 2024, 02:21:44 PMWorking Class, the clue is in the name. From someone who grew up in the rural working class where my parents both emigrated to find work before coming home.
Useless layabouts who won't work despite jobs being plentiful are not "working" class.
True and the distinction isn't made half enough!
This p**** got off lightly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0620/1455752-soldier-assault/
what a disgraceful decision from Judge Tom o Donnell.He should hang his head in shame and resign with immediate effect.I certainly fo not want a scummy shitbucket like Crotty, parading around, claiming to be a custodian of the people.I don't entertain this shite about him owning up-he was caught on fukn CCTV!.Cowardly bastard.
Why many women don't report assaults by men. And that maggot from the Irish Army giving him a character reference
Shocking. You'd wonder what's the point going to court, your aswell to deal with scum like this yourself. Be more punishment for not paying a parking ticket.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 04:13:44 PMThis p**** got off lightly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0620/1455752-soldier-assault/
We have Soldiers now in the
Far Right?
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 19, 2024, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AMQuote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.
Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.
False equivalence my ar$e
I don't think I've ever seen a more clear cut comparison.
A group of residents are having a situation forced upon them against their will, that is seriously impacting their community. This situation was forced upon them without consultation, negotiation or compromise and a threat of violence from the state for non compliance-exactly the same as what happened to you
In fact, I would argue that people protesting IPAs centers have it worse than you had it. You had to deal with the situation for one day a year. They may have to deal with it for years to come.....and have to pay for it to add insult to injury
Quote from: whitey on June 20, 2024, 10:41:20 PMQuote from: Harold Disgracey on June 19, 2024, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AMQuote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.
Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.
False equivalence my ar$e
I don't think I've ever seen a more clear cut comparison.
A group of residents are having a situation forced upon them against their will, that is seriously impacting their community. This situation was forced upon them without consultation, negotiation or compromise and a threat of violence from the state for non compliance-exactly the same as what happened to you
In fact, I would argue that people protesting IPAs centers have it worse than you had it. You had to deal with the situation for one day a year. They may have to deal with it for years to come.....and have to pay for it to add insult to injury
The level of ignorance right there 😆
Yeah, but ye still can't argue against it.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 20, 2024, 10:13:12 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 04:13:44 PMThis p**** got off lightly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0620/1455752-soldier-assault/
We have Soldiers now in the Far Right?
Yeah, not exactly on-topic. Idiotic.
That effin Yank.
Comparing the "Nationalist nightmare" to a mini minority of fascist racist xenophobes who dont want black or Muslim people being put up in various premises that are nothing to do vlwith them and don't impact on them.
Quote from: burdizzo on June 20, 2024, 11:26:12 PMYeah, but ye still can't argue against it.
Quote from: burdizzo on June 20, 2024, 11:28:04 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 20, 2024, 10:13:12 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 04:13:44 PMThis p**** got off lightly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0620/1455752-soldier-assault/
We have Soldiers now in the Far Right?
Yeah, not exactly on-topic. Idiotic.
Can't be calling out our sc**bag soldier who kicked a woman unconscious on the street and remains in the army.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 11:35:11 PMThat effin Yank.
Comparing the "Nationalist nightmare" to a mini minority of fascist racist xenophobes who dont want black or Muslim people being put up in various premises that are nothing to do vlwith them and don't impact on them.
Well the "mini minortiy" sure stuck it to the shinners in the recent election-LOL
Quote from: whitey on June 20, 2024, 11:48:10 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 11:35:11 PMThat effin Yank.
Comparing the "Nationalist nightmare" to a mini minority of fascist racist xenophobes who dont want black or Muslim people being put up in various premises that are nothing to do vlwith them and don't impact on them.
Well the "mini minortiy" sure stuck it to the shinners in the recent election-LOL
Quite an obsession with SF.. you assume everyone who calls out these racist scumbags are 'Shinners'... I don't think so...
Quote from: whitey on June 20, 2024, 10:41:20 PMQuote from: Harold Disgracey on June 19, 2024, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AMQuote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto
Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?
If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.
Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.
False equivalence my ar$e
I don't think I've ever seen a more clear cut comparison.
A group of residents are having a situation forced upon them against their will, that is seriously impacting their community. This situation was forced upon them without consultation, negotiation or compromise and a threat of violence from the state for non compliance-exactly the same as what happened to you
In fact, I would argue that people protesting IPAs centers have it worse than you had it. You had to deal with the situation for one day a year. They may have to deal with it for years to come.....and have to pay for it to add insult to injury
probably best you dont post anymore about this. Gobshite
Quote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 04:13:44 PMThis p**** got off lightly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0620/1455752-soldier-assault/
Just wondering why this was posted in here?
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 21, 2024, 04:11:08 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 04:13:44 PMThis p**** got off lightly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0620/1455752-soldier-assault/
Just wondering why this was posted in here?
Maybe its posted here is that the young lady that was assaulted had initially intervened in an incident where the sc**bag excuse for a soldier was verbally abusing some non-nationals-which would be associated with the actions of members of the far right?
Quote from: sans pessimism on June 21, 2024, 04:25:10 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 21, 2024, 04:11:08 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 04:13:44 PMThis p**** got off lightly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0620/1455752-soldier-assault/
Just wondering why this was posted in here?
Maybe its posted here is that the young lady that was assaulted had initially intervened in an incident where the sc**bag excuse for a soldier was verbally abusing some non-nationals-which would be associated with the actions of members of the far right?
Jesus, you people are clutching at straws. Yes, this boy is a complete tool, but to try and say he's somehow 'right-wing' is just pathetic. As per the article, he was "shouting homophobic abuse at other people in the street", before setting into the woman, who had asked him to stop. I saw no mention of non-nationals. Complete dishonesty, as to be expected.
Can he not just be a sc**bag without being left or right wing?
Quote from: burdizzo on June 21, 2024, 04:43:33 PMQuote from: sans pessimism on June 21, 2024, 04:25:10 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 21, 2024, 04:11:08 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 04:13:44 PMThis p**** got off lightly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0620/1455752-soldier-assault/
Just wondering why this was posted in here?
Maybe its posted here is that the young lady that was assaulted had initially intervened in an incident where the sc**bag excuse for a soldier was verbally abusing some non-nationals-which would be associated with the actions of members of the far right?
Jesus, you people are clutching at straws. Yes, this boy is a complete tool, but to try and say he's somehow 'right-wing' is just pathetic. As per the article, he was "shouting homophobic abuse at other people in the street", before setting into the woman, who had asked him to stop. I saw no mention of non-nationals. Complete dishonesty, as to be expected.
my bad-merely trying to give a reason why the comment may have ended up on this thread."as to be expected".....good ladeen
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2024, 04:52:24 PMCan he not just be a sc**bag without being left or right wing?
No. Everything must be politicised all of the time.
Quote from: sans pessimism on June 21, 2024, 05:42:57 PMQuote from: burdizzo on June 21, 2024, 04:43:33 PMQuote from: sans pessimism on June 21, 2024, 04:25:10 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 21, 2024, 04:11:08 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 04:13:44 PMThis p**** got off lightly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0620/1455752-soldier-assault/
Just wondering why this was posted in here?
Maybe its posted here is that the young lady that was assaulted had initially intervened in an incident where the sc**bag excuse for a soldier was verbally abusing some non-nationals-which would be associated with the actions of members of the far right?
Jesus, you people are clutching at straws. Yes, this boy is a complete tool, but to try and say he's somehow 'right-wing' is just pathetic. As per the article, he was "shouting homophobic abuse at other people in the street", before setting into the woman, who had asked him to stop. I saw no mention of non-nationals. Complete dishonesty, as to be expected.
my bad-merely trying to give a reason why the comment may have ended up on this thread."as to be expected".....good ladeen
Fair enough. Probably one for the wtf thread tbh
Homophobia is very much a discourse of the right wing.
Some drunken yob slurs a homophobic slur, and he's suddenly right wing? Yeah, you lot really are clutching at straws.
Anyway, a lot of our new neighbours ain't too taken with gays, either. Some of them even go on gay-killing sprees. But, hey, that's OK, it's 'diversity'.
Losers need to find some other straw to clutch at.
Quote from: burdizzo on June 21, 2024, 10:24:27 PMSome drunken yob slurs a homophobic slur, and he's suddenly right wing? Yeah, you lot really are clutching at straws.
Anyway, a lot of our new neighbours ain't too taken with gays, either. Some of them even go on gay-killing sprees. But, hey, that's OK, it's 'diversity'.
Losers need to find some other straw to clutch at.
Which of your new neighbours have gone on gay killing sprees?
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 21, 2024, 10:32:19 PMQuote from: burdizzo on June 21, 2024, 10:24:27 PMSome drunken yob slurs a homophobic slur, and he's suddenly right wing? Yeah, you lot really are clutching at straws.
Anyway, a lot of our new neighbours ain't too taken with gays, either. Some of them even go on gay-killing sprees. But, hey, that's OK, it's 'diversity'.
Losers need to find some other straw to clutch at.
Which of your new neighbours have gone on gay killing sprees?
He's referring to a man in Sligo who was brought up in Ireland as a young child and who. As an adult, committed horrible psychotic attacks on gay people. Clearly his parents should have been refused entrance to the country for the crimes their unborn son would commit in the future. Plus they were Arab and Muslim so definitely should be kept out. The man in question is also gay but had some sort of massive psychotic rebellion against his own sexuality. Thankfully things like this never happen with white Irish thoroughbreds.
"There was no sex in Ireland before RTÉ was established".- Oliver J Flanagan (who also said no Jews should be let into the country during WW2)
"There was no crime in Ireland before the Government started letting foreigners into the country".- every nazifascist
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 21, 2024, 10:32:19 PMQuote from: burdizzo on June 21, 2024, 10:24:27 PMSome drunken yob slurs a homophobic slur, and he's suddenly right wing? Yeah, you lot really are clutching at straws.
Anyway, a lot of our new neighbours ain't too taken with gays, either. Some of them even go on gay-killing sprees. But, hey, that's OK, it's 'diversity'.
Losers need to find some other straw to clutch at.
Which of your new neighbours have gone on gay killing sprees?
He was certainly a right wing fundamentalist
Quote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2024, 11:15:18 PM"There was no sex in Ireland before RTÉ was established".- Oliver J Flanagan (who also said no Jews should be let into the country during WW2)
"There was no crime in Ireland before the Government started letting foreigners into the country".- every nazifascist
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Who exactly claimed that?
Quote from: whitey on June 22, 2024, 12:42:51 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2024, 11:15:18 PM"There was no sex in Ireland before RTÉ was established".- Oliver J Flanagan (who also said no Jews should be let into the country during WW2)
"There was no crime in Ireland before the Government started letting foreigners into the country".- every nazifascist
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Who exactly claimed that?
It is the inference from the facists.
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 22, 2024, 12:18:22 PMQuote from: whitey on June 22, 2024, 12:42:51 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2024, 11:15:18 PM"There was no sex in Ireland before RTÉ was established".- Oliver J Flanagan (who also said no Jews should be let into the country during WW2)
"There was no crime in Ireland before the Government started letting foreigners into the country".- every nazifascist
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Who exactly claimed that?
It is the inference from the facists.
So following that logic I can infer that people on the left are in favor of open borders
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 21, 2024, 06:03:24 PMHomophobia is very much a discourse of the right wing.
So it is ok to post a random attack with a Homophobia background and label it as Far Right.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 22, 2024, 01:25:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 21, 2024, 06:03:24 PMHomophobia is very much a discourse of the right wing.
So it is ok to post a random attack with a Homophobia background and label it as Far Right.
I'd be surprised if assailant held left wing views to migrants. These bigots hate minorities and everyone outside their village...
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 22, 2024, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 22, 2024, 01:25:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 21, 2024, 06:03:24 PMHomophobia is very much a discourse of the right wing.
So it is ok to post a random attack with a Homophobia background and label it as Far Right.
I'd be surprised if assailant held left wing views to migrants. These bigots hate minorities and everyone outside their village...
Jez, talk about tarring everyone dodgy with the same far right brush.
I notice Rossfan who posted the link has stayed quiet on all this.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 22, 2024, 03:07:20 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 22, 2024, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 22, 2024, 01:25:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 21, 2024, 06:03:24 PMHomophobia is very much a discourse of the right wing.
So it is ok to post a random attack with a Homophobia background and label it as Far Right.
I'd be surprised if assailant held left wing views to migrants. These bigots hate minorities and everyone outside their village...
Jez, talk about tarring everyone dodgy with the same far right brush.
I notice Rossfan who posted the link has stayed quiet on all this.
I'm sure he's very sorry for branding this poor hate filled, homophobic, woman beating thug as Far right. He is probably going to need therapy for the slight on his
good name.
I had more important things on my mind last few days.
I couldn't find a more appropriate thread to stick it in and as yer man ticked many of the nazifascist boxes seemed a good spot for it.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 23, 2024, 10:36:05 AMI had more important things on my mind last few days.
I couldn't find a more appropriate thread to stick it in and as yer man ticked many of the nazifascist boxes seemed a good spot for it.
Well it was a poor decision. It was a lazy categorising of a crime. He may have been Homophobic, drunk and have a violent streak. There was no indication of Far Right beliefs. Jez, there's a plethora of people who'd be like that you'd have not a notion of being far right.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 23, 2024, 12:01:23 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 23, 2024, 10:36:05 AMI had more important things on my mind last few days.
I couldn't find a more appropriate thread to stick it in and as yer man ticked many of the nazifascist boxes seemed a good spot for it.
Well it was a poor decision. It was a lazy categorising of a crime. He may have been Homophobic, drunk and have a violent streak. There was no indication of Far Right beliefs. Jez, there's a plethora of people who'd be like that you'd have not a notion of being far right.
You wouldnt have far to research the far right's attitude to minority groups... homophobia included. I doubt those far right thugs on our streets would have much tolerance for the gay community. Try harder.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/why-far-right-groups-are-increasingly-targeting-the-lgbtq-community
Nazifascists despise
Black and brown skinned people,
Foreigners
LGBT etc
Women.
And believe all those are inferior and need to be put in their place.
A good thumping is their favourite means of doing that to women especially.
Not a clue do you have. In fact, many people you would consider - by your extremely broad definition - "far-right", are in fact gay themselves. I suppose your simplistic world-view can't really cope with it, but it would be wise for gays to oppose the illiberal position of Islam on homosexuality - the more of a foothold Islam gains, the more you will see that they try to limit such as 'gay sex education' in schools. Thus, you have the likes of Pym Fortuyn, Alice Weidel, Sebastien Chenu, and Douglas Murray. Are these 'nazifascists'? Either way, you'll look foolish.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 23, 2024, 12:29:45 PMNazifascists despise
Black and brown skinned people,
Foreigners
LGBT etc
Women.
And believe all those are inferior and need to be put in their place.
A good thumping is their favourite means of doing that to women especially.
::)
Unknown to yourself, You are the reason legitimate people with legitimate concerns get thrown into stereotype categories. This example is at a low level, but when you start categorising thugs with no connection you set the ball rolling.
Thought it was the left that hate women as none of them can define what a woman is?
Quote from: clarshack on June 23, 2024, 04:28:36 PMThought it was the left that hate women as none of them can define what a woman is?
Sometimes it's hard to be a woman...
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 23, 2024, 04:50:49 PMQuote from: clarshack on June 23, 2024, 04:28:36 PMThought it was the left that hate women as none of them can define what a woman is?
Sometimes it's hard to be a woman...
Seems to be.
Also there's loads of LGB that don't like what comes after the B. Are they the Far Right LGB?
Quote from: clarshack on June 23, 2024, 05:18:50 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 23, 2024, 04:50:49 PMQuote from: clarshack on June 23, 2024, 04:28:36 PMThought it was the left that hate women as none of them can define what a woman is?
Sometimes it's hard to be a woman...
Seems to be.
Also there's loads of LGB that don't like what comes after the B. Are they the Far Right LGB?
I'm not sure. Ask them. Don't think you'll find them on the streets beating the Ts and burning them out of their buildings... we're going to the other right side there
Quote from: clarshack on June 23, 2024, 05:18:50 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 23, 2024, 04:50:49 PMQuote from: clarshack on June 23, 2024, 04:28:36 PMThought it was the left that hate women as none of them can define what a woman is?
Sometimes it's hard to be a woman...
Seems to be.
Also there's loads of LGB that don't like what comes after the B. Are they the Far Right LGB?
theres a lot of LG that dont like wat comes after the G. What exactly is your point?
Quote from: Rossfan on June 23, 2024, 12:29:45 PMNazifascists despise
Black and brown skinned people,
Foreigners
LGBT etc
Women.
And believe all those are inferior and need to be put in their place.
A good thumping is their favourite means of doing that to women especially.
Will you be issuing an apology to this Soldier Rossfan, I fear you have gone too far calling him Far Right. Is mother would be horrified by this false classification.
Maybe I could give him €3,000 the poor put upon lad.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 24, 2024, 10:16:42 AMMaybe I could give him €3,000 the poor put upon lad.
Its only right. You should also consider a donation to some of the far right groups. You insinuated that beating women is something Far Right groups are in favour of. Thats not true. They are only in favour of beating Gay women, black women, Asian women and muslim women and just the odd white women (its ok if it is a spouse).
Quote from: Itchy on June 24, 2024, 01:38:54 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 24, 2024, 10:16:42 AMMaybe I could give him €3,000 the poor put upon lad.
Its only right. You should also consider a donation to some of the far right groups. You insinuated that beating women is something Far Right groups are in favour of. Thats not true. They are only in favour of beating Gay women, black women, Asian women and muslim women and just the odd white women (its ok if it is a spouse).
Whereas your crowd ACTUALLY beat, bombed, shot, and maimed men, women, and children of all races and religions. Hypocrite.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 24, 2024, 10:16:42 AMMaybe I could give him €3,000 the poor put upon lad.
The issue debated is not the Crime. We all know the crime was terrible. We all know the individual is not a nice person. And the Punishment did not fit the severity of the crime,
You see the issue is you Categorised this crime as Far Right, with little or no evidence to show that the crime was done by a Far Right activist!
Mindset is nazifascist.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 24, 2024, 05:55:32 PMMindset is nazifascist.
Nazi....as in National Socialist?
Quote from: whitey on June 24, 2024, 06:00:41 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 24, 2024, 05:55:32 PMMindset is nazifascist.
Nazi....as in National Socialist?
I'm sure you think you have a point here
Irish nazifascist parties' Brit mate Steven Yaxley Lennon (aka Tomny Robinson) arrested in Canada for suspected immigration offence.
The irony ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2024, 10:21:22 AMIrish nazifascist parties' Brit mate Steven Yaxley Lennon (aka Tomny Robinson) arrested in Canada for suspected immigration offence.
The irony ;D
Excellent... the fascists here cozying up to a supporter of the Brits, Soldier X, that came into our country and ran amok murdering 13 people on Bloody Sunday in Derry.
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 25, 2024, 10:27:25 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2024, 10:21:22 AMIrish nazifascist parties' Brit mate Steven Yaxley Lennon (aka Tomny Robinson) arrested in Canada for suspected immigration offence.
The irony ;D
Excellent... the fascists here copying up to a supporter of the Brits, Soldier X, that came into our country and ran amok murdering 13 people on Bloody Sunday in Derry.
but he was white so it was ok.The same way it is ok when irish men murder irish women
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 25, 2024, 01:24:47 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 25, 2024, 01:20:02 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 25, 2024, 10:27:25 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2024, 10:21:22 AMIrish nazifascist parties' Brit mate Steven Yaxley Lennon (aka Tomny Robinson) arrested in Canada for suspected immigration offence.
The irony ;D
Excellent... the fascists here copying up to a supporter of the Brits, Soldier X, that came into our country and ran amok murdering 13 people on Bloody Sunday in Derry.
but he was white so it was ok.The same way it is ok when irish men murder irish women
Absolutely no idea what you're saying. Who said it is OK because he was white or ok for Irish men to murder Irish women? Wtf! or any man to murder any woman.. wat the fuc are you on about?!
Ah lad, he is being sarcastic there
Quote from: Itchy on June 25, 2024, 01:51:15 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 25, 2024, 01:24:47 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 25, 2024, 01:20:02 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 25, 2024, 10:27:25 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2024, 10:21:22 AMIrish nazifascist parties' Brit mate Steven Yaxley Lennon (aka Tomny Robinson) arrested in Canada for suspected immigration offence.
The irony ;D
Excellent... the fascists here copying up to a supporter of the Brits, Soldier X, that came into our country and ran amok murdering 13 people on Bloody Sunday in Derry.
but he was white so it was ok.The same way it is ok when irish men murder irish women
Absolutely no idea what you're saying. Who said it is OK because he was white or ok for Irish men to murder Irish women? Wtf! or any man to murder any woman.. wat the fuc are you on about?!
Ah lad, he is being sarcastic there
Jees! Sorry. OK
Ha ha! An orgy of idiocy!
Quote from: burdizzo on June 25, 2024, 02:14:08 PMHa ha! An orgy of idiocy!
Sarcasm, double spake hard to know wats being said.. orgy though? :o
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 25, 2024, 02:35:10 PMQuote from: burdizzo on June 25, 2024, 02:14:08 PMHa ha! An orgy of idiocy!
Sarcasm, double spake hard to know wats being said.. orgy though? :o
Yeah. Ye lads should get a room, as they say!
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 25, 2024, 02:35:10 PMQuote from: burdizzo on June 25, 2024, 02:14:08 PMHa ha! An orgy of idiocy!
Sarcasm, double spake hard to know wats being said.. orgy though? :o
There's always a sex angle with the far right. Obsessing with rapes is common so when one of them is going on about an orgy, well its not surprising.
The world is not black and white, people think as an Irish nationalist you must be a left wing radical liberal. In fact I think Sinn Fein play up their liberal agenda just to annoy the unionists, not because they actually deeply care about it. It is part of the reason why I have trouble with voting, do I vote for a nationalist party even though they are liberal radicals? It seems I can't support Irish nationalism without having to support radical liberalism.
I am nationalist simply because I don't want a union with GB, I still slant to the right in many issues.
Imported American politics have made it this divided and the folk making money off it are shouting the loudest against their opposition.
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on June 26, 2024, 11:21:49 PMThe world is not black and white, people think as an Irish nationalist you must be a left wing radical liberal. In fact I think Sinn Fein play up their liberal agenda just to annoy the unionists, not because they actually deeply care about it. It is part of the reason why I have trouble with voting, do I vote for a nationalist party even though they are liberal radicals? It seems I can't support Irish nationalism without having to support radical liberalism.
I am nationalist simply because I don't want a union with GB, I still slant to the right in many issues.
Fascinating.
Well I heard FF were moving North so you could vote for them.
Now what has your post got to do with the far right?
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2024, 11:37:25 PMQuote from: Norm-Peterson on June 26, 2024, 11:21:49 PMThe world is not black and white, people think as an Irish nationalist you must be a left wing radical liberal. In fact I think Sinn Fein play up their liberal agenda just to annoy the unionists, not because they actually deeply care about it. It is part of the reason why I have trouble with voting, do I vote for a nationalist party even though they are liberal radicals? It seems I can't support Irish nationalism without having to support radical liberalism.
I am nationalist simply because I don't want a union with GB, I still slant to the right in many issues.
Fascinating.
Well I heard FF were moving North so you could vote for them.
Now what has your post got to do with the far right?
Fianna Fail aren't really that conservative, just an attempt at a broad catch-all party. Someone said on the "Westminster" thread that the Tories don't stand for anything; well, the same can be said for FF. It's socially liberal, and has seemingly rejected nationalism.
A lot of the SF policy-makers do actually buy into the Marxist nonsense. I knew one of them once, and he was saying how his political background was as an anarchist. I suppose it ties in well with the anti-imperialist slant.
At least a couple of the right-thinking Irish nationalist parties tried to organise in the north. Not sure if they have candidates going forward - probably not.
Now that they've figured out very few vote for them it's back to normal thuggery
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0626/1456866-taoiseach-bomb-threat/
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2024, 08:11:49 AMNow that they've figured out very few vote for them it's back to normal thuggery
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0626/1456866-taoiseach-bomb-threat/
Disgraceful.
Politicians, or anyone who stands for election, do so for the benefit of the people.
People give out about them etc. but it's a tough gig, with little thanks really. The easy thing to do is criticise them - and some deserve it at times!
This has crept into society this past 10 years - people seem to do want they want an get away with it. Maybe that's part of the problem.
Wasn't it republican socialists who honed the art of bomb threats?
a new member
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https://x.com/i/status/1804466313709928799 (https://x.com/i/status/1804466313709928799)
Worth a view. A film made in 1943 that resonates very loudly today.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on June 28, 2024, 02:39:58 PMa new member
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Brits at it again. Stealing the likes of Cillian Murphy as British and giving us that p***k!
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on June 28, 2024, 02:39:58 PMa new member
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His real surname is Lennon.
No doubt he found a "grandparent" born in Irelabd.
Burdy and the Yank will be overjoyed.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on June 28, 2024, 02:39:58 PMa new member
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What a fraud.
So what? Anyone from anywhere in the world can get an Irish passport, no bother. Don't even have to have an Irish grandparent. It's meaningless.
Surely if your whole schtick is being British and keeping themmuns out it would be a bit of a deal to your followers no?
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on June 28, 2024, 10:56:34 PMSurely if your whole schtick is being British and keeping themmuns out it would be a bit of a deal to your followers no?
It wouldn't bother them. Far Right here has no bottom line wrapping themselves in tricolours to abuse people on the street while cozying up to that Robinson maggot who supported British Soldier X in the Bloody Sunday case.
It's still fair funny that the ultra Englishman has an Irish passport.
Did anyone see the video of the farmers chasing the migrants round the field in their pick up? Pretty disgusting.
Disclaimer: not sure if they are far right or just red neck.
Eh
Unless his passport is a forgery I do t know why you're all getting excited
Irish people are 100% legally entitled to live and work in Britain and have been since the foundation of the state over 100 years ago
People (well me anyway)have an issue with ILLEGAL emigration and FAKE asylum seekers
They don't have an issue LEGAL emigration and GENUINE asylum seekers
Quote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 01:08:51 PMEh
Unless his passport is a forgery I do t know why you're all getting excited
Irish people are 100% legally entitled to live and work in Britain and have been since the foundation of the state over 100 years ago
People (well me anyway)have an issue with ILLEGAL emigration and FAKE asylum seekers
They don't have an issue LEGAL emigration and GENUINE asylum seekers
Wouldn't expect you to get why a self proclaimed English patriot, who against foreigners is travelling around on a foreign passport. It's provably above your intelligence level.
Quote from: Itchy on June 29, 2024, 01:22:13 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 01:08:51 PMEh
Unless his passport is a forgery I do t know why you're all getting excited
Irish people are 100% legally entitled to live and work in Britain and have been since the foundation of the state over 100 years ago
People (well me anyway)have an issue with ILLEGAL emigration and FAKE asylum seekers
They don't have an issue LEGAL emigration and GENUINE asylum seekers
Wouldn't expect you to get why a self proclaimed English patriot, who against foreigners is travelling around on a foreign passport. It's provably above your intelligence level.
There are lots of reasons people have two passports....I have two.....and might be getting a third
I think you're missing the point....
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2024, 01:27:01 PMI think you're missing the point....
Actually I'm not and I see absolutely no contradiction in him using it
He's 100% entitled to have, and travel on that passport
Quote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 01:29:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2024, 01:27:01 PMI think you're missing the point....
Actually I'm not and I see absolutely no contradiction in him using it
He's 100% entitled to have, and travel on that passport
You are missing the point still God love you. No one said he wasn't "entitled" to have the passport, if he wasn't entitled he would have it you see. A bit like you being an immigrant and bring anti immigrant, it's a thing called hypocrisy that's the issue. To I need to write it in crayon for you?
Quote from: Itchy on June 29, 2024, 01:43:17 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 01:29:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2024, 01:27:01 PMI think you're missing the point....
Actually I'm not and I see absolutely no contradiction in him using it
He's 100% entitled to have, and travel on that passport
You are missing the point still God love you. No one said he wasn't "entitled" to have the passport, if he wasn't entitled he would have it you see. A bit like you being an immigrant and bring anti immigrant, it's a thing called hypocrisy that's the issue. To I need to write it in crayon for you?
But I'm not "anti immigrant"
I'm anti ILLEGAL immigrant
If you are not anti illegal immigrant, then you are pro open borders
Quote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 01:46:37 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 29, 2024, 01:43:17 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 01:29:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2024, 01:27:01 PMI think you're missing the point....
Actually I'm not and I see absolutely no contradiction in him using it
He's 100% entitled to have, and travel on that passport
You are missing the point still God love you. No one said he wasn't "entitled" to have the passport, if he wasn't entitled he would have it you see. A bit like you being an immigrant and bring anti immigrant, it's a thing called hypocrisy that's the issue. To I need to write it in crayon for you?
But I'm not "anti immigrant"
I'm anti ILLEGAL immigrant
If you are not anti illegal immigrant, then you are pro open borders
I'm curious to you tell all the illegal Irish in the US that you think they should be throw out of the country or do you make an exception for them.
Quote from: Itchy on June 29, 2024, 03:51:46 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 01:46:37 PMQuote from: Itchy on June 29, 2024, 01:43:17 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 01:29:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2024, 01:27:01 PMI think you're missing the point....
Actually I'm not and I see absolutely no contradiction in him using it
He's 100% entitled to have, and travel on that passport
You are missing the point still God love you. No one said he wasn't "entitled" to have the passport, if he wasn't entitled he would have it you see. A bit like you being an immigrant and bring anti immigrant, it's a thing called hypocrisy that's the issue. To I need to write it in crayon for you?
But I'm not "anti immigrant"
I'm anti ILLEGAL immigrant
If you are not anti illegal immigrant, then you are pro open borders
I'm curious to you tell all the illegal Irish in the US that you think they should be throw out of the country or do you make an exception for them.
Great response! There have been tens of thousands of illegal Irish in US. I was one for a few years. We are 'the undocumented'... Mexicans are 'The illegals'. A hierarchy of illegal immigrants.
LOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
Quote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PMLOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
So you're calling for illegal Irish in US be deported... and illegals here be deported?
Quote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PMLOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
You're a hypocrite and a racist. It's quite simple.
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 29, 2024, 04:37:37 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PMLOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
So you're calling for illegal Irish in US be deported... and illegals here be deported?
I would say if people are in a country illegally and are dependent upon welfare (or are engaged in criminal activity) they should be deported-yes 100%
Just regular illegals-I'd be inclined to leave them be-unless the numbers are so large it becomes untenable.....then kick them out (eg in the states illegals are counted in the census which impacts congressional representation, therefore my vote would be diluted by people who are in the country illegally)
Quote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 05:17:16 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 29, 2024, 04:37:37 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PMLOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
So you're calling for illegal Irish in US be deported... and illegals here be deported?
I would say if people are in a country illegally and are dependent upon welfare (or are engaged in criminal activity) they should be deported-yes 100%
Just regular illegals-I'd be inclined to leave them be-unless the numbers are so large it becomes untenable.....then kick them out (eg in the states illegals are counted in the census which impacts congressional representation, therefore my vote would be diluted by people who are in the country illegally)
Or if there are too many of them black or Muslim you'd have to kick them out too wouldn't you
Quote from: Itchy on June 29, 2024, 06:33:12 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 05:17:16 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 29, 2024, 04:37:37 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PMLOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
So you're calling for illegal Irish in US be deported... and illegals here be deported?
I would say if people are in a country illegally and are dependent upon welfare (or are engaged in criminal activity) they should be deported-yes 100%
Just regular illegals-I'd be inclined to leave them be-unless the numbers are so large it becomes untenable.....then kick them out (eg in the states illegals are counted in the census which impacts congressional representation, therefore my vote would be diluted by people who are in the country illegally)
Or if there are too many of them black or Muslim you'd have to kick them out too wouldn't you
Who said that?
I'd say Just enforce the law and let the new people assimilate
Quote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PMLOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
Does Ireland have an ICE? And if so what is their remit? In Belfast their remit is in country encounters so they don't operate at the border
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2024, 08:00:05 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PMLOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
Does Ireland have an ICE? And if so what is their remit? In Belfast their remit is in country encounters so they don't operate at the border
American pre clearance customs in Dublin. Presume that's what he means.
Of course the whole reason Robinson was lifted in Canada was saying he'd never had a criminal record - ironically one of those charges was trying to enter the US illegally under the passport of someone else.
Quote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 05:17:16 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 29, 2024, 04:37:37 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PMLOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
So you're calling for illegal Irish in US be deported... and illegals here be deported?
I would say if people are in a country illegally and are dependent upon welfare (or are engaged in criminal activity) they should be deported-yes 100%
Just regular illegals-I'd be inclined to leave them be-unless the numbers are so large it becomes untenable.....then kick them out (eg in the states illegals are counted in the census which impacts congressional representation, therefore my vote would be diluted by people who are in the country illegally)
I don't think that's a very tenable position. If your working on a factory line beside an illegal and you're both doing a good job and trying to get by, why should you be entitled to more workers rights than they do? Because at some previous point an official said it's okay for you to come in but not them? That entitles you to more protections than they have?
Either believe in deportations of illegals or don't. This semi-serfdom you envisage seems particularly unjust.
Quote from: trileacman on July 01, 2024, 05:32:54 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 05:17:16 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 29, 2024, 04:37:37 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PMLOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
So you're calling for illegal Irish in US be deported... and illegals here be deported?
I would say if people are in a country illegally and are dependent upon welfare (or are engaged in criminal activity) they should be deported-yes 100%
Just regular illegals-I'd be inclined to leave them be-unless the numbers are so large it becomes untenable.....then kick them out (eg in the states illegals are counted in the census which impacts congressional representation, therefore my vote would be diluted by people who are in the country illegally)
I don't think that's a very tenable position. If your working on a factory line beside an illegal and you're both doing a good job and trying to get by, why should you be entitled to more workers rights than they do? Because at some previous point an official said it's okay for you to come in but not them? That entitles you to more protections than they have?
Either believe in deportations of illegals or don't. This semi-serfdom you envisage seems particularly unjust.
Now what Whitey forgot to say is that you'd have to check 1st if the lad beside you was black or Muslim or maybe Mexican first. All illegals are not equal you see.
Quote from: trileacman on July 01, 2024, 05:32:54 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 05:17:16 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 29, 2024, 04:37:37 PMQuote from: whitey on June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PMLOL
"Great response"
I would say that ICE whether at Shannon or Dublin or any other point of entry should do their jobs and enforce the law....whether the person trying to enter is from Ireland or Outer Mongolia
I would follow up by saying that if any illegal Irish people in the US break the law, and or go through "the process" and are ordered to be deported.....that the law be followed and the orders of the courts be followed
So you're calling for illegal Irish in US be deported... and illegals here be deported?
I would say if people are in a country illegally and are dependent upon welfare (or are engaged in criminal activity) they should be deported-yes 100%
Just regular illegals-I'd be inclined to leave them be-unless the numbers are so large it becomes untenable.....then kick them out (eg in the states illegals are counted in the census which impacts congressional representation, therefore my vote would be diluted by people who are in the country illegally)
I don't think that's a very tenable position. If your working on a factory line beside an illegal and you're both doing a good job and trying to get by, why should you be entitled to more workers rights than they do? Because at some previous point an official said it's okay for you to come in but not them? That entitles you to more protections than they have?
Either believe in deportations of illegals or don't. This semi-serfdom you envisage seems particularly unjust.
I have absolutely no idea what mental gymnastics you performed to reach the conclusion that that's what I'm saying.
Must be sickening to some but to me it's what Ireland and the GAA is all about
https://x.com/LadiesFootball/status/1808219928266506727?t=1QH8-SddvEj7pIjN68PDOQ&s=19
Quote from: Itchy on July 02, 2024, 08:30:21 PMMust be sickening to some but to me it's what Irekand and the GAA is all about
https://x.com/LadiesFootball/status/1808219928266506727?t=1QH8-SddvEj7pIjN68PDOQ&s=19
Would/did bring a tear to the eye
Brilliant.
Meanwhile another extremist showing his IQ
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0702/1457779-leinster-house-usher/
Quote from: Rossfan on July 02, 2024, 09:18:34 PMMeanwhile another extremist showing his IQ
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0702/1457779-leinster-house-usher/
That's you, Rosspam. It's extremist to want endless immigration, and it's, um... - a sign of very high IQ to endlessly paste links rather than write something intelligent in your own words.
Anyway, it amuses me how our moral guardians on this board - who never miss a chance to preen their antifa credentials - didn't even notice the big win for the right-thinking French at the weekend. Over 33%, wasn't it? Europe is waking up, lads. We're a bit behind, but we'll get there.
Move to France then you idiot. I'm guessing you didn't do history at school assuming you went to school at all. BTW, your gang of racist fucks got wiped out in our local elections - sorry
Quote from: Itchy on July 02, 2024, 10:49:13 PMMove to France then you idiot. I'm guessing you didn't do history at school assuming you went to school at all. BTW, your gang of racist fucks got wiped out in our local elections - sorry
Oh, I thought you'd blocked me?!
I wouldn't move to France - very unsafe over there with all the immigrant gangs, and what have you. You know, it's not for no reason they've started to wake up.
National Party, Irish Freedom Party, and a few right-thinking independents won seats. That's good. Not wiped out at all. A small start but, as I say, we'll catch up with Europe eventually.
Yes, I did quite well in history, actually. One of my favourite subjects. That's how I know what's what! You still stuck in the '60s time-warp?
What is the end game Buzz?
Every country to take back its 'own'? would any immigrant be ok or just go back to the early Middle Ages?
I'm struggling to see how you're disadvantaged or how your life would be much better depending on who's living next door?
Did you lose your job to someone from another country?
We all need to go back to the garden of Eden.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2024, 11:58:24 PMWhat is the end game Buzz?
Every country to take back its 'own'? would any immigrant be ok or just go back to the early Middle Ages?
I'm struggling to see how you're disadvantaged or how your life would be much better depending on who's living next door?
Did you lose your job to someone from another country?
It's an open valve, there has to be control. How many is enough? Or do you have an enough figure? Just keep going? Greater populated countries will soak up such mass immigration. A small populated Island like Ireland could soon be a different sort of country. Now that may not be all bad, who knows? But why the Laissez-faire?
Quote from: Itchy on July 02, 2024, 10:49:13 PMMove to France then you idiot. I'm guessing you didn't do history at school assuming you went to school at all. BTW, your gang of racist fucks got wiped out in our local elections - sorry
Lol
I know of one local constituency where an anti migration candidate got more votes than the 2 Sinn Fein candidates combined
Would you regard that as a wipe out for SF?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2024, 08:54:32 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 02, 2024, 08:30:21 PMMust be sickening to some but to me it's what Irekand and the GAA is all about
https://x.com/LadiesFootball/status/1808219928266506727?t=1QH8-SddvEj7pIjN68PDOQ&s=19
Would/did bring a tear to the eye
We've a Ukrainian girl plays camogie with us, no fear in her at all and scored her first goal last year for our U14's.
Some English kids appearing to the training as well who've moved into the area, I'll take all immigrants ;)
Quote from: whitey on July 03, 2024, 01:41:41 AMQuote from: Itchy on July 02, 2024, 10:49:13 PMMove to France then you idiot. I'm guessing you didn't do history at school assuming you went to school at all. BTW, your gang of racist fucks got wiped out in our local elections - sorry
Lol
I know of one local constituency where an anti migration candidate got more votes than the 2 Sinn Fein candidates combined
Would you regard that as a wipe out for SF?
lol lol lol lol
SF got 102 council seats in what was rightly deemed a poor showing. Far Right Parties (and no Aontu are not far right) got 4 I think.
That is a wipeout. Your knuckle dragging inbred wankers are not wanted in Ireland so get used to it.
Quote from: Itchy on July 03, 2024, 12:39:46 PMQuote from: whitey on July 03, 2024, 01:41:41 AMQuote from: Itchy on July 02, 2024, 10:49:13 PMMove to France then you idiot. I'm guessing you didn't do history at school assuming you went to school at all. BTW, your gang of racist fucks got wiped out in our local elections - sorry
Lol
I know of one local constituency where an anti migration candidate got more votes than the 2 Sinn Fein candidates combined
Would you regard that as a wipe out for SF?
lol lol lol lol
SF got 102 council seats in what was rightly deemed a poor showing. Far Right Parties (and no Aontu are not far right) got 4 I think. That is a wipeout. Your knuckle dragging inbred wankers are not wanted in Ireland so get used to it.
So based on your logic, candidates from parties like PBP "are not wanted in Ireland".
The candidates from the "far right" also helped push out losers like Clare Daly and Worzel Gummidge and got people with common sense (as it pertains to migration$ like Mulooley and McNamara elected
They also prevented Sinn Fein from getting a bunch of seats
BTW
The 2 SF candidates in that constituency I mentioned , combined, got less than 25% of the FPV the sitting SF TD got in the last GE
A collapse of epic proportions
Quote from: whitey on July 03, 2024, 12:56:18 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 03, 2024, 12:39:46 PMQuote from: whitey on July 03, 2024, 01:41:41 AMQuote from: Itchy on July 02, 2024, 10:49:13 PMMove to France then you idiot. I'm guessing you didn't do history at school assuming you went to school at all. BTW, your gang of racist fucks got wiped out in our local elections - sorry
Lol
I know of one local constituency where an anti migration candidate got more votes than the 2 Sinn Fein candidates combined
Would you regard that as a wipe out for SF?
lol lol lol lol
SF got 102 council seats in what was rightly deemed a poor showing. Far Right Parties (and no Aontu are not far right) got 4 I think. That is a wipeout. Your knuckle dragging inbred wankers are not wanted in Ireland so get used to it.
So based on your logic, candidates from parties like PBP "are not wanted in Ireland".
The candidates from the "far right" also helped push out losers like Clare Daly and Worzel Gummidge and got people with common sense (as it pertains to migration$ like Mulooley and McNamara elected
They also prevented Sinn Fein from getting a bunch of seats
BTW
The 2 SF candidates in that constituency I mentioned , combined, got less than 25% of the FPV the sitting SF TD got in the last GE
A collapse of epic proportions
just out of interest what percentage of their candidates get each party get elected and how many did they run?
Proud to say the neonazifascists only got 471 FP votes in Roscommon out of 35,000 votes cast.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2024, 01:46:53 PMProud to say the neonazifascists only got 471 FP votes in Roscommon out of 35,000 votes cast.
I'm now completely confused
Are Independent Ireland not "far right" by your standards?
Nigel Dineen got double the vote of the SF candidate and was actually elected
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/06/08/local-elections-2024-roscommon-county-council-results/
So Independent Ireland now have exactly the same number of seats as SF on Roscommon Council
(Maybe I'm mixing you up with Itchy)
Quote from: whitey on July 03, 2024, 12:56:18 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 03, 2024, 12:39:46 PMQuote from: whitey on July 03, 2024, 01:41:41 AMQuote from: Itchy on July 02, 2024, 10:49:13 PMMove to France then you idiot. I'm guessing you didn't do history at school assuming you went to school at all. BTW, your gang of racist fucks got wiped out in our local elections - sorry
Lol
I know of one local constituency where an anti migration candidate got more votes than the 2 Sinn Fein candidates combined
Would you regard that as a wipe out for SF?
lol lol lol lol
SF got 102 council seats in what was rightly deemed a poor showing. Far Right Parties (and no Aontu are not far right) got 4 I think. That is a wipeout. Your knuckle dragging inbred wankers are not wanted in Ireland so get used to it.
So based on your logic, candidates from parties like PBP "are not wanted in Ireland".
The candidates from the "far right" also helped push out losers like Clare Daly and Worzel Gummidge and got people with common sense (as it pertains to migration$ like Mulooley and McNamara elected
They also prevented Sinn Fein from getting a bunch of seats
BTW
The 2 SF candidates in that constituency I mentioned , combined, got less than 25% of the FPV the sitting SF TD got in the last GE
A collapse of epic proportions
This is a thread about the Far Right, the clue is in the name. There is a thread if you want to spread your wisdom about Sinn Fein and their collapse. As for the rest of the nonsense you are posting I have no idea what you are waffling on about. The Far Right parties were rejected by the Irish voter very clearly.
Quote from: Itchy on July 03, 2024, 02:05:35 PMQuote from: whitey on July 03, 2024, 12:56:18 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 03, 2024, 12:39:46 PMQuote from: whitey on July 03, 2024, 01:41:41 AMQuote from: Itchy on July 02, 2024, 10:49:13 PMMove to France then you idiot. I'm guessing you didn't do history at school assuming you went to school at all. BTW, your gang of racist fucks got wiped out in our local elections - sorry
Lol
I know of one local constituency where an anti migration candidate got more votes than the 2 Sinn Fein candidates combined
Would you regard that as a wipe out for SF?
lol lol lol lol
SF got 102 council seats in what was rightly deemed a poor showing. Far Right Parties (and no Aontu are not far right) got 4 I think. That is a wipeout. Your knuckle dragging inbred wankers are not wanted in Ireland so get used to it.
So based on your logic, candidates from parties like PBP "are not wanted in Ireland".
The candidates from the "far right" also helped push out losers like Clare Daly and Worzel Gummidge and got people with common sense (as it pertains to migration$ like Mulooley and McNamara elected
They also prevented Sinn Fein from getting a bunch of seats
BTW
The 2 SF candidates in that constituency I mentioned , combined, got less than 25% of the FPV the sitting SF TD got in the last GE
A collapse of epic proportions
This is a thread about the Far Right, the clue is in the name. There is a thread if you want to spread your wisdom about Sinn Fein and their collapse. As for the rest of the nonsense you are posting I have no idea what you are waffling on about. The Far Right parties were rejected by the Irish voter very clearly.
Believe whatever you want
What's the story with the NI People party
https://nipeople.co.uk/
Look like free-market libertarians?
Quote from: armaghniac on July 03, 2024, 04:27:40 PMWhat's the story with the NI People party
https://nipeople.co.uk/
Sounds like the American "Republican" Party.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czk0rz5l1neo (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czk0rz5l1neo)
Quote from: Puckoon on July 04, 2024, 07:14:16 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czk0rz5l1neo (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czk0rz5l1neo)
Whiteys type of people there.
Ciaran Mullooly MEP on X
''Pleased to confirm I have accepted the invitation of @sandrogozi
to join the European Democratic Party @PDE_EDP sitting with the Renew Europe group in the European Parliament as I believe that it best fits the needs of my constituents in Ireland Midlands-Northwest constituency.''
What a turncoat traitor. Cosying up with FF, Macron and all.
People sent Mullooly to Europe for change and not to replicate FF/FG by joining that grouping or to support the corrupt Ursula Von Der Leyen
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 04, 2024, 08:35:28 PMCiaran Mullooly MEP on X
''Pleased to confirm I have accepted the invitation of @sandrogozi
to join the European Democratic Party @PDE_EDP sitting with the Renew Europe group in the European Parliament as I believe that it best fits the needs of my constituents in Ireland Midlands-Northwest constituency.''
What a turncoat traitor. Cosying up with FF, Macron and all.
People sent Mullooly to Europe for change and not to replicate FF/FG by joining that grouping or to support the corrupt Ursula Von Der Leyen
The people really showed the establishment a thing or two voting this man. What a legend.
Quote from: Itchy on July 04, 2024, 08:42:07 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 04, 2024, 08:35:28 PMCiaran Mullooly MEP on X
''Pleased to confirm I have accepted the invitation of @sandrogozi
to join the European Democratic Party @PDE_EDP sitting with the Renew Europe group in the European Parliament as I believe that it best fits the needs of my constituents in Ireland Midlands-Northwest constituency.''
What a turncoat traitor. Cosying up with FF, Macron and all.
People sent Mullooly to Europe for change and not to replicate FF/FG by joining that grouping or to support the corrupt Ursula Von Der Leyen
The people really showed the establishment a thing or two voting this man. What a legend.
It's controlled opposition. He mopped up all the disgruntled votes and took away their voice.
He was going to make all the difference in the Euro Parliament.
The other 6 or 700 MEPs have no say 🙄.
I left him blank anyway.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 04, 2024, 09:12:04 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 04, 2024, 08:42:07 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 04, 2024, 08:35:28 PMCiaran Mullooly MEP on X
''Pleased to confirm I have accepted the invitation of @sandrogozi
to join the European Democratic Party @PDE_EDP sitting with the Renew Europe group in the European Parliament as I believe that it best fits the needs of my constituents in Ireland Midlands-Northwest constituency.''
What a turncoat traitor. Cosying up with FF, Macron and all.
People sent Mullooly to Europe for change and not to replicate FF/FG by joining that grouping or to support the corrupt Ursula Von Der Leyen
The people really showed the establishment a thing or two voting this man. What a legend.
It's controlled opposition. He mopped up all the disgruntled votes and took away their voice.
Would would you expect from an RTE presenter?
Quote from: Rossfan on July 04, 2024, 10:00:20 PMHe was going to make all the difference in the Euro Parliament.
The other 6 or 700 MEPs have no say 🙄.
I left him blank anyway.
Yes, he got a blank from me also. There were a lot of blanks on my Ballot paper.
Quote from: burdizzo on July 04, 2024, 10:16:18 PMWould would you expect from an RTE presenter?
I expected exactly what he was, just I expected him to play the game and hide who he really was.
He hid it well enough until he was elected. Then, straight away, he let the cat out of the bag and said he wouldn't be joining the ECR group.
Great to see the far right fascists in France get stopped in their tracks. People power tramped on the maggots.
Quote from: burdizzo on July 02, 2024, 10:41:44 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 02, 2024, 09:18:34 PMMeanwhile another extremist showing his IQ
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0702/1457779-leinster-house-usher/
That's you, Rosspam. It's extremist to want endless immigration, and it's, um... - a sign of very high IQ to endlessly paste links rather than write something intelligent in your own words.
Anyway, it amuses me how our moral guardians on this board - who never miss a chance to preen their antifa credentials - didn't even notice the big win for the right-thinking French at the weekend. Over 33%, wasn't it? Europe is waking up, lads. We're a bit behind, but we'll get there.
This didn't age well. France has seen sense, Ireland and the UK have rejected right wing parties as they know where it leads. Time for you to crawl back under your rock lad, your tine has come and gone in the blink of an eye.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 08, 2024, 12:43:17 AMQuote from: Itchy on July 07, 2024, 10:51:44 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 02, 2024, 10:41:44 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 02, 2024, 09:18:34 PMMeanwhile another extremist showing his IQ
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0702/1457779-leinster-house-usher/
That's you, Rosspam. It's extremist to want endless immigration, and it's, um... - a sign of very high IQ to endlessly paste links rather than write something intelligent in your own words.
Anyway, it amuses me how our moral guardians on this board - who never miss a chance to preen their antifa credentials - didn't even notice the big win for the right-thinking French at the weekend. Over 33%, wasn't it? Europe is waking up, lads. We're a bit behind, but we'll get there.
This didn't age well. France has seen sense, Ireland and the UK have rejected right wing parties as they know where it leads. Time for you to crawl back under your rock lad, your tine has come and gone in the blink of an eye.
Plus 1... the far right will be crushed underfoot ...
Lots of Nazifascist tears in Paris, Moscow and elsewhere this morning.
Thank God for France 🇫🇷
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 08, 2024, 12:43:17 AMQuote from: Itchy on July 07, 2024, 10:51:44 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 02, 2024, 10:41:44 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 02, 2024, 09:18:34 PMMeanwhile another extremist showing his IQ
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0702/1457779-leinster-house-usher/
That's you, Rosspam. It's extremist to want endless immigration, and it's, um... - a sign of very high IQ to endlessly paste links rather than write something intelligent in your own words.
Anyway, it amuses me how our moral guardians on this board - who never miss a chance to preen their antifa credentials - didn't even notice the big win for the right-thinking French at the weekend. Over 33%, wasn't it? Europe is waking up, lads. We're a bit behind, but we'll get there.
This didn't age well. France has seen sense, Ireland and the UK have rejected right wing parties as they know where it leads. Time for you to crawl back under your rock lad, your tine has come and gone in the blink of an eye.
Plus 1... the far right will be crushed underfoot ...
You really believe that? The right-thinking ones increased their parliamentary representation by two-thirds, and that despite the informal voting pact between the anarchists/ hard left, and Macron's lot. Plus, pretty much the entire media establishment.
By the way, Itchy, where does endless immigration lead? Interesting to see Islamists boo-ing a female Labour candidate's winning speech in Birmingham. Hah! Be careful what you wish for; they are not like us, and nor do they want to be.
Most of you must have failed Pass Maths in the junior cert
National Rally and Allies got 37.3% of the vote (142 seats)
New Popular front got 26.9% of the vote (178 seats)
Macron and co got 22.3 % of the vote (150 seats)
Huge surge in vote towards the right
Quote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 03:57:22 PMMost of you must have failed Pass Maths in the junior cert
National Rally and Allies got 37.3% of the vote (142 seats)
New Popular front got 26.9% of the vote (178 seats)
Macron and co got 22.3 % of the vote (150 seats)
Huge surge in vote towards the right
You better fire your Google up again.
The fkheads were all ready to take over the Governnent and institute a reign of naziesque terror on all who didn't meet their concept of Frenchness.
Thankfully the decent people of France stopped them unlike the Germans in 1933 or the Yanks in 2016 (2024????).
Quote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 04:28:09 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 03:57:22 PMMost of you must have failed Pass Maths in the junior cert
National Rally and Allies got 37.3% of the vote (142 seats)
New Popular front got 26.9% of the vote (178 seats)
Macron and co got 22.3 % of the vote (150 seats)
Huge surge in vote towards the right
You better fire your Google up again.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/07/world/france-election-2024
Believe whatever you want
Quote from: Rossfan on July 08, 2024, 04:31:05 PMThe fkheads were all ready to take over the Governnent and institute a reign of naziesque terror on all who didn't meet their concept of Frenchness.
Thankfully the decent people of France stopped them unlike the Germans in 1933 or the Yanks in 2016 (2024????).
Haha! You forgotten your medication again?! Everyone knew RN wasn't going to get enough to form a government. Have you even been following this? Anyway, your hyperbole clearly indicates you're raging at how well the right is doing across Europe - but sadly it also exposes your contributions as utter horseshit.
Quote from: burdizzo on July 08, 2024, 04:57:11 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 08, 2024, 04:31:05 PMThe fkheads were all ready to take over the Governnent and institute a reign of naziesque terror on all who didn't meet their concept of Frenchness.
Thankfully the decent people of France stopped them unlike the Germans in 1933 or the Yanks in 2016 (2024????).
Haha! You forgotten your medication again?! Everyone knew RN wasn't going to get enough to form a government. Have you even been following this? Anyway, your hyperbole clearly indicates you're raging at how well the right is doing across Europe - but sadly it also exposes your contributions as utter horseshit.
I suppose doing well is subjective. Everton did well not to get relegated.
Interesting views from Toni Kroos on Germany
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/toni-kroos-says-immigration-has-left-his-homeland-unrecognisable/ar-BB1pC8KI?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=132e52dd717a4835b748ce38fc59ea10&ei=12
Quote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 04:35:05 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 04:28:09 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 03:57:22 PMMost of you must have failed Pass Maths in the junior cert
National Rally and Allies got 37.3% of the vote (142 seats)
New Popular front got 26.9% of the vote (178 seats)
Macron and co got 22.3 % of the vote (150 seats)
Huge surge in vote towards the right
You better fire your Google up again.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/07/world/france-election-2024
Believe whatever you want
You're a bit thick so I'll explain in very simple terms. The French election is like a 2 lap race. When you are ahead at the bell going into the last lap does not mean you've won. "Believe what you want"? What a clown you are.
Quote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 10:42:59 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 04:35:05 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 04:28:09 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 03:57:22 PMMost of you must have failed Pass Maths in the junior cert
National Rally and Allies got 37.3% of the vote (142 seats)
New Popular front got 26.9% of the vote (178 seats)
Macron and co got 22.3 % of the vote (150 seats)
Huge surge in vote towards the right
You better fire your Google up again.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/07/world/france-election-2024
Believe whatever you want
You're a bit thick so I'll explain in very simple terms. The French election is like a 2 lap race. When you are ahead at the bell going into the last lap does not mean you've won. "Believe what you want"? What a clown you are.
Did LePen and Co receive 37.7% of the votes cast?
Did LePen and co win 142 seats?
Yes or no answers only please
Quote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 10:55:29 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 10:42:59 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 04:35:05 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 04:28:09 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 03:57:22 PMMost of you must have failed Pass Maths in the junior cert
National Rally and Allies got 37.3% of the vote (142 seats)
New Popular front got 26.9% of the vote (178 seats)
Macron and co got 22.3 % of the vote (150 seats)
Huge surge in vote towards the right
You better fire your Google up again.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/07/world/france-election-2024
Believe whatever you want
You're a bit thick so I'll explain in very simple terms. The French election is like a 2 lap race. When you are ahead at the bell going into the last lap does not mean you've won. "Believe what you want"? What a clown you are.
Did LePen and Co receive 37.7% of the votes cast?
Did LePen and co win 142 seats?
Yes or no answers only please
Believe what you want
😆
Quote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 11:27:48 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 10:55:29 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 10:42:59 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 04:35:05 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 04:28:09 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 03:57:22 PMMost of you must have failed Pass Maths in the junior cert
National Rally and Allies got 37.3% of the vote (142 seats)
New Popular front got 26.9% of the vote (178 seats)
Macron and co got 22.3 % of the vote (150 seats)
Huge surge in vote towards the right
You better fire your Google up again.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/07/world/france-election-2024
Believe whatever you want
You're a bit thick so I'll explain in very simple terms. The French election is like a 2 lap race. When you are ahead at the bell going into the last lap does not mean you've won. "Believe what you want"? What a clown you are.
Did LePen and Co receive 37.7% of the votes cast?
Did LePen and co win 142 seats?
Yes or no answers only please
Believe what you want
😆
So thats a Yes and Yes
Thanks
(In 2022 they got 3.5M votes and 17% of votes cast in the second round)
(In 2024 they got 10.1M votes and 37% of votes cast in the second round)
Really looks like theyre getting "thumped" and "crushed underfoot"-LOL
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 01:19:53 AMQuote from: whitey on July 09, 2024, 12:12:07 AMQuote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 11:27:48 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 10:55:29 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 10:42:59 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 04:35:05 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 08, 2024, 04:28:09 PMQuote from: whitey on July 08, 2024, 03:57:22 PMMost of you must have failed Pass Maths in the junior cert
National Rally and Allies got 37.3% of the vote (142 seats)
New Popular front got 26.9% of the vote (178 seats)
Macron and co got 22.3 % of the vote (150 seats)
Huge surge in vote towards the right
You better fire your Google up again.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/07/world/france-election-2024
Believe whatever you want
You're a bit thick so I'll explain in very simple terms. The French election is like a 2 lap race. When you are ahead at the bell going into the last lap does not mean you've won. "Believe what you want"? What a clown you are.
Did LePen and Co receive 37.7% of the votes cast?
Did LePen and co win 142 seats?
Yes or no answers only please
Believe what you want
😆
So thats a Yes and Yes
Thanks
(In 2022 they got 3.5M votes and 17% of votes cast in the second round)
(In 2024 they got 10.1M votes and 37% of votes cast in the second round)
Really looks like theyre getting "thumped" and "crushed underfoot"-LOL
Like ants 🐜
Poor Whitey is upset the Fascists' finished 3rd.
It's funny how the Irish far right deny that they are far right but have no problem nailing their colours to the mast in support of the far right overseas.
Every slogan, mantra, lie that they spout is regurgitated from the mainland Europe fascists.
Sad, but not surprising, to see an Irish immigrant to the US gleefully embracing fascism 90 years after the Americans and their Allies rid Europe of that poison.
Again well done to the majority of French people who rejected the odious modern day SA/NSDAP and well done to the Centre and various shades of left for co operating to stop them.
They won't be getting sent to a French version of Dachau now.
Quote from: Father Murphy on July 09, 2024, 09:00:06 AMIt's funny how the Irish far right deny that they are far right but have no problem nailing their colours to the mast in support of the far right overseas.
Who said I support them
Merely pointing out that they didn't get "thumped" or "trampled underfoot" in Sundays election
Looking at their percentage share and raw number of votes they did very well....their support just didn't translate into seats
Even if they didn't get the largest amount of seats, similar to reform in the UK the amount of votes they got is surely not to be dismissed.
Quote from: Father Murphy on July 09, 2024, 09:00:06 AMIt's funny how the Irish far right deny that they are far right but have no problem nailing their colours to the mast in support of the far right overseas.
As you know, the term "far right" is intended to vilify those with normal common-sense, who don't wish to see their countries transformed by uncontrolled immigration. It's irrelevant and pejorative. RN isn't "far right", Geert Wilders isn't "far right", Orban isn't "far right", and nor is AfD, Meloni in Italy, or Freedom Party in Austria. All just right-thinking and for the most part National Conservative. Why would right-thinking people take on the language of the deluded, resentful left?
Quote from: burdizzo on July 09, 2024, 11:15:01 AMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 09, 2024, 09:00:06 AMIt's funny how the Irish far right deny that they are far right but have no problem nailing their colours to the mast in support of the far right overseas.
As you know, the term "far right" is intended to vilify those with normal common-sense, who don't wish to see their countries transformed by uncontrolled immigration. It's irrelevant and pejorative. RN isn't "far right", Geert Wilders isn't "far right", Orban isn't "far right", and nor is AfD, Meloni in Italy, or Freedom Party in Austria. All just right-thinking and for the most part National Conservative. Why would right-thinking people take on the language of the deluded, resentful left?
😂
I'd say Burdy would have felt at home in 1930s Germany ::)
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 09, 2024, 11:47:25 AMQuote from: burdizzo on July 09, 2024, 11:15:01 AMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 09, 2024, 09:00:06 AMIt's funny how the Irish far right deny that they are far right but have no problem nailing their colours to the mast in support of the far right overseas.
As you know, the term "far right" is intended to vilify those with normal common-sense, who don't wish to see their countries transformed by uncontrolled immigration. It's irrelevant and pejorative. RN isn't "far right", Geert Wilders isn't "far right", Orban isn't "far right", and nor is AfD, Meloni in Italy, or Freedom Party in Austria. All just right-thinking and for the most part National Conservative. Why would right-thinking people take on the language of the deluded, resentful left?
😂
I love how he knows them all of by heart, all these far people who aren't really far right.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 12:51:11 PMTheir UVF racist mates painting swastikas across Antrim... far right
Or " normal common sense" people per Burdy ;D ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2024, 01:33:00 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 12:51:11 PMTheir UVF racist mates painting swastikas across Antrim... far right
Or " normal common sense" people per Burdy ;D ;D
For such a senior, your comments are amazingly puerile.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 12:51:11 PMTheir UVF racist mates painting swastikas across Antrim... far right
Thts disgusting and quite worrying. Whatever else about who may or may not far right, that sort of shit needs stamped out immediately
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 09, 2024, 05:48:44 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 12:51:11 PMTheir UVF racist mates painting swastikas across Antrim... far right
Thts disgusting and quite worrying. Whatever else about who may or may not far right, that sort of shit needs stamped out immediately
It's horrific plenty incidents here which are invariably loyalist driven.. and thats a fact.
If brains were dynamite those boys wouldn't have enough to blow their nose. Did you ever see the photo of the fella wearing the poppy and had a swastika tattooed on his neck...
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 09, 2024, 06:03:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 09, 2024, 05:48:44 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 12:51:11 PMTheir UVF racist mates painting swastikas across Antrim... far right
Thts disgusting and quite worrying. Whatever else about who may or may not far right, that sort of shit needs stamped out immediately
It's horrific plenty incidents here which are invariably loyalist driven.. and thats a fact.
If brains were dynamite those boys wouldn't have enough to blow their nose. Did you ever see the photo of the fella wearing the poppy and had a swastika tattooed on his neck...
While waving an Israeli fleg! Couldn't make it up
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2024, 06:08:43 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 09, 2024, 06:03:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 09, 2024, 05:48:44 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 12:51:11 PMTheir UVF racist mates painting swastikas across Antrim... far right
Thts disgusting and quite worrying. Whatever else about who may or may not far right, that sort of shit needs stamped out immediately
It's horrific plenty incidents here which are invariably loyalist driven.. and thats a fact.
If brains were dynamite those boys wouldn't have enough to blow their nose. Did you ever see the photo of the fella wearing the poppy and had a swastika tattooed on his neck...
While waving an Israeli fleg! Couldn't make it up
There are 2 boys on this forum from a similar gene pool.
Filth.
Our filth at it again....
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0715/1459944-coolock/
I hope no one tells Itchy
There's a new "far right" party in Ireland that has massive support
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/sinn-fein-failed-to-reflect-publics-views-on-immigration-mcdonald-says-6YDDMHKVFJEDVOLOQFCDFLZUNE/
On immigration, Ms McDonald said the party "failed to reflect where most people are at".
"So I have listened – and we are going to listen every single day – to what those who rely on Sinn Fein are telling us. That has always been our core strength
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2024, 06:08:43 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 09, 2024, 06:03:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 09, 2024, 05:48:44 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 09, 2024, 12:51:11 PMTheir UVF racist mates painting swastikas across Antrim... far right
Thts disgusting and quite worrying. Whatever else about who may or may not far right, that sort of shit needs stamped out immediately
It's horrific plenty incidents here which are invariably loyalist driven.. and thats a fact.
If brains were dynamite those boys wouldn't have enough to blow their nose. Did you ever see the photo of the fella wearing the poppy and had a swastika tattooed on his neck...
While waving an Israeli fleg! Couldn't make it up
Had the misfortune of driving past a cultural bonfire on Thursday night, 12 year old in the front seat wearing a Derry jersey. Tricolor, Palestinian and Sinn Fein flags on the bonfire and as we drove past someone threw a bottle at the car and scared the crap out of my young lad. The cheer went up from the squad of hard men and women walking along the roadside with the booze in hand. If it had hit the window, my lad would have been hurt.
We have friends who are from that tradition and attend bonfires and parades. My lad can't understand it.
It's an ingrained hatred of anything Catholic/Irish/Gaa in them. And if we were to be pro-anything, they would be against the same thing. The anti-immigrant thing is borne out of fear of having the precious union diluted.
I'd an antrim top on going to Lisburn and I regretted it quick enough when I had to stop at temporary lights with a crowd of ones round it. I just covered it up but it's a time of year that makes me pretty uncomfortable tbh.
Sick people full of hate, projecting their own pathetic lives onto themuns, whether themuns are Catholics, Muslims, black, gay etc - themuns are always to blame for everything.
It's an alien feeling I'd assume for young kids to be wary of wearing their favoured tops due to the areas we walk through drive through or live.
15 of the nazifascist filth arrested in Coolock.
Attacked Garda Station.
FFS! After they burned buses and Garda cars you'd think they would be ready but no...
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/0715/1460054-from-morning-to-night-how-the-clashes-in-coolock-developed/
This was going online since 3am. A lad sent away at 5am is back at 7.30am.
Open calls to rally at 6pm from lads travelling from all over the country.
How can't they get this under control?!
Heavy immediate detentions
I suppose they'd need to change the laws a bit, but wrapping these oxygen users up in cotton wool is the norm.
They've had a difficult upbringing so give them a break
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 15, 2024, 09:28:33 PMFFS! After they burned buses and Garda cars you'd think they would be ready but no...
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/0715/1460054-from-morning-to-night-how-the-clashes-in-coolock-developed/
This was going online since 3am. A lad sent away at 5am is back at 7.30am.
Open calls to rally at 6pm from lads travelling from all over the country.
How can't they get this under control?!
All gardai are good for these days is filling in paperwork.
There is a video of them in a line watching lads dance on two cars!!
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0715/1460060-coolock-court/
That sc**bag nazi Philip Dwyer the "Citizen journalist" among them.
A horrible horrible person >:(
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2024, 07:59:18 AMA horrible horrible person >:(
Looked him up there, he ticks so many many boxes inc animal cruelty.. And people will listen to this clampet?!
Was it him rounded on a black kid demanding he debate "Ireland for the Irish" with him.
Black kid responded as Gaeilge that he'd debate the subject anytime anywhere but would have to be i nGaeilge.
Yer man was left open mouthed and stuttered "ehh ehh...ní thuigim"
I don't think that one was him but there's plenty of stuff he's been at. I read the stuff a bit during covid at the start but there was significant hate and made up bullshit being spouted about people who'd died from covid. It was very offensive to the people involved, regardless of views on any of that, and I just blocked him. Nothing but hate and bile.
From 49 to 68 and 1 from feckin Kildare
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0716/1460186-coolock-court/
I see poo Enoch was his with the legal fees of his failed defamation case. A very expensive business that.
The guards in this country are some joke, these far right scumbags have managed to set fire to the site in Coolock again tonight despite cops being there.
Is this the sort of thing they protesting at ? In the country five days (after racking up several convictions during his year in the UK) and sexually assaulting a woman in Dublin.
No documents, fake name etc to Gards
We need more like this
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-jailed-for-sexually-assaulting-a-woman-after-following-her-for-30-minutes-1650548.html
Quote from: Itchy on July 18, 2024, 10:23:36 PMThe guards in this country are some joke, these far right scumbags have managed to set fire to the site in Coolock again tonight despite cops being there.
Aw.
Tell me, Itchy, where do you get off, telling your fellow country-men that they must love having hundreds of complete strangers - with whom they have virtually nothing in common - living on their doorstep. The arrogance of you. What makes you hate your country-men so much? And why do you prefer the alien culture to your own? Sad.
Burning buildings, throwing petrol bombs and attacking Gardai is not "protesting"
It is terrorism.
A Cavan man was found guilty of raping a child today.
We'd better burn all Cavan people out and "send them home" to protect our children.
Yap, yap, yap. Yap, yap, yap.
You make no sense, Rosspam, with your hyperbole and false equivalences.
Yap away, like an annoying little terrier. Good old boy.
How is a fascist like the poster above allowed to spout shite on this forum?
Quote from: Rossfan on July 18, 2024, 11:32:47 PMBurning buildings, throwing petrol bombs and attacking Gardai is not "protesting"
It is terrorism.
A Cavan man was found guilty of raping a child today.
We'd better burn all Cavan people out and "send them home" to protect our children.
In what world is that the same thing.
Although I am all for your getting rid of them mean Cavan huers idea ;)
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 19, 2024, 01:12:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on July 18, 2024, 11:32:47 PMBurning buildings, throwing petrol bombs and attacking Gardai is not "protesting"
It is terrorism.
A Cavan man was found guilty of raping a child today.
We'd better burn all Cavan people out and "send them home" to protect our children.
In what world is that the same thing.
Although I am all for your getting rid of them mean Cavan huers idea ;)
It's simple, a Cavan man was found guilty of the vilest of crimes, should we burn out all Cavan folk and send them to 'Connacht' so that 'our' ( our = pure white Irish and catholic) children be safe?
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 19, 2024, 01:12:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on July 18, 2024, 11:32:47 PMBurning buildings, throwing petrol bombs and attacking Gardai is not "protesting"
It is terrorism.
A Cavan man was found guilty of raping a child today.
We'd better burn all Cavan people out and "send them home" to protect our children.
In what world is that the same thing.
Although I am all for your getting rid of them mean Cavan huers idea ;)
you're right, its not the same thing. These nationalist heroes are protesting against people despite them not doing anything and fearmongering of what they might do to Irish children, whereas the guy from Cavan has actually committed a heinous crime against Irish children
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on July 19, 2024, 12:19:56 AMHow is a fascist like the poster above allowed to spout shite on this forum?
Exactly and I have been threatened with bans twice for putting him back in his box. Dirty little nazi is all he is and a disgrace to the country he thinks he is a patriot for.
So let me see if I can follow this logic
Seeing as we have home grown Irish criminals (which we've had since the foundation of the state over 100 years ago) we should adopt an open borders approach to immigration
Makes sense
Quote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 08:21:55 AMQuote from: Harold Disgracey on July 19, 2024, 12:19:56 AMHow is a fascist like the poster above allowed to spout shite on this forum?
Exactly and I have been threatened with bans twice for putting him back in his box. Dirty little nazi is all he is and a disgrace to the country he thinks he is a patriot for.
Ceapaim nach bhfuil focal Gaeilge ag an plaidhc cosùil leis na "patriots" eile.
Quote from: whitey on July 19, 2024, 10:32:08 AMSo let me see if I can follow this logic
Seeing as we have home grown Irish criminals (which we've had since the foundation of the state over 100 years ago) we should adopt an open borders approach to immigration
Makes sense
how did you get to that? And whats this we business paleface?
I was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
Fair play to those people.
Meanwhile another "hero" for the 3 lads getting his just desserts.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/men-shouted-fung-immigrant-as-tourist-struck-with-machete-in-dublin-city-centre/a316162279.html
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2024, 11:17:45 AMFair play to those people.
Meanwhile another "hero" for the 3 lads getting his just desserts.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/men-shouted-fung-immigrant-as-tourist-struck-with-machete-in-dublin-city-centre/a316162279.html
Hogan has 29 previous convictions from the District Court, including several for possession of knives, theft and public order offencesNo doubt all 29 convictions were in the name of "patriotism" and not just being a dirty sc**bag.
Quote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 11:08:40 AMI was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
+1
Quote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 11:08:40 AMI was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
What you don't like me pointing out that some lowlife Algerian was in Dublin 5 days and sexually assaulted a woman, no papers, no passport ?
Or you could say, lowlife man sexually assaults woman, knowing where they are from is irrelevant?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2024, 01:28:56 PMOr you could say, lowlife man sexually assaults woman, knowing where they are from is irrelevant?
It's relevant when he's seeking asylum, shouldn't have to explain this to you
Quote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 11:08:40 AMI was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
In fact, Ireland is being irreversibly changed. Had you not noticed?!
As for "putting me back in my box"... Ha ha! You're some joker. Do you think you're intelligent, or something?!
By the way, what's your take on the antifa turds tearing down the barricades along the canal? That's law-breaking and vandalism. Shouldn't they be pepper-sprayed and beaten?
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 19, 2024, 01:29:51 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2024, 01:28:56 PMOr you could say, lowlife man sexually assaults woman, knowing where they are from is irrelevant?
It's relevant when he's seeking asylum, shouldn't have to explain this to you
I know why you are highlighting where they are from, that's obvious, and while the government continue to speed up these processes the direction of 'hate' should be at the ministers who have not or not dealing with the problems of people entering the country without papers when they land.
Speeding up the process would certainly reduce the numbers coming, why these mobs are not burning cars or having marches outside the ministers homes is baffling.
Seems they would prefer to intimidate people that have already in most cases come from countries which have been in civil war or other internal conflicts, same ones are probably sympathetic with people from Gaza, but wouldn't want one next door
Quote from: burdizzo on July 19, 2024, 01:36:00 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 11:08:40 AMI was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
In fact, Ireland is being irreversibly changed. Had you not noticed?!
As for "putting me back in my box"... Ha ha! You're some joker. Do you think you're intelligent, or something?!
By the way, what's your take on the antifa turds tearing down the barricades along the canal? That's law-breaking and vandalism. Shouldn't they be pepper-sprayed and beaten?
no, hadnt noticed, do explain how it is being irreversibly chnged
Quote from: burdizzo on July 19, 2024, 01:36:00 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 11:08:40 AMI was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
In fact, Ireland is being irreversibly changed. Had you not noticed?!
As for "putting me back in my box"... Ha ha! You're some joker. Do you think you're intelligent, or something?!
By the way, what's your take on the antifa turds tearing down the barricades along the canal? That's law-breaking and vandalism. Shouldn't they be pepper-sprayed and beaten?
Ah boo hoo,better a bit of multiculturalism on the island than to be surrounded by Trumpty Dumptys like yourself. Get out and see a bit of the world, soak in different cultures, it's hard to beat.
And get off YouTube and the right wing American guff you're filling your brain with, 'antifa', ffs get a grip, reading that sh1te on here from Irish folk makes your eyes melt! Peace
... And enter Whitey Pride Worldwide / skidder81 stage left...
Quote from: Snapchap on July 19, 2024, 01:16:46 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 11:08:40 AMI was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
+1
I think I am a victim of mistaken identity
I don't want to "change Ireland", I just want current immigration law enforced
I guess if you're against enforcing immigration law, then you're in favor of open borders
Quote from: whitey on July 19, 2024, 02:28:34 PMQuote from: Snapchap on July 19, 2024, 01:16:46 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 11:08:40 AMI was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
+1
I think I am a victim of mistaken identity
I don't want to "change Ireland", I just want current immigration law enforced
I guess if you're against enforcing immigration law, then you're in favor of open borders
If you want that enforcing, explain to me the best way it should be done, and who would you direct this to?
Please don't fall into the mob attacking asylum seekers bracket.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2024, 01:28:56 PMOr you could say, lowlife man sexually assaults woman, knowing where they are from is irrelevant?
The right wing white male apologists for nazifascist terrorism only see it as wrong if it's a foreigner/black man/muslim assaulting a woman.
Otherwise women should know their place and behave themselves.
Take a look at the scum in Calais daily pulling knives on lorry drivers and trying to slip across the channel on boats.
If you want 4 or 500 of them moving in up the road fair play to you.
Calais is in France as far as I'm aware.
If people resident in the French Government's jurisdiction are as alleged committing crimes then up to French Government/Police to deal with it.
Nothing to do with Indian care workers in Boyle or a few black lads in Strokestown or Syrians in Ballaghadereen.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 19, 2024, 04:21:06 PMTake a look at the scum in Calais daily pulling knives on lorry drivers and trying to slip across the channel on boats.
If you want 4 or 500 of them moving in up the road fair play to you.
Yes, stop the boats! The boats are the problem! The boats! Hook, line and sinker.. The right ring media are a powerful lot that's for sure.
How's about stopping the government's and their billionaire backers who are causing all the unrest/ displacement and screwing the world over? . They're the real scum. That's where people's anger should be aimed at.
Quote from: JoG2 on July 19, 2024, 04:30:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 19, 2024, 04:21:06 PMTake a look at the scum in Calais daily pulling knives on lorry drivers and trying to slip across the channel on boats.
If you want 4 or 500 of them moving in up the road fair play to you.
Yes, stop the boats! The boats are the problem! The boats! Hook, line and sinker.. The right ring media are a powerful lot that's for sure.
How's about stopping the government's and their billionaire backers who are causing all the unrest/ displacement and screwing the world over? . They're the real scum. That's where people's anger should be aimed at.
So, yes or no, should a country be allowed to control who enters their jurisdiction?
Quote from: JoG2 on July 19, 2024, 04:30:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 19, 2024, 04:21:06 PMTake a look at the scum in Calais daily pulling knives on lorry drivers and trying to slip across the channel on boats.
If you want 4 or 500 of them moving in up the road fair play to you.
Yes, stop the boats! The boats are the problem! The boats! Hook, line and sinker.. The right ring media are a powerful lot that's for sure.
How's about stopping the government's and their billionaire backers who are causing all the unrest/ displacement and screwing the world over? . They're the real scum. That's where people's anger should be aimed at.
The right-wing media? Where are they? The media here is overwhelmingly left, as are nearly all the parties in the Dail, the entertainment industry, the universities, etc. (And, by the way, I don't look at American Youtube videos but, nevertheless, 'antifa' are here, and call themselves that.)
Yes, you have a point: this is all happening because it's made and let happen by those wielding the most power - and for the most part, our politicians are only doing their bidding. Even so, it's fair to protest them, though when that happens the 'lefties' here cry 'foul', as well.
Still, the boats ARE a problem. They're bringing in the new underclass, and no amount of handwringing will change that fact. Of course we have scumbags here already, but at least we understand them. Wait till we're dealing with the "new scumbags". A different breed. Oh, it's going to be fun.
Quote from: whitey on July 19, 2024, 02:28:34 PMQuote from: Snapchap on July 19, 2024, 01:16:46 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 11:08:40 AMI was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
+1
I think I am a victim of mistaken identity
I don't want to "change Ireland", I just want current immigration law enforced
I guess if you're against enforcing immigration law, then you're in favor of open borders
Not true, you're a total bullshitter. You are on record here clearly saying you don't want irish illegals put out of USA so seems your selective in the laws you want enforced. Blacks and Muslims is what your against.
Quote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 06:28:44 PMQuote from: whitey on July 19, 2024, 02:28:34 PMQuote from: Snapchap on July 19, 2024, 01:16:46 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 11:08:40 AMI was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
+1
I think I am a victim of mistaken identity
I don't want to "change Ireland", I just want current immigration law enforced
I guess if you're against enforcing immigration law, then you're in favor of open borders
Not true, you're a total bullshitter. You are on record here clearly saying you don't want irish illegals put out of USA so seems your selective in the laws you want enforced. Blacks and Muslims is what your against.
[/quoteQuote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 06:28:44 PMQuote from: whitey on July 19, 2024, 02:28:34 PMQuote from: Snapchap on July 19, 2024, 01:16:46 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 19, 2024, 11:08:40 AMI was heartened to see a report on the news of some poor Asylum seekers who were in tents in Phibsboro. The Far right scumbags turned up to beat them up. Next night the locals in the area set up a corden to protect them and even took some of them into their houses rather than leave them in tents outside. That is the real Ireland, always has been. No matter how hard Whitey, Burdizzo or Kidder and their ilk try to change Ireland they will fail.
+1
I think I am a victim of mistaken identity
I don't want to "change Ireland", I just want current immigration law enforced
I guess if you're against enforcing immigration law, then you're in favor of open borders
Not true, you're a total bullshitter. You are on record here clearly saying you don't want irish illegals put out of USA so seems your selective in the laws you want enforced. Blacks and Muslims is what your against.
Untrue
Go back and check the tape (on the US Politics thread)
I am on record as saying that assuming they are law abiding no undocumented people should be deported.
I eagerly await your groveling apology
Scum at it again tonight.
And now this :-
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0719/1460882-journalist-threat/
Beyond time to out these nazifascist terrorist cnts out of business.
You keep waiting racist.
"Untrue
Go back and check the tape (on the US Politics thread)
I am on record as saying that assuming they are law abiding no undocumented people should be deported.
I eagerly await your groveling apology"
'Undocumented' - is that a special word for white Irish illegal migrants?
I think it's a great policy though - let's apply it to all the 'undocumented' migrants in Ireland. We could even put it on the books, call it 'Whitey's Law'.
Quote from: Father Murphy on July 20, 2024, 06:46:02 AM"Untrue
Go back and check the tape (on the US Politics thread)
I am on record as saying that assuming they are law abiding no undocumented people should be deported.
I eagerly await your groveling apology"
'Undocumented' - is that a special word for white Irish illegal migrants?
I think it's a great policy though - let's apply it to all the 'undocumented' migrants in Ireland. We could even put it on the books, call it 'Whitey's Law'.
Whitey is so incredibly stupid he sees no contradiction in saying.
1) He's against "illegal" emigration in Ireland. (What he believes illegal is who knows, my guess is blacks and muslims)
2) Undocumented (ie illegal) emigrants in the USA (where he lives as an emigrant) should only be deported if they break the law
Yes welcome to Whiteys racist empty brain.
Quote from: Itchy on July 20, 2024, 08:44:46 AMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 20, 2024, 06:46:02 AM"Untrue
Go back and check the tape (on the US Politics thread)
I am on record as saying that assuming they are law abiding no undocumented people should be deported.
I eagerly await your groveling apology"
'Undocumented' - is that a special word for white Irish illegal migrants?
I think it's a great policy though - let's apply it to all the 'undocumented' migrants in Ireland. We could even put it on the books, call it 'Whitey's Law'.
Whitey is so incredibly stupid he sees no contradiction in saying.
1) He's against "illegal" emigration in Ireland. (What he believes illegal is who knows, my guess is blacks and muslims)
2) Undocumented (ie illegal) emigrants in the USA (where he lives as an emigrant) should only be deported if they break the law
Yes welcome to Whiteys racist empty brain.
Keep her lit itchy
It must be driving you crazy that people have woken up and are opposing your open borders policies.
Even your pals in Sinn Fein have admitted that they were in the wrong side of history and have announced a pivot
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 11:21:42 AMQuote from: Itchy on July 20, 2024, 08:44:46 AMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 20, 2024, 06:46:02 AM"Untrue
Go back and check the tape (on the US Politics thread)
I am on record as saying that assuming they are law abiding no undocumented people should be deported.
I eagerly await your groveling apology"
'Undocumented' - is that a special word for white Irish illegal migrants?
I think it's a great policy though - let's apply it to all the 'undocumented' migrants in Ireland. We could even put it on the books, call it 'Whitey's Law'.
Whitey is so incredibly stupid he sees no contradiction in saying.
1) He's against "illegal" emigration in Ireland. (What he believes illegal is who knows, my guess is blacks and muslims)
2) Undocumented (ie illegal) emigrants in the USA (where he lives as an emigrant) should only be deported if they break the law
Yes welcome to Whiteys racist empty brain.
Keep her lit itchy
It must be driving you crazy that people have woken up and are opposing your open borders policies.
Even your pals in Sinn Fein have admitted that they were in the wrong side of history and have announced a pivot
Fully I tend to "Keep her lit" and expose your racist yank gobshitery.
3 Gardai injured by the scum last night.
Any chance Yank or the other 2 might condemn that?
As for "open borders"
60,000,000 people in the Island next door can come here any time they want.
450,000,000 in the rest of the EU likewise.
Anyone can apply for International Protection in accordance with International Law.
Others can come on holiday or student visas or work permits.
So Yank, the other 2 and the nazifascist scum want
*End to Common Travel Area with GB (and 6 Cos obviously,with Border sealed)
*Us to leave the EU
*Stop foreign tourists visiting
*Stop foreigners studying here
*Break International Law
*Close the Health and Hospitality Sectors, and other sectors depending on foreign workers.
It's not really that complicated
For a start
Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order
"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done
Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done
Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs that other EU countries pay
All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIt's not really that complicated
For a start
Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order
"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done
Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done
Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs that other EU countries pay
All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow
What happened to 'law abiding' and you're grand?
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIt's not really that complicated
For a start
Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order
"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done
Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done
Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs that other EU countries pay
All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow
If someone arrives, documented or not, and claims asylum that claim has to be dealt with. So what if they expand the number of safe countries?
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:10:07 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIt's not really that complicated
For a start
Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order
"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done
Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done
Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs that other EU countries pay
All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow
If someone arrives, documented or not, and claims asylum that claim has to be dealt with. So what if they expand the number of safe countries?
Well they've done it and the number of people claiming asylum for those newly designated countries has plummeted (ie many of them were scam artists to begin with)
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0701/1457490-safe-countries-ireland/
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:32:41 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:10:07 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIt's not really that complicated
For a start
Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order
"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done
Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done
Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs that other EU countries pay
All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow
If someone arrives, documented or not, and claims asylum that claim has to be dealt with. So what if they expand the number of safe countries?
Well they've done it and the number of people claiming asylum for those newly designated countries has plummeted (ie many of them were scam artists to begin with)
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0701/1457490-safe-countries-ireland/
People abuse the asylum system. What's your point?
Nobody leaves their home country and traipses half way round the world for the craic. Thought you might understand that at least
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:34:45 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:32:41 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:10:07 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIt's not really that complicated
For a start
Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order
"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done
Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done
Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs that other EU countries pay
All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow
If someone arrives, documented or not, and claims asylum that claim has to be dealt with. So what if they expand the number of safe countries?
Well they've done it and the number of people claiming asylum for those newly designated countries has plummeted (ie many of them were scam artists to begin with)
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0701/1457490-safe-countries-ireland/
People abuse the asylum system. What's your point?
Nobody leaves their home country and traipses half way round the world for the craic. Thought you might understand that at least
So why have applications dropped by 50 % then from newly designated safe countries?
So if you're arguing with me about the proposal I advocated for (which are 100% lawful and supported by every main stream political party) you are in favor of open borders
End of
Why do so many try and game the system by converting to Christianity while awaiting a decision ?
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 20, 2024, 03:48:15 PMWhy do so many try and game the system by converting to Christianity while awaiting a decision ?
This is the funniest yet 🤣
Quote from: Rossfan on July 20, 2024, 04:01:54 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on July 20, 2024, 03:48:15 PMWhy do so many try and game the system by converting to Christianity while awaiting a decision ?
This is the funniest yet 🤣
Gobshites will believe anything so long as it reinforces their already racist views, which no doubt they got from their mammy and daddy.
Quote from: Itchy on July 20, 2024, 04:04:11 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 20, 2024, 04:01:54 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on July 20, 2024, 03:48:15 PMWhy do so many try and game the system by converting to Christianity while awaiting a decision ?
This is the funniest yet 🤣
Gobshites will believe anything so long as it reinforces their already racist views, which no doubt they got from their mammy and daddy.
No answer ?
Right Rev Pete Wilcox who was Dean of Liverpool Cathedral
He said that there were many motivations but acknowledged that Muslims who already had British citizenship were not converting. "I can't think of a single example of somebody who already had British citizenship converting here with us from Islam to Christianity,"
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:46:45 PMSo if you're arguing with me about the proposal I advocated for (which are 100% lawful and supported by every main stream political party) you are in favor of open borders
End of
There's no such thing as open borders. Or anytime you come back from the states do you walk through Dublin airport with nobody checking your passport?
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 20, 2024, 03:48:15 PMWhy do so many try and game the system by converting to Christianity while awaiting a decision ?
How many do this?
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:38:30 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:34:45 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:32:41 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:10:07 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIt's not really that complicated
For a start
Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order
"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done
Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done
Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs that other EU countries pay
All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow
If someone arrives, documented or not, and claims asylum that claim has to be dealt with. So what if they expand the number of safe countries?
Well they've done it and the number of people claiming asylum for those newly designated countries has plummeted (ie many of them were scam artists to begin with)
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0701/1457490-safe-countries-ireland/
People abuse the asylum system. What's your point?
Nobody leaves their home country and traipses half way round the world for the craic. Thought you might understand that at least
So why have applications dropped by 50 % then from newly designated safe countries?
As I said, people abuse the asylum system. There's your answer. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed the chance to better their lives does it?or does that privilege only apply to people like you?
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 04:33:30 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:46:45 PMSo if you're arguing with me about the proposal I advocated for (which are 100% lawful and supported by every main stream political party) you are in favor of open borders
End of
There's no such thing as open borders. Or anytime you come back from the states do you walk through Dublin airport with nobody checking your passport?
I never said there WAS open borders
I said that if you disagreed with my simple (and legal) 4 point plan you were an advocate of open borders
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 04:42:09 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 04:33:30 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:46:45 PMSo if you're arguing with me about the proposal I advocated for (which are 100% lawful and supported by every main stream political party) you are in favor of open borders
End of
There's no such thing as open borders. Or anytime you come back from the states do you walk through Dublin airport with nobody checking your passport?
I never said there WAS open borders
I said that if you disagreed with my simple (and legal) 4 point plan you were an advocate of open borders
And how can I advocate for something which doesn't, never has and never will exist?
No answer to my other questions I see?
LOL-but it does exist if you don't enforce your own immigration laws
Go through the four suggestions I made and let me know which ones you agree with and which ones you disagree with (and why)
I didn't understand your question because it made zero sense.....thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of people were let in through Dublin airport without passports in the past year. So obviously people without passports were/are getting in (and it necessitated a government CRACKDOWN)
https://extra.ie/2024/06/20/news/irish-news/crackdown-lost-passports
I can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
f**k sake, will you put on your racist glasses and then you'll see that not only were there 10s of thousands coming in without passports but also that they were all rapists and murderers.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Memo said it wa
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Who said it was in that report?
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 08:35:56 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Memo said it waQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Who said it was in that report?
Why quote it then? The question you're ignoring is are only certain people allowed to leave their home country to further their lives - ie people like you - or should everyone be afforded the same opportunity?
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 07:50:59 PMLOL-but it does exist if you don't enforce your own immigration laws
Go through the four suggestions I made and let me know which ones you agree with and which ones you disagree with (and why)
I didn't understand your question because it made zero sense.....thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of people were let in through Dublin airport without passports in the past year. So obviously people without passports were/are getting in (and it necessitated a government CRACKDOWN)
https://extra.ie/2024/06/20/news/irish-news/crackdown-lost-passports
It was a fairly easy question to understand. No surprise you didn't tho
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 08:40:35 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 08:35:56 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Memo said it wa
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Who said it was in that report?
Why quote it then? The question you're ignoring is are only certain people allowed to leave their home country to further their lives - ie people like you - or should everyone be afforded the same opportunity?
Ah.....So now you're talking about economic migrants (instead of people who are being persecuted in their home country)
Well that's a completely different discussion
I would say if you have skills or talents and they are in demand in a particular country, and you can legally move there......knock yourself out
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 08:35:56 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Memo said it waQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Who said it was in that report?
So you just made that up? Gotcha ;D
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 08:45:14 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 08:40:35 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 08:35:56 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Memo said it wa
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Who said it was in that report?
Why quote it then? The question you're ignoring is are only certain people allowed to leave their home country to further their lives - ie people like you - or should everyone be afforded the same opportunity?
Ah.....So now you're talking about economic migrants (instead of people who are being persecuted in their home country)
Well that's a completely different discussion
I would say if you have skills or talents and they are in demand in a particular country, and you can legally move there......knock yourself out
im talking about anybody. Similar to yourself. You wanted to better your life so you went to the states. I'm assuming you are there legally now and went legally in the first place. Isn't it well for you that you were able. Not everyone is hence one of the major reasons why the asylum system is 'abused'. It's free. Visas cost money. More money than a lot of people can afford so they do what they can. The same as plenty of Irish have done in the past. But call them economic migrants if it makes you feel better about yourself
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 08:40:35 PMQuote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 08:35:56 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Memo said it waQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:12:48 PMI can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
Who said it was in that report?
Why quote it then? The question you're ignoring is are only certain people allowed to leave their home country to further their lives - ie people like you - or should everyone be afforded the same opportunity?
Sorry could you clarify what opportunity everyone should be afforded? The right to live in America or the right to live wherever they want to?
The right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
By the same token, if people in a country feel their lives are better off without a certain kind of immigrant, should they not have the right to say so?
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
That's fair enough but at what cost? I have no issue with people coming here as long as they contribute. Armagh is full of Romanians and Bulgarians and I'd say they're not moving the needle for the taxman. Poles and Lithuanians came and all the ones I know grafted like f**k.
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
Then does everyone from everywhere have the right to move to America to better themselves? Is that what you believe?
I understand that you think people have a right to better their lives? But does that apply to all 6 billion people living on the planet?
Quote from: burdizzo on July 20, 2024, 11:25:17 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
By the same token, if people in a country feel their lives are better off without a certain kind of immigrant, should they not have the right to say so?
By certain kind of immigrant you mean black don't you
Quote from: trileacman on July 20, 2024, 11:37:47 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
Then does everyone from everywhere have the right to move to America to better themselves? Is that what you believe?
I understand that you think people have a right to better their lives? But does that apply to all 6 billion people living on the planet?
America was used as an example because whitey moved there. Maybe legally maybe not, I don't know. Nobody said everyone from everywhere has the right to move to America
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 20, 2024, 11:33:11 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
That's fair enough but at what cost? I have no issue with people coming here as long as they contribute. Armagh is full of Romanians and Bulgarians and I'd say they're not moving the needle for the taxman. Poles and Lithuanians came and all the ones I know grafted like f**k.
You'd say. So you don't know do you. Plenty of locals are not moving the needle for the taxman. Do you have an issue with them?
Quote from: trileacman on July 20, 2024, 11:37:47 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
Then does everyone from everywhere have the right to move to America to better themselves? Is that what you believe?
I understand that you think people have a right to better their lives? But does that apply to all 6 billion people living on the planet?
People should have the right to better themselves, if that's in another country then that's ok, if there are rules and stipulations to achieve that then that should also be adhered to, the governments and rules of that country are set down by the government that is in charge, they are voted in by the people of that country.
If people have a problem with that you've options.
This isn't a new phenomenon, migration of sorts has been happening for a millennia, countries need to work out how to embrace it (as it's not going away) and work it for their advantage
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:51:38 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on July 20, 2024, 11:33:11 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
That's fair enough but at what cost? I have no issue with people coming here as long as they contribute. Armagh is full of Romanians and Bulgarians and I'd say they're not moving the needle for the taxman. Poles and Lithuanians came and all the ones I know grafted like f**k.
You'd say. So you don't know do you. Plenty of locals are not moving the needle for the taxman. Do you have an issue with them?
As lazy as your response about the locals. I'd have bet the house on that one! Take the night off and see if you have anything better tomorrow.
We're all descended from immigrants in this Country.
Our ancestors just arrived at different times since the ice retreated.
Absolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Quote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Whether they are fleeing persecution or want to better themselves it's ok.
The government needs to address how they go about that, persecuting them when they arrive isn't a good solution. You're an animal if you think it's ok.
If the government are not going about it based on the current laws that needs addressing, but beating people up is wrong.
Beat up the politicians might work quicker (I'm joking ;) )
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2024, 12:21:17 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Whether they are fleeing persecution or want to better themselves it's ok.
The government needs to address how they go about that, persecuting them when they arrive isn't a good solution. You're an animal if you think it's ok.
If the government are not going about it based on the current laws that needs addressing, but beating people up is wrong.
Beat up the politicians might work quicker (I'm joking ;) )
Mits actuall
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2024, 12:21:17 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Whether they are fleeing persecution or want to better themselves it's ok.
The government needs to address how they go about that, persecuting them when they arrive isn't a good solution. You're an animal if you think it's ok.
If the government are not going about it based on the current laws that needs addressing, but beating people up is wrong.
Beat up the politicians might work quicker (I'm joking ;) )
Who's advocating beating anyone up
So you're in favor of open borders-fair enough
Thanks
Quote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 01:18:48 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2024, 12:21:17 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Whether they are fleeing persecution or want to better themselves it's ok.
The government needs to address how they go about that, persecuting them when they arrive isn't a good solution. You're an animal if you think it's ok.
If the government are not going about it based on the current laws that needs addressing, but beating people up is wrong.
Beat up the politicians might work quicker (I'm joking ;) )
Mits actuallQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2024, 12:21:17 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Whether they are fleeing persecution or want to better themselves it's ok.
The government needs to address how they go about that, persecuting them when they arrive isn't a good solution. You're an animal if you think it's ok.
If the government are not going about it based on the current laws that needs addressing, but beating people up is wrong.
Beat up the politicians might work quicker (I'm joking ;) )
Who's advocating beating anyone up
So you're in favor of open borders-fair enough
Thanks
You are holding on to that quote like it means something.
Quote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:49:40 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 20, 2024, 11:25:17 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
By the same token, if people in a country feel their lives are better off without a certain kind of immigrant, should they not have the right to say so?
By certain kind of immigrant you mean black don't you
I'm sure the beloved Palestinians weren't too fond of Jewish immigration into The Holy Land.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 21, 2024, 12:08:27 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:51:38 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on July 20, 2024, 11:33:11 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
That's fair enough but at what cost? I have no issue with people coming here as long as they contribute. Armagh is full of Romanians and Bulgarians and I'd say they're not moving the needle for the taxman. Poles and Lithuanians came and all the ones I know grafted like f**k.
You'd say. So you don't know do you. Plenty of locals are not moving the needle for the taxman. Do you have an issue with them?
As lazy as your response about the locals. I'd have bet the house on that one! Take the night off and see if you have anything better tomorrow.
And I'd have bet the house on this response - nothing to back up your claim. Take your own advice.
Quote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
You brought in abuse of the asylum system and I gave you one of the main reasons why people abuse it. That's why the conversation moved on.
Yeah. Only while people have the e right to move to countries 1000s of miles away
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 21, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on July 21, 2024, 12:08:27 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:51:38 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on July 20, 2024, 11:33:11 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
That's fair enough but at what cost? I have no issue with people coming here as long as they contribute. Armagh is full of Romanians and Bulgarians and I'd say they're not moving the needle for the taxman. Poles and Lithuanians came and all the ones I know grafted like f**k.
You'd say. So you don't know do you. Plenty of locals are not moving the needle for the taxman. Do you have an issue with them?
As lazy as your response about the locals. I'd have bet the house on that one! Take the night off and see if you have anything better tomorrow.
And I'd have bet the house on this response - nothing to back up your claim. Take your own advice.
You know it's true, we all know it's true but for some reason you are taking a different approach on an anonymous discussion board. It's bizarre.
The only Romanians or Slovaks that work legit are those that needed to show a work history to qualify for Universal Credit, once they qualified, almost to a man, they quit working & become "sick". It is orchestrated by gangs in some instances, but not all. In any event they add nothing to the communities here.
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 21, 2024, 10:21:50 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
You brought in abuse of the asylum system and I gave you one of the main reasons why people abuse it. That's why the conversation moved on.
Yeah. Only while people have the e right to move to countries 1000s of miles away
So now you're admitting that many (maybe even a majority) of these asylum/international protection claims are fraudulent. Fair enough
I'm intrigued to get Kidders data supported (not at all generalised) run down on all nationalities. So far we have...
Lithuania and Poland = work like f**k
Slovakia and Romania = quit working & become "sick". Mostly orchestrated by gangs.
Can you give us your insights on other nationalities please, maybe we could get the government's to base their law on your opinions?
Let's start with the English.
Quote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 11:54:30 AMI'm intrigued to get Kidders data supported (not at all generalised) run down on all nationalities. So far we have...
Lithuania and Poland = work like f**k
Slovakia and Romania = quit working & become "sick". Mostly orchestrated by gangs.
Can you give us your insights on other nationalities please, maybe we could get the government's to base their law on your opinions?
Let's start with the English.
Speaking from personal experience he's spot on.
Pricks. :)
Quote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 11:10:41 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 21, 2024, 10:21:50 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
You brought in abuse of the asylum system and I gave you one of the main reasons why people abuse it. That's why the conversation moved on.
Yeah. Only while people have the e right to move to countries 1000s of miles away
So now you're admitting that many (maybe even a majority) of these asylum/international protection claims are fraudulent. Fair enough
I said people abuse the asylum system. That's not a secret. And no, I'm not saying the majority I also gave you one of the main reasons reasons why it's abused.
The same way people abuse many many systems. Like for example, people going to the states on 'holiday' with no intention of returning once the holiday is over. Perhaps you done that?
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 21, 2024, 11:58:11 AMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 11:54:30 AMI'm intrigued to get Kidders data supported (not at all generalised) run down on all nationalities. So far we have...
Lithuania and Poland = work like f**k
Slovakia and Romania = quit working & become "sick". Mostly orchestrated by gangs.
Can you give us your insights on other nationalities please, maybe we could get the government's to base their law on your opinions?
Let's start with the English.
Speaking from personal experience he's spot on.
Pricks. :)
Everyone Slovak or Romanian you've met have been pricks? You sure?
I suppose people would think every Armagh person is a p***k if they were basing it off you
Quote from: Father Murphy on July 21, 2024, 08:08:08 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.
The IRS is a different government agency. You do not need a Social Security number to pay tax in US, just a tax identification number. So illegals actually pay tax, in the amnesty states anyway. In NY everyone has rights under the law regardless of visa status, and it's illegal for the different agencies to ask about your immigration status. I assume if you commit a crime that then changes for the police department.
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 05:30:05 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 21, 2024, 08:08:08 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.
The IRS is a different government agency. You do not need a Social Security number to pay tax in US, just a tax identification number. So illegals actually pay tax, in the amnesty states anyway. In NY everyone has rights under the law regardless of visa status, and it's illegal for the different agencies to ask about your immigration status. I assume if you commit a crime that then changes for the police department.
Also most illegal Irish immigrants are white and Christian so that's another reason they are OK.
Quote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:05:56 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 05:30:05 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 21, 2024, 08:08:08 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.
The IRS is a different government agency. You do not need a Social Security number to pay tax in US, just a tax identification number. So illegals actually pay tax, in the amnesty states anyway. In NY everyone has rights under the law regardless of visa status, and it's illegal for the different agencies to ask about your immigration status. I assume if you commit a crime that then changes for the police department.
Also most illegal Irish immigrants are white and Christian so that's another reason they are OK.
Any amount of Mexicans, Jamaicans etc
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 06:23:43 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:05:56 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 05:30:05 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 21, 2024, 08:08:08 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.
The IRS is a different government agency. You do not need a Social Security number to pay tax in US, just a tax identification number. So illegals actually pay tax, in the amnesty states anyway. In NY everyone has rights under the law regardless of visa status, and it's illegal for the different agencies to ask about your immigration status. I assume if you commit a crime that then changes for the police department.
Also most illegal Irish immigrants are white and Christian so that's another reason they are OK.
Any amount of Mexicans, Jamaicans etc
I'm aware but I'm not sure are Mexicans allowed, Whiteys gang were going building a big wall I recall.
Quote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:31:35 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 06:23:43 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:05:56 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 05:30:05 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 21, 2024, 08:08:08 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.
The IRS is a different government agency. You do not need a Social Security number to pay tax in US, just a tax identification number. So illegals actually pay tax, in the amnesty states anyway. In NY everyone has rights under the law regardless of visa status, and it's illegal for the different agencies to ask about your immigration status. I assume if you commit a crime that then changes for the police department.
Also most illegal Irish immigrants are white and Christian so that's another reason they are OK.
Any amount of Mexicans, Jamaicans etc
I'm aware but I'm not sure are Mexicans allowed, Whiteys gang were going building a big wall I recall.
https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf
Believe whatever you want
Quote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 06:39:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:31:35 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 06:23:43 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:05:56 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 05:30:05 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 21, 2024, 08:08:08 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.
The IRS is a different government agency. You do not need a Social Security number to pay tax in US, just a tax identification number. So illegals actually pay tax, in the amnesty states anyway. In NY everyone has rights under the law regardless of visa status, and it's illegal for the different agencies to ask about your immigration status. I assume if you commit a crime that then changes for the police department.
Also most illegal Irish immigrants are white and Christian so that's another reason they are OK.
Any amount of Mexicans, Jamaicans etc
I'm aware but I'm not sure are Mexicans allowed, Whiteys gang were going building a big wall I recall.
https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf
Believe whatever you want
The plain hard numbers don't always tell the full story.
States like NY welcome illegals because they need them. They keep a lot of basic services running. That will incur its own costs because people get on with life, and have things like children and such. So that's the payback. Those born in US are entitled to food stamps, medical, education etc and when they come of age will contribute back to the system. It's a balancing act. But you can't pay people shit money to work long hours and cry foul when they can't feed their kids.
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 06:56:11 PMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 06:39:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:31:35 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 06:23:43 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:05:56 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 05:30:05 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 21, 2024, 08:08:08 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.
The IRS is a different government agency. You do not need a Social Security number to pay tax in US, just a tax identification number. So illegals actually pay tax, in the amnesty states anyway. In NY everyone has rights under the law regardless of visa status, and it's illegal for the different agencies to ask about your immigration status. I assume if you commit a crime that then changes for the police department.
Also most illegal Irish immigrants are white and Christian so that's another reason they are OK.
Any amount of Mexicans, Jamaicans etc
I'm aware but I'm not sure are Mexicans allowed, Whiteys gang were going building a big wall I recall.
https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf
Believe whatever you want
The plain hard numbers don't always tell the full story.
States like NY welcome illegals because they need them. They keep a lot of basic services running. That will incur its own costs because people get on with life, and have things like children and such. So that's the payback. Those born in US are entitled to food stamps, medical, education etc and when they come of age will contribute back to the system. It's a balancing act. But you can't pay people shit money to work long hours and cry foul when they can't feed their kids.
That's why no one should be in the country illegally.
If you're here, you should be part of the system and entitled to all of the privileges (and responsibilities) that come along with that (regardless of your skin color or ethnicity)
I am on record as saying (multiple times) that there should be amnesty for ALL undocumented persons as long as they are law abiding
Quote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 07:16:16 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 06:56:11 PMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 06:39:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:31:35 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 06:23:43 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:05:56 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 05:30:05 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 21, 2024, 08:08:08 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.
The IRS is a different government agency. You do not need a Social Security number to pay tax in US, just a tax identification number. So illegals actually pay tax, in the amnesty states anyway. In NY everyone has rights under the law regardless of visa status, and it's illegal for the different agencies to ask about your immigration status. I assume if you commit a crime that then changes for the police department.
Also most illegal Irish immigrants are white and Christian so that's another reason they are OK.
Any amount of Mexicans, Jamaicans etc
I'm aware but I'm not sure are Mexicans allowed, Whiteys gang were going building a big wall I recall.
https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf
Believe whatever you want
The plain hard numbers don't always tell the full story.
States like NY welcome illegals because they need them. They keep a lot of basic services running. That will incur its own costs because people get on with life, and have things like children and such. So that's the payback. Those born in US are entitled to food stamps, medical, education etc and when they come of age will contribute back to the system. It's a balancing act. But you can't pay people shit money to work long hours and cry foul when they can't feed their kids.
That's why no one should be in the country illegally.
If you're here, you should be part of the system and entitled to all of the privileges (and responsibilities) that come along with that (regardless of your skin color or ethnicity)
I am on record as saying (multiple times) that there should be amnesty for ALL undocumented persons as long as they are law abiding
Why do you call illegals "undocumented" in the case of the USA? And people without documents get off a plane you call illegals in Ireland?
Quote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 07:16:16 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 06:56:11 PMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 06:39:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:31:35 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 06:23:43 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 21, 2024, 06:05:56 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 05:30:05 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on July 21, 2024, 08:08:08 AMQuote from: whitey on July 21, 2024, 12:16:03 AMAbsolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab
Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically
Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.
The IRS is a different government agency. You do not need a Social Security number to pay tax in US, just a tax identification number. So illegals actually pay tax, in the amnesty states anyway. In NY everyone has rights under the law regardless of visa status, and it's illegal for the different agencies to ask about your immigration status. I assume if you commit a crime that then changes for the police department.
Also most illegal Irish immigrants are white and Christian so that's another reason they are OK.
Any amount of Mexicans, Jamaicans etc
I'm aware but I'm not sure are Mexicans allowed, Whiteys gang were going building a big wall I recall.
https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf
Believe whatever you want
The plain hard numbers don't always tell the full story.
States like NY welcome illegals because they need them. They keep a lot of basic services running. That will incur its own costs because people get on with life, and have things like children and such. So that's the payback. Those born in US are entitled to food stamps, medical, education etc and when they come of age will contribute back to the system. It's a balancing act. But you can't pay people shit money to work long hours and cry foul when they can't feed their kids.
That's why no one should be in the country illegally.
If you're here, you should be part of the system and entitled to all of the privileges (and responsibilities) that come along with that (regardless of your skin color or ethnicity)
I am on record as saying (multiple times) that there should be amnesty for ALL undocumented persons as long as they are law abiding
A dirty word to a lot of Americans. And you can't really blame them. Regan brought in an amnesty but they're back to square one again. So why will it be any different next time?
But at the same time Americans like to have someone cheap on hand to wipe their ass for them. So they need a labour force for things they wouldn't want their kids working at. It is what it is.
Whitey's "law abiding illegals" is some oxy moron ;D
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/brother-of-gangsters-wayne-and-fatpuss-bradley-ordered-to-stay-away-from-coolock-protest-site/a977353851.html
2 more "super patriots".....
One of them going emigrating.....
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41446546.html
Quote from: burdizzo on July 21, 2024, 08:42:38 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:49:40 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 20, 2024, 11:25:17 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
By the same token, if people in a country feel their lives are better off without a certain kind of immigrant, should they not have the right to say so?
By certain kind of immigrant you mean black don't you
I'm sure the beloved Palestinians weren't too fond of Jewish immigration into The Holy Land.
There were Jews in Palestine long before the Zionists Ashkenazi Jews started arriving from Europe post WW2 and they lived side by side with their Muslim and Christian neighbours.
They then setting about throwing the Palestinians out of their homes and have been doing so ever since.
These Ashkenazi's have no ties to Palestine.
https://hms.harvard.edu/news/ancient-dna-provides-new-insights-ashkenazi-jewish-history (https://hms.harvard.edu/news/ancient-dna-provides-new-insights-ashkenazi-jewish-history)
Quote from: johnnycool on July 30, 2024, 01:41:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 21, 2024, 08:42:38 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:49:40 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 20, 2024, 11:25:17 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
By the same token, if people in a country feel their lives are better off without a certain kind of immigrant, should they not have the right to say so?
By certain kind of immigrant you mean black don't you
I'm sure the beloved Palestinians weren't too fond of Jewish immigration into The Holy Land.
There were Jews in Palestine long before the Zionists Ashkenazi Jews started arriving from Europe post WW2 and they lived side by side with their Muslim and Christian neighbours.
They then setting about throwing the Palestinians out of their homes and have been doing so ever since.
These Ashkenazi's have no ties to Palestine.
https://hms.harvard.edu/news/ancient-dna-provides-new-insights-ashkenazi-jewish-history (https://hms.harvard.edu/news/ancient-dna-provides-new-insights-ashkenazi-jewish-history)
You are as well to take that post and go outside and read it to your dog as to reply to Burdizzo who is just a flat out brainless racist.
Quote from: johnnycool on July 30, 2024, 01:41:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 21, 2024, 08:42:38 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:49:40 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 20, 2024, 11:25:17 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
By the same token, if people in a country feel their lives are better off without a certain kind of immigrant, should they not have the right to say so?
By certain kind of immigrant you mean black don't you
I'm sure the beloved Palestinians weren't too fond of Jewish immigration into The Holy Land.
There were Jews in Palestine long before the Zionists Ashkenazi Jews started arriving from Europe post WW2 and they lived side by side with their Muslim and Christian neighbours.
They then setting about throwing the Palestinians out of their homes and have been doing so ever since.
These Ashkenazi's have no ties to Palestine.
https://hms.harvard.edu/news/ancient-dna-provides-new-insights-ashkenazi-jewish-history (https://hms.harvard.edu/news/ancient-dna-provides-new-insights-ashkenazi-jewish-history)
Indeed. The other thing about the Ashkenazi Jews is that they are supposed to be the ethnic group with the highest IQ.
Quote from: burdizzo on July 30, 2024, 10:31:25 PMQuote from: johnnycool on July 30, 2024, 01:41:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 21, 2024, 08:42:38 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:49:40 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 20, 2024, 11:25:17 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 11:10:12 PMThe right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?
By the same token, if people in a country feel their lives are better off without a certain kind of immigrant, should they not have the right to say so?
By certain kind of immigrant you mean black don't you
I'm sure the beloved Palestinians weren't too fond of Jewish immigration into The Holy Land.
There were Jews in Palestine long before the Zionists Ashkenazi Jews started arriving from Europe post WW2 and they lived side by side with their Muslim and Christian neighbours.
They then setting about throwing the Palestinians out of their homes and have been doing so ever since.
These Ashkenazi's have no ties to Palestine.
https://hms.harvard.edu/news/ancient-dna-provides-new-insights-ashkenazi-jewish-history (https://hms.harvard.edu/news/ancient-dna-provides-new-insights-ashkenazi-jewish-history)
Indeed. The other thing about the Ashkenazi Jews is that they are supposed to be the ethnic group with the highest IQ.
Well done them.
Doesn't give them the right to carry out a genocide right before our eyes.
Poor auld Tommy Robinson in a bit of bother bless him ;D
Thick as pig shit, but funny nonetheless.
Southport (https://x.com/i/status/1818404375666344156)
Quote from: johnnycool on July 31, 2024, 12:00:52 PMThick as pig shit, but funny nonetheless.
Southport (https://x.com/i/status/1818404375666344156)
That was a classic.
A double whammy!
Quote from: marty34 on July 31, 2024, 12:05:54 PMQuote from: johnnycool on July 31, 2024, 12:00:52 PMThick as pig shit, but funny nonetheless.
Southport (https://x.com/i/status/1818404375666344156)
That was a classic.
A double whammy!
If you watch closely it's a treble! Chest, head then gonads ;D
The intelligence of these morons is typified with that clip.
Bouncing around like an orangutan (possibly on purpose, who the f**k knows) and inciting hatred and encouraging riots!
Probably had stitches inserted by a doctor from West Africa which we'll no doubt hear about
https://x.com/BolshieBish/status/1818406788510695667?t=XsY-a52fEbOyGgyP-EuQ2g&s=19
What caused these riots, I wonder?
Quote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 02:02:18 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2024, 01:56:23 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 01:42:15 PMWhat caused these riots, I wonder?
Stupidity?
Ha ha! Head in the sand, as usual.
Okay I'll throw in alcohol and coke on top of the stupidity. It's quite a cocktail.
Quote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 01:42:15 PMWhat caused these riots, I wonder?
Right-wing fascist cnuts like Yaxley-Lennon, Farage and Tice whipping up scum to exploit the murder of children.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2024, 02:14:00 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 02:02:18 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2024, 01:56:23 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 01:42:15 PMWhat caused these riots, I wonder?
Stupidity?
Ha ha! Head in the sand, as usual.
Okay I'll throw in alcohol and coke on top of the stupidity. It's quite a cocktail.
Add in racism, xenophobia, supremacy, misinformation...
What caused the Leeds riots?
Quote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 01:42:15 PMWhat caused these riots, I wonder?
Can you give me your thoughts on why?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2024, 03:00:18 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 01:42:15 PMWhat caused these riots, I wonder?
Can you give me your thoughts on why?
Oh, I could - but I just wanted to see if any of ye could bring yerselves to acknowledge it!
Quote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 08:52:08 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2024, 03:00:18 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 01:42:15 PMWhat caused these riots, I wonder?
Can you give me your thoughts on why?
Oh, I could - but I just wanted to see if any of ye could bring yerselves to acknowledge it!
Ya haven't, but I'll ask again.
What I gather from people like Robinson, Tate and Wee Bryson is the truth doesn't matter.
It's doesn't matter because some bucking brain dead moron will believe their crap, and even when the truth is proven they move on to the next lie, and the lemmings keep on coming
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2024, 08:59:27 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 08:52:08 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2024, 03:00:18 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 01:42:15 PMWhat caused these riots, I wonder?
Can you give me your thoughts on why?
Oh, I could - but I just wanted to see if any of ye could bring yerselves to acknowledge it!
Ya haven't, but I'll ask again.
What I gather from people like Robinson, Tate and Wee Bryson is the truth doesn't matter.
It's doesn't matter because some bucking brain dead moron will believe their crap, and even when the truth is proven they move on to the next lie, and the lemmings keep on coming
I knew you couldn't bring yourself to acknowledge the obvious! And, by the way, answering a question with another is pretty juvenile. Oh yeah, sorry - I forgot...
Quote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 09:03:10 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2024, 08:59:27 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 08:52:08 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2024, 03:00:18 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 01:42:15 PMWhat caused these riots, I wonder?
Can you give me your thoughts on why?
Oh, I could - but I just wanted to see if any of ye could bring yerselves to acknowledge it!
Ya haven't, but I'll ask again.
What I gather from people like Robinson, Tate and Wee Bryson is the truth doesn't matter.
It's doesn't matter because some bucking brain dead moron will believe their crap, and even when the truth is proven they move on to the next lie, and the lemmings keep on coming
I knew you couldn't bring yourself to acknowledge the obvious! And, by the way, answering a question with another is pretty juvenile. Oh yeah, sorry - I forgot...
You never answered, I asked you but again when the truth is known it's avoided
I'll answer. There was a riot as a terrible crime was committed and the guy that did it was either black or Muslim or both. Thankfully he wasn't white as then the boys wouldn't have been able to riot cis white people are grand.
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2024, 11:28:38 PMI'll answer. There was a riot as a terrible crime was committed and the guy that did it was either black or Muslim or both. Thankfully he wasn't white as then the boys wouldn't have been able to riot cis white people are grand.
A white guy in Scotland killed 16 kids, the deadliest massacre but no riots afterwards.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2024, 11:33:58 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 31, 2024, 11:28:38 PMI'll answer. There was a riot as a terrible crime was committed and the guy that did it was either black or Muslim or both. Thankfully he wasn't white as then the boys wouldn't have been able to riot cis white people are grand.
A white guy in Scotland killed 16 kids, the deadliest massacre but no riots afterwards.
Dunblane was nearly 30 years ago. Different time. Things were not as polarised.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 31, 2024, 11:37:01 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2024, 11:33:58 PMQuote from: Itchy on July 31, 2024, 11:28:38 PMI'll answer. There was a riot as a terrible crime was committed and the guy that did it was either black or Muslim or both. Thankfully he wasn't white as then the boys wouldn't have been able to riot cis white people are grand.
A white guy in Scotland killed 16 kids, the deadliest massacre but no riots afterwards.
Dunblane was nearly 30 years ago. Different time. Things were not as polarised.
Every decade has had polarised views problems, mental health has been around for millennia.
I've absolutely no idea why a person will carry out such atrocities
What I do know is the morons that turned out and rioted yesterday do not give a toss about this kids that were murdered, it fuels their views.
That's all that matters
The English moronic nazifascists were at it in several locations last night.
Haven't heard much out of our filth recently.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 01, 2024, 03:18:23 PMThe English moronic nazifascists were at it in several locations last night.
Haven't heard much out of our filth recently.
Didn't hear anything from you about Leeds. Hypocrite.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 07:10:15 AMQuote from: Rossfan on August 01, 2024, 03:18:23 PMThe English moronic nazifascists were at it in several locations last night.
Haven't heard much out of our filth recently.
Didn't hear anything from you about Leeds. Hypocrite.
Avoid, and switch.
Plenty of hand wringing going on and not much else
Another fine specimen of the loony right 🙄
https://m.sundayworld.com/news/northern-ireland-news/motorist-tells-cops-i-dont-need-car-insurance-as-im-only-passing-through-life/a1731163277.html
Quote from: Rossfan on August 02, 2024, 09:15:17 AMAnother fine specimen of the loony right 🙄
https://m.sundayworld.com/news/northern-ireland-news/motorist-tells-cops-i-dont-need-car-insurance-as-im-only-passing-through-life/a1731163277.html
Sounds like the sovereign citizens nonsense in the states is spreading.
He goes by Charles P. O'Neill on Facebook. I think he needs help. Remember these balloons used to serve "legal" papers to people :-[
I see there is a planned protest in Belfast tomorrow at the Islamic centre to 'demand a withdrawal from our communities and Christian country'
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 02, 2024, 12:39:00 PMI see there is a planned protest in Belfast tomorrow at the Islamic centre to 'demand a withdrawal from our communities and Christian country'
The goons organising it have called for protestors to bring their Chritian flags (whatever they are), Union Jack and Irish flags.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 02, 2024, 01:14:06 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 02, 2024, 12:39:00 PMI see there is a planned protest in Belfast tomorrow at the Islamic centre to 'demand a withdrawal from our communities and Christian country'
The goons organising it jqbe called for protestors to bring their Chritian flags (whatever they are), Union Jack and Irish flags.
I wonder will there be few clowns up from the south, waving their Irish flags?
Quote from: marty34 on August 02, 2024, 01:21:54 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on August 02, 2024, 01:14:06 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 02, 2024, 12:39:00 PMI see there is a planned protest in Belfast tomorrow at the Islamic centre to 'demand a withdrawal from our communities and Christian country'
The goons organising it jqbe called for protestors to bring their Chritian flags (whatever they are), Union Jack and Irish flags.
I wonder will there be few clowns up from the south, waving their Irish flags?
I'd say they haven't been to any Christian venues in a while
"Love thy neighbour" unless he's black, brown or yellow
They'd give that Christ fella short shrift if he turned up these days with his oul brown skin and "woke" talk.
Union flags and tri-colours on the same March?
Is this freaky Friday?
Quote from: AustinPowers on August 02, 2024, 01:50:50 PMUnion flags and tri-colours on the same March?
Is this freaky Friday?
Great way to promote unity in the north.
Quote from: AustinPowers on August 02, 2024, 01:50:50 PMUnion flags and tri-colours on the same March?
Is this freaky Friday?
No, just freaky extremists
Not surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
Quote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 09:40:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Hur-de-hur. The schoolboy smugness of ya. You have more in common with your loyalist cousins than you do with your 'new neighbours', only your inferiority complex won't let you accept it.
Jolene Bunting's crowd organizing it seems
Quote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:11:25 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 09:40:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Hur-de-hur. The schoolboy smugness of ya. You have more in common with your loyalist cousins than you do with your 'new neighbours', only your inferiority complex won't let you accept it.
Been living here longer than me, so I'm the new one.
Your inferiority complex is not down to people coming in from other countries, it's how your parents brought you up most likely, monkey sees monkey does..
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 10:38:44 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:11:25 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 09:40:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Hur-de-hur. The schoolboy smugness of ya. You have more in common with your loyalist cousins than you do with your 'new neighbours', only your inferiority complex won't let you accept it.
Been living here longer than me, so I'm the new one.
Your inferiority complex is not down to people coming in from other countries, it's how your parents brought you up most likely, monkey sees monkey does..
My God, you're not even entertaining to argue with! Like a child - "I'm stupid? Well, you're stupider!". Plus, your psychoanalysis is fairly retarded. Anyway, away to your "monkeys see, monkeys do" shit, or better still, stick to the refereeing. That I can take may hat off to.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:49:49 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 10:38:44 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:11:25 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 09:40:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Hur-de-hur. The schoolboy smugness of ya. You have more in common with your loyalist cousins than you do with your 'new neighbours', only your inferiority complex won't let you accept it.
Been living here longer than me, so I'm the new one.
Your inferiority complex is not down to people coming in from other countries, it's how your parents brought you up most likely, monkey sees monkey does..
My God, you're not even entertaining to argue with! Like a child - "I'm stupid? Well, you're stupider!". Plus, your psychoanalysis is fairly retarded. Anyway, away to your "monkeys see, monkeys do" shit, or better still, stick to the refereeing. That I can take may hat off to.
Have you ever seen him ref? ;)
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 02, 2024, 10:19:25 PMJolene Bunting's crowd organizing it seems
Another fine specimen🙄
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 02, 2024, 11:04:57 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:49:49 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 10:38:44 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:11:25 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 09:40:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Hur-de-hur. The schoolboy smugness of ya. You have more in common with your loyalist cousins than you do with your 'new neighbours', only your inferiority complex won't let you accept it.
Been living here longer than me, so I'm the new one.
Your inferiority complex is not down to people coming in from other countries, it's how your parents brought you up most likely, monkey sees monkey does..
My God, you're not even entertaining to argue with! Like a child - "I'm stupid? Well, you're stupider!". Plus, your psychoanalysis is fairly retarded. Anyway, away to your "monkeys see, monkeys do" shit, or better still, stick to the refereeing. That I can take may hat off to.
Have you ever seen him ref? ;)
I'll remember that ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on August 02, 2024, 11:05:18 PMQuote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 02, 2024, 10:19:25 PMJolene Bunting's crowd organizing it seems
Another fine specimen🙄
Brains and looks. Be still my beating heart.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 11:10:23 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on August 02, 2024, 11:04:57 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:49:49 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 10:38:44 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:11:25 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 09:40:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Hur-de-hur. The schoolboy smugness of ya. You have more in common with your loyalist cousins than you do with your 'new neighbours', only your inferiority complex won't let you accept it.
Been living here longer than me, so I'm the new one.
Your inferiority complex is not down to people coming in from other countries, it's how your parents brought you up most likely, monkey sees monkey does..
My God, you're not even entertaining to argue with! Like a child - "I'm stupid? Well, you're stupider!". Plus, your psychoanalysis is fairly retarded. Anyway, away to your "monkeys see, monkeys do" shit, or better still, stick to the refereeing. That I can take may hat off to.
Have you ever seen him ref? ;)
I'll remember that ;)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 11:10:23 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on August 02, 2024, 11:04:57 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:49:49 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 10:38:44 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:11:25 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 09:40:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Hur-de-hur. The schoolboy smugness of ya. You have more in common with your loyalist cousins than you do with your 'new neighbours', only your inferiority complex won't let you accept it.
Been living here longer than me, so I'm the new one.
Your inferiority complex is not down to people coming in from other countries, it's how your parents brought you up most likely, monkey sees monkey does..
My God, you're not even entertaining to argue with! Like a child - "I'm stupid? Well, you're stupider!". Plus, your psychoanalysis is fairly retarded. Anyway, away to your "monkeys see, monkeys do" shit, or better still, stick to the refereeing. That I can take may hat off to.
Have you ever seen him ref? ;)
I'll remember that ;)
Obviously a wee joke!
Quote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:11:25 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 09:40:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Hur-de-hur. The schoolboy smugness of ya. You have more in common with your loyalist cousins than you do with your 'new neighbours', only your inferiority complex won't let you accept it.
Aw stop. Bar skin colour theres not too much we share with them loyalist scum.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 02, 2024, 11:31:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:11:25 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 09:40:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Hur-de-hur. The schoolboy smugness of ya. You have more in common with your loyalist cousins than you do with your 'new neighbours', only your inferiority complex won't let you accept it.
Aw stop. Bar skin colour theres not too much we share with them loyalist scum.
What? Same language, follow the same soccer teams, eat the same foods, same religion - as in Christianity - and basically, same nationality (though I know some of them would argue that). It's oft said that the more culturally similar two peoples are, the more they hate each other's little differences.
Their absolute hatred of anything remotely Irish probably trumps any similarities...
It's a bit weird, all right, especially since the Britain they hanker for is long gone. But both communities are the same - accentuating y'r differences because, in reality, you have so much in common.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 03, 2024, 12:04:12 AMIt's a bit weird, all right, especially since the Britain they hanker for is long gone. But both communities are the same - accentuating y'r differences because, in reality, you have so much in common.
Let's see if both communities are out together tomorrow, I'd say the furthest north you've been is Dublin, but now an expert in the north's issues!
So tell me again, you've not answered, why were they were rioting in Southend?
Quote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 11:40:38 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 02, 2024, 11:31:33 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 10:11:25 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 09:40:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 02, 2024, 09:21:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2024, 07:45:14 PMNot surprisingly the main meeting parts for the racism marches tomorrow are in loyalist areas!
Proper lowlifes
Get over yourself. Embrace your neighbour!
I do, every night
And my actual next door neighbour is from Pakistan
Best part of these lowlifes was telling the women and children to be at the front, so the hard men don't end up with a brick in their heads
Hur-de-hur. The schoolboy smugness of ya. You have more in common with your loyalist cousins than you do with your 'new neighbours', only your inferiority complex won't let you accept it.
Aw stop. Bar skin colour theres not too much we share with them loyalist scum.
What? Same language, follow the same soccer teams, eat the same foods, same religion - as in Christianity - and basically, same nationality (though I know some of them would argue that). It's oft said that the more culturally similar two peoples are, the more they hate each other's little differences.
I've read some shite on this board and that's up there. Just to clarify, with that list you are referring to us Nordies yes?
Only Burdy left banging the idiotic nazifascist drum now.
And making a bigger eejit of himself by the day.
People being told that the 'foreigners' will be coming out to counter march.. stoking the fires
Belfast City Centre looks like some craic...
A "Coolock says no " banner among the EDL filth in Belfast today.
Maybe the "Super Patriots(sic) might explain to the thousands of relatives of those murdered by the UVF, UDA etc etc why they are joining with those murdering scum.
Birds of a feather.....m
Not welcome. Send them back to their own country
They have somehow made their way to the Holylands.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2024, 10:44:54 AMOnly Burdy left banging the idiotic nazifascist drum now.
And making a bigger eejit of himself by the day.
Its a difficult task to be continually more stupid than he was the previous day but it's a task he's taken to with gusto.
And is succeeding admirably ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2024, 04:00:21 PMA "Coolock says no " banner among the EDL filth in Belfast today.
Maybe the "Super Patriots(sic) might explain to the thousands of relatives of those murdered by the UVF, UDA etc etc why they are joining with those murdering scum.
Birds of a feather.....m
Absolute scum, the dregs of society.
Things have changed somehow.
Armoured land rovers facing a mob wielding union jacks and tricolours in Belfast, in the same week as police in regular cars drive around Camlough waving Armagh flags. The country is coped.
Interesting to hear Mick Lynch calling for the unions to unite and lead the charge against the far right.
Quite right too.
Yet a lot of this anti-migrant hatred has been fueled by Brexit and the lies of the Brexiteers. Which he and some unions like NIPSA supported. I really struggle with this.
https://x.com/TVconormac/status/1819704559851143613?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1819704559851143613%7Ctwgr%5Eb24c6269159e48030a6fbb42816b61cc49e2b9b1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rte.ie%2Fnews%2F2024%2F0803%2F1463328-psni-riot-officers-deployed-for-belfast-protests%2F
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2024, 07:09:56 PMhttps://x.com/TVconormac/status/1819704559851143613?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1819704559851143613%7Ctwgr%5Eb24c6269159e48030a6fbb42816b61cc49e2b9b1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rte.ie%2Fnews%2F2024%2F0803%2F1463328-psni-riot-officers-deployed-for-belfast-protests%2F
Looks like the counter protest outnumbered the right wingers.
Nigel farage to Tommy Robinson to crazy immigration policy to ignorance.
All take a bow
The worlds gone ape sh.t
Well done Lower Ormeau residents who halted the scum.
PSNI please copy.
The people bringing the tricolour onto a fascist right wing parade with a bunch of anti Irish loyalist scum are surely among the most stupid people the country has ever produced. How do they even go home and face their neighbours. Utter scum.
Mate was saying they were chanting paedo lovers!! To the anti fascists ;D
Read on Twitter that some of the Irish "patriots" were holding up 5 fingers passing Sean Graham's. Those c***ts should be rerouted at the border to a nice quiet part of Ravensdale.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2024, 09:10:45 PMWell done Lower Ormeau residents who halted the scum.
PSNI please copy.
I read on RTE that the Ormeau Rd residents
comforted the racists protestors, I thought wtf?? but on a reread it was actually reported that Ormeau residents
confronted the racist scum. Phew!!
The only response to these racists is cracking skulls, whether by baton or by hobnail boot. There's no facility for dialogue, just pummel the racists into the tarmac, with or without their flag of choice
Let's be honest here. There is a mob that think this is great sport.
Associating ideologies to them gives them too much credit, but the lads stirring the pot do have a plan.
For the Dublin riots Prime Time did a timeline and you could teach the socials to rally.
I'm sure it's all our in the open on the platforms in advance so I find it so bad that the police are always caught off guard.
Just read a BBC article about yesterday's protests/riots by the far right.
A sample of things that was targeted:
A Shoezone shop.
A library.
A Citizen's Advice office.
Give us strength.
Quote from: marty34 on August 04, 2024, 08:30:03 AMJust read a BBC article about yesterday's protests/riots by the far right.
A sample of things that was targeted:
A Shoezone shop.
A library.
A Citizen's Advice office.
Give us strength.
A library would have confused them as they won't have seen one before.
Is it possible the loyalists found a few flegs they forgot to put on a bonfire and took them out to make it look like there is some sort of unity between the knuckle daggers. I find it very hard to believe anyone from a nationalist background would be out with those vermin.
Quote from: snoopdog on August 04, 2024, 08:56:33 AMIs it possible the loyalists found a few flegs they forgot to put on a bonfire and took them out to make it look like there is some sort of unity between the knuckle daggers. I find it very hard to believe anyone from a nationalist background would be out with those vermin.
I did see a picture with some rat in a Rangers top waving the tricolour, could be on to something here... nah the Coolock crowd are far right fanatics, fascist west Brits so it's only natural that they gravitate towards Ulster Loyalists
Quote from: snoopdog on August 04, 2024, 08:56:33 AMIs it possible the loyalists found a few flegs they forgot to put on a bonfire and took them out to make it look like there is some sort of unity between the knuckle daggers. I find it very hard to believe anyone from a nationalist background would be out with those vermin.
No unfortunately these people are Nazis from the south and being Nazis they gravitate to hate. They are not nationalists, don't care about Ireland or its flag. Main Street is correct, time for the cops to start giving these scum a hammering.
Quote from: general_lee on August 04, 2024, 09:08:22 AMQuote from: snoopdog on August 04, 2024, 08:56:33 AMIs it possible the loyalists found a few flegs they forgot to put on a bonfire and took them out to make it look like there is some sort of unity between the knuckle daggers. I find it very hard to believe anyone from a nationalist background would be out with those vermin.
I did see a picture with some rat in a Rangers top waving the tricolour, could be on to something here... nah the Coolock crowd are far right fanatics, fascist west Brits so it's only natural that they gravitate towards Ulster Loyalists
Wow, you really are amazingly clueless!! How do you equate the Coolock protests with west Brits?!! Your commentary is pathetic, as is the show of farce from many of the spiteful mutants on this board. Actually, it's helped me see that a lot of northern anti-nationalists are just so caught up in their own hatred of unionists that they're prepared to drag down all the foundational peoples of these islands just to get one over on them. I would still be an advocate of a united Ireland, but - f**k them. Hypocrites.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 09:42:51 AMQuote from: general_lee on August 04, 2024, 09:08:22 AMQuote from: snoopdog on August 04, 2024, 08:56:33 AMIs it possible the loyalists found a few flegs they forgot to put on a bonfire and took them out to make it look like there is some sort of unity between the knuckle daggers. I find it very hard to believe anyone from a nationalist background would be out with those vermin.
I did see a picture with some rat in a Rangers top waving the tricolour, could be on to something here... nah the Coolock crowd are far right fanatics, fascist west Brits so it's only natural that they gravitate towards Ulster Loyalists
Wow, you really are amazingly clueless!! How do you equate the Coolock protests with west Brits?!! Your commentary is pathetic, as is the show of farce from many of the spiteful mutants on this board. Actually, it's helped me see that a lot of northern anti-nationalists are just so caught up in their own hatred of unionists that they're prepared to drag down all the foundational peoples of these islands just to get one over on them. I would still be an advocate of a united Ireland, but - f**k them. Hypocrites.
Clueless? I was in Belfast yesterday, were you?
Just have the f**king back bone to admit that far-right fanatics like you gravitate towards other simple-minded c***ts and stop trying to distance the camaraderie wankers like you share with hardline Ulster Loyalists. Good lad.
https://x.com/sean_murray1/status/1819788248756924806
That's what your up against. There shouting Anti semitic, Anti semitic
While his fellow fascists give Nazi salutes.
Quote from: grounded on August 04, 2024, 10:12:49 AMhttps://x.com/sean_murray1/status/1819788248756924806
That's what your up against. There shouting Anti semitic, Anti semitic
While his fellow fascists give Nazi salutes.
Where were the salutes?!! Ha ha! You're - yes, that's YOU'RE - onto nothing!
Quote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 10:25:36 AMQuote from: grounded on August 04, 2024, 10:12:49 AMhttps://x.com/sean_murray1/status/1819788248756924806
That's what your up against. There shouting Anti semitic, Anti semitic
While his fellow fascists give Nazi salutes.
Where were the salutes?!! Ha ha! You're - yes, that's YOU'RE - onto nothing!
Wankers from Dublin standing side by side with actual Loyalist murderers, waving the butchers apron together and giving Nazi salutes.
Quote from: general_lee on August 04, 2024, 10:01:57 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 09:42:51 AMQuote from: general_lee on August 04, 2024, 09:08:22 AMQuote from: snoopdog on August 04, 2024, 08:56:33 AMIs it possible the loyalists found a few flegs they forgot to put on a bonfire and took them out to make it look like there is some sort of unity between the knuckle daggers. I find it very hard to believe anyone from a nationalist background would be out with those vermin.
I did see a picture with some rat in a Rangers top waving the tricolour, could be on to something here... nah the Coolock crowd are far right fanatics, fascist west Brits so it's only natural that they gravitate towards Ulster Loyalists
Wow, you really are amazingly clueless!! How do you equate the Coolock protests with west Brits?!! Your commentary is pathetic, as is the show of farce from many of the spiteful mutants on this board. Actually, it's helped me see that a lot of northern anti-nationalists are just so caught up in their own hatred of unionists that they're prepared to drag down all the foundational peoples of these islands just to get one over on them. I would still be an advocate of a united Ireland, but - f**k them. Hypocrites.
Clueless? I was in Belfast yesterday, were you?
Just have the f**king back bone to admit that far-right fanatics like you gravitate towards other simple-minded c***ts and stop trying to distance the camaraderie wankers like you share with hardline Ulster Loyalists. Good lad.
Poor kid will never admit that. Thinks he's an Uber Irish nationalist you see.
Quote from: general_lee on August 04, 2024, 10:53:04 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 10:25:36 AMQuote from: grounded on August 04, 2024, 10:12:49 AMhttps://x.com/sean_murray1/status/1819788248756924806
That's what your up against. There shouting Anti semitic, Anti semitic
While his fellow fascists give Nazi salutes.
Where were the salutes?!! Ha ha! You're - yes, that's YOU'RE - onto nothing!
Wankers from Dublin standing side by side with actual Loyalist murderers, waving the butchers apron together and giving Nazi salutes.
Yep the spawn of the same people that orchestrated the Dublin and Monaghan bombing. Brain dead.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 10:25:36 AMQuote from: grounded on August 04, 2024, 10:12:49 AMhttps://x.com/sean_murray1/status/1819788248756924806
That's what your up against. There shouting Anti semitic, Anti semitic
While his fellow fascists give Nazi salutes.
Where were the salutes?!! Ha ha! You're - yes, that's YOU'RE - onto nothing!
https://x.com/michaelmagee__/status/1819864427564315123
They're right there.
Mods, why have certain racist little runts been given free reign on this board for so long?
The ones who were rioting in Belfast yesterday are just as bad as the likes of Itchy who wanted peaceful protesters beaten of the streets by paramilitaries
Quote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 11:48:48 AMThe ones who were rioting in Belfast yesterday are just as bad as the likes of Itchy who wanted peaceful protesters beaten of the streets by paramilitaries
Posting on a discussion board is "just as bad" as burning out a business premises because you don't like the skin colour of its totally innocent, hard working, peaceful owner? Gotcha.
Like I was saying, Mods.
Says it all
https://m.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/dublin-protesters-stand-side-by-side-with-loyalist-sectarian-killer-as-mob-united-in-hate/a626064215.html
I see the polarization that's permeating into every crevice of society is being well represented on this thread.
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 04, 2024, 11:55:52 AMI see the polarization that's permeating into every crevice of society is being well represented on this thread.
Do you want us to be nice and cuddly to hate filled nazifascist rioters?
It is basically a collection of bad f**kers using some excuse to cause trouble. As someone who lives in Belfast it is very worrying. I would hope there would be arrests etc.
Quote from: grounded on August 04, 2024, 11:27:20 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 10:25:36 AMQuote from: grounded on August 04, 2024, 10:12:49 AMhttps://x.com/sean_murray1/status/1819788248756924806
That's what your up against. There shouting Anti semitic, Anti semitic
While his fellow fascists give Nazi salutes.
Where were the salutes?!! Ha ha! You're - yes, that's YOU'RE - onto nothing!
https://x.com/michaelmagee__/status/1819864427564315123
They're right there.
Same lad doing the Nazi salute has a 'less we forget' on his Facebook page no doubt!
Brainless
Quote from: Snapchap on August 04, 2024, 11:48:04 AMMods, why have certain racist little runts been given free reign on this board for so long?
Has anyone said anything racist?
A bit rich the anti-nationalist Shinners from the north calling for censorship, just because they can't come up with anything other than name-calling.
Quote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 11:48:48 AMThe ones who were rioting in Belfast yesterday are just as bad as the likes of Itchy who wanted peaceful protesters beaten of the streets by paramilitaries
Nobody on here is as bad as the fascists and racists on the streets of Belfast yesterday, apart from maybe their spineless cheerleaders.
Quote from: general_lee on August 04, 2024, 12:59:46 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 11:48:48 AMThe ones who were rioting in Belfast yesterday are just as bad as the likes of Itchy who wanted peaceful protesters beaten of the streets by paramilitaries
Nobody on here is as bad as the fascists and racists on the streets of Belfast yesterday, apart from maybe their spineless cheerleaders.
I disagree
According to Itchy (and maybe Rossfan) if you're not in favor of open borders you should be beaten off the streets by the police and/or paramilitaries
Quote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 01:02:24 PMQuote from: general_lee on August 04, 2024, 12:59:46 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 11:48:48 AMThe ones who were rioting in Belfast yesterday are just as bad as the likes of Itchy who wanted peaceful protesters beaten of the streets by paramilitaries
Nobody on here is as bad as the fascists and racists on the streets of Belfast yesterday, apart from maybe their spineless cheerleaders.
I disagree
According to Itchy (and maybe Rossfan) if you're not in favor of open borders you should be beaten off the streets by the police and/or paramilitaries
I never mentioned the word paramilitaries you stupid f**k.in fact I said cops. This is why people like you support nazi scum because you are equally as brain dead as them, demonstrated by an inability to read and comprehend on here. And yes the cops should batter these bastards back into the sewer where they belong.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 12:50:27 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 04, 2024, 11:48:04 AMMods, why have certain racist little runts been given free reign on this board for so long?
Has anyone said anything racist?
A bit rich the anti-nationalist Shinners from the north calling for censorship, just because they can't come up with anything other than name-calling.
Your GAA Club in Laois is very progressive and open minded towards all new members regardless of colour or creed
I wonder what they would think if they were shown a sample of your posts on here ?
Quote from: clonadmad on August 04, 2024, 01:19:30 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 12:50:27 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 04, 2024, 11:48:04 AMMods, why have certain racist little runts been given free reign on this board for so long?
Has anyone said anything racist?
A bit rich the anti-nationalist Shinners from the north calling for censorship, just because they can't come up with anything other than name-calling.
Your GAA Club in Laois is very progressive and open minded towards all new members regardless of colour or creed
I wonder what they would think if they were shown a sample of your posts on here ?
Sure it the fault of those blacks in his club that he's not getting his place on the team.
Quote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 01:19:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 01:02:24 PMQuote from: general_lee on August 04, 2024, 12:59:46 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 11:48:48 AMThe ones who were rioting in Belfast yesterday are just as bad as the likes of Itchy who wanted peaceful protesters beaten of the streets by paramilitaries
Nobody on here is as bad as the fascists and racists on the streets of Belfast yesterday, apart from maybe their spineless cheerleaders.
I disagree
According to Itchy (and maybe Rossfan) if you're not in favor of open borders you should be beaten off the streets by the police and/or paramilitaries
I never mentioned the word paramilitaries you stupid f**k.in fact I said cops. This is why people like you support nazi scum because you are equally as brain dead as them, demonstrated by an inability to read and comprehend on here. And yes the cops should batter these bastards back into the sewer where they belong.
So salt of the earth people from rural Ireland peacefully protesting an IPAS center being foisted in them without consultation
are bastards who should be battered back into the sewer where they belong.I think you just made my point for me
This is how braindead Whitey replies to almost every post
"So, what your saying is..[enter a load of nonsense that was in fact not said]"
We are in a precarious situation. It's one thing getting exposed to other cultures. Which most of us see as a positive. I can list Hundreds of positive examples. The issue is scale that this is happening at, the demographic which is predominately male and many that are extremely different in culture. We are heading for ghetto's in already disadvantaged areas. The present situation will cause polarisation, fear and further drive far right ideology.
We have a small population and this is getting diluted rapidly.
There should always be room for letting people in on a proportional and controlled scale. But the scale of this is irresponsible. Do we not care to maintain a dominance of the Irish culture, tradition and DNA?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 01:40:56 PMWe are in a precarious situation. It's one thing getting exposed to other cultures. Which most of us see as a positive. I can list Hundreds of positive examples. The issue is scale that this is happening at, the demographic which is predominately male and many that are extremely different in culture. We are heading for ghetto's in already disadvantaged areas. The present situation will cause polarisation, fear and further drive far right ideology.
We have a small population and this is getting diluted rapidly.
There should always be room for letting people in on a proportional and controlled scale. But the scale of this is irresponsible. Do we not care to maintain a dominance of the Irish culture, tradition and DNA?
Exactly. We shouldn't be throwing away the keys of the kingdom.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 01:40:56 PMWe are in a precarious situation. It's one thing getting exposed to other cultures. Which most of us see as a positive. I can list Hundreds of positive examples. The issue is scale that this is happening at, the demographic which is predominately male and many that are extremely different in culture. We are heading for ghetto's in already disadvantaged areas. The present situation will cause polarisation, fear and further drive far right ideology.
We have a small population and this is getting diluted rapidly.
There should always be room for letting people in on a proportional and controlled scale. But the scale of this is irresponsible. Do we not care to maintain a dominance of the Irish culture, tradition and DNA?
I have to say it's very sad to read the language in this post. You are correct, Ireland is in a precarious situation when normally right minded people start using language like "Irish DNA"
I believe you are from Mayo. You'd be familiar with Nephin then where a caver found bones. The bones dated back 6500 years old and when a dna test was done the could tell the people the bones belonged to were brown eyed and brown skinned. Have a think about it. We are all made from 1000s of years of diversity. I do agree ghettos are something that needs to be avoided all costs. That is avoided by good integration into our society in which our sports clubs have a massive part to play. Put your energy into helping that, not spouting rubbish about Irish dna.
Quote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 02:01:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 01:40:56 PMWe are in a precarious situation. It's one thing getting exposed to other cultures. Which most of us see as a positive. I can list Hundreds of positive examples. The issue is scale that this is happening at, the demographic which is predominately male and many that are extremely different in culture. We are heading for ghetto's in already disadvantaged areas. The present situation will cause polarisation, fear and further drive far right ideology.
We have a small population and this is getting diluted rapidly.
There should always be room for letting people in on a proportional and controlled scale. But the scale of this is irresponsible. Do we not care to maintain a dominance of the Irish culture, tradition and DNA?
I have to say it's very sad to read the language in this post. You are correct, Ireland is in a precarious situation when normally right minded people start using language like "Irish DNA"
I believe you are from Mayo. You'd be familiar with Nephin then where a caver found bones. The bones dated back 6500 years old and when a dna test was done the could tell the people the bones belonged to were brown eyed and brown skinned. Have a think about it. We are all made from 1000s of years of diversity. I do agree ghettos are something that needs to be avoided all costs. That is avoided by good integration into our society in which our sports clubs have a massive part to play. Put your energy into helping that, not spouting rubbish about Irish dna.
Let me paraphrase this post
"I'm in favor of open borders, and if you disagree with me you're a racist"
Quote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 02:01:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 01:40:56 PMWe are in a precarious situation. It's one thing getting exposed to other cultures. Which most of us see as a positive. I can list Hundreds of positive examples. The issue is scale that this is happening at, the demographic which is predominately male and many that are extremely different in culture. We are heading for ghetto's in already disadvantaged areas. The present situation will cause polarisation, fear and further drive far right ideology.
We have a small population and this is getting diluted rapidly.
There should always be room for letting people in on a proportional and controlled scale. But the scale of this is irresponsible. Do we not care to maintain a dominance of the Irish culture, tradition and DNA?
I have to say it's very sad to read the language in this post. You are correct, Ireland is in a precarious situation when normally right minded people start using language like "Irish DNA"
I believe you are from Mayo. You'd be familiar with Nephin then where a caver found bones. The bones dated back 6500 years old and when a dna test was done the could tell the people the bones belonged to were brown eyed and brown skinned. Have a think about it. We are all made from 1000s of years of diversity. I do agree ghettos are something that needs to be avoided all costs. That is avoided by good integration into our society in which our sports clubs have a massive part to play. Put your energy into helping that, not spouting rubbish about Irish dna.
Ok the DNA bit is a tad strong. You don't get it. This is a Tsunami. And instead of Controlling the situation we are letting this run out of control.
Integration into society has to be proportional in relation to amenities and infrastructure. Teaching people GAA skills won't do much to remedy that.
I'm not a Racist, but I am a realist.
A question for you Itchy, Give me a figure of the minimum/Maximum you'd allow into this country?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 02:21:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 02:01:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 01:40:56 PMWe are in a precarious situation. It's one thing getting exposed to other cultures. Which most of us see as a positive. I can list Hundreds of positive examples. The issue is scale that this is happening at, the demographic which is predominately male and many that are extremely different in culture. We are heading for ghetto's in already disadvantaged areas. The present situation will cause polarisation, fear and further drive far right ideology.
We have a small population and this is getting diluted rapidly.
There should always be room for letting people in on a proportional and controlled scale. But the scale of this is irresponsible. Do we not care to maintain a dominance of the Irish culture, tradition and DNA?
I have to say it's very sad to read the language in this post. You are correct, Ireland is in a precarious situation when normally right minded people start using language like "Irish DNA"
I believe you are from Mayo. You'd be familiar with Nephin then where a caver found bones. The bones dated back 6500 years old and when a dna test was done the could tell the people the bones belonged to were brown eyed and brown skinned. Have a think about it. We are all made from 1000s of years of diversity. I do agree ghettos are something that needs to be avoided all costs. That is avoided by good integration into our society in which our sports clubs have a massive part to play. Put your energy into helping that, not spouting rubbish about Irish dna.
Ok the DNA bit is a tad strong. You don't get it. This is a Tsunami. And instead of Controlling the situation we are letting this run out of control.
Integration into society has to be proportional in relation to amenities and infrastructure. Teaching people GAA skills won't do much to remedy that.
I'm not a Racist, but I am a realist.
A question for you Itchy, Give me a figure of the minimum/Maximum you'd allow into this country?
You give me the figure, your the one putting numbers on it. You say its a tsunami, give me the figures you are basing it on. If you don't have figures then please explain where and how you have witnessed this Tsunami. I am living in Mayo these days, I see no evidence of a tsunami.
What I see where I live is a who's who of the most useless dregs of society out "protesting". At a local protest I saw the local drug dealer who has been in jail for selling drugs to kids, a fella I know who has sued every company he has worked for for injuries, a bunch of people who have never worked in their lives. They are not interested in finding a solution, they are interested in hate and division. And against all the odds these people are dragging normal people into their way of thinking. Its like the start of Nazism again, anyone who has read a history book on the situation can see that.
You might also find this informative
https://euaa.europa.eu/latest-asylum-trends-asylum#:~:text=In%20May%202024%2C%20Ireland%2C%20with,application%20for%20every%202%2C600%20inhabitants.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 12:50:27 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 04, 2024, 11:48:04 AMMods, why have certain racist little runts been given free reign on this board for so long?
Has anyone said anything racist?
A bit rich the anti-nationalist Shinners from the north calling for censorship, just because they can't come up with anything other than name-calling.
Stop trying to engage with me, racist.
Quote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 02:31:29 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 02:21:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 02:01:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 01:40:56 PMWe are in a precarious situation. It's one thing getting exposed to other cultures. Which most of us see as a positive. I can list Hundreds of positive examples. The issue is scale that this is happening at, the demographic which is predominately male and many that are extremely different in culture. We are heading for ghetto's in already disadvantaged areas. The present situation will cause polarisation, fear and further drive far right ideology.
We have a small population and this is getting diluted rapidly.
There should always be room for letting people in on a proportional and controlled scale. But the scale of this is irresponsible. Do we not care to maintain a dominance of the Irish culture, tradition and DNA?
I have to say it's very sad to read the language in this post. You are correct, Ireland is in a precarious situation when normally right minded people start using language like "Irish DNA"
I believe you are from Mayo. You'd be familiar with Nephin then where a caver found bones. The bones dated back 6500 years old and when a dna test was done the could tell the people the bones belonged to were brown eyed and brown skinned. Have a think about it. We are all made from 1000s of years of diversity. I do agree ghettos are something that needs to be avoided all costs. That is avoided by good integration into our society in which our sports clubs have a massive part to play. Put your energy into helping that, not spouting rubbish about Irish dna.
Ok the DNA bit is a tad strong. You don't get it. This is a Tsunami. And instead of Controlling the situation we are letting this run out of control.
Integration into society has to be proportional in relation to amenities and infrastructure. Teaching people GAA skills won't do much to remedy that.
I'm not a Racist, but I am a realist.
A question for you Itchy, Give me a figure of the minimum/Maximum you'd allow into this country?
You give me the figure, your the one putting numbers on it. You say its a tsunami, give me the figures you are basing it on. If you don't have figures then please explain where and how you have witnessed this Tsunami. I am living in Mayo these days, I see no evidence of a tsunami.
What I see where I live is a who's who of the most useless dregs of society out "protesting". At a local protest I saw the local drug dealer who has been in jail for selling drugs to kids, a fella I know who has sued every company he has worked for for injuries, a bunch of people who have never worked in their lives. They are not interested in finding a solution, they are interested in hate and division. And against all the odds these people are dragging normal people into their way of thinking. Its like the start of Nazism again, anyone who has read a history book on the situation can see that.
You might also find this informative
https://euaa.europa.eu/latest-asylum-trends-asylum#:~:text=In%20May%202024%2C%20Ireland%2C%20with,application%20for%20every%202%2C600%20inhabitants.
Well Itchy maybe you live in Mayo, but you must have your head stuck in the peaty soil
Listen to what Michael Ring to say on the matter-a TD who's represented the people of Mayo for 30 years.
Is he a racist and bigot?
https://youtu.be/_5i3lAYIPbc?si=N4nsvWG1Wixke-wk
Quote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 01:59:20 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 01:40:56 PMWe are in a precarious situation. It's one thing getting exposed to other cultures. Which most of us see as a positive. I can list Hundreds of positive examples. The issue is scale that this is happening at, the demographic which is predominately male and many that are extremely different in culture. We are heading for ghetto's in already disadvantaged areas. The present situation will cause polarisation, fear and further drive far right ideology.
We have a small population and this is getting diluted rapidly.
There should always be room for letting people in on a proportional and controlled scale. But the scale of this is irresponsible. Do we not care to maintain a dominance of the Irish culture, tradition and DNA?
Exactly. We shouldn't be throwing away the keys of the kingdom.
This is Nazi level stuff. Hitler lived in a bunker too.
ah Jesus lads. Take a chill pill. And feck off with the Nazi name calling. I am not against immigrants. I am against too many immigrants - and we are getting too many Immigrants into this country.
So feck off with the Racist, Nazi, Far Right - name calling. Because I am none of them. I am a civilian of the Republic of Ireland who is concerned by actions taken and not taken to maintain a stable country in which we live in.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 04:04:13 PMah Jesus lads. Take a chill pill. And feck off with the Nazi name calling. I am not against immigrants. I am against too many immigrants - and we are getting too many Immigrants into this country.
So feck off with the Racist, Nazi, Far Right - name calling. Because I am none of them. I am a civilian of the Republic of Ireland who is concerned by actions taken and not taken to maintain a stable country in which we live in.
That's fair. On here if you don't agree with these lads you are extreme left or extreme right.
Quote from: Snapchap on August 04, 2024, 03:22:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 12:50:27 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 04, 2024, 11:48:04 AMMods, why have certain racist little runts been given free reign on this board for so long?
Has anyone said anything racist?
A bit rich the anti-nationalist Shinners from the north calling for censorship, just because they can't come up with anything other than name-calling.
Stop trying to engage with me, racist.
Ha ha! Truth hurts, eh? Call me names away; you have no argument.
The title of the thread us "far right"
If ye want a thread dedicated to immigration then start one.
As for "Too many immigrants"
How many is the right amount?
Who gets to qualify?
Do we have to leave the CTA and EU?
Do we leave thousands of Jobs unfilled?
De we deliberately reduce the economy to keep foreigners away?
Anyone reading this would think the place is like a scene from World War Z!!
I'll say this, anyone that supports the racist chats that bellowed out in Belfast yesterday with the salutes needs to really look at themselves.
Guilty be association
The West Belfast Feile parade was going on at the same time. The Falls park was full of young and old enjoying the 80's music night, while loyalist thugs continue to drag this place back to the Middle Ages
Quote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2024, 04:30:15 PMThe title of the thread us "far right"
If ye want a thread dedicated to immigration then start one.
As for "Too many immigrants"
How many is the right amount?
Who gets to qualify?
Do we have to leave the CTA and EU?
Do we leave thousands of Jobs unfilled?
De we deliberately reduce the economy to keep foreigners away?
LOL-so a country should have no right to determine how much inward migration they have?
Sounds kinda like you're proposing open borders to me
If 10,000,000 migrants want to come to Ireland should all they be accommodated?
Quote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 01:32:42 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 01:19:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 01:02:24 PMQuote from: general_lee on August 04, 2024, 12:59:46 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 11:48:48 AMThe ones who were rioting in Belfast yesterday are just as bad as the likes of Itchy who wanted peaceful protesters beaten of the streets by paramilitaries
Nobody on here is as bad as the fascists and racists on the streets of Belfast yesterday, apart from maybe their spineless cheerleaders.
I disagree
According to Itchy (and maybe Rossfan) if you're not in favor of open borders you should be beaten off the streets by the police and/or paramilitaries
I never mentioned the word paramilitaries you stupid f**k.in fact I said cops. This is why people like you support nazi scum because you are equally as brain dead as them, demonstrated by an inability to read and comprehend on here. And yes the cops should batter these bastards back into the sewer where they belong.
So salt of the earth people from rural Ireland peacefully protesting an IPAS center being foisted in them without consultation are bastards who should be battered back into the sewer where they belong.
I think you just made my point for me
Did anyone saying people protesting peacefully should be beaten of the streets? They've legitimate concerns and have every right to peaceful protest, but if you find yourself out rioting with pricks like Tommy Robinson fans waving Union Jacks you'd want to have a look at yourself.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 04, 2024, 05:00:10 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 01:32:42 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 01:19:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 01:02:24 PMQuote from: general_lee on August 04, 2024, 12:59:46 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 11:48:48 AMThe ones who were rioting in Belfast yesterday are just as bad as the likes of Itchy who wanted peaceful protesters beaten of the streets by paramilitaries
Nobody on here is as bad as the fascists and racists on the streets of Belfast yesterday, apart from maybe their spineless cheerleaders.
I disagree
According to Itchy (and maybe Rossfan) if you're not in favor of open borders you should be beaten off the streets by the police and/or paramilitaries
I never mentioned the word paramilitaries you stupid f**k.in fact I said cops. This is why people like you support nazi scum because you are equally as brain dead as them, demonstrated by an inability to read and comprehend on here. And yes the cops should batter these bastards back into the sewer where they belong.
So salt of the earth people from rural Ireland peacefully protesting an IPAS center being foisted in them without consultation are bastards who should be battered back into the sewer where they belong.
I think you just made my point for me
Did anyone saying people protesting peacefully should be beaten of the streets? They've legitimate concerns and have every right to peaceful protest, but if you find yourself out rioting with pricks like Tommy Robinson fans waving Union Jacks you'd want to have a look at yourself.
Yes-Itchy said that anyone protesting an IPAS Center should be battered off the street!
Go back and check the tape
Main Street advocated the same thing.
There is a very nefarious element behind these protests - probably global as well - and it is quite worrying tbh. I am not sure how it is stopped. A lot of the people causing the trouble would cause trouble for most "causes" (based on the Belfast lot). Something needs done about it to make sure it isn't a regular thing and doesn't become the norm. There has always definitely been an undercurrent of racism in certain communities in Belfast. This kind of thing allows them to bring it to the fore.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2024, 05:15:09 PMThere is a very nefarious element behind these protests - probably global as well - and it is quite worrying tbh. I am not sure how it is stopped. A lot of the people causing the trouble would cause trouble for most "causes" (based on the Belfast lot). Something needs done about it to make sure it isn't a regular thing and doesn't become the norm. There has always definitely been an undercurrent of racism in certain communities in Belfast. This kind of thing allows them to bring it to the fore.
By certain communities you mean loyalists. Until people start getting locked up and losing jobs (if they have them!) what is the incentive for them to stop. Short of that the police need to get heavy handed with them instead of trying to "manage" situations.
I would hope they do like the flag protests and they basically manage it while filming it then pick them all up bit by bit.
I heard that in Bangor shops were visited by local hoods (with connections )and told to shut down then the line was businesses were supporting the protests.
Quote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 04:54:16 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2024, 04:30:15 PMThe title of the thread us "far right"
If ye want a thread dedicated to immigration then start one.
As for "Too many immigrants"
How many is the right amount?
Who gets to qualify?
Do we have to leave the CTA and EU?
Do we leave thousands of Jobs unfilled?
De we deliberately reduce the economy to keep foreigners away?
LOL-so a country should have no right to determine how much inward migration they have?
Sounds kinda like you're proposing open borders to me
If 10,000,000 migrants want to come to Ireland should all they be accommodated?
You love that nonsense phrase 'open borders' don't you
Sure they know who the main lads are and just seem to let them off.
The tactic clearly isn't working but there is no desire to change it up.
The Police are afraid of them to be honest.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2024, 04:04:13 PMah Jesus lads. Take a chill pill. And feck off with the Nazi name calling. I am not against immigrants. I am against too many immigrants - and we are getting too many Immigrants into this country.
So feck off with the Racist, Nazi, Far Right - name calling. Because I am none of them. I am a civilian of the Republic of Ireland who is concerned by actions taken and not taken to maintain a stable country in which we live in.
When you going to tell us how you determined that we are facing a tsunami of emigration. You see far right throw around these daft statements but I'm giving you an opportunity to qualify it.
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 04, 2024, 05:37:27 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 04:54:16 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2024, 04:30:15 PMThe title of the thread us "far right"
If ye want a thread dedicated to immigration then start one.
As for "Too many immigrants"
How many is the right amount?
Who gets to qualify?
Do we have to leave the CTA and EU?
Do we leave thousands of Jobs unfilled?
De we deliberately reduce the economy to keep foreigners away?
LOL-so a country should have no right to determine how much inward migration they have?
Sounds kinda like you're proposing open borders to me
If 10,000,000 migrants want to come to Ireland should all they be accommodated?
You love that nonsense phrase 'open borders' don't you
What's not to love when it's an accurate description of someone's position?
Quote from: theskull1 on August 02, 2024, 07:27:32 AMPlenty of hand wringing going on and not much else
The media are heavily pushing a one side all bad other side all good narrative. The police 'can' make any protest 'violent' if they want to.
This mass immigration thing is not natural and we're seeing (unintended/intended?) consequences play out. Government right across the west don't want to listen.
Another apologist for nazifascist violence, rioting, burning businesses etc.
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 06:13:17 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 02, 2024, 07:27:32 AMPlenty of hand wringing going on and not much else
The media are heavily pushing a one side all bad other side all good narrative. The police 'can' make any protest 'violent' if they want to.
This mass immigration thing is not natural and we're seeing (unintended/intended?) consequences play out. Government right across the west don't want to listen.
By "unintended/intended" do you mean you haven't quite figured out what the deep state are up to yet?
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 06:13:17 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 02, 2024, 07:27:32 AMPlenty of hand wringing going on and not much else
The media are heavily pushing a one side all bad other side all good narrative. The police 'can' make any protest 'violent' if they want to.
This mass immigration thing is not natural and we're seeing (unintended/intended?) consequences play out. Government right across the west don't want to listen.
It's actually perfectly natural. Humans have been migrating since they were able to nearly 90,000 years ago. Drawing lines in the road and separating them is not natural if you want to be pedantic.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 04, 2024, 08:01:32 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 06:13:17 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 02, 2024, 07:27:32 AMPlenty of hand wringing going on and not much else
The media are heavily pushing a one side all bad other side all good narrative. The police 'can' make any protest 'violent' if they want to.
This mass immigration thing is not natural and we're seeing (unintended/intended?) consequences play out. Government right across the west don't want to listen.
It's actually perfectly natural. Humans have been migrating since they were able to nearly 90,000 years ago. Drawing lines in the road and separating them is not natural if you want to be pedantic.
Well, if you want to be really pedantic, it was always perfectly natural for groups of humans to protect their own territories and resources. Of course migrations happened, but they were usually invasions that were resisted. It's the same with many species of animal, as well.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 08:26:38 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 04, 2024, 08:01:32 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 06:13:17 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 02, 2024, 07:27:32 AMPlenty of hand wringing going on and not much else
The media are heavily pushing a one side all bad other side all good narrative. The police 'can' make any protest 'violent' if they want to.
This mass immigration thing is not natural and we're seeing (unintended/intended?) consequences play out. Government right across the west don't want to listen.
It's actually perfectly natural. Humans have been migrating since they were able to nearly 90,000 years ago. Drawing lines in the road and separating them is not natural if you want to be pedantic.
Well, if you want to be really pedantic, it was always perfectly natural for groups of humans to protect their own territories and resources. Of course migrations happened, but they were usually invasions that were resisted. It's the same with many species of animal, as well.
No dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.
I'm struggling to understand why it was ok for 'us' to migrate around the world but f**k that if anyone comes here and 'diluted' our DNA
Migration and mass migration are different things as I'm sure you well know. Whats happening at the minute (i.e. this MASS migration of unskilled people) is not normal IMO.
Tell me why it feels normal to you and how, as a country, Ireland will benefit from all this discontent?
Sell it to me.
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 08:39:43 PMMigration and mass migration are different things as I'm sure you well know. Whats happening at the minute (i.e. this MASS migration of unskilled people) is not normal IMO.
Tell me why it feels normal to you and how, as a country, Ireland will benefit from all this discontent?
Sell it to me.
Disappointed to read this. Where you get the data that theyre unskilled? Maybe you could sell it to me what mass migration of Irish unskilled did for America.
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 08:39:43 PMMigration and mass migration are different things as I'm sure you well know. Whats happening at the minute (i.e. this MASS migration of unskilled people) is not normal IMO.
Tell me why it feels normal to you and how, as a country, Ireland will benefit from all this discontent?
Sell it to me.
Give me the figures for Ireland as a whole.
I don't want the word mass used.
There are 5.2 million Irish people on the island by the way.
Bigger population brings a bigger economy. Plenty jobs here, get the process working better, get the illegals out process the ones better and send them back. I don't see negatives only potential.
Are you threaten? Have you lost your way of life? Tell me what have you lost?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 08:32:18 PMNo dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.
I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Standard signs??!! You'd believe any old myth. These signs were very rare, if they ever existed at all. There's even some doubt over whether the only known photo of one of them was genuine or not.
They existed alright.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 08:54:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 08:32:18 PMNo dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.
I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Standard signs??!! You'd believe any old myth. These signs were very rare, if they ever existed at all. There's even some doubt over whether the only known photo of one of them was genuine or not.
Do yourself a favour and just google that line.
Ah feck it
https://eachother.org.uk/racism-1960s-britain/
Save you the bother
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 09:00:13 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 08:54:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 08:32:18 PMNo dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.
I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Standard signs??!! You'd believe any old myth. These signs were very rare, if they ever existed at all. There's even some doubt over whether the only known photo of one of them was genuine or not.
Do yourself a favour and just google that line.
Ah feck it
https://eachother.org.uk/racism-1960s-britain/
Save you the bother
Look he's just showing a bit of loyalty to his racist friends in England, playing it down.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 08:46:08 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 08:39:43 PMMigration and mass migration are different things as I'm sure you well know. Whats happening at the minute (i.e. this MASS migration of unskilled people) is not normal IMO.
Tell me why it feels normal to you and how, as a country, Ireland will benefit from all this discontent?
Sell it to me.
Give me the figures for Ireland as a whole.
I don't want the word mass used.
There are 5.2 million Irish people on the island by the way.
Bigger population brings a bigger economy. Plenty jobs here, get the process working better, get the illegals out process the ones better and send them back. I don't see negatives only potential.
Are you threaten? Have you lost your way of life? Tell me what have you lost?
Ah, so that's what it's about - keeping the profits going for big multinational corporations, eh? (Actually, it is.) Funny how the left is so concerned about them. Yes, a growing economy requires a growing population, but it's like growing a tree in a flower-pot - there will come a bursting point. Anyway, is it all about the corporations? Shouldn't we have a cohesive society, a sense of togetherness, purpose, even? Surely, as a northerner, you'd be well placed to see how rival groups can be at each others' throats. It's not totally healthy. Why do you want even more fragmentation - 'Balkanisation', they call it - in this country. It's happening in a lot of western Europe, and it'll happen here, too. The old slogan, 'divide and conquer', I'm sure you're familiar with that? Interesting. More houses to house the world - but sure, we really care about the environment. Import more and more people from intolerant cultures - but sure, we're all for LGBT and women's rights. Yeah, as I said before, they don't want to be like us.
Perhaps in the long run it'll be for the best; we can all live in our concrete jungles, in our own little rival ghettoes, or else we'll be completely atomised and controlled by an over-arching state. Either way is dystopia.
Evolution has taught humans by default to get freaked out by societal change.
100 young male immigrants housed in accommodation on your doorstep would put you and your wife just a little bit more on tilt than you're willing to admit.
On the economic front ... I don't see the Celtic Tiger demands at the moment that would strengthen our economy at the moment.
And when there was 'significant' noticeable migration during the Celtic Tiger years, why didn't it look like what is happening now?
Something very different happening currently. This migration is being driven on a large scale by well funded organisations rather than individuals making their own decisions to migrate.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 09:00:13 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 08:54:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 08:32:18 PMNo dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.
I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Standard signs??!! You'd believe any old myth. These signs were very rare, if they ever existed at all. There's even some doubt over whether the only known photo of one of them was genuine or not.
Do yourself a favour and just google that line.
Ah feck it
https://eachother.org.uk/racism-1960s-britain/
Save you the bother
I hate posting links, but - feck it.
https://www.irishpost.com/life-style/infamous-no-irish-no-blacks-no-dogs-signs-may-never-have-existed-racist-xenophobic-148416
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 09:22:15 PMEvolution has taught humans by default to get freaked out by societal change.
100 young male immigrants housed in accommodation on your doorstep would put you and your wife just a little bit more on tilt than you're willing to admit.
On the economic front ... I don't see the Celtic Tiger demands at the moment that would strengthen our economy at the moment.
And when there was 'significant' noticeable migration during the Celtic Tiger years, why didn't it look like what is happening now?
Something very different happening currently. This migration is being driven on a large scale by well funded organisations rather than individuals making their own decisions to migrate.
For what it's worth I don't think they should be packed into a building in 100s regardless of what sex they are. Should be smaller numbers in more places to improve integration. That said I don't think 100 refugees are all rapists and murderers just because they are black or Muslim or men or all three.
Jesus Christ :o
"That said I don't think 100 refugees are all rapists and murderers just because they are black or Muslim or men or all three."
Try your best to take to best interpretation of what is being communicated in these discussions and then we'll not be talking past each other.
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 09:31:38 PMJesus Christ :o
"That said I don't think 100 refugees are all rapists and murderers just because they are black or Muslim or men or all three."
Try your best to take to best interpretation of what is being communicated in these discussions and then we'll not be talking past each other.
Ok why should me and my wife be a little bit of tilt as you say if 100 refugees are put up in a building in my town?
The far right say they should be vetted. What's your issue with them. It must be something to do with them being men since you brought that up.
Before I answer (and I will) ... are you telling me that you personally can't think of any reasons why you might be uneasy in that scenario?
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 09:53:33 PMBefore I answer (and I will) ... are you telling me that you personally can't think of any reasons why you might be uneasy in that scenario?
Well this might surprise you but there are 100 refugees in the small town I live in. 75 or so Ukrainians and 25 north Africans. And no I didn't bat an eyelid. I'm involved in soccer and gaa and I went into both facilities and asked them to come and sign up. Many did. There were no protests, no racists spouting shite and no one that I noticed put of tilt. Half of the people are male I expect so I'm curious what would happen that would be so different if they were all male.
The only issues have been the lack of support for the schools in terms of help with language issues but the people involved got on with it as best they could and resisted the urge to petrol bomb the 2 hotels.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 09:23:07 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 09:00:13 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 08:54:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 08:32:18 PMNo dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.
I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Standard signs??!! You'd believe any old myth. These signs were very rare, if they ever existed at all. There's even some doubt over whether the only known photo of one of them was genuine or not.
Do yourself a favour and just google that line.
Ah feck it
https://eachother.org.uk/racism-1960s-britain/
Save you the bother
I hate posting links, but - feck it.
https://www.irishpost.com/life-style/infamous-no-irish-no-blacks-no-dogs-signs-may-never-have-existed-racist-xenophobic-148416
"We had no reason to doubt the authenticity of the image and that the archive had received it in good faith.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 10:06:07 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 09:23:07 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 09:00:13 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 04, 2024, 08:54:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 08:32:18 PMNo dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.
I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Standard signs??!! You'd believe any old myth. These signs were very rare, if they ever existed at all. There's even some doubt over whether the only known photo of one of them was genuine or not.
Do yourself a favour and just google that line.
Ah feck it
https://eachother.org.uk/racism-1960s-britain/
Save you the bother
I hate posting links, but - feck it.
https://www.irishpost.com/life-style/infamous-no-irish-no-blacks-no-dogs-signs-may-never-have-existed-racist-xenophobic-148416
"We had no reason to doubt the authenticity of the image and that the archive had received it in good faith.
As I said, not 'standard' as you claimed.
So Itchy....
What %age are in families?
Whats the number of young adults not in families?
Do you think these are irrelevant questions?
Quote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 10:02:19 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 09:53:33 PMBefore I answer (and I will) ... are you telling me that you personally can't think of any reasons why you might be uneasy in that scenario?
Well this might surprise you but there are 100 refugees in the small town I live in. 75 or so Ukrainians and 25 north Africans. And no I didn't bat an eyelid. I'm involved in soccer and gaa and I went into both facilities and asked them to come and sign up. Many did. There were no protests, no racists spouting shite and no one that I noticed put of tilt. Half of the people are male I expect so I'm curious what would happen that would be so different if they were all male.
The only issues have been the lack of support for the schools in terms of help with language issues but the people involved got on with it as best they could and resisted the urge to petrol bomb the 2 hotels.
In other words normal decent people acting as normal decent people do.
Most people are normal and decent.
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 10:16:44 PMSo Itchy....
What %age are in families?
Whats the number of young adults not in families?
Do you think these are irrelevant questions?
All irrelevant. I know people who went to Christian brother schools, 500 boys and no girls. I suppose very few blacks or Muslims but maybe you can tell me if that's what worries you, colour and religion. You said you were going to answer a few posts back yet all you are doing is me new questions. I'm keen to understand should we avoid men dominated locations, like football matches, or is there something else (an elephant in the room?)
Quote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2024, 10:19:05 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 10:02:19 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 09:53:33 PMBefore I answer (and I will) ... are you telling me that you personally can't think of any reasons why you might be uneasy in that scenario?
Well this might surprise you but there are 100 refugees in the small town I live in. 75 or so Ukrainians and 25 north Africans. And no I didn't bat an eyelid. I'm involved in soccer and gaa and I went into both facilities and asked them to come and sign up. Many did. There were no protests, no racists spouting shite and no one that I noticed put of tilt. Half of the people are male I expect so I'm curious what would happen that would be so different if they were all male.
The only issues have been the lack of support for the schools in terms of help with language issues but the people involved got on with it as best they could and resisted the urge to petrol bomb the 2 hotels.
In other words normal decent people acting as normal decent people do.
Most people are normal and decent.
I know. Most people want tighter curbs on immigration.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2024, 10:19:05 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 10:02:19 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 09:53:33 PMBefore I answer (and I will) ... are you telling me that you personally can't think of any reasons why you might be uneasy in that scenario?
Well this might surprise you but there are 100 refugees in the small town I live in. 75 or so Ukrainians and 25 north Africans. And no I didn't bat an eyelid. I'm involved in soccer and gaa and I went into both facilities and asked them to come and sign up. Many did. There were no protests, no racists spouting shite and no one that I noticed put of tilt. Half of the people are male I expect so I'm curious what would happen that would be so different if they were all male.
The only issues have been the lack of support for the schools in terms of help with language issues but the people involved got on with it as best they could and resisted the urge to petrol bomb the 2 hotels.
In other words normal decent people acting as normal decent people do.
Most people are normal and decent.
Yes they are thankfully. I look forward tomorrow to see the daughter of Nigerian emigrants represent her country, a proud Irish woman, and I really hope she wins to sicken every one the far right scum.
So Itchy
Is there a maximum number of newcomers that can be accommodated or should everyone who shows up be admitted?
100 young men arriving into a facility in a small town would have a lot of protective mammies and daddies with daughters on tilt. They might have nothing to worry about but evolutionarily speaking they'd be wise to be on their guard and be concerned that all that testosterone in the one place within any community is bad idea.... but thats all it takes to be a racist these days
Quote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 10:49:33 PMSo Itchy
Is there a maximum number of newcomers that can be accommodated or should everyone who shows up be admitted?
Put up a poll lad, word it any way you want. Then move on
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2024, 10:58:13 PMQuote from: whitey on August 04, 2024, 10:49:33 PMSo Itchy
Is there a maximum number of newcomers that can be accommodated or should everyone who shows up be admitted?
Put up a poll lad, word it any way you want. Then move on
No-let him answer the question (which is entirely reasonable and rational)
Very few people that I know are against migration. They're against unlimited unvetted migration
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 10:57:43 PM100 young men arriving into a facility in a small town would have a lot of protective mammies and daddies with daughters on tilt. They might have nothing to worry about but evolutionarily speaking they'd be wise to be on their guard and be concerned that all that testosterone in the one place within any community is bad idea.... but thats all it takes to be a racist these days
Is it just men or is it black men or Muslim men the mammies and daddies would concerned about?
And please, quoting evolution as a means to excuse this ignorance as if it can't be helped as it's in the dna. Give me a break.
I've just double check to be sure. Testosterone levels are not dependant on a persons religion or skin colour.
Quote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 11:22:59 PMIs it just men or is it black men or Muslim men the mammies and daddies would concerned about?
Clearly people with other social norms are potentially concerning, as noted elsewhere the Dutch are happy to have child rapist on their Olympic team.
But the main point about this people have used methods of evasion or avoidance to enter the country, when other people with more respect for regulations are not able to come here. Hardly desirable company.
USA, Australia,has immigration controls, why not Ireland? Sinn Fein got a poor showing in the elections because they not up with ill feeling on the ground. In my local town alot has changed in the past year, with a local company buying up a no.Of houses, then putting in a large no. Of workers in each house.The problem arose now,of a few teenage girls been hassled for best use of a word. This not immigrants, in with their families, as the Polish would be.This is stacking up alot of men in a very small town.And unfortunately i can see it coming to a head.Female Teenagers have stopped walking the town already due to problems. Anybody pointing out a problem which could arise is deemed a racist. All while the local company makes a cheap killing of cheap labour staff.
Quote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 10:24:33 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2024, 10:19:05 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 10:02:19 PMQuote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2024, 09:53:33 PMBefore I answer (and I will) ... are you telling me that you personally can't think of any reasons why you might be uneasy in that scenario?
Well this might surprise you but there are 100 refugees in the small town I live in. 75 or so Ukrainians and 25 north Africans. And no I didn't bat an eyelid. I'm involved in soccer and gaa and I went into both facilities and asked them to come and sign up. Many did. There were no protests, no racists spouting shite and no one that I noticed put of tilt. Half of the people are male I expect so I'm curious what would happen that would be so different if they were all male.
The only issues have been the lack of support for the schools in terms of help with language issues but the people involved got on with it as best they could and resisted the urge to petrol bomb the 2 hotels.
In other words normal decent people acting as normal decent people do.
Most people are normal and decent.
Yes they are thankfully. I look forward tomorrow to see the daughter of Nigerian emigrants represent her country, a proud Irish woman, and I really hope she wins to sicken every one the far right scum.
Same here and of course our top swimmer a son of English parents, a proud Irishman representing his Country.
The talking past each other and bad faith interpretation of people's arguments is sadly the norm here.
Very decent people have very really concerns that people here (just like the government and the media) don't want to acknowledge. Instead... they're all racists.
GFY
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 04, 2024, 11:50:01 PMUSA, Australia,has immigration controls, why not Ireland? Sinn Fein got a poor showing in the elections because they not up with ill feeling on the ground. In my local town alot has changed in the past year, with a local company buying up a no.Of houses, then putting in a large no. Of workers in each house.The problem arose now,of a few teenage girls been hassled for best use of a word. This not immigrants, in with their families, as the Polish would be.This is stacking up alot of men in a very small town.And unfortunately i can see it coming to a head.Female Teenagers have stopped walking the town already due to problems. Anybody pointing out a problem which could arise is deemed a racist. All while the local company makes a cheap killing of cheap labour staff.
It's the same all over.
Although at least in your town they work....
Quote from: armaghniac on August 04, 2024, 11:37:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 04, 2024, 11:22:59 PMIs it just men or is it black men or Muslim men the mammies and daddies would concerned about?
Clearly people with other social norms are potentially concerning, as noted elsewhere the Dutch are happy to have child rapist on their Olympic team.
But the main point about this people have used methods of evasion or avoidance to enter the country, when other people with more respect for regulations are not able to come here. Hardly desirable company.
Sorry, the point I was debating with skull which he's now ran away from was about why 100 "men" are such a problem if they landed in his town in a refugee ctr. Your comment makes no sense in this context as these 100 refugees have all been granted asylum already by our government if they are set on housing them.
Let me tell you why the 100 men are not wanted. It's because they are black, it because they are Muslim, it's because they are different. Therefore they must be bad, criminals, rapists etc. The type you don't want polluting the local gene pool. You mightnt like being called out for racism but I'm sorry that's what it is.
Few of you are concerned about proper integration of refugees, proper services and help to a community which is the big negative to dropping 100 people into a town. That can be easily sorted by competent authorities.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 04, 2024, 11:50:01 PMUSA, Australia,has immigration controls, why not Ireland? Sinn Fein got a poor showing in the elections because they not up with ill feeling on the ground. In my local town alot has changed in the past year, with a local company buying up a no.Of houses, then putting in a large no. Of workers in each house.The problem arose now,of a few teenage girls been hassled for best use of a word. This not immigrants, in with their families, as the Polish would be.This is stacking up alot of men in a very small town.And unfortunately i can see it coming to a head.Female Teenagers have stopped walking the town already due to problems. Anybody pointing out a problem which could arise is deemed a racist. All while the local company makes a cheap killing of cheap labour staff.
So Ireland has no immigration controls? Is that what you are saying?
Quote from: theskull1 on August 05, 2024, 12:23:51 AMThe talking past each other and bad faith interpretation of people's arguments is sadly the norm here.
Very decent people have very really concerns that people here (just like the government and the media) don't want to acknowledge. Instead... they're all racists.
GFY
Accept that some people have genuine concerns. What we have seen in Belfast over the weekend, down south over the last while and in England also is not decent people genuinely expressing concerns though
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/far-right-from-dublin-received-heroes-welcome-as-they-spent-night-drinking-with-uda-after-anti-immigrant-protest-in-belfast/a1354563384.html
Until we get past that I don't know how there is ever a serious conversation about it. It is mob violence and that is all. While you have the likes of Tommy Robinson and cronies drumming up these protests then that is all you will get.
There will be people end up doing serious jail time over these protests unless they are brought under control.
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 05, 2024, 08:45:40 AMQuote from: theskull1 on August 05, 2024, 12:23:51 AMThe talking past each other and bad faith interpretation of people's arguments is sadly the norm here.
Very decent people have very really concerns that people here (just like the government and the media) don't want to acknowledge. Instead... they're all racists.
GFY
Accept that some people have genuine concerns. What we have seen in Belfast over the weekend, down south over the last while and in England also is not decent people genuinely expressing concerns though
Pretty sure I saw this direct quoted by Bryson in one of his endless tirade of tweets over the weekend.
When you very decent people's view align with the EB UVF, the UDA, the West Brits from Dublin and Tommy Robinson it might be time to look at your definitions.
Jesus yer man Bryson was on GMU this morning, he is one clown, Chris Butler had him tied in knots.
Reported Itchy
There are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.
There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?
So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.
Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.
Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?
Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?
You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls
As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences.
Quote from: NAG1 on August 05, 2024, 09:07:51 AMPretty sure I saw this direct quoted by Bryson in one of his endless tirade of tweets over the weekend.
When you very decent people's view align with the EB UVF, the UDA, the West Brits from Dublin and Tommy Robinson it might be time to look at your definitions.
When hardliner scumbags use the same words i.e "decent people", that is not proof that the 'decent people' I'm referring to are aligned with hardliners. I'd be fairly certain the vast vast majority want nothing to do with them, but they still have fears that what is happening is not healthy for their communities. But as usual, the trump card accusations make people very uncomfortable having adult conversations about their concerns. No one in authority wants to listen.
This 'fear' that white menfolk have of black people raping their womenfolk is the exact same phenomenon that existed in the Deep South USA and often resulted in lynchings.
Absolute rednecks, then and now.
It's called being 'on tilt' these days apparently.
How come there were no riots in Scotland or Wales?
Why do the ge media refer to the rioters as 'protestors"?
2 awful rape cases in the Courts recently, 1 by a Mullingar man the other by a taxi driver.
Mullingar men and male taxi drivers need to be vetted before they move in near you.
Imagine if 100 of them lived in your town?
Quote from: theskull1 on August 05, 2024, 09:27:43 AMQuote from: NAG1 on August 05, 2024, 09:07:51 AMPretty sure I saw this direct quoted by Bryson in one of his endless tirade of tweets over the weekend.
When you very decent people's view align with the EB UVF, the UDA, the West Brits from Dublin and Tommy Robinson it might be time to look at your definitions.
When hardliner scumbags use the same words i.e "decent people", that is not proof that the 'decent people' I'm referring to are aligned with hardliners. I'd be fairly certain the vast vast majority want nothing to do with them, but they still have fears that what is happening is not healthy for their communities. But as usual, the trump card accusations make people very uncomfortable having adult conversations about their concerns. No one in authority wants to listen.
If the vast vast majority of people want nothing to do with these hardliners then why are there 100's of people arrested so far and more to follow after reviewing footage of these disturbances at towns and cities
Write up petitions, gather at stormont and hand in these petitions with air the concerns to the media like grown ups
But no close off major roads, attack places of worship, its like we forgot what it was like for the ones attending mass at Harryville, but now hand in hand with the same blokes!..
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:44:02 AMQuote from: theskull1 on August 05, 2024, 09:27:43 AMQuote from: NAG1 on August 05, 2024, 09:07:51 AMPretty sure I saw this direct quoted by Bryson in one of his endless tirade of tweets over the weekend.
When you very decent people's view align with the EB UVF, the UDA, the West Brits from Dublin and Tommy Robinson it might be time to look at your definitions.
When hardliner scumbags use the same words i.e "decent people", that is not proof that the 'decent people' I'm referring to are aligned with hardliners. I'd be fairly certain the vast vast majority want nothing to do with them, but they still have fears that what is happening is not healthy for their communities. But as usual, the trump card accusations make people very uncomfortable having adult conversations about their concerns. No one in authority wants to listen.
If the vast vast majority of people want nothing to do with these hardliners then why are there 100's of people arrested so far and more to follow after reviewing footage of these disturbances at towns and cities
Write up petitions, gather at stormont and hand in these petitions with air the concerns to the media like grown ups
But no close off major roads, attack places of worship, its like we forgot what it was like for the ones attending mass at Harryville, but now hand in hand with the same blokes!..
Even better, elect people who are capable and hold them to account for the shit show that is the health service and public service in general.
Hold them to account for policy that creates these situations.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:19:42 AMAs for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
What are you talking about. Every male is a potential rapist. Research suggests that men who rape often lack empathy and may not care about social acceptance.
We already know that locals already in the community can perpetuate these crimes as well but I would see my daughter being at 'much higher' risk if 100 males were parachuted into temporary accommodation overnight close to where I live. I can empathize with people having elevated fears.
Hard to believe you are a parent with young daughters. You serious that it wouldn't make you in any way more fearful about their safety? I think you're lying
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:19:42 AMThere are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.
There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?
So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.
Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.
Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?
Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?
You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls
As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences.
+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.
Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
QuoteI have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
Were you ashamed 30 years ago when they seen the news and thought we were all terrorists?
The media spin narratives and just like the troubles, there no effort here by the media to hear in good faith the fears that a lot of people have.
Quote from: theskull1 on August 05, 2024, 10:06:56 AMQuoteI have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
Were you ashamed 30 years ago when they seen the news and thought we were all terrorists?
The media spin narratives and just like the troubles, there no effort here by the media to hear in good faith the fears that a lot of people have.
This is where your irrational fear leads.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till
"Rioting is the language of the unherd". No political leadership is the root of this. The "Govt" are pulling all the strings but our useful idiot polititions are just bystanders. They have forgotten that they work for us. Supposed to be a Democracy, remember! This trend of "othering" and the loss of objectivity is the road to hell.
Quote from: theskull1 on August 05, 2024, 10:06:56 AMQuoteI have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
Were you ashamed 30 years ago when they seen the news and thought we were all terrorists?
The media spin narratives and just like the troubles, there no effort here by the media to hear in good faith the fears that a lot of people have.
Your perception that 30 years ago that all of the English viewed all of the Irish as terrorists is wrong in my opinion.
Just like not all English see the Irish aligning the far right movement now.
Just like 30 years ago, those of us who live here lived the real thing and knew the real story. Just like we do today. Today we can actually see Irish people committing these types of crimes against legally operated businesses and legal immigrants as well as against illegal immigrant.
Rioting, destruction of property and anti-immigrant protests are not a media spin - they are happening.
Any legitimate concerns are lost behind that.
Quote from: theskull1 on August 05, 2024, 09:15:03 AMReported Itchy
Good man. Report away. Go and tell your mammy too when your at it.
Quote from: theskull1 on August 05, 2024, 09:50:59 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:19:42 AMAs for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
What are you talking about. Every male is a potential rapist. Research suggests that men who rape often lack empathy and may not care about social acceptance.
We already know that locals already in the community can perpetuate these crimes as well but I would see my daughter being at 'much higher' risk if 100 males were parachuted into temporary accommodation overnight close to where I live. I can empathize with people having elevated fears.
Hard to believe you are a parent with young daughters. You serious that it wouldn't make you in any way more fearful about their safety? I think you're lying
That it there, we've finally got you to say it. Hiding behind "decent" citizen but the mask always slips
Quote from: tbrick18 on August 05, 2024, 09:53:04 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:19:42 AMThere are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.
There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?
So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.
Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.
Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?
Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?
You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls
As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences.
+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.
Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
Absolutely spot on
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 05, 2024, 11:22:32 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on August 05, 2024, 09:53:04 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:19:42 AMThere are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.
There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?
So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.
Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.
Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?
Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?
You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls
As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences.
+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.
Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
Absolutely spot on
Spot on me Swiss roll
I've never read such a pile of virtue signaling manure in my entire life
Oh....look at me....I'm so open minded and liberal
Makes me want to throw up
Enforce the laws that are in place and maybe people won't be so upset
Quote from: whitey on August 05, 2024, 11:53:41 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 05, 2024, 11:22:32 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on August 05, 2024, 09:53:04 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:19:42 AMThere are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.
There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?
So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.
Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.
Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?
Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?
You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls
As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences.
+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.
Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
Absolutely spot on
Spot on me Swiss roll
I've never read such a pile of virtue signaling manure in my entire life
Oh....look at me....I'm so open minded and liberal
Makes me want to throw up
Enforce the laws that are in place and maybe people won't be so upset
As I said, it is absolutely spot on
Quote from: whitey on August 05, 2024, 11:53:41 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 05, 2024, 11:22:32 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on August 05, 2024, 09:53:04 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:19:42 AMThere are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.
There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?
So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.
Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.
Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?
Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?
You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls
As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences.
+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.
Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
Absolutely spot on
Spot on me Swiss roll
I've never read such a pile of virtue signaling manure in my entire life
Oh....look at me....I'm so open minded and liberal
Makes me want to throw up
Enforce the laws that are in place and maybe people won't be so upset
100% agree. Enforce the laws that are in place. I'm not sure what immigration laws are being broken though, perhaps you can enlighten me?
All those illegal protestors, rioters, people who are damaging property should all be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Happy now?
Quote from: tbrick18 on August 05, 2024, 12:10:38 PMQuote from: whitey on August 05, 2024, 11:53:41 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 05, 2024, 11:22:32 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on August 05, 2024, 09:53:04 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:19:42 AMThere are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.
There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?
So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.
Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.
Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?
Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?
You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls
As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences.
+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.
Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
Absolutely spot on
Spot on me Swiss roll
I've never read such a pile of virtue signaling manure in my entire life
Oh....look at me....I'm so open minded and liberal
Makes me want to throw up
Enforce the laws that are in place and maybe people won't be so upset
100% agree. Enforce the laws that are in place. I'm not sure what immigration laws are being broken though, perhaps you can enlighten me?
All those illegal protestors, rioters, people who are damaging property should all be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Happy now?
Do you live under a rock or are you just winding me up ?
When they cracked down on people arriving without documentation the numbers fell off a Cliff
Why did they need to "crack down"-doesn't that tell you that they weren't enforcing the law to begin with!
https://www.newstalk.com/news/85-of-asylum-seekers-arrive-at-dublin-airport-without-identity-documents-1646914
"I note prosecutions have started, this to be begs an awful lot of questions," Deputy McNamara said.
"Has a political decision now been taken to apply the law here? The Government need to explain their decision"
Quote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 10:24:07 AM"Rioting is the language of the unherd". No political leadership is the root of this. The "Govt" are pulling all the strings but our useful idiot polititions are just bystanders. They have forgotten that they work for us. Supposed to be a Democracy, remember! This trend of "othering" and the loss of objectivity is the road to hell.
But that's what the rational ordinary fears of some should direct their attentions
I'm all for putting in places and bettering the current legislations for immigration to work quicker, that can only be done by those voted in by the same public giving off about the immigration, and this after brexit was used as a tool to help with illegal immigration! Panto stuff
Quote from: tbrick18 on August 05, 2024, 12:10:38 PMQuote from: whitey on August 05, 2024, 11:53:41 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 05, 2024, 11:22:32 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on August 05, 2024, 09:53:04 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:19:42 AMThere are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.
There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?
So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.
Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.
Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?
Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?
You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls
As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences.
+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.
Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
Absolutely spot on
Spot on me Swiss roll
I've never read such a pile of virtue signaling manure in my entire life
Oh....look at me....I'm so open minded and liberal
Makes me want to throw up
Enforce the laws that are in place and maybe people won't be so upset
100% agree. Enforce the laws that are in place. I'm not sure what immigration laws are being broken though, perhaps you can enlighten me?
All those illegal protestors, rioters, people who are damaging property should all be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Happy now?
+1.
The nonsense that "poor put upon misunderstood people" are rioting because the Government is alleged to not be enforcing immigration laws is pure sh1te.
It's just racists defending the indefensible thuggery of scumbags.
Quote from: whitey on August 05, 2024, 12:18:09 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on August 05, 2024, 12:10:38 PMQuote from: whitey on August 05, 2024, 11:53:41 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 05, 2024, 11:22:32 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on August 05, 2024, 09:53:04 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 09:19:42 AMThere are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.
There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?
So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.
Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.
Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?
Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?
You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls
As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.
These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences.
+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.
Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view. It's shameful.
Absolutely spot on
Spot on me Swiss roll
I've never read such a pile of virtue signaling manure in my entire life
Oh....look at me....I'm so open minded and liberal
Makes me want to throw up
Enforce the laws that are in place and maybe people won't be so upset
100% agree. Enforce the laws that are in place. I'm not sure what immigration laws are being broken though, perhaps you can enlighten me?
All those illegal protestors, rioters, people who are damaging property should all be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Happy now?
Do you live under a rock or are you just winding me up ?
When they cracked down on people arriving without documentation the numbers fell off a Cliff
Why did they need to "crack down"-doesn't that tell you that they weren't enforcing the law to begin with!
https://www.newstalk.com/news/85-of-asylum-seekers-arrive-at-dublin-airport-without-identity-documents-1646914
"I note prosecutions have started, this to be begs an awful lot of questions," Deputy McNamara said.
"Has a political decision now been taken to apply the law here? The Government need to explain their decision"
Ok. So the laws are in place. They are being enforced more stringently now.
Why riot? Why protest? Why burn property? The article shows laws are being enforced today - so what's the excuse today?
Do you agree that those people involved in riotous behaviour and who have damaged property in "protest" should be prosecuted?
Nice to see Loyalists getting back to the day Job of trying to drive people away
https://x.com/kscott_94/status/1820424244125212860?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
Quote from: clonadmad on August 05, 2024, 01:44:33 PMNice to see Loyalists getting back to the day Job of trying to drive people away
https://x.com/kscott_94/status/1820424244125212860?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
Driving immigrants and nationalist away, probably a bridge too far at the weekend waving Irish flegs so needs to wash that outta their system by planting bombs at GAA grounds
Are there any names or faces to the tri-colour waving lads who went drinking with the UDA afterwards? I hope their faces are broadcast the length and breath of Ireland.
Don't discount the possibility (you decide how remote a possibility) of intelligence agencies encouraging individuals to fan flames when they want to develop a narrative. Tommy Robinson to my eye for instance looks to be bought and paid by someone.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 12:27:11 PMQuote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 10:24:07 AM"Rioting is the language of the unherd". No political leadership is the root of this. The "Govt" are pulling all the strings but our useful idiot polititions are just bystanders. They have forgotten that they work for us. Supposed to be a Democracy, remember! This trend of "othering" and the loss of objectivity is the road to hell.
But that's what the rational ordinary fears of some should direct their attentions
I'm all for putting in places and bettering the current legislations for immigration to work quicker, that can only be done by those voted in by the same public giving off about the immigration, and this after brexit was used as a tool to help with illegal immigration! Panto stuff
You'll get this. Most systems prefer to operate by design in a state of homeostasis but cranking the 6 inch valve full open when the 1/2 inch just needed cracked leads to one thing, the saftey valve blows! So the question is back things off a bit and figure out what is going wrong or just let it rip??
Quote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 03:02:44 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 12:27:11 PMQuote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 10:24:07 AM"Rioting is the language of the unherd". No political leadership is the root of this. The "Govt" are pulling all the strings but our useful idiot polititions are just bystanders. They have forgotten that they work for us. Supposed to be a Democracy, remember! This trend of "othering" and the loss of objectivity is the road to hell.
But that's what the rational ordinary fears of some should direct their attentions
I'm all for putting in places and bettering the current legislations for immigration to work quicker, that can only be done by those voted in by the same public giving off about the immigration, and this after brexit was used as a tool to help with illegal immigration! Panto stuff
You'll get this. Most systems prefer to operate by design in a state of homeostasis but cranking the 6 inch valve full open when the 1/2 inch just needed cracked leads to one thing, the saftey valve blows! So the question is back things off a bit and figure out what is going wrong or just let it rip??
It's only going to take a couple of these opposing groups to collide and it really could kick things off massively.
Going by some of the videos on I've seen on social media over the weekend, the Muslim groups are not empty handed when gathering up.
Not at all. Bolton; Muslim Defence League in uniform on the streets, paramilitary-like. Let's see how THAT'S policed. Ah yes, multiculturalism - so sweet.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 02:38:14 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 05, 2024, 01:44:33 PMNice to see Loyalists getting back to the day Job of trying to drive people away
https://x.com/kscott_94/status/1820424244125212860?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
Driving immigrants and nationalist away, probably a bridge too far at the weekend waving Irish flegs so needs to wash that outta their system by planting bombs at GAA grounds
Back to Business as usual
The scum of the earth and our cohort of led by the nose morons in their loyalist dens drinking with them
It's a pity the hosts didn't give them a re enactment of Lenny Murphy in his heyday
Quote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 03:02:44 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 12:27:11 PMQuote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 10:24:07 AM"Rioting is the language of the unherd". No political leadership is the root of this. The "Govt" are pulling all the strings but our useful idiot polititions are just bystanders. They have forgotten that they work for us. Supposed to be a Democracy, remember! This trend of "othering" and the loss of objectivity is the road to hell.
But that's what the rational ordinary fears of some should direct their attentions
I'm all for putting in places and bettering the current legislations for immigration to work quicker, that can only be done by those voted in by the same public giving off about the immigration, and this after brexit was used as a tool to help with illegal immigration! Panto stuff
You'll get this. Most systems prefer to operate by design in a state of homeostasis but cranking the 6 inch valve full open when the 1/2 inch just needed cracked leads to one thing, the saftey valve blows! So the question is back things off a bit and figure out what is going wrong or just let it rip??
There is no instruction manual to fix this, as we never really had any issues with the system, it flowed well until the bottle neck created a problem.
I'm not going to use a hammer to crack a nut, and being an ex shipyard man, that's generally how we fixed it, it requires looking at the manual and applying the proper procedures otherwise we have a continued escalating problem. ;)
Seen a video online there of the police in Belfast announcing that there will be arrests or whatever, can hear 2 lads talking, one goes what f**king communists state is this, other fella says I haven't a f**king clue what's going on I'm just here for the riots bro.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 04:16:27 PMReported that the Coolock defenders racked up to a UDA club with their loyalist mates on Saturday nite... multiculturalism how are ya!
Prob sorting drug deals
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 04:14:47 PMQuote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 03:02:44 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 12:27:11 PMQuote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 10:24:07 AM"Rioting is the language of the unherd". No political leadership is the root of this. The "Govt" are pulling all the strings but our useful idiot polititions are just bystanders. They have forgotten that they work for us. Supposed to be a Democracy, remember! This trend of "othering" and the loss of objectivity is the road to hell.
But that's what the rational ordinary fears of some should direct their attentions
I'm all for putting in places and bettering the current legislations for immigration to work quicker, that can only be done by those voted in by the same public giving off about the immigration, and this after brexit was used as a tool to help with illegal immigration! Panto stuff
You'll get this. Most systems prefer to operate by design in a state of homeostasis but cranking the 6 inch valve full open when the 1/2 inch just needed cracked leads to one thing, the saftey valve blows! So the question is back things off a bit and figure out what is going wrong or just let it rip??
There is no instruction manual to fix this, as we never really had any issues with the system, it flowed well until the bottle neck created a problem.
I'm not going to use a hammer to crack a nut, and being an ex shipyard man, that's generally how we fixed it, it requires looking at the manual and applying the proper procedures otherwise we have a continued escalating problem. ;)
Yes lets just apply the proper procedures as a starting point same we have to abide to if we want to go anywhere.
Looks like the the Coolock says No banner is now bad for the brand image after its trip to Loyal Ulster
https://x.com/irishrebel1965/status/1820461476076798141?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
Quote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 04:58:58 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 04:14:47 PMQuote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 03:02:44 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2024, 12:27:11 PMQuote from: Last Man on August 05, 2024, 10:24:07 AM"Rioting is the language of the unherd". No political leadership is the root of this. The "Govt" are pulling all the strings but our useful idiot polititions are just bystanders. They have forgotten that they work for us. Supposed to be a Democracy, remember! This trend of "othering" and the loss of objectivity is the road to hell.
But that's what the rational ordinary fears of some should direct their attentions
I'm all for putting in places and bettering the current legislations for immigration to work quicker, that can only be done by those voted in by the same public giving off about the immigration, and this after brexit was used as a tool to help with illegal immigration! Panto stuff
You'll get this. Most systems prefer to operate by design in a state of homeostasis but cranking the 6 inch valve full open when the 1/2 inch just needed cracked leads to one thing, the saftey valve blows! So the question is back things off a bit and figure out what is going wrong or just let it rip??
There is no instruction manual to fix this, as we never really had any issues with the system, it flowed well until the bottle neck created a problem.
I'm not going to use a hammer to crack a nut, and being an ex shipyard man, that's generally how we fixed it, it requires looking at the manual and applying the proper procedures otherwise we have a continued escalating problem. ;)
Yes lets just apply the proper procedures as a starting point same we have to abide to if we want to go anywhere.
Hear Hear
And to set an example
We should call on the US administration to deport and then bring in a lifetime ban from entering the states,the tens of thousands of Irish living illegally there.
Correct.
We have to stop all that illegal immigration.
Of course people applying for IP/asylum are NOT ILLEGAL.
Great to see the nazifascists having at each other.
https://x.com/stancollymore/status/1820184816655953940?s=46
"Do you want them to get raped?"
She sounds like some on this board.
Not a brain cell between the lot of them.
f**k me those two videos would make your ears bleed. But I suppose they are just poor unfortunates that the big bad government won't listen to
There's footage of young girl walking hand in hand with what I assume is her absolute scum of a mother in Botanic shouting P**** out, P**** out. She was about 11. These loyalist tramps don't lick it off the ground. Fair play to the woman on pavement who called the Millbag out for raising her kid like that.
Misunderstood, can't take any more,
Provoked by despicable foreigners having successful businesses....
Bloody Police not joining them....
Added indignity they can't murder fenians with impunity or security forces assistance
Is it any wonder they're upset.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 05, 2024, 09:34:19 AMHow come there were no riots in Scotland or Wales?
Why do the ge media refer to the rioters as 'protestors"?
Because the killer was 'Welsh', remember...
Compare the mainstream media's treatment of these riots with the BLM or Leeds riots.
These "patriots" call the like of SF traitors to Ireland and then march along with the scum they're marching with...
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 05, 2024, 08:30:09 PMThese "patriots" call the like of SF traitors to Ireland and then march along with the scum they're marching with...
They are anything but patriots
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 05, 2024, 08:30:09 PMThese "patriots" call the like of SF traitors to Ireland and then march along with the scum they're marching with...
https://anphoblacht.com/contents/28018/
Do you think the majority of Irish people shares Sinn Fein's ambition for Ireland?
"A multi-racial and multi-cultural Ireland is our ambition - Declan Kearney"
Quote from: whitey on August 05, 2024, 10:14:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 05, 2024, 08:30:09 PMThese "patriots" call the like of SF traitors to Ireland and then march along with the scum they're marching with...
https://anphoblacht.com/contents/28018/
Do you think the majority of Irish people shares Sinn Fein's ambition for Ireland?
"A multi-racial and multi-cultural Ireland is our ambition - Declan Kearney"
Not even the majority of Sinn Fein voters.
Quote from: whitey on August 05, 2024, 10:14:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 05, 2024, 08:30:09 PMThese "patriots" call the like of SF traitors to Ireland and then march along with the scum they're marching with...
https://anphoblacht.com/contents/28018/
Do you think the majority of Irish people shares Sinn Fein's ambition for Ireland?
"A multi-racial and multi-cultural Ireland is our ambition - Declan Kearney"
It's a good ambition
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 10:42:26 PMThis is not about Sinn Féin versus the Far Right fascist scumbags. Is a distraction suggesting that.
There is a majority, including but not all SF supporters, that despise these thugs and their loyalist mates.
There is also a majority that wants tighter immigration controls. And it is interesting - bizarre, even - that Sinn Fein, as a supposedly nationalist party, wants massive demographic change which will inevitably and irreversibly alter the character and culture of our nation. A bit like The Plantations, eh?
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 05, 2024, 10:48:07 PMQuote from: whitey on August 05, 2024, 10:14:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 05, 2024, 08:30:09 PMThese "patriots" call the like of SF traitors to Ireland and then march along with the scum they're marching with...
https://anphoblacht.com/contents/28018/
Do you think the majority of Irish people shares Sinn Fein's ambition for Ireland?
"A multi-racial and multi-cultural Ireland is our ambition - Declan Kearney"
It's a good ambition
Why?
The plantations. FFS
From way back in 2019
Why are US 'pro-Israel' groups boosting a far-right, anti-Muslim UK extremist?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-are-us-pro-israel-groups-boosting-a-far-right-anti-muslim-uk-extremist/ (https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-are-us-pro-israel-groups-boosting-a-far-right-anti-muslim-uk-extremist/)
In the US & GB, both parties are beholden to Israel, so I'll not be surprised that intelligence agencies are involved creating this chaos and ramping up tensions ahead of war that Israel want with Iran.
A lot of dumb animals don't believe governments with agendas would do such things and instead let their emotions saturate their thinking. I say take a step back and consider the potential that we are being fcuked with by our political leaders. Not long before this crisis brings about their solution.
https://x.com/thecoastguy/status/1820437958245155020?t=fNGGbwRdSWS8c3zeKorF8Q&s=19 (https://x.com/thecoastguy/status/1820437958245155020?t=fNGGbwRdSWS8c3zeKorF8Q&s=19)
Stoked anger and fear ... leads to fighting in the streets ... lets the State step and in offer to fix it ... which means digital ID ... which is the cornerstone of Agenda 2030 ... it's not hard to track and predict ... often the only winning move is not to play ...
I've never know a period where there hasn't been fighting in the streets for one thing or another, and that's over 50 years, I'm unsure though that digital ID is reason behind it when most of the feckers are wearing masks at these 'events'
Looking to the guy who used to present Coast on BBC. Would you ever f**k off
Condemning someone's arguments based solely on a TV show they presented. ::)
What ad hominem stupidity is this?
https://x.com/stephennolan/status/1820740890152907239?s=46&t=zgzuYWfgC5dD3Y5jl1Xd6A (https://x.com/stephennolan/status/1820740890152907239?s=46&t=zgzuYWfgC5dD3Y5jl1Xd6A)
Quote from: theskull1 on August 06, 2024, 08:53:07 AMA lot of dumb animals don't believe governments with agendas would do such things and instead let their emotions saturate their thinking. I say take a step back and consider the potential that we are being fcuked with by our political leaders. Not long before this crisis brings about their solution.
https://x.com/thecoastguy/status/1820437958245155020?t=fNGGbwRdSWS8c3zeKorF8Q&s=19 (https://x.com/thecoastguy/status/1820437958245155020?t=fNGGbwRdSWS8c3zeKorF8Q&s=19)
Stoked anger and fear ... leads to fighting in the streets ... lets the State step and in offer to fix it ... which means digital ID ... which is the cornerstone of Agenda 2030 ... it's not hard to track and predict ... often the only winning move is not to play ...
How do these fantastic conspiracies hold steady across multiple countries in multiple continents and when governments in all these countries and flipping from left to right to Centre and back again. This is just nonsense that does not hold up to any sort of scrutiny.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2024, 10:14:49 AMhttps://x.com/stephennolan/status/1820740890152907239?s=46&t=zgzuYWfgC5dD3Y5jl1Xd6A (https://x.com/stephennolan/status/1820740890152907239?s=46&t=zgzuYWfgC5dD3Y5jl1Xd6A)
Yep that just about sums up a lot of these racists, including the ones on here. They have no explanation, they try to come up with something semi intelligent but under even the most basic challenge to their argument you know it just falls back to "blacks/muslims are different and I don't like them".
Quote from: burdizzo on August 05, 2024, 10:51:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 10:42:26 PMThis is not about Sinn Féin versus the Far Right fascist scumbags. Is a distraction suggesting that.
There is a majority, including but not all SF supporters, that despise these thugs and their loyalist mates.
There is also a majority that wants tighter immigration controls. And it is interesting - bizarre, even - that Sinn Fein, as a supposedly nationalist party, wants massive demographic change which will inevitably and irreversibly alter the character and culture of our nation. A bit like The Plantations, eh?
Yep
The Sinn Fein Government with their open doors policy in the Republic have been completely responsible for the new plantation of our country
Hopefully when Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael get in at the next election this will change.
Meanwhile
https://x.com/beltel/status/1820717616136143052?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
Quote from: theskull1 on August 06, 2024, 10:01:21 AMCondemning someone's arguments based solely on a TV show they presented. ::)
What ad hominem stupidity is this?
His "arguement" carries no evidence or weight whatsoever. Spouting nothing but mad conspiracy theories for stupid c***ts to lap up. "Keir Starmer wants to microchip everyone so he's secretly behind these riots."
f**king moron.
Quote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 10:31:23 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 05, 2024, 10:51:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 10:42:26 PMThis is not about Sinn Féin versus the Far Right fascist scumbags. Is a distraction suggesting that.
There is a majority, including but not all SF supporters, that despise these thugs and their loyalist mates.
There is also a majority that wants tighter immigration controls. And it is interesting - bizarre, even - that Sinn Fein, as a supposedly nationalist party, wants massive demographic change which will inevitably and irreversibly alter the character and culture of our nation. A bit like The Plantations, eh?
Yep
The Sinn Fein Government with their open doors policy in the Republic have been completely responsible for the new plantation of our country
Hopefully when Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael get in at the next election this will change.
Meanwhile
https://x.com/beltel/status/1820717616136143052?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
Am I in a time vortex reading that?
Since when were SF in power and when were FF/FG not in power?
Be under no illusion Palantir, Meta and the like want control over the masses and already exert control of sorts dictating the agenda and manipulating people to their needs.
The poor get stroked and told it's the immigrants fault, all the while it's the rich business men.
Democracy in the west is dead.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmfNEJF7hMM_wFoMkxi9oQ5YX1oXSZERSU-w&s)
Quote from: johnnycool on August 06, 2024, 10:37:49 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 10:31:23 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 05, 2024, 10:51:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 10:42:26 PMThis is not about Sinn Féin versus the Far Right fascist scumbags. Is a distraction suggesting that.
There is a majority, including but not all SF supporters, that despise these thugs and their loyalist mates.
There is also a majority that wants tighter immigration controls. And it is interesting - bizarre, even - that Sinn Fein, as a supposedly nationalist party, wants massive demographic change which will inevitably and irreversibly alter the character and culture of our nation. A bit like The Plantations, eh?
Yep
The Sinn Fein Government with their open doors policy in the Republic have been completely responsible for the new plantation of our country
Hopefully when Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael get in at the next election this will change.
Meanwhile
https://x.com/beltel/status/1820717616136143052?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
Am I in a time vortex reading that?
Since when were SF in power and when were FF/FG not in power?
No no no
it's all Sinn Féin's fault
Have they not been in gubbermint ?
Thoughts with all your patriots in Northern Ireland
Being Over ran in the great replacement
So ye are
https://x.com/dmcbfs/status/1820592677077053871?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
This is what the far right want to get back to...
https://x.com/themonologist/status/1820398402984608080?s=46
Quote from: burdizzo on August 05, 2024, 10:51:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 10:42:26 PMThis is not about Sinn Féin versus the Far Right fascist scumbags. Is a distraction suggesting that.
There is a majority, including but not all SF supporters, that despise these thugs and their loyalist mates.
There is also a majority that wants tighter immigration controls. And it is interesting - bizarre, even - that Sinn Fein, as a supposedly nationalist party, wants massive demographic change which will inevitably and irreversibly alter the character and culture of our nation. A bit like The Plantations, eh?
You are quite possibly one of the most stupid bastards I've come across (and I'm on Twitter).
Simple minded c***ts like you love to preach about the "character" and "culture" of our nation being under threat (absolute bollox by the way).
Where have people like you been for the past 100 years when your fellow Irishmen in the north have been under the rule of foreigners?
Where were people like you when actual Irish women and children were being murdered by armed, foreign men of military fighting age and their Loyalist proxies?
Irish culture is not under threat.
Here in the north, visible expression of our native language is opposed or destroyed regularly, GAA clubs still face attacks (as recent as two days ago); even in Armagh we couldn't even celebrate an All Ireland win without being met with derision, mockery and contempt. (That said we are still alive and kicking up here in Ulster with a clean sweep in the football!)
People like you travelled to Belfast on Saturday and stood shoulder to shoulder, brothers in arms, with people waving the butchers apron, who actively oppose and attack all things Irish. As someone who holds far right views, do you not think that's a bit f**king stupid?
Do you genuinely think, given what your fellow countrymen in the north have had to endure, and while people like you sat on your hands and did nothing, do you actually think immigration is going to lead anything remotely close to what your fellow countrymen in the north have went through?
Sinn Fein only have themselves to blame
They are the main OPPOSITION party at a time when the governments immigration policies are wildly unpopular
So what does Sinn Fein do-go right along and even double down with all their woke paddywhackery
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 11:25:48 AMSinn Fein only have themselves to blame
They are the main OPPOSITION party at a time when the governments immigration policies are wildly unpopular
So what does Sinn Fein do-go right along and even double down with all their woke paddywhackery
So you are blaming SF for FF/FG polices ... Jesus clutching big time. The capitals doesn't make it any better either..
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 11:25:48 AMSinn Fein only have themselves to blame
They are the main OPPOSITION party at a time when the governments immigration policies are wildly unpopular
So what does Sinn Fein do-go right along and even double down with all their woke paddywhackery
Loyalists such as yourself clearly don't know how Parliamentary Democracy works in the Republic
These nazifascists who shout loudest about "Oiirish koolchoor" haven't a word of Gaeilge, wouldn't know a reel from a rugby ball, have little or no interest in gaelic games but they're Oiiirish and are saving us from foreigners like the Wiffens, Adalekes, etc.
Meanwhile Whitey's mates were doing him proud in Belfast again last night.
Quote from: johnnycool on August 06, 2024, 10:42:14 AMBe under no illusion Palantir, Meta and the like want control over the masses and already exert control of sorts dictating the agenda and manipulating people to their needs.
The poor get stroked and told it's the immigrants fault, all the while it's the rich business men.
Democracy in the west is dead.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmfNEJF7hMM_wFoMkxi9oQ5YX1oXSZERSU-w&s)
That's as close as we'll get to the truth about all of this.
Quote from: johnnycool on August 06, 2024, 10:42:14 AMBe under no illusion Palantir, Meta and the like want control over the masses and already exert control of sorts dictating the agenda and manipulating people to their needs.
The poor get stroked and told it's the immigrants fault, all the while it's the rich business men.
Democracy in the west is dead.
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Close the Immigrant debate - The above summarises it all in a nutshell.
Quote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 10:31:23 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 05, 2024, 10:51:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 10:42:26 PMThis is not about Sinn Féin versus the Far Right fascist scumbags. Is a distraction suggesting that.
There is a majority, including but not all SF supporters, that despise these thugs and their loyalist mates.
There is also a majority that wants tighter immigration controls. And it is interesting - bizarre, even - that Sinn Fein, as a supposedly nationalist party, wants massive demographic change which will inevitably and irreversibly alter the character and culture of our nation. A bit like The Plantations, eh?
Yep
The Sinn Fein Government with their open doors policy in the Republic have been completely responsible for the new plantation of our country
Hopefully when Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael get in at the next election this will change.
Meanwhile
https://x.com/beltel/status/1820717616136143052?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
I appear to have slipped into a coma and woke up in a time where Sinn Fein are now in government.
Nordies just don't get our 26 Co.ways of saying things!!!!
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 11:25:48 AMSinn Fein only have themselves to blame
They are the main OPPOSITION party at a time when the governments immigration policies are wildly unpopular
So what does Sinn Fein do-go right along and even double down with all their woke paddywhackery
'Woke'. ;D Grow up you unhinged tube.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2024, 11:37:48 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 10:31:23 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 05, 2024, 10:51:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 10:42:26 PMThis is not about Sinn Féin versus the Far Right fascist scumbags. Is a distraction suggesting that.
There is a majority, including but not all SF supporters, that despise these thugs and their loyalist mates.
There is also a majority that wants tighter immigration controls. And it is interesting - bizarre, even - that Sinn Fein, as a supposedly nationalist party, wants massive demographic change which will inevitably and irreversibly alter the character and culture of our nation. A bit like The Plantations, eh?
Yep
The Sinn Fein Government with their open doors policy in the Republic have been completely responsible for the new plantation of our country
Hopefully when Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael get in at the next election this will change.
Meanwhile
https://x.com/beltel/status/1820717616136143052?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
I appear to have slipped into a coma and woke up in a time where Sinn Fein are now in government.
Whoosh
That's sound of it going right over your head,Son
To be clear
Sinn Fein are in OPPOSITION
Quote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 11:45:24 AMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2024, 11:37:48 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 10:31:23 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 05, 2024, 10:51:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 10:42:26 PMThis is not about Sinn Féin versus the Far Right fascist scumbags. Is a distraction suggesting that.
There is a majority, including but not all SF supporters, that despise these thugs and their loyalist mates.
There is also a majority that wants tighter immigration controls. And it is interesting - bizarre, even - that Sinn Fein, as a supposedly nationalist party, wants massive demographic change which will inevitably and irreversibly alter the character and culture of our nation. A bit like The Plantations, eh?
Yep
The Sinn Fein Government with their open doors policy in the Republic have been completely responsible for the new plantation of our country
Hopefully when Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael get in at the next election this will change.
Meanwhile
https://x.com/beltel/status/1820717616136143052?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
I appear to have slipped into a coma and woke up in a time where Sinn Fein are now in government.
Whoosh
That's sound of it going right over your head,Son
To be clear
Sinn Fein are in OPPOSITION
Indeed!
Quote from: Itchy on August 06, 2024, 10:20:16 AMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2024, 10:14:49 AMhttps://x.com/stephennolan/status/1820740890152907239?s=46&t=zgzuYWfgC5dD3Y5jl1Xd6A (https://x.com/stephennolan/status/1820740890152907239?s=46&t=zgzuYWfgC5dD3Y5jl1Xd6A)
Yep that just about sums up a lot of these racists, including the ones on here. They have no explanation, they try to come up with something semi intelligent but under even the most basic challenge to their argument you know it just falls back to "blacks/muslims are different and I don't like them".
This is a white country. Good god almighty.
The blatant racism, the complete lack of intelligence, the nonsensical reasoning is just incredible.
SF, Stormont, boat people are all bad. The chinese are good though, they work. Words cannot describe this.
Quote from: general_lee on August 06, 2024, 11:23:20 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 05, 2024, 10:51:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 10:42:26 PMThis is not about Sinn Féin versus the Far Right fascist scumbags. Is a distraction suggesting that.
There is a majority, including but not all SF supporters, that despise these thugs and their loyalist mates.
There is also a majority that wants tighter immigration controls. And it is interesting - bizarre, even - that Sinn Fein, as a supposedly nationalist party, wants massive demographic change which will inevitably and irreversibly alter the character and culture of our nation. A bit like The Plantations, eh?
You are quite possibly one of the most stupid bastards I've come across (and I'm on Twitter).
Simple minded c***ts like you love to preach about the "character" and "culture" of our nation being under threat (absolute bollox by the way).
Where have people like you been for the past 100 years when your fellow Irishmen in the north have been under the rule of foreigners?
Where were people like you when actual Irish women and children were being murdered by armed, foreign men of military fighting age and their Loyalist proxies?
Irish culture is not under threat.
Here in the north, visible expression of our native language is opposed or destroyed regularly, GAA clubs still face attacks (as recent as two days ago); even in Armagh we couldn't even celebrate an All Ireland win without being met with derision, mockery and contempt. (That said we are still alive and kicking up here in Ulster with a clean sweep in the football!)
People like you travelled to Belfast on Saturday and stood shoulder to shoulder, brothers in arms, with people waving the butchers apron, who actively oppose and attack all things Irish. As someone who holds far right views, do you not think that's a bit f**king stupid?
Do you genuinely think, given what your fellow countrymen in the north have had to endure, and while people like you sat on your hands and did nothing, do you actually think immigration is going to lead anything remotely close to what your fellow countrymen in the north have went through?
Burdizzo wouldn't dare mouth anything he says on this platform in public
You'd never guess he was such a closet racist until he arrives on here
I wonder what the GAA club he's associated with here in Laois would have to say about him if they were shown screenshots of his online "contributions"
Hmmmmm
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2024, 11:47:56 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 11:45:24 AMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2024, 11:37:48 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 10:31:23 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 05, 2024, 10:51:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 05, 2024, 10:42:26 PMThis is not about Sinn Féin versus the Far Right fascist scumbags. Is a distraction suggesting that.
There is a majority, including but not all SF supporters, that despise these thugs and their loyalist mates.
There is also a majority that wants tighter immigration controls. And it is interesting - bizarre, even - that Sinn Fein, as a supposedly nationalist party, wants massive demographic change which will inevitably and irreversibly alter the character and culture of our nation. A bit like The Plantations, eh?
Yep
The Sinn Fein Government with their open doors policy in the Republic have been completely responsible for the new plantation of our country
Hopefully when Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael get in at the next election this will change.
Meanwhile
https://x.com/beltel/status/1820717616136143052?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
I appear to have slipped into a coma and woke up in a time where Sinn Fein are now in government.
Whoosh
That's sound of it going right over your head,Son
To be clear
Sinn Fein are in OPPOSITION
Indeed!
So what government policies did they OPPOSE?
They actually went right along with everything the government was doing and actually threw fuel in the fire with all of their cringeworthy virtue signaling
Why didn't one of them grill Helen McEntee like Michael McNamara did
IThat's real opposition
Instead we have to listen to a pile of nauseous tripe
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 12:28:55 PMThis is very similar to Unionism/TUV/Loyalist obsession with Sinn Féin bla bla...
The Far Right crowd in the Republic made a huge mistake at the weekend appearing in Belfast with their UDA buddies. It confirmed an affiliation that many knew... They know they messed up and can no longer deny they are in cohoots with British/Loyalist fascists. Scumbags all. Don't underestimate how angry nationalists/Republicans are about this.
Take it down from the mast...
Some great videos floating around from the Coolock protests yesterday, with the response to their venture north with their UDA buddies.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 12:28:55 PMThis is very similar to Unionism/TUV/Loyalist obsession with Sinn Féin bla bla...
The Far Right crowd in the Republic made a huge mistake at the weekend appearing in Belfast with their UDA buddies. It confirmed an affiliation that many knew... They know they messed up and can no longer deny they are in cohoots with British/Loyalist murdering fascists. Scumbags all. Don't underestimate how angry nationalists/Republicans are about this.
So how many people from Coolock attended the Belfast protest?
Did they participate with the blessing of the Coolock community or did they participate in a personal capacity?
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41450842.html
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:38:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 12:28:55 PMThis is very similar to Unionism/TUV/Loyalist obsession with Sinn Féin bla bla...
The Far Right crowd in the Republic made a huge mistake at the weekend appearing in Belfast with their UDA buddies. It confirmed an affiliation that many knew... They know they messed up and can no longer deny they are in cohoots with British/Loyalist murdering fascists. Scumbags all. Don't underestimate how angry nationalists/Republicans are about this.
So how many people from Coolock attended the Belfast protest?
Did they participate with the blessing of the Coolock community or did they participate in a personal capacity?
Carrying Coolcock banner would lead me to believe they didnt go without the knowledge of their loose grouping.
Showed their colours and now have to take their medicine, outed themselves.
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 12:40:52 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:38:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 12:28:55 PMThis is very similar to Unionism/TUV/Loyalist obsession with Sinn Féin bla bla...
The Far Right crowd in the Republic made a huge mistake at the weekend appearing in Belfast with their UDA buddies. It confirmed an affiliation that many knew... They know they messed up and can no longer deny they are in cohoots with British/Loyalist murdering fascists. Scumbags all. Don't underestimate how angry nationalists/Republicans are about this.
So how many people from Coolock attended the Belfast protest?
Did they participate with the blessing of the Coolock community or did they participate in a personal capacity?
Carrying Coolcock banner would lead me to believe they didnt go without the knowledge of their loose grouping.
Showed their colours and now have to take their medicine, outed themselves.
.
Okay
So you don't know the answer
That video of Nolan actually hurt my brain!! If that was your da or granda you'd be (to use a Belfast one) scundered
How many times did he try and bring in SF lol! He's that angry he forgot who to fight with.
Oxygen stealer
It's increasingly clear the best way to combat the rioting right-wing idiots is to just let them all speak to the media, self mutilation.
https://x.com/News_Letter/status/1820714090353844234
I give you folks the Newsletter. What a rag.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 01:07:54 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:49:03 PMQuote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 12:40:52 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:38:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 12:28:55 PMThis is very similar to Unionism/TUV/Loyalist obsession with Sinn Féin bla bla...
The Far Right crowd in the Republic made a huge mistake at the weekend appearing in Belfast with their UDA buddies. It confirmed an affiliation that many knew... They know they messed up and can no longer deny they are in cohoots with British/Loyalist murdering fascists. Scumbags all. Don't underestimate how angry nationalists/Republicans are about this.
So how many people from Coolock attended the Belfast protest?
Did they participate with the blessing of the Coolock community or did they participate in a personal capacity?
Carrying Coolcock banner would lead me to believe they didnt go without the knowledge of their loose grouping.
Showed their colours and now have to take their medicine, outed themselves.
.
Okay
So you don't know the answer
Will Coolock mob now remove the banner, ban, name and disavow the people that courted the UDA in Belfast?
Anything less is approval.
Agree but I don't understand where you want to remove the banner from?
Is it on display somewhere in Belfast?
Quote from: grounded on August 06, 2024, 01:08:27 PMhttps://x.com/News_Letter/status/1820714090353844234
I give you folks the Newsletter. What a rag.
Absolute disgusting disgraceful stoking the scum.
Has Rhubarb whitey condemned the violence in Belfast (or England either)?
I see the Daily Fail has turned on Yaxley Lennon! They and their cohorts are responsible for the likes of him in the first place.
Another heroine for whitey, burdy etc
Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 01:34:33 PMAnother heroine for whitey, burdy etc
What about the banner now Whitey
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 01:42:34 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 01:15:28 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 01:07:54 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:49:03 PMQuote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 12:40:52 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:38:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 12:28:55 PMThis is very similar to Unionism/TUV/Loyalist obsession with Sinn Féin bla bla...
The Far Right crowd in the Republic made a huge mistake at the weekend appearing in Belfast with their UDA buddies. It confirmed an affiliation that many knew... They know they messed up and can no longer deny they are in cohoots with British/Loyalist murdering fascists. Scumbags all. Don't underestimate how angry nationalists/Republicans are about this.
So how many people from Coolock attended the Belfast protest?
Did they participate with the blessing of the Coolock community or did they participate in a personal capacity?
Carrying Coolcock banner would lead me to believe they didnt go without the knowledge of their loose grouping.
Showed their colours and now have to take their medicine, outed themselves.
.
Okay
So you don't know the answer
Will Coolock mob now remove the banner, ban, name and disavow the people that courted the UDA in Belfast?
Anything less is approval.
Agree but I don't understand where you want to remove the banner from?
Is it on display somewhere in Belfast?
'Coolock says NO' inspired by the 'Ulster says NO' textbook..
Was this on UDA advice?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Says_No
So, I'll ask again where does the banner need to be removed from?
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 01:50:19 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 01:42:34 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 01:15:28 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 01:07:54 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:49:03 PMQuote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 12:40:52 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:38:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 12:28:55 PMThis is very similar to Unionism/TUV/Loyalist obsession with Sinn Féin bla bla...
The Far Right crowd in the Republic made a huge mistake at the weekend appearing in Belfast with their UDA buddies. It confirmed an affiliation that many knew... They know they messed up and can no longer deny they are in cohoots with British/Loyalist murdering fascists. Scumbags all. Don't underestimate how angry nationalists/Republicans are about this.
So how many people from Coolock attended the Belfast protest?
Did they participate with the blessing of the Coolock community or did they participate in a personal capacity?
Carrying Coolcock banner would lead me to believe they didnt go without the knowledge of their loose grouping.
Showed their colours and now have to take their medicine, outed themselves.
.
Okay
So you don't know the answer
Will Coolock mob now remove the banner, ban, name and disavow the people that courted the UDA in Belfast?
Anything less is approval.
Agree but I don't understand where you want to remove the banner from?
Is it on display somewhere in Belfast?
'Coolock says NO' inspired by the 'Ulster says NO' textbook..
Was this on UDA advice?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Says_No
So, I'll ask again where does the banner need to be removed from?
I know where they could stick, lad!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 01:52:00 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 01:50:19 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 01:42:34 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 01:15:28 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 01:07:54 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:49:03 PMQuote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 12:40:52 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:38:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 12:28:55 PMThis is very similar to Unionism/TUV/Loyalist obsession with Sinn Féin bla bla...
The Far Right crowd in the Republic made a huge mistake at the weekend appearing in Belfast with their UDA buddies. It confirmed an affiliation that many knew... They know they messed up and can no longer deny they are in cohoots with British/Loyalist murdering fascists. Scumbags all. Don't underestimate how angry nationalists/Republicans are about this.
So how many people from Coolock attended the Belfast protest?
Did they participate with the blessing of the Coolock community or did they participate in a personal capacity?
Carrying Coolcock banner would lead me to believe they didnt go without the knowledge of their loose grouping.
Showed their colours and now have to take their medicine, outed themselves.
.
Okay
So you don't know the answer
Will Coolock mob now remove the banner, ban, name and disavow the people that courted the UDA in Belfast?
Anything less is approval.
Agree but I don't understand where you want to remove the banner from?
Is it on display somewhere in Belfast?
'Coolock says NO' inspired by the 'Ulster says NO' textbook..
Was this on UDA advice?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Says_No
So, I'll ask again where does the banner need to be removed from?
I know where they could stick, lad!
I'm completely confused
Someone said "the banner needs to be removed"........removed from where exactly
Is it on display in some UDA social club on the Sandy Row?
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 01:59:54 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 01:56:52 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 01:52:00 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 01:50:19 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 01:42:34 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 01:15:28 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 01:07:54 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:49:03 PMQuote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 12:40:52 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:38:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 12:28:55 PMThis is very similar to Unionism/TUV/Loyalist obsession with Sinn Féin bla bla...
The Far Right crowd in the Republic made a huge mistake at the weekend appearing in Belfast with their UDA buddies. It confirmed an affiliation that many knew... They know they messed up and can no longer deny they are in cohoots with British/Loyalist murdering fascists. Scumbags all. Don't underestimate how angry nationalists/Republicans are about this.
So how many people from Coolock attended the Belfast protest?
Did they participate with the blessing of the Coolock community or did they participate in a personal capacity?
Carrying Coolcock banner would lead me to believe they didnt go without the knowledge of their loose grouping.
Showed their colours and now have to take their medicine, outed themselves.
.
Okay
So you don't know the answer
Will Coolock mob now remove the banner, ban, name and disavow the people that courted the UDA in Belfast?
Anything less is approval.
Agree but I don't understand where you want to remove the banner from?
Is it on display somewhere in Belfast?
'Coolock says NO' inspired by the 'Ulster says NO' textbook..
Was this on UDA advice?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Says_No
So, I'll ask again where does the banner need to be removed from?
I know where they could stick, lad!
I'm completely confused
Someone said "the banner needs to be removed"........removed from where exactly
Is it on display in some UDA social club on the Sandy Row?
It appeared in Coolock yesterday. Incinerater best place for it. Is obviously a shout-out to the UDA partners.
Still confused
So are people complaining that the actual banner that was in Belfast on Saturday was in Coolock yesterday?
Or do people want the protestors from Coolock to adopt a new slogan given the shame that was brought to the original one?
Whitey's confused .. Finally we are getting somewhere
To be fair you aren't hard to confuse on this one.
People are rightly angry that anyone from that community would align themselves to a right wing UDA orchestrated protest in Belfast and to bring shame on our nation's flag by having it in such a hatefest situation.
We would prefer that the good people of Coolock would come out and show this shower the road. Brought shame on their whole community, but maybe it is OK in your book to align yourself with people who have targeted and killed members of our community for 30 plus years. As long as they hate the immigrants too eh Whitey.
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 02:10:20 PMTo be fair you aren't hard to confuse on this one.
People are rightly angry that anyone from that community would align themselves to a right wing UDA orchestrated protest in Belfast and to bring shame on our nation's flag by having it in such a hatefest situation.
We would prefer that the good people of Coolock would come out and show this shower the road. Brought shame on their whole community, but maybe it is OK in your book to align yourself with people who have targeted and killed members of our community for 30 plus years. As long as they hate the immigrants too eh Whitey.
For the third or fourth time
Where should the banner be removed from
(FWIW what happened in Belfast on Saturday is now being used by people on here to deligitimize the valid grievances of the thousands of people from Coolock who weren't in Belfast on Saturday and who were just as outraged as you that someone claiming to represent them participated)
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 02:42:40 PMQuote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 02:10:20 PMTo be fair you aren't hard to confuse on this one.
People are rightly angry that anyone from that community would align themselves to a right wing UDA orchestrated protest in Belfast and to bring shame on our nation's flag by having it in such a hatefest situation.
We would prefer that the good people of Coolock would come out and show this shower the road. Brought shame on their whole community, but maybe it is OK in your book to align yourself with people who have targeted and killed members of our community for 30 plus years. As long as they hate the immigrants too eh Whitey.
For the third or fourth time
Where should the banner be removed from
(FWIW what happened in Belfast on Saturday is now being used by people on here to deligitimize the valid grievances of the thousands of people from Coolock who weren't in Belfast on Saturday and who were just as outraged as you that someone claiming to represent them participated)
If you have valid grievances take it up with the local politician that the locals voted in, don't take it to the local drug dealing UDA/UFF dirt bags from East Belfast..
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 02:42:40 PMQuote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 02:10:20 PMTo be fair you aren't hard to confuse on this one.
People are rightly angry that anyone from that community would align themselves to a right wing UDA orchestrated protest in Belfast and to bring shame on our nation's flag by having it in such a hatefest situation.
We would prefer that the good people of Coolock would come out and show this shower the road. Brought shame on their whole community, but maybe it is OK in your book to align yourself with people who have targeted and killed members of our community for 30 plus years. As long as they hate the immigrants too eh Whitey.
For the third or fourth time
Where should the banner be removed from
(FWIW what happened in Belfast on Saturday is now being used by people on here to deligitimize the valid grievances of the thousands of people from Coolock who weren't in Belfast on Saturday and who were just as outraged as you that someone claiming to represent them participated)
TBF they deligitimized themselves - they proved that their grievances and those they claim to represent are merely right wing anti-immigrant hate merchants, they did this by standing shoulder to shoulder with those who they share this hate with.
Whatever pretence they had before coming up the road is now out in the open and we see them. We also see you Whitey.
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 02:42:40 PMQuote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 02:10:20 PMTo be fair you aren't hard to confuse on this one.
People are rightly angry that anyone from that community would align themselves to a right wing UDA orchestrated protest in Belfast and to bring shame on our nation's flag by having it in such a hatefest situation.
We would prefer that the good people of Coolock would come out and show this shower the road. Brought shame on their whole community, but maybe it is OK in your book to align yourself with people who have targeted and killed members of our community for 30 plus years. As long as they hate the immigrants too eh Whitey.
For the third or fourth time
Where should the banner be removed from
(FWIW what happened in Belfast on Saturday is now being used by people on here to deligitimize the valid grievances of the thousands of people from Coolock who weren't in Belfast on Saturday and who were just as outraged as you that someone claiming to represent them participated)
The Royal Bar in Sandy Row by the looks of it.
If your friends in there with some accused of being involved in the Sean Graham's bookmaker massacre and with a woman responsible for luring a catholic woman to her death by having their throat cut then you've no right to be flying the Irish flag anywhere...
As for the legitimate concerns of the Coolock community, I'm sure there are some alright, but the issue isn't immigrants, it's poor governance over the years which has left these communities disenfrancised.
They should be more concerned about other Irish lads and lassies from beyond the pale coming to Dublin and taking their jobs, their houses and their hospital appointments, no?
When they get feck all votes they revert to type...
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0806/1463665-taoiseach-threat/
Concerning that Instagram left the stuff there for 2 days.
Whitey, burdy,etc will be happy though.
There are a lot of restaurants at the end of botanic near sandy rowe which are from different countries. There are 4 or 5 in a row there IIRC. The whole lot of them could end up having to leave >:(
This is not a new thing sadly. About a dozen years ago I worked with a pakistani guy who lived about a 5 minute walk from that restaurant that was burnt out. He said people would just come up to him in the street and tell him "f**k off you p*** b**tard". He said it wasn't uncommon to happen to him. I asked him why he even bothered living in this country when people treat you like that - disgusting. What kind of person would have the gall to walk up to someone like that.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2024, 04:19:29 PMThere are a lot of restaurants at the end of botanic near sandy rowe which are from different countries. There are 4 or 5 in a row there IIRC. The whole lot of them could end up having to leave >:(
This is not a new thing sadly. About a dozen years ago I worked with a pakistani guy who lived about a 5 minute walk from that restaurant that was burnt out. He said people would just come up to him in the street and tell him "f**k off you p*** b**tard". He said it wasn't uncommon to happen to him. I asked him why he even bothered living in this country when people treat you like that - disgusting. What kind of person would have the gall to walk up to someone like that.
A lot of the immigrant community live in loyalist areas as they are the cheapest areas to rent in, because they are rundown shitholes left in neglect by the same DUP clowns they vote for each election. It's not just immigrants they hate, they hate everyone. Not saying there are not racist arseholes in nationalist areas, but I've lived in west Belfast last 21 years and have seen very little if any abuse of the area's growing ethnic population, who have been welcomed by vast majority of people.
Personally I do not support any bigotry or thuggery. I am basically trying to point out that we need focus upstream to questionable governance and lack of political scrutiny/leadership that have created our current societal issues.
This country is what it is, the people are what they are, forcing change has never been shown to work.
Whether you agree with them or not, the people of Coolock (and elsewhere) have a fundamental right to protest ( peacefully)
I find it ironic that people who were beaten off the streets themselves for protesting would deny that right to others
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:49:03 PMQuote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2024, 12:40:52 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 12:38:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 12:28:55 PMThis is very similar to Unionism/TUV/Loyalist obsession with Sinn Féin bla bla...
The Far Right crowd in the Republic made a huge mistake at the weekend appearing in Belfast with their UDA buddies. It confirmed an affiliation that many knew... They know they messed up and can no longer deny they are in cohoots with British/Loyalist murdering fascists. Scumbags all. Don't underestimate how angry nationalists/Republicans are about this.
So how many people from Coolock attended the Belfast protest?
Did they participate with the blessing of the Coolock community or did they participate in a personal capacity?
Carrying Coolcock banner would lead me to believe they didnt go without the knowledge of their loose grouping.
Showed their colours and now have to take their medicine, outed themselves.
.
Okay
So you don't know the answer
They brought the bloody banner. What more do you want
Quote from: red hander on August 06, 2024, 04:29:53 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2024, 04:19:29 PMThere are a lot of restaurants at the end of botanic near sandy rowe which are from different countries. There are 4 or 5 in a row there IIRC. The whole lot of them could end up having to leave >:(
This is not a new thing sadly. About a dozen years ago I worked with a pakistani guy who lived about a 5 minute walk from that restaurant that was burnt out. He said people would just come up to him in the street and tell him "f**k off you p*** b**tard". He said it wasn't uncommon to happen to him. I asked him why he even bothered living in this country when people treat you like that - disgusting. What kind of person would have the gall to walk up to someone like that.
A lot of the immigrant community live in loyalist areas as they are the cheapest areas to rent in, because they are rundown shitholes left in neglect by the same DUP clowns they vote for each election. It's not just immigrants they hate, they hate everyone. Not saying there are not racist arseholes in nationalist areas, but I've lived in west Belfast last 21 years and have seen very little if any abuse of the area's growing ethnic population, who have been welcomed by vast majority of people.
+1
These people have an agenda and that is too overthrow labour and then install a Farage dictatorship or a tory dictatorship which is hilarious since Tories let in thousands of immigrants but these people think Tories care about them. The Irish far right are partly to blame on republicans who for whatever reason were too terrified to go after the ring leaders before they got too big. If they cant overthrow the government directly they will riot untill people beg for an election to put Tories back in.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 05:27:22 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 05:00:28 PMWhether you agree with them or not, the people of Coolock (and elsewhere) have a fundamental right to protest ( peacefully)
I find it ironic that people who were beaten off the streets themselves for protesting would deny that right to others
When you stand side-by-side with sectarian UDA killers you forfeit that right.
+1,000
A lot of these racists types hate themselves but they project it onto others instead of working on themselves.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 05:48:26 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 05:27:22 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 05:00:28 PMWhether you agree with them or not, the people of Coolock (and elsewhere) have a fundamental right to protest ( peacefully)
I find it ironic that people who were beaten off the streets themselves for protesting would deny that right to others
When you stand side-by-side with sectarian UDA killers you forfeit that right.
+1,000
So the entire population of Coolock was in Belfast last Saturday? I must have missed that on the news
LOL-It's as clear as day what's going on here. The open borders brigade are just looking for an excuse to shut down any and all protest
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 06:25:12 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 05:48:26 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 05:27:22 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 05:00:28 PMWhether you agree with them or not, the people of Coolock (and elsewhere) have a fundamental right to protest ( peacefully)
I find it ironic that people who were beaten off the streets themselves for protesting would deny that right to others
When you stand side-by-side with sectarian UDA killers you forfeit that right.
+1,000
So the entire population of Coolock was in Belfast last Saturday? I must have missed that on the news
LOL-It's as clear as day what's going on here. The open borders brigade are just looking for an excuse to shut down any and all protest
Doesn't matter how many were there. They brought the bloody banner with them. Have any coolock people came out to distance themselves? That's a genuine question
Whitey still can't/won't condemn thuggery.
Tells you all you want to know about him.
Anyone want to save me 12 minutes and tell me what the video of Nolan and some fella in Sandy Row amounted to.
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 06, 2024, 06:53:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 06:25:12 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 05:48:26 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 06, 2024, 05:27:22 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 05:00:28 PMWhether you agree with them or not, the people of Coolock (and elsewhere) have a fundamental right to protest ( peacefully)
I find it ironic that people who were beaten off the streets themselves for protesting would deny that right to others
When you stand side-by-side with sectarian UDA killers you forfeit that right.
+1,000
So the entire population of Coolock was in Belfast last Saturday? I must have missed that on the news
LOL-It's as clear as day what's going on here. The open borders brigade are just looking for an excuse to shut down any and all protest
Doesn't matter how many were there. They brought the bloody banner with them. Have any coolock people came out to distance themselves? That's a genuine question
I don't think any Nationalist would want to start playing the whole "guilt by association" game
Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 07:48:29 PMWhitey still can't/won't condemn thuggery.
Tells you all you want to know about him.
I am on record many times as saying people who break the law should be prosecuted to the fullest extent
And for the record....my name refers to my hair color when I joined the board years ago
I'm actually thinking of updating it to Whitey/Baldy
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:12:47 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 07:48:29 PMWhitey still can't/won't condemn thuggery.
Tells you all you want to know about him.
I am on record many times as saying people who break the law should be prosecuted to the fullest extent
And for the record....my name refers to my hair color when I joined the board years ago
I'm actually thinking of updating it to Whitey/Baldy
Yes, start with the illegal Irish in America, the Cnuts ;D
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 08:21:08 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:12:47 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 07:48:29 PMWhitey still can't/won't condemn thuggery.
Tells you all you want to know about him.
I am on record many times as saying people who break the law should be prosecuted to the fullest extent
And for the record....my name refers to my hair color when I joined the board years ago
I'm actually thinking of updating it to Whitey/Baldy
Yes, start with the illegal Irish in America, the Cnuts ;D
Start with whoever you want
Its a free country
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:30:32 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 08:21:08 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:12:47 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 07:48:29 PMWhitey still can't/won't condemn thuggery.
Tells you all you want to know about him.
I am on record many times as saying people who break the law should be prosecuted to the fullest extent
And for the record....my name refers to my hair color when I joined the board years ago
I'm actually thinking of updating it to Whitey/Baldy
Yes, start with the illegal Irish in America, the Cnuts ;D
Start with whoever you want
Its a free country
Well you are on record for saying prosecuting those that break the law to the fullest extent.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 08:36:45 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:30:32 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 08:21:08 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:12:47 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 07:48:29 PMWhitey still can't/won't condemn thuggery.
Tells you all you want to know about him.
I am on record many times as saying people who break the law should be prosecuted to the fullest extent
And for the record....my name refers to my hair color when I joined the board years ago
I'm actually thinking of updating it to Whitey/Baldy
Yes, start with the illegal Irish in America, the Cnuts ;D
Start with whoever you want
Its a free country
Well you are on record for saying prosecuting those that break the law to the fullest extent.
That's what I said
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:41:27 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 08:36:45 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:30:32 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 08:21:08 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:12:47 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 07:48:29 PMWhitey still can't/won't condemn thuggery.
Tells you all you want to know about him.
I am on record many times as saying people who break the law should be prosecuted to the fullest extent
And for the record....my name refers to my hair color when I joined the board years ago
I'm actually thinking of updating it to Whitey/Baldy
Yes, start with the illegal Irish in America, the Cnuts ;D
Start with whoever you want
Its a free country
Well you are on record for saying prosecuting those that break the law to the fullest extent.
That's what I said
Do you know any? Be the Christian thing to do.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 08:44:05 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:41:27 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 08:36:45 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:30:32 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2024, 08:21:08 PMQuote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:12:47 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 07:48:29 PMWhitey still can't/won't condemn thuggery.
Tells you all you want to know about him.
I am on record many times as saying people who break the law should be prosecuted to the fullest extent
And for the record....my name refers to my hair color when I joined the board years ago
I'm actually thinking of updating it to Whitey/Baldy
Yes, start with the illegal Irish in America, the Cnuts ;D
Start with whoever you want
Its a free country
Well you are on record for saying prosecuting those that break the law to the fullest extent.
That's what I said
Do you know any? Be the Christian thing to do.
Well I have already (several times) shared my opinion on this topic....look it up
"People who break the law should be prosecuted" is not condemning the thuggery/rioting of the nazifascists.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 08:49:36 PM"People who break the law should be prosecuted" is not condemning the thuggery/rioting of the nazifascists.
It is
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 06, 2024, 07:50:44 PMAnyone want to save me 12 minutes and tell me what the video of Nolan and some fella in Sandy Row amounted to.
Didn't watch it all but seemed to be more or less I hate brown people on repeat...
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 06, 2024, 08:56:39 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on August 06, 2024, 07:50:44 PMAnyone want to save me 12 minutes and tell me what the video of Nolan and some fella in Sandy Row amounted to.
Didn't watch it all but seemed to be more or less I hate brown people on repeat...
I watched enough to confirm
While white gangsters flood his area with drugs.
Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 06, 2024, 09:14:07 PMWhile white gangsters flood his area with drugs.
But they're white so it's ok....
The whole thing has shown what a cesspit twitter is too and what a crackpot Elon musk is.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 06, 2024, 07:50:44 PMAnyone want to save me 12 minutes and tell me what the video of Nolan and some fella in Sandy Row amounted to.
Nolan met someone from a loyalist area that even he was disgusted with. Imagine a loyalist Burdy or whitey, oh wait a minute....
Quote from: Itchy on August 06, 2024, 09:40:53 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on August 06, 2024, 07:50:44 PMAnyone want to save me 12 minutes and tell me what the video of Nolan and some fella in Sandy Row amounted to.
Nolan met someone from a loyalist area that even he was disgusted with. Imagine a loyalist Burdy or whitey, oh wait a minute....
He gives people like Bryson and Allister a platform to spout their crap and is surprised that people buy in to it
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2024, 08:50:19 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2024, 08:49:36 PM"People who break the law should be prosecuted" is not condemning the thuggery/rioting of the nazifascists.
It is
Funny, I asked all these anti-nationalists about Leeds, and the silence was deafening.
Anti-nationalists. New plantations.
Laughable language
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 06, 2024, 09:21:34 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 06, 2024, 09:14:07 PMWhile white gangsters flood his area with drugs.
But they're white so it's ok....
Mental!!
"This was a lovely place once! Now it's stinkin'!"
I've known the Sandy Row for 35 odd years I'd love to know when the f**k it was ever lovely!
Quote from: screenexile on August 07, 2024, 01:02:54 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 06, 2024, 09:21:34 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 06, 2024, 09:14:07 PMWhile white gangsters flood his area with drugs.
But they're white so it's ok....
Mental!!
"This was a lovely place once! Now it's stinkin'!"
I've known the Sandy Row for 35 odd years I'd love to know when the f**k it was ever lovely!
Very true, I remember back in the day the rule was whenever you staggered out of the Crescent make sure you headed right instead of left.
It's an absolute shitehole and has never been anything else ;D
Quote from: screenexile on August 07, 2024, 01:02:54 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 06, 2024, 09:21:34 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 06, 2024, 09:14:07 PMWhile white gangsters flood his area with drugs.
But they're white so it's ok....
Mental!!
"This was a lovely place once! Now it's stinkin'!"
I've known the Sandy Row for 35 odd years I'd love to know when the f**k it was ever lovely!
Was never ever a place I wanted to be on. Even now if I have to drive through it I get through as quick as possible
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 07, 2024, 08:08:09 AMQuote from: screenexile on August 07, 2024, 01:02:54 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 06, 2024, 09:21:34 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 06, 2024, 09:14:07 PMWhile white gangsters flood his area with drugs.
But they're white so it's ok....
Mental!!
"This was a lovely place once! Now it's stinkin'!"
I've known the Sandy Row for 35 odd years I'd love to know when the f**k it was ever lovely!
Was never ever a place I wanted to be on. Even now if I have to drive through it I get through as quick as possible
There used to be a really good shoe shop on Sandy Row and was the cheapest for the DM's in my student days.
Why in under god would anyone ever invest in an area like the Sandy Row?
You'd be paying protection money from day one and every June and July the place would be festooned with pallets and shit and you'd end up having to repair your property due to heat damage.
I'm sure Days hotel are regretting setting up there.
Quote from: LC on August 07, 2024, 06:44:03 AMQuote from: screenexile on August 07, 2024, 01:02:54 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 06, 2024, 09:21:34 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 06, 2024, 09:14:07 PMWhile white gangsters flood his area with drugs.
But they're white so it's ok....
Mental!!
"This was a lovely place once! Now it's stinkin'!"
I've known the Sandy Row for 35 odd years I'd love to know when the f**k it was ever lovely!
Very true, I remember back in the day the rule was whenever you staggered out of the Crescent make sure you headed right instead of left.
The Crescent, now there's a blast from the past.
Many a night had in there, dodgy as hell round it.
Was a good shoe shop for kids shoes for school, sure its still there, or maybe not
Was always good for parking, I remember, must be over 20 odd years now (god I'm old) but firm I worked for at the time we used to go to that mad bar/hotel beside Club M, at the end of term, anyways my colleague was looking to park, we stopped found a spot in Sandy Row, Denis got out looking for a parking meter, asked the arm swinging local were the meter was..
"Meters, feck aff, we pulled them f**kers up a long time ago, park were ya want"
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 08:50:01 AMWas a good shoe shop for kids shoes for school, sure its still there, or maybe not
Was always good for parking, I remember, must be over 20 odd years now (god I'm old) but firm I worked for at the time we used to go to that mad bar/hotel beside Club M, at the end of term, anyways my colleague was looking to park, we stopped found a spot in Sandy Row, Denis got out looking for a parking meter, asked the arm swinging local were the meter was..
"Meters, feck aff, we pulled them f**kers up a long time ago, park were ya want"
Reids is vacant/for sale a good while now. Problem for any legitimate business going in they will probably be hit for protection money
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 08:50:01 AMWas a good shoe shop for kids shoes for school, sure its still there, or maybe not
Was always good for parking, I remember, must be over 20 odd years now (god I'm old) but firm I worked for at the time we used to go to that mad bar/hotel beside Club M, at the end of term, anyways my colleague was looking to park, we stopped found a spot in Sandy Row, Denis got out looking for a parking meter, asked the arm swinging local were the meter was..
"Meters, feck aff, we pulled them f**kers up a long time ago, park were ya want"
The shoe shop was called mc conkeys or something similar
August every year on Sandy Row, the shop was flat to the boards...
Worked with a lad, who opened up small engineering shop, gates railings and so on, two days in local gangsters came round explaining the rules. The lad went round to shops and other places besides him, they said try it and see what happens if you don't pay.
He closed the place that day, 2 days opened !! sucking the life blood out of the place.
And complaining about houses not being built in the area! On the Shankill it took 10 years of negotiating before a foundation was dug, as multiple builders refused to pay and left.. What builder would take that on?
Did you ever read about the boy in Tony Roma's? (which is just up from sandy rowe granted but not far away).
The boy was being extorted to the point of them saying we'll just take your business.
It's that old question "why can't we have nice things". Even something like that rioting on saturday night. What kind of wit do people have that if they are rioting they wreck where they live. Then they vote for the ones that do nothing for them. Turkeys and christmas etc.
Scouse Poets do it best (https://x.com/i/status/1820835872993915027)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 09:32:11 AMAugust every year on Sandy Row, the shop was flat to the boards...
Worked with a lad, who opened up small engineering shop, gates railings and so on, two days in local gangsters came round explaining the rules. The lad went round to shops and other places besides him, they said try it and see what happens if you don't pay.
He closed the place that day, 2 days opened !! sucking the life blood out of the place.
And complaining about houses not being built in the area! On the Shankill it took 10 years of negotiating before a foundation was dug, as multiple builders refused to pay and left.. What builder would take that on?
How much do these scumbags take from small businesses? And how far does their "reach" extend area wise? Why anyone would want to open a business there is beyond me.
I would imagine it's pretty much why shaftesbury square is how it is. It extends up towards Queens because they did a number on Tony Romas though I dunno if that is the norm or what.
It's the same with great victoria street. Ruined those areas so it's not like it's just sandy rowe is a shithole - the dregs of it are ruining the surrounding area.
And those scum see themselves as
superior to the rest of the hunan race....
You can paint a picture lots of ways.
Nolan tweets:
Businessman tells Nolan Show 3 men walked into his building close to the Falls Rd and told him if he opened his new shop , he would be attacked everyday .
The businessman actually said it was "4 or 5 minutes from the Falls Rd, beside Tesco".
That's going to be in Loyalist Ballygomartin.
Anyone able to put some meat on these "legitimate" concerns?
Quote from: TabClear on August 07, 2024, 12:15:16 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 09:32:11 AMAugust every year on Sandy Row, the shop was flat to the boards...
Worked with a lad, who opened up small engineering shop, gates railings and so on, two days in local gangsters came round explaining the rules. The lad went round to shops and other places besides him, they said try it and see what happens if you don't pay.
He closed the place that day, 2 days opened !! sucking the life blood out of the place.
And complaining about houses not being built in the area! On the Shankill it took 10 years of negotiating before a foundation was dug, as multiple builders refused to pay and left.. What builder would take that on?
How much do these scumbags take from small businesses? And how far does their "reach" extend area wise? Why anyone would want to open a business there is beyond me.
A family friend opened up a shop on the Shore Rd early 90s.. Within a few days of opening he got a visit from the local 'security firm', £250 / week to protect. He closed it within 2 months, stress was crazy
My brother owned a butchers on the Falls rd, was never asked or never gave anything..
That said there was a protection racket that went on for many years, it fell away early 90's
Quote from: johnnycool on August 07, 2024, 12:43:45 PMAnyone able to put some meat on these "legitimate" concerns?
My legitimate concerns are about integration and the lack of planning around it. For example the 100 refugees will be put in an area. No contact is made with local sports clubs etc about getting the new people involved in society. Its totally up to the sports club and other groups and no help is provided by government. I dont like that the 100 could possibly end up in a "ghetto" divided from the rest of society. Then what is the end game. How do we get these people out into their own accommodation, working and contributing. There doesnt seem to be a lot happening around this. In fact in the south they are not allowed even get a job for the 1st 9 months they land here. I would consider those legitimate concerns. You wont hear those from the racists though.
Quote from: Itchy on August 07, 2024, 01:21:21 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 07, 2024, 12:43:45 PMAnyone able to put some meat on these "legitimate" concerns?
My legitimate concerns are about integration and the lack of planning around it. For example the 100 refugees will be put in an area. No contact is made with local sports clubs etc about getting the new people involved in society. Its totally up to the sports club and other groups and no help is provided by government. I dont like that the 100 could possibly end up in a "ghetto" divided from the rest of society. Then what is the end game. How do we get these people out into their own accommodation, working and contributing. There doesnt seem to be a lot happening around this. In fact in the south they are not allowed even get a job for the 1st 9 months they land here. I would consider those legitimate concerns. You wont hear those from the racists though.
There's nothing there that's unsurmountable and ultimately on the various branches of government at whatever levels to address.
That's the very same government though that struggles to resolve the housing, healthcare, education issues that are already prevalent in society and that's the sticking point, not the actual immigrants/refugees themselves.
Just watching The free state of Jones on Netflix, set around the 1865 period of America in the deep south. People looking at refugees the same way 160 years ago, nothing changes. You'd think society has moved on, you'd think the human race has changed for the better. Not sure it has in a lot of respects
The government hasn't prepared at all for what's been coming, they still seem to have not got infrastructure started yet, to be in a better place to integrate people into a new country.
Get these lads working, get them into apprenticeships, work experience, having them off the streets and working will help with the paranoia of locals saying they are looking at their women, unlike the other locals that look at their women, they do it differently!
Speed up the process for sorting out the illegals and those that are genuine asylum seekers.
The problem lies with those in government that have put the measures in place.
If we look at how brexit hasn't actually helped with the boats then refusing or trying to stop them coming needs to be revisited as the current methods don't stop them coming.
Which country is dealing with it the best and see if that model works here?
Australia?
Quote from: johnnycool on August 07, 2024, 02:16:21 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 07, 2024, 01:21:21 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 07, 2024, 12:43:45 PMAnyone able to put some meat on these "legitimate" concerns?
My legitimate concerns are about integration and the lack of planning around it. For example the 100 refugees will be put in an area. No contact is made with local sports clubs etc about getting the new people involved in society. Its totally up to the sports club and other groups and no help is provided by government. I dont like that the 100 could possibly end up in a "ghetto" divided from the rest of society. Then what is the end game. How do we get these people out into their own accommodation, working and contributing. There doesnt seem to be a lot happening around this. In fact in the south they are not allowed even get a job for the 1st 9 months they land here. I would consider those legitimate concerns. You wont hear those from the racists though.
There's nothing there that's unsurmountable and ultimately on the various branches of government at whatever levels to address.
That's the very same government though that struggles to resolve the housing, healthcare, education issues that are already prevalent in society and that's the sticking point, not the actual immigrants/refugees themselves.
Exactly and that is what I think we should be working on, not burning buildings and acting like a bunch of mindless thugs
The Government spent the last few years in "Nothing to do with us, it's Roderic O'Gorman's Dept" mode.
And depending on the private sector to put up Refugees.
No long term plan or strategy.
They probably could have limped on like that for a few years more but Putin invaded Ukraine......
The mindless thugs/arsonists will still be mindless thugs and arsonists....
Australia not in a Common Travel Area and not in the EU.
Most residents there are living on stolen land ....
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2024, 03:13:24 PMAustralia not in a Common Travel Area and not in the EU.
Most residents there are living on stolen land ....
And has no land border.
Bar the natives are they not totally made up of Immigrants? For a country that had its first convicts immigrants arrived it was nearly the start of the 1800's! Its a 'new' country, give it a chance to have better dingy's to get across the Timor see from Jakarta .. Only 199 have made it ;)
Australia has a long history of providing resettlement for refugees and others who are displaced as a result of conflict, persecution and human rights abuses. Since the end of World War II, Australia has successfully settled more than 950,000 refugees and others in humanitarian need
Pity they wouldn't be as generous to the peoples they displaced and tried to eradicate.....
World Poverty and Immigration - What is the solution? (https://www.tiktok.com/@honey_v0/video/7399929922883505440)
A nice lesson in the scale and mathematics of Immigration.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 04:10:42 PMBar the natives are they not totally made up of Immigrants? For a country that had its first convicts immigrants arrived it was nearly the start of the 1800's! Its a 'new' country, give it a chance to have better dingy's to get across the Timor see from Jakarta .. Only 199 have made it ;)
Australia has a long history of providing resettlement for refugees and others who are displaced as a result of conflict, persecution and human rights abuses. Since the end of World War II, Australia has successfully settled more than 950,000 refugees and others in humanitarian need
When I was in Australia 10 years ago they were fighting elections on a 'stop the boats' platform - at that time, from memory, those that were arriving illegally by boat were transferred to Christmas Island for processing, not sure they are the standard bearers.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2024, 04:28:25 PMPity they wouldn't be as generous to the peoples they displaced and tried to eradicate.....
Well now - isn't a lesson in that?!
Quote from: burdizzo on August 07, 2024, 04:58:22 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2024, 04:28:25 PMPity they wouldn't be as generous to the peoples they displaced and tried to eradicate.....
Well now - isn't a lesson in that?!
You aren't being displaced and nobody is trying to eradicate you
Australia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Yeah they do it well.
Australia is also a little bit bigger than Ireland.... They are suffering with housing shortages especially in major cities though.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 05:43:41 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Yeah they do it well.
Australia is also a little bit bigger than Ireland.... They are suffering with housing shortages especially in major cities though.
You've driven through Ireland? There's plenty places to build new towns.. only 5 odd million living here most of that's in Dublin
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Exactly so use a model that works and use migration as a benefit, the economy would be better for it.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 05:59:47 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Exactly so use a model that works and use migration as a benefit, the economy would be better for it.
100% agree
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 05:43:41 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Yeah they do it well.
Australia is also a little bit bigger than Ireland.... They are suffering with housing shortages especially in major cities though.
Again - no one gets it right all the time. Disability is going to kick you out without case by case exceptions being made.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyr70ezev2mo (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyr70ezev2mo)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 05:57:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 05:43:41 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Yeah they do it well.
Australia is also a little bit bigger than Ireland.... They are suffering with housing shortages especially in major cities though.
You've driven through Ireland? There's plenty places to build new towns.. only 5 odd million living here most of that's in Dublin
?????
7m approx in all Ireland
5.2m in 26 Cos
1.5m at most in Dublin City and County.
As I pointed out already Australia hasn't a Common Travel Area with 60m people or part of a free movement block of 450m+.
All those people are quite near us.
Australia's nearest neighbour is a thinly populated pair of islands 2,500 kms away.
If ye want Australia's system we'll have to leave CTA and EU.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 05:57:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 05:43:41 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Yeah they do it well.
Australia is also a little bit bigger than Ireland.... They are suffering with housing shortages especially in major cities though.
You've driven through Ireland? There's plenty places to build new towns.. only 5 odd million living here most of that's in Dublin
Not everyone wants to live in a concrete jungle.
Houses aren't the whole story, infrastructure, support services and seemingly simple things like being connected to the sewer system seem to cause serious issues.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/company-director-sobs-court-remanded-middlesbrough-riots/
if people just think its just unemployed people involved in the far right they are wrong the construction industry is massive breeding ground for the far right.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 07, 2024, 07:07:23 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 05:57:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 05:43:41 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Yeah they do it well.
Australia is also a little bit bigger than Ireland.... They are suffering with housing shortages especially in major cities though.
You've driven through Ireland? There's plenty places to build new towns.. only 5 odd million living here most of that's in Dublin
Not everyone wants to live in a concrete jungle.
Been to Dublin recently? Think plenty people do
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/07/wife-tory-councillor-arrested-inciting-racial-hatred/
Sadly an Irish surname....
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2024, 06:37:59 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 05:57:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 05:43:41 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Yeah they do it well.
Australia is also a little bit bigger than Ireland.... They are suffering with housing shortages especially in major cities though.
You've driven through Ireland? There's plenty places to build new towns.. only 5 odd million living here most of that's in Dublin
?????
7m approx in all Ireland
5.2m in 26 Cos
1.5m at most in Dublin City and County.
As I pointed out already Australia hasn't a Common Travel Area with 60m people or part of a free movement block of 450m+.
All those people are quite near us.
Australia's nearest neighbour is a thinly populated pair of islands 2,500 kms away.
If ye want Australia's system we'll have to leave CTA and EU.
Do you believe there's no room?
Outside of the Ukrainians, what's the actual rate of people coming in?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 05:57:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 05:43:41 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Yeah they do it well.
Australia is also a little bit bigger than Ireland.... They are suffering with housing shortages especially in major cities though.
You've driven through Ireland? There's plenty places to build new towns.. only 5 odd million living here most of that's in Dublin
There may be empty places in Ireland, but people do not want to live there and even if they did who would build houses there. This kind of comment is merely intended to derail sensible discussion.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2024, 08:06:47 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/07/wife-tory-councillor-arrested-inciting-racial-hatred/
Sadly an Irish surname....
There was a Liam Riley amongst the 3 lads convicted in Liverpool.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2024, 08:06:47 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/07/wife-tory-councillor-arrested-inciting-racial-hatred/
Sadly an Irish surname....
Idiots are the children of migrants
Quote from: armaghniac on August 07, 2024, 09:56:23 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2024, 05:57:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 05:43:41 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 07, 2024, 05:41:33 PMAustralia has a skills based immigration policy, that's the difference in there and a lot of places. You can't arrive and sit and scratch forever.
Yeah they do it well.
Australia is also a little bit bigger than Ireland.... They are suffering with housing shortages especially in major cities though.
You've driven through Ireland? There's plenty places to build new towns.. only 5 odd million living here most of that's in Dublin
There may be empty places in Ireland, but people do not want to live there and even if they did who would build houses there. This kind of comment is merely intended to derail sensible discussion.
The point is simple, the infrastructure is not there but needs to put in place before taking people in. At the minute they have went arse about face with carrying out any sort of due diligence.
Could argue that Russia invading Ukraine hasn't helped, the problem is not with those coming in but those that haven't put things in place.
Embrace the migrants and build the country
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 07, 2024, 10:03:44 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2024, 08:06:47 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/07/wife-tory-councillor-arrested-inciting-racial-hatred/
Sadly an Irish surname....
There was a Liam Riley amongst the 3 lads convicted in Liverpool.
2nd generation usually.
Ironic or what? They just don't get it unfortunately.
Seems the English have started to push back against the thugs in a good number of Cities.
Here is a decent long form conversation which proposes how we might be where we are.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6gvcw0bQXlkbecT5tEQH0n?si=1C0-xzZiQJSNDBrBroum1g
Quote from: marty34 on August 07, 2024, 10:51:30 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on August 07, 2024, 10:03:44 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2024, 08:06:47 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/07/wife-tory-councillor-arrested-inciting-racial-hatred/
Sadly an Irish surname....
There was a Liam Riley amongst the 3 lads convicted in Liverpool.
2nd generation usually.
Ironic or what? They just don't get it unfortunately.
An O'Malley sentenced for disorder in Southport.
Quote from: Last Man on August 08, 2024, 07:51:50 AMHere is a decent long form conversation which proposes how we might be where we are.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6gvcw0bQXlkbecT5tEQH0n?si=1C0-xzZiQJSNDBrBroum1g
Listened to much of it, and what I'm gathering is that we should take the heat from using words like far right less, and its ok to talk about immigration, but then there is a lot of stuff about unfettered Muslims entering the country and Shira law and no integration between communities, which I think is very true across most immigrants, not just muslims.
It's fine to talk about it but some people do stray off and whether its far right or far left and you only have to watch the Nolan interview of the guy outside the pub in Belfast to know this, and anyone agreeing with that type really needs to have a hard look at themselves
He then mentioned the top name in the UK for boys names is Muhammad (it was Noah this year and 2022 btw) and in girls the only muslim name is top 6, but that wouldn't suit his agenda
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2024, 02:04:42 PMQuote from: Last Man on August 08, 2024, 07:51:50 AMHere is a decent long form conversation which proposes how we might be where we are.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6gvcw0bQXlkbecT5tEQH0n?si=1C0-xzZiQJSNDBrBroum1g
Listened to much of it, and what I'm gathering is that we should take the heat from using words like far right less, and its ok to talk about immigration, but then there is a lot of stuff about unfettered Muslims entering the country and Shira law and no integration between communities, which I think is very true across most immigrants, not just muslims.
It's fine to talk about it but some people do stray off and whether its far right or far left and you only have to watch the Nolan interview of the guy outside the pub in Belfast to know this, and anyone agreeing with that type really needs to have a hard look at themselves
He then mentioned the top name in the UK for boys names is Muhammad (it was Noah this year and 2022 btw) and in girls the only muslim name is top 6, but that wouldn't suit his agenda
Are you assuming he has an agenda so therefore should be discounted completely. I personally dont know anyone who I 100% agree with on everything. The way I see it the world is full of headers and all the virtue sinalling you can muster will not keep them at bay if political conditions give them their moment in the sun. It is the job of polititions and governments to maintain a stable society. We are being distracted by the antics of these eejits when we should be asking the politions and government how they let it get to this!!
I wouldn't count attacking police, burning shops, hotels etc, beating up people with dark skin as "antics of eejits"!!
Quote from: Last Man on August 08, 2024, 03:35:22 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2024, 02:04:42 PMQuote from: Last Man on August 08, 2024, 07:51:50 AMHere is a decent long form conversation which proposes how we might be where we are.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6gvcw0bQXlkbecT5tEQH0n?si=1C0-xzZiQJSNDBrBroum1g
Listened to much of it, and what I'm gathering is that we should take the heat from using words like far right less, and its ok to talk about immigration, but then there is a lot of stuff about unfettered Muslims entering the country and Shira law and no integration between communities, which I think is very true across most immigrants, not just muslims.
It's fine to talk about it but some people do stray off and whether its far right or far left and you only have to watch the Nolan interview of the guy outside the pub in Belfast to know this, and anyone agreeing with that type really needs to have a hard look at themselves
He then mentioned the top name in the UK for boys names is Muhammad (it was Noah this year and 2022 btw) and in girls the only muslim name is top 6, but that wouldn't suit his agenda
Are you assuming he has an agenda so therefore should be discounted completely. I personally dont know anyone who I 100% agree with on everything. The way I see it the world is full of headers and all the virtue sinalling you can muster will not keep them at bay if political conditions give them their moment in the sun. It is the job of polititions and governments to maintain a stable society. We are being distracted by the antics of these eejits when we should be asking the politions and government how they let it get to this!!
I'm saying everyone has an opinion, his is based on his own background, upbringing and from his professional job of being a police officer, who to be fair have never covered themselves in glory with regards to being inclusive/fair to minorities.
I'm only an expert in my area of work, coming on here is just giving opinions on topics, some threads do go off the rails, people will lose their heads every now and then, I know that if people actually sat down with someone face to face then there would be a lot of common ground.
In work I tend to teams/facetime colleagues as it better than a email or text, some people find it difficult to converse or understand emails or get the wrong in of the stick.
The sticking plaster that the Tories have been using is ready to burst and if Labour can't fix it, they'll be gone soon.
A proper joined up approach is needed, but never mind the ones coming in on boats. They would need to look after what's already here..
I don't think Ireland north and south has anything on that scale and won't, cause if it was going to happen, it would be like the UK already.
Profile of a 'concerned resident' from Belfast:
https://x.com/soundmigration/status/1821274098934411321?s=46
Gruesome.
A heroine of a few people in here
Remember this well at the time, just chilling, cold, evil.
Humans can be horrible
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2024, 11:32:59 AMRemember this well at the time, just chilling, cold, evil.
Humans can be horrible
Chilled me to the bone reading that. Absolutely despicable. That creature didn't even do jail time for that. She is every bit a killer as much as the men that carried it out.
The Scandinavian nation of 10.6 million people is facing a national crisis because of its failure to successfully integrate record numbers of immigrants. (https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/sweden-immigrants-crisis/)
https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2024/0809/1464217-threat/
I see a lot of stuff starting to appear about Robinson and who is backing him financially. Himself and probably farage a major catalyst for the last week or so in the uk. Be nice if Nigel was found out too but probably too clever.
These boys laughing all the way to the bank while a lot of their useful idiots will get criminal records and lessen their prospects of doing anything with their lives even further.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2024, 11:32:59 AMRemember this well at the time, just chilling, cold, evil.
Humans can be horrible
Aye. Thank god we have, mainly, moved away from that
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 09, 2024, 02:03:15 PMThese boys laughing all the way to the bank while a lot of their useful idiots will get criminal records and lessen their prospects of doing anything with their lives even further.
I read one the men sent to prison had just turned 18 that day and just joined in because everyone else was it. Few years in jail now as a result and the ring leaders will just pull someone elses strings to do the same again.
Quote from: square_ball on August 09, 2024, 03:32:31 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 09, 2024, 02:03:15 PMThese boys laughing all the way to the bank while a lot of their useful idiots will get criminal records and lessen their prospects of doing anything with their lives even further.
I read one the men sent to prison had just turned 18 that day and just joined in because everyone else was it. Few years in jail now as a result and the ring leaders will just pull someone elses strings to do the same again.
If they had started doing this with these young loyalists here few years ago it might have put a stop to this recreational rioting every summer.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 09, 2024, 02:03:15 PMThese boys laughing all the way to the bank while a lot of their useful idiots will get criminal records and lessen their prospects of doing anything with their lives even further.
Our resident Twitter/X contributor does exactly this.
Will try to be as controversial as possible - then all the naysayers call him every name under the sun which is just giving him more interaction and oxygen.
How they dont realise they are part of the problem is beyond me
Yep. The Irish news platforms him too. I want to read or her nothing about him but it's hard.
The last line in this piece is the punch line (https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGevbHMNe/)
Quote from: Taylor on August 09, 2024, 03:57:43 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 09, 2024, 02:03:15 PMThese boys laughing all the way to the bank while a lot of their useful idiots will get criminal records and lessen their prospects of doing anything with their lives even further.
Our resident Twitter/X contributor does exactly this.
Will try to be as controversial as possible - then all the naysayers call him every name under the sun which is just giving him more interaction and oxygen.
How they dont realise they are part of the problem is beyond me
Assume you mean Bryson? I have him blocked thankfully but he still creeps up on my feed from time to time when people screenshot his tweets and post them
I see the racists were well outnumbered in Belfast tonight.
They're now saying "we won't be 2nd class citizens"
Was wondering how long before the "victim" card would be payed.
Do they want someone to give them restaurants?
Or jobs as doctors/nurses?
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2024, 09:14:48 PMI see the racists were well outnumbered in Belfast tonight.
They're now saying "we won't be 2nd class citizens"
Was wondering how long before the "victim" card would be payed.
Do they want someone to give them restaurants?
Or jobs as doctors/nurses?
Billy with his grade c gcse in woodwork complaining about someone taking his Job as a dentist
I would say that a lot of foreign people are being put out of sandy rowe / village area. There have been quite a few incidents this week. To me it seems to be more or less ethnic cleansing in those areas - they're going to put as many foreigners out as they can and scare the rest out.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 09, 2024, 09:45:52 PMI would say that a lot of foreign people are being put out of sandy rowe / village area. There have been quite a few incidents this week. To me it seems to be more or less ethnic cleansing in those areas - they're going to put as many foreigners out as they can and scare the rest out.
There won't be many living in that area if they do, the percentage of immigrants living there is high enough
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2024, 10:52:24 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 09, 2024, 09:45:52 PMI would say that a lot of foreign people are being put out of sandy rowe / village area. There have been quite a few incidents this week. To me it seems to be more or less ethnic cleansing in those areas - they're going to put as many foreigners out as they can and scare the rest out.
There won't be many living in that area if they do, the percentage of immigrants living there is high enough
There would be nobody left in the village if they put all the foreigners out.
I drove through Sandy Row earlier and saw a few people of colour walking about.
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 09, 2024, 10:58:59 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2024, 10:52:24 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 09, 2024, 09:45:52 PMI would say that a lot of foreign people are being put out of sandy rowe / village area. There have been quite a few incidents this week. To me it seems to be more or less ethnic cleansing in those areas - they're going to put as many foreigners out as they can and scare the rest out.
There won't be many living in that area if they do, the percentage of immigrants living there is high enough
There would be nobody left in the village if they put all the foreigners out.
I drove through Sandy Row earlier and saw a few people of colour walking about.
Are they not all foreigners in Sandy Row
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2024, 09:36:39 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2024, 09:14:48 PMI see the racists were well outnumbered in Belfast tonight.
They're now saying "we won't be 2nd class citizens"
Was wondering how long before the "victim" card would be payed.
Do they want someone to give them restaurants?
Or jobs as doctors/nurses?
Billy with his grade c gcse in woodwork complaining about someone taking his Job as a dentist
In places like Sandy Row this is the equivalent of a Masters as the majority of people in these areas would be as thick as mince.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 09, 2024, 09:45:52 PMI would say that a lot of foreign people are being put out of sandy rowe / village area. There have been quite a few incidents this week. To me it seems to be more or less ethnic cleansing in those areas - they're going to put as many foreigners out as they can and scare the rest out.
Doing them a favour- get the f**k outta that kip.
Lots of business in town last lost out due to the media and police hyping up the possibility of riots.
People didn't bother
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2024, 11:39:09 AMLots of business in town last lost out due to the media and police hyping up the possibility of riots.
People didn't bother
Neighbour of mine down here had planned family weekend away to Belfast this weekend, they cancelled it. I'm sure that was a common occurrence.
Belfast full of tourists most weekends - these protests will not be good for it. (Meaning there'll be less jobs about for the fuckwits protesting assuming some of them want a job).
Listening to the local radio there today when driving somewhere and there were about five racist attacks last night and been the same all week. Depressing.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 10, 2024, 09:16:30 PMBelfast full of tourists most weekends - these protests will not be good for it. (Meaning there'll be less jobs about for the fuckwits protesting assuming some of them want a job).
Listening to the local radio there today when driving somewhere and there were about five racist attacks last night and been the same all week. Depressing.
Supremists need to have their foot on someone's throat, immigrants have unfortunately (for them} taken the place of taigs
https://www.thejournal.ie/dundrum-tipperary-asylum-seekers-6456372-Aug2024/
A load of children who were pelting police with petrol bombs yesterday in derry on behalf of dissident republicans probably but dope far right types online were trying to say it was about immigration id say some knew that but continue to spread the lie.
Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 11, 2024, 02:43:03 AMhttps://www.thejournal.ie/dundrum-tipperary-asylum-seekers-6456372-Aug2024/
Those fkn eejits get sillier by the day ::)
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2024, 10:34:21 AMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 11, 2024, 02:43:03 AMhttps://www.thejournal.ie/dundrum-tipperary-asylum-seekers-6456372-Aug2024/
Those fkn eejits get sillier by the day ::)
One for skull in there...
Last month, a group made up of mainly Dundrum residents lodged 230 affidavits with the High Court complaining about the housing of asylum seekers at the hotel. However it was roundly rejected by Mr Justice David Holland who said the application by residents was claiming that international protection applicants were "more likely to be burglars than those staying as guests at the hotel or Ukrainian refugees".The judge must be in on the conspiracy too
And another of Burdy and company's
fine upstanding heroes.....
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/irish-patriot-who-marched-with-loyalist-mob-facing-drug-charges-while-shankill-residents-cheer-disorder-arrest/a1925790651.html
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2024, 10:56:26 AMAnd another of Burdy and company's
fine upstanding heroes.....
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/irish-patriot-who-marched-with-loyalist-mob-facing-drug-charges-while-shankill-residents-cheer-disorder-arrest/a1925790651.html
Makes sense, refugees haven't the money to be buying cocaine so bad for business letting them in.
Looking at this stream, the Globalists would be rubbing their hand with glee. People wasting their time looking at bit part criminals and talking them up as if they were the enemy. Most are payed-up actors.
All causing a distraction from the real issues that lie ahead from us. So please forget about these fools and look at the real issues and the real peaceful people in various communities who see the what is happening and hoping to not see their communities destroyed.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 06:43:09 PMLooking at this stream, the Globalists would be rubbing their hand with glee. People wasting their time looking at bit part criminals and talking them up as if they were the enemy. Most are payed-up actors.
All causing a distraction from the real issues that lie ahead from us. So please forget about these fools and look at the real issues and the real peaceful people in various communities who see the what is happening and hoping to not see their communities destroyed.
Destroyed? How? Don't run away this time, answer how these communities will be destroyed please.
Quote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 07:09:21 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 06:43:09 PMLooking at this stream, the Globalists would be rubbing their hand with glee. People wasting their time looking at bit part criminals and talking them up as if they were the enemy. Most are payed-up actors.
All causing a distraction from the real issues that lie ahead from us. So please forget about these fools and look at the real issues and the real peaceful people in various communities who see the what is happening and hoping to not see their communities destroyed.
Destroyed? How? Don't run away this time, answer how these communities will be destroyed please.
My goodness, Itchy - which NGO do you work for?
Quote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 07:09:21 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 06:43:09 PMLooking at this stream, the Globalists would be rubbing their hand with glee. People wasting their time looking at bit part criminals and talking them up as if they were the enemy. Most are payed-up actors.
All causing a distraction from the real issues that lie ahead from us. So please forget about these fools and look at the real issues and the real peaceful people in various communities who see the what is happening and hoping to not see their communities destroyed.
Destroyed? How? Don't run away this time, answer how these communities will be destroyed please.
Not running - just not engaging if this turns into you calling me a Racist and Far Right.
I am neither.
But this does not mean that I don't have my eyes open. Look at the flow of money.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 07:25:58 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 07:09:21 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 06:43:09 PMLooking at this stream, the Globalists would be rubbing their hand with glee. People wasting their time looking at bit part criminals and talking them up as if they were the enemy. Most are payed-up actors.
All causing a distraction from the real issues that lie ahead from us. So please forget about these fools and look at the real issues and the real peaceful people in various communities who see the what is happening and hoping to not see their communities destroyed.
Destroyed? How? Don't run away this time, answer how these communities will be destroyed please.
Not running - just not engaging if this turns into you calling me a Racist and Far Right.
I am neither.
But this does not mean that I don't have my eyes open. Look at the flow of money.
I'll ask again. How are communities being destroyed? When your at it can you give us an example of a destroyed community and how the destruction has manifested itself.
Quote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 08:02:25 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 07:25:58 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 07:09:21 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 06:43:09 PMLooking at this stream, the Globalists would be rubbing their hand with glee. People wasting their time looking at bit part criminals and talking them up as if they were the enemy. Most are payed-up actors.
All causing a distraction from the real issues that lie ahead from us. So please forget about these fools and look at the real issues and the real peaceful people in various communities who see the what is happening and hoping to not see their communities destroyed.
Destroyed? How? Don't run away this time, answer how these communities will be destroyed please.
Not running - just not engaging if this turns into you calling me a Racist and Far Right.
I am neither.
But this does not mean that I don't have my eyes open. Look at the flow of money.
I'll ask again. How are communities being destroyed? When your at it can you give us an example of a destroyed community and how the destruction has manifested itself.
Anything I say will be construed as Racist and exaggerated. Private firms are making Millions from this orchestrated exercise. Large volumes of Males are being brought in to communities. Regular Immigration usually sees people come into a country as a family unit or as an individual - not as large group of people.
22% of our population are now immigrants. This has happened with a mild flow inwards. But we are dealing with a Tsunami now. The large amount of young Adult males in particular will cause a huge demographic imbalance of Male to Female. A young adult human being as a living being desires a partner.
From a Sovereign state point of view. People not born here have a lesser tie emotionally to their adopted country. The more this gets diluted, the more susceptible a country becomes to issues.
In a controlled way, we can still help people who need help. We can embrace other cultures. But there has to be a system in place to control this.
This is not a Left v Right issue or a Racist v Non Racist issue. They are just terms used to divide people while the rich get richer doing their stuff in the background.
There is more to this and you will just have to research that yourself.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 11, 2024, 08:19:45 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 08:02:25 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 07:25:58 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 07:09:21 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 06:43:09 PMLooking at this stream, the Globalists would be rubbing their hand with glee. People wasting their time looking at bit part criminals and talking them up as if they were the enemy. Most are payed-up actors.
All causing a distraction from the real issues that lie ahead from us. So please forget about these fools and look at the real issues and the real peaceful people in various communities who see the what is happening and hoping to not see their communities destroyed.
Destroyed? How? Don't run away this time, answer how these communities will be destroyed please.
Not running - just not engaging if this turns into you calling me a Racist and Far Right.
I am neither.
But this does not mean that I don't have my eyes open. Look at the flow of money.
I'll ask again. How are communities being destroyed? When your at it can you give us an example of a destroyed community and how the destruction has manifested itself.
He cant! Of course they're not destroyed - typical of racist rhetoric to cause hysteria. As far as I know 10% of Dungannon is now made up of migrant population. Is far from destroyed... plus is no-one managing to mobilise this far right crowd there albeit there has been attempts down the years.
Dungannon must be at least 25% migrant now not 10% but they continue to play an important part in the community. The vast majority work and pay their taxes, they play Soccer and GAA. Drive past the Chapel on a Sunday morning and there will be a lot of East Timor attending.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 08:23:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 08:02:25 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 07:25:58 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 07:09:21 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 06:43:09 PMLooking at this stream, the Globalists would be rubbing their hand with glee. People wasting their time looking at bit part criminals and talking them up as if they were the enemy. Most are payed-up actors.
All causing a distraction from the real issues that lie ahead from us. So please forget about these fools and look at the real issues and the real peaceful people in various communities who see the what is happening and hoping to not see their communities destroyed.
Destroyed? How? Don't run away this time, answer how these communities will be destroyed please.
Not running - just not engaging if this turns into you calling me a Racist and Far Right.
I am neither.
But this does not mean that I don't have my eyes open. Look at the flow of money.
I'll ask again. How are communities being destroyed? When your at it can you give us an example of a destroyed community and how the destruction has manifested itself.
Anything I say will be construed as Racist and exaggerated. Private firms are making Millions from this orchestrated exercise. Large volumes of Males are being brought in to communities. Regular Immigration usually sees people come into a country as a family unit or as an individual - not as large group of people.
22% of our population are now immigrants. This has happened with a mild flow inwards. But we are dealing with a Tsunami now. The large amount of young Adult males in particular will cause a huge demographic imbalance of Male to Female. A young adult human being as a living being desires a partner.
From a Sovereign state point of view. People not born here have a lesser tie emotionally to their adopted country. The more this gets diluted, the more susceptible a country becomes to issues.
In a controlled way, we can still help people who need help. We can embrace other cultures. But there has to be a system in place to control this.
This is not a Left v Right issue or a Racist v Non Racist issue. They are just terms used to divide people while the rich get richer doing their stuff in the background.
There is more to this and you will just have to research that yourself.
I've done my research and I put it to you that you have not in that post demonstrated how a community is destroyed nor have you provided any examples or data. It's simply waffle with no basis and fear mongering. I also put it to you that communities were being damaged long before any refugee crisis, with government policy centring all industry in big cities, pulling people away from rural areas. Some towns like ghost towns and could do with an influx of new people. But ah, those new people might look a bit different so that might further destroy those places?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 08:23:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 08:02:25 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 07:25:58 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 07:09:21 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 06:43:09 PMLooking at this stream, the Globalists would be rubbing their hand with glee. People wasting their time looking at bit part criminals and talking them up as if they were the enemy. Most are payed-up actors.
All causing a distraction from the real issues that lie ahead from us. So please forget about these fools and look at the real issues and the real peaceful people in various communities who see the what is happening and hoping to not see their communities destroyed.
Destroyed? How? Don't run away this time, answer how these communities will be destroyed please.
Not running - just not engaging if this turns into you calling me a Racist and Far Right.
I am neither.
But this does not mean that I don't have my eyes open. Look at the flow of money.
I'll ask again. How are communities being destroyed? When your at it can you give us an example of a destroyed community and how the destruction has manifested itself.
Anything I say will be construed as Racist and exaggerated. Private firms are making Millions from this orchestrated exercise. Large volumes of Males are being brought in to communities. Regular Immigration usually sees people come into a country as a family unit or as an individual - not as large group of people.
22% of our population are now immigrants. This has happened with a mild flow inwards. But we are dealing with a Tsunami now. The large amount of young Adult males in particular will cause a huge demographic imbalance of Male to Female. A young adult human being as a living being desires a partner.
From a Sovereign state point of view. People not born here have a lesser tie emotionally to their adopted country. The more this gets diluted, the more susceptible a country becomes to issues.
In a controlled way, we can still help people who need help. We can embrace other cultures. But there has to be a system in place to control this.
This is not a Left v Right issue or a Racist v Non Racist issue. They are just terms used to divide people while the rich get richer doing their stuff in the background.
There is more to this and you will just have to research that yourself.
Ah come on lad. The world is a better place with a mix of colour and culture. You think a child of an immigrant born and bred here (see the Olympics, football etc has less of an emotional tie??!) .. Get out a bit more
- Burd has just boked over his mammy's laptop
They don't mind black females so much. It's the dreaded single males who only come here to rape and pilage apparently.
Yeah, right. Smug northern anti-nationalists may one day realise that cutting off their nose to spite their face was not such a great idea. Dungannon might be 10%, 20%, 30% foreign (why not? Plenty of towns in the south are that way), but when it gets to 60%, 70%, then you'll start wondering. I'm afraid mutli-culturalism is a one-way street.
When I see " We (or Govt/Harris/McEntee) are "bringing(sic)" immigrants into the Country I stop reading.
Only people "bringing" people into the State are employers who get work permits to fill vacancies.
And the "destroying communities"....
It's amazing how those that spout that line can't answer 2 simple questions - how? Where?
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 11, 2024, 10:10:23 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 11, 2024, 10:06:21 PMYeah, right. Smug northern anti-nationalists may one day realise that cutting off their nose to spite their face was not such a great idea. Dungannon might be 10%, 20%, 30% foreign (why not? Plenty of towns in the south are that way), but when it gets to 60%, 70%, then you'll start wondering. I'm afraid mutli-culturalism is a one-way street.
The hatred of the 'other' be it north, migrant... flying out of this freestater...
Do yourself a favour, but that racist and the other one whitey on ignore in your settings.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 11, 2024, 10:06:21 PMYeah, right. Smug northern anti-nationalists may one day realise that cutting off their nose to spite their face was not such a great idea. Dungannon might be 10%, 20%, 30% foreign (why not? Plenty of towns in the south are that way), but when it gets to 60%, 70%, then you'll start wondering. I'm afraid mutli-culturalism is a one-way street.
Northern anti nationalists.
Here's a suggestion. Turn the computer off. Put some clothes on. Leave your mums basement. Get out into the real world. Enjoy
Anything I say will be construed as Racist and exaggerated. Private firms are making Millions from this orchestrated exercise. Large volumes of Males are being brought in to communities. Regular Immigration usually sees people come into a country as a family unit or as an individual - not as large group of people.
22% of our population are now immigrants. This has happened with a mild flow inwards. But we are dealing with a Tsunami now. The large amount of young Adult males in particular will cause a huge demographic imbalance of Male to Female. A young adult human being as a living being desires a partner.
From a Sovereign state point of view. People not born here have a lesser tie emotionally to their adopted country. The more this gets diluted, the more susceptible a country becomes to issues.
In a controlled way, we can still help people who need help. We can embrace other cultures. But there has to be a system in place to control this.
This is not a Left v Right issue or a Racist v Non Racist issue. They are just terms used to divide people while the rich get richer doing their stuff in the background.
There is more to this and you will just have to research that yourself.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 10:26:15 PMAnything I say will be construed as Racist and exaggerated. Private firms are making Millions from this orchestrated exercise. Large volumes of Males are being brought in to communities. Regular Immigration usually sees people come into a country as a family unit or as an individual - not as large group of people.
22% of our population are now immigrants. This has happened with a mild flow inwards. But we are dealing with a Tsunami now. The large amount of young Adult males in particular will cause a huge demographic imbalance of Male to Female. A young adult human being as a living being desires a partner.
From a Sovereign state point of view. People not born here have a lesser tie emotionally to their adopted country. The more this gets diluted, the more susceptible a country becomes to issues.
In a controlled way, we can still help people who need help. We can embrace other cultures. But there has to be a system in place to control this.
This is not a Left v Right issue or a Racist v Non Racist issue. They are just terms used to divide people while the rich get richer doing their stuff in the background.
There is more to this and you will just have to research that yourself.
I'm afraid there's a head-in-the-sand brigade on here that don't want to see or read anything that goes against their extremist views. Let's face it, this thread was only started so they could stroke each other's egos.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 10:26:15 PMAnything I say will be construed as Racist and exaggerated. Private firms are making Millions from this orchestrated exercise. Large volumes of Males are being brought in to communities. Regular Immigration usually sees people come into a country as a family unit or as an individual - not as large group of people.
22% of our population are now immigrants. This has happened with a mild flow inwards. But we are dealing with a Tsunami now. The large amount of young Adult males in particular will cause a huge demographic imbalance of Male to Female. A young adult human being as a living being desires a partner.
From a Sovereign state point of view. People not born here have a lesser tie emotionally to their adopted country. The more this gets diluted, the more susceptible a country becomes to issues.
In a controlled way, we can still help people who need help. We can embrace other cultures. But there has to be a system in place to control this.
This is not a Left v Right issue or a Racist v Non Racist issue. They are just terms used to divide people while the rich get richer doing their stuff in the background.
There is more to this and you will just have to research that yourself.
Posting the same waffle twice and ignoring the questions you were asked just makes you look foolish.
I'll ask again, can you give me an example of a community that's been destroyed. Start in your own county, I'm very familiar with it so it should be easy to make me understand.
Can you give actual numbers please instead of tsunami numbers..
Really struggling with how you come to that 'figure' ;D
Just take a look at what's happened in Sweeden
https://scnr.com/article/sweden-headed-toward-civil-war-over-migrant-violence-expert-warns_4e29efae178c11ef9c930242ac1c0002
In a 2020 paper, Adamson showed links between surging crime and migration, which is "reshaping [Swedish] society.
I'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.
It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.
I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.
As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 10:45:45 PMCan you give actual numbers please instead of tsunami numbers..
Really struggling with how you come to that 'figure' ;D
I'm pretty sure I supplied you with a link previously.
The recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 10:59:35 PMI'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.
It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.
I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.
As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.
Not entirely comfortable = haven't any evidence or examples and just spouting shite.
Quote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:24:46 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 10:59:35 PMI'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.
It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.
I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.
As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.
Not entirely comfortable = haven't any evidence or examples and just spouting shite.
What do you think of Sweden?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:12:37 PMThe recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?
What do you make of that?
Lets take a look at Germany
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-chancellor-olaf-scholz-migration-policies-deportation-crime-islam-syriia-afghan/
"It was the kind of law-and-order talk that has been swelling far-right rallies from Palermo to Potsdam.
The strange thing was, this cri de cœur emanated not from a beerhall gathering of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), but from the rostrum of Berlin's Reichstag. Even more perplexing: The man who spoke the words has not only spent years defending Germany's open-door migration policies, but was also largely responsible for them. "
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:27:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:24:46 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 10:59:35 PMI'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.
It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.
I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.
As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.
Not entirely comfortable = haven't any evidence or examples and just spouting shite.
What do you think of Sweden?
Don't know anything about Sweden, doubt you do either. Only been there once. Now tell me where do I find the destroyed communities in Ireland.
Quote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:34:51 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:27:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:24:46 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 10:59:35 PMI'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.
It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.
I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.
As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.
Not entirely comfortable = haven't any evidence or examples and just spouting shite.
What do you think of Sweden?
Don't know anything about Sweden, doubt you do either. Only been there once. Now tell me where do I find the destroyed communities in Ireland.
I'm talking in the future tense. A near future.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:39:04 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:34:51 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:27:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:24:46 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 10:59:35 PMI'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.
It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.
I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.
As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.
Not entirely comfortable = haven't any evidence or examples and just spouting shite.
What do you think of Sweden?
Don't know anything about Sweden, doubt you do either. Only been there once. Now tell me where do I find the destroyed communities in Ireland.
I'm talking in the future tense. A near future.
You're talking shite, future or present tense. Utter shite.
I'm going to leave this debate.
It's not going to go anywhere.
And we will all end up more angry.
Quote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:34:51 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:27:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:24:46 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 10:59:35 PMI'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.
It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.
I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.
As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.
Not entirely comfortable = haven't any evidence or examples and just spouting shite.
What do you think of Sweden?
Don't know anything about Sweden, doubt you do either. Only been there once. Now tell me where do I find the destroyed communities in Ireland.
Ill help you out
Directly from the Swedish Government
https://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/
Claim: "The recent rise of violence in Sweden goes unchallenged"
Facts: The situation in Sweden is very serious, with an unprecedented wave of violence.
Claim: "Immigrants are behind the increase in crime"
According to the most recent study, people born abroad are 2.5 times as likely to be registered as a crime suspect as people born in Sweden to two native-born parents.
But as always believe what you want (and ignore hard cold data when it doesnt suit your self congratulatory virtue signalling)
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:28:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:12:37 PMThe recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?
What do you make of that?
I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.
Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.
Live the moment you're in, let the next generation worry about it, you'll stress less.
Quote from: whitey on August 11, 2024, 11:48:28 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:34:51 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:27:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:24:46 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 10:59:35 PMI'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.
It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.
I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.
As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.
Not entirely comfortable = haven't any evidence or examples and just spouting shite.
What do you think of Sweden?
Don't know anything about Sweden, doubt you do either. Only been there once. Now tell me where do I find the destroyed communities in Ireland.
Ill help you out
Directly from the Swedish Government
https://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/
Claim: "The recent rise of violence in Sweden goes unchallenged"
Facts: The situation in Sweden is very serious, with an unprecedented wave of violence.
Claim: "Immigrants are behind the increase in crime"
According to the most recent study, people born abroad are 2.5 times as likely to be registered as a crime suspect as people born in Sweden to two native-born parents.
But as always believe what you want (and ignore hard cold data when it doesnt suit your self congratulatory virtue signalling)
In America, is it mainly immigration that's causing the increase in crime or just Americas?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:53:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 11, 2024, 11:48:28 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:34:51 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:27:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 11, 2024, 11:24:46 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 10:59:35 PMI'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.
It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.
I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.
As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.
Not entirely comfortable = haven't any evidence or examples and just spouting shite.
What do you think of Sweden?
Don't know anything about Sweden, doubt you do either. Only been there once. Now tell me where do I find the destroyed communities in Ireland.
Ill help you out
Directly from the Swedish Government
https://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/
Claim: "The recent rise of violence in Sweden goes unchallenged"
Facts: The situation in Sweden is very serious, with an unprecedented wave of violence.
Claim: "Immigrants are behind the increase in crime"
According to the most recent study, people born abroad are 2.5 times as likely to be registered as a crime suspect as people born in Sweden to two native-born parents.
But as always believe what you want (and ignore hard cold data when it doesnt suit your self congratulatory virtue signalling)
In America, is it mainly immigration that's causing the increase in crime or just Americas?
Probably a combination (but its kinda an apples to bananas comparison given how huge the population is over here. Youd need to see 60,000,000 or more people enter the country in a short period of time, which just wouldn't happen)
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/09/1249626979/migrant-crime-politics-new-york-city
https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-islamization-of-oslo
Some interesting reading from Norway
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 12:37:12 AMhttps://www.city-journal.org/article/the-islamization-of-oslo
Some interesting reading from Norway
" On March 11, 2017, to many viewers' surprise, the nightly news program on government-run NRK television ran an honest segment on the dramatic rise in crime in East Oslo, with a focus principally on Groruddalen—where, as journalist Anders Magnus reported, about 50 percent of the population now had non-Western immigrant backgrounds. Twelve-year-olds were selling drugs; 15-year-olds were carrying guns, knives, and baseball bats; Muslim youth gangs were assaulting adults in the open street; and Muslim parents, with few exceptions, were showing utter indifference to the activities of their criminal sons. "
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 12:37:12 AMhttps://www.city-journal.org/article/the-islamization-of-oslo
Some interesting reading from Norway
Yet it's not from Norway. It's a US publication and the author wouldn't be the most unbiased either.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:52:15 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:28:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:12:37 PMThe recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?
What do you make of that?
I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.
Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.
Live the moment you're in, let the next generation worry about it, you'll stress less.
Community here ok also. I suppose you're right. 25 or so years from now I'll be gone. It's some one else's worry.
Quote from: thebigfella on August 12, 2024, 12:57:56 AMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 12:37:12 AMhttps://www.city-journal.org/article/the-islamization-of-oslo
Some interesting reading from Norway
Yet it's not from Norway. It's a US publication and the author wouldn't be the most unbiased either.
The TV report isnt from Norway?
" On March 11, 2017, to many viewers' surprise, the nightly news program on government-run NRK television ran an honest segment on the dramatic rise in crime in East Oslo, with a focus principally on Groruddalen—where, as journalist Anders Magnus reported, about 50 percent of the population now had non-Western immigrant backgrounds. Twelve-year-olds were selling drugs; 15-year-olds were carrying guns, knives, and baseball bats; Muslim youth gangs were assaulting adults in the open street; and Muslim parents, with few exceptions, were showing utter indifference to the activities of their criminal sons
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 01:07:34 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:52:15 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:28:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:12:37 PMThe recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?
What do you make of that?
I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.
Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.
Live the moment you're in, let the next generation worry about it, you'll stress less.
Community here ok also. I suppose you're right. 25 or so years from now I'll be gone. It's some one else's worry.
Fantastic legacy to leave your children, though.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 12, 2024, 07:59:49 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 01:07:34 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:52:15 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:28:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:12:37 PMThe recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?
What do you make of that?
I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.
Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.
Live the moment you're in, let the next generation worry about it, you'll stress less.
Community here ok also. I suppose you're right. 25 or so years from now I'll be gone. It's some one else's worry.
Fantastic legacy to leave your children, though.
It's a better legacy to the one I grew up in to be fair.
You never had to worry about being kidnapped and shoved into a black taxi
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 08:27:12 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 12, 2024, 07:59:49 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 01:07:34 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:52:15 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:28:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:12:37 PMThe recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?
What do you make of that?
I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.
Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.
Live the moment you're in, let the next generation worry about it, you'll stress less.
Community here ok also. I suppose you're right. 25 or so years from now I'll be gone. It's some one else's worry.
Fantastic legacy to leave your children, though.
It's a better legacy to the one I grew up in to be fair.
You never had to worry about being kidnapped and shoved into a black taxi
On the other hand, the south was blessed, from the inception of the state, with a homogenous population. It's often said, that were it not for partition, the Irish state would not have survived. I accept in the north it's a different situation. However, we should be very careful about importing ethnic strife in the south.
We'll never know if it had have survived, never got that opportunity to see. Dropped like a sack of potatoes
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/irish-patriot-who-marched-with-loyalist-mob-facing-drug-charges-while-shankill-residents-cheer-disorder-arrest/a1925790651.html
so much of an irish patriot that hes profiteering out of destroying irish lives.
he 'Irish patriot' who joined with loyalist paramilitaries in leading a racist mob through Belfast is facing cocaine and ketamine-dealing charges.
Bernard Lavery was pictured at the front of an anti-immigration rally at City Hall last weekend waving an Irish tricolour, and then marching with 40 thugs towards the Islamic Centre in south Belfast.
Among those in his company was convicted sectarian killer Glen Kane, who was jailed for nine years for beating innocent Catholic Kieran Abram to death in 1992.
The Shankill Road thug was arrested at his Riga Street home late yesterday afternoon in connection with last week's disorder.
Glen Kane being arrested
Sunday Life watched as he was escorted from the property to cheers from locals and taken into custody.
Fellow race hate marcher Bernard Lavery, who is from the nationalist Oldpark area of north Belfast but living in the Lower Ormeau district of the city, appeared in court last Monday charged with taking part in an unnotified parade.
The 34-year-old was remanded in custody after a prosecutor revealed he was in breach of Crown Court bail conditions relating to a number of serious drugs offences.
Sunday Life can reveal these are being concerned in the supply of cocaine, being concerned in the supply of ketamine, possessing cocaine and possessing amphetamines.
Court documents show Lavery was arrested in October 2022 during a major PSNI investigation into drug dealing and that the supply charges against him relate to a five-month period stretching back from then until May 2022.
His address was given in court as Farnham Street, off the Ormeau Road, just yards from the Sean Graham's bookmaker' shop where five innocent civilians, the youngest of whom was 15 years old, were murdered by the UDA in 1992.
As Saturday's racist mob marched through south Belfast last weekend, it tried to make its way towards the bookies.
Officers escorting Kane to a PSNI Land Rover
Loyalists were recorded shouting "Fenian b****s" and mocking the Sean Graham's slaughter with chants of "fk your five alive". They were also filmed making gun gestures towards a crowd of 100 locals who pushed them back onto University Street.
By this stage, the tricolour-waving Bernard Lavery had left the racist march. However, his involvement in the disgraceful scenes at City Hall caused fury in the Lower Ormeau community.
A plan by anti-racists and republicans to picket his Farnham Street home at the beginning of last week was called off at the last moment.
Instead word was sent to associates of Lavery that he will not be welcome back to the area on his release from prison or the nationalist Oldpark area, where he is from originally.
One local told us: "Lavery had only been living on Farnham Street for a few months. After he appeared in court last Monday, there was real anger in the community.
"A plan to picket his house was called off after he was remanded in custody. Lavery won't be able to come back here if he is bailed, or to the Oldpark where he is from."
One of the Coolock protesters in a Sandy Row bar
Sunday Life understands Lavery's name is on a list of far right anti-immigration supporters living in nationalist areas of Belfast compiled by republicans in the wake of last weekend's race-hate parade.
A former election candidate from the city is also included.
Republican paramilitaries including the INLA and New IRA are understood to be planning to forcibly remove several of these individuals from their homes.
"There are plenty of these racist and far-right lowlifes living in nationalist areas of north and west Belfast," explained a dissident source.
"They are going to be identified and removed.
"The attack on the Lower Ormeau last weekend crossed a line. It's not only those at that race hate parade who should be worried. The nationalist keyboard warriors who've been spreading lies on social media are going to be confronted."
Northern Ireland's far-right links return to the spotlight... and they go back decades 'No way in world' will anyone get bail if charged over race riots, says judge 'NI is my home too,' says founder of Newtownards mosque previously targeted by 'KKK' as latest attack caught on CCTV
Loyalists making gun signs at Ormeau Road residents close to the scene of the Sean Graham's massacre
In a further insult to the Sean Graham's dead, a group of far-right protesters from Coolock in Dublin went drinking with UDA supporters in the Royal Bar in Sandy Row after the City Hall gathering.
They were given what has been described as a "heroes' welcome" in the pub, which is adorned with emblems supporting the paramilitary gang.
Among those in the Coolock group's company was the UDA gunman who drove the getaway car used in the Sean Graham's attack. He is referred to as 'Suspect 4' in a Police Ombudsman report into the atrocity.
When Bernard Lavery appeared in court, his solicitor argued he had committed the "simple offence" of unwittingly taking part in an unlawful parade.
A loyalist mocks the Sean Graham bookmakers atrocity as he cocks a make-believe gun
The court was told the defendant was "at the very front" of the protest as it left the City Hall and was wearing a baseball cap, dark clothing and a face mask while waving an Irish flag.
Prosecutors said police believe Lavery, who was seen "pointing and gesturing towards hotels", played "a significant" and "pivotal role" in the protest.
They said the accused was in breach of Crown Court bail conditions relating to a number of drugs offences.
However, Lavery's legal representative said his client acted "to try and quell any disorder" and adopted "a pacifying role".
"He was encouraging those engaging in serious disorder to desist... he was holding crowds back," the solicitor added.
"He was the first person to leave when things took a very serious downturn."
The solicitor claimed his client regretted taking part in his first protest and "denies any suggestion he is a leader".
But Judge McStay said those factors "actually show the grave authority" that Lavery had over the demonstration, "which went on to have very serious ramifications".
Hope Burdy, Whitey and Bunker are proud of their fellow travellers.
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 01:47:58 AMQuote from: thebigfella on August 12, 2024, 12:57:56 AMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 12:37:12 AMhttps://www.city-journal.org/article/the-islamization-of-oslo
Some interesting reading from Norway
Yet it's not from Norway. It's a US publication and the author wouldn't be the most unbiased either.
The TV report isnt from Norway?
" On March 11, 2017, to many viewers' surprise, the nightly news program on government-run NRK television ran an honest segment on the dramatic rise in crime in East Oslo, with a focus principally on Groruddalen—where, as journalist Anders Magnus reported, about 50 percent of the population now had non-Western immigrant backgrounds. Twelve-year-olds were selling drugs; 15-year-olds were carrying guns, knives, and baseball bats; Muslim youth gangs were assaulting adults in the open street; and Muslim parents, with few exceptions, were showing utter indifference to the activities of their criminal sons
Where is the reference to the original TV report? We only have the author of the article's "word" for it the segment was run and what the actual content was.
Before you do your usual, I have a mate or I know someone who was talking this people who blah blah........ try doing better. Give us creditable references.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:52:15 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:28:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2024, 11:12:37 PMThe recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?
What do you make of that?
I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.
Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.
Bloody brown skinned people spreading a middle Eastern religion through Europe....
Like something out of Acts of the Apostles or St Paul's letters to the....
Quote from: Rossfan on August 12, 2024, 09:54:54 AMHope Burdy, Whitey and Bunker are proud of their fellow travellers.
I'd have little or no time for Glen Kane or any of these opportunists. They have fallen off of one bandwagon and found this as a new past-time that has similar hatred to what they used to peddle.
They are only interested in using tactics of fear and incitement.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 11, 2024, 11:44:29 PMI'm going to leave this debate.
It's not going to go anywhere.
And we will all end up more angry.
Yeh it easier to do that I suppose than back up any of the nonsense your posting with facts or data.
What is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...
So do people agree or disagree with this move?
https://www.newstalk.com/news/airlines-to-face-increased-fines-for-bringing-people-to-ireland-without-documentation-1753947
Would Helen McEntee be regarded as "far right"?
Interesting that when they decided to enforce existing laws the numbers entering without documentation dropped off a cliff
"She said there has already been a "30% to 40% reduction" in people coming to Irish airports with false documents or destroying their documents on arrival in the past two years due to tighter security."
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...
Maybe Banty (McEnaney) could build a few more Concentration Camps. He been playing a blinder so far.
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...
Is that the only solution?
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:16:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...
Is that the only solution?
Banty (McEnaney) could build a few more Concentration Camps. He been playing a blinder so far. Has got €83 Million from the Government. ;D
It's great to see an good old GAA man care about the welfare of Immigrants.
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:16:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...
Is that the only solution?
we cannot build enough. no one seems to have issues with irish emigration.. no protests at dublin airport trying to stop irish emigarton it could work
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:27:48 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:16:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...
Is that the only solution?
we cannot build enough. no one seems to have issues with irish emigration.. no protests at dublin airport trying to stop irish emigarton it could work
Irish emigration? Love to see some figures on it. Last person that I know that emigrated for financial reasons left more than 10 years ago. Know plenty who left going on an adventure/travelling etc. I didn't realise it was widespread and people were selling up their houses. Have you details?
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:31:50 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:27:48 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:16:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...
Is that the only solution?
we cannot build enough. no one seems to have issues with irish emigration.. no protests at dublin airport trying to stop irish emigarton it could work
Irish emigration? Love to see some figures on it. Last person that I know that emigrated for financial reasons left more than 10 years ago. Know plenty who left going on an adventure/travelling etc. I didn't realise it was widespread and people were selling up their houses. Have you details?
i was just suggesting it as a solution. But between April 2022 and April 2023, 64,000 emigrated but not sure how many were homes owners and were Irish.
also, 30,000 that immigrated to ireland were returning so we could stop them coming back.
We could encourage more of our students to study abroad. This would free up more accommodation and they would be more likely to stay abroad when they qualify.
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:31:50 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:27:48 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:16:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...
Is that the only solution?
we cannot build enough. no one seems to have issues with irish emigration.. no protests at dublin airport trying to stop irish emigarton it could work
Irish emigration? Love to see some figures on it. Last person that I know that emigrated for financial reasons left more than 10 years ago. Know plenty who left going on an adventure/travelling etc. I didn't realise it was widespread and people were selling up their houses. Have you details?
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:27:48 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:16:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...
Is that the only solution?
we cannot build enough. no one seems to have issues with irish emigration.. no protests at dublin airport trying to stop irish emigarton it could work
Plenty have issue with it people are emigrating to get out of the family home and get some freedom as there is no rental market and they are priced out of houses to buy.
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 01:03:00 PMSo do people agree or disagree with this move?
https://www.newstalk.com/news/airlines-to-face-increased-fines-for-bringing-people-to-ireland-without-documentation-1753947
Would Helen McEntee be regarded as "far right"?
Interesting that when they decided to enforce existing laws the numbers entering without documentation dropped off a cliff
"She said there has already been a "30% to 40% reduction" in people coming to Irish airports with false documents or destroying their documents on arrival in the past two years due to tighter security."
its called Carriers Liability Action. They have had it for years
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 02:32:57 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 01:03:00 PMSo do people agree or disagree with this move?
https://www.newstalk.com/news/airlines-to-face-increased-fines-for-bringing-people-to-ireland-without-documentation-1753947
Would Helen McEntee be regarded as "far right"?
Interesting that when they decided to enforce existing laws the numbers entering without documentation dropped off a cliff
"She said there has already been a "30% to 40% reduction" in people coming to Irish airports with false documents or destroying their documents on arrival in the past two years due to tighter security."
its called Carriers Liability Action. They have had it for years
So do you agree or disagree with them increasing the fines?
Do you agree or disagree with them enforcing the law?
Don't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
About building more houses....whatever happened to the laws of supply and demand and the private sector pouncing to fill the demand?.
We were building around 70,000 "units" per annum 20 years ago when half of them weren't needed!!
Now we have Ministers boasting and patting themselves on the back about providing 30,000 when double that IS needed.
Should have been a Housing Energency provisions Act brought in about 2017. The 2nd best time to bring it in is next week.
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok
Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:56:27 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok
Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.
Just enforce the existing laws is all anyone could ask for.
Am I right wing now?
Quote from: johnnycool on August 12, 2024, 05:05:52 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:56:27 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok
Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.
Just enforce the existing laws is all anyone could ask for.
Am I right wing now?
According to some posters on here, yes you are
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:56:27 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok
Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.
I'm in favour of government following the procedures in place?
Not sure there are any posters on here not looking that.
Here's what I'm not in favour of though,
thugs terrorising people that are being processed
Burning buildings
Misinformation
Illegal gatherings
Towns business losing incomes
Far right
People talking about integration and certain groups staying to themselves. I'm not surprised they are, considering the current events, that'll take years to regain confidence.
I think people need to understand Muslims better, I've very limited knowledge to be fair and I'm a next door neighbour of 20 years to a Muslim family. But they don't bite, they are very family oriented and they work hard, the kids all did well exceptionally well at school, and when one was probably getting 'preached' in a London college the father went over to live and work there to prevent or deter anything. Commendable.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 05:18:14 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:56:27 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok
Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.
I'm in favour of government following the procedures in place?
Not sure there are any posters on here not looking that.
Here's what I'm not in favour of though,
thugs terrorising people that are being processed
Burning buildings
Misinformation
Illegal gatherings
Towns business losing incomes
Far right
People talking about integration and certain groups staying to themselves. I'm not surprised they are, considering the current events, that'll take years to regain confidence.
I think people need to understand Muslims better, I've very limited knowledge to be fair and I'm a next door neighbour of 20 years to a Muslim family. But they don't bite, they are very family oriented and they work hard, the kids all did well exceptionally well at school, and when one was probably getting 'preached' in a London college the father went over to live and work there to prevent or deter anything. Commendable.
Fair enough
You won't answer the question
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:37:31 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:31:50 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:27:48 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:16:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.
I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.
I agree, I'd like to know that too.
More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...
Is that the only solution?
we cannot build enough. no one seems to have issues with irish emigration.. no protests at dublin airport trying to stop irish emigarton it could work
Irish emigration? Love to see some figures on it. Last person that I know that emigrated for financial reasons left more than 10 years ago. Know plenty who left going on an adventure/travelling etc. I didn't realise it was widespread and people were selling up their houses. Have you details?
i was just suggesting it as a solution. But between April 2022 and April 2023, 64,000 emigrated but not sure how many were homes owners and were Irish.
also, 30,000 that immigrated to ireland were returning so we could stop them coming back.
I'll tell Tommy Tiernan youre looking for work.
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 05:21:07 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 05:18:14 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:56:27 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok
Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.
I'm in favour of government following the procedures in place?
Not sure there are any posters on here not looking that.
Here's what I'm not in favour of though,
thugs terrorising people that are being processed
Burning buildings
Misinformation
Illegal gatherings
Towns business losing incomes
Far right
People talking about integration and certain groups staying to themselves. I'm not surprised they are, considering the current events, that'll take years to regain confidence.
I think people need to understand Muslims better, I've very limited knowledge to be fair and I'm a next door neighbour of 20 years to a Muslim family. But they don't bite, they are very family oriented and they work hard, the kids all did well exceptionally well at school, and when one was probably getting 'preached' in a London college the father went over to live and work there to prevent or deter anything. Commendable.
Fair enough
You won't answer the question
I did.. you're heads lit lad.. too much processed food I'd say
Living among Yanks would make anyone stupid.
It does come easier for Rhubarbs though.
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
This is not the win you think it is mate. That number would include people coming in without visas. That's proper documentation. Or coming in to work without the right permission. Again, not coming with proper documentation. It's not strictly for asylum seekers.
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 08:38:50 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
This is not the win you think it is mate. That number would include people coming in without visas. That's proper documentation. Or coming in to work without the right permission. Again, not coming with proper documentation. It's not strictly for asylum seekers.
So if 85% of asylum applicants arriving into Dublin Airport have no documentation, and the number of people arriving without documentation decreases by 30-40 % would that not imply that a significant decrease in asylum applicants using that ploy has followed
Lads what do ya think of Banty? He's some man housing all those Immigrants. ;D
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 09:42:47 PMLads what do ya think of Banty? He's some man housing all those Immigrants. ;D
He's not abit slow thats for sure lol
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 09:02:25 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 08:38:50 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
This is not the win you think it is mate. That number would include people coming in without visas. That's proper documentation. Or coming in to work without the right permission. Again, not coming with proper documentation. It's not strictly for asylum seekers.
So if 85% of asylum applicants arriving into Dublin Airport have no documentation, and the number of people arriving without documentation decreases by 30-40 % would that not imply that a significant decrease in asylum applicants using that ploy has followed
Where are you getting the 85% figure? Out of thin air?
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 09:58:04 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 09:02:25 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 08:38:50 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
This is not the win you think it is mate. That number would include people coming in without visas. That's proper documentation. Or coming in to work without the right permission. Again, not coming with proper documentation. It's not strictly for asylum seekers.
So if 85% of asylum applicants arriving into Dublin Airport have no documentation, and the number of people arriving without documentation decreases by 30-40 % would that not imply that a significant decrease in asylum applicants using that ploy has followed
Where are you getting the 85% figure? Out of thin air?
https://www.newstalk.com/news/85-of-asylum-seekers-arrive-at-dublin-airport-without-identity-documents-1646914#:~:text=Eighty%2Dfive%20percent%20of%20people,no%20or%20false%20identity%20documents.
Are you sure NewsTalk is a reputable source?
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 12, 2024, 09:55:11 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 09:42:47 PMLads what do ya think of Banty? He's some man housing all those Immigrants. ;D
He's not abit slow thats for sure lol
He's one of many who are on the Immigrant gravy train that's for sure. You won't see him near the County Manager merry go round again.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 10:05:35 PMAre you sure NewsTalk is a reputable source?
From the article
" The figures were supplied to Newstalk by the Department of Justice via a freedom of information request."
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4eumVvXIAARQCk?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 10:11:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 10:05:35 PMAre you sure NewsTalk is a reputable source?
From the article
" The figures were supplied to Newstalk by the Department of Justice via a freedom of information request."
But where did they get their figures from?
Banty has more concentration camps ........ i mean Hotels to build.
Is there any way of getting more in. More flights?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 10:16:12 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4eumVvXIAARQCk?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
He should be in line for a humanitarian award.
Newstalk? Sure, wasn't one of their journalists caught protesting with the unwashed antifa?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 10:17:07 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 10:11:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 10:05:35 PMAre you sure NewsTalk is a reputable source?
From the article
" The figures were supplied to Newstalk by the Department of Justice via a freedom of information request."
But where did they get their figures from?
Banty has more concentration camps ........ i mean Hotels to build.
Is there any way of getting more in. More flights?
Where did the Department of Justice get their figures from?
I assume there's some tracking mechanism at the airport involving the Guards and Immigration officials
Follow the Money..........
'Banty' McEnaney and 14 family members paid over €130m to house refugees (https://businessplus.ie/news/banty-mcenaney-refugees/)
''Companies owned by GAA manager and businessman Séamus 'Banty' McEnaney and 14 other members of his family have been paid more than €130m by the State to house asylum seekers and refugees since 2020, writes Valerie Hanley.
Firms controlled by Mr McEnaney's family received more than €50m in payments between April 2022 and September 2023.
This is on top of over €83m paid to a company belonging to Mr McEnaney himself since 2020, when the procurement of asylum accommodation was taken over by the Department of Integration.''
Follow the Money......
International Protection accommodation bill jumps 54% to €215m in first quarter (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/international-protection-accommodation-bill-jumps-54-to-e215m-in-first-quarter-1635022.html)
''A Co Kerry guesthouse operated by a firm owned by independent Kerry TD, Michael Healy-Rae has received €917,970 (all figures incl VAT) for accommodating Ukrainians to date, new figures show.
New quarterly figures published by the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth show that Deputy Healy Rae's Rosemount Guest House received €151,320 for the first quarter of this year and this is in addition to the €766,650 the guest house has received in the prior five quarters for accommodating Ukrainians.
In 2022, Kerry Co Council refused planning permission to Deputy Healy Rae's Roughty Properties Ltd's application for a three-storey extension to expand guest capacity at Rosemount Guest House.''
International Protection racket, eh?
Follow the Money.........
More than €2 billion was paid by the Government on the sector last year. (https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-refugee-accommodation-costs-2023-hotels-direct-provision-6352078-Apr2024/)
''MORE THAN 30 private companies were paid over €10 million by the Government for accommodating Ukrainians and asylum seekers last year, a significant increase on 2022.
Figures published by the Department of Integration for 2023 show that almost €1.8 billion was paid to more than 850 companies, charities and state bodies for accommodating refugees and International Protection (IP) applicants last year.
The list of those who received payments includes international hotel operators, small B&Bs, homeless charities, private developers, real estate companies, catering businesses, security providers and companies involved in running Direct Provision centres.
Despite a pledge by the Government to end Direct Provision within its lifetime, last year saw companies which run DP centres collectively paid more than €130 million.
The figures reflect the Government's struggle to find accommodation for tens of thousands of people who have sought refuge in Ireland over the past two years.
The Journal recently reported how the spend on housing new arrivals has doubled compared to pre-pandemic levels, amid a record number of IP applicants and more than 100,000 people fleeing the war in Ukraine coming to Ireland since the start of 2022.''
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 12, 2024, 10:21:00 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 10:16:12 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4eumVvXIAARQCk?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
He should be in line for a humanitarian award.
Good for him
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 12, 2024, 10:21:00 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 10:16:12 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4eumVvXIAARQCk?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
He should be in line for a humanitarian award.
Good for him.
No doubt he had plenty of expense, loan repayments etc.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 12, 2024, 11:20:16 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on August 12, 2024, 10:21:00 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 10:16:12 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4eumVvXIAARQCk?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
He should be in line for a humanitarian award.
Good for him.
No doubt he had plenty of expense, loan repayments etc.
It's great to see Governments get involved in local concentration camp initiatives. And help well to do investors with their expenses and loan repayments.
I think Rossfan is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. ;D
If it wasn't Banty who else would it be? Someone or lots are making big money of the back of refugees coming to Ireland.
Am I missing something here? Is Banty stationed at Calais?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2024, 12:09:13 AMIf it wasn't Banty who else would it be? Someone or lots are making big money of the back of refugees coming to Ireland.
Am I missing something here? Is Banty stationed at Calais?
I'm using Banty as an example as he is Household GAA personality. He offers a more tangible example, rather than picking a lesser known personality. Plus he is making sh*t loads of money from this fiasco.
I do find the conditioned blindness to the way Immigrants are used in making money interesting.
The French Government (as far as I know) deal with direct provision housing themselves. They do not involve the Private sector.
On a side note. Immigrants are being used as an excuse for our housing crisis. They have little or noting to do with it.
But they will still be blamed. And higher interests are happy with this incorrect narrative. It keeps the layman looking the wrong way.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2024, 12:21:56 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2024, 12:09:13 AMIf it wasn't Banty who else would it be? Someone or lots are making big money of the back of refugees coming to Ireland.
Am I missing something here? Is Banty stationed at Calais?
I'm using Banty as an example as he is Household GAA personality. He offers a more tangible example, rather than picking a lesser known personality. Plus he is making sh*t loads of money from this fiasco.
I do find the conditioned blindness to the way Immigrants are used in making money interesting.
The French Government (as far as I know) deal with direct provision housing themselves. They do not involve the Private sector.
On a side note. Immigrants are being used as an excuse for our housing crisis. They have little or noting to do with it.
But they will still be blamed. And higher interests are happy with this incorrect narrative. It keeps the layman looking the wrong way.
I don't know about the Banty GAA personality thing but for sure the urgent housing crisis is a million miles away from being influenced by any rise in immigrant applications. It's the government, stupid!! --- not that political opposition Sinn Fein have answers either.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 12, 2024, 09:42:47 PMLads what do ya think of Banty? He's some man housing all those Immigrants. ;D
Immigrants or refugees? Has he destroyed a community yet?
All the Parties are great at producing glossy plans and strategies though.
Unlike them Banty and others are meeting one particular need.
Private sector is partly meeting another need.
But much easier to blame and denigrate black people and Muslims.
That also gives the nazifascists their classic Minority group to hate.
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 09:58:57 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 09:58:04 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 09:02:25 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 08:38:50 PMQuote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them
Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?
(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)
This is not the win you think it is mate. That number would include people coming in without visas. That's proper documentation. Or coming in to work without the right permission. Again, not coming with proper documentation. It's not strictly for asylum seekers.
So if 85% of asylum applicants arriving into Dublin Airport have no documentation, and the number of people arriving without documentation decreases by 30-40 % would that not imply that a significant decrease in asylum applicants using that ploy has followed
Where are you getting the 85% figure? Out of thin air?
https://www.newstalk.com/news/85-of-asylum-seekers-arrive-at-dublin-airport-without-identity-documents-1646914#:~:text=Eighty%2Dfive%20percent%20of%20people,no%20or%20false%20identity%20documents.
Cheers. Maybe they should lock more up eh? Woukd put less pressure on housing. Thing is, even if they do lock them up the asylum claim still has to be processed
13,000 applicants, 4,000 no or false documents = c30%.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2024, 11:56:08 AM13,000 applicants, 4,000 no or false documents = c30%.
That's 4k at Dublin Airport? There are other points of entry?
Brolly's podcast referenced some staggering figures today from the census.
The % of the the 26 county popuation from the Muslim commuinity is a whopping 1.6%. If that isn't terrifying enough, that is an increase of an eye-watering 0.4% in the last decade!!! However wil we slow down this invasion/great replacement? ::)
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2024, 12:08:59 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2024, 11:56:08 AM13,000 applicants, 4,000 no or false documents = c30%.
That's 4k at Dublin Airport? There are other points of entry?
A lot use the CTA. Where else would they come in from?
Quote from: Snapchap on August 13, 2024, 12:35:15 PMBrolly's podcast referenced some staggering figures today from the census.
The % of the the 26 county popuation from the Muslim commuinity is a whopping 1.6%. If that isn't terrifying enough, that is an increase of an eye-watering 0.4% in the last decade!!! However wil we slow down this invasion/great replacement? ::)
If they get over 2% they'll bring in their Sharirairaira laws and make everyone wear burkes......
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2024, 01:16:14 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 13, 2024, 12:35:15 PMBrolly's podcast referenced some staggering figures today from the census.
The % of the the 26 county popuation from the Muslim commuinity is a whopping 1.6%. If that isn't terrifying enough, that is an increase of an eye-watering 0.4% in the last decade!!! However wil we slow down this invasion/great replacement? ::)
If they get over 2% they'll bring in their Sharirairaira laws and make everyone wear burkes......
Enoch or Ammi would love the attention.
Quote from: seafoid on August 13, 2024, 01:19:58 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2024, 01:16:14 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 13, 2024, 12:35:15 PMBrolly's podcast referenced some staggering figures today from the census.
The % of the the 26 county popuation from the Muslim commuinity is a whopping 1.6%. If that isn't terrifying enough, that is an increase of an eye-watering 0.4% in the last decade!!! However wil we slow down this invasion/great replacement? ::)
If they get over 2% they'll bring in their Sharirairaira laws and make everyone wear burkes......
Enoch or Ammi would love the attention.
Would that not mean a 33% increase in the Muslim population?
Granted, statistics are designed to be butchered to whatever suits our needs best. But 33% confirms a sharp demographical change. 0.4% would suggest not.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 13, 2024, 03:06:00 PMWould that not mean a 33% increase in the Muslim population?
Granted, statistics are designed to be butchered to whatever suits our needs best. But 33% confirms a sharp demographical change. 0.4% would suggest not.
Precisely. I think the exact figure is 29.1%.
"... in the beginning of the malady it is easy to cure but difficult to detect, but in the course of time, not having been either detected or treated in the beginning, it becomes easy to detect but difficult to cure."
Quote from: burdizzo on August 13, 2024, 03:20:08 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 13, 2024, 03:06:00 PMWould that not mean a 33% increase in the Muslim population?
Granted, statistics are designed to be butchered to whatever suits our needs best. But 33% confirms a sharp demographical change. 0.4% would suggest not.
Precisely. I think the exact figure is 29.1%.
"... in the beginning of the malady it is easy to cure but difficult to detect, but in the course of time, not having been either detected or treated in the beginning, it becomes easy to detect but difficult to cure."
Are we talking about cancer or being a redneck?
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2024, 01:16:14 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 13, 2024, 12:35:15 PMBrolly's podcast referenced some staggering figures today from the census.
The % of the the 26 county popuation from the Muslim commuinity is a whopping 1.6%. If that isn't terrifying enough, that is an increase of an eye-watering 0.4% in the last decade!!! However wil we slow down this invasion/great replacement? ::)
If they get over 2% they'll bring in their Sharirairaira laws and make everyone wear burkes......
I'm going digging me a bunkerand stocking up on tinned food and weapons. Yee haw. Anything comes into my compound I'm gonna light it up. Yeeooohh.
https://m.independent.ie/regionals/tipperary/news/tense-scenes-in-tipperary-as-first-group-of-international-protection-applicants-arrive-at-dundrum-house-hotel/a1733562700.html
Thought women and children were OK?
Maybe the locals have legit worries but isn't it interesting that even they cannot keep the far right out of their protest who are intent on causing trouble.
Mattie McGrath could tell the residents to act like decent hunan beings.
If they were so fond of the Hotel they'd have been using it and leaving no need for the owners to seek alternate income.
I wonder why they weren't opposed to Ukranians....🙄
Muslim population in Ireland (Census)
1991 - 3,873
2002 - 19,147
2006 - 32,539
2011 - 48,130
2016 - 63,443
2022 - 81,930
Naturally not all of these are Immigrants, refugee, foreigners. Many former Christians born here have converted.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2024, 08:28:30 PMMuslim population in Ireland (Census)
1991 - 3,873
2002 - 19,147
2006 - 32,539
2011 - 48,130
2016 - 63,443
2022 - 81,930
Naturally not all of these are Immigrants, refugee, foreigners. Many former Christians born here have converted.
So in 6 years time you'll have over 5 million 'Christian's' and 100,000 Muslims?
Thoughts with all the Irish Pubs in Malta at the minute
Bound to be attacked by the Maltese far right
As a fighting age unvetted male with an existing criminal record murders a woman in their country
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0812/1464574-malta-irish-man/
Quote from: clonadmad on August 13, 2024, 09:48:54 PMThoughts with all the Irish Pubs in Malta at the minute
Bound to be attacked by the Maltese far right
As a fighting age unvetted male with an existing criminal record murders a woman in their country
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0812/1464574-malta-irish-man/
Only right, get the Irish out
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2024, 08:40:26 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2024, 08:28:30 PMMuslim population in Ireland (Census)
1991 - 3,873
2002 - 19,147
2006 - 32,539
2011 - 48,130
2016 - 63,443
2022 - 81,930
Naturally not all of these are Immigrants, refugee, foreigners. Many former Christians born here have converted.
So in 6 years time you'll have over 5 million 'Christian's' and 100,000 Muslims?
I don't know, my buddy johno56432177 on twitter said these facts appeared the great replacement is in full flow and in 10 years time there will be only 5 Christians and 5 trillion black Muslim paedos. johno56432177 knows the story
Show on the far right on channel 4 now if anyone interested.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2024, 08:40:26 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2024, 08:28:30 PMMuslim population in Ireland (Census)
1991 - 3,873
2002 - 19,147
2006 - 32,539
2011 - 48,130
2016 - 63,443
2022 - 81,930
Naturally not all of these are Immigrants, refugee, foreigners. Many former Christians born here have converted.
So in 6 years time you'll have over 5 million 'Christian's' and 100,000 Muslims?
Ah, there will be more than 100,000 Muslims in 6 years time. Covid would have greatly affected the 82k 2022 census figure - in 2020, 2021 and the early part of 2022.
There will be 5 million plus of Christian heritage.
If only we could find a few Christians.....especially in Dundrum or Coolock....
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2024, 10:57:52 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2024, 08:40:26 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2024, 08:28:30 PMMuslim population in Ireland (Census)
1991 - 3,873
2002 - 19,147
2006 - 32,539
2011 - 48,130
2016 - 63,443
2022 - 81,930
Naturally not all of these are Immigrants, refugee, foreigners. Many former Christians born here have converted.
So in 6 years time you'll have over 5 million 'Christian's' and 100,000 Muslims?
Ah, there will be more than 100,000 Muslims in 6 years time. Covid would have greatly affected the 82k 2022 census figure - in 2020, 2021 and the early part of 2022.
There will be 5 million plus of Christian heritage.
Those figures look consistent from 91, not sure covid was about then, and the south didn't have the troubles, plus the Celtic tiger was in full force.
Again, stop worrying, as the years go by religions tend to become less and less important, Muslim is a few hundred years younger than Christianity, 800 years ago Christians were burning witches.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 07:34:56 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2024, 10:57:52 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2024, 08:40:26 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2024, 08:28:30 PMMuslim population in Ireland (Census)
1991 - 3,873
2002 - 19,147
2006 - 32,539
2011 - 48,130
2016 - 63,443
2022 - 81,930
Naturally not all of these are Immigrants, refugee, foreigners. Many former Christians born here have converted.
So in 6 years time you'll have over 5 million 'Christian's' and 100,000 Muslims?
Ah, there will be more than 100,000 Muslims in 6 years time. Covid would have greatly affected the 82k 2022 census figure - in 2020, 2021 and the early part of 2022.
There will be 5 million plus of Christian heritage.
Those figures look consistent from 91, not sure covid was about then, and the south didn't have the troubles, plus the Celtic tiger was in full force.
Again, stop worrying, as the years go by religions tend to become less and less important, Muslim is a few hundred years younger than Christianity, 800 years ago Christians were burning witches.
20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Quote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
This unvetted fighting age economic migrant needs to be deported back to his own country
https://www.irishnews.com/news/uk/irish-man-sentenced-to-10-months-imprisonment-after-racially-abusing-london-bus-driver-clone-5ECP3NINW5BAXBBBTTRZLSUOZM/
Quote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
Quote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
Doesn't fit the narrative though ;)
Yep, only black people and Muslims commit crimes.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 12:11:01 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
Doesn't fit the narrative though ;)
No, of course not. Just happens, however, that most people convicted of rape and attempted rape in Sweden in the last few years are foreign born. Staggering, really, when you consider that 'foreign born' is still a minority in Sweden.
The Scandinavian nation of 10.6 million people is facing a national crisis because of its failure to successfully integrate record numbers of immigrants. (https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/sweden-immigrants-crisis/)
''Having been long in denial, even the Social Democrats have now released a report of their own, recognizing that two decades of excessive immigration and failed integration have produced a national crisis.''
''The number of immigrants to Sweden reached an all-time high in 2016, but it remains at historically high levels. Immigration is expected to stay above 100,000 arrivals each year for the long term. The Scandinavian nation has a population of 10.6 million people.''
Englsih right wingers still see enoch as a hero and when you mention what he may have done they go quiet and ignore it.
Long term any country taking in thousands of A/S's year on year is going to lead to likely major problems down the line. There will be issues with Housing, Healthcare, Education, Crime etc.
Anyone who doesnt see the above has their head in the sand which our Goverment seems to certaintly have. This issue is not going to go away and it's going to likely increase year on year while more and more A/S's arrive.
I don't know what the solution is but economic migrants need to be identified early and deported back to where they came from instead of been giving a roof over there head and feed at the cost of the taxpayer which would free up space for all the genuine ones. The NGO's funding needs to be stripped where they are enabling these guys aswell they are playing a big part in it.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 01:02:11 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 12:11:01 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
Doesn't fit the narrative though ;)
No, of course not. Just happens, however, that most people convicted of rape and attempted rape in Sweden in the last few years are foreign born. Staggering, really, when you consider that 'foreign born' is still a minority in Sweden.
I'd say this would also have an impact
In 2018, Sweden passed a new law that criminalizes sex without consent as rape, even when there are no threats, coercion, or violence involved. Sweden no longer requires prosecutors to prove the use or threat of violence or coercion. This led to a rise in convictions of 75% to 333.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 02:16:23 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 01:02:11 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 12:11:01 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
Doesn't fit the narrative though ;)
No, of course not. Just happens, however, that most people convicted of rape and attempted rape in Sweden in the last few years are foreign born. Staggering, really, when you consider that 'foreign born' is still a minority in Sweden.
I'd say this would also have an impact
In 2018, Sweden passed a new law that criminalizes sex without consent as rape, even when there are no threats, coercion, or violence involved. Sweden no longer requires prosecutors to prove the use or threat of violence or coercion. This led to a rise in convictions of 75% to 333.
Ah here. So no means yes then. FFS
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 14, 2024, 02:06:59 PMLong term any country taking in thousands of A/S's year on year is going to lead to likely major problems down the line. There will be issues with Housing, Healthcare, Education, Crime etc.
Anyone who doesnt see the above has their head in the sand which our Goverment seems to certaintly have. This issue is not going to go away and it's going to likely increase year on year while more and more A/S's arrive.
I don't know what the solution is but economic migrants need to be identified early and deported back to where they came from instead of been giving a roof over there head and feed at the cost of the taxpayer which would free up space for all the genuine ones. The NGO's funding needs to be stripped where they are enabling these guys aswell they are playing a big part in it.
Germany. Read a book on it
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 02:16:23 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 01:02:11 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 12:11:01 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
Doesn't fit the narrative though ;)
No, of course not. Just happens, however, that most people convicted of rape and attempted rape in Sweden in the last few years are foreign born. Staggering, really, when you consider that 'foreign born' is still a minority in Sweden.
I'd say this would also have an impact
In 2018, Sweden passed a new law that criminalizes sex without consent as rape, even when there are no threats, coercion, or violence involved. Sweden no longer requires prosecutors to prove the use or threat of violence or coercion. This led to a rise in convictions of 75% to 333.
That probably accounts for a lot of the rise in Convictions. That is a real can of worms.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 02:16:23 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 01:02:11 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 12:11:01 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
Doesn't fit the narrative though ;)
No, of course not. Just happens, however, that most people convicted of rape and attempted rape in Sweden in the last few years are foreign born. Staggering, really, when you consider that 'foreign born' is still a minority in Sweden.
I'd say this would also have an impact
In 2018, Sweden passed a new law that criminalizes sex without consent as rape, even when there are no threats, coercion, or violence involved. Sweden no longer requires prosecutors to prove the use or threat of violence or coercion. This led to a rise in convictions of 75% to 333.
Sorry, pal - also applies to the 5 years before 2018. The number for that period is 58% foreign-born.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 02:38:54 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 02:16:23 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 01:02:11 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 12:11:01 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
Doesn't fit the narrative though ;)
No, of course not. Just happens, however, that most people convicted of rape and attempted rape in Sweden in the last few years are foreign born. Staggering, really, when you consider that 'foreign born' is still a minority in Sweden.
I'd say this would also have an impact
In 2018, Sweden passed a new law that criminalizes sex without consent as rape, even when there are no threats, coercion, or violence involved. Sweden no longer requires prosecutors to prove the use or threat of violence or coercion. This led to a rise in convictions of 75% to 333.
Sorry, pal - also applies to the 5 years before 2018. The number for that period is 58% foreign-born.
Again, whatever floats your boat, homegrown good, foreigner bad
Its mad that you actually think you are on a crusade (no pun intended) for finding reasons that suit your thought process or justify it.
We could find stats to suit any argument, and it was actually 2015 which is 3 years, but sounds better when you make it sound worse
Another hero and heroine of Burdy etc as they try to stop the "foreigner crimewave"
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/courts/boy-15-accused-of-petrol-bombing-police-during-belfast-rioting-was-encouraged-by-mum-court-told/a832621389.html
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 02:45:12 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 02:38:54 PMSorry, pal - also applies to the 5 years before 2018. The number for that period is 58% foreign-born.
Again, whatever floats your boat, homegrown good, foreigner bad
Its mad that you actually think you are on a crusade (no pun intended) for finding reasons that suit your thought process or justify it.
We could find stats to suit any argument, and it was actually 2015 which is 3 years, but sounds better when you make it sound worse
Nope, the article I read was dated August 2018, and stated "over the last five years".
Of course, you're right, we can all quote stats. However, that one is pretty stark and hard to excuse - which you attempted to do.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 04:50:23 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 02:45:12 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 02:38:54 PMSorry, pal - also applies to the 5 years before 2018. The number for that period is 58% foreign-born.
Again, whatever floats your boat, homegrown good, foreigner bad
Its mad that you actually think you are on a crusade (no pun intended) for finding reasons that suit your thought process or justify it.
We could find stats to suit any argument, and it was actually 2015 which is 3 years, but sounds better when you make it sound worse
Nope, the article I read was dated August 2018, and stated "over the last five years".
Of course, you're right, we can all quote stats. However, that one is pretty stark and hard to excuse - which you attempted to do.
Stick your article up, as I'd one stating different dates.
If you show me were I'm excusing rape or attempted rape I'll be very surprised
Dundrum
Known for its white picket fences
Gotta rattle the tin hard for those American dollars
https://x.com/theliberal_ie/status/1823683149622034762?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
#irelandbelongstotheirish
They were happy for the 270 Ukrainians but now?
Quote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
So seeing as there are Irish born child abusers (which there has been) since the foundation of the state, we now need to let foreign born child abusers in to even things up
Makes perfect sense
Quote from: clonadmad on August 14, 2024, 09:31:42 PMDundrum
Known for its white picket fences
Gotta rattle the tin hard for those American dollars
https://x.com/theliberal_ie/status/1823683149622034762?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
The dumb dollar
Quote from: whitey on August 14, 2024, 09:51:52 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
So seeing as there are Irish born child abusers (which there has been) since the foundation of the state, we now need to let foreign born child abusers in to even things up
Makes perfect sense
Who's letting in child abusers?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 05:40:54 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 04:50:23 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 02:45:12 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 02:38:54 PMSorry, pal - also applies to the 5 years before 2018. The number for that period is 58% foreign-born.
Again, whatever floats your boat, homegrown good, foreigner bad
Its mad that you actually think you are on a crusade (no pun intended) for finding reasons that suit your thought process or justify it.
We could find stats to suit any argument, and it was actually 2015 which is 3 years, but sounds better when you make it sound worse
Nope, the article I read was dated August 2018, and stated "over the last five years".
Of course, you're right, we can all quote stats. However, that one is pretty stark and hard to excuse - which you attempted to do.
Stick your article up, as I'd one stating different dates.
If you show me were I'm excusing rape or attempted rape I'll be very surprised
OK, you weren't excusing it, but you did seem to be trying to ameliorate it.
Anyway, here's the article I was banging on about.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45269764
Totally different cultures in Africa and Middle East towards women, that's obvious to anyone.
Wasn't there a Somalian asylum seeker (here on fake documents) who raped a woman in the toilets of a bar in Dublin a few months ago, while the woman was screaming he said "I am saying please"
That's probably enough, regardless of consent, in some of these countries
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 09:58:03 PMQuote from: whitey on August 14, 2024, 09:51:52 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
So seeing as there are Irish born child abusers (which there has been) since the foundation of the state, we now need to let foreign born child abusers in to even things up
Makes perfect sense
Who's letting in child abusers?
We don't know who we're letting in-that's the problem
Some are convicted sex offenders
Hence the term unvetted
https://extra.ie/2024/05/09/news/irish-news/review-migrant-sex-offence
But while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.
So who is the beef with?
If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.
I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.
So who is the beef with?
If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.
I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria
No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 09:58:03 PMQuote from: whitey on August 14, 2024, 09:51:52 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.
Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?
Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??
I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.
So seeing as there are Irish born child abusers (which there has been) since the foundation of the state, we now need to let foreign born child abusers in to even things up
Makes perfect sense
Who's letting in child abusers?
It's just the racist Yank and his "all asylum seekers are criminals" mantra.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.
So who is the beef with?
If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.
I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria
Apologies in advance for scattered nature of response. Need to meet someone for dinner at 6:30
(1) The governments enforcement of existing laws is lax to non existent as is its vetting
(2) The majority of applications for asylum are denied yet applicants seem to be able stay for years (at the expense of the taxpayer) and file nimerous appeals (also at the taxpayers expense)
(3) A tiny percentage of People ordered deported are actually deported (after exhausting all these frivolous legal appeals)
This is why (among other reasons) people are angry...but the open borders apologists start shouting racism in an effort to shut down dissent....and it seems to be working on here anyways
So what if the 12 million Sudanese decide to move to Ireland-how many should we accept?
Should we have a limit on the number of asylum seekers refugees we accept?
The fraudsters are making things very difficult for the genuine asylum seekers, yet in an effort to appear woke/liberal/progressive any and all criticism by many on the left is deemed racist - which is a bunch of baloney
One final note-a homeless Irish man in Tipperary who built a chalet in land he owns is being threatened with jail because he has no planning permission for the structure
Yet in the same county, a hotel can be converted into a migrant center without any planning permission, and 250 migrants can be landed into a village of 200 people without consultation or provision of additional resources.
Do you think people have a right to be angry about that
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.
So who is the beef with?
If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.
I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria
No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.
I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive
Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!
Or even worse...they might be Muslims and they're shocking awful horrible bad altogether.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:31:52 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.
So who is the beef with?
If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.
I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria
No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.
I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive
Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!
The fools who are involved in Hounding out people won't happen if you integrate people into a community rather than franchising it out to the Profit making private sector to provide provision housing in Concentration Camps.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 12:21:38 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:31:52 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.
So who is the beef with?
If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.
I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria
No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.
I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive
Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!
The fools who are involved in Hounding out people won't happen if you integrate people into a community rather than franchising it out to the Profit making private sector to provide provision housing in Concentration Camps.
They are the ones you have been voting in, they have ran with policies that you are happy with.
No one is to blame other than those that entrusted their vote to a party that they feel is working on their behalf.
So again, if you ain't happy with the current set up, change it.
There's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..
While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
Go to the source of the problem and voice your concerns, burning places and chanting racist slogans is so Mississippi Burning vibe for me.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 12:37:05 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 12:21:38 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:31:52 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.
So who is the beef with?
If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.
I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria
No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.
I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive
Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!
The fools who are involved in Hounding out people won't happen if you integrate people into a community rather than franchising it out to the Profit making private sector to provide provision housing in Concentration Camps.
They are the ones you have been voting in, they have ran with policies that you are happy with.
No one is to blame other than those that entrusted their vote to a party that they feel is working on their behalf.
So again, if you ain't happy with the current set up, change it.
There's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..
While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
Go to the source of the problem and voice your concerns, burning places and chanting racist slogans is so Mississippi Burning vibe for me.
Anyone who voices concerns will be called a Right wing Racist pretty quickly. The media are now owned by the Government. They subsidise all their costs.
The Political Parties are in cahoots with the developers/Businessmen/Hoteliers putting together these concentration camps. Even The Kerry Heay-Rae's have got in on the act.
There are plenty of ordinary people who have no ties to any political group who go to protest. They often get labeled where orchestrated gangs join the group and cause damage and trouble. Most of these gangs are financially supported to cause trouble.
The Political Parties are well tuned machines. Most have tradition, money and troops on the ground. They may have bad years but there is always a core to keep them going. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have a new synergy where they now vote for each other across party lines. They are nearly one and the same only better when it comes to getting votes.
Sinn Fein - A rebel without a cause anymore. Lost in the who are we trying to please now. Shocking 4 years in (so called) opposition. Going nowhere!
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 01:08:22 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 12:37:05 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 12:21:38 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:31:52 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.
So who is the beef with?
If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.
I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria
No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.
I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive
Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!
The fools who are involved in Hounding out people won't happen if you integrate people into a community rather than franchising it out to the Profit making private sector to provide provision housing in Concentration Camps.
They are the ones you have been voting in, they have ran with policies that you are happy with.
No one is to blame other than those that entrusted their vote to a party that they feel is working on their behalf.
So again, if you ain't happy with the current set up, change it.
There's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..
While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
Go to the source of the problem and voice your concerns, burning places and chanting racist slogans is so Mississippi Burning vibe for me.
Anyone who voices concerns will be called a Right wing Racist pretty quickly. The media are now owned by the Government. They subsidise all their costs.
The Political Parties are in cahoots with the developers/Businessmen/Hoteliers putting together these concentration camps. Even The Kerry Heay-Rae's have got in on the act.
There are plenty of ordinary people who have no ties to any political group who go to protest. They often get labeled where orchestrated gangs join the group and cause damage and trouble. Most of these gangs are financially supported to cause trouble.
The Political Parties are well tuned machines. Most have tradition, money and troops on the ground. They may have bad years but there is always a core to keep them going. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have a new synergy where they now vote for each other across party lines. They are nearly one and the same only better when it comes to getting votes.
Sinn Fein - A rebel without a cause anymore. Lost in the who are we trying to please now. Shocking 4 years in (so called) opposition. Going nowhere!
there is voicing a concern and there is voicing a concern
hey guys, I am not sure putting all these people into a community without a plan to integrate them is the best way to go, can we maybe have a think about how we can do that
v
Ireland is full, get them out and then rioting and burning down hotels
Big difference
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 01:08:22 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 12:37:05 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 12:21:38 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:31:52 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.
So who is the beef with?
If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.
I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria
No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.
I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive
Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!
The fools who are involved in Hounding out people won't happen if you integrate people into a community rather than franchising it out to the Profit making private sector to provide provision housing in Concentration Camps.
They are the ones you have been voting in, they have ran with policies that you are happy with.
No one is to blame other than those that entrusted their vote to a party that they feel is working on their behalf.
So again, if you ain't happy with the current set up, change it.
There's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..
While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
Go to the source of the problem and voice your concerns, burning places and chanting racist slogans is so Mississippi Burning vibe for me.
Anyone who voices concerns will be called a Right wing Racist pretty quickly. The media are now owned by the Government. They subsidise all their costs.
The Political Parties are in cahoots with the developers/Businessmen/Hoteliers putting together these concentration camps. Even The Kerry Heay-Rae's have got in on the act.
There are plenty of ordinary people who have no ties to any political group who go to protest. They often get labeled where orchestrated gangs join the group and cause damage and trouble. Most of these gangs are financially supported to cause trouble.
The Political Parties are well tuned machines. Most have tradition, money and troops on the ground. They may have bad years but there is always a core to keep them going. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have a new synergy where they now vote for each other across party lines. They are nearly one and the same only better when it comes to getting votes.
Sinn Fein - A rebel without a cause anymore. Lost in the who are we trying to please now. Shocking 4 years in (so called) opposition. Going nowhere!
Blaming SF for them being in opposition for this is shocking!
It's like blaming Labour for all of the Tories f**k ups for the last 14 years..
Give your head a wobble
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 12:37:05 AMThere's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..
While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
It may have been a stupid thing to do, but it the length of the sentence - and the others handed down - put to bed the notion of an independent judiciary.
And you mentioned Sudan. Why can't they just go to Saudi Arabia?
Quote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 08:30:21 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 12:37:05 AMThere's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..
While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
It may have been a stupid thing to do, but it the length of the sentence - and the others handed down - put to bed the notion of an independent judiciary.
And you mentioned Sudan. Why can't they just go to Saudi Arabia?
Mainly because its involvement with the current civil war? You do have some knowledge of stuff that goes on outside of your white picket fence?
Shouldn't stop them taking refugees. The West will take 'em from anywhere.
Stabbing pigs FFS!!!
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/work-begins-at-thornton-hall-site-to-house-asylum-seekers-with-a-number-of-arrests-made-as-tensions-rise/a2071581714.html
Quote from: Rossfan on August 15, 2024, 09:10:24 AMStabbing pigs FFS!!!
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/work-begins-at-thornton-hall-site-to-house-asylum-seekers-with-a-number-of-arrests-made-as-tensions-rise/a2071581714.html
If people are stabbing pigs there is something wrong with them. How can any of these eejits think they have the moral high ground. I'm going to defend our children from the mmuslim barbarians by stabbing some pigs 🥴
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 07:33:15 AMBlaming SF for them being in opposition for this is shocking!
It's like blaming Labour for all of the Tories f**k ups for the last 14 years..
Give your head a wobble
In fairness they ran with the herd the last 4 years. The last Referendum they were like lap-dogs. Only Aontú swam against the tide. Their only policy is a referendum for a united Ireland, which they fire out monthly. Which is a commendable aim but there are other pressing issues at the moment.
They have hidden for these Immigrant issues.
They don't know who they are anymore or who they represent.
"Time to issue tighter controls on people coming into this country
Their country has full employment, is actively importing people to work in it's economy and yet it's fighting age young people are travelling halfway round the world to come here
Send them all home "
https://x.com/nearyty_9/status/1823893165402980427?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg
They can't be criminals, theyre white Irish.
Stop with the "work" word.
Them lads would break out in a rash at the thought of working in a job🥶.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 15, 2024, 10:57:36 AMJees! That's unreal... can you imagine the Far Right in Australia jumped on this to whip up frenzied mobs (as they've done here and England) to beat down on Irish people... mostly our kids out there...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.9news.com.au/article/50cb4c1a-e6dc-4845-91f9-0d985a2fbb6f
Why didn't a neighbouring country take in these Irish refugees?
Quote from: johnnycool on August 15, 2024, 11:57:01 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 15, 2024, 10:57:36 AMJees! That's unreal... can you imagine the Far Right in Australia jumped on this to whip up frenzied mobs (as they've done here and England) to beat down on Irish people... mostly our kids out there...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.9news.com.au/article/50cb4c1a-e6dc-4845-91f9-0d985a2fbb6f
Why didn't a neighbouring country take in these Irish refugees?
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 15, 2024, 10:57:36 AMJees! That's unreal... can you imagine the Far Right in Australia jumped on this to whip up frenzied mobs (as they've done here and England) to beat down on Irish people... mostly our kids out there...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.9news.com.au/article/50cb4c1a-e6dc-4845-91f9-0d985a2fbb6f
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 15, 2024, 10:57:36 AMJees! That's unreal... can you imagine the Far Right in Australia jumped on this to whip up frenzied mobs (as they've done here and England) to beat down on Irish people... mostly our kids out there...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.9news.com.au/article/50cb4c1a-e6dc-4845-91f9-0d985a2fbb6f
Let me see if I have this right
Seeing as Irish people commit crimes overseas we should have an open borders immigration policy at home
Makes perfect sense
Whitey
What makes sense is this. Bad people do bad things, its doesn't matter where you are from they'll do it and the police and courts will deal with it.
Now for the stupid people, we have a policy of bringing in and looking after asylum seekers, I'm not sure if you are aware of that, but its a thing, now its up to the government to process it better or more efficiently, so the voters need to address that with the policy makers if they are not happy. Hounding people coming here isn't good.
Once someone is processed then they are allowed to stay or sent back (granted that seems to be sorted better), and irrespective of whether they are brown/yellow/red or white they can stay. If they do a crime they will then be processed by the courts.
Assuming people will commit crimes based what country/colour they came/have from does not mean we paint them all with the same brush, only someone with low IQ will believe that.
You have a serious hard on for saying open borders, I don't think we have it but you continue to say it ::)
The links to people from Ireland doing bad things in other countries shows that countries take people in and unfortunately they have a negative effect. You can't get it right every time, only a fool would think that.
Are you saying we shouldn't have any people coming here?
He's saying we shouldn't have any black, brown or Muslim people...
The government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
"I don't live in a swing state so my vote is essentially a protest vote
I voted for Jill Stein in 2016 because I thought Trump was going to win the popular vote but not the Electoral College, and would not accept the legitimacy of Clinton's pending victory"
Am I right in saying that you live in the U.S.A ?
Quote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 01:11:19 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Am I right in saying that you live in the U.S.A ?
Yes
Dual citizen
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:12:42 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 01:11:19 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Am I right in saying that you live in the U.S.A ?
Yes
Dual citizen
So you are a migrant then ?
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 12:17:01 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 15, 2024, 11:57:01 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 15, 2024, 10:57:36 AMJees! That's unreal... can you imagine the Far Right in Australia jumped on this to whip up frenzied mobs (as they've done here and England) to beat down on Irish people... mostly our kids out there...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.9news.com.au/article/50cb4c1a-e6dc-4845-91f9-0d985a2fbb6f
Why didn't a neighbouring country take in these Irish refugees?
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 15, 2024, 10:57:36 AMJees! That's unreal... can you imagine the Far Right in Australia jumped on this to whip up frenzied mobs (as they've done here and England) to beat down on Irish people... mostly our kids out there...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.9news.com.au/article/50cb4c1a-e6dc-4845-91f9-0d985a2fbb6f
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 15, 2024, 10:57:36 AMJees! That's unreal... can you imagine the Far Right in Australia jumped on this to whip up frenzied mobs (as they've done here and England) to beat down on Irish people... mostly our kids out there...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.9news.com.au/article/50cb4c1a-e6dc-4845-91f9-0d985a2fbb6f
Let me see if I have this right
Seeing as Irish people commit crimes overseas we should have an open borders immigration policy at home
Makes perfect sense
It highlights the hypocrisy of some here in Ireland who are so against immigration but may have themselves, their kids, family members going in the opposite direction, many illegally as well. A point well made.
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Ok, great we are getting somewhere, so who should the anger be aimed at?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:25:27 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Ok, great we are getting somewhere, so who should the anger be aimed at?
100% the government (and SinnFein)
I'm open to correction but as far as I'm concerned I never bashed any migrants on here
I've criticized criminals and I've criticized asylum fraudsters but I have no issue with genuine and lawful immigrants or asylum seekers as long as the government enforce the law to the letter
How long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
1. Sinn Fein's job as opposition is to oppose. They haven't done that.
2. The case of that 53 year old woman shows the judiciary is not, in fact, independent.
3. Do we want to preserve our way of life?
4. There is no onus on the country 'refugees' are travelling from to check their documents are in order.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
100% false
All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced
I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.
Big difference
Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.
When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?
On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?
All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees
If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:12:42 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 01:11:19 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Am I right in saying that you live in the U.S.A ?
Yes
Dual citizen
So's Tommy Robinson
Ja, und?
people before profit who claim to be big socialists now doing the dirty work for capitalists.
Another heroine saving us from foreign criminals and sharia law
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0815/1465176-thornton-hall/
Quote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 01:59:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
1. Sinn Fein's job as opposition is to oppose. They haven't done that.
2. The case of that 53 year old woman shows the judiciary is not, in fact, independent.
3. Do we want to preserve our way of life?
4. There is no onus on the country 'refugees' are travelling from to check their documents are in order.
So just oppose everything?
The 53 year old woman said she wants the mosques blown up with all the adult men in it, I'd add more years to it
My life is good, immersed in GAA and my family
My recommendation was to check these people before they leave these countries. Recommend not that it's being done
Another heroine fighting to preserve Whitey's "way of life"....
Are all nazifascist women in their 50's?
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0815/1465220-arrest-taoiseach/
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
100% false
All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced
I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.
Big difference
Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.
When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?
On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?
All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees
If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe
More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?
Quote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 01:59:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
1. Sinn Fein's job as opposition is to oppose. They haven't done that.
2. The case of that 53 year old woman shows the judiciary is not, in fact, independent.
3. Do we want to preserve our way of life?
4. There is no onus on the country 'refugees' are travelling from to check their documents are in order.
Our way of life isn't under threat.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 15, 2024, 09:02:19 PMAnother heroine fighting to preserve Whitey's "way of life"....
Are all nazifascist women in their 50's?
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0815/1465220-arrest-taoiseach/
Take a day off ffs
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
100% false
All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced
I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.
Big difference
Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.
When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?
On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?
All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees
If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe
More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?
I don't really understand your question
I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough
Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case
One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
Quote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
Quote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
Yeah, and what's more, we want to keep bringing in the world of entitled migrant freeloaders who have no ancestral link to the country to clog up our healthcare system, towards which they didn't contribute a single cent.
I don't know about the rest of you but my way of life just hasn't been the same of late. Its been stolen from me. A migrant took my job, took my wife and then forced me to become a Muslim. Every time I look out the window, all I can see are gangs of muslim men of fighting age roaming the streets with guns and knives and they're assaulting women and children at an awful rate altogether. I fear it's only a matter of time before I'll be forced to live under Shakira law.
Quote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
I wouldn't call it entitled-I'd call it enlightened
And I am 100% entitled to share my opinions on a discussion board....block me if you don't like my posts
And do you realize that US citizens retain the right to vote in the States regardless of where in the world they live or how long they have been resident outside the country. Ireland could learn a lot from them
There's an Irish guy I know, who lived here for 5-6 years back in the 90s. His daughter was born her-and moved back to Ireland at 6 months old. I don't think she has as much as stepped foot in the place since......and guess what....she has exactly as much say as to who gets elected to be my Senator or Congressman as I do, and me living here for close to 40 years paying gobs of tax.....so get down off your high horse
Don't worry, I'll be keeping my US Healthcare and hopping on a plane if something serious happens to me
Quote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:38:50 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
Yeah, and what's more, we want to keep bringing in the world of entitled migrant freeloaders who have no ancestral link to the country to clog up our healthcare system, towards which they didn't contribute a single cent.
Yes all those freeloading migrants in the healthcare system with their nursing and medical degrees.....
Quote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:46:55 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:38:50 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
Yeah, and what's more, we want to keep bringing in the world of entitled migrant freeloaders who have no ancestral link to the country to clog up our healthcare system, towards which they didn't contribute a single cent.
Yes all those freeloading LEGAL migrants in the healthcare system with their nursing and medical degrees.....
Fixed it for you
Quote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:46:55 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:38:50 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
Yeah, and what's more, we want to keep bringing in the world of entitled migrant freeloaders who have no ancestral link to the country to clog up our healthcare system, towards which they didn't contribute a single cent.
Yes all those freeloading migrants in the healthcare system with their nursing and medical degrees.....
Oh yeah, all our future doctors and engineers in the direct provision centres with their discount degrees.
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:45:01 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
I wouldn't call it entitled-I'd call it enlightened
And I am 100% entitled to share my opinions on a discussion board....block me if you don't like my posts
And do you realize that US citizens retain the right to vote in the States regardless of where in the world they live or how long they have been resident outside the country. Ireland could learn a lot from them
There's an Irish guy I know, who lived here for 5-6 years back in the 90s. His daughter was born her-and moved back to Ireland at 6 months old. I don't think she has as much as stepped foot in the place since......and guess what....she has exactly as much say as to who gets elected to be my Senator or Congressman as I do, and me living here for close to 40 years paying gobs of tax.....so get down off your high horse
Don't worry, I'll be keeping my US Healthcare and hopping on a plane if something serious happens to me
And there you have it
playing the system on both sides of the Atlantic
Whitey the Migrant
Quote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:53:08 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:45:01 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
I wouldn't call it entitled-I'd call it enlightened
And I am 100% entitled to share my opinions on a discussion board....block me if you don't like my posts
And do you realize that US citizens retain the right to vote in the States regardless of where in the world they live or how long they have been resident outside the country. Ireland could learn a lot from them
There's an Irish guy I know, who lived here for 5-6 years back in the 90s. His daughter was born her-and moved back to Ireland at 6 months old. I don't think she has as much as stepped foot in the place since......and guess what....she has exactly as much say as to who gets elected to be my Senator or Congressman as I do, and me living here for close to 40 years paying gobs of tax.....so get down off your high horse
Don't worry, I'll be keeping my US Healthcare and hopping on a plane if something serious happens to me
And there you have it
playing the system on both sides of the Atlantic
Whitey the Migrant
When you've worked as hard as I have you deserve some benefits
Jesus, must be hard on the aul head being full of stress, you won't last long, stress one of the biggest killers in life
Quote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:51:12 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:46:55 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:38:50 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
Yeah, and what's more, we want to keep bringing in the world of entitled migrant freeloaders who have no ancestral link to the country to clog up our healthcare system, towards which they didn't contribute a single cent.
Yes all those freeloading migrants in the healthcare system with their nursing and medical degrees.....
Oh yeah, all our future doctors and engineers in the direct provision centres with their discount degrees.
It must kill you to see people coming into this country with all the disadvantages any foreign worker has in terms of not knowing the country,having no support networks
And still passing you by
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:54:04 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:53:08 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:45:01 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
I wouldn't call it entitled-I'd call it enlightened
And I am 100% entitled to share my opinions on a discussion board....block me if you don't like my posts
And do you realize that US citizens retain the right to vote in the States regardless of where in the world they live or how long they have been resident outside the country. Ireland could learn a lot from them
There's an Irish guy I know, who lived here for 5-6 years back in the 90s. His daughter was born her-and moved back to Ireland at 6 months old. I don't think she has as much as stepped foot in the place since......and guess what....she has exactly as much say as to who gets elected to be my Senator or Congressman as I do, and me living here for close to 40 years paying gobs of tax.....so get down off your high horse
Don't worry, I'll be keeping my US Healthcare and hopping on a plane if something serious happens to me
And there you have it
playing the system on both sides of the Atlantic
Whitey the Migrant
When you've worked as hard as I have you deserve some benefits
That's migrants for you
They work hard and deserve some benefits
Quote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:55:55 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:51:12 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:46:55 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:38:50 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
Yeah, and what's more, we want to keep bringing in the world of entitled migrant freeloaders who have no ancestral link to the country to clog up our healthcare system, towards which they didn't contribute a single cent.
Yes all those freeloading migrants in the healthcare system with their nursing and medical degrees.....
Oh yeah, all our future doctors and engineers in the direct provision centres with their discount degrees.
It must kill you to see people coming into this country with all the disadvantages any foreign worker has in terms of not knowing the country,having no support networks
And still passing you by
All the welfare, hotels, medical cards, free legal aid for endless appeals... The prize for getting here illegally! You gotta love it!
Quote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 11:02:52 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:55:55 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:51:12 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:46:55 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:38:50 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
Yeah, and what's more, we want to keep bringing in the world of entitled migrant freeloaders who have no ancestral link to the country to clog up our healthcare system, towards which they didn't contribute a single cent.
Yes all those freeloading migrants in the healthcare system with their nursing and medical degrees.....
Oh yeah, all our future doctors and engineers in the direct provision centres with their discount degrees.
It must kill you to see people coming into this country with all the disadvantages any foreign worker has in terms of not knowing the country,having no support networks
And still passing you by
All the welfare, hotels, medical cards, free legal aid for endless appeals... The prize for getting here illegally! You gotta love it!
And yet they will all pass you by
And you living here all your life
It must kill ya
Quote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 11:05:04 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 11:02:52 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:55:55 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:51:12 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:46:55 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 10:38:50 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 10:14:47 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)
It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals
We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services
We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford
When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)
The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making
Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"
When the reality is you are a migrant in another country
You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland
I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence
I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do
And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement
The bang of entitlement off you
Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion
I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote
You don't
You are a migrant in another country
And stay in the states for your retirement
We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.
Yeah, and what's more, we want to keep bringing in the world of entitled migrant freeloaders who have no ancestral link to the country to clog up our healthcare system, towards which they didn't contribute a single cent.
Yes all those freeloading migrants in the healthcare system with their nursing and medical degrees.....
Oh yeah, all our future doctors and engineers in the direct provision centres with their discount degrees.
It must kill you to see people coming into this country with all the disadvantages any foreign worker has in terms of not knowing the country,having no support networks
And still passing you by
All the welfare, hotels, medical cards, free legal aid for endless appeals... The prize for getting here illegally! You gotta love it!
And yet they will all pass you by
And you living here all your life
It must kill ya
The more the merrier. They'll piss on you, too - don't worry. But you'll probably lap it up!
The state of these people!
It must be tough squinting out the blinds every night
The valley of the squinting fascists?
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:08:20 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
100% false
All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced
I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.
Big difference
Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.
When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?
On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?
All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees
If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe
More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?
I don't really understand your question
I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough
Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case
One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals
It's really not that hard to understand. You said 'asylum fraudsters and fake refugees' which is why I said so called - again not hard to understand. How do you know they are fraudsters or fake as at this stage their asylum claim has not been processed?
In my experience people who boast about how much and how hard they work are usually those who do neither
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 08:08:02 AMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:08:20 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
100% false
All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced
I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.
Big difference
Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.
When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?
On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?
All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees
If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe
More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?
I don't really understand your question
I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough
Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case
One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals
It's really not that hard to understand. You said 'asylum fraudsters and fake refugees' which is why I said so called - again not hard to understand. How do you know they are fraudsters or fake as at this stage their asylum claim has not been processed?
Its really not that hard to understand
If 60% of applications are denied.......then 60% are frauds/fakes
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/02/15/nearly-600-asylum-seekers-refused-refugee-status-in-january/
Instead of directing your ire towards me for pointing this out, you should be absolutely furious at theses fraudsters for taking resources from those genuinely in need........unless of course you are an advocate of open borders which i think you are
Quote from: whitey on August 16, 2024, 09:06:21 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 08:08:02 AMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:08:20 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
100% false
All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced
I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.
Big difference
Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.
When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?
On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?
All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees
If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe
More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?
I don't really understand your question
I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough
Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case
One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals
It's really not that hard to understand. You said 'asylum fraudsters and fake refugees' which is why I said so called - again not hard to understand. How do you know they are fraudsters or fake as at this stage their asylum claim has not been processed?
Its really not that hard to understand
If 60% of applications are denied.......then 60% are frauds/fakes
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/02/15/nearly-600-asylum-seekers-refused-refugee-status-in-january/
Instead of directing your ire towards me for pointing this out, you should be absolutely furious at theses fraudsters for taking resources from those genuinely in need........unless of course you are an advocate of open borders which i think you are
LOL. I am not directing any ire at you, I was asking a question and you have shown, with your answer, that you are prejudging asylum seekers. Cheers for that
The oul' far right mantra -
All black/brown/muslims are criminals or spongers.
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 09:39:40 AMQuote from: whitey on August 16, 2024, 09:06:21 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 08:08:02 AMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:08:20 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
100% false
All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced
I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.
Big difference
Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.
When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?
On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?
All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees
If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe
More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?
I don't really understand your question
I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough
Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case
One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals
It's really not that hard to understand. You said 'asylum fraudsters and fake refugees' which is why I said so called - again not hard to understand. How do you know they are fraudsters or fake as at this stage their asylum claim has not been processed?
Its really not that hard to understand
If 60% of applications are denied.......then 60% are frauds/fakes
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/02/15/nearly-600-asylum-seekers-refused-refugee-status-in-january/
Instead of directing your ire towards me for pointing this out, you should be absolutely furious at theses fraudsters for taking resources from those genuinely in need........unless of course you are an advocate of open borders which i think you are
LOL. I am not directing any ire at you, I was asking a question and you have shown, with your answer, that you are prejudging asylum seekers. Cheers for that
So now people can't have opinions when
the actual data proves that the majority of asylum applicants are frauds
Interesting
You should be absolutely furious that the government have let these fraudsters take valuable resources away from genuine asylum seekers
Quote from: whitey on August 16, 2024, 11:47:17 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 09:39:40 AMQuote from: whitey on August 16, 2024, 09:06:21 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 08:08:02 AMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:08:20 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PMQuote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.
As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.
Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.
You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.
As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports
100% false
All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced
I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.
Big difference
Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.
When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?
On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?
All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees
If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe
More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?
I don't really understand your question
I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough
Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case
One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals
It's really not that hard to understand. You said 'asylum fraudsters and fake refugees' which is why I said so called - again not hard to understand. How do you know they are fraudsters or fake as at this stage their asylum claim has not been processed?
Its really not that hard to understand
If 60% of applications are denied.......then 60% are frauds/fakes
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/02/15/nearly-600-asylum-seekers-refused-refugee-status-in-january/
Instead of directing your ire towards me for pointing this out, you should be absolutely furious at theses fraudsters for taking resources from those genuinely in need........unless of course you are an advocate of open borders which i think you are
LOL. I am not directing any ire at you, I was asking a question and you have shown, with your answer, that you are prejudging asylum seekers. Cheers for that
So now people can't have opinions when
the actual data proves that the majority of asylum applicants are frauds
Interesting
You should be absolutely furious that the government have let these fraudsters take valuable resources away from genuine asylum seekers
youre pre judging people. Dress it up whatever way you want but that is what you are doing
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 16, 2024, 12:43:23 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 16, 2024, 12:26:35 PMHave we just seen a pro hamas terror attack in galway bet sinn fein and pbp go quiet
We're in the twilight zone now... I can't see why Hamas would attack Galway... maybe you're being ironic?
However our country was attacked and taken over by imperialists similar to Israel and we fought back. And guess what... in 1986 Willie McCrea of the DUP proposed that Carrickmore, Crossmaglen, Dundalk and Drogheda be carpet bombed... as Israel are doing in GAZA now.. true
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/state-papers-dup-mp-william-mccrea-wanted-air-strikes-launched-on-the-republic-in-the-1980s/30867020.html
Eire-90 is back... wouldn't even bother lol
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 12:46:49 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 16, 2024, 12:43:23 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 16, 2024, 12:26:35 PMHave we just seen a pro hamas terror attack in galway bet sinn fein and pbp go quiet
We're in the twilight zone now... I can't see why Hamas would attack Galway... maybe you're being ironic?
However our country was attacked and taken over by imperialists similar to Israel and we fought back. And guess what... in 1986 Willie McCrea of the DUP proposed that Carrickmore, Crossmaglen, Dundalk and Drogheda be carpet bombed... as Israel are doing in GAZA now.. true
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/state-papers-dup-mp-william-mccrea-wanted-air-strikes-launched-on-the-republic-in-the-1980s/30867020.html
Eire-90 is back... wouldn't even bother lol
My thoughts exactly!
Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 16, 2024, 12:26:35 PMHave we just seen a pro hamas terror attack in galway bet sinn fein and pbp go quiet
If you'd bothered yer hole to check you'd see the Sinn Fein TD for the area is already all over it.
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/four-irishmen-arrested-in-connection-with-australian-burglary-spree-are-believed-part-of-international-crime-gang-YMJNOOFLB5FPVKJWUFEX75E2DY/ (https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/four-irishmen-arrested-in-connection-with-australian-burglary-spree-are-believed-part-of-international-crime-gang-YMJNOOFLB5FPVKJWUFEX75E2DY/)
Bloody immigrants bringing crime into a country eh....
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2024, 12:58:53 PMhttps://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/four-irishmen-arrested-in-connection-with-australian-burglary-spree-are-believed-part-of-international-crime-gang-YMJNOOFLB5FPVKJWUFEX75E2DY/ (https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/four-irishmen-arrested-in-connection-with-australian-burglary-spree-are-believed-part-of-international-crime-gang-YMJNOOFLB5FPVKJWUFEX75E2DY/)
Bloody immigrants bringing crime into a country eh....
No that's gypos
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 16, 2024, 01:10:27 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2024, 01:02:51 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2024, 12:58:53 PMhttps://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/four-irishmen-arrested-in-connection-with-australian-burglary-spree-are-believed-part-of-international-crime-gang-YMJNOOFLB5FPVKJWUFEX75E2DY/ (https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/four-irishmen-arrested-in-connection-with-australian-burglary-spree-are-believed-part-of-international-crime-gang-YMJNOOFLB5FPVKJWUFEX75E2DY/)
Bloody immigrants bringing crime into a country eh....
No that's gypos
They're Irish.
very poor language from your man there
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2024, 12:58:53 PMhttps://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/four-irishmen-arrested-in-connection-with-australian-burglary-spree-are-believed-part-of-international-crime-gang-YMJNOOFLB5FPVKJWUFEX75E2DY/ (https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/four-irishmen-arrested-in-connection-with-australian-burglary-spree-are-believed-part-of-international-crime-gang-YMJNOOFLB5FPVKJWUFEX75E2DY/)
Bloody immigrants bringing crime into a country eh....
Were these lads in for a few months, rob like hell then back to Ireland?
Must have been a wile squad of them in total.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 16, 2024, 12:54:17 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 16, 2024, 12:50:46 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 12:46:49 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 16, 2024, 12:43:23 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 16, 2024, 12:26:35 PMHave we just seen a pro hamas terror attack in galway bet sinn fein and pbp go quiet
We're in the twilight zone now... I can't see why Hamas would attack Galway... maybe you're being ironic?
However our country was attacked and taken over by imperialists similar to Israel and we fought back. And guess what... in 1986 Willie McCrea of the DUP proposed that Carrickmore, Crossmaglen, Dundalk and Drogheda be carpet bombed... as Israel are doing in GAZA now.. true
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/state-papers-dup-mp-william-mccrea-wanted-air-strikes-launched-on-the-republic-in-the-1980s/30867020.html
Eire-90 is back... wouldn't even bother lol
My thoughts exactly!
Not sure who Eire-90 is :D but suggesting Hamas attacks Galway is asking for a quid pro quo response!
Original post seems to be gone. Shame. I wanted to screenshot it and nominate for most stupid far right post of the day. There was stiff competition mind.
What actually happened in Galway? Havent seen anything
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 01:44:42 PMWhat actually happened in Galway? Havent seen anything
Army chaplain attacked at the gates of the barracks, stabbed a few times by the looks of it.
Quote from: johnnycool on August 16, 2024, 01:58:20 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 01:44:42 PMWhat actually happened in Galway? Havent seen anything
Army chaplain attacked at the gates of the barracks, stabbed a few times by the looks of it.
Feck, hope hes alright
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 03:34:20 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 16, 2024, 01:58:20 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 01:44:42 PMWhat actually happened in Galway? Havent seen anything
Army chaplain attacked at the gates of the barracks, stabbed a few times by the looks of it.
Feck, hope hes alright
He's "doing okay" Is awaiting surgery
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 03:34:20 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 16, 2024, 01:58:20 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 01:44:42 PMWhat actually happened in Galway? Havent seen anything
Army chaplain attacked at the gates of the barracks, stabbed a few times by the looks of it.
Feck, hope hes alright
According to Irish Times he shouted complaints about Irish military involvement in Mali
A buck of 16 was disarmed and arrested at the scene.
Reported as being an "Irish National" - presumably to stop the nazifascists spreading false vile bile.
did the irish far right mock those that died in sean grahams bookies and if they did have the irish far right now gone too far and i would imagine their maybe people now willing to take a stand against them.
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2024, 03:58:46 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 03:34:20 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 16, 2024, 01:58:20 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 01:44:42 PMWhat actually happened in Galway? Havent seen anything
Army chaplain attacked at the gates of the barracks, stabbed a few times by the looks of it.
Feck, hope hes alright
According to Irish Times he shouted complaints about Irish military involvement in Mali
Jesus. Not sure what some poor priest did wrong in Mali ffs.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2024, 04:01:58 PMA buck of 16 was disarmed and arrested at the scene.
Reported as being an "Irish National" - presumably to stop the nazifascists spreading false vile bile.
In other words, he's not Irish.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 16, 2024, 04:45:31 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2024, 04:01:58 PMA buck of 16 was disarmed and arrested at the scene.
Reported as being an "Irish National" - presumably to stop the nazifascists spreading false vile bile.
In other words, he's not Irish.
What let of Irish National do you not understand?
Not sure he has integrated too well
We shouldn't be prejudging Irish Nationals
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2024, 04:01:58 PMA buck of 16 was disarmed and arrested at the scene.
Reported as being an "Irish National" - presumably to stop the nazifascists spreading false vile bile.
Why would an Irish National care about Irish involvement in Mali ?
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 16, 2024, 05:29:15 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2024, 04:01:58 PMA buck of 16 was disarmed and arrested at the scene.
Reported as being an "Irish National" - presumably to stop the nazifascists spreading false vile bile.
Why would an Irish National care about Irish involvement in Mali ?
Irish nationals care about involvement in all parts of the world - Palestine etc
Well regardless of who they are-IMO their actions were driven by mental illness of some sort rather than ideology
Curious if the attacker knew it was a priest or if the poor guy was just in the wrong place at the same wrong time
Here come the racists
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 16, 2024, 05:55:57 PMRacists be more excited about making propaganda out of a tragic incident than concerned about the welfare of the victim. These are people who sidled up to loyalists who perpertrated the most henious acts on Catholics in the North.
Your boys weren't too shy about slaughter, either. Surprised you're so keen for more ethnic and/ or religious strife, though.
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 05:04:57 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 16, 2024, 04:45:31 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2024, 04:01:58 PMA buck of 16 was disarmed and arrested at the scene.
Reported as being an "Irish National" - presumably to stop the nazifascists spreading false vile bile.
In other words, he's not Irish.
What let of Irish National do you not understand?
Think you're a few lets short of a word there, yourself.
Oh, I understand very well the media-speak. When they say "investigating a terrorist motive", you can be pretty sure the "Irish National" was one of the "New Isish". Ooops, Freudian slip (really!) - I meant "New Irish"! Of course, that's just a hunch...
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2024, 05:43:20 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 16, 2024, 05:29:15 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2024, 04:01:58 PMA buck of 16 was disarmed and arrested at the scene.
Reported as being an "Irish National" - presumably to stop the nazifascists spreading false vile bile.
Why would an Irish National care about Irish involvement in Mali ?
Irish nationals care about involvement in all parts of the world - Palestine etc
That's maybe it, the reports of him being "radicalised" maybe wide of the mark.
Racist Tsunmai on here now and I've them all blocked lol
Quote from: Itchy on August 16, 2024, 07:22:59 PMRacist Tsunmai on here now and I've them all blocked lol
It's really quite sad
It's all im hearing about these days, all the teenage lads going mad about the Irish presence in Mali. It's never far from their thoughts.
They are still trying to come to terms with the fact that that fkr of a Taxi Driver rapist was Irish. This after they spending days fulminating about African/Asian rapists as their warped minds were convinced it was a foreigner.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2024, 05:43:20 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 16, 2024, 05:29:15 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2024, 04:01:58 PMA buck of 16 was disarmed and arrested at the scene.
Reported as being an "Irish National" - presumably to stop the nazifascists spreading false vile bile.
Why would an Irish National care about Irish involvement in Mali ?
Irish nationals care about involvement in all parts of the world - Palestine etc
That's correct, we all know plenty of people that have an interest in the situation in Palestine.
Do you know *anyone* that is following the situation in Mali ?
Well I suppose if you look back through history and this unquenchable thirst to hate people you don't know, even with the world being a much smaller place, it shouldn't be a shock to anyone. Though in power aren't helping. One run it this world and why folk would spend every waking hour hating on people is absolutely mind blowing. Definitely thought about smoking whaccy-baccy more now than the last 20 years (though it's got fierce strong by all accounts).
Quote from: Deerstalker on August 16, 2024, 09:36:22 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2024, 05:43:20 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 16, 2024, 05:29:15 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2024, 04:01:58 PMA buck of 16 was disarmed and arrested at the scene.
Reported as being an "Irish National" - presumably to stop the nazifascists spreading false vile bile.
Why would an Irish National care about Irish involvement in Mali ?
Irish nationals care about involvement in all parts of the world - Palestine etc
That's correct, we all know plenty of people that have an interest in the situation in Palestine.
Do you know *anyone* that is following the situation in Mali ?
I have no idea what you are getting at.
Just another proxy war were millions are displaced and murdered and no one really cares
It feels like a rerun of the 1930s.Social Media is really a series of echo chambers. People you know turn into conspiracy heads.
have sinn fein gone quiet about galway
Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 17, 2024, 10:21:03 AMhave sinn fein gone quiet about galway
Yes, it's clearly Sinn Feins fault. Have you told the cops. I'm sure they'd be awful interested in what you have to say.
It's not as if the other Parties are non stop talking about the incident.
There's also the oul sub judice stuff.
Meanwhile a report on the disgusting friends of "Coolock says no"
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/sick-taunts-directed-at-man-whose-dad-was-shot-dead-in-sean-grahams-massacre-by-anti-immigrant-thugs/a1819855659.html
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 07:27:41 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 16, 2024, 07:22:59 PMRacist Tsunmai on here now and I've them all blocked lol
It's really quite sad
Yeah, imagine coming onto a discussion board and blocking anyone you don't agree with! Pathetic, I'd say!
It's laughable
The people who were rejoicing and crowing when the Coolock group participated in the Belfast protest with the UDA, are now trying to stifle debate when it seems (yet to be confirmed) that a Catholic priest was stabbed by a radical Islamist
Couldn't make it up
You just know the 3 resident racists have been trawling social media, foaming at the mouth to get a photo of the 16 yr old kid who committed this crime - praying that he's back and Muslim so they can say "see, we told you, we were tight all along". They really are the saddest of sad bastards.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 17, 2024, 03:41:11 PMQuote from: whitey on August 17, 2024, 03:27:51 PMIt's laughable
The people who were rejoicing and crowing when the Coolock group participated in the Belfast protest with the UDA, are now trying to stifle debate when it seems (yet to be confirmed) that a Catholic priest was stabbed by a radical Islamist
Couldn't make it up
What's to debate? Impressionable teenager is radicalised online. Wasn't there an Irish woman in the army the same.m? His parents came over from Britain. Problem is how to stop idiots going down Internet rabit holes... fascists jump on this like it proves their point.. what point though?
Exactly my point
Does this one teenager represent the views of majority of the Muslim community in Ireland? (If he's even Muslim)
NO
Do the 3 or 4 (if that's how many there were) numbskulls from Coolock represent the majority of Irish people who have legitimate concerns about how the government is handling the migrant crisis?
NO
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 17, 2024, 03:54:27 PMQuote from: whitey on August 17, 2024, 03:48:04 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 17, 2024, 03:41:11 PMQuote from: whitey on August 17, 2024, 03:27:51 PMIt's laughable
The people who were rejoicing and crowing when the Coolock group participated in the Belfast protest with the UDA, are now trying to stifle debate when it seems (yet to be confirmed) that a Catholic priest was stabbed by a radical Islamist
Couldn't make it up
What's to debate? Impressionable teenager is radicalised online. Wasn't there an Irish woman in the army the same.m? His parents came over from Britain. Problem is how to stop idiots going down Internet rabit holes... fascists jump on this like it proves their point.. what point though?
Exactly my point
Does this one teenager represent the views of majority of the Muslim community in Ireland? (If he's even Muslim)
NO
Do the 3 or 4 (if that's how many there were) numbskulls from Coolock represent the majority of Irish people who have legitimate concerns about how the government is handling the migrant crisis?
NO
Considering the Irish protesters far right links to Tommy Robinson and failure to condemn or distance from the Coolock branch that didnt get rid of those loyalist protesters... good question.
Following that logic shouldn't all the open borders apologists also be called out over their failure to condemn or distance themselves from this and other recent atrocities committed by migrants and other newcomers.....good question.
I'm sure non racists would condemn all atrocities and not divide them into migrant/non-migrant atrocities.
I wouldn't be so sure
It's very easy for these folks to virtue signal and give themselves a self congratulatory pay on the back. It's another thing entirely to admit that SOME of the people being admitted have no business being here
A parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 17, 2024, 08:40:55 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
Absolutely. . I did ask myself this evening... "what am I doing arguing online with a racist or apologist for racists called Whitey?!"
So you would disagree with me that the "far left" in Ireland are advocates of open borders?
Quote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
I keep hearing this open borders nonsense as if it means something
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 17, 2024, 09:43:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
I keep hearing this open borders nonsense as if it means something
Humpf. As if your bleating of "racist" , "fascist", etc., isn't completely meaningless, either.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 17, 2024, 10:30:32 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 17, 2024, 09:43:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
I keep hearing this open borders nonsense as if it means something
Humpf. As if your bleating of "racist" , "fascist", etc., isn't completely meaningless, either.
Does your family, club mates, people that you deal with in a professional capacity know your views?
What would they say if they were presented with a selection of your posts from here ?
Would you be comfortable in standing over them
A hypothetical question for you to answer
Quote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:36:31 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 17, 2024, 10:30:32 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 17, 2024, 09:43:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
I keep hearing this open borders nonsense as if it means something
Humpf. As if your bleating of "racist" , "fascist", etc., isn't completely meaningless, either.
Does your family, club mates, people that you deal with in a professional capacity know your views?
What would they say if they were presented with a selection of your posts from here ?
Would you be comfortable in standing over them
A hypothetical question for you to answer
This is a forum where people post anonymously for a variety of reasons
Threatening to dox someone should result in a permanent ban
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:44:31 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:36:31 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 17, 2024, 10:30:32 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 17, 2024, 09:43:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
I keep hearing this open borders nonsense as if it means something
Humpf. As if your bleating of "racist" , "fascist", etc., isn't completely meaningless, either.
Does your family, club mates, people that you deal with in a professional capacity know your views?
What would they say if they were presented with a selection of your posts from here ?
Would you be comfortable in standing over them
A hypothetical question for you to answer
This is a forum where people post anonymously for a variety of reasons
Threatening to dox someone should result in a permanent ban
You missed the hypothetical bit there
Maybe Burdizzo is proud of his stance and is man enough to say in public what he types here
It's interesting that you would go crying to the mods though
Quote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:50:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:44:31 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:36:31 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 17, 2024, 10:30:32 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 17, 2024, 09:43:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
I keep hearing this open borders nonsense as if it means something
Humpf. As if your bleating of "racist" , "fascist", etc., isn't completely meaningless, either.
Does your family, club mates, people that you deal with in a professional capacity know your views?
What would they say if they were presented with a selection of your posts from here ?
Would you be comfortable in standing over them
A hypothetical question for you to answer
This is a forum where people post anonymously for a variety of reasons
Threatening to dox someone should result in a permanent ban
You missed the hypothetical bit there
Maybe Burdizzo is proud of his stance and is man enough to say in public what he types here
It's interesting that you would go crying to the mods though
I didn't go crying to anyone
That's the second time in about a fortnight that someone suggested doxing this poster. I can't remember who the other person who suggested it was
If you don't like what he has to say.....block him
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:59:39 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:50:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:44:31 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:36:31 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 17, 2024, 10:30:32 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 17, 2024, 09:43:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
I keep hearing this open borders nonsense as if it means something
Humpf. As if your bleating of "racist" , "fascist", etc., isn't completely meaningless, either.
Does your family, club mates, people that you deal with in a professional capacity know your views?
What would they say if they were presented with a selection of your posts from here ?
Would you be comfortable in standing over them
A hypothetical question for you to answer
This is a forum where people post anonymously for a variety of reasons
Threatening to dox someone should result in a permanent ban
You missed the hypothetical bit there
Maybe Burdizzo is proud of his stance and is man enough to say in public what he types here
It's interesting that you would go crying to the mods though
I didn't go crying to anyone
That's the second time in about a fortnight that someone suggested doxing this poster. I can't remember who the other person who suggested it was
If you don't like what he has to say.....block him
Hypothetical Question for you then
And the emphasis is on
Hypothetical
Before you go bringing the mods into it again
Are you comfortable with all you've posted here on this topic becoming public knowledge?
Is what you've posted here your public stance on the issue ?
Quote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 01:11:24 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:59:39 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:50:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:44:31 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:36:31 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 17, 2024, 10:30:32 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 17, 2024, 09:43:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
I keep hearing this open borders nonsense as if it means something
Humpf. As if your bleating of "racist" , "fascist", etc., isn't completely meaningless, either.
Does your family, club mates, people that you deal with in a professional capacity know your views?
What would they say if they were presented with a selection of your posts from here ?
Would you be comfortable in standing over them
A hypothetical question for you to answer
This is a forum where people post anonymously for a variety of reasons
Threatening to dox someone should result in a permanent ban
You missed the hypothetical bit there
Maybe Burdizzo is proud of his stance and is man enough to say in public what he types here
It's interesting that you would go crying to the mods though
I didn't go crying to anyone
That's the second time in about a fortnight that someone suggested doxing this poster. I can't remember who the other person who suggested it was
If you don't like what he has to say.....block him
Hypothetical Question for you then
And the emphasis is on
Hypothetical
Before you go bringing the mods into it again
Are you comfortable with all you've posted here on this topic becoming public knowledge?
Is what you've posted here your public stance on the issue ?
Now you're threatening to dox me or suggest that someone else does
I am 100% comfortable with everything I have posted on here on an anonymous forum.
I signed up knowing it was anonymous and knowing that the other posters were anonymous and as entitled to their views as I am even though I disagree with most of them
If you don't like interacting with people on an anonymous forum maybe you should shift your discussions to Facebook
There is an ignore feature for a reason
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 01:26:34 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 01:11:24 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:59:39 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:50:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:44:31 AMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:36:31 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 17, 2024, 10:30:32 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 17, 2024, 09:43:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
I keep hearing this open borders nonsense as if it means something
Humpf. As if your bleating of "racist" , "fascist", etc., isn't completely meaningless, either.
Does your family, club mates, people that you deal with in a professional capacity know your views?
What would they say if they were presented with a selection of your posts from here ?
Would you be comfortable in standing over them
A hypothetical question for you to answer
This is a forum where people post anonymously for a variety of reasons
Threatening to dox someone should result in a permanent ban
You missed the hypothetical bit there
Maybe Burdizzo is proud of his stance and is man enough to say in public what he types here
It's interesting that you would go crying to the mods though
I didn't go crying to anyone
That's the second time in about a fortnight that someone suggested doxing this poster. I can't remember who the other person who suggested it was
If you don't like what he has to say.....block him
Hypothetical Question for you then
And the emphasis is on
Hypothetical
Before you go bringing the mods into it again
Are you comfortable with all you've posted here on this topic becoming public knowledge?
Is what you've posted here your public stance on the issue ?
Now you're threatening to dox me or suggest that someone else does
I am 100% comfortable with everything I have posted on here on an anonymous forum.
I signed up knowing it was anonymous and knowing that the other posters were anonymous and as entitled to their views as I am even though I disagree with most of them
If you don't like interacting with people on an anonymous forum maybe you should shift your discussions to Facebook
There is an ignore feature for a reason
Jaysus your mad for this doxing
Whatever that is
We move on
Good to see your in favour of free speech at the very least
Quote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 12:36:31 AMQuote from: burdizzo on August 17, 2024, 10:30:32 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 17, 2024, 09:43:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2024, 06:40:42 PMA parade in Bekfast today.
No Police attacked, no one threatened, no businesses wrecked/burnt, no mocking of victims......
I suspect the 2 racist bucks wouldn't aporove.
"Open border apologists"....I've heard it all now!
Tell me you're a xenophobic racist without telling me....etc...
I keep hearing this open borders nonsense as if it means something
Humpf. As if your bleating of "racist" , "fascist", etc., isn't completely meaningless, either.
Does your family, club mates, people that you deal with in a professional capacity know your views?
What would they say if they were presented with a selection of your posts from here ?
Would you be comfortable in standing over them
A hypothetical question for you to answer
The answer is yes; people who know me well know I'm not a fan of open borders or forced multiculturalism. You know, it's not that weird - polls have consistently shown that most Irish people think we've had too much immigration, and plenty of people I know agree with what I think. Besides, I haven't said anything illegal, or anything I'm particularly ashamed of. Perhaps goading a few hypocrites too much is a bit petty, but - f**k it - nothing compared to some of the goading you do yourself!
So, yeah, dox away. It's a pretty low-down thing to do, but it's a tactic the left loves.
This stabbing not quite getting on the front pages of the papers but I'm a nice guy and I want to give burdy, whitey, kidder and the other racists every chance of investigating to check if the 2 men arrested were black and/or Muslim.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/two-brothers-seriously-injured-and-two-arrested-after-stabbing-incident-in-cork/a855732773.html
Had the story headed with two Irish nationals held in stabbing incident it would be interesting.
But two local headers (one in his 70's!) won't cut it.
No doubt "we've our own low life's, don't bring more in" and "open borders" will get a turn ;D
Oh and blame SF while you're at it
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2024, 10:31:18 AMHad the story headed with two Irish nationals held in stabbing incident it would be interesting.
But two local headers (one in his 70's!) won't cut it.
No doubt "we've our own low life's, don't bring more in" and "open borders" will get a turn ;D
Oh and blame SF while you're at it
Quite predictable isn't it
Yep.
Quote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 08:41:16 AMThis stabbing not quite getting on the front pages of the papers but I'm a nice guy and I want to give burdy, whitey, kidder and the other racists every chance of investigating to check if the 2 men arrested were black and/or Muslim.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/two-brothers-seriously-injured-and-two-arrested-after-stabbing-incident-in-cork/a855732773.html
Let me get this straight
Seeing as Irish people commit crime-which they have since the foundation of the state- we shouldnt enforce our own emigration laws?
Makes perfect sense
Where has anyone said that
Quote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 07:57:37 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:59:39 AMI didn't go crying to anyone
That's the second time in about a fortnight that someone suggested doxing this poster. I can't remember who the other person who suggested it was
If you don't like what he has to say.....block him
In fact, Whitey, it's the third time he's threatened to dox me! But, never mind!
Couple of things might amuse you: on the Laois forum a poster insinuated Clonadmad wasn't even from Laois, and he got a little high and mighty about it! Now, whether he's from Laois or not, I don't know, but if he's not - well, y'know, him having a go at you for living in America is a tad rich.
And from a discussion on a club getting transfers:
Quote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 04:59:47 PMIt's always a precarious game depending on imports
Much better to grow your own
I couldn't agree more!!
It wasn't "a poster"
It was You
Who made allegations against me on a laois gaa thread
About 18 months ago,
which were completely incorrect and which affected a completely innocent party who isn't even a poster on here
Screenshots of the allegations you made were then circulated outside of here and clubs then got involved
The mods here then had to get involved
And you were warned that if you stepped out of line once more
You'd be facing a permanent ban
He's a poisonous little racist too it seems.
Quote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 01:39:21 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 07:57:37 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:59:39 AMI didn't go crying to anyone
That's the second time in about a fortnight that someone suggested doxing this poster. I can't remember who the other person who suggested it was
If you don't like what he has to say.....block him
In fact, Whitey, it's the third time he's threatened to dox me! But, never mind!
Couple of things might amuse you: on the Laois forum a poster insinuated Clonadmad wasn't even from Laois, and he got a little high and mighty about it! Now, whether he's from Laois or not, I don't know, but if he's not - well, y'know, him having a go at you for living in America is a tad rich.
And from a discussion on a club getting transfers:
Quote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 04:59:47 PMIt's always a precarious game depending on imports
Much better to grow your own
I couldn't agree more!!
It wasn't "a poster"
It was You
Who made allegations against me on a laois gaa thread
About 18 months ago,
which were completely incorrect and which affected a completely innocent party who isn't even a poster on here
Screenshots of the allegations you made were then circulated outside of here and clubs then got involved
The mods here then had to get involved
And you were warned that if you stepped out of line once more
You'd be facing a permanent ban
Sorry, pal - you have the wrong guy.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 01:50:59 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 01:39:21 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 07:57:37 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:59:39 AMI didn't go crying to anyone
That's the second time in about a fortnight that someone suggested doxing this poster. I can't remember who the other person who suggested it was
If you don't like what he has to say.....block him
In fact, Whitey, it's the third time he's threatened to dox me! But, never mind!
Couple of things might amuse you: on the Laois forum a poster insinuated Clonadmad wasn't even from Laois, and he got a little high and mighty about it! Now, whether he's from Laois or not, I don't know, but if he's not - well, y'know, him having a go at you for living in America is a tad rich.
And from a discussion on a club getting transfers:
Quote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 04:59:47 PMIt's always a precarious game depending on imports
Much better to grow your own
I couldn't agree more!!
It wasn't "a poster"
It was You
Who made allegations against me on a laois gaa thread
About 18 months ago,
which were completely incorrect and which affected a completely innocent party who isn't even a poster on here
Screenshots of the allegations you made were then circulated outside of here and clubs then got involved
The mods here then had to get involved
And you were warned that if you stepped out of line once more
You'd be facing a permanent ban
Sorry, pal - you have the wrong guy.
Not really when I have the correspondence to hand
It's also interesting to see the exact same allegations being made on another thread in the last 3/4 days
The timing is interesting though
None of these allegations made in the last 12/14 months
The minute I challenge you here on this thread
Up they pop
Anyways a job for the mods to deal with
Quote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 01:56:44 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 01:50:59 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 01:39:21 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 07:57:37 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:59:39 AMI didn't go crying to anyone
That's the second time in about a fortnight that someone suggested doxing this poster. I can't remember who the other person who suggested it was
If you don't like what he has to say.....block him
In fact, Whitey, it's the third time he's threatened to dox me! But, never mind!
Couple of things might amuse you: on the Laois forum a poster insinuated Clonadmad wasn't even from Laois, and he got a little high and mighty about it! Now, whether he's from Laois or not, I don't know, but if he's not - well, y'know, him having a go at you for living in America is a tad rich.
And from a discussion on a club getting transfers:
Quote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 04:59:47 PMIt's always a precarious game depending on imports
Much better to grow your own
I couldn't agree more!!
It wasn't "a poster"
It was You
Who made allegations against me on a laois gaa thread
About 18 months ago,
which were completely incorrect and which affected a completely innocent party who isn't even a poster on here
Screenshots of the allegations you made were then circulated outside of here and clubs then got involved
The mods here then had to get involved
And you were warned that if you stepped out of line once more
You'd be facing a permanent ban
Sorry, pal - you have the wrong guy.
Not really when I have the correspondence to hand
It's also interesting to see the exact same allegations being made on another thread in the last 3/4 days
The timing is interesting though
None of these allegations made in the last 12/14 months
The minute I challenge you here on this thread
Up they pop
Anyways a job for the mods to deal with
Haven't a clue what you're on about. How the hell would I know - or care - if you're from Kilkenny, Tipperary, or Tyrone?!
And you chided someone else for "running to the mods"?!
You'd argue with your own shadow, you know that?!
Quote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 02:05:07 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 01:56:44 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 01:50:59 PMQuote from: clonadmad on August 18, 2024, 01:39:21 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 07:57:37 AMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 12:59:39 AMI didn't go crying to anyone
That's the second time in about a fortnight that someone suggested doxing this poster. I can't remember who the other person who suggested it was
If you don't like what he has to say.....block him
In fact, Whitey, it's the third time he's threatened to dox me! But, never mind!
Couple of things might amuse you: on the Laois forum a poster insinuated Clonadmad wasn't even from Laois, and he got a little high and mighty about it! Now, whether he's from Laois or not, I don't know, but if he's not - well, y'know, him having a go at you for living in America is a tad rich.
And from a discussion on a club getting transfers:
Quote from: clonadmad on August 06, 2024, 04:59:47 PMIt's always a precarious game depending on imports
Much better to grow your own
I couldn't agree more!!
It wasn't "a poster"
It was You
Who made allegations against me on a laois gaa thread
About 18 months ago,
which were completely incorrect and which affected a completely innocent party who isn't even a poster on here
Screenshots of the allegations you made were then circulated outside of here and clubs then got involved
The mods here then had to get involved
And you were warned that if you stepped out of line once more
You'd be facing a permanent ban
Sorry, pal - you have the wrong guy.
Not really when I have the correspondence to hand
It's also interesting to see the exact same allegations being made on another thread in the last 3/4 days
The timing is interesting though
None of these allegations made in the last 12/14 months
The minute I challenge you here on this thread
Up they pop
Anyways a job for the mods to deal with
Haven't a clue what you're on about. How the hell would I know - or care - if you're from Kilkenny, Tipperary, or Tyrone?!
And you chided someone else for "running to the mods"?!
You'd argue with your own shadow, you know that?!
An innocent party who isn't a poster on here was singled out for abuse in real life
When those allegations were made last year
You repeated the same allegation here today
That's why the mods have been informed
What allegations?
More on the stabbings in Cork.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41458195.html
Looks like they must be Muslims fighting over land as paper didn't say they weren't (This is the far right logic I see on Twitter all the time). Disgrace!
From browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
are you not the poster that was calling accommodation, concentration camps!!!
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:32:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
are you not the poster that was calling accommodation, concentration camps!!!
Breaffy Centre's 'prison-like conditions' as refugee family fights moving decision (https://www.galwaybeo.ie/news/watch-inside-breaffy-centres-prison-7771524)
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:38:33 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:32:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
are you not the poster that was calling accommodation, concentration camps!!!
Breaffy Centre's 'prison-like conditions' as refugee family fights moving decision (https://www.galwaybeo.ie/news/watch-inside-breaffy-centres-prison-7771524)
so not a concentration camp..
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:38:33 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:32:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
are you not the poster that was calling accommodation, concentration camps!!!
Breaffy Centre's 'prison-like conditions' as refugee family fights moving decision (https://www.galwaybeo.ie/news/watch-inside-breaffy-centres-prison-7771524)
I've been the Breaffy woods Hotel where the refugees in Castlebar are housed. Have you?
You came on here talking shite, were challenged and ran away. You want to give your ill informed opinions, back them up with nothing and the run off of if youre questioned on how you formed these opinions. Now you won't give your opinions as its gone nasty in here lol. Nothing as nasty as having racist views in my opinion.
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:56:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
what about evicting people who don't pay their mortgage or rent?
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:58:39 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:56:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
what about evicting people who don't pay their mortgage or rent?
I don't know about that-Were discussing emigration
Maybe there's another thread on that topic
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 05:01:06 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:58:39 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:56:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
what about evicting people who don't pay their mortgage or rent?
I don't know about that-Were discussing emigration
Maybe there's another thread on that topic
missing the point as usual... and were we not discussing enforcement of the law?
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 05:01:06 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:58:39 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:56:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
what about evicting people who don't pay their mortgage or rent?
I don't know about that-Were discussing emigration
Maybe there's another thread on that topic
Immigration surely?
Quote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 04:51:48 PMI've been the Breaffy woods Hotel where the refugees in Castlebar are housed. Have you?
You came on here talking shite, were challenged and ran away. You want to give your ill informed opinions, back them up with nothing and the run off of if youre questioned on how you formed these opinions. Now you won't give your opinions as its gone nasty in here lol. Nothing as nasty as having racist views in my opinion.
Sorry, what NGO did you say you worked for again?
Quote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 04:51:48 PMI've been the Breaffy woods Hotel where the refugees in Castlebar are housed. Have you?
Yes, I have.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 05:14:08 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 04:51:48 PMI've been the Breaffy woods Hotel where the refugees in Castlebar are housed. Have you?
Yes, I have.
You think it's like a concentration camp?
Quote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 05:17:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 05:14:08 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 04:51:48 PMI've been the Breaffy woods Hotel where the refugees in Castlebar are housed. Have you?
Yes, I have.
You think it's like a concentration camp?
I think there are a large amount of people in a small area with limited privacy. I think they are part of an unfortunate money racket. There is a Cattle mart feel to their treatment.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 05:37:48 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 05:17:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 05:14:08 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 04:51:48 PMI've been the Breaffy woods Hotel where the refugees in Castlebar are housed. Have you?
Yes, I have.
You think it's like a concentration camp?
I think there are a large amount of people in a small area with limited privacy. I think they are part of an unfortunate money racket. There is a Cattle mart feel to their treatment.
so your concern is for the type and quality of accommodation more than anything else? you must be fuming at those burning down potential accommodation
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 05:02:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 05:01:06 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:58:39 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:56:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
what about evicting people who don't pay their mortgage or rent?
I don't know about that-Were discussing emigration
Maybe there's another thread on that topic
missing the point as usual... and were we not discussing enforcement of the law?
Yes
We were discussing enforcement of the law as it pertained to immigration/emigration
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 06:12:07 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 05:02:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 05:01:06 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:58:39 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:56:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
what about evicting people who don't pay their mortgage or rent?
I don't know about that-Were discussing emigration
Maybe there's another thread on that topic
missing the point as usual... and were we not discussing enforcement of the law?
Yes
We were discussing enforcement of the law as it pertained to immigration/emigration
law and order USA,
why are you only concerned when it relates to immigration/emigration? why is that the only law you are focused on...
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 06:21:06 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 06:12:07 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 05:02:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 05:01:06 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:58:39 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:56:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
what about evicting people who don't pay their mortgage or rent?
I don't know about that-Were discussing emigration
Maybe there's another thread on that topic
missing the point as usual... and were we not discussing enforcement of the law?
Yes
We were discussing enforcement of the law as it pertained to immigration/emigration
law and order USA,
why are you only concerned when it relates to immigration/emigration? why is that the only law you are focused on... I
Who said that ?
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 06:21:44 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 06:21:06 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 06:12:07 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 05:02:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 05:01:06 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:58:39 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:56:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
what about evicting people who don't pay their mortgage or rent?
I don't know about that-Were discussing emigration
Maybe there's another thread on that topic
missing the point as usual... and were we not discussing enforcement of the law?
Yes
We were discussing enforcement of the law as it pertained to immigration/emigration
law and order USA,
why are you only concerned when it relates to immigration/emigration? why is that the only law you are focused on... I
Who said that ?
Well you have said little or nothing about it and when I raised other enforcement of law and wasted garda resources you ignored it to focus on only one form of law enforcement
What laws are there on emigration? You can't stop people leaving. Surely you'd be in favour of that, with Ireland being full and all
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 06:24:27 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 06:21:44 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 06:21:06 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 06:12:07 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 05:02:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 05:01:06 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:58:39 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:56:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
what about evicting people who don't pay their mortgage or rent?
I don't know about that-Were discussing emigration
Maybe there's another thread on that topic
missing the point as usual... and were we not discussing enforcement of the law?
Yes
We were discussing enforcement of the law as it pertained to immigration/emigration
law and order USA,
why are you only concerned when it relates to immigration/emigration? why is that the only law you are focused on... I
Who said that ?
Well you have said little or nothing about it and when I raised other enforcement of law and wasted garda resources you ignored it to focus on only one form of law enforcement
I have absolutely no idea what you're taking about
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 18, 2024, 06:42:53 PMWhat laws are there on emigration? You can't stop people leaving. Surely you'd be in favour of that, with Ireland being full and all
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about
I see Drew Harris' biggest concern about extremism/ terrorism is the Irish branch(es) of nazifascism.
"Whitey" doesn't want dark skinned people coming to Ireland (or the US either I suspect).
Has no appetite though for US immigration laws to be enforced against Irish illegals in the US.
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 06:45:07 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 06:24:27 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 06:21:44 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 06:21:06 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 06:12:07 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 05:02:30 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 05:01:06 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:58:39 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:56:16 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 04:48:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 04:36:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 04:24:52 PMFrom browsing in and out of here sporadically, this stream has gotten very silly and very nasty.
Nothing but name calling and stupid examples or comparisons. Not to mention pigeon holing anyone veering any way from a left narrative.
There is no way I'd give my opinion to it anymore and I'm sure there are plenty more with polar views thinking the same looking into it or no longer even venturing that far.
It's a shame people on both sides can't see or acknowledge good points from the other.
(them again this stream is dominated by about 6 posters)
There's an extreme left of center undercurrent from many of the posters on this blog
A lot of virtue signaling and self congratulatory pats on the back for being so open minded and progressive
Whenever anyone offers a different opinion there is an almost instantaneous pile-on in an effort to stifle "dissent" and the prevent different opinions being shared
Criticize the governments for not enforcing existing emigration laws and hey presto you're a racist and a xenophobe.
You're caving to the mob by not sharing your opinion
Share away and ignore the clowns
what other laws that aren't enforced are you bleating on about???? none, why is that? its only the one law you are concerned with.. very little or no concern about all the garda resources wasted on policing far right and investigation required due to riots and arson.
What about deporting people who've been ordered deported
what about evicting people who don't pay their mortgage or rent?
I don't know about that-Were discussing emigration
Maybe there's another thread on that topic
missing the point as usual... and were we not discussing enforcement of the law?
Yes
We were discussing enforcement of the law as it pertained to immigration/emigration
law and order USA,
why are you only concerned when it relates to immigration/emigration? why is that the only law you are focused on... I
Who said that ?
Well you have said little or nothing about it and when I raised other enforcement of law and wasted garda resources you ignored it to focus on only one form of law enforcement
I have absolutely no idea what you're taking about
I am not surprised.
The rise of the "far right" is directly related to emigration/immigration
The majority of people in the country are upset that the government are not enforcing the law and thereby letting a lot of fraudsters and fake refugees in at enormous cost-both financially and socially
Don't take my word in
https://www.newstalk.com/news/state-is-failing-to-enforce-its-own-immigration-rules-michael-mcnamara-td-1634712
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2024, 06:46:56 PMI see Drew Harris' biggest concern about extremism/ terrorism is the Irish branch(es) of nazifascism.
And a priest after being stabbed by a jihadi?! Right...
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 06:46:38 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 18, 2024, 06:42:53 PMWhat laws are there on emigration? You can't stop people leaving. Surely you'd be in favour of that, with Ireland being full and all
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about
Colour me shocked
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 05:58:06 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 05:37:48 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 05:17:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 05:14:08 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 04:51:48 PMI've been the Breaffy woods Hotel where the refugees in Castlebar are housed. Have you?
Yes, I have.
You think it's like a concentration camp?
I think there are a large amount of people in a small area with limited privacy. I think they are part of an unfortunate money racket. There is a Cattle mart feel to their treatment.
so your concern is for the type and quality of accommodation more than anything else? you must be fuming at those burning down potential accommodation
I have no time for those plebs. Most of those involved in that sort of
''Protesting'' have no ones interest at heart. Most of those move from town to town and join the latest protest, cause trouble, bring the local name down and disrupt negotiation or talks (that won't happen anyway - but are not helped) . Most involved in the Riots in Dublin where chancers who seen a chance to riot and loot. They are poorly educated, lack moral fibre and lack social conscience.
They tarnish those who have legitimate concerns and want to protest peacefully. They give distractions away from weak governments and prospective asset rich business people.
There is money involved on all sides of this. Immigrants and refugees are the Pawns.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 07:24:30 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 05:58:06 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 05:37:48 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 05:17:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 05:14:08 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 04:51:48 PMI've been the Breaffy woods Hotel where the refugees in Castlebar are housed. Have you?
Yes, I have.
You think it's like a concentration camp?
I think there are a large amount of people in a small area with limited privacy. I think they are part of an unfortunate money racket. There is a Cattle mart feel to their treatment.
so your concern is for the type and quality of accommodation more than anything else? you must be fuming at those burning down potential accommodation
I have no time for those plebs. Most of those involved in that sort of ''Protesting'' have no ones interest at heart. Most of those move from town to town and join the latest protest, cause trouble, bring the local name down and disrupt negotiation or talks (that won't happen anyway - but are not helped) . Most involved in the Riots in Dublin where chancers who seen a chance to riot and loot. They are poorly educated, lack moral fibre and lack social conscience.
They tarnish those who have legitimate concerns and want to protest peacefully. They give distractions away from weak governments and prospective asset rich business people.
There is money involved on all sides of this. Immigrants and refugees are the Pawns.
what are the legitimate concerns?
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 07:30:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 07:24:30 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2024, 05:58:06 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 05:37:48 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 05:17:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 05:14:08 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 04:51:48 PMI've been the Breaffy woods Hotel where the refugees in Castlebar are housed. Have you?
Yes, I have.
You think it's like a concentration camp?
I think there are a large amount of people in a small area with limited privacy. I think they are part of an unfortunate money racket. There is a Cattle mart feel to their treatment.
so your concern is for the type and quality of accommodation more than anything else? you must be fuming at those burning down potential accommodation
I have no time for those plebs. Most of those involved in that sort of ''Protesting'' have no ones interest at heart. Most of those move from town to town and join the latest protest, cause trouble, bring the local name down and disrupt negotiation or talks (that won't happen anyway - but are not helped) . Most involved in the Riots in Dublin where chancers who seen a chance to riot and loot. They are poorly educated, lack moral fibre and lack social conscience.
They tarnish those who have legitimate concerns and want to protest peacefully. They give distractions away from weak governments and prospective asset rich business people.
There is money involved on all sides of this. Immigrants and refugees are the Pawns.
what are the legitimate concerns?
Large numbers of Single Males coming into a community. Services in a community put under pressure - such as health. The creation of Ghettos - Better integration needed. Education being affected - where an influx come into a small community.
Look - we are not integrating. This creates a us and them!
Naturally, we have to put a limit on the amount coming in.
Ok give me the break down on males and females coming into the country illegally, remember we have a county of over 6 million north and south, you can do it with percentages or numbers to make it better for you.
List me where education is breaking down considering ( I'll put the norths figures in) in the north the recent A level results show a continuous rise in results in comparison to the rest of the uk who took same tests.
Integration takes decades, are you expecting it to happen in weeks or months?
Are all those "single males" in poor health?
Are they all of school going age?
"Limit on those coming in".... do you mean we refuse to accept applicants for asylum once a certain number is reached?
Does that also apply to Brits and EU people?
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2024, 08:24:55 PM"Limit on those coming in".... do you mean we refuse to accept applicants for asylum once a certain number is reached?
Yes, there has to be quota's and limits. Do you know how big Africa/Asia is?
What is the problem with limits?
Did Croke Park have a limit for who seen ACDC last night? Why could they not let every ACDC fan in? Why did they show prejudice and not let everybody that was an ACDC fan in? Surely that wasn't fair?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 08:39:42 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2024, 08:24:55 PM"Limit on those coming in".... do you mean we refuse to accept applicants for asylum once a certain number is reached?
Yes, there has to be quota's and limits. Do you know how big Africa/Asia is?
What is the problem with limits?
Did Croke Park have a limit for who seen ACDC last night? Why could they not let every ACDC fan in? Why did they show prejudice and not let everybody that was an ACDC fan in? Surely that wasn't fair?
Just answer the question! Btw, the crowd that was in last night was completely made up of internationals!!
And the staff around it was mainly if not all were made up of possibly immigrants as locals wouldn't lower themselves to work those jobs😉
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2024, 08:21:51 PMIntegration takes decades, are you expecting it to happen in weeks or months?
I'm expecting our government to have a plan that deals with this in a non business way for the weeks, months, years and Decades ahead. Why are the Government involving the Private sector in making huge money from this? Sure it will take time, but couldn't the money spent on Private firms who provide provisional housing not being spent by the government in the Public sector investment?
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 08:41:02 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 08:39:42 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2024, 08:24:55 PM"Limit on those coming in".... do you mean we refuse to accept applicants for asylum once a certain number is reached?
Yes, there has to be quota's and limits. Do you know how big Africa/Asia is?
What is the problem with limits?
Did Croke Park have a limit for who seen ACDC last night? Why could they not let every ACDC fan in? Why did they show prejudice and not let everybody that was an ACDC fan in? Surely that wasn't fair?
Wtf!! :D :D :D
Well, why did they have limit?
International Law hasnt reached Mayo yet.
I note it's only Asians and Africans mentioned.
Hard to integrate people when you have mobs blockading accomodations, taking (stupid abd dubious) Court actions, burning buildings and abusing foreigners, holding protest marches against foreigners (oh no! We're concerned about schools, GPs etc....)
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2024, 08:51:59 PMInternational Law hasnt reached Mayo yet.
I note it's only Asians and Africans mentioned.
Hard to integrate people when you have mobs blockading accomodations, taking (stupid abd dubious) Court actions, burning buildings and abusing foreigners, holding protest marches against foreigners (oh no! We're concerned about schools, GPs etc....)
Asians and Africans have the largest populations. But it should be the same for everyone else.
Those mobs are fools and get the headlines. There are a lot of peaceful protestors who get no headline, are in no way racist and just want to get on with their lives.
I do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2024, 08:47:58 PMJust answer the question! Btw, the crowd that was in last night was completely made up of internationals!!
And the staff around it was mainly if not all were made up of possibly immigrants as locals wouldn't lower themselves to work those jobs😉
And no doubt the staff made up of immigrants do a job that the locals won't do and do it well and are hopefully well integrated and not abused.
(A complete tangent on the argument)
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
Quote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2024, 08:24:55 PMAre all those "single males" in poor health?
Are they all of school going age?
"Limit on those coming in".... do you mean we refuse to accept applicants for asylum once a certain number is reached?
Does that also apply to Brits and EU people?
And there it is folks, all the proof you'll ever need, that there are in fact people who believe in open borders
No limits whatsoever-
Even though some/many have transited through a myriad of safe countries to get to Ireland
Even though they come from countries deemed safe by the EU
Even though we don't even know who they are because they destroyed their passports
Even though they have failed applications in other EU countries or the UK
Even though some have verified criminal convictions
Open borders ! Massive hard on now for whitey ;D
Please show me the policy from Ireland on open borders :P
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 08:55:59 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2024, 08:51:59 PMInternational Law hasnt reached Mayo yet.
I note it's only Asians and Africans mentioned.
Hard to integrate people when you have mobs blockading accomodations, taking (stupid abd dubious) Court actions, burning buildings and abusing foreigners, holding protest marches against foreigners (oh no! We're concerned about schools, GPs etc....)
Asians and Africans have the largest populations. But it should be the same for everyone else.
Those mobs are fools and get the headlines. There are a lot of peaceful protestors who get no headline, are in no way racist and just want to get on with their lives.
What is stopping those people from getting on with their lives? It isn't Africans and/or Asians anyway
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2024, 10:13:16 PMOpen borders ! Massive hard on now for whitey ;D
Please show me the policy from Ireland on open borders :P
Easy question for you
Should we have a maximum limit on the number we accept?
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 10:18:23 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2024, 10:13:16 PMOpen borders ! Massive hard on now for whitey ;D
Please show me the policy from Ireland on open borders :P
Easy question for you
Should we have a maximum limit on the number we accept?
Yes, easy question for you, does it matter what colour they are?
Open borders mean, and this isn't difficult for someone that was able to fill in a visa form, that if they meet the criteria they are in, we are part of the Eu and that comes with it.
If someone doesn't they are or should be sent back. It's not rocket science. I haven't heard one person saying different, but hey ho you keep going on, if countries limited 'arrivals' you'd still be lifting bins at 6am in Tyrone or some other county in the north ( which is ok to do btw)
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2024, 10:24:32 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 10:18:23 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2024, 10:13:16 PMOpen borders ! Massive hard on now for whitey ;D
Please show me the policy from Ireland on open borders :P
Easy question for you
Should we have a maximum limit on the number we accept?
Yes, easy question for you, does it matter what colour they are?
Open borders mean, and this isn't difficult for someone that was able to fill in a visa form, that if they meet the criteria they are in, we are part of the Eu and that comes with it.
If someone doesn't they are or should be sent back. It's not rocket science. I haven't heard one person saying different, but hey ho you keep going on, if countries limited 'arrivals' you'd still be lifting bins at 6am in Tyrone or some other county in the north ( which is ok to do btw)
So no limits
Fair enough
Quote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 11:26:39 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 11:14:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
What a nasty inhumane comment.
Be some influx if all our people and their generations around the world because of famine, war and unemployment were made to go home.
You realize that some of the people you're defending go back "home" on vacation several times a year and some have even sublet their taxpayer funded accommodation
Comparing these welfare tourists to Irish people fleeing the famine is virtue signaling of historic proportions
(FWIW-I was in Ireland in June and saw plenty of UA reg Audis, Porches and BMWs)
Not to mention this: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/tanaiste-defends-states-payment-of-up-to-1m-a-month-for-ukrainian-pets/
Scum. Full stop
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 19, 2024, 12:14:48 AMQuote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:08:16 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 11:26:39 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 11:14:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
What a nasty inhumane comment.
Be some influx if all our people and their generations around the world because of famine, war and unemployment were made to go home.
You realize that some of the people you're defending go back "home" on vacation several times a year and some have even sublet their taxpayer funded accommodation
Comparing these welfare tourists to Irish people fleeing the famine is virtue signaling of historic proportions
(FWIW-I was in Ireland in June and saw plenty of UA reg Audis, Porches and BMWs)
Not to mention this: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/tanaiste-defends-states-payment-of-up-to-1m-a-month-for-ukrainian-pets/
It was a response to this comment.. "What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests."
I met your type when I was in America racist little guests of a nation. Now trying to whip up your racism across the Atlantic through social media...
Remind me again....I must have been off school that day
What race are Ukrainians?
LOL-and what about the thousands seeking asylum from countries where there's NO WAR?
https://brusselssignal.eu/2024/08/afghan-asylum-seekers-in-germany-make-sneaky-visits-home-broadcaster-says/
https://www.slobodenpecat.mk/en/germanski-politichari-baraat-avganistancite-koi-odat-na-odmor-vo-tatkovinata-da-go-izgubat-statusot-na-azilanti/
And (supposedly) there are actually Afghans going home as vacation as well
-" Germany must remain an open country, but not a naive one. The authorities must guarantee that people who seek help from us, but at the same time go on holiday in the country they fled from, will quickly lose their status as asylum seekers and leave Germany, Joachim Stamp, the German government's commissioner for migrations from the Liberal Democratic Party (FDP)."
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 19, 2024, 01:50:29 AMWe see you... :)
https://x.com/newschambers/status/1515240498453266435?lang=en
A piss poor gathering.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1824488551720841218/zZCqMp2u?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 09:58:48 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2024, 08:24:55 PMAre all those "single males" in poor health?
Are they all of school going age?
"Limit on those coming in".... do you mean we refuse to accept applicants for asylum once a certain number is reached?
Does that also apply to Brits and EU people?
And there it is folks, all the proof you'll ever need, that there are in fact people who believe in open borders
No limits whatsoever-
Even though some/many have transited through a myriad of safe countries to get to Ireland
Even though they come from countries deemed safe by the EU
Even though we don't even know who they are because they destroyed their passports
Even though they have failed applications in other EU countries or the UK
Even though some have verified criminal convictions
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2024, 10:13:16 PMOpen borders ! Massive hard on now for whitey ;D
Please show me the policy from Ireland on open borders :P
whitey thinks he can just waltz though Dublin airport anytime he visits ireland from his yank home
Quote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:44:02 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 19, 2024, 12:14:48 AMQuote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:08:16 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 11:26:39 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 11:14:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
What a nasty inhumane comment.
Be some influx if all our people and their generations around the world because of famine, war and unemployment were made to go home.
You realize that some of the people you're defending go back "home" on vacation several times a year and some have even sublet their taxpayer funded accommodation
Comparing these welfare tourists to Irish people fleeing the famine is virtue signaling of historic proportions
(FWIW-I was in Ireland in June and saw plenty of UA reg Audis, Porches and BMWs)
Not to mention this: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/tanaiste-defends-states-payment-of-up-to-1m-a-month-for-ukrainian-pets/
It was a response to this comment.. "What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests."
I met your type when I was in America racist little guests of a nation. Now trying to whip up your racism across the Atlantic through social media...
Remind me again....I must have been off school that day
What race are Ukrainians?
LOL-and what about the thousands seeking asylum from countries where there's NO WAR?
there doesnt have to be a war for a person to be able to claim asylum. You knew that right? Right?
Quote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:47:54 AMhttps://brusselssignal.eu/2024/08/afghan-asylum-seekers-in-germany-make-sneaky-visits-home-broadcaster-says/
https://www.slobodenpecat.mk/en/germanski-politichari-baraat-avganistancite-koi-odat-na-odmor-vo-tatkovinata-da-go-izgubat-statusot-na-azilanti/
And (supposedly) there are actually Afghans going home as vacation as well
-" Germany must remain an open country, but not a naive one. The authorities must guarantee that people who seek help from us, but at the same time go on holiday in the country they fled from, will quickly lose their status as asylum seekers and leave Germany, Joachim Stamp, the German government's commissioner for migrations from the Liberal Democratic Party (FDP)."
this generally does happen to those who go back to their home countries once they have been granted asylum
F<r right politics are a feature of the economic system. There are no solutions. For low info voters it's wall to wall bullshit.
The softly softly policy coming home to roost.....
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41458384.html
Scum who rioted in Dublin last November still haven't been dealt with by the Courts.
Contrast with the English rioters, arrested and sentenced within a few days!
The "farage riots" a prime example.
It has become very polarised too and the opposite happens. Not every sc**bag is "far right" though the reverse is not necessarily the case ;D
The far right and far left labels have pretty much lost their meaning really.
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 11:42:53 AMLet me get this straight
Seeing as Irish people commit crime-which they have since the foundation of the state- we shouldnt enforce our own emigration laws?
Makes perfect sense
Did anyone ever get to the bottom of what these emigration laws are supposed to entail?
Like - is there a limit of who is allowed to leave to Ireland?
Is there an age limit?
Is there a limit by county?
Do different countries get different quotas?
How are they calculated?
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 19, 2024, 04:25:01 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 11:42:53 AMLet me get this straight
Seeing as Irish people commit crime-which they have since the foundation of the state- we shouldnt enforce our own emigration laws?
Makes perfect sense
Did anyone ever get to the bottom of what these emigration laws are supposed to entail?
Like - is there a limit of who is allowed to leave to Ireland?
Is there an age limit?
Is there a limit by county?
Do different countries get different quotas?
How are they calculated?
I certainly know the criteria i would like set for emigration and I'd insist on sending them to North Korea.
And a gang of them fighting at Mass in Donegal......
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 19, 2024, 04:25:01 PMQuote from: whitey on August 18, 2024, 11:42:53 AMLet me get this straight
Seeing as Irish people commit crime-which they have since the foundation of the state- we shouldnt enforce our own emigration laws?
Makes perfect sense
Did anyone ever get to the bottom of what these emigration laws are supposed to entail?
Like - is there a limit of who is allowed to leave to Ireland?
Is there an age limit?
Is there a limit by county?
Do different countries get different quotas?
How are they calculated?
He didn't understand the question
Quote from: Itchy on August 20, 2024, 09:22:07 PMI'm sure a bright spark like you is aware Romania is in the EU and so have free movement in the EU. Or are you advocating Ireland withdraw from the EU? Or are you looking for A La Carte EU membership where we take nice things like the grant money and access to markets but don't allow free travel or take our share of refugees? You'd want to read the last 20 pages to understand why I posted that link.
Yeah, I'm sure an NGO like you would know that Ireland takes more "refugees" per head of population than any other country in the EU. I wonder why that is?
Sweden let in a fair few Asylum Seekers in 2013.
(https://static.guim.co.uk/ni/1417194692855/Asylum_Seekers_Datablog.svg)
I'm talking about currently, as in this year. Sweden has actually turned things around a little, and have, this year, more return migrations than asylum seekers. Or, as the open-borders freaks would say, 'negative net immigration'. Thanks to the Sweden Democrats.
The same people who used terms like trump derangement syndrome seem to be losing their minds over starmer
Sweden's new migration policy (https://www.government.se/government-policy/swedens-new-migration-policy/)
Sweden's new migration policy
Sweden's migration policy is undergoing a paradigm shift. The Government is intensifying its efforts to reduce, in full compliance with Sweden's international commitments, the number of migrants coming irregularly to Sweden. Labour immigration fraud and abuses must be stopped and the 'shadow society' combated. Sweden will continue to have dignified reception standards, and those who have no grounds for protection or other legal right to stay in Sweden must be expelled.
Then there are these sad figures. Which are probably even more now.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/50CC/production/_101048602_migrant_deaths_medit_04_03_2016_624gr-nc.png.webp)
Wonder why we don't get the thousands and thousands of Germans, Italians etc exercising their free movement to move to Ireland, like we do with the Romanians.
Must be the Guinness
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 20, 2024, 10:39:43 PMWonder why we don't get the thousands and thousands of Germans, Italians etc exercising their free movement to move to Ireland, like we do with the Romanians.
Must be the Guinness
The Germans wouldn't wash your car.
Wonder why we didn't get tens of thousands of Belgians emigrating to the US, Australia, England etc like we did with the Irish.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 20, 2024, 11:30:07 PMWonder why we didn't get tens of thousands of Belgians emigrating to the US, Australia, England etc like we did with the Irish.
Plenty of Germans, Belgian, Dutch, Spanish, French etc in Oz. Ever been?
Wonder will T***p or Harris win the Belgian -American vote?
Is this the type of thing why residents had 'concerns' about who was planted into their community.
https://x.com/TezTruth81/status/1826201017286905893?
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 12:27:52 PMQuote from: cryptoGuy on August 21, 2024, 12:16:17 PMIs this the type of thing why residents had 'concerns' about who was planted into their community.
https://x.com/TezTruth81/status/1826201017286905893?
"Several concerned parents confronted the men and asked that they delete all content and An Gardai Síochána were called. A local Gardai confirmed that images were taken by the men in question, and he requested that the content be deleted from their devices."
Why did the Gardai not confiscate the phones? Why make them delete what is potential evidence? Why were the phones not examined to see what other previous images were on them?
If that's the extent of Gardai action.. seems very shoddy. Were they not even arrested?
Is there no local newspaper journalist to phone the Gardai for a statement?
Is there any independent evidence that this happened at all?
You still wouldn't believe it
so thats a no
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PMYou still wouldn't believe it
I would believe it if was verified by Gardai... It is a very serious incident but the way it is presented there it just doesn't make sense how Gardai handled it. Like if there could be criminal proceedings why would they delete the photos?.. the evidence! Surely theyd seize the phones and examine them thoroughly. Other bits too don't add up...
Possibility they were 'underage' and couldn't be prosecuted anyway?
The Twitter post says it was recorded on video if any of you disbelievers want to request it
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 20, 2024, 10:43:03 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 20, 2024, 10:39:43 PMWonder why we don't get the thousands and thousands of Germans, Italians etc exercising their free movement to move to Ireland, like we do with the Romanians.
Must be the Guinness
The Germans wouldn't wash your car.
He should check out how many English live here, the ignorant muppet.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PMYou still wouldn't believe it
I would believe it if was verified by Gardai... It is a very serious incident but the way it is presented there it just doesn't make sense how Gardai handled it. Like if there could be criminal proceedings why would they delete the photos?.. the evidence! Surely theyd seize the phones and examine them thoroughly. Other bits too don't add up...
The probably just seen activity in the pitch and wandered in for a look and were amazed at what they were seen as they had never seen a GAA match before. There is a good chance that they took pictures to show there mates back home this great game but were unfortunate that it was underage girls that they were photographing and the locals took offence....
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 21, 2024, 01:56:20 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PMYou still wouldn't believe it
I would believe it if was verified by Gardai... It is a very serious incident but the way it is presented there it just doesn't make sense how Gardai handled it. Like if there could be criminal proceedings why would they delete the photos?.. the evidence! Surely theyd seize the phones and examine them thoroughly. Other bits too don't add up...
The probably just seen activity in the pitch and wandered in for a look and were amazed at what they were seen as they had never seen a GAA match before. There is a good chance that they took pictures to show there mates back home this great game but were unfortunate that it was underage girls that they were photographing and the locals took offence....
I'd say you're prob right. Down in Leitrim camping two summers ago. There was a championship match on, the renter of our boat gave me the heads up. I couldn't make it but he said a good squad being put up in the local hotel were all going, totally fascinated by gaelic games apparently.
Looking down through the twitter replies is a real head melt. Is there nobody on there with their actual name? It's a very very dangerous place. How anyone spends anytime on twitter is beyond me, it's a platform for absolute binlids with nothing else to be at.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 21, 2024, 03:33:24 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 21, 2024, 01:56:20 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PMYou still wouldn't believe it
I would believe it if was verified by Gardai... It is a very serious incident but the way it is presented there it just doesn't make sense how Gardai handled it. Like if there could be criminal proceedings why would they delete the photos?.. the evidence! Surely theyd seize the phones and examine them thoroughly. Other bits too don't add up...
The probably just seen activity in the pitch and wandered in for a look and were amazed at what they were seen as they had never seen a GAA match before. There is a good chance that they took pictures to show there mates back home this great game but were unfortunate that it was underage girls that they were photographing and the locals took offence....
I'd say you're prob right. Down in Leitrim camping two summers ago. There was a championship match on, the renter of our boat gave me the heads up. I couldn't make it but he said a good squad being put up in the local hotel were all going, totally fascinated by gaelic games apparently.
Looking down through the twitter replies is a real head melt. Is there nobody on there with their actual name? It's a very very dangerous place. How anyone spends anytime on twitter is beyond me, it's a platform for absolute binlids with nothing else to be at.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 21, 2024, 03:33:24 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 21, 2024, 01:56:20 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PMYou still wouldn't believe it
I would believe it if was verified by Gardai... It is a very serious incident but the way it is presented there it just doesn't make sense how Gardai handled it. Like if there could be criminal proceedings why would they delete the photos?.. the evidence! Surely theyd seize the phones and examine them thoroughly. Other bits too don't add up...
The probably just seen activity in the pitch and wandered in for a look and were amazed at what they were seen as they had never seen a GAA match before. There is a good chance that they took pictures to show there mates back home this great game but were unfortunate that it was underage girls that they were photographing and the locals took offence....
I'd say you're prob right. Down in Leitrim camping two summers ago. There was a championship match on, the renter of our boat gave me the heads up. I couldn't make it but he said a good squad being put up in the local hotel were all going, totally fascinated by gaelic games apparently.
Looking down through the twitter replies is a real head melt. Is there nobody on there with their actual name? It's a very very dangerous place. How anyone spends anytime on twitter is beyond me, it's a platform for absolute binlids with nothing else to be at.
An absolute cesspit. Is why I got off it over a year ago.
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 21, 2024, 01:56:20 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PMYou still wouldn't believe it
I would believe it if was verified by Gardai... It is a very serious incident but the way it is presented there it just doesn't make sense how Gardai handled it. Like if there could be criminal proceedings why would they delete the photos?.. the evidence! Surely theyd seize the phones and examine them thoroughly. Other bits too don't add up...
The probably just seen activity in the pitch and wandered in for a look and were amazed at what they were seen as they had never seen a GAA match before. There is a good chance that they took pictures to show there mates back home this great game but were unfortunate that it was underage girls that they were photographing and the locals took offence....
Hmmm, is it really more likely?
Is there ever an innocent excuse for taking pictures/video's of obviously underage girls in shorts?
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 21, 2024, 04:58:35 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 21, 2024, 01:56:20 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PMYou still wouldn't believe it
I would believe it if was verified by Gardai... It is a very serious incident but the way it is presented there it just doesn't make sense how Gardai handled it. Like if there could be criminal proceedings why would they delete the photos?.. the evidence! Surely theyd seize the phones and examine them thoroughly. Other bits too don't add up...
The probably just seen activity in the pitch and wandered in for a look and were amazed at what they were seen as they had never seen a GAA match before. There is a good chance that they took pictures to show there mates back home this great game but were unfortunate that it was underage girls that they were photographing and the locals took offence....
Hmmm, is it really more likely?
Is there ever an innocent excuse for taking pictures/video's of obviously underage girls in shorts?
Well I saw a good one on twitter from a known far right sc**bag making a video of a "foreign" lad hanging around a play school for ages, saying he was dodgy a watching the kids. Shared all around twitter till a fella came on and revealed he was a local and had a child in playschool and was waiting for the day to finish. So you really need to ask who is posting this shit first and foremost.
Quote from: Itchy on August 21, 2024, 10:16:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 21, 2024, 04:58:35 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 21, 2024, 01:56:20 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PMYou still wouldn't believe it
I would believe it if was verified by Gardai... It is a very serious incident but the way it is presented there it just doesn't make sense how Gardai handled it. Like if there could be criminal proceedings why would they delete the photos?.. the evidence! Surely theyd seize the phones and examine them thoroughly. Other bits too don't add up...
The probably just seen activity in the pitch and wandered in for a look and were amazed at what they were seen as they had never seen a GAA match before. There is a good chance that they took pictures to show there mates back home this great game but were unfortunate that it was underage girls that they were photographing and the locals took offence....
Hmmm, is it really more likely?
Is there ever an innocent excuse for taking pictures/video's of obviously underage girls in shorts?
Well I saw a good one on twitter from a known far right sc**bag making a video of a "foreign" lad hanging around a play school for ages, saying he was dodgy a watching the kids. Shared all around twitter till a fella came on and revealed he was a local and had a child in playschool and was waiting for the day to finish. So you really need to ask who is posting this shit first and foremost.
Rubbish.
Quote from: Itchy on August 21, 2024, 10:16:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 21, 2024, 04:58:35 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 21, 2024, 01:56:20 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PMYou still wouldn't believe it
I would believe it if was verified by Gardai... It is a very serious incident but the way it is presented there it just doesn't make sense how Gardai handled it. Like if there could be criminal proceedings why would they delete the photos?.. the evidence! Surely theyd seize the phones and examine them thoroughly. Other bits too don't add up...
The probably just seen activity in the pitch and wandered in for a look and were amazed at what they were seen as they had never seen a GAA match before. There is a good chance that they took pictures to show there mates back home this great game but were unfortunate that it was underage girls that they were photographing and the locals took offence....
Hmmm, is it really more likely?
Is there ever an innocent excuse for taking pictures/video's of obviously underage girls in shorts?
Well I saw a good one on twitter from a known far right sc**bag making a video of a "foreign" lad hanging around a play school for ages, saying he was dodgy a watching the kids. Shared all around twitter till a fella came on and revealed he was a local and had a child in playschool and was waiting for the day to finish. So you really need to ask who is posting this shit first and foremost.
Yeah I'd well believe it. Would see plenty of similar things where people post a video of someone with a big caption and the usual replies to it then, but if you actually watch the video there is nothing going on.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 21, 2024, 03:33:24 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on August 21, 2024, 01:56:20 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 21, 2024, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PMYou still wouldn't believe it
I would believe it if was verified by Gardai... It is a very serious incident but the way it is presented there it just doesn't make sense how Gardai handled it. Like if there could be criminal proceedings why would they delete the photos?.. the evidence! Surely theyd seize the phones and examine them thoroughly. Other bits too don't add up...
The probably just seen activity in the pitch and wandered in for a look and were amazed at what they were seen as they had never seen a GAA match before. There is a good chance that they took pictures to show there mates back home this great game but were unfortunate that it was underage girls that they were photographing and the locals took offence....
I'd say you're prob right. Down in Leitrim camping two summers ago. There was a championship match on, the renter of our boat gave me the heads up. I couldn't make it but he said a good squad being put up in the local hotel were all going, totally fascinated by gaelic games apparently.
Looking down through the twitter replies is a real head melt. Is there nobody on there with their actual name? It's a very very dangerous place. How anyone spends anytime on twitter is beyond me, it's a platform for absolute binlids with nothing else to be at.
I just keep blocking people
This lad is not right in the head
https://x.com/irishrebel1965/status/1826696170518856177?s=46
A 1930s German village is missing a total eejit.....
Years ago this lot would have been dealt with by ira/inla now they stand back and do nothing.
Quote from: Father Murphy on August 22, 2024, 09:07:27 PMThis lad is not right in the head
https://x.com/irishrebel1965/status/1826696170518856177?s=46
Monty Python wouldn't have a look in, maybe the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen
Quote from: JoG2 on August 23, 2024, 12:50:56 AMQuote from: Father Murphy on August 22, 2024, 09:07:27 PMThis lad is not right in the head
https://x.com/irishrebel1965/status/1826696170518856177?s=46
Monty Python wouldn't have a look in, maybe the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen
You're right, it's like a Mel Brooks parody, complete with the quasi-SS uniform.
WTF is going on in Ireland with these whackjobs crawling out of the woodwork these past few years?
Quote from: JoG2 on August 23, 2024, 12:50:56 AMQuote from: Father Murphy on August 22, 2024, 09:07:27 PMThis lad is not right in the head
https://x.com/irishrebel1965/status/1826696170518856177?s=46
Monty Python wouldn't have a look in, maybe the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen
wait, that was actually real?
The bar burnt out in Glengormely the other day, graffiti on the premises saying Muslims out!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2024, 07:19:46 AMThe bar burnt out in Glengormely the other day, graffiti on the premises saying Muslims out!
Yeh I heard there was muslims in there drinking the hole out of it all night. Fair play to the local defenders of Ireland.
Former Chief Executive of east Belfast community organisation Charter NI and all round loyalist thug Dee Stitt to appear at Belfast Magistrates court this morning charged with distributing written material 'which was threatening, abusive or insulting thereby to stir up hatred or arouse fear'. He was arrested yesterday at Belfast City Airport.
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 23, 2024, 12:31:06 PMFormer Chief Executive of east Belfast community organisation Charter NI and all round loyalist thug Dee Stitt to appear at Belfast Magistrates court this morning charged with distributing written material 'which was threatening, abusive or insulting thereby to stir up hatred or arouse fear'. He was arrested yesterday at Belfast City Airport.
Is he not Arlene's buddy?
It was through gritted teeth that the DUP MLA Poots (the son) expressed his disappointment at the attacks but said they were not coming from the UDA though UDA members may be involved ;D
Quote from: marty34 on August 23, 2024, 12:56:43 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 23, 2024, 12:31:06 PMFormer Chief Executive of east Belfast community organisation Charter NI and all round loyalist thug Dee Stitt to appear at Belfast Magistrates court this morning charged with distributing written material 'which was threatening, abusive or insulting thereby to stir up hatred or arouse fear'. He was arrested yesterday at Belfast City Airport.
Is he not Arlene's buddy?
That's him
Another of our herouc defenders has been remanded in custody in Derry for abusing 2 Romanians.
Among his comnents were
" Speak English,this is Ireland".
Irony probably lost on him🙄
Quote from: Rossfan on August 23, 2024, 04:51:04 PMAnother of our herouc defenders has been remanded in custody in Derry for abusing 2 Romanians.
Among his comnents were
" Speak English,this is Ireland".
Irony probably lost on him🙄
An upstanding member of society up our way, from a wee town outside the City. Plenty of previous as you'd imagine
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41461804.html
That earlier lad, dressed straight out of the SS. An Irish Joseph Gobbels
Seems it was staged at Bèal na mBláth at the Collins memorial.
Journalist reveals why he left his native Ethiopia to seek asylum in Mayo (https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2024/08/24/journalist-reveals-why-he-left-his-native-ethiopia-to-seek-asylum-in-mayo/?fbclid=IwY2xjawE3NfxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVHLikisMTf1iO4NFYf_nptjZiLhXogUh8U3jIlTCOwpTt_H7szJJ6PDsQ_aem_2eRMbzWfkIWIlbSULv7KIQ)
Michael Minassie. . ."I couldn't understand why people who questioned my right to vote in the recent local elections in Mayo thought democratic Ireland should have the same yardstick on rights as repressive governments that massacre their own people with impunity."
Father Ted meets Justin Barrett
https://x.com/thelittlegreen6/status/1827367112194556125?t=2gx9_0tXZwIUF9reCEV_8A&s=19
Citizen journalist and racist in action. Just watch these 3 short videos and see this piece of scum at work
The start
https://x.com/Martu25114/status/1827416231915233520?t=b2iTQUbfPlhjtHM62yBGWQ&s=19
The harassment
https://x.com/lil_doza/status/1827482710077476931?t=QVu8B7LBmep-EdwzfeWs6Q&s=19
The arrest
https://x.com/lil_doza/status/1827437320804385080?t=af-9UEFUedzvXrLKVrlYRw&s=19
A dirty nasty piece of nazifascist sh1te.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 22, 2024, 09:55:27 PMA 1930s German village is missing a total eejit.....
Luckily they import them nowadays! Hear about the 'Festival Of Diversity' in Solingen?
One has to wonder why dissident republicans or old school republicans have not dealt with the irish far right movement yet is it because they are scared of them or something do they not want to be potray as being on the side of foreigners or something. Could it be because they all bark and no bite.
Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 25, 2024, 09:06:27 PMOne has to wonder why dissident republicans or old school republicans have not dealt with the irish far right movement yet is it because they are scared of them or something do they not want to be potray as being on the side of foreigners or something. Could it be because they all bark and no bite.
you should call the irps, they'll sort it
Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 25, 2024, 09:06:27 PMOne has to wonder why dissident republicans or old school republicans have not dealt with the irish far right movement yet is it because they are scared of them or something do they not want to be potray as being on the side of foreigners or something. Could it be because they all bark and no bite.
Probably because they know that 99% of people involved in the protests are not "far right" and the protestors represent the majority view
Quote from: whitey on August 25, 2024, 11:08:36 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 25, 2024, 09:06:27 PMOne has to wonder why dissident republicans or old school republicans have not dealt with the irish far right movement yet is it because they are scared of them or something do they not want to be potray as being on the side of foreigners or something. Could it be because they all bark and no bite.
Probably because they know that 99% of people involved in the protests are not "far right" and the protestors represent the majority view
How did the majority vote?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2024, 11:10:45 PMQuote from: whitey on August 25, 2024, 11:08:36 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 25, 2024, 09:06:27 PMOne has to wonder why dissident republicans or old school republicans have not dealt with the irish far right movement yet is it because they are scared of them or something do they not want to be potray as being on the side of foreigners or something. Could it be because they all bark and no bite.
Probably because they know that 99% of people involved in the protests are not "far right" and the protestors represent the majority view
How did the majority vote?
Eh....I must have missed that. When was the election held where there were 2 candidates-one for immigration and the other against
https://www.newstalk.com/news/poll-two-thirds-want-more-closed-immigration-policy-1726109
"Some 63% of those polled said they are in favour of a more closed policy to reduce the number of asylum seekers coming to Ireland.
Meanwhile, 15% said they want a more open border policy "
Was it 96% didn't vote for Whitey's favourites?
No doubt that will change when more people see Littler's video😁😆😅🤣😂
Believe whatever you want
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-07-23/irish-opposition-sinn-fein-toughens-immigration-stance-after-election-setback
Quote from: whitey on August 25, 2024, 11:16:42 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2024, 11:10:45 PMQuote from: whitey on August 25, 2024, 11:08:36 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 25, 2024, 09:06:27 PMOne has to wonder why dissident republicans or old school republicans have not dealt with the irish far right movement yet is it because they are scared of them or something do they not want to be potray as being on the side of foreigners or something. Could it be because they all bark and no bite.
Probably because they know that 99% of people involved in the protests are not "far right" and the protestors represent the majority view
How did the majority vote?
Eh....I must have missed that. When was the election held where there were 2 candidates-one for immigration and the other against
https://www.newstalk.com/news/poll-two-thirds-want-more-closed-immigration-policy-1726109
"Some 63% of those polled said they are in favour of a more closed policy to reduce the number of asylum seekers coming to Ireland.
Meanwhile, 15% said they want a more open border policy "
So it's not top of their list? Otherwise why would you vote in a crew that encourages open borders?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2024, 11:10:45 PMQuote from: whitey on August 25, 2024, 11:08:36 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 25, 2024, 09:06:27 PMOne has to wonder why dissident republicans or old school republicans have not dealt with the irish far right movement yet is it because they are scared of them or something do they not want to be potray as being on the side of foreigners or something. Could it be because they all bark and no bite.
Probably because they know that 99% of people involved in the protests are not "far right" and the protestors represent the majority view
How did the majority vote?
Remember the 27th Amendment to the Constitution, and the referendum for it in 2004? Tell me how the majority voted then, please? And the left - inc. Sinn Fein, no less - were trying to revisit it until a couple of years ago, before it became obvious in opinion polls that most people were sick of unlimited immigration. We have 21.82% of our population born outside the country - that's over one-fifth, and represents the highest proportion in the EU after Malta, Cyprus, and Luxembourg. No wonder people are sick of it. So, can we have that referendum, please?
You can't "reduce the number of asylum seekers coming to Ireland".
Those people turn up and seek asylum.
The anti immigrant candidates got at most 4% of the 1st Preference votes.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 25, 2024, 11:42:37 PMYou can't "reduce the number of asylum seekers coming to Ireland".
Those people turn up and seek asylum.
The anti immigrant candidates got at most 4% of the 1st Preference votes.
Of course you can........ by enforcing the law
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41329981.html
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2024, 11:29:39 PMQuote from: whitey on August 25, 2024, 11:16:42 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2024, 11:10:45 PMQuote from: whitey on August 25, 2024, 11:08:36 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 25, 2024, 09:06:27 PMOne has to wonder why dissident republicans or old school republicans have not dealt with the irish far right movement yet is it because they are scared of them or something do they not want to be potray as being on the side of foreigners or something. Could it be because they all bark and no bite.
Probably because they know that 99% of people involved in the protests are not "far right" and the protestors represent the majority view
How did the majority vote?
Eh....I must have missed that. When was the election held where there were 2 candidates-one for immigration and the other against
https://www.newstalk.com/news/poll-two-thirds-want-more-closed-immigration-policy-1726109
"Some 63% of those polled said they are in favour of a more closed policy to reduce the number of asylum seekers coming to Ireland.
Meanwhile, 15% said they want a more open border policy "
So it's not top of their list? Otherwise why would you vote in a crew that encourages open borders?
I answered a specific question that was asked. And there's plenty and mounting evidence that backs up my assertion
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/poll-50pc-in-favour-of-migrant-checkpoints-at-the-border-with-northern-ireland/a420206090.html
The poll finds 50pc want checkpoints on the Border to deter migrants. This rises to 52pc among Sinn Féin voters.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 25, 2024, 11:40:59 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2024, 11:10:45 PMQuote from: whitey on August 25, 2024, 11:08:36 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 25, 2024, 09:06:27 PMOne has to wonder why dissident republicans or old school republicans have not dealt with the irish far right movement yet is it because they are scared of them or something do they not want to be potray as being on the side of foreigners or something. Could it be because they all bark and no bite.
Probably because they know that 99% of people involved in the protests are not "far right" and the protestors represent the majority view
How did the majority vote?
Remember the 27th Amendment to the Constitution, and the referendum for it in 2004? Tell me how the majority voted then, please? And the left - inc. Sinn Fein, no less - were trying to revisit it until a couple of years ago, before it became obvious in opinion polls that most people were sick of unlimited immigration. We have 21.82% of our population born outside the country - that's over one-fifth, and represents the highest proportion in the EU after Malta, Cyprus, and Luxembourg. No wonder people are sick of it. So, can we have that referendum, please?
If it's that serious and so high on people's minds start an anti immigration party and see how well it goes at the next election, by your stats they'll take the most seats and be in power.
Interestingly, yet another poll this morning shows immigration is the number one concern for the electorate, and 75% have a negative perception of the government's handling of same. So, yes, it is important to people.
Was watching that video of the fascist harassing the man for feeding the "pigeons" and the "animals" as he called them, and thought to myself that the victim of the harrassment would have been better off just ignoring the nazi clown and let him rant away to himself until he inevitably got bored with the lack of attention and f**ked away off.
Then I realised that maybe that's the best approach to take with this thread and the horrible little racists that spend their time on it? Let it become nothing more than an echo chamber for themselves until they get bored with the lack of attention and finally f**k away off?
I don't know about the rest of you, but it would be nice to one day log into the general discusion section and not see this racists playground of a thread permamnently near the top of the page.
Quote from: King of the dingos on August 26, 2024, 10:03:35 AMQuote from: Snapchap on August 26, 2024, 09:46:46 AMWas watching that video of the fascist harassing the man for feeding the "pigeons" and the "animals" as he called them, and thought to myself that the victim of the harrassment would have been better off just ignoring the nazi clown and let him rant away to himself until he inevitably got bored with the lack of attention and f**ked away off.
Then I realised that maybe that's the best approach to take with this thread and the horrible little racists that spend their time on it? Let it become nothing more than an echo chamber for themselves until they get bored with the lack of attention and finally f**k away off?
I don't know about the rest of you, but it would be nice to one day log into the general discusion section and not see this racists playground of a thread permamnently near the top of the page.
lol.
Lol is right! This thread was initially given life by the open-borders loons to show how morally superior they were. In fact, as it turns out, they haven't a leg to stand on, and have now taken to blocking anyone whose points they don't like/ can't answer.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 26, 2024, 09:41:34 AMInterestingly, yet another poll this morning shows immigration is the number one concern for the electorate, and 75% have a negative perception of the government's handling of same. So, yes, it is important to people.
So by all accounts then FF/FG and SF will be gone from government and opposition the next day? As with a 75% showing as number one concern the new ones should have sorted Irelands 'problems' ;D
We had 2 elections 10 weeks ago.
I don't recall nazifascists getting many seats.
I'd like to see the questions that were asked on the Poll but its behind an Irish Times pay wall. I would consider myself not entirely happy with the governments performance on migration as there is a lack of a plan and certainly communication could be better. That's different than being an out and out racist like Burdizzo.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2024, 12:17:50 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 26, 2024, 09:41:34 AMInterestingly, yet another poll this morning shows immigration is the number one concern for the electorate, and 75% have a negative perception of the government's handling of same. So, yes, it is important to people.
So by all accounts then FF/FG and SF will be gone from government and opposition the next day? As with a 75% showing as number one concern the new ones should have sorted Irelands 'problems' ;D
So do you think maybe government policy is impacted by the polls
All of a sudden after not enforcing certain laws for years, they start enforcing them - eg cracking down on people arriving without papers
They add a bunch of countries to the list of safe countries
They make a token effort to deport people who've exhausted every legal option
Quote from: burdizzo on August 26, 2024, 09:41:34 AMInterestingly, yet another poll this morning shows immigration is the number one concern for the electorate, and 75% have a negative perception of the government's handling of same. So, yes, it is important to people.
I don't think that is quite right.
The first question was:
What is getting voters attention - key themes August 2024
Immigration 21%
Housing 19%
Social Policies 5%
Healthcare 4%
Cost of living/inflation 3%
Budget/Spending 3%
Crime/Gardai 3%
Education 3%
Taxes 3%
Employment/Econony at bottom at 2%
Then they looked at percentage positive/negative in the themes and 76% was negative around immigration and housing.
So that is really 76% of the 21% - the way I read it anyway.
Quote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:08:16 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 11:26:39 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 11:14:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
What a nasty inhumane comment.
Be some influx if all our people and their generations around the world because of famine, war and unemployment were made to go home.
You realize that some of the people you're defending go back "home" on vacation several times a year and some have even sublet their taxpayer funded accommodation
Comparing these welfare tourists to Irish people fleeing the famine is virtue signaling of historic proportions
(FWIW-I was in Ireland in June and saw plenty of UA reg Audis, Porches and BMWs)
Not to mention this: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/tanaiste-defends-states-payment-of-up-to-1m-a-month-for-ukrainian-pets/
Today should be a good reminder for the likes of Whitey why these "welfare tourists" have come to Ireland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_zbuzscNk
And imaging complaining about them returning home occasionally to visit family and friends and for having a nice car. The 'American Dream' can't be that great - it certainly hasn't erased your Irish begrudgery.
Quote from: Father Murphy on August 26, 2024, 02:11:06 PMQuote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:08:16 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 11:26:39 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 11:14:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
What a nasty inhumane comment.
Be some influx if all our people and their generations around the world because of famine, war and unemployment were made to go home.
You realize that some of the people you're defending go back "home" on vacation several times a year and some have even sublet their taxpayer funded accommodation
Comparing these welfare tourists to Irish people fleeing the famine is virtue signaling of historic proportions
(FWIW-I was in Ireland in June and saw plenty of UA reg Audis, Porches and BMWs)
Not to mention this: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/tanaiste-defends-states-payment-of-up-to-1m-a-month-for-ukrainian-pets/
Today should be a good reminder for the likes of Whitey why these "welfare tourists" have come to Ireland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_zbuzscNk
And imaging complaining about them returning home occasionally to visit family and friends and for having a nice car. The 'American Dream' can't be that great - it certainly hasn't erased your Irish begrudgery.
So do you think the Irish taxpayer should foot the bill for people who drive €80,000 luxury cars through 7 safe countries for free accomadation, food, education and medical care?
Not to mention free vetinary care and dog/cat day care for their pets?
Simple yes or no will suffice.
Quote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 02:26:07 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on August 26, 2024, 02:11:06 PMQuote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:08:16 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 11:26:39 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 11:14:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
What a nasty inhumane comment.
Be some influx if all our people and their generations around the world because of famine, war and unemployment were made to go home.
You realize that some of the people you're defending go back "home" on vacation several times a year and some have even sublet their taxpayer funded accommodation
Comparing these welfare tourists to Irish people fleeing the famine is virtue signaling of historic proportions
(FWIW-I was in Ireland in June and saw plenty of UA reg Audis, Porches and BMWs)
Not to mention this: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/tanaiste-defends-states-payment-of-up-to-1m-a-month-for-ukrainian-pets/
Today should be a good reminder for the likes of Whitey why these "welfare tourists" have come to Ireland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_zbuzscNk
And imaging complaining about them returning home occasionally to visit family and friends and for having a nice car. The 'American Dream' can't be that great - it certainly hasn't erased your Irish begrudgery.
So do you think the Irish taxpayer should foot the bill for people who drive €80,000 luxury cars through 7 safe countries for free accomadation, food, education and medical care?
Not to mention free vetinary care and dog/cat day care for their pets?
Simple yes or no will suffice.
Poland is the first safe country in the west. Should they have taken all the millions of Ukrainian refugees themselves based on your criteria?
A simple Yes or No will suffice ;)
Every single Ukrainian I know living in Ireland that initially was on 'welfare' is now working and working hard. Starting businesses. Paying taxes. Aren't you yanks and plastic yanks obsessed with other people paying taxes? You should be pleased.
Quote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 01:05:36 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2024, 12:17:50 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 26, 2024, 09:41:34 AMInterestingly, yet another poll this morning shows immigration is the number one concern for the electorate, and 75% have a negative perception of the government's handling of same. So, yes, it is important to people.
So by all accounts then FF/FG and SF will be gone from government and opposition the next day? As with a 75% showing as number one concern the new ones should have sorted Irelands 'problems' ;D
So do you think maybe government policy is impacted by the polls
All of a sudden after not enforcing certain laws for years, they start enforcing them - eg cracking down on people arriving without papers
They add a bunch of countries to the list of safe countries
They make a token effort to deport people who've exhausted every legal option
So its sorted now, so get back in your box, Ireland will be all white again ;)
Quote from: Father Murphy on August 26, 2024, 02:35:23 PMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 02:26:07 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on August 26, 2024, 02:11:06 PMQuote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:08:16 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 11:26:39 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 11:14:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
What a nasty inhumane comment.
Be some influx if all our people and their generations around the world because of famine, war and unemployment were made to go home.
You realize that some of the people you're defending go back "home" on vacation several times a year and some have even sublet their taxpayer funded accommodation
Comparing these welfare tourists to Irish people fleeing the famine is virtue signaling of historic proportions
(FWIW-I was in Ireland in June and saw plenty of UA reg Audis, Porches and BMWs)
Not to mention this: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/tanaiste-defends-states-payment-of-up-to-1m-a-month-for-ukrainian-pets/
Today should be a good reminder for the likes of Whitey why these "welfare tourists" have come to Ireland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_zbuzscNk
And imaging complaining about them returning home occasionally to visit family and friends and for having a nice car. The 'American Dream' can't be that great - it certainly hasn't erased your Irish begrudgery.
So do you think the Irish taxpayer should foot the bill for people who drive €80,000 luxury cars through 7 safe countries for free accomadation, food, education and medical care?
Not to mention free vetinary care and dog/cat day care for their pets?
Simple yes or no will suffice.
Poland is the first safe country in the west. Should they have taken all the millions of Ukrainian refugees themselves based on your criteria?
A simple Yes or No will suffice ;)
Every single Ukrainian I know living in Ireland that initially was on 'welfare' is now working and working hard. Starting businesses. Paying taxes. Aren't you yanks and plastic yanks obsessed with other people paying taxes? You should be pleased.
Don't take my word for it
https://kyivindependent.com/ireland-set-to-introduce-significant-reduction-in-benefits-for-ukrainian-refugees/
"The Irish government has said that around a third of Ukrainian refugees came to Ireland from "safe countries," with some Irish officials implying that some came to Ireland specifically because the welfare payments are higher"
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2024, 02:37:12 PMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 01:05:36 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2024, 12:17:50 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 26, 2024, 09:41:34 AMInterestingly, yet another poll this morning shows immigration is the number one concern for the electorate, and 75% have a negative perception of the government's handling of same. So, yes, it is important to people.
So by all accounts then FF/FG and SF will be gone from government and opposition the next day? As with a 75% showing as number one concern the new ones should have sorted Irelands 'problems' ;D
So do you think maybe government policy is impacted by the polls
All of a sudden after not enforcing certain laws for years, they start enforcing them - eg cracking down on people arriving without papers
They add a bunch of countries to the list of safe countries
They make a token effort to deport people who've exhausted every legal option
So its sorted now, so get back in your box, Ireland will be all white again ;)
I'm really looking forward to moving back in about 5 years time
I have a line on a house I'm going to buy in the next 6 months....just sorting out a few loose ends
Exciting times to be able to contribute to my home country
Strangely enough my cousin is heading back to have her kids secondary educated in the North, she's pretty well off so could afford privately.
They may return when completed though
America might not be the go to place, daughter back after nearly four months, wasn't her cup of tea either.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2024, 03:17:50 PMStrangely enough my cousin is heading back to have her kids secondary educated in the North, she's pretty well off so could afford privately.
They may return when completed though
America might not be the go to place, daughter back after nearly four months, wasn't her cup of tea either.
It's become almost impossible for people to start out fresh like we did 30-40 years ago.
It's kinda like those Facebook pages talking about the Irish on the building sites in London in the 70/80s-the "Golden Age" has definitely passed over here too (for new people thinking of coming over)
If your goal was to come over for the craic for a few years, that's still doable...but barely (cheap places the Irish lived in back in the 80s and early 90s have all become gentrified and would be completely unaffordable)
Quote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 02:56:25 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on August 26, 2024, 02:35:23 PMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 02:26:07 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on August 26, 2024, 02:11:06 PMQuote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:08:16 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 11:26:39 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 11:14:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
What a nasty inhumane comment.
Be some influx if all our people and their generations around the world because of famine, war and unemployment were made to go home.
You realize that some of the people you're defending go back "home" on vacation several times a year and some have even sublet their taxpayer funded accommodation
Comparing these welfare tourists to Irish people fleeing the famine is virtue signaling of historic proportions
(FWIW-I was in Ireland in June and saw plenty of UA reg Audis, Porches and BMWs)
Not to mention this: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/tanaiste-defends-states-payment-of-up-to-1m-a-month-for-ukrainian-pets/
Today should be a good reminder for the likes of Whitey why these "welfare tourists" have come to Ireland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_zbuzscNk
And imaging complaining about them returning home occasionally to visit family and friends and for having a nice car. The 'American Dream' can't be that great - it certainly hasn't erased your Irish begrudgery.
So do you think the Irish taxpayer should foot the bill for people who drive €80,000 luxury cars through 7 safe countries for free accomadation, food, education and medical care?
Not to mention free vetinary care and dog/cat day care for their pets?
Simple yes or no will suffice.
Poland is the first safe country in the west. Should they have taken all the millions of Ukrainian refugees themselves based on your criteria?
A simple Yes or No will suffice ;)
Every single Ukrainian I know living in Ireland that initially was on 'welfare' is now working and working hard. Starting businesses. Paying taxes. Aren't you yanks and plastic yanks obsessed with other people paying taxes? You should be pleased.
Don't take my word for it
https://kyivindependent.com/ireland-set-to-introduce-significant-reduction-in-benefits-for-ukrainian-refugees/
"The Irish government has said that around a third of Ukrainian refugees came to Ireland from "safe countries," with some Irish officials implying that some came to Ireland specifically because the welfare payments are higher"
Genuine question here. This coming from safe countries bit and passing through safe countries enroute. Is this a big deal? Surely you can't expect the nearest safe country to take all the refugees? So there would have to be an element of getting to a safe country first and then moving on? Or am I missing something?
Quote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 02:56:25 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on August 26, 2024, 02:35:23 PMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 02:26:07 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on August 26, 2024, 02:11:06 PMQuote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:08:16 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 11:26:39 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 11:14:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
What a nasty inhumane comment.
Be some influx if all our people and their generations around the world because of famine, war and unemployment were made to go home.
You realize that some of the people you're defending go back "home" on vacation several times a year and some have even sublet their taxpayer funded accommodation
Comparing these welfare tourists to Irish people fleeing the famine is virtue signaling of historic proportions
(FWIW-I was in Ireland in June and saw plenty of UA reg Audis, Porches and BMWs)
Not to mention this: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/tanaiste-defends-states-payment-of-up-to-1m-a-month-for-ukrainian-pets/
Today should be a good reminder for the likes of Whitey why these "welfare tourists" have come to Ireland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_zbuzscNk
And imaging complaining about them returning home occasionally to visit family and friends and for having a nice car. The 'American Dream' can't be that great - it certainly hasn't erased your Irish begrudgery.
So do you think the Irish taxpayer should foot the bill for people who drive €80,000 luxury cars through 7 safe countries for free accomadation, food, education and medical care?
Not to mention free vetinary care and dog/cat day care for their pets?
Simple yes or no will suffice.
Poland is the first safe country in the west. Should they have taken all the millions of Ukrainian refugees themselves based on your criteria?
A simple Yes or No will suffice ;)
Every single Ukrainian I know living in Ireland that initially was on 'welfare' is now working and working hard. Starting businesses. Paying taxes. Aren't you yanks and plastic yanks obsessed with other people paying taxes? You should be pleased.
Don't take my word for it
https://kyivindependent.com/ireland-set-to-introduce-significant-reduction-in-benefits-for-ukrainian-refugees/
"The Irish government has said that around a third of Ukrainian refugees came to Ireland from "safe countries," with some Irish officials implying that some came to Ireland specifically because the welfare payments are higher"
I'm not taking your word for anything.
Those Ukrainians driving those fancy cars that you're envious of, will have had very good lives in Ukraine. Whitey would have us believe they left it all behind to scrounge €237 Euros and live it up in a damp shithole in Ballygbackwards.
They're escaping a war.
As for "safe countries" you think Poland should take them all? Ireland should do f**k all?
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 06:41:05 PMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 02:56:25 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on August 26, 2024, 02:35:23 PMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 02:26:07 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on August 26, 2024, 02:11:06 PMQuote from: whitey on August 19, 2024, 12:08:16 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 18, 2024, 11:26:39 PMQuote from: burdizzo on August 18, 2024, 11:14:10 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:40:54 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 18, 2024, 09:29:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:21:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2024, 09:01:12 PMI do notice you are all still turning a blind eye to the money racket between the Government and the landlords of these Camps concentrated with a lot of people. Huge money involved in treating these people like a commodity.
WELL LADS, WHAT DO YE THINK?
You will notice I have not at resorted to labelling or calling you names. I would expect the same in return. Thank you.
Personally I do not disagree. I see a lot of unsavoury people making a lot of money put of refugees. BUT, I ask this. We have to take our fair share of refugees in the EU. So if not private sector who else would provide the accommodation at short notice? That's the problem, complain about things but unless you have an alternative why bother?
This should be the priority. The coming of people is going to continue. So public sector has to set up proper structures for accommodation that are not Cattle marts. Encourage a spread of people across the country, not horsing them all into a couple of communities.
This won't happen as Government are in a lot of the Private sectors pockets. And sadly Immigrants have become a profitable commodity.
I agree and I'm on record here pages ago saying that im cornered about ghettos and I want to see proper plan for integration of our guests. But man, you claimed that hosting refugees was destroying communities and that's just not true.
Guests?? What a euphemism! What about they be made to go home once the wars are over? How would ye feel about that? THEN we could treat them like guests.
What a nasty inhumane comment.
Be some influx if all our people and their generations around the world because of famine, war and unemployment were made to go home.
You realize that some of the people you're defending go back "home" on vacation several times a year and some have even sublet their taxpayer funded accommodation
Comparing these welfare tourists to Irish people fleeing the famine is virtue signaling of historic proportions
(FWIW-I was in Ireland in June and saw plenty of UA reg Audis, Porches and BMWs)
Not to mention this: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/tanaiste-defends-states-payment-of-up-to-1m-a-month-for-ukrainian-pets/
Today should be a good reminder for the likes of Whitey why these "welfare tourists" have come to Ireland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_zbuzscNk
And imaging complaining about them returning home occasionally to visit family and friends and for having a nice car. The 'American Dream' can't be that great - it certainly hasn't erased your Irish begrudgery.
So do you think the Irish taxpayer should foot the bill for people who drive €80,000 luxury cars through 7 safe countries for free accomadation, food, education and medical care?
Not to mention free vetinary care and dog/cat day care for their pets?
Simple yes or no will suffice.
Poland is the first safe country in the west. Should they have taken all the millions of Ukrainian refugees themselves based on your criteria?
A simple Yes or No will suffice ;)
Every single Ukrainian I know living in Ireland that initially was on 'welfare' is now working and working hard. Starting businesses. Paying taxes. Aren't you yanks and plastic yanks obsessed with other people paying taxes? You should be pleased.
Don't take my word for it
https://kyivindependent.com/ireland-set-to-introduce-significant-reduction-in-benefits-for-ukrainian-refugees/
"The Irish government has said that around a third of Ukrainian refugees came to Ireland from "safe countries," with some Irish officials implying that some came to Ireland specifically because the welfare payments are higher"
Genuine question here. This coming from safe countries bit and passing through safe countries enroute. Is this a big deal? Surely you can't expect the nearest safe country to take all the refugees? So there would have to be an element of getting to a safe country first and then moving on? Or am I missing something?
You're not missing anything. It's just a non-argument the far right crowd use to try to justify their position of not wanting to help refugees.
TrueBlue
The issue with emigration/emigration is that there are elements of push and elements of pull when it comes to people migrating
As a host country you only have control over the element of pull and by offering overly generous benefits you encourage way more people to come than you can accommodate
When the Irish government changed the generosity of entitlements for new arrivals coming from Ukraine the numbers fell off a Cliff
Quote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 07:46:10 PMTrueBlue
The issue with emigration/emigration is that there are elements of push and elements of pull when it comes to people migrating
As a host country you only have control over the element of pull and by offering overly generous benefits you encourage way more people to come than you can accommodate
When the Irish government changed the generosity of entitlements for new arrivals coming from Ukraine the numbers fell off a Cliff
But talk of passing through Safe countries is just muddying the water. An irrelevance, unless I'm mistaken in what I said earlier.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 07:50:33 PMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 07:46:10 PMTrueBlue
The issue with emigration/emigration is that there are elements of push and elements of pull when it comes to people migrating
As a host country you only have control over the element of pull and by offering overly generous benefits you encourage way more people to come than you can accommodate
When the Irish government changed the generosity of entitlements for new arrivals coming from Ukraine the numbers fell off a Cliff
But talk of passing through Safe countries is just muddying the water. An irrelevance, unless I'm mistaken in what I said earlier.
No-you're completely missing the point
If every country in Europe had identical benefits, then this would be a non issue
By having the most generous benefits in all of Europe, Ireland enticed additional people who were already out of harms way and receiving benefits and shelter.
Their decision to come was based on the extra benefits available rather than their safety or their ability to return home once the conflict abated
The issue of people transiting through safe countries was actually brought up by the Ukrainians themselves in that news article. The implication is/was that if you were transiting from an already safe country , you were doing so just to take advantage of a more generous benefits package than you were currently receiving (and as I said, when the benefit package changed the numbers arriving dropped off a Cliff )
Quote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 08:21:45 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 07:50:33 PMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 07:46:10 PMTrueBlue
The issue with emigration/emigration is that there are elements of push and elements of pull when it comes to people migrating
As a host country you only have control over the element of pull and by offering overly generous benefits you encourage way more people to come than you can accommodate
When the Irish government changed the generosity of entitlements for new arrivals coming from Ukraine the numbers fell off a Cliff
But talk of passing through Safe countries is just muddying the water. An irrelevance, unless I'm mistaken in what I said earlier.
No-you're completely missing the point
If every country in Europe had identical benefits then the burden would have been spread more evenly
By having the most generous benefits in all of Europe, Ireland enticed people who were already out of harms way.
Their decision to come was based on the benefits available rather than their safety or their ability to return home once the conflict abated
The issue of people transiting through safe countries was actually brought up by the Ukrainians themselves in that news article. The implication is/was that if you were transiting from an already safe country , you were doing so just to take advantage of a more generous benefits package than you were currently receiving (and as I said, when the benefit package changed the numbers arriving dropped off a Cliff )
I'm not missing anything. I do not expect that the nearest countries pick up all refugees. And I would not expect all refugees to want to stay in those countries. So there is a necessity for refuges to get into a safe country first before moving on. The issue about benefits in Ireland is totally separate. The fact they came from a safe country is irrelevant.
So you do think the surrounding countries should just take all the refugees?
Wasn't it an EU response to the Ukranians, so that they could be dispersed across the 27 Countries* rather than having 4 or 5 million people living in tent cities in Poland?
* not sure if Putin's mate in Hungary taking any.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 08:39:40 PMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 08:21:45 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 07:50:33 PMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 07:46:10 PMTrueBlue
The issue with emigration/emigration is that there are elements of push and elements of pull when it comes to people migrating
As a host country you only have control over the element of pull and by offering overly generous benefits you encourage way more people to come than you can accommodate
When the Irish government changed the generosity of entitlements for new arrivals coming from Ukraine the numbers fell off a Cliff
But talk of passing through Safe countries is just muddying the water. An irrelevance, unless I'm mistaken in what I said earlier.
No-you're completely missing the point
If every country in Europe had identical benefits then the burden would have been spread more evenly
By having the most generous benefits in all of Europe, Ireland enticed people who were already out of harms way.
Their decision to come was based on the benefits available rather than their safety or their ability to return home once the conflict abated
The issue of people transiting through safe countries was actually brought up by the Ukrainians themselves in that news article. The implication is/was that if you were transiting from an already safe country , you were doing so just to take advantage of a more generous benefits package than you were currently receiving (and as I said, when the benefit package changed the numbers arriving dropped off a Cliff )
I'm not missing anything. I do not expect that the nearest countries pick up all refugees. And I would not expect all refugees to want to stay in those countries. So there is a necessity for refuges to get into a safe country first before moving on. The issue about benefits in Ireland is totally separate. The fact they came from a safe country is irrelevant.
So you do think the surrounding countries should just take all the refugees?
Never said or even implied that!
Let's say People are in a safe country and their benefits are about to be cut. They can (1) go home assuming it's safe (2) deal with it (3) move to another country (Ireland) where their benefits will be double or triple what they're currently getting (before cuts).....what do you think they're going to do?
And I don't blame or fault them one bit. I'd do the same myself.
The EU should have ensured uniformity of benefits, but they didn't. Then the virtue signaling Irish leprechauns (looking for a pat on the head) decided to introduce a benefits package without fully thinking it out which led to completely unsustainable inflows
So the article, written by Ukrainians, implied that people moving from already safe countries were simply gaming the system (at the expense of the Irish taxpayer)
I know the reasons. My point is saying there're coming from a safe country is pointless. It doesn't mean anything. The bordering countries can't take them all, so they were always going to move on.
Does anyone have figures for how much each country is giving refugees? Just to see how Ireland compares? Be interested to see.
Fair dues to the Ukrainians. What would you expect? They had a whole system set up for them when the war started post Covid (a fair coincidence that). Anyone if you are blaming Ukrainians you are looking the wrong way. Feck me I'd have done the same.
Free Postage home was one of the biggest perks. I seen a set of four tyres sent from Ireland to Ukraine - for free. You should have seen the madness when this freebee was to end. An Post Depots and depots full up of stuff going to Ukraine. Once again I'd have done the same.
In every walk of life there are legitimate victims and there are chancers. The problem is - you try too hard to weed out the chancers, you'll probably affect helping those in need.
What is the definition of a refugee. 30/40% of persons who left the Urkaine were enlistment age. They def in no rush back to the Ukraine.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 26, 2024, 10:43:01 PMWhat is the definition of a refugee. 30/40% of persons who left the Urkaine were enlistment age. They def in no rush back to the Ukraine.
People are better educated of the horrors of war. They know people get badly injured, psychologically affected or Die.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 09:09:58 PMI know the reasons. My point is saying there're coming from a safe country is pointless. It doesn't mean anything. The bordering countries can't take them all, so they were always going to move on.
Does anyone have figures for how much each country is giving refugees? Just to see how Ireland compares? Be interested to see.
You are 100% correct. From a legal and technical standpoint....it means absolutely nothing to say someone came from a safe country
But from an optics standpoint, it could be an issue for those who are paying for it all
(https://images.cartoonstock.com/lowres/military-refugee-asylum-asylum_seekers-flee-european_union-CS566938_low.jpg)
Quote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 09:09:58 PMI know the reasons. My point is saying there're coming from a safe country is pointless. It doesn't mean anything. The bordering countries can't take them all, so they were always going to move on.
Does anyone have figures for how much each country is giving refugees? Just to see how Ireland compares? Be interested to see.
You are 100% correct. From a legal and technical standpoint....it means absolutely nothing to say someone came from a safe country
But from an optics standpoint, it could be an issue for those who are paying for it all
That was kinda my point. It's used by those who want to cast doubt on the refugees as some sort of stick to beat them with and imply they should have stayed where they were.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 08:27:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 09:09:58 PMI know the reasons. My point is saying there're coming from a safe country is pointless. It doesn't mean anything. The bordering countries can't take them all, so they were always going to move on.
Does anyone have figures for how much each country is giving refugees? Just to see how Ireland compares? Be interested to see.
You are 100% correct. From a legal and technical standpoint....it means absolutely nothing to say someone came from a safe country
But from an optics standpoint, it could be an issue for those who are paying for it all
That was kinda my point. It's used by those who want to cast doubt on the refugees as some sort of stick to beat them with and imply they should have stayed where they were.
That is exactly what was said in the article-the Irish Government was implying that some Ukrainians were abusing the system and the Government were using that as justification for decreasing benefits (and the Ukrainians who wrote the article didn't seem to be pouring cold water on the notion either)
Quote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:06:03 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 08:27:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 09:09:58 PMI know the reasons. My point is saying there're coming from a safe country is pointless. It doesn't mean anything. The bordering countries can't take them all, so they were always going to move on.
Does anyone have figures for how much each country is giving refugees? Just to see how Ireland compares? Be interested to see.
You are 100% correct. From a legal and technical standpoint....it means absolutely nothing to say someone came from a safe country
But from an optics standpoint, it could be an issue for those who are paying for it all
That was kinda my point. It's used by those who want to cast doubt on the refugees as some sort of stick to beat them with and imply they should have stayed where they were.
That is exactly what was said in the article-the Irish Government was implying that some Ukrainians were abusing the system and the Government were using that as justification for decreasing benefits (and the Ukrainians who wrote the article didn't seem to be pouring cold water on the notion either)
The Irish government weren't implying that. Some "unnamed officials" were. They weren't happy to put their name to the piece to back it up.
That said, I'm not against bringing benefits in line with the rest of Europe. Do you have the figures for what Ireland offer in comparison to rest of Europe?
It's hard to compare like for like, some countries only offer unemployment support for a specified period, probably the way it should be. Some like the UK, which I think is in the minority, offer it for forever and a day
This is your type of people whitey and Burdizzo. They protect woman except for the ones they assault.
https://www.independent.ie/life/he-started-saying-ireland-is-full-then-punched-me-in-the-face-on-a-crowded-luas/a77989206.html
Quote from: Itchy on August 27, 2024, 12:28:31 PMThis is your type of people whitey and Burdizzo. They protect woman except for the ones they assault.
https://www.independent.ie/life/he-started-saying-ireland-is-full-then-punched-me-in-the-face-on-a-crowded-luas/a77989206.html
I'm not sure either of them ever encouraged violence, but trying to reason with someone like you is a waste of time.
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 27, 2024, 12:30:33 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 27, 2024, 12:28:31 PMThis is your type of people whitey and Burdizzo. They protect woman except for the ones they assault.
https://www.independent.ie/life/he-started-saying-ireland-is-full-then-punched-me-in-the-face-on-a-crowded-luas/a77989206.html
I'm not sure either of them ever encouraged violence, but trying to reason with someone like you is a waste of time.
Don't waste your time then. Their approach will always lead to violence - read a history book
Here's another one of their heroes in action...
https://x.com/lil_doza/status/1828117510769545402?t=iON_VU5C9sYELMtOD7NywQ&s=19
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 12:15:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:06:03 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 08:27:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 09:09:58 PMI know the reasons. My point is saying there're coming from a safe country is pointless. It doesn't mean anything. The bordering countries can't take them all, so they were always going to move on.
Does anyone have figures for how much each country is giving refugees? Just to see how Ireland compares? Be interested to see.
You are 100% correct. From a legal and technical standpoint....it means absolutely nothing to say someone came from a safe country
But from an optics standpoint, it could be an issue for those who are paying for it all
That was kinda my point. It's used by those who want to cast doubt on the refugees as some sort of stick to beat them with and imply they should have stayed where they were.
That is exactly what was said in the article-the Irish Government was implying that some Ukrainians were abusing the system and the Government were using that as justification for decreasing benefits (and the Ukrainians who wrote the article didn't seem to be pouring cold water on the notion either)
The Irish government weren't implying that. Some "unnamed officials" were. They weren't happy to put their name to the piece to back it up.
That said, I'm not against bringing benefits in line with the rest of Europe. Do you have the figures for what Ireland offer in comparison to rest of Europe?
Lol
You're "not against"
Why wouldn't you be vehemently DEMANDING they are brought in line? (but maybe you're just fine with your taxes paying for dog day for people abusing the system)
So why do you think the numbers arriving from Ukraine fell off a Cliff when they changed the benefits package?
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 27, 2024, 12:24:09 PMIt's hard to compare like for like, some countries only offer unemployment support for a specified period, probably the way it should be. Some like the UK, which I think is in the minority, offer it for forever and a day
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1321509/monthly-support-per-ukrainian-refugee-europe-by-country/
(This is just a snapshot and not fully comprehensive)
Probably wouldn't include the cost of dog day care or taxpayer funded shipping of car engines back to Ukraine through AnPost)
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 26, 2024, 10:43:01 PMWhat is the definition of a refugee. 30/40% of persons who left the Urkaine were enlistment age. They def in no rush back to the Ukraine.
The primary and universal definition of a refugee that applies to States is contained in Article 1(A)(2) of the 1951 Convention, as amended by its 1967 Protocol, defining a refugee as someone who:
"owing to well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it.
In the case of a person who has more than one nationality, the term "the country of his nationality" shall mean each of the countries of which he is a national, and a person shall not be deemed to be lacking the protection of the country of his nationality if, without any valid reason based on well-founded fear, he has not availed himself of the protection of one of the countries of which he is a national."
Some here won't like this ::)
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/immigration-to-ireland-hits-17-year-high-as-number-emigrating-reaches-highest-figure-since-2015/a557885083.html
https://www.anpost.com/Post-Parcels/Sending/Sending-Guide
Parcels
The parcel rate of postage applies to items weighing up to 20kg. Large, boxed items such as electrical goods, components and irregularly-shaped and cylindrically-shaped items such as large posters fall into this category. The following are the maximum dimensions:
Length 1.5 metres
Length + girth 3 metres (where the girth equals 2 x [depth + width])
I wonder what the weight of the average car engine is in Yank Land and would Whitey post me one back. Mr Saffron says Whitey doesnt espouse violence but its these lies and half truths that gets the less bright in our society, who are looking for someone to blame for their shitty life, to turn to violence against the foreigner. This language of hate is what gets fuckwits like on the video above challenging an innocent taxi driver and getting into his face for no other reason than he is black. Mr Saffron, being from the Antrim, should know a little bit about this if he knows his own history.
Quote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:33:24 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 12:15:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:06:03 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 08:27:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 09:09:58 PMI know the reasons. My point is saying there're coming from a safe country is pointless. It doesn't mean anything. The bordering countries can't take them all, so they were always going to move on.
Does anyone have figures for how much each country is giving refugees? Just to see how Ireland compares? Be interested to see.
You are 100% correct. From a legal and technical standpoint....it means absolutely nothing to say someone came from a safe country
But from an optics standpoint, it could be an issue for those who are paying for it all
That was kinda my point. It's used by those who want to cast doubt on the refugees as some sort of stick to beat them with and imply they should have stayed where they were.
That is exactly what was said in the article-the Irish Government was implying that some Ukrainians were abusing the system and the Government were using that as justification for decreasing benefits (and the Ukrainians who wrote the article didn't seem to be pouring cold water on the notion either)
The Irish government weren't implying that. Some "unnamed officials" were. They weren't happy to put their name to the piece to back it up.
That said, I'm not against bringing benefits in line with the rest of Europe. Do you have the figures for what Ireland offer in comparison to rest of Europe?
Lol
You're "not against"
Why wouldn't you be vehemently DEMANDING they are brought in line? (but maybe you're just fine with your taxes paying for dog day for people abusing the system)
So why do you think the numbers arriving from Ukraine fell off a Cliff when they changed the benefits package?
Because I think refugees are put through a hell of a lot through no fault of their own based on where they were brought into this world. And if we are in a position to help then I think we should as much as possible. Ireland is in a good place financially, I think we can do our bit.
Quote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:40:55 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on August 27, 2024, 12:24:09 PMIt's hard to compare like for like, some countries only offer unemployment support for a specified period, probably the way it should be. Some like the UK, which I think is in the minority, offer it for forever and a day
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1321509/monthly-support-per-ukrainian-refugee-europe-by-country/
(This is just a snapshot and not fully comprehensive)
Probably wouldn't include the cost of dog day care or taxpayer funded shipping of car engines back to Ukraine through AnPost)
Is that before they amended it?
Quote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:40:55 PMhttps://www.statista.com/statistics/1321509/monthly-support-per-ukrainian-refugee-europe-by-country/
(This is just a snapshot and not fully comprehensive)
Probably wouldn't include the cost of dog day care or taxpayer funded shipping of car engines back to Ukraine through AnPost)
A fool and his money are soon parted....
Only Germany ahead of us. And we all know they are still apologising for WW1 and WW2. And probably will have to for a few more generations.
Near neighbours the Austrians were not as Generous (or should I say foolish).
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 02:02:32 PMQuote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:33:24 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 12:15:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:06:03 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 08:27:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 09:09:58 PMI know the reasons. My point is saying there're coming from a safe country is pointless. It doesn't mean anything. The bordering countries can't take them all, so they were always going to move on.
Does anyone have figures for how much each country is giving refugees? Just to see how Ireland compares? Be interested to see.
You are 100% correct. From a legal and technical standpoint....it means absolutely nothing to say someone came from a safe country
But from an optics standpoint, it could be an issue for those who are paying for it all
That was kinda my point. It's used by those who want to cast doubt on the refugees as some sort of stick to beat them with and imply they should have stayed where they were.
That is exactly what was said in the article-the Irish Government was implying that some Ukrainians were abusing the system and the Government were using that as justification for decreasing benefits (and the Ukrainians who wrote the article didn't seem to be pouring cold water on the notion either)
The Irish government weren't implying that. Some "unnamed officials" were. They weren't happy to put their name to the piece to back it up.
That said, I'm not against bringing benefits in line with the rest of Europe. Do you have the figures for what Ireland offer in comparison to rest of Europe?
Lol
You're "not against"
Why wouldn't you be vehemently DEMANDING they are brought in line? (but maybe you're just fine with your taxes paying for dog day for people abusing the system)
So why do you think the numbers arriving from Ukraine fell off a Cliff when they changed the benefits package?
Because I think refugees are put through a hell of a lot through no fault of their own based on where they were brought into this world. And if we are in a position to help then I think we should as much as possible. Ireland is in a good place financially, I think we can do our bit.
I think a lot of dogs and cats were also traumatized by the bombing so I would be advocating for taxpayer funded dog and cat psychotherapy and Prozac
I wonder if we could swing emotional support dogs for cats while we are at it
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 27, 2024, 02:18:24 PMQuote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:40:55 PMhttps://www.statista.com/statistics/1321509/monthly-support-per-ukrainian-refugee-europe-by-country/
(This is just a snapshot and not fully comprehensive)
Probably wouldn't include the cost of dog day care or taxpayer funded shipping of car engines back to Ukraine through AnPost)
A fool and his money are soon parted....
Only Germany ahead of us. And we all know they are still apologising for WW1 and WW2. And probably will have to for a few more generations.
Near neighbours the Austrians were not as Generous (or should I say foolish).
Those fees relate to Ukraine, did you know refugees from other countries (the black/muslim ones) get a fraction of that money. I assume you knew that?
I wonder Bunker do you remember back to 2015
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/02/shocking-image-of-drowned-syrian-boy-shows-tragic-plight-of-refugees
This little boy broke the heart of the Irish people, drowned and washed up on the beach. Our FF/FG MEPs voted not to save these people from drowning. There was an outcry from Irish people when they learned we had taken in 10's of refugees only. At this time Germany and others were taking in 100's of thousands. So we are playing catchup and whether you believe it or not its not even an issue for the vast majority of Irish people.
Quote from: Itchy on August 27, 2024, 02:48:15 PMI wonder Bunker do you remember back to 2015
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/02/shocking-image-of-drowned-syrian-boy-shows-tragic-plight-of-refugees
This little boy broke the heart of the Irish people, drowned and washed up on the beach. Our FF/FG MEPs voted not to save these people from drowning. There was an outcry from Irish people when they learned we had taken in 10's of refugees only. At this time Germany and others were taking in 100's of thousands. So we are playing catchup and whether you believe it or not its not even an issue for the vast majority of Irish people.
One of those Syrians stabbed three people to death in Germany at a "festival of diversity" at the weekend. The mood has changed in Germany. The mood has changed all over Europe, and immigration is consistently the most important, or second most important, issue in polls here in Ireland. You can't import large amount of people from a completely alien culture without radically changing your own, and without the problems that causes. The only reason it's actually happening is because there's money to be made out of it by the business and political classes. As for the left - hah! Imagine wanting to undermine wages!? I remember at the time of the Irish Ferries strike about 20 or so years ago, SIPTU tying itself up in knots with phrases like "race to the bottom" over immigrant labour. At least that made sense, but now they wouldn't dare take such a stance, and have consequently lost relevance.
Quote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 02:29:13 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 02:02:32 PMQuote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:33:24 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 12:15:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:06:03 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 08:27:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 09:09:58 PMI know the reasons. My point is saying there're coming from a safe country is pointless. It doesn't mean anything. The bordering countries can't take them all, so they were always going to move on.
Does anyone have figures for how much each country is giving refugees? Just to see how Ireland compares? Be interested to see.
You are 100% correct. From a legal and technical standpoint....it means absolutely nothing to say someone came from a safe country
But from an optics standpoint, it could be an issue for those who are paying for it all
That was kinda my point. It's used by those who want to cast doubt on the refugees as some sort of stick to beat them with and imply they should have stayed where they were.
That is exactly what was said in the article-the Irish Government was implying that some Ukrainians were abusing the system and the Government were using that as justification for decreasing benefits (and the Ukrainians who wrote the article didn't seem to be pouring cold water on the notion either)
The Irish government weren't implying that. Some "unnamed officials" were. They weren't happy to put their name to the piece to back it up.
That said, I'm not against bringing benefits in line with the rest of Europe. Do you have the figures for what Ireland offer in comparison to rest of Europe?
Lol
You're "not against"
Why wouldn't you be vehemently DEMANDING they are brought in line? (but maybe you're just fine with your taxes paying for dog day for people abusing the system)
So why do you think the numbers arriving from Ukraine fell off a Cliff when they changed the benefits package?
Because I think refugees are put through a hell of a lot through no fault of their own based on where they were brought into this world. And if we are in a position to help then I think we should as much as possible. Ireland is in a good place financially, I think we can do our bit.
I think a lot of dogs and cats were also traumatized by the bombing so I would be advocating for taxpayer funded dog and cat psychotherapy and Prozac
I wonder if we could swing emotional support dogs for cats while we are at it
I think we're done.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 03:16:56 PMQuote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 02:29:13 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 02:02:32 PMQuote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:33:24 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 12:15:28 PMQuote from: whitey on August 27, 2024, 12:06:03 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2024, 08:27:46 AMQuote from: whitey on August 26, 2024, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 26, 2024, 09:09:58 PMI know the reasons. My point is saying there're coming from a safe country is pointless. It doesn't mean anything. The bordering countries can't take them all, so they were always going to move on.
Does anyone have figures for how much each country is giving refugees? Just to see how Ireland compares? Be interested to see.
You are 100% correct. From a legal and technical standpoint....it means absolutely nothing to say someone came from a safe country
But from an optics standpoint, it could be an issue for those who are paying for it all
That was kinda my point. It's used by those who want to cast doubt on the refugees as some sort of stick to beat them with and imply they should have stayed where they were.
That is exactly what was said in the article-the Irish Government was implying that some Ukrainians were abusing the system and the Government were using that as justification for decreasing benefits (and the Ukrainians who wrote the article didn't seem to be pouring cold water on the notion either)
The Irish government weren't implying that. Some "unnamed officials" were. They weren't happy to put their name to the piece to back it up.
That said, I'm not against bringing benefits in line with the rest of Europe. Do you have the figures for what Ireland offer in comparison to rest of Europe?
Lol
You're "not against"
Why wouldn't you be vehemently DEMANDING they are brought in line? (but maybe you're just fine with your taxes paying for dog day for people abusing the system)
So why do you think the numbers arriving from Ukraine fell off a Cliff when they changed the benefits package?
Because I think refugees are put through a hell of a lot through no fault of their own based on where they were brought into this world. And if we are in a position to help then I think we should as much as possible. Ireland is in a good place financially, I think we can do our bit.
I think a lot of dogs and cats were also traumatized by the bombing so I would be advocating for taxpayer funded dog and cat psychotherapy and Prozac
I wonder if we could swing emotional support dogs for cats while we are at it
I think we're done.
Its good to see he has dropped his ridiculous assertion that people were sending car engines by An Post but unfortunately he is still going on about other ridiculous lies.
QuoteIreland is at a critical juncture. The question now is whether the Irish people will stand up to the forces of the Great Reset and reclaim their country, or whether they will allow themselves to be replaced, their culture erased, and their nation transformed beyond recognition.
I don't know why but this shite just came up on my twitter feed.
It was some "citizen journalist". That has many translations in my head...
Quote from: Itchy on August 27, 2024, 02:48:15 PMI wonder Bunker do you remember back to 2015
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/02/shocking-image-of-drowned-syrian-boy-shows-tragic-plight-of-refugees
This little boy broke the heart of the Irish people, drowned and washed up on the beach. Our FF/FG MEPs voted not to save these people from drowning. There was an outcry from Irish people when they learned we had taken in 10's of refugees only. At this time Germany and others were taking in 100's of thousands. So we are playing catchup and whether you believe it or not its not even an issue for the vast majority of Irish people.
Of course I do and very tragic. One highlighted boy of many that don't get the same attention and come to the same fate.
Now that is on a different tangent of an argument to what we are discussing with Ukrainians. There is helping someone and there is being taken for a ride.
It's in the instinct of people to take advantage.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2024, 03:28:52 PMQuoteIreland is at a critical juncture. The question now is whether the Irish people will stand up to the forces of the Great Reset and reclaim their country, or whether they will allow themselves to be replaced, their culture erased, and their nation transformed beyond recognition.
I don't know why but this shite just came up on my twitter feed.
It was some "citizen journalist". That has many translations in my head...
I'd say the p***k who spouted that hasn't dá focal Gaeilge.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2024, 04:17:06 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2024, 03:28:52 PMQuoteIreland is at a critical juncture. The question now is whether the Irish people will stand up to the forces of the Great Reset and reclaim their country, or whether they will allow themselves to be replaced, their culture erased, and their nation transformed beyond recognition.
I don't know why but this shite just came up on my twitter feed.
It was some "citizen journalist". That has many translations in my head...
I'd say the p***k who spouted that hasn't dá focal Gaeilge.
Whereas I'm sure all our lovely immigrants will be fluent in the auld gaeilge!
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2024, 04:17:06 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2024, 03:28:52 PMQuoteIreland is at a critical juncture. The question now is whether the Irish people will stand up to the forces of the Great Reset and reclaim their country, or whether they will allow themselves to be replaced, their culture erased, and their nation transformed beyond recognition.
I don't know why but this shite just came up on my twitter feed.
It was some "citizen journalist". That has many translations in my head...
I'd say the p***k who spouted that hasn't dá focal Gaeilge.
And what has speaking Irish got to do with anything?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 27, 2024, 08:02:13 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2024, 04:17:06 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2024, 03:28:52 PMQuoteIreland is at a critical juncture. The question now is whether the Irish people will stand up to the forces of the Great Reset and reclaim their country, or whether they will allow themselves to be replaced, their culture erased, and their nation transformed beyond recognition.
I don't know why but this shite just came up on my twitter feed.
It was some "citizen journalist". That has many translations in my head...
I'd say the p***k who spouted that hasn't dá focal Gaeilge.
And what has speaking Irish got to do with anything?
Probably the bit about the culture being erased
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 27, 2024, 08:44:45 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 27, 2024, 08:02:13 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2024, 04:17:06 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2024, 03:28:52 PMQuoteIreland is at a critical juncture. The question now is whether the Irish people will stand up to the forces of the Great Reset and reclaim their country, or whether they will allow themselves to be replaced, their culture erased, and their nation transformed beyond recognition.
I don't know why but this shite just came up on my twitter feed.
It was some "citizen journalist". That has many translations in my head...
I'd say the p***k who spouted that hasn't dá focal Gaeilge.
And what has speaking Irish got to do with anything?
Probably the bit about the culture being erased
I wonder what does Burdy and his "super Irish patriots" who can't speak Irish think is "Irish cuillture"
Quote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 12:26:43 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 27, 2024, 08:44:45 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 27, 2024, 08:02:13 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2024, 04:17:06 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2024, 03:28:52 PMQuoteIreland is at a critical juncture. The question now is whether the Irish people will stand up to the forces of the Great Reset and reclaim their country, or whether they will allow themselves to be replaced, their culture erased, and their nation transformed beyond recognition.
I don't know why but this shite just came up on my twitter feed.
It was some "citizen journalist". That has many translations in my head...
I'd say the p***k who spouted that hasn't dá focal Gaeilge.
And what has speaking Irish got to do with anything?
Probably the bit about the culture being erased
I wonder what does Burdy and his "super Irish patriots" who can't speak Irish think is "Irish cuillture"
As I say, it's not as though the lovely immigrants are going to be gaeilgeoirí, either, is it?
They'll fit right in then..
Buzz, do you think muslims will change and develop from where they are now to being more open and less hung up on religion like western society has?
Been huge drops across these Muslim states in following their religion. That will continue to drop with more and more of them moving into Europe and beyond
Another "hero protecting Irish culture"......
No doubt a few here will be proud of it.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-61-attacked-african-children-and-told-dad-to-get-back-in-your-boat-court-told/a1955942928.html
I can only conclude we are living in a simulation
https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1f31kfo/justin_barretts_new_political_party_i_wonder_what/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1f31kfo/justin_barretts_new_political_party_i_wonder_what/)
Quote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 12:36:59 PMAnother "hero protecting Irish culture"......
No doubt a few here will be proud of it.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-61-attacked-african-children-and-told-dad-to-get-back-in-your-boat-court-told/a1955942928.html
"A crowd had gathered to shout at the injured party".. No, not help them, that would be the humane thing to do, what the fcuk is wrong with people?
If you're taught to hate from the cradle....
Quote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 01:32:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Then there are those that make ridiculous inflamatory statements (check your mirror) that inspire others to hate.
Here is a nice story from Borrisokane where refugee families have been well integrated but government is trying to move them somewhere else and the locals arent having it. Wouldnt happen in Bunkers community no doubt.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tipperary-locals-rally-to-support-refugees-forced-to-relocate-after-five-years-where-will-they-go/a647739774.html
Quote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 01:36:56 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 01:32:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Then there are those that make ridiculous inflamatory statements (check your mirror) that inspire others to hate.
Here is a nice story from Borrisokane where refugee families have been well integrated but government is trying to move them somewhere else and the locals arent having it. Wouldnt happen in Bunkers community no doubt.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tipperary-locals-rally-to-support-refugees-forced-to-relocate-after-five-years-where-will-they-go/a647739774.html
Now this is an example of where proper integration takes place and the government step in to appease their masters.
If you read any of my previous posts - you'd see that I am all for integration and against the way Immigrants/Refugees are treated like cattle and herded into profit making camps in large numbers.
The media and their narrative have trained you to look at people like myself as the enemy. The reality is we are the enemy of the profit makers.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 02:17:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 01:36:56 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 01:32:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Then there are those that make ridiculous inflamatory statements (check your mirror) that inspire others to hate.
Here is a nice story from Borrisokane where refugee families have been well integrated but government is trying to move them somewhere else and the locals arent having it. Wouldnt happen in Bunkers community no doubt.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tipperary-locals-rally-to-support-refugees-forced-to-relocate-after-five-years-where-will-they-go/a647739774.html
Now this is an example of where proper integration takes place and the government step in to appease their masters.
If you read any of my previous posts - you'd see that I am all for integration and against the way Immigrants/Refugees are treated like cattle and herded into profit making camps in large numbers.
The media and their narrative have trained you to look at people like myself as the enemy. The reality is we are the enemy of the profit makers.
You can pretend all you want, we've seen your mask slip and its clear you don't give 2 damns about these people and you see them as drain on you and your community who you said they are destroying but never actually gave any details on that, instead you ran away and said that if you did explain it we would just twist your words. So sorry, I don't believe you have the interests of the refugees at heart at all.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 01:32:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Calling out those calling out racists / fascists isn't overly cool.. Huge difference, no?
Quote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 02:37:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 02:17:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 01:36:56 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 01:32:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Then there are those that make ridiculous inflamatory statements (check your mirror) that inspire others to hate.
Here is a nice story from Borrisokane where refugee families have been well integrated but government is trying to move them somewhere else and the locals arent having it. Wouldnt happen in Bunkers community no doubt.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tipperary-locals-rally-to-support-refugees-forced-to-relocate-after-five-years-where-will-they-go/a647739774.html
Now this is an example of where proper integration takes place and the government step in to appease their masters.
If you read any of my previous posts - you'd see that I am all for integration and against the way Immigrants/Refugees are treated like cattle and herded into profit making camps in large numbers.
The media and their narrative have trained you to look at people like myself as the enemy. The reality is we are the enemy of the profit makers.
You can pretend all you want, we've seen your mask slip and its clear you don't give 2 damns about these people and you see them as drain on you and your community who you said they are destroying but never actually gave any details on that, instead you ran away and said that if you did explain it we would just twist your words. So sorry, I don't believe you have the interests of the refugees at heart at all.
I suppose me saying what i said doesn't suit your ideals of someone concerned with immigration. You'd rather for me to be more extreme. There can't be middle ground. You need to stand back and look at the whole picture. The whole Far Right stuff is just cloaks and Mirrors.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 28, 2024, 03:05:38 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 01:32:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Calling out those calling out racists / fascists isn't overly cool.. Huge difference, no?
No harm in calling out Extremists. But you always have to be careful of becoming to overcome with Hatred. It's a very negative emotion that can only lead one way.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 03:47:04 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 02:37:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 02:17:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 01:36:56 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 01:32:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Then there are those that make ridiculous inflamatory statements (check your mirror) that inspire others to hate.
Here is a nice story from Borrisokane where refugee families have been well integrated but government is trying to move them somewhere else and the locals arent having it. Wouldnt happen in Bunkers community no doubt.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tipperary-locals-rally-to-support-refugees-forced-to-relocate-after-five-years-where-will-they-go/a647739774.html
Now this is an example of where proper integration takes place and the government step in to appease their masters.
If you read any of my previous posts - you'd see that I am all for integration and against the way Immigrants/Refugees are treated like cattle and herded into profit making camps in large numbers.
The media and their narrative have trained you to look at people like myself as the enemy. The reality is we are the enemy of the profit makers.
You can pretend all you want, we've seen your mask slip and its clear you don't give 2 damns about these people and you see them as drain on you and your community who you said they are destroying but never actually gave any details on that, instead you ran away and said that if you did explain it we would just twist your words. So sorry, I don't believe you have the interests of the refugees at heart at all.
I suppose me saying what i said doesn't suit your ideals of someone concerned with immigration. You'd rather for me to be more extreme. There can't be middle ground. You need to stand back and look at the whole picture. The whole Far Right stuff is just cloaks and Mirrors.
So those guys attacking a taxi driver, abusing a woman helping to feed refugees in tents. Thats cloak and mirrors is it? You are full of shit. You are just masquerading as a concerned citizen. You are closer to those racists than you are to any normal thinking Irish person that I know.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 03:52:29 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 28, 2024, 03:05:38 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 01:32:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Calling out those calling out racists / fascists isn't overly cool.. Huge difference, no?
No harm in calling out Extremists. But you always have to be careful of becoming to overcome with Hatred. It's a very negative emotion that can only lead one way.
Open borders/ come one, come all/ limitless immigration is an extremist position. Sadly, the extremists are winning, and we've another year of massive immigration - the highest in 17 years, they say. No wonder people are sick of the scam - except those profiteering from it, of course.
Quote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 04:32:12 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 03:47:04 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 02:37:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 02:17:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 01:36:56 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 01:32:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Then there are those that make ridiculous inflamatory statements (check your mirror) that inspire others to hate.
Here is a nice story from Borrisokane where refugee families have been well integrated but government is trying to move them somewhere else and the locals arent having it. Wouldnt happen in Bunkers community no doubt.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tipperary-locals-rally-to-support-refugees-forced-to-relocate-after-five-years-where-will-they-go/a647739774.html
Now this is an example of where proper integration takes place and the government step in to appease their masters.
If you read any of my previous posts - you'd see that I am all for integration and against the way Immigrants/Refugees are treated like cattle and herded into profit making camps in large numbers.
The media and their narrative have trained you to look at people like myself as the enemy. The reality is we are the enemy of the profit makers.
You can pretend all you want, we've seen your mask slip and its clear you don't give 2 damns about these people and you see them as drain on you and your community who you said they are destroying but never actually gave any details on that, instead you ran away and said that if you did explain it we would just twist your words. So sorry, I don't believe you have the interests of the refugees at heart at all.
I suppose me saying what i said doesn't suit your ideals of someone concerned with immigration. You'd rather for me to be more extreme. There can't be middle ground. You need to stand back and look at the whole picture. The whole Far Right stuff is just cloaks and Mirrors.
So those guys attacking a taxi driver, abusing a woman helping to feed refugees in tents. Thats cloak and mirrors is it? You are full of shit. You are just masquerading as a concerned citizen. You are closer to those racists than you are to any normal thinking Irish person that I know.
I have no time for any of those mentioned above. The abuse of the woman feeding refugees was cringe. People like that (the Bully) are no help to the current situation and would not represent any of my views. Being concerned about anything involving people coming into a country in vast numbers will always be labeled as Racist. It's a lazy cheap dig and an easy pigeon hole to be slotted into.
The New Ireland
Get used to it
16 people appear in court charged in connection with public order incidents in Cork city
https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-41463631.html
Thirteen men and three women, ranging in age from 20 to 27, have appeared in court charged in connection with serious public order incidents in Cork city centre last night.
The young people appeared before Cork District Court today at a vacation sitting of the court.
Judge John King was told the alleged offences occurred yesterday evening at Oliver Plunkett Street, Daunt Square, Patrick Street, Cornmarket Street and Grand Parade.
No exact details were given as to the nature of the alleged incidents as evidence of arrest, charge and caution for all sixteen was given by certificate.
Sgt Gearoid Davis told Judge John King that further directions are awaited from the DPP in relation to all of the defendants.
Godson Ikebundu, aged 22, of Bruach Na Sionna, Castleconnell, Co Limerick, was charged with two public order offences in Cork city centre yesterday evening. He was also charged with a Section 2 assault.
Martin Ekhosuehi, also aged 22, of Willow Gardens, Brooklodge, Glanmire, Cork faces three public order charges linked to alleged incidents in the Grand Parade in Cork last night.
Matthew Ekhosuehi, aged 23, of the same address is charged with three public order offences in relation to his alleged involvement in incidents on Cornmarket St in Cork yesterday evening.
Marvin Ekhosuehi, aged 20, again of the same address, was charged with two public order offences arising out of his alleged involvement in incidents on Oliver Plunkett St last night.
Emmanuela Anabo, aged 25, of Alden, Shamrock Lawn, Douglas, Cork is charged with using threatening or abusive language, insulting behaviour, and failure to comply with garda directions. He also faces one charge under Section 3 of the Misuse of Drugs Act charge.
Maureen Aigbera, aged 20, of Hazelwood, Riverstown, Cork, was charged with three offences under the public order act arising out of alleged offences on Patrick St. She was also charged with one offence under the Misuse of Drugs Act.
Checkwuebka Ian Akaboga, aged 22, of Inish Fall, Bandon, Co Cork, was charged with three public order offences on Oliver Plunkett St in Cork last night.
Kanyisola Akintope, aged 23, of Elm Vale, Wilton, Cork, was charged with two public order offences on Prince's Street in the city last night.
Dylan Mdangoh Nchantea, aged 27, of Larchfield, Bridgemount, Carrigaline, Co Cork was charged with three public order offences on Oliver Plunkett St last night.
Malcolm Oshe, aged 22, of Brooklodge Drive, Glanmire, Co Cork, was charged with three public order offences, including obstruction, using threatening or abusive language, and failure to comply with a garda, on Daunt Square in Cork city yesterday evening.
Melanie Oshe, aged 20, of the same address, faces two public order charges arising out of alleged incidents on Oliver Plunkett Street last night.
Farid Murphy Lahadjo, aged 23, of Oakfield View, Glanmire, Co Cork, was charged with three public order offences on Oliver Plunkett St last night.
Djomiou Lahadjo, aged 21, of the same address, was also charged with three public order offences at the same location.
Emmanuella Itsede, aged 22, of Lios Rua, Cahermoneen, Tralee, Co Kerry, was charged with two public order offences on Prince's St in Cork last night.
Kamji Gotwen, aged 20, of Apartment 27, Fresh Student Living, Brickfield Lane in Dublin 8, was charged with three public order offences on Prince's St yesterday evening.
Chimdi Oji, aged 23, of Grangewood Court, Grange, Cork is charged with three public order offences in Cork city centre yesterday evening.
Judge King was told that the majority of the defendants worked with areas of employment including supermarkets, a sports shop and in trades. One of the defendants has just graduated from college whilst another is due to start a university course in Belfast.
Free legal aid was granted to the majority of the defendants as their income fell under the threshold. One person has to enter a statement of means to the court to ensure he is eligible for free legal aid.
Sgt Davis told the court that there was no objection to bail in the case. However, all of the defendants have to stay out of Cork city centre save for medical or legal appointments.
One of the defendants works in the city centre. He has been ordered to only be in the city centre during his rostered hours and to go straight home after work.
All sixteen were remanded on bail to appear before the court again on October 8 next.
There were never any young thug people causing disturbances and public order offences before this outbreak of despicable behaviour ::)
Quote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 05:50:58 PMThere were never any young thug people causing disturbances and public order offences before this outbreak of despicable behaviour ::)
Blah blah. More meaningless drivel. Just look at the crime stats in London: one particular 13% of the population is responsible for 63% of of the gun crime, and 61% of knife murders.
Quote from: burdizzo on August 28, 2024, 05:58:47 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 05:50:58 PMThere were never any young thug people causing disturbances and public order offences before this outbreak of despicable behaviour ::)
Blah blah. More meaningless drivel. Just look at the crime stats in London: one particular 13% of the population is responsible for 63% of of the gun crime, and 61% of knife murders.
You are one disgusting individual.. What a way to spend your time
13% of the population? Almost certain thats the American %.
Anyway if Britain hadn't invaded, colonized and pillaged that particular section of the populations homeland for hundreds of years they maybe wouldn't have had to leave it.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 05:01:48 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 04:32:12 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 03:47:04 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 02:37:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 02:17:35 PMQuote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 01:36:56 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2024, 01:32:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 01:08:33 PMIf you're taught to hate from the cradle....
There are those who hate and there are those who love to hate those who hate.
Then there are those that make ridiculous inflamatory statements (check your mirror) that inspire others to hate.
Here is a nice story from Borrisokane where refugee families have been well integrated but government is trying to move them somewhere else and the locals arent having it. Wouldnt happen in Bunkers community no doubt.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tipperary-locals-rally-to-support-refugees-forced-to-relocate-after-five-years-where-will-they-go/a647739774.html
Now this is an example of where proper integration takes place and the government step in to appease their masters.
If you read any of my previous posts - you'd see that I am all for integration and against the way Immigrants/Refugees are treated like cattle and herded into profit making camps in large numbers.
The media and their narrative have trained you to look at people like myself as the enemy. The reality is we are the enemy of the profit makers.
You can pretend all you want, we've seen your mask slip and its clear you don't give 2 damns about these people and you see them as drain on you and your community who you said they are destroying but never actually gave any details on that, instead you ran away and said that if you did explain it we would just twist your words. So sorry, I don't believe you have the interests of the refugees at heart at all.
I suppose me saying what i said doesn't suit your ideals of someone concerned with immigration. You'd rather for me to be more extreme. There can't be middle ground. You need to stand back and look at the whole picture. The whole Far Right stuff is just cloaks and Mirrors.
So those guys attacking a taxi driver, abusing a woman helping to feed refugees in tents. Thats cloak and mirrors is it? You are full of shit. You are just masquerading as a concerned citizen. You are closer to those racists than you are to any normal thinking Irish person that I know.
I have no time for any of those mentioned above. The abuse of the woman feeding refugees was cringe. People like that (the Bully) are no help to the current situation and would not represent any of my views. Being concerned about anything involving people coming into a country in vast numbers will always be labeled as Racist. It's a lazy cheap dig and an easy pigeon hole to be slotted into.
You said the far right was smoke and mirrors, they had a riot in Dublin city thet are putting scumbags up for election, they are attacking people. It's not smoke and mirrors it's real.
I see their East Belfast version attacked a Christian Church last night because there are some foreigners (black skinned I'd hazard a guess) in the Congregation.
I think east Belfast and the village area has almost nightly racist attacks now :(
Quote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 06:39:32 PMYou said the far right was smoke and mirrors, they had a riot in Dublin city thet are putting scumbags up for election, they are attacking people. It's not smoke and mirrors it's real.
I'm saying the labelling Far Right for this that and the other. Creates smoke and Mirrors to cover up what is really going on in the background. Taking attention away from the real issues. It makes it easier for bad Government decisions.
That
Justin Barrett stunt being one of them. He's a much a threat as Mickey Mouse.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 28, 2024, 06:10:11 PM13% of the population? Almost certain thats the American %.
Anyway if Britain hadn't invaded, colonized and pillaged that particular section of the populations homeland for hundreds of years they maybe wouldn't have had to leave it.
So, if your great grandfather stole off the ones down the road, their children should be allowed to rape your daughter? Great logic.
Is it a sign of far sinn fein and the ira have fallen that masked nazis in combat gear are openly displaying themselves in public without any fear of any republican groups
Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 28, 2024, 10:39:07 PMIs it a sign of far sinn fein and the ira have fallen that masked nazis in combat gear are openly displaying themselves in public without any fear of any republican groups
The war is over lad. It's the police they should be afraid off.
Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 28, 2024, 10:39:07 PMIs it a sign of far sinn fein and the ira have fallen that masked nazis in combat gear are openly displaying themselves in public without any fear of any republican groups
The Masked Nazi's in combat gear would be so many levels below Sinn Fein or the IRA. Acknowledging them would be bad publicity.
Quote from: Itchy on August 28, 2024, 10:42:38 PMQuote from: EmeraldOpal on August 28, 2024, 10:39:07 PMIs it a sign of far sinn fein and the ira have fallen that masked nazis in combat gear are openly displaying themselves in public without any fear of any republican groups
The war is over lad. It's the police they should be afraid off.
Are we talking in the south here? Sure that wouldn't have been a thing would it? I thought they'd only have policed north?
EO seems to live in a world of his own.
It's just a regeneration of Eire90 or whatever his name was.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 29, 2024, 12:35:11 PMIt's just a regeneration of Eire90 or whatever his name was.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2024, 10:21:29 AMEO seems to live in a world of his own.
Absolutely lol
Don't know whether to laugh or cry
Ár gCeannaire no less
https://clanneireann.ie/
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2024, 08:43:37 PMDon't know whether to laugh or cry
Ár gCeannaire no less
https://clanneireann.ie/
Nothing more than a distraction.
Anyone see the post doing the rounds on Twitter about the schoolbook featuring Family A (the Irish family) and Family B (the Diverse family)?
Flat out madness
Whoever signed off on that book making it into the curriculum should be fired immediately
Quote from: whitey on August 31, 2024, 10:12:57 PMAnyone see the post doing the rounds on Twitter about the schoolbook featuring Family A (the Irish family) and Family B (the Diverse family)?
Flat out madness
Whoever signed off on that book making it into the curriculum should be fired immediately
If it's genuine and it looks to be, it's an absolute disgrace.
Anyone involved in that appearing in a child's textbook should get the road.
Haven't seen it, has anyone a link?
Quote from: whitey on August 31, 2024, 10:12:57 PMAnyone see the post doing the rounds on Twitter about the schoolbook featuring Family A (the Irish family) and Family B (the Diverse family)?
Flat out madness
Whoever signed off on that book making it into the curriculum should be fired immediately
What exactly is wrong with it
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OK. That's quite something
In fairness that is pretty bad. It would be hard for anybody with a bit of common sense to defend that.
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There is an Animal Farm theme to all of this.
Why do they want Irish kids to self loathe?
This is actually quite disturbing.
Quote from: clarshack on September 01, 2024, 04:47:02 PMWhy do they want Irish kids to self loathe?
This is actually quite disturbing.
I seen the yanks post and thought here we go again but those are not good
That is hilarious but in a very bad way.
It's gone all very quiet in here.........
Whoever signed off on approving that book should be fired....tomorrow !!
Maybe the "far right" aren't as paranoid as some people make them out to be when it comes to the destruction of Irish culture
I haven't see mention of this on either RTE or the Irish Independent / Times
Shows that Twitter absolutely has a role to play in informing the public
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 01, 2024, 11:38:29 PMIt's gone all very quiet in here.........
Do you think a bigoted school textbook somehow validates Irish bigotry towards refugees and immigrants?
Quote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 01:34:50 AMWhoever signed off on approving that book should be fired....tomorrow !!
Maybe the "far right" aren't as paranoid as some people make them out to be when it comes to the destruction of Irish culture
I haven't see mention of this on either RTE or the Irish Independent / Times
Shows that Twitter absolutely has a role to play in informing the public
The destruction of Irish culture! Says the yank, who's ditched Ireland
Quote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 01:34:50 AMWhoever signed off on approving that book should be fired....tomorrow !!
Maybe the "far right" aren't as paranoid as some people make them out to be when it comes to the destruction of Irish culture
I haven't see mention of this on either RTE or the Irish Independent / Times
Shows that Twitter absolutely has a role to play in informing the public
there is no destruction of Irish culture.
Quote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 07:38:51 AMQuote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 01:34:50 AMWhoever signed off on approving that book should be fired....tomorrow !!
Maybe the "far right" aren't as paranoid as some people make them out to be when it comes to the destruction of Irish culture
I haven't see mention of this on either RTE or the Irish Independent / Times
Shows that Twitter absolutely has a role to play in informing the public
there is no destruction of Irish culture.
Certainly a denigration of it.
Must say, even I am shocked by this. Is this textbook widely used? And where?
Quote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 08:06:46 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 07:38:51 AMQuote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 01:34:50 AMWhoever signed off on approving that book should be fired....tomorrow !!
Maybe the "far right" aren't as paranoid as some people make them out to be when it comes to the destruction of Irish culture
I haven't see mention of this on either RTE or the Irish Independent / Times
Shows that Twitter absolutely has a role to play in informing the public
there is no destruction of Irish culture.
Certainly a denigration of it.
Must say, even I am shocked by this. Is this textbook widely used? And where?
And what would that denigration be?
Clearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 01, 2024, 08:39:57 AMHaven't seen it, has anyone a link?
Or a photo of a front cover even?
Quote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
I'm confused on this, as my identity is still the same, has yours changed? Are you doing less or being stopped by someone from being Irish?
What is that book and where is it used. I have kids in school, both primary and secondary, and I have never seen it or heard of it before.
Quote from: Itchy on September 02, 2024, 10:13:19 AMWhat is that book and where is it used. I have kids in school, both primary and secondary, and I have never seen it or heard of it before.
I see it's from the HSE.ie so something for the 26 counties.
Whoever come up with that nonsense and for those who allowed it to go to print and into schools really needs to have a good hard look at themselves.
Utter pish to be feeding kids.
I think they are the SPHE health and well being books (Google search)
Has anyone ever seen how the Irish are portrayed in American Movies?
This is 100% from the "open borders" playbook
Not only is Irelands native culture mocked and denigrated, it is painted as narrow minded, unsophisticated and downright dangerous
I find it quite ironic but not surprising, that posters on here whose families were actually treated as second class citizens (and in some cases murdered) for being "Irish/Catholic" would be fine with this
But then of course without their virtue signaling, they wouldn't be able to wallow in their self anointed moral superiority
The danger with this textbook and why it is so potentially destructive to a child's self esteem is that children will read that paragraph and match aspects of it to their own family and feel ashamed. It is undermining the bedrock of the child's sense of safety and security (their family).
Quote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 10:41:26 AMThis is 100% from the "open borders" playbook
Not only is Irelands native culture mocked and denigrated, it is painted as narrow minded, unsophisticated and downright dangerous
I find it quite ironic but not surprising, that posters on here whose families were actually treated as second class citizens (and in some cases murdered) for being "Irish/Catholic" would be fine with this
But then of course without their virtue signaling, they wouldn't be able to wallow in their self anointed moral superiority
The state of this post.. Do you have the Nazi uniform at home?
Quote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
Quote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 10:41:26 AMThis is 100% from the "open borders" playbook
Not only is Irelands native culture mocked and denigrated, it is painted as narrow minded, unsophisticated and downright dangerous
I find it quite ironic but not surprising, that posters on here whose families were actually treated as second class citizens (and in some cases murdered) for being "Irish/Catholic" would be fine with this
But then of course without their virtue signaling, they wouldn't be able to wallow in their self anointed moral superiority
you post some nonsense but this is right up there. By the way, who is fine with it? I have yet to see anyone say they are
Quote from: johnnycool on September 02, 2024, 10:18:51 AMQuote from: Itchy on September 02, 2024, 10:13:19 AMWhat is that book and where is it used. I have kids in school, both primary and secondary, and I have never seen it or heard of it before.
I see it's from the HSE.ie so something for the 26 counties.
As far as I know Itchy is from and lives in the 26.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 02, 2024, 11:11:07 AMQuote from: johnnycool on September 02, 2024, 10:18:51 AMQuote from: Itchy on September 02, 2024, 10:13:19 AMWhat is that book and where is it used. I have kids in school, both primary and secondary, and I have never seen it or heard of it before.
I see it's from the HSE.ie so something for the 26 counties.
As far as I know Itchy is from and lives in the 26.
A Cavan man
Quote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:11:34 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 02, 2024, 11:11:07 AMQuote from: johnnycool on September 02, 2024, 10:18:51 AMQuote from: Itchy on September 02, 2024, 10:13:19 AMWhat is that book and where is it used. I have kids in school, both primary and secondary, and I have never seen it or heard of it before.
I see it's from the HSE.ie so something for the 26 counties.
As far as I know Itchy is from and lives in the 26.
A Cavan man
Correct. I must do a bit of looking into it now that school is back as SPHE is a secondary school subject so one of mine should have this book at home. On the face of it you would have to say that is ridiculous but it wouldnt be the first time I have seen something in one of my kids books that is ridiculous.
HOWEVER, some stupid shit in a school book does not prove the "great replacement" is real nor justify the racist bile from Whitey and Burdizzo on here.
Quote from: Itchy on September 02, 2024, 11:28:13 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:11:34 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 02, 2024, 11:11:07 AMQuote from: johnnycool on September 02, 2024, 10:18:51 AMQuote from: Itchy on September 02, 2024, 10:13:19 AMWhat is that book and where is it used. I have kids in school, both primary and secondary, and I have never seen it or heard of it before.
I see it's from the HSE.ie so something for the 26 counties.
As far as I know Itchy is from and lives in the 26.
A Cavan man
Correct. I must do a bit of looking into it now that school is back as SPHE is a secondary school subject so one of mine should have this book at home. On the face of it you would have to say that is ridiculous but it wouldnt be the first time I have seen something in one of my kids books that is ridiculous.
HOWEVER, some stupid shit in a school book does not prove the "great replacement" is real nor justify the racist bile from Whitey and Burdizzo on here.
I second that. I often wonder why it is allowed on this forum.
I "3rd" it!
That family A is like something only a Dublin 4 Rugger type would come out with!
https://x.com/Care2much18/status/1830385413824954677 (https://x.com/Care2much18/status/1830385413824954677)
Quote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 02, 2024, 12:12:06 PMhttps://x.com/Care2much18/status/1830385413824954677 (https://x.com/Care2much18/status/1830385413824954677)
State of him... id say he'd know a fair bit about invading people's homelands. "It passes the sniff test".. jees! :-\
Quote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
In fairness family A lived beside me while I was growing up 20/30 years ago. We mocked the sh1te out of them at that point, and rightly so, and was nothing to do with a great replacement.
Quote from: thebigfella on September 02, 2024, 12:39:34 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
In fairness family A lived beside me while I was growing up 20/30 years ago. We mocked the sh1te out of them at that point, and rightly so, and was nothing to do with a great replacement.
They had no relatives living abroad and would only watch movies made in Ireland?
Quote from: Father Murphy on September 02, 2024, 12:46:05 PMQuote from: thebigfella on September 02, 2024, 12:39:34 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
In fairness family A lived beside me while I was growing up 20/30 years ago. We mocked the sh1te out of them at that point, and rightly so, and was nothing to do with a great replacement.
They had no relatives living abroad and would only watch movies made in Ireland?
And eat bacon and cabbage every day
Quote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
But do you feel less Irish? I'm wondering how this book affects you, and how, because of it, you feel you are being replaced at some point?
There has been loads of books that have come home with the kids over the years, granted this one is up there, but none of them makes me feel that Ireland is lost.
For someone fond of the hurling, you're pretty soft
Quote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
That's two different things. I think the book is wrong and should not be used. My reply was not about that but the wider idea of Irishness being eroded which people are trying to say
2 simple questions
Should the book be removed from the curriculum?
Should the person who approved it be fired?
Quote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 12:53:34 PM2 simple questions
Should the book be removed from the curriculum?
Should the person who approved it be fired?
yes
yes
Will that make you more Irish?
Quote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 12:49:01 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on September 02, 2024, 12:46:05 PMQuote from: thebigfella on September 02, 2024, 12:39:34 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
In fairness family A lived beside me while I was growing up 20/30 years ago. We mocked the sh1te out of them at that point, and rightly so, and was nothing to do with a great replacement.
They had no relatives living abroad and would only watch movies made in Ireland?
And eat bacon and cabbage every day
Jammy bastards!
Quote from: Itchy on September 02, 2024, 11:28:13 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:11:34 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 02, 2024, 11:11:07 AMQuote from: johnnycool on September 02, 2024, 10:18:51 AMQuote from: Itchy on September 02, 2024, 10:13:19 AMWhat is that book and where is it used. I have kids in school, both primary and secondary, and I have never seen it or heard of it before.
I see it's from the HSE.ie so something for the 26 counties.
As far as I know Itchy is from and lives in the 26.
A Cavan man
Correct. I must do a bit of looking into it now that school is back as SPHE is a secondary school subject so one of mine should have this book at home. On the face of it you would have to say that is ridiculous but it wouldnt be the first time I have seen something in one of my kids books that is ridiculous.
HOWEVER, some stupid shit in a school book does not prove the "great replacement" is real nor justify the racist bile from Whitey and Burdizzo on here.
The UN talks about 'replacement migration', so it is a 'thing'.
Quote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 12:50:04 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
That's two different things. I think the book is wrong and should not be used. My reply was not about that but the wider idea of Irishness being eroded which people are trying to say
The words I used were 'denigrated' and 'disparaged'. I could also add 'mocked' and 'demeaned'. I don't feel my own sense of Irish-ness is eroded. However, it does seem to aim to influence impressionable school-children to identify as 'hip' internationalists and opposed to 'backward' Irish. That's the message, and that's the problem. Who promotes and pays for this stuff?
Quote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 01:10:19 PMQuote from: Itchy on September 02, 2024, 11:28:13 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:11:34 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 02, 2024, 11:11:07 AMQuote from: johnnycool on September 02, 2024, 10:18:51 AMQuote from: Itchy on September 02, 2024, 10:13:19 AMWhat is that book and where is it used. I have kids in school, both primary and secondary, and I have never seen it or heard of it before.
I see it's from the HSE.ie so something for the 26 counties.
As far as I know Itchy is from and lives in the 26.
A Cavan man
Correct. I must do a bit of looking into it now that school is back as SPHE is a secondary school subject so one of mine should have this book at home. On the face of it you would have to say that is ridiculous but it wouldnt be the first time I have seen something in one of my kids books that is ridiculous.
HOWEVER, some stupid shit in a school book does not prove the "great replacement" is real nor justify the racist bile from Whitey and Burdizzo on here.
The UN talks about 'replacement migration', so it is a 'thing'.
What is the replacement migration?
Replacement migration refers to the international migration that a country would need to offset population decline and population ageing resulting from low fertility and mortality rates.
yeah its a 'thing' whatever that means
Quote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 01:14:37 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 12:50:04 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
That's two different things. I think the book is wrong and should not be used. My reply was not about that but the wider idea of Irishness being eroded which people are trying to say
The words I used were 'denigrated' and 'disparaged'. I could also add 'mocked' and 'demeaned'. I don't feel my own sense of Irish-ness is eroded. However, it does seem to aim to influence impressionable school-children to identify as 'hip' internationalists and opposed to 'backward' Irish. That's the message, and that's the problem. Who promotes and pays for this stuff?
But the book isn't claiming all Irish families are like this. Its giving you charastistics of this family. And they are backwards.
Anyone eating cabbage everyday should be shot with a ball of their own sh!te.
I'd imagine it would promote a good healthty debate in schools. Id be interested to hear from any teachers who might have had these lessons to see what was discussed.
I cannot see anyone getting too excerised about the pictures (laughable as they are), id imagine most laugh at it too, as they would looking at how we are protrayed in american movies or looking at old tv shows, like captain planet ( a classic take on the north of ireland).
Id say some of most see some of themselves or parents in family 1 and family 2.
Yep-as expected
Tying yourselves up in knots justifying and excusing such horrible slurs proving (to yourselves) how woke and inclusive you all are in the name of political correctness. I'm actually embarrassed for you
If a similar "hit piece" was written denigrating some minority group the same people would be out with burning pitchforks calling for people to be prosecuted
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on September 02, 2024, 01:43:46 PMId say some of most see some of themselves or parents in family 1 and family 2.
Exactly.
I ate spuds but also eat Italian/Indian/Chinese....
Quote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 01:53:37 PMYep-as expected
Tying yourselves up in knots justifying and excusing such horrible slurs proving (to yourselves) how woke and inclusive you all are in the name of political correctness. I'm actually embarrassed for you
If a similar "hit piece" was written denigrating some minority group the same people would be out with burning pitchforks calling for people to be prosecuted
The deeply conservative Burka wearing family living next door to the big arsed bacon and cabbage patch crew. Oh think of the adventures!
If it was a book depicting Jewish people with big noses hoarding money, or africans playing bongo drums and wearing animal skins there'd be uproar.
Weird as f**k thing to be showing children.
Quote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 01:14:37 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 12:50:04 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
That's two different things. I think the book is wrong and should not be used. My reply was not about that but the wider idea of Irishness being eroded which people are trying to say
The words I used were 'denigrated' and 'disparaged'. I could also add 'mocked' and 'demeaned'. I don't feel my own sense of Irish-ness is eroded. However, it does seem to aim to influence impressionable school-children to identify as 'hip' internationalists and opposed to 'backward' Irish. That's the message, and that's the problem. Who promotes and pays for this stuff?
we are on the same page regarding the book then. However, before this book came to light people have been saying irishness is being eroded, our cultural identity is being taken away etc
Quote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 01:53:37 PMYep-as expected
Tying yourselves up in knots justifying and excusing such horrible slurs proving (to yourselves) how woke and inclusive you all are in the name of political correctness. I'm actually embarrassed for you
more drivel
Quote from: Father Murphy on September 02, 2024, 12:46:05 PMQuote from: thebigfella on September 02, 2024, 12:39:34 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
In fairness family A lived beside me while I was growing up 20/30 years ago. We mocked the sh1te out of them at that point, and rightly so, and was nothing to do with a great replacement.
They had no relatives living abroad and would only watch movies made in Ireland?
Weren't allowed to watch Home and Away or Neighbours either ;D
Quote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 12:49:01 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on September 02, 2024, 12:46:05 PMQuote from: thebigfella on September 02, 2024, 12:39:34 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
In fairness family A lived beside me while I was growing up 20/30 years ago. We mocked the sh1te out of them at that point, and rightly so, and was nothing to do with a great replacement.
They had no relatives living abroad and would only watch movies made in Ireland?
And eat bacon and cabbage every day
No that was our house but we had relatives living abroad and loved a good Hollywood blockbuster.
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 02, 2024, 02:28:38 PMIf it was a book depicting Jewish people with big noses hoarding money, or africans playing bongo drums and wearing animal skins there'd be uproar.
Weird as f**k thing to be showing children.
what wrong with africans in traditional clothes or playing drums...
The jewish depiction is different and akin to the drunken irish lad fighting or hitting the wife. which isnt shown here.
i could see a good debate to be had in classrooms around sterotypes, around choice, mixing, wealth etc. Children arent stupid.
Has it been established where the book was actually used in a classroom? Legit?
Quote from: thebigfella on September 02, 2024, 04:03:30 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on September 02, 2024, 12:46:05 PMQuote from: thebigfella on September 02, 2024, 12:39:34 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on September 02, 2024, 11:08:13 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 02, 2024, 09:31:47 AMClearly the idea of "Irish-ness" is being disparaged. Can you not see that? It's almost like a parody! The not very subliminal message is that you should identify, not as "Irish", but as a "citizen of the world".
Amazingly, all this jetting around the place is very unhealthy for the environment, but yet is being pushed pretty hard! Who is promoting and funding this rootless cosmopolitanism?!
My Irishness is certainly not being disparaged, nor is anyone elses I know. If yours is it sounds like a you problem. And if you feel yours is because of others coming to this island then your irishness wasnt very strong in the first place
It is a clear effort to paint an Irish family as somehow less 'modern' and 'cool' than an 'internationalist' family. If you can't see that, you're either not very bright, or you're just arguing for the sake of it. I suspect the latter.
In fairness family A lived beside me while I was growing up 20/30 years ago. We mocked the sh1te out of them at that point, and rightly so, and was nothing to do with a great replacement.
They had no relatives living abroad and would only watch movies made in Ireland?
Weren't allowed to watch Home and Away or Neighbours either ;D
Rightly so haha
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2024, 12:59:37 PMQuote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 12:53:34 PM2 simple questions
Should the book be removed from the curriculum?
Should the person who approved it be fired?
yes
yes
Will that make you more Irish?
This post genuinely makes me sad
I never realized the harm that 70 years of state subjugation left on our northern brethren
To have such low self esteem and self loathing must be an incredible burden to carry around every day.
Having to now prove, at every turn, how open, accepting and liberal you all are is actually pathetic
We don't u to prove anything.
We are in the main decent rolerant accepting liberal free people.
Long may we remain so.
Sick sad non decent non accepting discriminating hate filled intolerant xenophobes mired in the 1950s can fck right off.
Was a Leitrim pride March in Carrick last weekend.
One individual asked me why are they marching?
I replied because they can.
That wouldn't have been allowed or tolerated in whiteyirelamd
At this point why do you bother. Ignore button. Pure drivel from someone looking at Ireland through a narrow prism of their own social media then telling people how it is from thousands of miles away.
Quote from: whitey on September 03, 2024, 05:31:29 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2024, 12:59:37 PMQuote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 12:53:34 PM2 simple questions
Should the book be removed from the curriculum?
Should the person who approved it be fired?
yes
yes
Will that make you more Irish?
This post genuinely makes me sad
I never realized the harm that 70 years of state subjugation left on our northern brethren
To have such low self esteem and self loathing must be an incredible burden to carry around every day.
Having to now prove, at every turn, how open, accepting and liberal you all are is actually pathetic
I genuinely have no idea what you are responding to with that post?
Quote from: whitey on September 03, 2024, 05:31:29 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2024, 12:59:37 PMQuote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 12:53:34 PM2 simple questions
Should the book be removed from the curriculum?
Should the person who approved it be fired?
yes
yes
Will that make you more Irish?
This post genuinely makes me sad
I never realized the harm that 70 years of state subjugation left on our northern brethren
To have such low self esteem and self loathing must be an incredible burden to carry around every day.
Having to now prove, at every turn, how open, accepting and liberal you all are is actually pathetic
😂 The shape of this.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 03, 2024, 10:07:09 PMQuote from: whitey on September 03, 2024, 05:31:29 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2024, 12:59:37 PMQuote from: whitey on September 02, 2024, 12:53:34 PM2 simple questions
Should the book be removed from the curriculum?
Should the person who approved it be fired?
yes
yes
Will that make you more Irish?
This post genuinely makes me sad
I never realized the harm that 70 years of state subjugation left on our northern brethren
To have such low self esteem and self loathing must be an incredible burden to carry around every day.
Having to now prove, at every turn, how open, accepting and liberal you all are is actually pathetic
😂 The shape of this.
Not sure where Whiteman is from... an immigrant in the US I think.. the irony. His hatred of anyone that he doesn't see as his own tribe is childish. However to suggest the southern brethern weren't subjugated is hilarious, the imprint of the Catholic Church's boot still on their necks..
Was at a family get together a few years ago - could be ten years ago. Anyway the brother in law is English and his father was at the gathering is English also.
i was talking to him about some upcoming football tournament and said to him -''You have the Flag out back home''.
He shook his head and said ''Nah, couldn't be doing that''
He said to me. ''I'm English, White, Male, Heterosexual, old - We are not allowed to express ourselves - It's just the way now.''
Don't ask me what part of England he lives in - but I thought it was quiet sad.
The theme is in getting your rights - be careful how you affect those opposite to you.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2024, 10:59:03 PMWas at a family get together a few years ago - could be ten years ago. Anyway the brother in law is English and his father was at the gathering is English also.
i was talking to him about some upcoming football tournament and said to him -''You have the Flag out back home''.
He shook his head and said ''Nah, couldn't be doing that''
He said to me. ''I'm English, White, Male, Heterosexual, old - We are not allowed to express ourselves - It's just the way now.''
Don't ask me what part of England he lives in - but I thought it was quiet sad.
The theme is in getting your rights - be careful how you affect those opposite to you.
It's nothing to do with sex or colour, it's the fact the English flag was hijacked by the likes of the NF and football hooligans years ago. Not that it had a great reputation before right enough
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2024, 10:59:03 PMWas at a family get together a few years ago - could be ten years ago. Anyway the brother in law is English and his father was at the gathering is English also.
i was talking to him about some upcoming football tournament and said to him -''You have the Flag out back home''.
He shook his head and said ''Nah, couldn't be doing that''
He said to me. ''I'm English, White, Male, Heterosexual, old - We are not allowed to express ourselves - It's just the way now.''
Don't ask me what part of England he lives in - but I thought it was quiet sad.
The theme is in getting your rights - be careful how you affect those opposite to you.
That was essentially my point
None of them could find it in themselves to condemn the outrageous depiction of Family A because somehow it would give credibility to other people who were also condemning it
Quote from: whitey on September 03, 2024, 11:33:03 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2024, 10:59:03 PMWas at a family get together a few years ago - could be ten years ago. Anyway the brother in law is English and his father was at the gathering is English also.
i was talking to him about some upcoming football tournament and said to him -''You have the Flag out back home''.
He shook his head and said ''Nah, couldn't be doing that''
He said to me. ''I'm English, White, Male, Heterosexual, old - We are not allowed to express ourselves - It's just the way now.''
Don't ask me what part of England he lives in - but I thought it was quiet sad.
The theme is in getting your rights - be careful how you affect those opposite to you.
That was essentially my point
None of them could find it in themselves to condemn the outrageous depiction of Family A because somehow it would give credibility to other people who were also condemning it
you asked MR if the book should be removed from the curriculum and if the person who approved it should be fired. he answered yes. You then went on some tirade against those of us from the North. Is it any wonder people think youre a gobshite
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2024, 10:59:03 PMWas at a family get together a few years ago - could be ten years ago. Anyway the brother in law is English and his father was at the gathering is English also.
i was talking to him about some upcoming football tournament and said to him -''You have the Flag out back home''.
He shook his head and said ''Nah, couldn't be doing that''
He said to me. ''I'm English, White, Male, Heterosexual, old - We are not allowed to express ourselves - It's just the way now.''
Don't ask me what part of England he lives in - but I thought it was quiet sad.
The theme is in getting your rights - be careful how you affect those opposite to you.
Was in London this year during the weekend of the Euro finals... I didn't see anyone being offended by the amount of flegs and carnage around the city centre, on the tubes or in the pubs..
I was a bit apprehensive as we'd things booked and needed to be out and about, but there was a decent buzz about the place and not a bad vibe. Lads were respectful, albeit pissed as feck but from what I could see, nearly everyone about, white brown or black had a St George flag on them.
Except for the yuppie bar we went to near the Shard, all watching the game but no tops, a more diverse crowd probably.
More bad news for whitemoan and Burdy
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0831/1467616-work-permit-changes/
Quote from: Rossfan on September 04, 2024, 08:57:58 AMMore bad news for whitemoan and Burdy
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0831/1467616-work-permit-changes/
People coming over here and stealing our jobs ffs!! Sorry doing the jobs that the lazy native cnuts won't get out of bed to do as they are doing alright on the benefits system ;)
https://www.joe.ie/news/irish-schoolbook-apology-family-816558?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0F8tlB426mdQL6vViiHoPErGpqo0vSr518UPDOnuJkvYevMcbb8WjBXpI_aem_0EvDfEHf0D_vKPfiqb0kqA
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 04, 2024, 05:22:37 PMhttps://www.joe.ie/news/irish-schoolbook-apology-family-816558?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0F8tlB426mdQL6vViiHoPErGpqo0vSr518UPDOnuJkvYevMcbb8WjBXpI_aem_0EvDfEHf0D_vKPfiqb0kqA
Was a misguided attempt at countering far right propaganda and the hateful racism that led to this...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v5yn6q15do
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 04, 2024, 05:40:18 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on September 04, 2024, 05:22:37 PMhttps://www.joe.ie/news/irish-schoolbook-apology-family-816558?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0F8tlB426mdQL6vViiHoPErGpqo0vSr518UPDOnuJkvYevMcbb8WjBXpI_aem_0EvDfEHf0D_vKPfiqb0kqA
Was a misguided attempt at countering far right propaganda and the hateful racism that led to this...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v5yn6q15do
Seen that earlier, poor woman.
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 04, 2024, 05:52:21 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 04, 2024, 05:40:18 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on September 04, 2024, 05:22:37 PMhttps://www.joe.ie/news/irish-schoolbook-apology-family-816558?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0F8tlB426mdQL6vViiHoPErGpqo0vSr518UPDOnuJkvYevMcbb8WjBXpI_aem_0EvDfEHf0D_vKPfiqb0kqA
Was a misguided attempt at countering far right propaganda and the hateful racism that led to this...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v5yn6q15do
Seen that earlier, poor woman.
Dreadful
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2024, 09:05:58 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 04, 2024, 08:57:58 AMMore bad news for whitemoan and Burdy
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0831/1467616-work-permit-changes/
People coming over here and stealing our jobs ffs!! Sorry doing the jobs that the lazy native cnuts won't get out of bed to do as they are doing alright on the benefits system ;)
What is it you always say? "Blame the government, not the immigrant"? Well, in this case it should be 'blame the welfare state, not the lazy **** who won't get out of bed...'!
Seriously, though; of course, there's a residual class who are doing way too well off other people's taxes and wouldn't know work if it bit them on the arse. However, there's also another cohort who are simply priced out of these jobs because they have to run a car, a mortgage, rear a family, etc., while the cheap imported labour will have none of these costs - at least, not in this country. Surprised the unions don't have something to say about this?
Quote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 06:15:53 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2024, 09:05:58 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 04, 2024, 08:57:58 AMMore bad news for whitemoan and Burdy
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0831/1467616-work-permit-changes/
People coming over here and stealing our jobs ffs!! Sorry doing the jobs that the lazy native cnuts won't get out of bed to do as they are doing alright on the benefits system ;)
What is it you always say? "Blame the government, not the immigrant"? Well, in this case it should be 'blame the welfare state, not the lazy **** who won't get out of bed...'!
Seriously, though; of course, there's a residual class who are doing way too well off other people's taxes and wouldn't know work if it bit them on the arse. However, there's also another cohort who are simply priced out of these jobs because they have to run a car, a mortgage, rear a family, etc., while the cheap imported labour will have none of these costs - at least, not in this country. Surprised the unions don't have something to say about this?
Is there a minimum wage structure in the south?
Not everyone is in a position run a car or have a mortgage and bring up the family according to social media lies.
The government run the welfare state, so it's on them to have a job seekers allowance and if they don't seek employment they should be taken off the allowance scheme
To say I'm priced out of the market of working is a cop out, basically it's someone who adds up what they might get for working 36 hours over working no hours claiming they are priced out cause they would get the same amount from benefits as working!
There is enough jobs out there for everyone. Lots of people even have two or three incomes from working.
If unable to work due to (an actual) disability or illness I've no issues with that, it's the pure lazy work the system bastids that need to be stripped of their allowances.
If more 'natives' were working they'd be too busy working to be complaining about immigration
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 04, 2024, 05:22:37 PMhttps://www.joe.ie/news/irish-schoolbook-apology-family-816558?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0F8tlB426mdQL6vViiHoPErGpqo0vSr518UPDOnuJkvYevMcbb8WjBXpI_aem_0EvDfEHf0D_vKPfiqb0kqA
Good
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2024, 06:42:50 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 06:15:53 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2024, 09:05:58 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 04, 2024, 08:57:58 AMMore bad news for whitemoan and Burdy
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0831/1467616-work-permit-changes/
People coming over here and stealing our jobs ffs!! Sorry doing the jobs that the lazy native cnuts won't get out of bed to do as they are doing alright on the benefits system ;)
What is it you always say? "Blame the government, not the immigrant"? Well, in this case it should be 'blame the welfare state, not the lazy **** who won't get out of bed...'!
Seriously, though; of course, there's a residual class who are doing way too well off other people's taxes and wouldn't know work if it bit them on the arse. However, there's also another cohort who are simply priced out of these jobs because they have to run a car, a mortgage, rear a family, etc., while the cheap imported labour will have none of these costs - at least, not in this country. Surprised the unions don't have something to say about this?
Is there a minimum wage structure in the south?
Not everyone is in a position run a car or have a mortgage and bring up the family according to social media lies.
The government run the welfare state, so it's on them to have a job seekers allowance and if they don't seek employment they should be taken off the allowance scheme
To say I'm priced out of the market of working is a cop out, basically it's someone who adds up what they might get for working 36 hours over working no hours claiming they are priced out cause they would get the same amount from benefits as working!
There is enough jobs out there for everyone. Lots of people even have two or three incomes from working.
If unable to work due to (an actual) disability or illness I've no issues with that, it's the pure lazy work the system bastids that need to be stripped of their allowances.
If more 'natives' were working they'd be too busy working to be complaining about immigration
You've completely missed the point. Sheesh. This is why I hardly ever bother responding to your posts.
The far right AFD won regional elections in 2 regions of Germany.
Quote from: seafoid on September 04, 2024, 09:21:59 PMThe far right AFD won regional elections in 2 regions of Germany.
Well, one - I thought? Close second in the other. Importantly, however, with 38% of the youth vote.
Anyway, not "far right". Just normal conservative.
Quote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:24:55 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 04, 2024, 09:21:59 PMThe far right AFD won regional elections in 2 regions of Germany.
Well, one - I thought? Close second in the other. Importantly, however, with 38% of the youth vote.
Anyway, not "far right". Just normal conservative.
Of course they aren't, Nazifascist scum.
The same denial in Ireland as in Germany.
https://x.com/i_iratus/status/1831068852119388297?s=46
Quote from: Father Murphy on September 04, 2024, 09:33:06 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:24:55 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 04, 2024, 09:21:59 PMThe far right AFD won regional elections in 2 regions of Germany.
Well, one - I thought? Close second in the other. Importantly, however, with 38% of the youth vote.
Anyway, not "far right". Just normal conservative.
Of course they aren't, Nazifascist scum.
The same denial in Ireland as in Germany.
https://x.com/i_iratus/status/1831068852119388297?s=46
Yes, normal conservatives. Only brainwashed far-left, self-hating, anti-nationalists would see them as anything else.
The last time an extremist right wing party held sway in germany it all went arseways.
Quote from: seafoid on September 04, 2024, 09:39:04 PMThe last time an extremist right wing party held sway in germany it all went arseways.
There's no extremist right-wing party in Germany that's getting a lot of votes. As for the conservative AFD - even though they might be the biggest party, they won't be let govern. Pretty undemocratic, eh?
Quote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:38:04 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on September 04, 2024, 09:33:06 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:24:55 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 04, 2024, 09:21:59 PMThe far right AFD won regional elections in 2 regions of Germany.
Well, one - I thought? Close second in the other. Importantly, however, with 38% of the youth vote.
Anyway, not "far right". Just normal conservative.
Of course they aren't, Nazifascist scum.
The same denial in Ireland as in Germany.
https://x.com/i_iratus/status/1831068852119388297?s=46
Yes, normal conservatives. Only brainwashed far-left, self-hating, anti-nationalists would see them as anything else.
Only a racist hate-filled Nazifascist would see them as normal conservative. Nazifascist.
Quote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:38:04 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on September 04, 2024, 09:33:06 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:24:55 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 04, 2024, 09:21:59 PMThe far right AFD won regional elections in 2 regions of Germany.
Well, one - I thought? Close second in the other. Importantly, however, with 38% of the youth vote.
Anyway, not "far right". Just normal conservative.
Of course they aren't, Nazifascist scum.
The same denial in Ireland as in Germany.
https://x.com/i_iratus/status/1831068852119388297?s=46
Yes, normal conservatives. Only brainwashed far-left, self-hating, anti-nationalists would see them as anything else.
That's like a Jamie Bryson Tweet 🥴
Quote from: Father Murphy on September 04, 2024, 09:47:25 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:38:04 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on September 04, 2024, 09:33:06 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:24:55 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 04, 2024, 09:21:59 PMThe far right AFD won regional elections in 2 regions of Germany.
Well, one - I thought? Close second in the other. Importantly, however, with 38% of the youth vote.
Anyway, not "far right". Just normal conservative.
Of course they aren't, Nazifascist scum.
The same denial in Ireland as in Germany.
https://x.com/i_iratus/status/1831068852119388297?s=46
Yes, normal conservatives. Only brainwashed far-left, self-hating, anti-nationalists would see them as anything else.
Only a racist hate-filled Nazifascist would see them as normal conservative. Nazifascist.
Ooooh. How meaningless are your words.
If you call everyone who doesn't hate themselves and their nation, or who doesn't love open borders, a 'Nazifascist', then most people are such. And what then do you call people who want to bring back the camps and fire up the ovens?? 'Nasty Nazinazis'? Grow up.
Quote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 10:25:26 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on September 04, 2024, 09:47:25 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:38:04 PMQuote from: Father Murphy on September 04, 2024, 09:33:06 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:24:55 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 04, 2024, 09:21:59 PMThe far right AFD won regional elections in 2 regions of Germany.
Well, one - I thought? Close second in the other. Importantly, however, with 38% of the youth vote.
Anyway, not "far right". Just normal conservative.
Of course they aren't, Nazifascist scum.
The same denial in Ireland as in Germany.
https://x.com/i_iratus/status/1831068852119388297?s=46
Yes, normal conservatives. Only brainwashed far-left, self-hating, anti-nationalists would see them as anything else.
Only a racist hate-filled Nazifascist would see them as normal conservative. Nazifascist.
Ooooh. How meaningless are your words.
If you call everyone who doesn't hate themselves and their nation, or who doesn't love open borders, a 'Nazifascist', then most people are such. And what then do you call people who want to bring back the camps and fire up the ovens?? 'Nasty Nazinazis'? Grow up.
Not meaningless at all. Most decent people see through this Nazifascism masquerading as concern for their people and culture. Very insidious... and a rake of gullible gobsh*tes here have gone out and made eejits of themselves with their loyalist mates.
Quote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 09:14:52 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2024, 06:42:50 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 06:15:53 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2024, 09:05:58 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 04, 2024, 08:57:58 AMMore bad news for whitemoan and Burdy
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0831/1467616-work-permit-changes/
People coming over here and stealing our jobs ffs!! Sorry doing the jobs that the lazy native cnuts won't get out of bed to do as they are doing alright on the benefits system ;)
What is it you always say? "Blame the government, not the immigrant"? Well, in this case it should be 'blame the welfare state, not the lazy **** who won't get out of bed...'!
Seriously, though; of course, there's a residual class who are doing way too well off other people's taxes and wouldn't know work if it bit them on the arse. However, there's also another cohort who are simply priced out of these jobs because they have to run a car, a mortgage, rear a family, etc., while the cheap imported labour will have none of these costs - at least, not in this country. Surprised the unions don't have something to say about this?
Is there a minimum wage structure in the south?
Not everyone is in a position run a car or have a mortgage and bring up the family according to social media lies.
The government run the welfare state, so it's on them to have a job seekers allowance and if they don't seek employment they should be taken off the allowance scheme
To say I'm priced out of the market of working is a cop out, basically it's someone who adds up what they might get for working 36 hours over working no hours claiming they are priced out cause they would get the same amount from benefits as working!
There is enough jobs out there for everyone. Lots of people even have two or three incomes from working.
If unable to work due to (an actual) disability or illness I've no issues with that, it's the pure lazy work the system bastids that need to be stripped of their allowances.
If more 'natives' were working they'd be too busy working to be complaining about immigration
You've completely missed the point. Sheesh. This is why I hardly ever bother responding to your posts.
You've made no point..
I've asked you is there a minimum wage structure in the south?
That's a yes or no answer
You've already said that there is a cohort of people that are happy to rape the system dry
And a cohort of people who don't get enough to run things? That's down to them. If you think people should get paid more money then that's down to employers.
If someone applies for a job, they'll know how much it pays, only a header would apply for a job that's not ( for them) cover their needs
If we have to bring in immigrants to fill the jobs that the locals won't do, then there should be no complaints about bringing them.
Also put me on ignore.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2024, 10:44:34 PMYou've made no point..
I've asked you is there a minimum wage structure in the south?
That's a yes or no answer
You've already said that there is a cohort of people that are happy to rape the system dry
And a cohort of people who don't get enough to run things? That's down to them. If you think people should get paid more money then that's down to employers.
If someone applies for a job, they'll know how much it pays, only a header would apply for a job that's not ( for them) cover their needs
If we have to bring in immigrants to fill the jobs that the locals won't do, then there should be no complaints about bringing them.
Also put me on ignore.
No, I've never put anyone on ignore. Wouldn't stoop to that. I just don't bother answering most of your posts.
I'll give the example of a meat factory, because there's one near to where I live. Not so long ago, this was worked by Irish people from the locality. They were prepared to do so, and it gave them enough to run the basic things of living in Ireland - car, family, etc. Now these factories have barely any Irish people in them, because people come from other countries and work for low wages that are more than adequate to run a family, mortgage, etc., in their own country, but not here. It's not that the Irish WON'T do this work, it's that they CAN'T AFFORD to - if they want the normal things people aspire to in this country. You say it's up to employers to give a living wage, but why the hell would they when the government has simply opened up the labour market to all and sundry from anywhere and everywhere?! You sound a bit like a Tory, actually.
I mentioned the Irish Ferries thing before. The unions have been absolutely defeated on this, partly because of name-calling idiots who think cutting off their nose does no more than spite their face.
Quote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 11:21:02 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2024, 10:44:34 PMYou've made no point..
I've asked you is there a minimum wage structure in the south?
That's a yes or no answer
You've already said that there is a cohort of people that are happy to rape the system dry
And a cohort of people who don't get enough to run things? That's down to them. If you think people should get paid more money then that's down to employers.
If someone applies for a job, they'll know how much it pays, only a header would apply for a job that's not ( for them) cover their needs
If we have to bring in immigrants to fill the jobs that the locals won't do, then there should be no complaints about bringing them.
Also put me on ignore.
No, I've never put anyone on ignore. Wouldn't stoop to that. I just don't bother answering most of your posts.
I'll give the example of a meat factory, because there's one near to where I live. Not so long ago, this was worked by Irish people from the locality. They were prepared to do so, and it gave them enough to run the basic things of living in Ireland - car, family, etc. Now these factories have barely any Irish people in them, because people come from other countries and work for low wages that are more than adequate to run a family, mortgage, etc., in their own country, but not here. It's not that the Irish WON'T do this work, it's that they CAN'T AFFORD to - if they want the normal things people aspire to in this country. You say it's up to employers to give a living wage, but why the hell would they when the government has simply opened up the labour market to all and sundry from anywhere and everywhere?! You sound a bit like a Tory, actually.
I mentioned the Irish Ferries thing before. The unions have been absolutely defeated on this, partly because of name-calling idiots who think cutting off their nose does no more than spite their face.
So the south doesn't have a minimum wage structure?
Can these white Irish natives get all the things you have mentioned by not working?
Employers are looking at costs to stay open, if you were to run a business you need to make it profitable otherwise why would you run it? A successful business is one that is making 5% profit after its outgoings
I used to place students into work, getting them through their qualifications and apprenticeships, speaking to employers every day, one major engineering employer had a lot of Poles working for them, he showed me a simple manufacturing chart on production, the production of the Poles in comparison to the white local Irish natives, simply put, if the poles were not working there the place would have closed.
The Poles were able to live here, have a car either rent or buy a house and still send money home, maybe the asperations of some need to be matched by their effort at work, if you have high asperations then you need to look for employment that will match that..
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2024, 08:55:41 AMQuote from: burdizzo on September 04, 2024, 11:21:02 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2024, 10:44:34 PMYou've made no point..
I've asked you is there a minimum wage structure in the south?
That's a yes or no answer
You've already said that there is a cohort of people that are happy to rape the system dry
And a cohort of people who don't get enough to run things? That's down to them. If you think people should get paid more money then that's down to employers.
If someone applies for a job, they'll know how much it pays, only a header would apply for a job that's not ( for them) cover their needs
If we have to bring in immigrants to fill the jobs that the locals won't do, then there should be no complaints about bringing them.
Also put me on ignore.
No, I've never put anyone on ignore. Wouldn't stoop to that. I just don't bother answering most of your posts.
I'll give the example of a meat factory, because there's one near to where I live. Not so long ago, this was worked by Irish people from the locality. They were prepared to do so, and it gave them enough to run the basic things of living in Ireland - car, family, etc. Now these factories have barely any Irish people in them, because people come from other countries and work for low wages that are more than adequate to run a family, mortgage, etc., in their own country, but not here. It's not that the Irish WON'T do this work, it's that they CAN'T AFFORD to - if they want the normal things people aspire to in this country. You say it's up to employers to give a living wage, but why the hell would they when the government has simply opened up the labour market to all and sundry from anywhere and everywhere?! You sound a bit like a Tory, actually.
I mentioned the Irish Ferries thing before. The unions have been absolutely defeated on this, partly because of name-calling idiots who think cutting off their nose does no more than spite their face.
So the south doesn't have a minimum wage structure?
Can these white Irish natives get all the things you have mentioned by not working?
Employers are looking at costs to stay open, if you were to run a business you need to make it profitable otherwise why would you run it? A successful business is one that is making 5% profit after its outgoings
I used to place students into work, getting them through their qualifications and apprenticeships, speaking to employers every day, one major engineering employer had a lot of Poles working for them, he showed me a simple manufacturing chart on production, the production of the Poles in comparison to the white local Irish natives, simply put, if the poles were not working there the place would have closed.
The Poles were able to live here, have a car either rent or buy a house and still send money home, maybe the asperations of some need to be matched by their effort at work, if you have high asperations then you need to look for employment that will match that..
Well, I agree with the last bit. Some people tie themselves up in debt because they want to 'keep up with the Jones'', or whatever. Still doesn't change the fact that importing workers helps keep wage costs down.
Another group for Whitey's/Burdys heroic defenders to drink with....
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/far-right-protestant-militia-linked-to-race-hate-arson-attack-at-belfast-church/a1082365934.html
It is a typical strategy of the far right to point the finger at immigrants blaming 'them' for state of the economy, housing prizes, rental prices, exploitation and just about everything else caused by capitalist employers and right wing governance. Of course the governments love that... the level of worker explotation here is shocking and people need to mobilise against the employers/government not the migrants.
I've had the misfortune to work in the meat factories down south decades ago owned by Larry Goodman... dreadful pay and hours and not a migrant worker in the place.
Rather than rhetoric show us actual figures to back these claims that wages were hughely reduced to replace locals and entice foreign workers..
(https://scontent.fdub4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/458492891_919531776875640_945212491515434203_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s720x720&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=UbSbBya--4AQ7kNvgGcwYyD&_nc_ht=scontent.fdub4-2.fna&cb_e2o_trans=q&_nc_gid=A6rdibHcYWgQYKgQonaf2NS&oh=00_AYBDeo0B8d6IPDUTdkdZJSpcnw33C0SMbvQYbqlha5PcrA&oe=66E0BE2F)
Ex-Hardy Bucks star asks if Enoch Burke would have been arrested 'if he was Muslim
https://tinyurl.com/5frwuv87 (https://tinyurl.com/5frwuv87)
If my aunt.....
Meanwhile whiteyburdys heroic defenders at it again.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41470444.html
Quote from: Rossfan on September 06, 2024, 02:12:40 PMIf my aunt.....
Ironically that's what the argument is about......
Far right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Quote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.
Quote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Brexit is a terrible example. Tory Brexit was a globalist project - exactly the opposite of what people voted for.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 06, 2024, 02:29:49 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.
Like Russia ?
Why are they anti climate action?
Quote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:34:54 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 06, 2024, 02:29:49 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.
Like Russia ?
Why are they anti climate action?
They've huge chunks of land that are basically useless due to the cold, if the northern ice continued to melt they'd be able to use it?
Quote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:34:54 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 06, 2024, 02:29:49 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.
Like Russia ?
Why are they anti climate action?
Open borders is anti-climate action.
Quote from: burdizzo on September 06, 2024, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Brexit is a terrible example. Tory Brexit was a globalist project - exactly the opposite of what people voted for.
It was an elite project wrapped up in far right rhetoric.
Quote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 03:16:30 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 06, 2024, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Brexit is a terrible example. Tory Brexit was a globalist project - exactly the opposite of what people voted for.
It was an elite project wrapped up in far right rhetoric.
And it did not deliver what the right wanted. You could actually say - with more justification - the elites are all about distraction and preventing problems being solved. Which is quite akin to what From The Bunker said.
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 06, 2024, 02:37:36 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:34:54 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 06, 2024, 02:29:49 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.
Like Russia ?
Why are they anti climate action?
They've huge chunks of land that are basically useless due to the cold, if the northern ice continued to melt they'd be able to use it?
They are also polarising. What good does that do ?
Quote from: burdizzo on September 06, 2024, 03:23:34 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 03:16:30 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 06, 2024, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Brexit is a terrible example. Tory Brexit was a globalist project - exactly the opposite of what people voted for.
It was an elite project wrapped up in far right rhetoric.
And it did not deliver what the right wanted. You could actually say - with more justification - the elites are all about distraction and preventing problems being solved. Which is quite akin to what From The Bunker said.
You could but conventional politicians are more likely to get things done eg the US inflation act or climate action in Ireland. Far right politicians are designed to stop thing getting done.
Quote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:34:54 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 06, 2024, 02:29:49 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.
Like Russia ?
Why are they anti climate action?
Why are who anti-climate?
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 06, 2024, 04:00:27 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:34:54 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 06, 2024, 02:29:49 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.
Like Russia ?
Why are they anti climate action?
Why are who anti-climate?
Wilders, Orban, le pen, Putin, the turf warriors
Quote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 03:45:28 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 06, 2024, 03:23:34 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 03:16:30 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 06, 2024, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Brexit is a terrible example. Tory Brexit was a globalist project - exactly the opposite of what people voted for.
It was an elite project wrapped up in far right rhetoric.
And it did not deliver what the right wanted. You could actually say - with more justification - the elites are all about distraction and preventing problems being solved. Which is quite akin to what From The Bunker said.
You could but conventional politicians are more likely to get things done eg the US inflation act or climate action in Ireland. Far right politicians are designed to stop thing getting done.
"Designed"? By whom? The elites? As a distraction? When you hear the guards saying the 'far right' is the biggest threat in the state, you know they're just trying to create a bogeyman. While they don't get things done.
Anyway, most of the time the elites won't let the right 'get things done'.
Quote from: burdizzo on September 06, 2024, 04:51:13 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 03:45:28 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 06, 2024, 03:23:34 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 03:16:30 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 06, 2024, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: seafoid on September 06, 2024, 02:27:22 PMFar right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.
Brexit is a terrible example. Tory Brexit was a globalist project - exactly the opposite of what people voted for.
It was an elite project wrapped up in far right rhetoric.
And it did not deliver what the right wanted. You could actually say - with more justification - the elites are all about distraction and preventing problems being solved. Which is quite akin to what From The Bunker said.
You could but conventional politicians are more likely to get things done eg the US inflation act or climate action in Ireland. Far right politicians are designed to stop thing getting done.
"Designed"? By whom? The elites? As a distraction? When you hear the guards saying the 'far right' is the biggest threat in the state, you know they're just trying to create a bogeyman. While they don't get things done.
Anyway, most of the time the elites won't let the right 'get things done'.
Or let the left things done
More heroes
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/gardai-investigate-incident-at-clare-bandb-due-to-host-asylum-seekers/a849154091.html
Not a fan of that hardy bucks boy but he may have a point would their be effigys of some muslim guy in parades across the country if he did the same.
Far Right facists bring spirit of Alabama to Cork...
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0906/1468744-cork-student/
after this weeks news of historical sex abuse, we have this article THE RISK OF A WITCH-HUNT OVER HISTORIC SEX ABUSE IN SCHOOLS
guess the publication (apologise for sharing if already posted)
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 06, 2024, 11:50:59 PMFar Right facists bring spirit of Alabama to Cork...
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0906/1468744-cork-student/
From what I've read about these incidents online is that those responsible are members of a native minority group who've been terrorizing the entire town-not just the Indian students
Quote from: whitey on September 07, 2024, 02:36:21 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 06, 2024, 11:50:59 PMFar Right facists bring spirit of Alabama to Cork...
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0906/1468744-cork-student/
From what I've read about these incidents online is that those responsible are members of a native minority group who've been terrorizing the entire town-not just the Indian students
Can you put up a link for that? Can't find that anywhere. Not saying you're lying but you know how far right racists tend to... lie 🤷
Some fellow traveller for the 2 bucks
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/drug-dealer-who-was-jailed-over-mans-death-among-far-right-agitators-promoting-major-protest-for-day-dail-returns/a1516329974.html
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 07, 2024, 03:01:13 PMQuote from: whitey on September 07, 2024, 02:36:21 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 06, 2024, 11:50:59 PMFar Right facists bring spirit of Alabama to Cork...
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0906/1468744-cork-student/
From what I've read about these incidents online is that those responsible are members of a native minority group who've been terrorizing the entire town-not just the Indian students
Can you put up a link for that? Can't find that anywhere. Not saying you're lying but you know how far right racists tend to... lie 🤷
Well do you think the main stream media would blow up their far right narrative by actually reporting the real back story
LOL
Quote from: whitey on September 07, 2024, 03:07:10 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 07, 2024, 03:01:13 PMQuote from: whitey on September 07, 2024, 02:36:21 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 06, 2024, 11:50:59 PMFar Right facists bring spirit of Alabama to Cork...
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0906/1468744-cork-student/
From what I've read about these incidents online is that those responsible are members of a native minority group who've been terrorizing the entire town-not just the Indian students
Can you put up a link for that? Can't find that anywhere. Not saying you're lying but you know how far right racists tend to... lie 🤷
Well do you think the main stream media would blow up their far right narrative by actually reporting the real back story
LOL
Racist attacks wherever they come from are far right : )
On this occasion those far right claim to be 'Irish' albeit in cohoots with loyalism and British facism although you an immigrant in the US know different 😄
When something hasn't happened it's "the main stream media not reporting it"🙄
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 07, 2024, 03:19:56 PMQuote from: whitey on September 07, 2024, 03:07:10 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 07, 2024, 03:01:13 PMQuote from: whitey on September 07, 2024, 02:36:21 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 06, 2024, 11:50:59 PMFar Right facists bring spirit of Alabama to Cork...
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0906/1468744-cork-student/
From what I've read about these incidents online is that those responsible are members of a native minority group who've been terrorizing the entire town-not just the Indian students
Can you put up a link for that? Can't find that anywhere. Not saying you're lying but you know how far right racists tend to... lie 🤷
Well do you think the main stream media would blow up their far right narrative by actually reporting the real back story
LOL
Racist attacks wherever they come from are far right : )
On this occasion those far right claim to be 'Irish' albeit in cohoots with loyalism and British facism although you an immigrant in the US know different 😄
Well there's a picture of the guy who did it online. I guess when he's brought to court to answer for his actions we'll find out exactly who he is (even though he seems to have already been identified by numerous people)
Quote from: whitey on September 07, 2024, 04:24:08 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 07, 2024, 03:19:56 PMQuote from: whitey on September 07, 2024, 03:07:10 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 07, 2024, 03:01:13 PMQuote from: whitey on September 07, 2024, 02:36:21 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 06, 2024, 11:50:59 PMFar Right facists bring spirit of Alabama to Cork...
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0906/1468744-cork-student/
From what I've read about these incidents online is that those responsible are members of a native minority group who've been terrorizing the entire town-not just the Indian students
Can you put up a link for that? Can't find that anywhere. Not saying you're lying but you know how far right racists tend to... lie 🤷
Well do you think the main stream media would blow up their far right narrative by actually reporting the real back story
LOL
Racist attacks wherever they come from are far right : )
On this occasion those far right claim to be 'Irish' albeit in cohoots with loyalism and British facism although you an immigrant in the US know different 😄
Well there's a picture of the guy who did it online. I guess when he's brought to court to answer for his actions we'll find out exactly who he is (even though he seems to have already been identified by numerous people)
Racist = far right
Quote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2024, 03:44:12 PMWhen something hasn't happened it's "the main stream media not reporting it"🙄
Journalism has declined quite rapidly. Anyone who ventures outside the narrative is shot down, ridiculed or ignored.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2024, 03:44:12 PMWhen something hasn't happened it's "the main stream media not reporting it"🙄
The lads who post 'The mainstream media aren't reporting this but....' must get some laugh out of all the dopes who believe them and repeat it.
Quote from: Hound on September 08, 2024, 09:50:44 AMThe lads who post 'The mainstream media aren't reporting this but....' must get some laugh out of all the dopes who believe them and repeat it.
The real Dopes who think everything is covered by the Mainstream Media are the ones being laughed at.
The MSM media line sickens my hole tbh. If you buy a quality newspaper you'll generally get a lot of varying & contrary opinions, any amount of gobshites get platforms for opinion pieces. Gerard Baker's opinion pieces on The US Presidential race in the UK Times seem mental to me at times tbh.
It's very telling language tbh. I don't like what "they" are telling me so I will trust other sources. It's a very broad brush too - it's like every "mainstream" media will produce the same stuff. It's up there with language like big pharma, doxing, open border apologists and the list goes on. Indicative of the places people are reading things from.
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2024, 05:10:24 PMIt's very telling language tbh. I don't like what "they" are telling me so I will trust other sources. It's a very broad brush too - it's like every "mainstream" media will produce the same stuff. It's up there with language like big pharma, doxing, open border apologists and the list goes on. Indicative of the places people are reading things from.
In Fairness I get more pissed off about what they are not telling me.
And we get told that this is for our own good.
Like we are Children.
I'm sure there are many things the media don't tell us but it's the same whether it's "msm" or not.
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2024, 06:26:48 PMI'm sure there are many things the media don't tell us but it's the same whether it's "msm" or not.
It's like Whitey said, if it wasn't for twitter none of the mainstream media would have picked up on the anti-Irish SPHE textbook.
I think there is definitely a narrower range of opinions in the mainstream media now. The Irish Times used to carry columnists such as John Waters and Kevin Myers, an even had articles by the likes of Desmond Fennell. Now it gets no more 'edgy' than Michael McDowell. God, even some if its reporting is highly suspicious. There was a story it published about an attack on a migrant camp on the banks on the Dodder a couple of years ago, that is highly unlikely to have happened at all. But then, the IT is endlessly cheerleading for multiculturalism, so what would you expect?!
RTE's news presentations are pretty biased but, in fairness - and much to my amazement - it did interview Malachy Steenson for a documentary it had about the local elections.
Quote from: burdizzo on September 08, 2024, 08:25:46 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2024, 06:26:48 PMI'm sure there are many things the media don't tell us but it's the same whether it's "msm" or not.
It's like Whitey said, if it wasn't for twitter none of the mainstream media would have picked up on the anti-Irish SPHE textbook.
I think there is definitely a narrower range of opinions in the mainstream media now. The Irish Times used to carry columnists such as John Waters and Kevin Myers, an even had articles by the likes of Desmond Fennell. Now it gets no more 'edgy' than Michael McDowell. God, even some if its reporting is highly suspicious. There was a story it published about an attack on a migrant camp on the banks on the Dodder a couple of years ago, that is highly unlikely to have happened at all. But then, the IT is endlessly cheerleading for multiculturalism, so what would you expect?!
RTE's news presentations are pretty biased but, in fairness - and much to my amazement - it did interview Malachy Steenson for a documentary it had about the local elections.
There have been so many attacks on migrant camps and traveler camps that it's difficult to know which attack you're referring to that supposedly never happened.
Is it this one that actually happened (https://archive.ph/EJZsY) or is there some other 'ghost attack' by police or by rabid Irish 'brown shirts'?
Quote from: Main Street on September 08, 2024, 10:00:54 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 08, 2024, 08:25:46 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2024, 06:26:48 PMI'm sure there are many things the media don't tell us but it's the same whether it's "msm" or not.
It's like Whitey said, if it wasn't for twitter none of the mainstream media would have picked up on the anti-Irish SPHE textbook.
I think there is definitely a narrower range of opinions in the mainstream media now. The Irish Times used to carry columnists such as John Waters and Kevin Myers, an even had articles by the likes of Desmond Fennell. Now it gets no more 'edgy' than Michael McDowell. God, even some if its reporting is highly suspicious. There was a story it published about an attack on a migrant camp on the banks on the Dodder a couple of years ago, that is highly unlikely to have happened at all. But then, the IT is endlessly cheerleading for multiculturalism, so what would you expect?!
RTE's news presentations are pretty biased but, in fairness - and much to my amazement - it did interview Malachy Steenson for a documentary it had about the local elections.
There have been so many attacks on migrant camps and traveler camps that it's difficult to know which attack you're referring to that supposedly never happened.
Is it this one that actually happened (https://archive.ph/EJZsY) or is there some other 'ghost attack' by police or by rabid Irish 'brown shirts'?
So lets take the example of what happened in Cork last week
Supposedly a bunch of scumbags have been threatening assaulting and generally harassing people in Cork city center for months. The people they have been assaulting up until now were (for the most) Irish people
When they assault two Indian people in the space of a week they are now miraculously part of some vast far right cabal
Maybe they're just scumbags
Quote from: Main Street on September 08, 2024, 10:00:54 PMQuote from: burdizzo on September 08, 2024, 08:25:46 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2024, 06:26:48 PMI'm sure there are many things the media don't tell us but it's the same whether it's "msm" or not.
It's like Whitey said, if it wasn't for twitter none of the mainstream media would have picked up on the anti-Irish SPHE textbook.
I think there is definitely a narrower range of opinions in the mainstream media now. The Irish Times used to carry columnists such as John Waters and Kevin Myers, an even had articles by the likes of Desmond Fennell. Now it gets no more 'edgy' than Michael McDowell. God, even some if its reporting is highly suspicious. There was a story it published about an attack on a migrant camp on the banks on the Dodder a couple of years ago, that is highly unlikely to have happened at all. But then, the IT is endlessly cheerleading for multiculturalism, so what would you expect?!
RTE's news presentations are pretty biased but, in fairness - and much to my amazement - it did interview Malachy Steenson for a documentary it had about the local elections.
There have been so many attacks on migrant camps and traveler camps that it's difficult to know which attack you're referring to that supposedly never happened.
Is it this one that actually happened (https://archive.ph/EJZsY) or is there some other 'ghost attack' by police or by rabid Irish 'brown shirts'?
This "attack" didn't actually happen - at least not as reported in The IT initially.
https://gript.ie/when-fake-news-becomes-morally-right/
The reality is just because people are scumbags doesn't mean they are "far right" though if people are far right then...
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2024, 08:41:49 AMThe reality is just because people are scumbags doesn't mean they are "far right" though if people are far right then...
not all scumbags are far right but all far right are scumbags
The state of this Far Right vermin, loyalism in partnership with those facists further south, abusing this paralympian. There's no bottom line with these maggots. A lad doing his best to get on with life with his disability being abused by wasters who use up precious oxygen.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/articles/c3d9j01pkrdo.amp
The dirt haven't gone away..
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/far-right-fake-news-linked-to-arson-attack-at-premises-rumoured-to-be-housing-70-migrants/a1380817144.html
Quote from: Rossfan on September 12, 2024, 10:36:31 AMThe dirt haven't gone away..
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/far-right-fake-news-linked-to-arson-attack-at-premises-rumoured-to-be-housing-70-migrants/a1380817144.html
I tell you what, Starmer wasn't long putting a stop to that type of behaviour in England. Some lads are getting 4 plus years in the clink out of it.
It's certainly softened their cough.
The Far Right loyalist partners up north - Spotlight tonight... BBC 1 @ 10:40.
... One of those who tried to support the nurses was Takura Makoni, policy officer at the African and Caribbean Support Network.
He also moved home after being subjected to racist graffiti earlier this year.
He told the programme: "I want you to try and imagine if suddenly every healthcare worker from another country was to go back to their own country.
"Are you telling me those lads who are throwing bricks into the windows are going to get jobs as nurses and start taking care of their own mums and nans?
"Because they won't do it. That's why people are getting on planes to come and do those jobs."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd6qqwx9eqwo
RTE 1... The state of those loyalist loving racist protesters spreading misinformation, intimidating, swearing at and attacking migrants and anyone else that isn't with them...
Should be getting the 2/3 jail terms as dished out in England .. that would cool their heels. Gardai doing nothing
The fn Guards stood looking at them for an hour blocking O'Connell Bridge at rush hour yesterday.
The Public Order Unit was then brought in and cleared the slime off the streets.
Meanwhile the filth who rioted in Dublin last November haven't been dealt with by the Courts yet.
Contrast with English who have their August 24 scumbags jailed already.
Many here would agree that Ireland should consider introducing some form of internment to bring these people to heel .... it worked so well in the past in the black north.
I personally despise this bold labelling of large groups of people who congregate to protest. Whilst a percentage will indeed be scummy hoors, many people have genuine concerns that those in power have no interest in taking on board and that I'm sure infuriates many civil minded people. The gaslighting on this unnatural mass NGO organized immigration is driving people right.
Also
Starmer and his cabinet is consistently pro Zionist. His support for Israel is unwavering
Starmer and his government gave a green light to Ukraine to use NATO guided long-range missiles deep inside Russia which would take us into WW3
Starmer's police state arrested journalist Richard Medhurst who defends Palestinians' right to resist Israeli apartheid, occupation, and other crimes under Anti Terror Law
People need to take a step back and think about what they think would be a good thing just because it would happen on this occasions to what they perceive as their enemy.
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2024, 08:43:13 AMMany here would agree that Ireland should consider introducing some form of internment to bring these people to heel .... it worked so well in the past in the black north.
I personally despise this bold labelling of large groups of people who congregate to protest. Whilst a percentage will indeed be scummy hoors, many people have genuine concerns that those in power have no interest in taking on board and that I'm sure infuriates many civil minded people. The gaslighting on this unnatural mass immigration is driving people right.
Also
Starmer and his cabinet is consistently pro Zionist. His support for Israel is unwavering
Starmer and his government gave a green light to Ukraine to use NATO guided long-range missiles deep inside Russia which would take us into WW3
Starmer's police state arrested journalist Richard Medhurst who defends Palestinians' right to resist Israeli apartheid, occupation, and other crimes under Anti Terror Law
People need to take a step back and think about what they think would be a good thing just because it would happen on this occasions to what they perceive as their enemy.
Lack of basic services like healthcare, housing etc etc and blaming it on migrants is driving people right yet it's the right wing governments who are responsible!
Strange that!
The adult caution scheme!!!
That will show them🙄
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0920/1471048-dublin-protests/
Not much point looking to the Courts to provide protection from bullying, intimidation or harassment by those cnuts.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/far-right-activist-philip-dwyer-acquitted-of-breaching-peace-outside-dublin-creche/a241125282.html
Another heroic defender
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/far-right-figure-andy-heasman-says-hes-given-up-protesting-as-he-vows-to-obey-gardai/a1177208163.html
The Far Right have been quiet here lately - is probably too cold to be out on the streets saving Ireland and there's the Premiership to watch... I hope this man gets huge compensation for what the rhetoric of the likes of Conor McGregor and the facists here caused: I rem this incident & footage
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/1103/1478206-brutalised-nigerian-architect-speaks-out-about-dublin-attack/
Horrific stuff.
Like something out of 1950s Mississipi ☹️.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2024, 11:03:46 AMHorrific stuff.
Like something out of 1950s Mississipi ☹️.
Brutal
The retired guard commentating that's hard to know what has happened, ie 2 sides to every story.....this here shouldn't needed pointed out to any guard even with a modicum of common sense.... 'Mr Udeze's position is that he was unfairly detained, and the other individuals involved in the incident should not have been allowed to leave the scene.'
Maddening and the scum get a away with it. Any of them seen jail time? What about the Laois racist on here, has been quiet, maybe acted out his fantasies...
And the light touch is crazy when you you think of Ireland's reputation as a tourist hot-spot
The scum haven't gone away you know..
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/1103/1478859-alleged-assault-ogorman/
Quote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2024, 04:03:15 PMThe scum haven't gone away you know..
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/1103/1478859-alleged-assault-ogorman/
What happened down in Ballaghadereen?
Quote from: whitey on November 03, 2024, 05:34:18 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2024, 04:03:15 PMThe scum haven't gone away you know..
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/1103/1478859-alleged-assault-ogorman/
What happened down in Ballaghadereen?
Philip Dwyer and his Far Right cronies who landed at public meeting looking for a chance to whip up hatred were told by local people they weren't welcome. Good for them!
Locals had a silent protest, driven by the recent sexual assault of a child by non-national. The far right arrived to exploit tensions and were told to leave.
They fairly told him where to go alright.
Was there a gang of them going around Ballagh in balaclavas last night "patrolling the town"?
These crimes are horrific whoever does them and the perpetrator needs a good hammering. However the Far Right ghouls like Dwyer couldn't care less bout the victims or they'd be across all assaults... they use them to whip up racist hatred if they think there's a foreign national involved.
3 more "heroes"
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-appears-in-court-after-allegedly-attacking-volunteers-at-drag-story-time-event/a527188947.html
Philip Dwyer was told he wasn't wanted in Ballaghaderreen this evening (https://x.com/IrishRebel1965/status/1853146426508792197)
Have our great beacon of truth RTE covered what has happened in Ballaghdereen?
https://www.roscommonherald.ie/news/investigation-into-alleged-assault-on-minor-in-ballagh-does-not-involve-anyone-seeking-internationa_arid-37104.html
That'll come as a huge disappointment to Dwyer and his fellow Far Right maggots.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2024, 08:58:21 PMhttps://www.roscommonherald.ie/news/investigation-into-alleged-assault-on-minor-in-ballagh-does-not-involve-anyone-seeking-internationa_arid-37104.html
Well the story going around was that it involved Roma....who obviously wouldn't be seeking Intl protection
I didn't see anyone claiming that it involved someone seeking international protection
So the Roscommon Herald are denying something that was never being said in the first place
Interesting tactic
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 09:07:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2024, 08:58:21 PMhttps://www.roscommonherald.ie/news/investigation-into-alleged-assault-on-minor-in-ballagh-does-not-involve-anyone-seeking-internationa_arid-37104.html
Well the story going around was that it involved Roma....who obviously wouldn't be seeking Intl protection
I didn't see anyone claiming that it involved someone seeking international protection
So the Roscommon Herald are denying something that was never being said in the first place
Interesting tactic
The anti-migrant migrant has spoken...
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 09:10:19 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 09:07:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2024, 08:58:21 PMhttps://www.roscommonherald.ie/news/investigation-into-alleged-assault-on-minor-in-ballagh-does-not-involve-anyone-seeking-internationa_arid-37104.html
Well the story going around was that it involved Roma....who obviously wouldn't be seeking Intl protection
I didn't see anyone claiming that it involved someone seeking international protection
So the Roscommon Herald are denying something that was never being said in the first place
Interesting tactic
The anti-migrant migrant has spoken...
So based on your response, I assume the story about the assault involving Roma is true....thanks for clarifying
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 09:13:35 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 09:10:19 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 09:07:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2024, 08:58:21 PMhttps://www.roscommonherald.ie/news/investigation-into-alleged-assault-on-minor-in-ballagh-does-not-involve-anyone-seeking-internationa_arid-37104.html
Well the story going around was that it involved Roma....who obviously wouldn't be seeking Intl protection
I didn't see anyone claiming that it involved someone seeking international protection
So the Roscommon Herald are denying something that was never being said in the first place
Interesting tactic
The anti-migrant migrant has spoken...
So based on your response, I assume the story about the assault involving Roma is true....thanks for clarifying
My response is clarifying that you have quite an agenda against migrants which is somewhat ironic as you are a migrant 🤷
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 09:07:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2024, 08:58:21 PMhttps://www.roscommonherald.ie/news/investigation-into-alleged-assault-on-minor-in-ballagh-does-not-involve-anyone-seeking-internationa_arid-37104.html
Well the story going around was that it involved Roma....who obviously wouldn't be seeking Intl protection
I didn't see anyone claiming that it involved someone seeking international protection
So the Roscommon Herald are denying something that was never being said in the first place
Interesting tactic
An Garda Síochána denying it and the Roscommon Herald reporting on what they said.
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 04, 2024, 09:35:32 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 09:07:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2024, 08:58:21 PMhttps://www.roscommonherald.ie/news/investigation-into-alleged-assault-on-minor-in-ballagh-does-not-involve-anyone-seeking-internationa_arid-37104.html
Well the story going around was that it involved Roma....who obviously wouldn't be seeking Intl protection
I didn't see anyone claiming that it involved someone seeking international protection
So the Garda Siochana are denying something that was never being said in the first place
Interesting tactic
An Garda Síochána denying it and the Roscommon Herald reporting on what they said.
What's RTE's take on the events?
As usual the main story here isn't about the victim
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 09:21:17 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 09:13:35 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 09:10:19 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 09:07:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2024, 08:58:21 PMhttps://www.roscommonherald.ie/news/investigation-into-alleged-assault-on-minor-in-ballagh-does-not-involve-anyone-seeking-internationa_arid-37104.html
Well the story going around was that it involved Roma....who obviously wouldn't be seeking Intl protection
I didn't see anyone claiming that it involved someone seeking international protection
So the Roscommon Herald are denying something that was never being said in the first place
Interesting tactic
The anti-migrant migrant has spoken...
So based on your response, I assume the story about the assault involving Roma is true....thanks for clarifying
My response is clarifying that you have quite an agenda against migrants which is somewhat ironic as you are a migrant 🤷
I have an agenda against criminals and economic migrants/welfare scammers posing as genuine asylum seekers
Will you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Is this one getting sent back at the end of his sentence ?
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-jailed-after-woman-left-in-critical-hypothermic-state-following-rape-in-random-attack-in-cork-1689269.html
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:05:47 PMAs usual the main story here isn't about the victim
The usual when Far right Irish freedom and Ireland First party members get word of any story and continue to show themselves as attention seeking gobshites.
There is a b*****d(s) (described as 'white') with a knife attacking women in Derry. Not a word about it from Whitey and his racist cohorts here. Their's is not about empathy for the victims but whipping up racist hatred.
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 10:43:13 PMThere is a b*****d(s) (described as 'white') with a knife attacking women in Derry. Not a word about it from Whitey and his racist cohorts here. Their's is not about empathy for the victims but whipping up racist hatred.
Lol
The old "seeing as we have our own Irish born criminals we shouldn't get on our high horse admitting additional foreign born criminals" argument
Makes perfect sense
Quote from: Kidder81 on November 04, 2024, 10:28:01 PMIs this one getting sent back at the end of his sentence ?
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-jailed-after-woman-left-in-critical-hypothermic-state-following-rape-in-random-attack-in-cork-1689269.html
Did you miss this case?
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1104/1479047-central-criminal-court/
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:49:19 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 10:43:13 PMThere is a b*****d(s) (described as 'white') with a knife attacking women in Derry. Not a word about it from Whitey and his racist cohorts here. Their's is not about empathy for the victims but whipping up racist hatred.
Lol
The old "seeing as we have our own Irish born criminals we shouldn't get on our high horse admitting additional foreign born criminals" argument
Makes perfect sense
Just wondering why you haven't condemned these attacks... its not like they haven't been highly publicised.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/derry-manhunt-continues-after-weekend-30295221.amp
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 10:57:07 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:49:19 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 10:43:13 PMThere is a b*****d(s) (described as 'white') with a knife attacking women in Derry. Not a word about it from Whitey and his racist cohorts here. Their's is not about empathy for the victims but whipping up racist hatred.
Lol
The old "seeing as we have our own Irish born criminals we shouldn't get on our high horse admitting additional foreign born criminals" argument
Makes perfect sense
Just wondering why you haven't condemned these attacks... its not like they haven't been highly publicised.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/derry-manhunt-continues-after-weekend-30295221.amp
How do you know I havent condemned them?
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:14:52 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 10:57:07 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:49:19 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 10:43:13 PMThere is a b*****d(s) (described as 'white') with a knife attacking women in Derry. Not a word about it from Whitey and his racist cohorts here. Their's is not about empathy for the victims but whipping up racist hatred.
Lol
The old "seeing as we have our own Irish born criminals we shouldn't get on our high horse admitting additional foreign born criminals" argument
Makes perfect sense
Just wondering why you haven't condemned these attacks... its not like they haven't been highly publicised.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/derry-manhunt-continues-after-weekend-30295221.amp
How do you know I havent condemned them?
I must have missed that post...
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
Like you give a fuc about an Irish teenager sitting on your keyboard in America trying to whip up racist hatred here... it is so obvious what you're about
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 11:50:36 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
Like you give a fuc about an Irish teenager sitting on your keyboard in America trying to whip up racist hatred here...
As an Irish citizen....Im perfectly entitled to opine on whats happening in my home country. Last time i checked this was a "discussion board". Maybe we should rename it the "Irish virtue signaling board"
If the moderators think I'm whipping up racist hatred....I'm sure they'll ban me
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:58:20 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 04, 2024, 11:50:36 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
Like you give a fuc about an Irish teenager sitting on your keyboard in America trying to whip up racist hatred here...
As an Irish citizen....Im perfectly entitled to opine on whats happening in my home country. Last time i checked this was a "discussion board". Maybe we should rename it the "Irish virtue signaling board"
If the moderators think I'm whipping up racist hatred....I'm sure they'll ban me
Yeah I've been surprised they haven't before now. You're selective in your choice of attacks to condemn as in ignoring those attacks in Derry. Obviously it's not the welfare of victims is your concern...
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
He/she just can't help him/herself.
The racism is so ingrained....
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So you'd have no problem with illegal immigrants in Ireland so long as they're grafting away and keeping their nose clean? (Economic migrants, paid in cash, paying no taxes).
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So breaking the law is being illegally in a country without permission, you do know that? I don't need to spell that out? And if you are a law biding citizen you'd be up for making sure they are picked up and booted home
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 10:54:11 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So breaking the law is being illegally in a country without permission, you do know that? I don't need to spell that out? And if you are a law biding citizen you'd be up for making sure they are picked up and booted home
Again. What does this have to do with the alleged (gang) rape of an Irish teenager by (alleged) Roma who came to Ireland to avail of an overly generous taxpayer funded welfare
LOL-and you are actually paying for these people to come into your country!
Bizzare that you're expressing solidarity with them
70 years of having the Orangeman's boot on your neck seems to have inflicted some really serious psychological damage
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
and what if they werent on welfare? Youd be ok with that
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 11:44:50 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 10:54:11 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So breaking the law is being illegally in a country without permission, you do know that? I don't need to spell that out? And if you are a law biding citizen you'd be up for making sure they are picked up and booted home
Again. What does this have to do with the alleged (gang) rape of an Irish teenager by (alleged) Roma who came to Ireland to avail of an overly generous taxpayer funded welfare
LOL-and you are actually paying for these people to come into your country!
Bizzare that you're expressing solidarity with them
70 years of having the Orangeman's boot on your neck seems to have inflicted some really serious psychological damage
Please share any of my posts that show solidarity with what you are spewing here?
You have avoided answering the question because you know of illegals and are completely two faced on the subject. Again not surprising as you do come across like that.
As for the other stuff you are putting up, let the courts deal with it, if they are legally here then the court system will deal with them as they would with any locals. Should it be any different?
You are the one banging on about illegals all the time on this thread, so that's what its got to do, but you fail to answer any questions about Irish illegals breaking the law daily in the US
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 12:27:38 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 11:44:50 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 10:54:11 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So breaking the law is being illegally in a country without permission, you do know that? I don't need to spell that out? And if you are a law biding citizen you'd be up for making sure they are picked up and booted home
Again. What does this have to do with the alleged (gang) rape of an Irish teenager by (alleged) Roma who came to Ireland to avail of an overly generous taxpayer funded welfare
LOL-and you are actually paying for these people to come into your country!
Bizzare that you're expressing solidarity with them
70 years of having the Orangeman's boot on your neck seems to have inflicted some really serious psychological damage
Please share any of my posts that show solidarity with what you are spewing here?
You have avoided answering the question because you know of illegals and are completely two faced on the subject. Again not surprising as you do come across like that.
As for the other stuff you are putting up, let the courts deal with it, if they are legally here then the court system will deal with them as they would with any locals. Should it be any different?
You are the one banging on about illegals all the time on this thread, so that's what its got to do, but you fail to answer any questions about Irish illegals breaking the law daily in the US
Keep deflecting
What Irish illegals do or don't do in the US is irrelevant
But if it makes you feel morally superior-knock yourself out and keep on harping about it. You're only codding yourself
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 12:39:15 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 12:27:38 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 11:44:50 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 10:54:11 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So breaking the law is being illegally in a country without permission, you do know that? I don't need to spell that out? And if you are a law biding citizen you'd be up for making sure they are picked up and booted home
Again. What does this have to do with the alleged (gang) rape of an Irish teenager by (alleged) Roma who came to Ireland to avail of an overly generous taxpayer funded welfare
LOL-and you are actually paying for these people to come into your country!
Bizzare that you're expressing solidarity with them
70 years of having the Orangeman's boot on your neck seems to have inflicted some really serious psychological damage
Please share any of my posts that show solidarity with what you are spewing here?
You have avoided answering the question because you know of illegals and are completely two faced on the subject. Again not surprising as you do come across like that.
As for the other stuff you are putting up, let the courts deal with it, if they are legally here then the court system will deal with them as they would with any locals. Should it be any different?
You are the one banging on about illegals all the time on this thread, so that's what its got to do, but you fail to answer any questions about Irish illegals breaking the law daily in the US
Keep deflecting
What Irish illegals do or don't do in the US is irrelevant
But if it makes you feel morally superior-knock yourself out and keep on harping about it. You're only codding yourself
There is no deflecting, you are the one that's avoiding things. Must have have a few buddies that are breaking the law every day by being there, as you are very defensive of illegal immigrants (when it suits you)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 12:44:35 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 12:39:15 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 12:27:38 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 11:44:50 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 10:54:11 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So breaking the law is being illegally in a country without permission, you do know that? I don't need to spell that out? And if you are a law biding citizen you'd be up for making sure they are picked up and booted home
Again. What does this have to do with the alleged (gang) rape of an Irish teenager by (alleged) Roma who came to Ireland to avail of an overly generous taxpayer funded welfare
LOL-and you are actually paying for these people to come into your country!
Bizzare that you're expressing solidarity with them
70 years of having the Orangeman's boot on your neck seems to have inflicted some really serious psychological damage
Please share any of my posts that show solidarity with what you are spewing here?
You have avoided answering the question because you know of illegals and are completely two faced on the subject. Again not surprising as you do come across like that.
As for the other stuff you are putting up, let the courts deal with it, if they are legally here then the court system will deal with them as they would with any locals. Should it be any different?
You are the one banging on about illegals all the time on this thread, so that's what its got to do, but you fail to answer any questions about Irish illegals breaking the law daily in the US
Keep deflecting
What Irish illegals do or don't do in the US is irrelevant
But if it makes you feel morally superior-knock yourself out and keep on harping about it. You're only codding yourself
There is no deflecting, you are the one that's avoiding things. Must have have a few buddies that are breaking the law every day by being there, as you are very defensive of illegal immigrants (when it suits you)
Great
Congratulations you get a gold star for todays exercise in virtue signaling
Sit at the top of the clas
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/leo-varadkar-says-immigration-to-ireland-grew-too-fast-as-labour-leader-labels-comments-new-low/a306203290.html
Found another far right bogey-man for you
The whitey view is that illegal law breaking Irish people in the US are simply "undocumented" as if they forgot to fill in some oul form or other.
Others (Spanish speaking, black, brown, Muslim especially) are dirty dangerous criminals and have to be ran to fk. Also they are "endangering democracy" according to whitey him/herself.
And no foreigners should be let into Ireland (presumably white English speaking ones are ok).
Quote from: Rossfan on November 05, 2024, 02:38:37 PMThe whitey view is that illegal law breaking Irish people in the US are simply "undocumented" as if they forgot to fill in some oul form or other.
Others (Spanish speaking, black, brown, Muslim especially) are dirty dangerous criminals and have to be ran to fk. Also they are "endangering democracy" according to whitey him/herself.
And no foreigners should be let into Ireland (presumably white English speaking ones are ok).
A minor was allegedly raped by some foreign welfare tourists in your home county and this is what you're worried about
Congratulations
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:08:26 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 05, 2024, 02:38:37 PMThe whitey view is that illegal law breaking Irish people in the US are simply "undocumented" as if they forgot to fill in some oul form or other.
Others (Spanish speaking, black, brown, Muslim especially) are dirty dangerous criminals and have to be ran to fk. Also they are "endangering democracy" according to whitey him/herself.
And no foreigners should be let into Ireland (presumably white English speaking ones are ok).
A minor was allegedly raped by some foreign welfare tourists in your home county and this is what you're worried about
Congratulations
All crimes, and I've not heard anyone say what's happened is wrong, but its seems that you are more concerned with who has done it rather than the victim, you don't give a hoot about them, just who has carried it out. That' pretty sad
That's his modus operandi... find a henious crime and if its not committed by a migrant move on... if it is then act all concerned about what's happened but really is nothing to do with empathy for victims rather is typical Trump-like racism. The clue is in the name: Whitey.
Hence was no comment in recent days on sex attacks in Derry where the suspect is 'white'.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 03:18:29 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:08:26 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 05, 2024, 02:38:37 PMThe whitey view is that illegal law breaking Irish people in the US are simply "undocumented" as if they forgot to fill in some oul form or other.
Others (Spanish speaking, black, brown, Muslim especially) are dirty dangerous criminals and have to be ran to fk. Also they are "endangering democracy" according to whitey him/herself.
And no foreigners should be let into Ireland (presumably white English speaking ones are ok).
A minor was allegedly raped by some foreign welfare tourists in your home county and this is what you're worried about
Congratulations
All crimes, and I've not heard anyone say what's happened is wrong, but its seems that you are more concerned with who has done it rather than the victim, you don't give a hoot about them, just who has carried it out. That' pretty sad
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How do you know who and what I'm concerned and not concerned with?
The perpetual self congratulatory "I'm on the side of the oppressed" shtick posted by the likes of yourself on here is actually comical.
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:27:27 PMThat's his modus operandi... find a henious crime and if its not committed by a migrant move on... if it is then act all concerned about what's happened but really is nothing to do with empathy for victims rather is typical Trump like racism. The clue is in the name: Whitey.
So Tossfan was taking a victory lap for wokeism, when he shared that the Guards/Roscommon Herald stated that the suspects in the gang rape of a minor were not International Protection Applicants.
What he didn't share is that the alleged suspects are actually Roma welfare migrants drawn to Ireland by overly generous welfare benefits
Now as an Irish citizen-I'm offended by that
Maybe you aren't
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:33:03 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:27:27 PMThat's his modus operandi... find a henious crime and if its not committed by a migrant move on... if it is then act all concerned about what's happened but really is nothing to do with empathy for victims rather is typical Trump like racism. The clue is in the name: Whitey.
So Tossfan was taking a victory lap for wokeism, when he shared that the Guards/Roscommon Herald stated that the suspects in the gang rape of a minor were not International Protection Applicants.
What he didn't share is that the alleged suspects are actually Roma welfare migrants drawn to Ireland by overly generous welfare benefits
Now as an Irish citizen-I'm offended by that
Maybe you aren't
But not offended by recent sex attacks by a 'white man' in Derry where women are terrified... it is something you comment on a lot (when it's migrants or alleged to be migrants). Do you think us Irish are stupid?
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:38:36 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:33:03 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:27:27 PMThat's his modus operandi... find a henious crime and if its not committed by a migrant move on... if it is then act all concerned about what's happened but really is nothing to do with empathy for victims rather is typical Trump like racism. The clue is in the name: Whitey.
So Tossfan was taking a victory lap for wokeism, when he shared that the Guards/Roscommon Herald stated that the suspects in the gang rape of a minor were not International Protection Applicants.
What he didn't share is that the alleged suspects are actually Roma welfare migrants drawn to Ireland by overly generous welfare benefits
Now as an Irish citizen-I'm offended by that
Maybe you aren't
But not offended by recent sex attacks by a 'white man' in Derry where women are terrified... it is something you comment on a lot (when it's migrants or alleged to be migrants). Do you think us Irish are stupid?
Is that a rhetorical question?
When crimes are committed by people who (probably/possibly) shouldn't even be in the country to begin with-those crimes do and should create more outrage because they are 100% avoidable.
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:45:11 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:38:36 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:33:03 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:27:27 PMThat's his modus operandi... find a henious crime and if its not committed by a migrant move on... if it is then act all concerned about what's happened but really is nothing to do with empathy for victims rather is typical Trump like racism. The clue is in the name: Whitey.
So Tossfan was taking a victory lap for wokeism, when he shared that the Guards/Roscommon Herald stated that the suspects in the gang rape of a minor were not International Protection Applicants.
What he didn't share is that the alleged suspects are actually Roma welfare migrants drawn to Ireland by overly generous welfare benefits
Now as an Irish citizen-I'm offended by that
Maybe you aren't
But not offended by recent sex attacks by a 'white man' in Derry where women are terrified... it is something you comment on a lot (when it's migrants or alleged to be migrants). Do you think us Irish are stupid?
Is that a rhetorical question?
When crimes are committed by people who (probably/possibly) shouldn't even be in the country to begin with-those crimes do and should create more outrage because they are 100% avoidable.
you are making stuff up, you don't know whether they are legally here or not, thats not your concern. Just what colour are they..
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 04:03:20 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:45:11 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:38:36 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:33:03 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:27:27 PMThat's his modus operandi... find a henious crime and if its not committed by a migrant move on... if it is then act all concerned about what's happened but really is nothing to do with empathy for victims rather is typical Trump like racism. The clue is in the name: Whitey.
So Tossfan was taking a victory lap for wokeism, when he shared that the Guards/Roscommon Herald stated that the suspects in the gang rape of a minor were not International Protection Applicants.
What he didn't share is that the alleged suspects are actually Roma welfare migrants drawn to Ireland by overly generous welfare benefits
Now as an Irish citizen-I'm offended by that
Maybe you aren't
But not offended by recent sex attacks by a 'white man' in Derry where women are terrified... it is something you comment on a lot (when it's migrants or alleged to be migrants). Do you think us Irish are stupid?
Is that a rhetorical question?
When crimes are committed by people who (probably/possibly) shouldn't even be in the country to begin with-those crimes do and should create more outrage because they are 100% avoidable.
you are making stuff up, you don't know whether they are legally here or not, thats not your concern. Just what colour are they..
So is Leo Varadkar a racist for what he said earlier this year about letting too many people in
If they're Roma they're here legally
Question is why did they come?
What policies did the government enact that entice them to come to a country they have no connection to?
Emigration/Migration/Immigration are impacted by elements of push and pull and Ireland has definitely done a lot of pulling
But I need to remind myself that I'm dealing with supporters of open borders
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:45:11 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:38:36 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:33:03 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:27:27 PMThat's his modus operandi... find a henious crime and if its not committed by a migrant move on... if it is then act all concerned about what's happened but really is nothing to do with empathy for victims rather is typical Trump like racism. The clue is in the name: Whitey.
So Tossfan was taking a victory lap for wokeism, when he shared that the Guards/Roscommon Herald stated that the suspects in the gang rape of a minor were not International Protection Applicants.
What he didn't share is that the alleged suspects are actually Roma welfare migrants drawn to Ireland by overly generous welfare benefits
Now as an Irish citizen-I'm offended by that
Maybe you aren't
But not offended by recent sex attacks by a 'white man' in Derry where women are terrified... it is something you comment on a lot (when it's migrants or alleged to be migrants). Do you think us Irish are stupid?
Is that a rhetorical question?
When crimes are committed by people who (probably/possibly) shouldn't even be in the country to begin with-those crimes do and should create more outrage because they are 100% avoidable.
'More outrage'.. is not as bad if our own are attacking women in Derry? Ok.
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:33:03 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:27:27 PMThat's his modus operandi... find a henious crime and if its not committed by a migrant move on... if it is then act all concerned about what's happened but really is nothing to do with empathy for victims rather is typical Trump like racism. The clue is in the name: Whitey.
So Tossfan was taking a victory lap for wokeism, when he shared that the Guards/Roscommon Herald stated that the suspects in the gang rape of a minor were not International Protection Applicants.
What he didn't share is that the alleged suspects are actually Roma welfare migrants drawn to Ireland by overly generous welfare benefits
Now as an Irish citizen-I'm offended by that
Maybe you aren't
The issue is that when the far right come to town they make it about all refugees, which is why the Gardai had to release that statement. There's a shocking amount abuse of the people of Ballaghaderreen by the far right, calling them in-breds for jeering Dwyer and co. I grew up in Ballagh, family still lives there, and they are the most salt of the earth people you could find. Yes, we did have our arguments about football (Ros, Mayos, Sligo and sundry blow-ins) but we always supported each other. Ballagh stepped up to look after Syrian refugees. The real issue is the lack of investment in resources for the town. I remember when the Syrians first came to town, the poor kideens who had escaped terrible conditions were so delighted to play in the one slide tiny little playground in the old sportsgrounds and my kids and other locals played with them. That's humanity. What Dwyer and co are bringing is hate. And the people of Ballagh are not a hateful people.
They certainly put that Fascist tr**p in his box.
Quote from: weareros on November 05, 2024, 04:33:13 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:33:03 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:27:27 PMThat's his modus operandi... find a henious crime and if its not committed by a migrant move on... if it is then act all concerned about what's happened but really is nothing to do with empathy for victims rather is typical Trump like racism. The clue is in the name: Whitey.
So Tossfan was taking a victory lap for wokeism, when he shared that the Guards/Roscommon Herald stated that the suspects in the gang rape of a minor were not International Protection Applicants.
What he didn't share is that the alleged suspects are actually Roma welfare migrants drawn to Ireland by overly generous welfare benefits
Now as an Irish citizen-I'm offended by that
Maybe you aren't
The issue is that when the far right come to town they make it about all refugees, which is why the Gardai had to release that statement. There's a shocking amount abuse of the people of Ballaghaderreen by the far right, calling them in-breds for jeering Dwyer and co. I grew up in Ballagh, family still lives there, and they are the most salt of the earth people you could find. Yes, we did have our arguments about football (Ros, Mayos, Sligo and sundry blow-ins) but we always supported each other. Ballagh stepped up to look after Syrian refugees. The real issue is the lack of investment in resources for the town. I remember when the Syrians first came to town, the poor kideens who had escaped terrible conditions were so delighted to play in the one slide tiny little playground in the old sportsgrounds and my kids and other locals played with them. That's humanity. What Dwyer and co are bringing is hate. And the people of Ballagh are not a hateful people.
I don't ever recall one word being spoken by anyone against the Syrians (and I have MidWest on 24/7)
But they were legit refugees who were fully vetted and fleeing an actual war
Unfortunately (for them) some became Mayo fans
Never heard a bad word spoken about any of the the Pakistanis who are big employers in the town. And a Pakistani lad is one of the best footballers in the town and won an AI U 21 with Mayo
There are bad people in all walks of life.
But speaking out about or highlighting the fact that bad government policies have encouraged undesirables to migrate to Ireland does not make one far right (unless your a proponent of open borders)
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 04:54:20 PMQuote from: weareros on November 05, 2024, 04:33:13 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:33:03 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2024, 03:27:27 PMThat's his modus operandi... find a henious crime and if its not committed by a migrant move on... if it is then act all concerned about what's happened but really is nothing to do with empathy for victims rather is typical Trump like racism. The clue is in the name: Whitey.
So Tossfan was taking a victory lap for wokeism, when he shared that the Guards/Roscommon Herald stated that the suspects in the gang rape of a minor were not International Protection Applicants.
What he didn't share is that the alleged suspects are actually Roma welfare migrants drawn to Ireland by overly generous welfare benefits
Now as an Irish citizen-I'm offended by that
Maybe you aren't
The issue is that when the far right come to town they make it about all refugees, which is why the Gardai had to release that statement. There's a shocking amount abuse of the people of Ballaghaderreen by the far right, calling them in-breds for jeering Dwyer and co. I grew up in Ballagh, family still lives there, and they are the most salt of the earth people you could find. Yes, we did have our arguments about football (Ros, Mayos, Sligo and sundry blow-ins) but we always supported each other. Ballagh stepped up to look after Syrian refugees. The real issue is the lack of investment in resources for the town. I remember when the Syrians first came to town, the poor kideens who had escaped terrible conditions were so delighted to play in the one slide tiny little playground in the old sportsgrounds and my kids and other locals played with them. That's humanity. What Dwyer and co are bringing is hate. And the people of Ballagh are not a hateful people.
I don't ever recall one word being spoken by anyone against the Syrians (and I have MidWest on 24/7)
But they were legit refugees who were fully vetted and fleeing an actual war
Unfortunately (for them) some became Mayo fans
Never heard a bad word spoken about any of the the Pakistanis who are big employers in the town. And a Pakistani lad is one of the best footballers in the town and won an AI U 21 with Mayo
There are bad people in all walks of life.
But speaking out about or highlighting the fact that bad government policies have encouraged undesirables to migrate to Ireland does not make one far right (unless your a proponent of open borders)
Don't disagree with the top part of your posts there at all. New arrivals have given the town a spark of life in many ways, particular around sport. When I say Far Right, I mean the agitators who came into town trying to stir up division, and then got the land of their lives when the local people did not want them there. They are now experts on X about Ballagh, and most of them can neither spell nor pronounce the town in English or Irish.
None of those self declared "super patriots" can speak 2 words of Gaeilge.
I don't do that X thing but can imagine the kind of sh1te they'd be posting.
Dryer no doubt thought he had found the perfect town to start stirring their brand of hate and obviously got a major land when he was told to get lost.
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 05, 2024, 10:44:44 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So you'd have no problem with illegal immigrants in Ireland so long as they're grafting away and keeping their nose clean? (Economic migrants, paid in cash, paying no taxes).
Fair play if they are.
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 05, 2024, 10:05:40 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on November 05, 2024, 10:44:44 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So you'd have no problem with illegal immigrants in Ireland so long as they're grafting away and keeping their nose clean? (Economic migrants, paid in cash, paying no taxes).
Fair play if they are.
Ditto. Some have come from awful situations and 100s of 1000s of Irish did same in America. On a wee holiday and stayed on illegally...
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 11:44:50 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 10:54:11 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So breaking the law is being illegally in a country without permission, you do know that? I don't need to spell that out? And if you are a law biding citizen you'd be up for making sure they are picked up and booted home
Again. What does this have to do with the alleged (gang) rape of an Irish teenager by (alleged) Roma who came to Ireland to avail of an overly generous taxpayer funded welfare
LOL-and you are actually paying for these people to come into your country!
Bizzare that you're expressing solidarity with them
70 years of having the Orangeman's boot on your neck seems to have inflicted some really serious psychological damage
Maybe don't get your news from Philip Dwyer.
The Gardaí have already released a statement about misinformation around this case.
It looks like it was possibly consensual activity between an underage roma and underage traveller.
Quote from: Tubberman on November 06, 2024, 08:31:12 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 11:44:50 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 10:54:11 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 10:17:51 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2024, 07:25:00 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 11:35:06 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:47:14 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2024, 10:12:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2024, 10:07:22 PMWill you be touting on you're fellow Irishmen without the proper documentation?
I wouldn't tout on anyone but if Irish people of are breaking the law I would expect law enforcement to treat them no differently to other law breakers
Breaking the law like living in a country illegally?
So a group of Roma allegedly gang raped an Irish teenager in the West of Ireland and you're response is youre worried about what Irish illegals are doing 3,000 miles away in the United States
Makes perfect sense
It's a simple enough question, even for your tiny brain to answer.
You are the one with problems on immigration
If the Irish illegals in the US were on welfare and allegedly involved in the rape of a minor, yes....I would have a problem with that
So breaking the law is being illegally in a country without permission, you do know that? I don't need to spell that out? And if you are a law biding citizen you'd be up for making sure they are picked up and booted home
Again. What does this have to do with the alleged (gang) rape of an Irish teenager by (alleged) Roma who came to Ireland to avail of an overly generous taxpayer funded welfare
LOL-and you are actually paying for these people to come into your country!
Bizzare that you're expressing solidarity with them
70 years of having the Orangeman's boot on your neck seems to have inflicted some really serious psychological damage
Maybe don't get your news from Philip Dwyer.
The Gardaí have already released a statement about misinformation around this case.
It looks like it was possibly consensual activity between an underage roma and underage traveller.
Disappointment for Whitey... and looks like the Derry attacker is also a 'white'y so be nothing to get outraged about there either...
The truth getting in the way again. ::)
More bad news for the nazifascists
https://www.shannonside.ie/news/250-new-jobs-announced-at-leitrim-medtech-company-252501
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:08:26 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 05, 2024, 02:38:37 PMThe whitey view is that illegal law breaking Irish people in the US are simply "undocumented" as if they forgot to fill in some oul form or other.
Others (Spanish speaking, black, brown, Muslim especially) are dirty dangerous criminals and have to be ran to fk. Also they are "endangering democracy" according to whitey him/herself.
And no foreigners should be let into Ireland (presumably white English speaking ones are ok).
A minor was allegedly raped by some foreign welfare tourists in your home county and this is what you're worried about
Congratulations
What a complete idiot you look now
Quote from: ShutterinbyDayGAAbyNight on November 07, 2024, 10:22:07 AMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2024, 03:08:26 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 05, 2024, 02:38:37 PMThe whitey view is that illegal law breaking Irish people in the US are simply "undocumented" as if they forgot to fill in some oul form or other.
Others (Spanish speaking, black, brown, Muslim especially) are dirty dangerous criminals and have to be ran to fk. Also they are "endangering democracy" according to whitey him/herself.
And no foreigners should be let into Ireland (presumably white English speaking ones are ok).
A minor was allegedly raped by some foreign welfare tourists in your home county and this is what you're worried about
Congratulations
What a complete idiot you look now
Water off a ducks back, not one f**k given, Trump will get rid of a few of his Irish mates that have been breaking the law
every day they have stayed there without the correct documentation
It was great to see him/her making a right oul xenophobic racist floot out of him/herself ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2024, 12:54:44 PMIt was great to see him/her making a right oul xenophobic racist floot out of him/herself ;D
Haha
You're going out to work every day and paying taxes that are subsidizing welfare for Roma Gypsies and other welfare tourists
If you guys are looking for fools....start by taking a look in the mirroe
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2024, 02:36:38 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2024, 12:54:44 PMIt was great to see him/her making a right oul xenophobic racist floot out of him/herself ;D
Haha
You're going out to work every day and paying taxes that are subsidizing welfare for Roma Gypsies and other welfare tourists
If you guys are looking for fools....start by taking a look in the mirroe
Mirroe? White man: Cut from the same cloth as Bryson. A bigoted maggot, never admits to being wrong even when proven wrong and sneers at anyone with a different viewpoint.
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2024, 02:36:38 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2024, 12:54:44 PMIt was great to see him/her making a right oul xenophobic racist floot out of him/herself ;D
Haha
You're going out to work every day and paying taxes that are subsidizing welfare for Roma Gypsies and other welfare tourists
If you guys are looking for fools....start by taking a look in the mirroe
How much you paying taxes to look after 11 million illegal immigrants? ;D
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2024, 06:22:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2024, 02:36:38 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2024, 12:54:44 PMIt was great to see him/her making a right oul xenophobic racist floot out of him/herself ;D
Haha
You're going out to work every day and paying taxes that are subsidizing welfare for Roma Gypsies and other welfare tourists
If you guys are looking for fools....start by taking a look in the mirroe
How much you paying taxes to look after 11 million illegal immigrants? ;D
I'm paying it under protest/
You are paying it willingly
Im in favor of greatly reducing the amount
You are in favor of greatly increasing the amount (through your support of open borders and nauseous virtue signaling )
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2024, 08:58:40 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2024, 06:22:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2024, 02:36:38 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2024, 12:54:44 PMIt was great to see him/her making a right oul xenophobic racist floot out of him/herself ;D
Haha
You're going out to work every day and paying taxes that are subsidizing welfare for Roma Gypsies and other welfare tourists
If you guys are looking for fools....start by taking a look in the mirroe
How much you paying taxes to look after 11 million illegal immigrants? ;D
I'm paying it under protest/
You are paying it willingly
Im in favor of greatly reducing the amount
You are in favor of greatly increasing the amount (through your support of open borders and nauseous virtue signaling )
I'm paying it under protest ;D
You are a nob and continue to be shown to be a nob with all your posts
I'm happy to take in refugee's over you any day of the week. You are filth
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2024, 11:50:28 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2024, 08:58:40 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2024, 06:22:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2024, 02:36:38 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2024, 12:54:44 PMIt was great to see him/her making a right oul xenophobic racist floot out of him/herself ;D
Haha
You're going out to work every day and paying taxes that are subsidizing welfare for Roma Gypsies and other welfare tourists
If you guys are looking for fools....start by taking a look in the mirroe
How much you paying taxes to look after 11 million illegal immigrants? ;D
I'm paying it under protest/
You are paying it willingly
Im in favor of greatly reducing the amount
You are in favor of greatly increasing the amount (through your support of open borders and nauseous virtue signaling )
I'm paying it under protest ;D
You are a nob and continue to be shown to be a nob with all your posts
I'm happy to take in refugee's over you any day of the week. You are filth
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2024/01/24/wife-and-two-brothers-of-jozef-puska-to-go-on-trial-in-2025-accused-of-failing-to-disclose-information-to-gardai/
Maybe you could take these poor crathurs in?
People* come here,they get jobs, they pay PAYE, PRSI, USC,VAT, Rent/mortgages, buy stuff etc etc.
*
1- From the neighbouring island or the EU;
2 via work permits/visas;
3 - as IP applicants.
All LEGAL.
Any public money spent on accommodation for 3 stays in the Economy.
There are allegations that some people are here illegally.
Some estimates around 16,000. Most of those probably trafficked for Prostitution and grow houses.
They get no State assistance as they legally don't exist.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcC44xfWkAA53SM?format=jpg&name=small)
Ballaghaderreen and the strangely coded way we discuss crime now
November 4, 2024 Niamh Uí Bhriain GRIPT
A serious assault on a 15-year-old boy allegedly took place in Ballaghaderreen in Co Roscommon last week. The story has been curiously absent from almost all of national media reporting, who seem otherwise occupied with criminal damage to Minister Roderic O'Gorman's clipboard.
This article is not about the assault in Ballaghaderreen, though locals are horrified at the nature of what is said to have happened, because a Garda investigation is ongoing and until the facts are confirmed there is little point in speculation or engaging in any actions that might, in fact, jeopardise a trial.
But what has taken place both before and since the night the assault happened has highlighted something different: the strangely coded way we now discuss rising crime and social disorder in relation to immigration.
Despite the opinion polls which show an overwhelming majority of people feel that Ireland has taken in too many migrants, its evident that, especially when a microphone or camera is in front of them, Irish people are nervous about how their views might be perceived. Much of this is likely due to the plethora of NGOs and political and/or media commentators who are always ready to pounce with shrieks of 'racism' and 'misinformation' on any suggestion that locals might feel concerned regarding large numbers of strangers, often men, being foisted on towns or villages or already-stretched urban communities.
This desire to curtail speech, and to dictate that some truths cannot be expressed aloud, comes from the top down, and is lapped up by a compliant and ideologically-captured media. When the independent TD Carol Nolan, for example, pointed out an obvious truth in the Dáil regarding Ireland's inability to take unlimited numbers of refugees, she was denounced by Minister Darragh O'Brien as being a threat to social cohesion, when, of course, what has transpired is that the government's reckless and idiotic policies in regard to migration has actually had that effect.
There are many, many other such examples, such as the Junior Minister Joe O'Brien of the Greens accusing people who opposed asylum accommodation centres of racism, and the steady drumbeat of accusations from groups like the Immigrant Council or the Institute of Strategic Dialogue. When the establishment is out to chase you with a big stick for stating the obvious, people learnt to speak in code.
So to Ballaghaderreen where a large crowd of people marched last Sunday to demand that the Garda station in the town be open on a continuous basis, and that more Gardaí be stationed to deal with rising crime in the area.
The situation has been deteriorating for some time, apparently. In 2022, the Roscommon Leader Partnership wrote to the Joint Policing Committee with details of a rise in anti-social behaviour, incidents of indecent exposure as well as volatile situations at local homes, with a local Councillor saying more Garda resources were needed in the town to tackle an increase in crime due to an "influx of people living in the area".
In the excellent and comprehensive news reports by Shannonside on the issue from last Sunday this increase in population was referred to repeatedly by locals, but no-one seemed to want to say out loud what had caused the rise in numbers living in the town, which, as we will see, is not caused by large crowds arriving from Leitrim or estates being packed up by gangs of Dubs.
"The population of the town has increased by, I think 30%, over the last couple of years," one woman at the protest said.
"Too many crimes," one woman told Shannonside, including crimes that "no-one talked about". She said that things had got much worse with the "rise in population in Ballaghaderreen". Another woman said the town was changing and that young people no longer felt safe.
Sharon Byrne-Murphy said that the Concerned Citizens group was established because of concerns about the "over population" of the town and "the lack of resources for the people that are already here".
She said that the town was witnessing an "ever-increasing" rise in the population and said: "obviously with that in any community there's going to be be an increased incidence of crime and anti-social behaviour". She added that there was a real sense of fear in the community, which had been "bubbling away in the background for a while", and that women were now afraid to go out walking, pointing to "the vandalism, the dumping, the general anti-social behaviour" in the town.
So what has led to the surge in population in Ballaghaderreen? As you might have guessed, given the previous depletion of rural Ireland and our falling birth rate, the rise is numbers is largely due to immigration.
In 2016, the population of the town was around 1,800 and had been at that level for around a decade. The 2022 census showed that number soaring to 2,387, an increase of 32% in just 4 years. That same census shows that 39% of the population of the town was not born there. In relative terms these are enormous changes.
240 Syrian refugees arrived in Ballaghaderreen in 2017, an event which prompted a TV3 documentary on local efforts to welcome the newcomers called Ireland's Refugee Hotel: True Lives. The Census and reports from local people also indicates large numbers of Roma and some Eastern Europeans have moved to the town. Help and additional resources were promised by the government, but very little arrived, locals say.
The strain began to tell on the town, described by local TD Claire Kerrane as "the most economically and socially deprived town in County Roscommon".
She said the population increased substantially, from 2017 onwards, as "about 400 refugees and international protection families and individuals" came to the town which got "zero support from Government".
By 2022, the town was appealing for Gardaí, as noted above, to to tackle an increase in crime due to an "influx of people living in the area", and when a proposal was made earlier this year to build modular homes to house another 200 refugees, an astonishing 400 objections were made. Ballaghaderreen had become a "dumping ground" for refugees, a townhall meeting heard, and the town had got "nothing in return".
Its clear, therefore, that the "rise in population" that locals say is the cause of increased crime is happening mostly because of immigration. So why is everyone afraid to speak plainly on this issue?
It is dishonest and deeply disingenuous to suggest that people are being racist if they observe what is happening in their own communities. It is also a fact of life as shown by recent studies across Europe, such as in Sweden, Denmark and Germany that those countries experienced a rise in the proportion of non-western migrants represented in crime statistics, with Denmark reporting that non-western immigrants were found guilty of crimes of violence at 3.13 times the rate of Danes.
The reason why we can't point to such figures for Ireland is that the government fails to publish these important statistics. Crime is not reported according to nationality or race. It's as if the authorities think a country with soaring immigration rates shouldn't want to even question whether there's a possible impact on crime.
Neither is it racist to say that transient populations can be more unsettled, and a failure to integrate seems to make said populations more susceptible to criminality and anti-social behaviour. That applies to transient populations in general, not to the colour of a person's skin, or the country of origin.
In fact, there's a smack of real racism in the kind of nonsense parroted by NGOs and their allies that denies that in every large grouping of people there will always be a certain small proportion of criminals or aggressors or rapists or thieves or persons who engage in anti-social behaviour. It's a ridiculous denial, not only of reality, but of human nature itself.
Some of our hesitancy in commenting around perceived links between an increase in crime and migration is, of course, due to common decency. Many immigrants are decent, hard-working people, and no-one wants to be guilty of tarring a whole community of people with the same brush.
But the system in Ireland is set up to produce the worst possible outcomes. As locals commented from Ballaghaderreen, young men and other individuals are being brought to rural towns in their droves and are then left unemployed, unintegrated, living in housing (which locals feel is then not available to them), and disinterested in the community.
These are problems that must be recognised, confronted and tackled. Speaking in code and talking around the issue as if the rise in population and the rise in crime has nothing to do with immigration is a recipe for disaster that is not helping anyone.
That view is lost completely when the protests turn violent and targeting people for whom have come from countries which have went through atrocities you couldn't believe
Go target the political parties that have policies in place to prevent or at least control it.
Good chance in 3 weeks to cast a vote.
Housing is still the major issue. Bluffer O'Brien will hopefully be put out to pasture and some one more creative and imaginative who's willing to tackle the 10 year old crisis head on.
A generation of family members still living with their parents. A severe lack of teachers in Dublin and on the eastern seaboard. A lack of SNA's.
Education system is a mess.
Health system is a mess.
A 'cost of living' crisis.
But don't worry, MM will get a nice photo op. in Israel.
Are you advocating we all vote for the nazifascists or did you just post on the wrong thread?
In the 26 Cos individual Ministers don't have policies.
They implement Government policies.
Changing a bluffer makes no difference.
The 16 year old killed in the hit and run in kildare , was by a Romanian national 2 weeks in the Country.
Good they've caught him but is he a far right individual seeing as you posted it in this thread?
Meanwhile a Scotsman was jailed yesterday for making bombs in Kerry.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 03:18:52 PMGood they've caught him but is he a far right individual seeing as you posted it in this thread?
Meanwhile a Scotsman was jailed yesterday for making bombs in Kerry.
No idea ..but its cases like that is why people are fed up with the open door policy.
You have said on the thread to keep bringing people in. How do you expect hospitals to cope? since they are understaffed as it is
EU and GB people can come here anytime they want.
Wecare not leaving the EU or the CTA.
Are all foreigners in bad health?
Quote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:18:27 PMEU and GB people can come here anytime they want.
Wecare not leaving the EU or the CTA.
Are all foreigners in bad health?
Obviously not all in bad health, but more people creates more pressure. There is plenty of people waiting for beds stuck on trolleys
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41370100.html
If wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:51:06 PMIf wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 12, 2024, 05:55:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:51:06 PMIf wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background
With immigration there are always issues of push and pull
Our welfare entitlements must be a significant pull factor for some of the undesirables who've recently landed on our shores
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 12, 2024, 05:55:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:51:06 PMIf wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background
Who is "bringing them in"?
EU, GB people and Asylum applicants come of their own accord.
Work permits are obtained by employers to fill vacancies that Irish or EU people won't fill.
Do you want us to leave the Common Travel Area and the EU?
Quote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 06:22:49 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on November 12, 2024, 05:55:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:51:06 PMIf wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background
With immigration there are always issues of push and pull
Our welfare entitlements must be a significant pull factor for some of the undesirables who've recently landed on our shores
What rubbish are you talking about here? Our? First off you don't live over here, and you've never paid into the south's system to be entitled to anything yourself
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 07:56:27 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 06:22:49 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on November 12, 2024, 05:55:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:51:06 PMIf wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background
With immigration there are always issues of push and pull
Our welfare entitlements must be a significant pull factor for some of the undesirables who've recently landed on our shores
What rubbish are you talking about here? Our? First off you don't live over here, and you've never paid into the south's system to be entitled to anything yourself
Get your head out of the clouds
Read this article
Giving free houses and all manner of benefits to welfare tourists attracts the wrong type of people to our wonderful country
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/social-protection-reviews-puska-criticism-31576281.amp
Quote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 08:06:56 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 07:56:27 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 06:22:49 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on November 12, 2024, 05:55:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:51:06 PMIf wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background
With immigration there are always issues of push and pull
Our welfare entitlements must be a significant pull factor for some of the undesirables who've recently landed on our shores
What rubbish are you talking about here? Our? First off you don't live over here, and you've never paid into the south's system to be entitled to anything yourself
Get your head out of the clouds
Read this article
Giving free houses and all manner of benefits to welfare tourists attracts the wrong type of people to our wonderful country
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/social-protection-reviews-puska-criticism-31576281.amp
Are you typing that in your KKK robe by any chance?
Year 36 of working, no foreign person here has stolen my job, made me pay extra tax, made me uncomfortable, took food off my plate or stopped me using the NHS
Felt more uncomfortable walking the streets of the city during the 80's from my own though.
Migration illegal or legal is going to happen, so many wars, so much world poverty, civil unrest and pure greed by the rich is the main reason people leave these countries, people leave these places to better themselves and families.
I can't blame anybody that comes to another country to better themselves.
It's on government's to fix these problems at source, if not then they'll keep coming.
Ah, you're just a snowflake or is it woke Milltown.
The yank in his/her bigoted mind assumes they're all looking for Welfare.
€38 a week is some pull alright.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 08:32:05 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 08:06:56 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 07:56:27 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 06:22:49 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on November 12, 2024, 05:55:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:51:06 PMIf wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background
With immigration there are always issues of push and pull
Our welfare entitlements must be a significant pull factor for some of the undesirables who've recently landed on our shores
What rubbish are you talking about here? Our? First off you don't live over here, and you've never paid into the south's system to be entitled to anything yourself
Get your head out of the clouds
Read this article
Giving free houses and all manner of benefits to welfare tourists attracts the wrong type of people to our wonderful country
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/social-protection-reviews-puska-criticism-31576281.amp
Are you typing that in your KKK robe by any chance?
Year 36 of working, no foreign person here has stolen my job, made me pay extra tax, made me uncomfortable, took food off my plate or stopped me using the NHS
Felt more uncomfortable walking the streets of the city during the 80's from my own though.
Migration illegal or legal is going to happen, so many wars, so much world poverty, civil unrest and pure greed by the rich is the main reason people leave these countries, people leave these places to better themselves and families.
I can't blame anybody that comes to another country to better themselves.
It's on government's to fix these problems at source, if not then they'll keep coming.
Do Roma Gypsies have some natural affinity or connection to Ireland or are they coming for welfare?
Simple question
It must be great to live in cloud cuckoo land
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41125573.html
Quote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 08:37:39 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 08:32:05 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 08:06:56 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 07:56:27 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 06:22:49 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on November 12, 2024, 05:55:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:51:06 PMIf wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background
With immigration there are always issues of push and pull
Our welfare entitlements must be a significant pull factor for some of the undesirables who've recently landed on our shores
What rubbish are you talking about here? Our? First off you don't live over here, and you've never paid into the south's system to be entitled to anything yourself
Get your head out of the clouds
Read this article
Giving free houses and all manner of benefits to welfare tourists attracts the wrong type of people to our wonderful country
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/social-protection-reviews-puska-criticism-31576281.amp
Are you typing that in your KKK robe by any chance?
Year 36 of working, no foreign person here has stolen my job, made me pay extra tax, made me uncomfortable, took food off my plate or stopped me using the NHS
Felt more uncomfortable walking the streets of the city during the 80's from my own though.
Migration illegal or legal is going to happen, so many wars, so much world poverty, civil unrest and pure greed by the rich is the main reason people leave these countries, people leave these places to better themselves and families.
I can't blame anybody that comes to another country to better themselves.
It's on government's to fix these problems at source, if not then they'll keep coming.
Do Roma Gypsies have some natural affinity or connection to Ireland or are they coming for welfare?
Simple question
What's your affinity to a different continent?
Did you leave here to better yourself?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 08:39:15 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 08:37:39 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 08:32:05 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 08:06:56 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 07:56:27 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 06:22:49 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on November 12, 2024, 05:55:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:51:06 PMIf wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background
With immigration there are always issues of push and pull
Our welfare entitlements must be a significant pull factor for some of the undesirables who've recently landed on our shores
What rubbish are you talking about here? Our? First off you don't live over here, and you've never paid into the south's system to be entitled to anything yourself
Get your head out of the clouds
Read this article
Giving free houses and all manner of benefits to welfare tourists attracts the wrong type of people to our wonderful country
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/social-protection-reviews-puska-criticism-31576281.amp
Are you typing that in your KKK robe by any chance?
Year 36 of working, no foreign person here has stolen my job, made me pay extra tax, made me uncomfortable, took food off my plate or stopped me using the NHS
Felt more uncomfortable walking the streets of the city during the 80's from my own though.
Migration illegal or legal is going to happen, so many wars, so much world poverty, civil unrest and pure greed by the rich is the main reason people leave these countries, people leave these places to better themselves and families.
I can't blame anybody that comes to another country to better themselves.
It's on government's to fix these problems at source, if not then they'll keep coming.
Do Roma Gypsies have some natural affinity or connection to Ireland or are they coming for welfare?
Simple question
What's your affinity to a different continent?
Did you leave here to better yourself?
So you agree with people coming here to sit on their hole and pretend they are sick, is that bettering yourself ?
Quote from: Kidder81 on November 12, 2024, 08:48:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 08:39:15 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 08:37:39 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 08:32:05 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 08:06:56 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2024, 07:56:27 PMQuote from: whitey on November 12, 2024, 06:22:49 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on November 12, 2024, 05:55:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2024, 05:51:06 PMIf wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages ;)
Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background
With immigration there are always issues of push and pull
Our welfare entitlements must be a significant pull factor for some of the undesirables who've recently landed on our shores
What rubbish are you talking about here? Our? First off you don't live over here, and you've never paid into the south's system to be entitled to anything yourself
Get your head out of the clouds
Read this article
Giving free houses and all manner of benefits to welfare tourists attracts the wrong type of people to our wonderful country
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/social-protection-reviews-puska-criticism-31576281.amp
Are you typing that in your KKK robe by any chance?
Year 36 of working, no foreign person here has stolen my job, made me pay extra tax, made me uncomfortable, took food off my plate or stopped me using the NHS
Felt more uncomfortable walking the streets of the city during the 80's from my own though.
Migration illegal or legal is going to happen, so many wars, so much world poverty, civil unrest and pure greed by the rich is the main reason people leave these countries, people leave these places to better themselves and families.
I can't blame anybody that comes to another country to better themselves.
It's on government's to fix these problems at source, if not then they'll keep coming.
Do Roma Gypsies have some natural affinity or connection to Ireland or are they coming for welfare?
Simple question
What's your affinity to a different continent?
Did you leave here to better yourself?
So you agree with people coming here to sit on their hole and pretend they are sick, is that bettering yourself ?
Have you seen where most of these people are coming from?
I'd say it's 1000% better.
Again, it's a government thing, procedures are in place, it's got to be adhered to. But again, stop at source, fix the reasons why they are coming
We'll have to stop letting scumbags into the Country esp Yank ones
https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2024/1113/1480618-laois-investigation/
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2024, 04:30:43 PMWe'll have to stop letting scumbags into the Country esp Yank ones
https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2024/1113/1480618-laois-investigation/
Haha
I've been waiting all morning for this post
In 2023, the total contribution of travel and tourism to Ireland's gross domestic product (GDP) was roughly 17.7 percent higher than in 2019, the year before the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic. Overall, the total contribution of these industries to the country's GDP amounted to 19.3 billion euros in 2023.
3.2 M foreign tourists visited in the first 6 months of 2024
I'm not shocked or surprised that one or two would commit a criminal act
These killing tourist are ok, they spend money ;D
Thick as champ
This crime, investigation, Court Case and imprisonment will cost taxpayer more than thousands of asylum seekers.
The latter will be either -
refused and sent home or
Accepted, work, pay taxes, PRSI, USC, VAT, buy stuff in shops, pay rent/mortgage and contribute to GDP etc.
Criminal Yanks no thanks!!
So let me see if I have this straight
Millions of people come to Ireland every year as tourists and spend billions upon billions of Euros
Because some of these tourists commit crime, that justifies an open borders approach to immigration, which includes welcoming Welfare tourists!from Eastern Europe who contribute nothing to society
Makes perfect sense
Quote from: whitey on November 13, 2024, 06:12:27 PMSo let me see if I have this straight
Millions of people come to Ireland every year as tourists and spend billions upon billions of Euros
Because some of these tourists commit crime, that justifies an open borders approach to immigration, which includes welcoming Welfare tourists!from Eastern Europe who contribute nothing to society
Makes perfect sense
We are specifically talking about Americans murdering while here as tourist, you are throwing up numbers to justify it and then waffling on about Eastern European tourist with less money
Makes perfect sense
The Onion has bought Alex Jones' Infowars! 😂😂😂
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So three out of nine years Ireland weren't pulling their weight.
Lazy bastids
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Who's been in power during that period?
Who's voting them in?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2024, 06:02:15 PMSo three out of nine years Ireland weren't pulling their weight.
Lazy bastids
Think there are 10 years there.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2024, 06:05:02 PMWho's been in power during that period?
Who's voting them in?
Not you anyway......
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 14, 2024, 06:00:26 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcVEEUEXAAAMkBh?format=jpg&name=small)
How did Denmark and Finland manage to stop them applying
https://twitter.com/i/status/1857029501311431138 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1857029501311431138)
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Quote from: From the Bunker on November 14, 2024, 06:08:13 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2024, 06:05:02 PMWho's been in power during that period?
Who's voting them in?
Not you anyway......
Some dumbass voters in the south, complaining about immigration issues but voting in those who are making their lives miserable ;D
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2024, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 14, 2024, 06:08:13 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2024, 06:05:02 PMWho's been in power during that period?
Who's voting them in?
Not you anyway......
Some dumbass voters in the south, complaining about immigration issues but voting in those who are making their lives miserable ;D
And who is the alternative when you are looking like yourself from afar?
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 14, 2024, 09:28:34 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2024, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 14, 2024, 06:08:13 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2024, 06:05:02 PMWho's been in power during that period?
Who's voting them in?
Not you anyway......
Some dumbass voters in the south, complaining about immigration issues but voting in those who are making their lives miserable ;D
And who is the alternative when you are looking like yourself from afar?
Well if you keep voting in the same people you'll keep getting the same results.
A bit like here.
If you have an issue with migration illegally or otherwise take it up with the government
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2024, 09:45:09 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 14, 2024, 09:28:34 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2024, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 14, 2024, 06:08:13 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2024, 06:05:02 PMWho's been in power during that period?
Who's voting them in?
Not you anyway......
Some dumbass voters in the south, complaining about immigration issues but voting in those who are making their lives miserable ;D
And who is the alternative when you are looking like yourself from afar?
Well if you keep voting in the same people you'll keep getting the same results.
A bit like here.
If you have an issue with migration illegally or otherwise take it up with the government
So there is no alternative?
Loads of alternatives of all shades.....
But people don't or won't vote for them in any great numbers apart from the Shinners 2020.
From left to tight
PBP, Lab, Soc Dem , Peadar Tóibín, Ind Ireland, 4 or 5 nazifascist groups.....
Then there are loads of Independents of left, right, centre and Healy Rae hues.
Hard core fascist TD in Roscommon
https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-immigration-election-6537789-Nov2024/
Rumor mill has it that the media silence and indeed the silencing of any 'hateful' public sentiment around the Stockport murders is due to Starmers previous career as Human Rights Laywer
Quote from: theskull1 on November 17, 2024, 11:51:25 PMRumor mill has it that the media silence and indeed the silencing of any 'hateful' public sentiment around the Stockport murders is due to Starmers previous career as Human Rights Laywer
So I seen
The Brits could be taking away more knighthoods next year than they'll give out.
Another "hero"
Took 12 months....
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2024/1118/1481619-garda-car-fire/
Quote from: Rossfan on November 18, 2024, 05:14:01 PMAnother "hero"
Took 12 months....
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2024/1118/1481619-garda-car-fire/
Didn't know what he was doing, was angry cause his friends best mates other friend who knew another persons kid was in that same school that was attacked.
Brother was robbed by non English speakers he's suffers with panic attacks, anxiety and is unemployed (shock horror)!
Said, nobody was doing anything about it, which is it, not knowing what he was doing or doing something that he felt needed doing? Oh, and I'm not racist
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 05:34:46 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 18, 2024, 05:14:01 PMAnother "hero"
Took 12 months....
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2024/1118/1481619-garda-car-fire/
Didn't know what he was doing, was angry cause his friends best mates other friend who knew another persons kid was in that same school that was attacked.
Brother was robbed by non English speakers he's suffers with panic attacks, anxiety and is unemployed (shock horror)!
Said, nobody was doing anything about it, which is it, not knowing what he was doing or doing something that he felt needed doing? Oh, and I'm not racist
I need to lie down after reading that ;D
Some right sc**bag family and friends exiting the Court.
Has any of the Far Right/loyalists (same thing) and their Coolock mates appeared in court for wrecking Belfast while PSNI watched on? Same PSNI that laid into protesters against genocide supporter Hilary Clinton being feted at Queens last week...
Quote from: theskull1 on November 17, 2024, 11:51:25 PMRumor mill has it that the media silence and indeed the silencing of any 'hateful' public sentiment around the Stockport murders is due to Starmers previous career as Human Rights Laywer
A youtuber I follow offering his perspective
Quote from: Rossfan on November 18, 2024, 06:45:50 PMSome right sc**bag family and friends exiting the Court.
Ah now, they are not racists don't you know, they just like rioting, burning and robbing.
;D
A fair spread of ethics groups involved in the Racist Riots in Dublin this time last year ;D
https://www.garda.ie/en/persons_of_interest/ (https://www.garda.ie/en/persons_of_interest/)
Pretty sure that's looters in most of those photos?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2024, 09:43:22 PMPretty sure that's looters in most of those photos?
Aye.. but they're saving Ireland!
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1120/1482037-declan-donaghey-court/
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2024, 04:19:22 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1120/1482037-declan-donaghey-court/
He's unfortunate.. could have came north with the Coolock crew and wrecked all round him with no consequences
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 20, 2024, 06:44:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2024, 04:19:22 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1120/1482037-declan-donaghey-court/
He's unfortunate.. could have came north with the Coolock crew and wrecked all round him with no consequences
He is, he should have committed sexual assault against a schoolgirl and he would have got a suspended sentence
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/data-engineer-26-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-schoolgirl-on-bus-for-40-minutes-1550219.html
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-who-sexually-assaulted-girl-14-on-bus-is-given-suspended-jail-sentence/a2120227759.html
You upset over your hero being shown up?
For one very interested in sex offences you seem to have missed this one
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1118/1481589-cork-court/
Quote from: Kidder81 on November 20, 2024, 10:27:33 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 20, 2024, 06:44:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2024, 04:19:22 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1120/1482037-declan-donaghey-court/
He's unfortunate.. could have came north with the Coolock crew and wrecked all round him with no consequences
He is, he should have committed sexual assault against a schoolgirl and he would have got a suspended sentence
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/data-engineer-26-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-schoolgirl-on-bus-for-40-minutes-1550219.html
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-who-sexually-assaulted-girl-14-on-bus-is-given-suspended-jail-sentence/a2120227759.html
Am not sure the connection between that maggot assaulting a schoolgirl and racist hoods in Dublin and Belfast out looting shops and burning a Gardai car...
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 20, 2024, 11:56:43 PMAm not sure the connection between that maggot assaulting a schoolgirl and racist hoods in Dublin and Belfast out looting shops and burning a Gardai car...
I presume it's a comparison of prison time and which is the worse crime.
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 21, 2024, 01:47:32 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 20, 2024, 11:56:43 PMAm not sure the connection between that maggot assaulting a schoolgirl and racist hoods in Dublin and Belfast out looting shops and burning a Gardai car...
I presume it's a comparison of prison time and which is the worse crime.
Probably worth a separate thread on the handing out of sentences for crimes. Far Right looting/burning police cars in Dublin & Belfast v sexual assault is not comparing like for like. I'd agree that pervert should have got prison time. Looks tho that post was to find a foreign offender and put it up as comparison tho the crimes were completely different.
Our woke Patrick Kielty walked straight into Morgans trap last night. Caught hook line and sinker.
https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045 (https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045)
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 05:42:26 PMOur woke Patrick Kielty walked straight into Morgans trap last night. Caught hook line and sinker.
https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045 (https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045)
That's an execution? 🙄
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 24, 2024, 05:45:52 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 05:42:26 PMOur woke Patrick Kielty walked straight into Morgans trap last night. Caught hook line and sinker.
https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045 (https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045)
That's an execution? 🙄
He pretty much was. Kielty was flummoxed. Morgan realised this and further perplexed him as he tried to come up with something. In the end he went with the lame Trump card.
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 06:03:40 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 24, 2024, 05:45:52 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 05:42:26 PMOur woke Patrick Kielty walked straight into Morgans trap last night. Caught hook line and sinker.
https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045 (https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045)
That's an execution? 🙄
He pretty much was. Kielty was flummoxed. Morgan realised this and further perplexed him as he tried to come up with something. In the end he went with the lame Trump card.
Don't think Kielty will lose any credibility over that apart from the LLS inviting that maggot on.
Who called him "our woke"?
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 06:03:40 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 24, 2024, 05:45:52 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 05:42:26 PMOur woke Patrick Kielty walked straight into Morgans trap last night. Caught hook line and sinker.
https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045 (https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045)
That's an execution? 🙄
He pretty much was. Kielty was flummoxed. Morgan realised this and further perplexed him as he tried to come up with something. In the end he went with the lame Trump card.
I was cringing that hard for Kielty I had to turn it over. I like Kielty but he's not fit for the likes of Morgan.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 24, 2024, 08:26:07 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 06:03:40 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 24, 2024, 05:45:52 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 05:42:26 PMOur woke Patrick Kielty walked straight into Morgans trap last night. Caught hook line and sinker.
https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045 (https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045)
That's an execution? 🙄
He pretty much was. Kielty was flummoxed. Morgan realised this and further perplexed him as he tried to come up with something. In the end he went with the lame Trump card.
I was cringing that hard for Kielty I had to turn it over. I like Kielty but he's not fit for the likes of Morgan.
Didn't watch it but Morgan has been caught plenty times with his trousers down in interviews, he's intelligent enough to be able to murder the likes of paddy though, but only looks after himself and his following to keep him relevant
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2024, 08:35:38 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on November 24, 2024, 08:26:07 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 06:03:40 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 24, 2024, 05:45:52 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 05:42:26 PMOur woke Patrick Kielty walked straight into Morgans trap last night. Caught hook line and sinker.
https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045 (https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1860131512735400045)
That's an execution? 🙄
He pretty much was. Kielty was flummoxed. Morgan realised this and further perplexed him as he tried to come up with something. In the end he went with the lame Trump card.
I was cringing that hard for Kielty I had to turn it over. I like Kielty but he's not fit for the likes of Morgan.
Didn't watch it but Morgan has been caught plenty times with his trousers down in interviews, he's intelligent enough to be able to murder the likes of paddy though, but only looks after himself and his following to keep him relevant
Morgan does blow like the wind to keep himself relevant as you say , but he did make an eejit out of Patrick there.
Couldn't help thinking he was told by the RTE bosses to say what he did to Morgan , like Gaybo was told to back in the day.
I'm definitely no fan of Piers Morgan (he cares for no one but himself) - but if Patrick Kielty was going to play senior hurling and call out a man and his beliefs he had to back it up.
I don't think Morgan has anything to do with it. In that it wasn't a trap or Morgan being smarter or anything else.
It was PK simply doing zero research on his guest. He had no idea what controversial opinions Morgan had, despite leaping in two footed.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 24, 2024, 09:53:52 PMI don't think Morgan has anything to do with it. In that it wasn't a trap or Morgan being smarter or anything else.
It was PK simply doing zero research on his guest. He had no idea what controversial opinions Morgan had, despite leaping in two footed.
Agreed.
It's also a byproduct of what happens when an entertainer takes on a role that was meant for a seasoned journalist / broadcaster.
You can get away with underestimating actors, sportspeople and one-passion zealots. But taking on a seasoned journalist on a whim, that's just daft. And not a trap his predecessors would have fallen into.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 24, 2024, 09:53:52 PMI don't think Morgan has anything to do with it. In that it wasn't a trap or Morgan being smarter or anything else.
It was PK simply doing zero research on his guest. He had no idea what controversial opinions Morgan had, despite leaping in two footed.
It shows how many run with the herd without having a notion of issues. Even most of the audience who applauded PK remark, wouldn't have a notion.
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 10:19:58 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 24, 2024, 09:53:52 PMI don't think Morgan has anything to do with it. In that it wasn't a trap or Morgan being smarter or anything else.
It was PK simply doing zero research on his guest. He had no idea what controversial opinions Morgan had, despite leaping in two footed.
It shows how many run with the herd without having a notion of issues. Even most of the audience who applauded PK remark, wouldn't have a notion.
Do you have a view on things (in general) and stick with it? Or do you look at what other people are saying and just say, ah bollocks to that, I'll stick with my own herd?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2024, 10:50:39 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 10:19:58 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 24, 2024, 09:53:52 PMI don't think Morgan has anything to do with it. In that it wasn't a trap or Morgan being smarter or anything else.
It was PK simply doing zero research on his guest. He had no idea what controversial opinions Morgan had, despite leaping in two footed.
It shows how many run with the herd without having a notion of issues. Even most of the audience who applauded PK remark, wouldn't have a notion.
Do you have a view on things (in general) and stick with it? Or do you look at what other people are saying and just say, ah bollocks to that, I'll stick with my own herd?
I'm not talking about me. We are talking about two well paid personalities. Mind your own business!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdL3YccXcAA0OcO?format=jpg&name=small)
You are claiming people run with the herd, and people haven't a notion.
So if you don't want to answer that's fine.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2024, 11:34:54 PMYou are claiming people run with the herd, and people haven't a notion.
So if you don't want to answer that's fine.
Sound
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 09:07:40 PMI'm definitely no fan of Piers Morgan (he cares for no one but himself) - but if Patrick Kielty was going to play senior hurling and call out a man and his beliefs he had to back it up.
did Paddy ask him about Millie Dowlers phone?
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2024, 09:07:40 PMI'm definitely no fan of Piers Morgan (he cares for no one but himself) - but if Patrick Kielty was going to play senior hurling and call out a man and his beliefs he had to back it up.
That was poor from Kielty on all sorts of levels. Made Morgan look intelligent...
Elon Musk promoting Tommy Two Names now.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1860726497197293649?s=46
This picture has jumped the gun a bit and left out a few successes. But it does show there is no Right Revolution.
There will be no big Red X over no non sense Mattie McGrath.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gdps6RGWcAAfo4M?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 30, 2024, 10:15:11 PMThis picture has jumped the gun a bit and left out a few successes. But it does show there is no Right Revolution.
There will be no big Red X over no non sense Mattie McGrath.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gdps6RGWcAAfo4M?format=jpg&name=small)
Mattie is a decent enough spud is he not?
Whats the latest on Hutch?
Remind me again how many nazifascists got elected to the Dáil?
Quote from: Rossfan on December 04, 2024, 01:11:16 PMRemind me again how many nazifascists got elected to the Dáil?
Can't think of any. The electorate got enough from the FFG sweet shop just before the election to keep their children happy.
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 04, 2024, 03:45:35 PMQuote from: Rossfan on December 04, 2024, 01:11:16 PMRemind me again how many nazifascists got elected to the Dáil?
Can't think of any. The electorate got enough from the FFG sweet shop just before the election to keep their children happy.
What are you going to be when you grow up?
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/killer-cut-throat-malika-8-34244345
Another boy that's fond of having a knife in his hand, a foreign national released from prison in the UK and straight to Wexford ???
Quote from: Rossfan on December 04, 2024, 03:54:51 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on December 04, 2024, 03:45:35 PMQuote from: Rossfan on December 04, 2024, 01:11:16 PMRemind me again how many nazifascists got elected to the Dáil?
Can't think of any. The electorate got enough from the FFG sweet shop just before the election to keep their children happy.
What are you going to be when you grow up?
I'll move on from being a FFG supporter.
Quote from: Kidder81 on December 04, 2024, 04:04:23 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/killer-cut-throat-malika-8-34244345
Another boy that's fond of having a knife in his hand, a foreign national released from prison in the UK and straight to Wexford ???
.
Would it be alright if he was Irish?
Quote from: Rossfan on December 04, 2024, 01:11:16 PMRemind me again how many nazifascists got elected to the Dáil?
How many ran? Do many even exist outside of your head?
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 04, 2024, 05:40:41 PMQuote from: Rossfan on December 04, 2024, 01:11:16 PMRemind me again how many nazifascists got elected to the Dáil?
How many ran? Do many even exist outside of your head?
Around 70 I believe.
Another hero of something or other getting his day in Court
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1205/1484945-dublin-riots-court/
https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2024/1209/1485535-ram-robbery/
Those pesky Romanians again ???
Quote from: Rossfan on December 05, 2024, 11:52:02 PMAnother hero of something or other getting his day in Court
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1205/1484945-dublin-riots-court/
It takes forever for the Gardai to catch the scum behind the riots. In the UK they have them banged up within days.
Quote from: Dag Dog on December 09, 2024, 11:17:52 PMQuote from: Rossfan on December 05, 2024, 11:52:02 PMAnother hero of something or other getting his day in Court
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1205/1484945-dublin-riots-court/
It takes forever for the Gardai to catch the scum behind the riots. In the UK they have them banged up within days.
In the North the police don't even bother arresting the far right when they attack properties and rampage.... PSNI super vigilant however if its a protest against Israeli genocide at Queens University or a peaceful Black Lives Matter protest in Belfast in 2020...
Another "hero"
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/irish-freedom-party-candidate-claimed-he-had-knife-in-public-to-cut-down-posters-when-arrested-court-hears/a694472092.html
Quote from: Rossfan on December 12, 2024, 08:17:50 AMAnother "hero"
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/irish-freedom-party-candidate-claimed-he-had-knife-in-public-to-cut-down-posters-when-arrested-court-hears/a694472092.html
Is that the arsehole that was walking around the tents giving abuse to the woman helping out??
An English "hero" gets his comeuppance
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-who-fuelled-fire-in-asylum-seeker-hotel-jailed-for-nine-years/a1596576961.html
Quote from: Rossfan on December 13, 2024, 09:40:55 AMAn English "hero" gets his comeuppance
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-who-fuelled-fire-in-asylum-seeker-hotel-jailed-for-nine-years/a1596576961.html
His wee man bag full of coke and ket
Quote from: Kidder81 on December 09, 2024, 11:08:08 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2024/1209/1485535-ram-robbery/
Those pesky Romanians again ???
Noted on the sentencing of this the other day all had previous convictions in different countries.
31-year-old Daniel Murgea was jailed for six years after Judge Orla Crowe said she was taking into account his "significant history of dishonesty", referring to Murgea's previous convictions in both France and Italy for offences involving theft.
"Detective Garda Tom McEvoy told the court that all three men have previous convictions.
Petriu and Stanku have one each while Murgea has 13 in Italy and three in France for theft, dealing in stolen goods, and criminal association."
Obviously as EU citizens they had free movement but do convictions when entering a country become a factor ?
Quote from: Deerstalker on December 13, 2024, 01:55:32 PMQuote from: Kidder81 on December 09, 2024, 11:08:08 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2024/1209/1485535-ram-robbery/
Those pesky Romanians again ???
Noted on the sentencing of this the other day all had previous convictions in different countries.
31-year-old Daniel Murgea was jailed for six years after Judge Orla Crowe said she was taking into account his "significant history of dishonesty", referring to Murgea's previous convictions in both France and Italy for offences involving theft.
"Detective Garda Tom McEvoy told the court that all three men have previous convictions.
Petriu and Stanku have one each while Murgea has 13 in Italy and three in France for theft, dealing in stolen goods, and criminal association."
Obviously as EU citizens they had free movement but do convictions when entering a country become a factor ?
Trump has a few convictions, doesn't stop him from entering countries.
I'd say Tommy Robinson has a few convictions but seems free to go as he pleases
Kidder must have missed this one....
https://www.shannonside.ie/news/woman-dies-from-injuries-following-ballinasloe-assault-254633
Quote from: Rossfan on December 13, 2024, 03:20:37 PMKidder must have missed this one....
https://www.shannonside.ie/news/woman-dies-from-injuries-following-ballinasloe-assault-254633
I don't get where this fits into a far right heading?
Kidder has concerns about women's safety but seems to miss the odd horror case.
Kidder,
Another assault on a woman you might have missed.
She's now on life support.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1214/1486496-assault-newbridge-kildare/
Quote from: Rossfan on December 14, 2024, 08:37:21 PMKidder,
Another assault on a woman you might have missed.
She's now on life support.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1214/1486496-assault-newbridge-kildare/
Imagine posting that to try and point score on here...
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 15, 2024, 05:43:46 AMQuote from: Rossfan on December 14, 2024, 08:37:21 PMKidder,
Another assault on a woman you might have missed.
She's now on life support.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1214/1486496-assault-newbridge-kildare/
Imagine posting that to try and point score on here...
To be fair, kidders been doing it flat out along with others, both need to wise up
https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2024/1220/1487636-tralee-library-court/
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 15, 2024, 05:43:46 AMQuote from: Rossfan on December 14, 2024, 08:37:21 PMKidder,
Another assault on a woman you might have missed.
She's now on life support.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1214/1486496-assault-newbridge-kildare/
Imagine posting that to try and point score on here...
Imagine missing the point
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2024, 04:52:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 15, 2024, 05:43:46 AMQuote from: Rossfan on December 14, 2024, 08:37:21 PMKidder,
Another assault on a woman you might have missed.
She's now on life support.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1214/1486496-assault-newbridge-kildare/
Imagine posting that to try and point score on here...
Imagine missing the point
And the point is? Educate us of lesser knowledge.....
Germany look to be sadly paying for liberal immigration laws. :(
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 21, 2024, 07:05:11 PMGermany look to be sadly paying for liberal immigration laws. :(
All the early reactions assumed the driver was an Islamic terrorist but turns out he is a Saudi born, in Germany since 2006, far right, anti-Islam, pro-Israel AfD supporter. Shocking thing to do, pure evil.
Quote from: weareros on December 21, 2024, 07:19:28 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on December 21, 2024, 07:05:11 PMGermany look to be sadly paying for liberal immigration laws. :(
All the early reactions assumed the driver was an Islamic terrorist but turns out he is a Saudi born, in Germany since 2006, far right, anti-Islam, pro-Israel AfD supporter. Shocking thing to do, pure evil.
You forgot to mention he criticised Germany for its handling of Saudi refugees.
Yeah, this hits hard to the bone, because this could be any of us in town with the kids on a weekend - doing the ordinary Christmas stuff.
Major cities will need more and more of these.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfVzkSFWUAAFfqJ?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2024, 04:52:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 15, 2024, 05:43:46 AMQuote from: Rossfan on December 14, 2024, 08:37:21 PMKidder,
Another assault on a woman you might have missed.
She's now on life support.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1214/1486496-assault-newbridge-kildare/
Imagine posting that to try and point score on here...
Imagine missing the point
You would know about missing the point, it would be a full time job posting crime articles from the "new Irish", but you love it.
Refugees welcome (as long as they aren't close to me)
Quote from: Kidder81 on December 21, 2024, 08:24:23 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2024, 04:52:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 15, 2024, 05:43:46 AMQuote from: Rossfan on December 14, 2024, 08:37:21 PMKidder,
Another assault on a woman you might have missed.
She's now on life support.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1214/1486496-assault-newbridge-kildare/
Imagine posting that to try and point score on here...
Imagine missing the point
You would know about missing the point, it would be a full time job posting crime articles from the "new Irish", but you love it.
Refugees welcome (as long as they aren't close to me)
Or maybe he's on a nice little earner housing them.
Quote from: Kidder81 on December 21, 2024, 08:24:23 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2024, 04:52:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 15, 2024, 05:43:46 AMQuote from: Rossfan on December 14, 2024, 08:37:21 PMKidder,
Another assault on a woman you might have missed.
She's now on life support.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1214/1486496-assault-newbridge-kildare/
Imagine posting that to try and point score on here...
Imagine missing the point
You would know about missing the point, it would be a full time job posting crime articles from the "new Irish", but you love it.
Refugees welcome (as long as they aren't close to me)
LOL.
Whatever you think kiddo
Another nazifascist heroine ...
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41547205.html
Quote from: Rossfan on January 04, 2025, 11:42:34 AMAnother nazifascist heroine ...
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41547205.html
Nothing worse than a false flag. Poor form. Can create a boy who cried wolf later.
Sure with Musk now amplifying everything these things can go global.
Like in the trending in Ireland yesterday according to X Rotherham was way up.
Now are telling me that's genuine compared to news like the cold snap.
There's potentially trouble brewing at the home place too with whispers of a hotel being switched to IPAS accommodation.
All the scum will be down soon showing 'support'.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 04, 2025, 03:56:25 PMSure with Musk now amplifying everything these things can go global.
Like in the trending in Ireland yesterday according to X Rotherham was way up.
Now are telling me that's genuine compared to news like the cold snap.
There's potentially trouble brewing at the home place too with whispers of a hotel being switched to IPAS accommodation.
All the scum will be down soon showing 'support'.
It's getting harder to distinguish the wood from the trees in regarding to legitimate protestors. You can't paint everybody with the same brush. Unfortunately the Arseholes will get the headlines.
Another hero!
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/0107/1489515-thornton-hall/
The state of that maggot McGregor posing with Farage. If anyone had any doubts who the far right in Ireland is aligned with; ala Coolock fascists and the loyaists.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-conor-mcgregor-washington-trump-b2682829.html
Disappointing that Farage would stoop so low.
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 20, 2025, 11:39:48 PMDisappointing that Farage would stoop so low.
Why would you be surprised?
Birds of a feather....
Rags to riches working class boy from Dublin with posh, English investment-banker turned politician. Pair of clampets the both of them
Which one of them should be more embarrassed by the photo?
Quote from: general_lee on January 21, 2025, 12:58:52 PMRags to riches working class boy from Dublin with posh, English investment-banker turned politician. Pair of clampets the both of them
McGregor is British anyway.
Quote from: Don Cockburn on January 21, 2025, 01:11:31 PMQuote from: general_lee on January 21, 2025, 12:58:52 PMRags to riches working class boy from Dublin with posh, English investment-banker turned politician. Pair of clampets the both of them
McGregor is British anyway.
Really?
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 21, 2025, 04:20:33 PMQuote from: Don Cockburn on January 21, 2025, 01:11:31 PMQuote from: general_lee on January 21, 2025, 12:58:52 PMRags to riches working class boy from Dublin with posh, English investment-banker turned politician. Pair of clampets the both of them
McGregor is British anyway.
Really?
It's a joke thing. The reverse of the Brits claiming an Irish person when they do well.
Another one of them
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/dublin-grandad-accused-of-trespassing-at-proposed-asylum-seeker-site/a633490059.html
Yet another one.
https://news.sky.com/story/two-killed-in-knife-attack-in-germany-13294102
Quote from: Rossfan on January 23, 2025, 11:17:28 AMAnother one of them
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/dublin-grandad-accused-of-trespassing-at-proposed-asylum-seeker-site/a633490059.html
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 24, 2025, 11:24:01 AMYet another one.
https://news.sky.com/story/two-killed-in-knife-attack-in-germany-13294102
What is the actual point here lads..
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 24, 2025, 11:24:01 AMYet another one.
https://news.sky.com/story/two-killed-in-knife-attack-in-germany-13294102
And another one;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8pd7dn8v6o (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8pd7dn8v6o)
Found another Irish far righter on Twitter. Hopefully hate crime legislation will put and end to this sort of thing
https://x.com/Mick_O_Keeffe/status/1885081000822055071 (https://x.com/Mick_O_Keeffe/status/1885081000822055071)
Quote from: theskull1 on January 31, 2025, 08:36:41 AMFound another Irish far righter on Twitter. Hopefully hate crime legislation will put and end to this sort of thing
https://x.com/Mick_O_Keeffe/status/1885081000822055071 (https://x.com/Mick_O_Keeffe/status/1885081000822055071)
That piano piece, anyone know what it is?
Listen and swap the word/s foreign nationals / foreigners with fellow humans / humans.
Quote from: theskull1 on January 31, 2025, 08:36:41 AMFound another Irish far righter on Twitter. Hopefully hate crime legislation will put and end to this sort of thing
https://x.com/Mick_O_Keeffe/status/1885081000822055071 (https://x.com/Mick_O_Keeffe/status/1885081000822055071)
God love her
The far right circus is coming to town (my home parish) on Saturday over planning for IPAS centre at Moyvalley Hotel. Mixed reports even locally as the owner is saying that the hotel and golf course will remain open and 32 apartmets is all that is changing.
Some genuine locals would want to be wary of who they are standing beside. There are some local WhatsApp groups but from what I am hearing no locals are pushing this picket. It'll be the usual heads bussed down.
As I said unvetted Dubs...
The usual unwashed extremist scumbags.
Any chance we could deport those scumbags seeing as 98% of people don't want them.
I love the 'we don't know who these people are' arguement and I flip it re the Dubs living moving down. One lad was working as pizza delivery man in Enfield was carrying a gun and shot an innocent person 2 years ago.
Another 2 living locally held up a cash in transit van outside a national school at 10am. One of them could have literaly strolled to the crime scene...Military aged unvetted men coming to my area!
Hopefully 1 bucko removed from the claws of Fascism.....
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41568523.html
Nazfascists don't like democracy
https://m.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/dublin-news/close-the-door-behind-you-says-lord-mayor-after-two-councillors-storm-out-of-dublin-city-council-meeting/a817451068.html
"Citizen journalists" have to obey the law too ;D
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/anti-immigration-activist-philip-dwyer-fined-for-refusing-to-leave-coolock-riots/a1436161718.html
Looks like Coolock On Tour again... racking up with their loyalist mates in Belfast... state of them
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr42ve2rw11o
Fascist fifth at it again..
Far Right Attack On Dublin Celtic Supporters Condemned.
We would like to take this opportunity to condemn the disgraceful attack perpetrated by far right agitators on Celtic FC supporters in Dublin, Ireland yesterday (Saturday 26th April 2025).
Celtic supporters had earlier gathered socially, in a public house to celebrate Celtic FC's victory away to Dundee United and the achievement of their beloved club's 55th Scottish League title.
An anti-immigration demonstration had been scheduled to conclude nearby on Custom House Quay when an estimated figure of between 35 and 50 people who had been at the demonstration entered the aptly named James Connolly Pub on Eden Quay.
James Connolly, the Irish socialist, republican and leader of the 1916 Easter rising was himself an economic immigrant from Scotland.
Ironically Irish born Adam Idah had scored twice to secure Celtic's win and the league title. Adam Idah is the son of a Nigerian immigrant.
The demonstration had been earlier chanting "Get Them Out" in reference to forced mass deportation and anti-Palestinian solidarity slogans with Israeli flags openly on display.
Those in attendance at the social gathering asked the supporters of the demonstration to leave, in consistance with the Celtic FC message of solidarity with the Palestinian people and those in need of refuge worldwide.
The demonstrators launched into a physical attack on the Celtic FC supporters and horrendous racial abuse of non Irish members of staff and management.
The much larger far right contingent were bravely removed from the property by Celtic supporters while management and staff secured the entrance, closing the venue to the public until it was safe to reopen.
We hereby condemn this display and manifestation of bigotery and hatred.
Celtic FC is a reknowned football club, established in 1887 based on the principles of support for impoverished immigrants and refuge seekers.
Celtic FC is also a community of international solidarity, there is an estimated international support base of over 9 million supporters (2003) across over 160 Celtic Supporters Clubs established in over 20 countries worldwide.
There is no place for racism, facism, anti-immigrant support or even sentiment, regardless of the socio-economic or political climate in the ethos of the spirit of being a true Celtic FC supporter.
We abhor the attack in Dublin on our clubs supporters as much as we abhor the message that the Dublin demonstration heralded, and we appeal to those suffering under trying economic circumstances not to be duped by opportunistic political agitators with a far right narrative.
They do not have the solution to your problems, or the will to strategise one if all they have to offer is placing blame upon the worlds weakest people, refuge seekers.
We ask all genuine Celtic Supporters Clubs and individual fans to share or copy and paste this post.
I seen a video about Carrickmacross and a person wielding a knife, Was this accurate and had Carrick being taken over. I not a racist but if that was happening in my Town...................
Yeah it happened yesterday. Banty is making millions from housing immigrants, but has resulted in a lot of hostility.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 28, 2025, 01:24:36 PMYeah it happened yesterday. Banty is making millions from housing immigrants, but has resulted in a lot of hostility.
Banty is not too popular up there any more. He now has millions stuffed into the top pocket of his check short and the towns aren't as pleasant.
As appropriate a place as any fir this
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/uda-vows-to-keep-up-attacks-on-catholic-homes-in-new-housing-development/a444709073.html
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2025, 08:16:09 PMAs appropriate a place as any fir this
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/uda-vows-to-keep-up-attacks-on-catholic-homes-in-new-housing-development/a444709073.html
And that's who the Coolock mob has joined with...
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2025, 08:16:09 PMAs appropriate a place as any fir this
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/uda-vows-to-keep-up-attacks-on-catholic-homes-in-new-housing-development/a444709073.html
Descendants of planters not happy about the new plantation. ;)
New plantation.... Belfast people getting houses in Belfast is a plantation????
Copied from another forum
Last Sunday, June 1st, a serious firearms incident in Carlow saw a young man die. In the immediate aftermath the far-right flooded social media with misinformation, including describing a 'mass shooting' with 7 dead and also identifying the gunman as being 'an Iraqi'.
The man was in fact a local Irish man and was facing serious court charges for possessing illegal firearms.
On the same afternoon the racist leader and Dublin City councillor Malachy Steenson shared this pro gun propaganda.
Despite the truth about the Carlow shooting now being known Steenson has not apologised for this callous post, or explained what he believes guns should be used for in the current political situation.
We are 100% certain that if a Republican or left-wing figure made such a statement the media and the political police would come calling. Different rules for Steenson, Pepper and their ilk.
More on the Fascist lying fest after the Carliw incident....
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2025/0611/1517713-carlow-shooting-how-misinformation-took-hold-in-hours/
Social media seems to be completely overran with these tools, with incessant far right comments on the simplest of posts. I saw a yank tourist post yesterday enjoying their time in Dublin and their post was filled with comments about how Ireland is overrun with immigrants and that it isnt safe. What's going on with this targeted push of hate? Are these paid bots or is it just the empty vessels make the most noise scenario?
Quote from: lurganblue on June 11, 2025, 09:23:15 AMSocial media seems to be completely overran with these tools, with incessant far right comments on the simplest of posts. I saw a yank tourist post yesterday enjoying their time in Dublin and their post was filled with comments about how Ireland is overrun with immigrants and that it isnt safe. What's going on with this targeted push of hate? Are these paid bots or is it just the empty vessels make the most noise scenario?
Mostly bots and Russia is behind it. They are fomenting division and unrest in every country in Europe.
That state of this.
https://x.com/kthopkins/status/1932380854799729076?s=46
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on June 11, 2025, 09:30:03 AMQuote from: lurganblue on June 11, 2025, 09:23:15 AMSocial media seems to be completely overran with these tools, with incessant far right comments on the simplest of posts. I saw a yank tourist post yesterday enjoying their time in Dublin and their post was filled with comments about how Ireland is overrun with immigrants and that it isnt safe. What's going on with this targeted push of hate? Are these paid bots or is it just the empty vessels make the most noise scenario?
Mostly bots and Russia is behind it. They are fomenting division and unrest in every country in Europe.
I'm sure bots/Russia/china are partly behind it but the algorithms used to decide what content you see also play a huge part.
You watch content on a particular subject, you are more likely to see more of that same subject appear in your feed, which actually skews your overall view of things. You're not actually seeing other contradictory content - which leads you to believe that everyone out there has this pov. Social media has a lot to answer for when it comes to polarised views and even knowing that, it's really difficult to get a balanced view on anything online.
I was at a talk by the guy who created the internet and the theme was why he regretted creating the internet. This is exactly why...
Even the likes of that stuff in Ballymena the last night or two has influences on social media etc. It's rife.
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on June 11, 2025, 09:30:03 AMQuote from: lurganblue on June 11, 2025, 09:23:15 AMSocial media seems to be completely overran with these tools, with incessant far right comments on the simplest of posts. I saw a yank tourist post yesterday enjoying their time in Dublin and their post was filled with comments about how Ireland is overrun with immigrants and that it isnt safe. What's going on with this targeted push of hate? Are these paid bots or is it just the empty vessels make the most noise scenario?
Mostly bots and Russia is behind it. They are fomenting division and unrest in every country in Europe.
Lol.
I guess it then must be Bots and Russia are responsible for the increase in immigration too?
Sometimes the obvious answer to a problem is right in front of you.
You condoning the extremists then?
Quote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 10:20:55 AMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on June 11, 2025, 09:30:03 AMQuote from: lurganblue on June 11, 2025, 09:23:15 AMSocial media seems to be completely overran with these tools, with incessant far right comments on the simplest of posts. I saw a yank tourist post yesterday enjoying their time in Dublin and their post was filled with comments about how Ireland is overrun with immigrants and that it isnt safe. What's going on with this targeted push of hate? Are these paid bots or is it just the empty vessels make the most noise scenario?
Mostly bots and Russia is behind it. They are fomenting division and unrest in every country in Europe.
Lol.
I guess it then must be Bots and Russia are responsible for the increase in immigration too?
Sometimes the obvious answer to a problem is right in front of you.
A 'lol' moment? .... A race into the gutter
Quote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 10:20:55 AMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on June 11, 2025, 09:30:03 AMQuote from: lurganblue on June 11, 2025, 09:23:15 AMSocial media seems to be completely overran with these tools, with incessant far right comments on the simplest of posts. I saw a yank tourist post yesterday enjoying their time in Dublin and their post was filled with comments about how Ireland is overrun with immigrants and that it isnt safe. What's going on with this targeted push of hate? Are these paid bots or is it just the empty vessels make the most noise scenario?
Mostly bots and Russia is behind it. They are fomenting division and unrest in every country in Europe.
Lol.
I guess it then must be Bots and Russia are responsible for the increase in immigration too?
Sometimes the obvious answer to a problem is right in front of you.
You think those desperate ME migrants on the Poland-Belarus border appeared there from thin air? Who transported them there and for what purpose?
Russia has learned to weaponise the immigration issue and use it to promote far right knuckledragger parties all across Europe, e.g. AfD. Most far right knuckle dragger parties across Europe are also pro-Russia and anti-EU so it's a win-win for them.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2025, 10:48:27 AMYou condoning the extremists then?
Absolutely not.
But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.
Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.
** edit
Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 11:11:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2025, 10:48:27 AMYou condoning the extremists then?
Absolutely not.
But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.
Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.
And you just condone it again with your next post
3's a charm...
Acceptance of a situation doesn't mean I condone it. It really doesn't.
I don't have to be 100% with you not be against you. Come on.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 11:11:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2025, 10:48:27 AMYou condoning the extremists then?
Absolutely not.
But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.
Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.
** edit
Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.
Thats a very good point. But since it's Kilcoo I'm sure whats said will be vile anyway :D
Quote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 11:11:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2025, 10:48:27 AMYou condoning the extremists then?
Absolutely not.
But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.
Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.
** edit
Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.
And yet on the immigration debate, the Russian bots are there online for all to see, stirring the pot.
BTW, good to know you're a lot more accommodating when one of 'our own' rapes and/or murders a young girl. The old tribalism again eh?
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on June 11, 2025, 11:32:12 AMQuote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 11:11:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2025, 10:48:27 AMYou condoning the extremists then?
Absolutely not.
But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.
Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.
** edit
Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.
And yet on the immigration debate, the Russian bots are there online for all to see, stirring the pot.
BTW, good to know you're a lot more accommodating when one of 'our own' rapes and/or murders a young girl. The old tribalism again eh?
And there we go again. It's like a form of McCarthyism with you folks. Don't you dare consider us. Don't you dare probe our thoughts. Either get 100% on board with us or you are a witch.
—-
I'm not telling you that tribalism is right, or just, or better.
But i'm telling you it is real. Very real. And every single person on this earth is guilty of it to some level.
Even you.
Even you.
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/canon-patrick-mcentee-found-guilty-of-sex-abuse-of-school-pupils-T2S2MXQQTJFU3N22O5TN4UDY7Q/ (https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/canon-patrick-mcentee-found-guilty-of-sex-abuse-of-school-pupils-T2S2MXQQTJFU3N22O5TN4UDY7Q/)
Ok, when are we going to burn down all the parochial houses around the country?
Quote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 11:11:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2025, 10:48:27 AMYou condoning the extremists then?
Absolutely not.
But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.
Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.
** edit
Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.
Na. That's a load of enabling nonsense and exactly what the "influencers" online are looking to create.
They are using the immigration issue to widen the problem, so that it's not just an immigration issue, it's a skin colour problem. Perfect example is Ballymena, a working man and his family from Philippines had his car and house burned out cause the mob decided to cause his skin didn't fit in with theirs.
I know staff who work in the Lourdes Hospital in Drogheda who are all been abused on wards and on the streets, cause of their skin colour. Their kids in school are getting it too and them here years.
Immigration is the flame they using to ignite their own twisted hatred and bitterness towards others. I know some who have completely flipped and it's not about immigration, it's blaming others for their own sad existence and lack of drive and motivation to make anything of their lives. They've never left their own eircode bar a odd trip to Spain to take in the culture of Irish Bars in their Celtic and United/Liverpool/Arsenal tops to cheer on likes of Saka, Salah and Co which is terrible ironic as they'd not let them move in beside them.
It's dangerous, anonymous Facebook accounts posting rumour and scaring people, telling them they should be afraid, using the emotive threats to children and woman to cause tension and division. They failed at the local elections and this seemed to only drive them onto new extremes.
Is immigration perfect? No, not at all, but what's happening is beyond that and I struggle to see how people can't see it's been used way out of proportion.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 11:58:18 AMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on June 11, 2025, 11:32:12 AMQuote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 11:11:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2025, 10:48:27 AMYou condoning the extremists then?
Absolutely not.
But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.
Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.
** edit
Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.
And yet on the immigration debate, the Russian bots are there online for all to see, stirring the pot.
BTW, good to know you're a lot more accommodating when one of 'our own' rapes and/or murders a young girl. The old tribalism again eh?
And there we go again. It's like a form of McCarthyism with you folks. Don't you dare consider us. Don't you dare probe our thoughts. Either get 100% on board with us or you are a witch.
—-
I'm not telling you that tribalism is right, or just, or better.
But i'm telling you it is real. Very real. And every single person on this earth is guilty of it to some level.
Even you.
Even you.
Oh aye, how is it then that when some young girl is sexually assaulted some people can see past the race of the alleged perpetrators and put it down to them being bad men/boys and others go and burn out the houses of people who had f**k all to do with the attack?
It is tribalism or that fact they those doing the burning out are a bunch of racist knuckledragging morons?
You're a braindead too btw trying to excuse away this shite.
Police came and told us to close up earlier .. around 4pm went for a dander round Ballymena, quiet at the minute but you can see lads and lassies heading towards somewhere
The street where a lot of stuff is going on the houses had union jacks front and centre tapped to their windows in case they get targeted!
The good weather will generate a crowd also.. expecting more riots tonight
Wee Jeff, Tweedy and the priest mcentee no doubt will be quaking.. oh wait they'll be grand
Quote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 11:11:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2025, 10:48:27 AMYou condoning the extremists then?
Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others".
Unfortunately there is a lack of tribal loyalty amongst men in society. They will sell eachother out the first chance they get to impress a female. For example many of the fights outside nightclubs every weekend are started by men trying to show off and compete for the females attention. You could call it "dick measuring". Another example is how men often ditch their friends when they find a partner.
Females on the other hand are more likely to have loyalty to their own gender. This is shown by the strength of the feminist movement. They will stick up for eachother if they see any wrong doing.
This all comes down to our animal instincts, men having to compete with eachother in order to breed.
It is ironic that they display the union flag on their windows given that it has foreign origins too. The flag would have originated in England. The United Kingdom existed between England and Scotland before Ireland was added to it. I was reading comments on Facebook from Ballymena people saying they will help anyone out if they need any union flags for their windows.
Larne Leisure centre being burnt by folk from Larne
Quote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 11:11:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2025, 10:48:27 AMYou condoning the extremists then?
Absolutely not.
But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.
Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.
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Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.
Nah. Ballyholland would just get hammered and the kilcoo ones would laugh as usual.
Quote from: Brendan on June 11, 2025, 09:45:58 PMLarne Leisure centre being burnt by folk from Larne
Who else would it be? Nobody in their right mind would go there
Is there any difference between loyalists and right wing 'nationalists' now. WhatsApp groups I've had to leave due to the absolute rascist fascist content so called mates are posting. Blue shirts come to mind. No doubt they sing viva la quitea brigada. Saddens me.
Gordon Lyon's told the whole country they were moved to larne leisure centre, all pissed because he wasn't consulted. What a dopey bald ****
It saddens me that those who knew that the displaced families were holed up there (apparently) the other night before moving on told the arsonist/thugs/racists that information before burning it down!
I used to laugh when the girlfriend (now wife) came to our house, my da used to say 'hide the matches' lol
On Larne there last friday. It's abit of a eye opener!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2025, 06:06:20 PMPolice came and told us to close up earlier .. around 4pm went for a dander round Ballymena, quiet at the minute but you can see lads and lassies heading towards somewhere
The street where a lot of stuff is going on the houses had union jacks front and centre tapped to their windows in case they get targeted!
The good weather will generate a crowd also.. expecting more riots tonight
Wee Jeff, Tweedy and the priest mcentee no doubt will be quaking.. oh wait they'll be grand
David Tweed is dead.
The cnuts have set fire to Larne leisure centre where some of the families had gone when they left their homes. Hopefully they took the families out of town to somewhere civilised like Ballycastle.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjdzv79l1emo
You really have to wonder what the future is for unionism/loyalism. Any unionists i work with, their children all in uni on the 'mainland' with the vast majority not returning. Meanwhile we are left to pick up the tab with these narrow minded bigots. How they are brought into a united Ireland, whether its two federal states or one i do not know.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 12, 2025, 12:08:00 AMThe cnuts have set fire to Larne leisure centre where some of the families had gone when they left their homes. Hopefully they took the families out of town to somewhere civilised like Ballycastle.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjdzv79l1emo
Two peelers standing watching young fellas rolling a big wheelie bin onto a fire burning on the train crossing in Coleraine.
Totally normal behaviour. :o
In fairness to the PSNI, such behaviour is designed to draw them into confrontation. How they react can escalate or de-escalate a situation. That said I'm sure they'd have been a bit more pumped up if this was in Derry...
Quote from: general_lee on June 12, 2025, 10:30:54 AMIn fairness to the PSNI, such behaviour is designed to draw them into confrontation. How they react can escalate or de-escalate a situation. That said I'm sure they'd have been a bit more pumped up if this was in Derry...
They certainly didn't react the same way with the two women putting the sticker on the ATM in Belfast.
I understand the escalate/de-escalate debate, but surely with body worn camera's a few visits first thing the next morning would ensure those involved that they will be held to account but they never seem to be so there's no deterrent.
I imagine they can't do it overnight and it would take a while. You would hope that they will be knocking on doors though - I think that happened a lot on flag protests etc.
Seen videos of so called "snatch squads" of cops in vans going about and picking them up
Quote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2025, 10:45:13 AMQuote from: general_lee on June 12, 2025, 10:30:54 AMIn fairness to the PSNI, such behaviour is designed to draw them into confrontation. How they react can escalate or de-escalate a situation. That said I'm sure they'd have been a bit more pumped up if this was in Derry...
They certainly didn't react the same way with the two women putting the sticker on the ATM in Belfast.
I understand the escalate/de-escalate debate, but surely with body worn camera's a few visits first thing the next morning would ensure those involved that they will be held to account but they never seem to be so there's no deterrent.
What's the ATM sticker thing all about?
Just supporting the local community activities, like Camlough last year ;)
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2025, 10:55:09 AMQuote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2025, 10:45:13 AMQuote from: general_lee on June 12, 2025, 10:30:54 AMIn fairness to the PSNI, such behaviour is designed to draw them into confrontation. How they react can escalate or de-escalate a situation. That said I'm sure they'd have been a bit more pumped up if this was in Derry...
They certainly didn't react the same way with the two women putting the sticker on the ATM in Belfast.
I understand the escalate/de-escalate debate, but surely with body worn camera's a few visits first thing the next morning would ensure those involved that they will be held to account but they never seem to be so there's no deterrent.
What's the ATM sticker thing all about?
A pensioner arrested for putting a pro-Palestine sticker on a bank link during a peaceful protest in Belfast. Was bout 4/5 people protesting. Sticker had been removed by time police got there... not that it warranted an arrest anyway.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/pensioner-arrested-during-pro-palestine-protest-outside-belfast-bank-will-not-stay-silent-lawyer-says/a1676756723.html
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 12, 2025, 11:55:13 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2025, 10:55:09 AMQuote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2025, 10:45:13 AMQuote from: general_lee on June 12, 2025, 10:30:54 AMIn fairness to the PSNI, such behaviour is designed to draw them into confrontation. How they react can escalate or de-escalate a situation. That said I'm sure they'd have been a bit more pumped up if this was in Derry...
They certainly didn't react the same way with the two women putting the sticker on the ATM in Belfast.
I understand the escalate/de-escalate debate, but surely with body worn camera's a few visits first thing the next morning would ensure those involved that they will be held to account but they never seem to be so there's no deterrent.
What's the ATM sticker thing all about?
A pensioner arrested for putting a pro-Palestine sticker on a bank link during a peaceful protest in Belfast. Was bout 4/5 people protesting. Sticker had been removed by time police got there... not that it warranted an arrest anyway.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/pensioner-arrested-during-pro-palestine-protest-outside-belfast-bank-will-not-stay-silent-lawyer-says/a1676756723.html
I see. A Jewish woman arrested for a pro-Palestine message. Might that be considered anti-Semitic?
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2025, 12:06:06 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 12, 2025, 11:55:13 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2025, 10:55:09 AMQuote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2025, 10:45:13 AMQuote from: general_lee on June 12, 2025, 10:30:54 AMIn fairness to the PSNI, such behaviour is designed to draw them into confrontation. How they react can escalate or de-escalate a situation. That said I'm sure they'd have been a bit more pumped up if this was in Derry...
They certainly didn't react the same way with the two women putting the sticker on the ATM in Belfast.
I understand the escalate/de-escalate debate, but surely with body worn camera's a few visits first thing the next morning would ensure those involved that they will be held to account but they never seem to be so there's no deterrent.
What's the ATM sticker thing all about?
A pensioner arrested for putting a pro-Palestine sticker on a bank link during a peaceful protest in Belfast. Was bout 4/5 people protesting. Sticker had been removed by time police got there... not that it warranted an arrest anyway.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/pensioner-arrested-during-pro-palestine-protest-outside-belfast-bank-will-not-stay-silent-lawyer-says/a1676756723.html
I see. A Jewish woman arrested for a pro-Palestine message. Might that be considered anti-Semitic?
I understand tone of yer question!... I think most decent people now know the antisemitic trope used by Zionists is purely cynical.. unfortunately it took down Jeremy Corbyn's bid to be Prime Minister
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 12, 2025, 12:46:35 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2025, 12:06:06 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 12, 2025, 11:55:13 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2025, 10:55:09 AMQuote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2025, 10:45:13 AMQuote from: general_lee on June 12, 2025, 10:30:54 AMIn fairness to the PSNI, such behaviour is designed to draw them into confrontation. How they react can escalate or de-escalate a situation. That said I'm sure they'd have been a bit more pumped up if this was in Derry...
They certainly didn't react the same way with the two women putting the sticker on the ATM in Belfast.
I understand the escalate/de-escalate debate, but surely with body worn camera's a few visits first thing the next morning would ensure those involved that they will be held to account but they never seem to be so there's no deterrent.
What's the ATM sticker thing all about?
A pensioner arrested for putting a pro-Palestine sticker on a bank link during a peaceful protest in Belfast. Was bout 4/5 people protesting. Sticker had been removed by time police got there... not that it warranted an arrest anyway.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/pensioner-arrested-during-pro-palestine-protest-outside-belfast-bank-will-not-stay-silent-lawyer-says/a1676756723.html
I see. A Jewish woman arrested for a pro-Palestine message. Might that be considered anti-Semitic?
I understand tone of yer question!... I think most decent people now know the antisemitic trope used by Zionists is purely cynical.. unfortunately it took down Jeremy Corbyn's bid to be Prime Minister
Yes, but Israel , western governments and their media clearly don't care what most decent people think. If they say something is anti-Semitic, then that's what it is. It's all about justifying the genocide
Moygashel Bonfire Association as they call themselves ::) has called on supporters to go to anti-immigrant protest in Portadown tonite. Lovely people : (
Probly be called off with that rain... rioters don't go out in the rain!
Ballymena, Coleraine, Larne, Portadown... Any idea what sh1thole will be next? A whole new lease of life for the planter stock, thought they'd stood on their last neck
Quote from: JoG2 on June 12, 2025, 03:40:40 PMBallymena, Coleraine, Larne, Portadown... Any idea what sh1thole will be next? A whole new lease of life for the planter stock, thought they'd stood on their last neck
Surpised Mutantards isn't part of the mix, but in fairness not even immigrants and refugees from the various war torn countries want to move there.
Protest planned for Grimavady tonight...keep the funny place names coming
Quote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2025, 04:03:39 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 12, 2025, 03:40:40 PMBallymena, Coleraine, Larne, Portadown... Any idea what sh1thole will be next? A whole new lease of life for the planter stock, thought they'd stood on their last neck
Surpised Mutantards isn't part of the mix, but in fairness not even immigrants and refugees from the various war torn countries want to move there.
Quote from: Brendan on June 12, 2025, 04:21:28 PMProtest planned for Grimavady tonight...keep the funny place names coming
Quote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2025, 04:03:39 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 12, 2025, 03:40:40 PMBallymena, Coleraine, Larne, Portadown... Any idea what sh1thole will be next? A whole new lease of life for the planter stock, thought they'd stood on their last neck
Surpised Mutantards isn't part of the mix, but in fairness not even immigrants and refugees from the various war torn countries want to move there.
Mutantards will be hard topped!
I would put my money on Antrim town, definitely ticks the sh1thole box as a starting point.
Quote from: LC on June 12, 2025, 06:55:39 PMI would put my money on Antrim town, definitely ticks the sh1thole box as a starting point.
Definitely a trend there. Carrickfergus or Bangor will have to get in on the act next.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 12, 2025, 09:21:50 AMYou really have to wonder what the future is for unionism/loyalism. Any unionists i work with, their children all in uni on the 'mainland' with the vast majority not returning. Meanwhile we are left to pick up the tab with these narrow minded bigots. How they are brought into a united Ireland, whether its two federal states or one i do not know.
There is no future for Loyalism. Even the English hate them. They are a complete scourge on normal everyday people.
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 13, 2025, 09:14:50 AMQuote from: Walter Cronc on June 12, 2025, 09:21:50 AMYou really have to wonder what the future is for unionism/loyalism. Any unionists i work with, their children all in uni on the 'mainland' with the vast majority not returning. Meanwhile we are left to pick up the tab with these narrow minded bigots. How they are brought into a united Ireland, whether its two federal states or one i do not know.
There is no future for Loyalism. Even the English hate them. They are a complete scourge on normal everyday people.
Loyalism is moving to a new era. They see the writing on the wall, they have lost the battle to keep nationalists as 2nd class citizens. Every years things level up a bit more and they see that as something being taken from them, an eroding of their "kulture". Nationalists are no longer the minority they once were, that were easy to subvert and control. So Now they are directing that same authoritarian aggression at a different minority. The extreme right wing and loyalism go hand in hand. They've just changed the boogeyman.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 13, 2025, 09:45:16 AMQuote from: paddyjohn on June 13, 2025, 09:14:50 AMQuote from: Walter Cronc on June 12, 2025, 09:21:50 AMYou really have to wonder what the future is for unionism/loyalism. Any unionists i work with, their children all in uni on the 'mainland' with the vast majority not returning. Meanwhile we are left to pick up the tab with these narrow minded bigots. How they are brought into a united Ireland, whether its two federal states or one i do not know.
There is no future for Loyalism. Even the English hate them. They are a complete scourge on normal everyday people.
Loyalism is moving to a new era. They see the writing on the wall, they have lost the battle to keep nationalists as 2nd class citizens. Every years things level up a bit more and they see that as something being taken from them, an eroding of their "kulture". Nationalists are no longer the minority they once were, that were easy to subvert and control. So Now they are directing that same authoritarian aggression at a different minority. The extreme right wing and loyalism go hand in hand. They've just changed the boogeyman.
Yup, if their political leaders don't keep Loyalist voters attention focused on it being "someone else taking their dinner" those voters might have the space to question what the hell the politicians they have voted for have done for them.
Although that strategy, with different targets, might also be true of politicians of all stripes.
Some of our nazifascists wetting themselves with excitement over the 'dynamic working class taking over the streets" in the 6 Cos ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2025, 10:42:27 AMSome of our nazifascists wetting themselves with excitement over the 'dynamic working class taking over the streets" in the 6 Cos ;D
Will be a few wetting themselves first night in the slammer
Quote from: LC on June 12, 2025, 06:55:39 PMI would put my money on Antrim town, definitely ticks the sh1thole box as a starting point.
The thing is, if they wrecked that kip it would end up looking better.
What's the plan by the security forces going forward?
You could envisage mass protests across the north in many towns at the same time , knowing the police couldn't manage them all simultaneously
Surely heavy punishments is the only way to deter this getting out of hand?
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 13, 2025, 02:35:32 PMWhat's the plan by the security forces going forward?
You could envisage mass protests across the north in many towns at the same time , knowing the police couldn't manage them all simultaneously
Surely heavy punishments is the only way to deter this getting out of hand?
I can imagine that is what the weekend will bring, multiple protests and disorder across the place.
Especially if the weather is half decent.
Getting things going for the 12th.
RTE report that the PSNI have made 2 arrests, Im inspired by their appropriate aggressive response to this mayhem.
More than 60 police officers have been hurt during the rioting.
A PSNI spokesperson said: "Disorder and violence broke out in Portadown with officers coming under sustained attack with heavy masonry and fireworks thrown at them.
"Officers used various public order tactics including water cannon to keep the public safe with no reports of injury to the public or damage to property."
Two males, aged 14 and 20, were arrested on suspicion of riotous behaviour and remain in custody.
Make the same amount arrested as the 2 people protesting outside the bank .
Quote from: Brendan on June 12, 2025, 04:21:28 PMProtest planned for Grimavady tonight...keep the funny place names coming
Quote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2025, 04:03:39 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 12, 2025, 03:40:40 PMBallymena, Coleraine, Larne, Portadown... Any idea what sh1thole will be next? A whole new lease of life for the planter stock, thought they'd stood on their last neck
Surpised Mutantards isn't part of the mix, but in fairness not even immigrants and refugees from the various war torn countries want to move there.
Larnia.
Stolen from a work colleague who happens to be from Mutantards which he laughed about and him from there.
28 arrested in total include some wee "angel" from Ballymena who his Granny says he's a great wee fella and if anyone disagrees she's going to pull their faces off.
He was setting fire to a house which he knew there were people in it. FFS.
Tough work being a "citizen journalist".
https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2025/0707/1522330-philip-dwyer-court/
Quote from: Rossfan on July 08, 2025, 09:08:31 AMTough work being a "citizen journalist".
https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2025/0707/1522330-philip-dwyer-court/
Almost as if random people can't break the law and claim to be a journalist and get journalistic privilege. Even an actual journalist would need a letter from their editor.
Give that woman back her votes that ye tore up.....
From the I Times --
Kildare Street on Tuesday afternoon after anti-immigrant protesters blocked the main entrance to Leinster House.
The protesters, may of them carrying tricolour flags, had earlier been part of a rally and march on O'Connell Street under the banner Dissolve the Dáil.
About 150 protesters then marched to Kildare Street, where they congregated around the main gates of the complex. They would not move back when requested to by gardaí and Leinster House security staff.
Extra gardaí were drafted into the area. Kildare Street and surrounding streets were blocked off to traffic during this time. The crowd chanted anti-immigrant and anti-politics statements, with some shouting "traitors" and "collaborators" to staff and visitors entering and leaving the complex.
The rally was organised by Kerry businesswoman Michelle Keane, who was an unsuccessful candidate in the last general election. She has taken a High Court action against the State claiming that votes were "torn" out of ballot boxes in Kerry.
Those who attended the rally began congregating outside the Dáil at 2pm and were still blocking the entrance two hours later.
By evening, the protesters were no longer at the front gate and traffic had returned to normal.
Is she the one that met with Loyalists?
Quote from: clarshack on July 08, 2025, 09:22:59 PMIs she the one that met with Loyalists?
Yep. They all do.
Another "citizen journalist"(sic).... not even a slap on the wrist....
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/livestreaming-citizen-journalist-was-riling-up-immigration-protesters/a638744570.html
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2025, 12:05:52 PMAnother "citizen journalist"(sic).... not even a slap on the wrist....
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/livestreaming-citizen-journalist-was-riling-up-immigration-protesters/a638744570.html
I've told you before these lads are only a distraction. I wouldn't waste my time posting this up.
Take more interest in the real issues - Housing, Democracy, the overbearing influence of the EU, the continued immigration of our youth from rural areas, Our Health system, the Fianna Fail - Fine Gael monopoly on Government, The lack of a creditable opposition......
Is it people that need government handouts that do most of the protesting, cause it's being sold that it will affect their benefits? And the rest are just racists?
If your life is being affected by a very small percentage of immigrants/asylum/migrants who come with virtually nothing then you need to give your head a wobble...
The girls are being attacked is a good sound bite, but I've yet to see them burning down too many churches over the years, so Father Pat was ok.
Also there has been a housing crisis in the south long before this has been an issue
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 01:10:31 PMI'll bite...
Take more interest in the real issues -
Housing
A disaster, needs to be an emergency declared for say 3 years, and if needs be CPO derelict run down properties, build sociable and affordable homes with a quick planning system.
Democracy
We have elections, people stand as candidates, voters decide. What's the problem.,
the overbearing influence of the EU,
We are voluntary members of a 27 sovereign States co op.
Free access to a narket of 450,000,000.
An awful lot of jobs dependent on EU membership. We don't want to go back to the 1950s/Albania.
the continued immigration* of our youth from rural areas
Voluntary now unlike my young days or our parents when it was a necessity. My pair both have jobs near home. Neighbours 2 sons work full time from home at jobs in Dublin and London. Relation works in Dublin 2 days, from home 3 days.
Our Health system,
Must do much better but is Paddy and Patricia prepared to pay for it?
the Fianna Fail - Fine Gael monopoly on Government, The lack of a creditable opposition......
As said above we have elections, the people vote....
*I presume you mean emigration?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 01:16:43 PMIs it people that need government handouts that do most of the protesting, cause it's being sold that it will affect their benefits? And the rest are just racists?
If your life is being affected by a very small percentage of immigrants/asylum/migrants who come with virtually nothing then you need to give your head a wobble...
The girls are being attacked is a good sound bite, but I've yet to see them burning down too many churches over the years, so Father Pat was ok.
Also there has been a housing crisis in the south long before this has been an issue
The Unemployed protest because they have the time to protest. The
'we need to protect our women' is an older than old scare tactic.
Of course the Housing Crisis is not new. All the more to be upset about it as an issue.
The lack of incentives by the government to make this country a place young people would want to live in, contributed to and grow old in - is the worst part of modern society in taking care of it young people.
Kids have left for years as opportunities elsewhere have provided a better life, staying here isn't the be and end of all, the young ones see the world differently, the experience might work out and if it doesn't the can always come home. But from what I can see there are great jobs here, better from when I grew up and I'd no incentives to stay, so I'm not sure what why they should get incentives and we didn't
The world is a lot smaller than before and the ability to facetime mammy and the rest is probably better than the once a week trek to the parents house
The housing needs sorting... Whats wrong with making new towns/villages? when was teh last time a new town was built, rather than an older one being made bigger and making services for everyone there more difficult to use
Rossfan -
To be honest - I wasn't looking for a bite.
It was just a statement that distractions like your post and just highlighting people who are in the main fools.
We are in unsettled times. We are in a constant flux of lies and half truths.
It has become impossible to almost discern between the truth and the lie.
Journalism is at it's lowest ebb and the fear of being cancelled or ostracised huge.
This has always happened - We only have to look at our own Island and the lies we were feed from both the UK and Ireland about - The Famine, The Civil war, The Northern Problem, Northern Catholics, The IRA, Civil rights, Magdellan laundries.
Both Downing Street and Leinster House were complicit in many lies.
Much on the complicity south of the border had to do with Irelands reliance on people emigrating to Britain for work and not affecting their life there.
Moygashel.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 01:16:43 PMIs it people that need government handouts that do most of the protesting, cause it's being sold that it will affect their benefits? And the rest are just racists?
If they're on a housing list and think new arrivals are getting equal or preferential treatment, they get annoyed.
Also, they probably don't like when immigrants arrive and start working for a living and better themselves.
Quote from: Dag Dog on July 09, 2025, 02:55:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 01:16:43 PMIs it people that need government handouts that do most of the protesting, cause it's being sold that it will affect their benefits? And the rest are just racists?
If they're on a housing list and think new arrivals are getting equal or preferential treatment, they get annoyed.
Also, they probably don't like when immigrants arrive and start working for a living and better themselves.
Like this one from today's Examiner ?
An unemployed father of four who could not explain almost €60,000 lodged into his accounts over four months and was receiving six other people's Pandemic Unemployment Payment (PUP) has been jailed.
Stefan Muntean, a Romanian national with an address at Meadowbrook, Athlone, Co Westmeath, was handed a three-year sentence by Judge Keenan Johnson at Mullingar Circuit Criminal Court.
The 39-year-old, who was on social welfare, pleaded guilty to money laundering using his account in his local credit union and the finance app Revolut, and welfare fraud in 2022.
The investigation was triggered when the Garda National Economic Crime Bureau's financial intelligence unit became aware of suspicious transactions.
Athlone-based Detective Garda Kenneth Nerney said that from July 1 to October 24, 2022, Muntean had €48,752 put through his Revolut account. The source of these funds could not be identified, with Muntean telling officers that unnamed friends or relatives transferred some money to him.
Unexplained cash lodgements to his credit union account came to about €11,000 from May 18 to November 25, 2022. Detective Garda James Martin stated that the probe identified six PPS numbers of individuals not residing in Ireland at the time but who were receiving PUP support, totalling €16,786, and which was also paid into Muntean's credit union account.
The PUP was a temporary social welfare payment for employees and self-employed individuals who were out of work due to covid-19. Judge Johnson described them as serious offences that were a fraud on the State.
Over that time, he spent €90,000 in an online casino and withdrew €68,622 from his gambling account. Muntean, with prior convictions for theft and trespass, had been entitled to a carer's allowance to look after his father and had worked intermittently.
Gardaí accepted he had no display of wealth, the court heard. Desmond Dockery SC, defending, said his client was admitting he was reckless in allowing his account to be used for the pandemic payments.
In a plea for leniency, the defence said Muntean, who came to Ireland almost 20 years ago, was a member of the Roma community who suffered with health issues, had a gambling habit, now lives in squalor and was estranged from his family.
The accused, who listened to the proceedings with the aid of an interpreter, did not address the court.
Passing sentence, Judge Johnson said the money laundering offence attracted a headline prison term of seven years. Taking into account his guilty plea and the mitigation, he reduced it to five years and six months.
However, he suspended two and a half years on condition that Muntean did not re-offend for five years. A concurrent two-year term was imposed for the PUP fraud.
Benefit scam is a terrible practice that should always be called out, but let's not kid ourselves that it is associated with being an immigrant. It is not unique to the immigrant population.
Immigrants not in the jurisdiction and still receiving their benefits is an issue with certain Eastern European migrants.
But who should be most annoyed by migrants (or locals) scamming welfare?
a) #CoolockIsFull Anto who lives off state handouts and doesn't pay tax...apart from the tax on cigarettes, booze, betting tax etc.
b) The squeezed middle person who gets up early in the morning, is lumped with big bills like mortgages/childcare and pays a punitive tax rate to fund the state.
It's quite a reach to suggest that the protestors are conscientious citizens upset at wastage of public funds.
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 09, 2025, 02:47:46 PMMoygashel.
A classy place Moygashel. Imagine bringing your children to watch this go up.. #culture.
And they've plenty of like minded bedfellows down south...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4ygekzpv7o
Is the world more racist now than ever before?
We need to reach...deez keedz
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2566511/
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/psni-investigate-burning-michelle-oneill-30449872 (https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/psni-investigate-burning-michelle-oneill-30449872)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-66149441 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-66149441)
More hate crimes from Moygashel in 2023
Does this nonsense about "treating it as a hate crime" actually mean anything? Is it just something the PSNI say just to look like they're doing something?
What was the outcome of these supposed hate crimes from 2023? Was anything done? Anybody arrested? Fined? Brought to court? Is there any way of finding out if ANYTHING was actually done?
Churning out nonsense statements year after year is just ballix . No wonder we see this again and again
Police won't intervene when a bonfire is beside a substation that powers a hospital.
Its just unreal how normalised this stuff is, as much as people pretend otherwise its a different country.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
Nah, no more than there is more anti-Semitism. Labelling has just got more intense and highlighted. Labelling is used to control the Narrative. To create issues that are not always there. To give minorities to much power and cause resentment, rather than creating a form of equality.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 09, 2025, 10:14:32 PMPolice won't intervene when a bonfire is beside a substation that powers a hospital.
Its just unreal how normalised this stuff is, as much as people pretend otherwise its a different country.
The intervening should have been done at the foundation level of that tower. Coming in now and saying stop is just stupid.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
It's not,but the online world would have you thinking it is. Most people are decent
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 10:23:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
Nah, no more than there is more anti-Semitism. Labelling has just got more intense and highlighted. Labelling is used to control the Narrative. To create issues that are not always there. To give minorities to much power and cause resentment, rather than creating a form of equality.
To be fair, the internet has allowed for an increased level of racism. And as such, an increase in the calling out of that racism.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
No. Slavery all over the world, the many millions needlessly killed by Nazis and even us Irish may not apply for jobs in America back then Irish men was regularly depicted as monkeys and gorillas.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
I don't think so. Certainly alot more mixed than before.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 09, 2025, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 10:23:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
Nah, no more than there is more anti-Semitism. Labelling has just got more intense and highlighted. Labelling is used to control the Narrative. To create issues that are not always there. To give minorities to much power and cause resentment, rather than creating a form of equality.
To be fair, the internet has allowed for an increased level of racism. And as such, an increase in the calling out of that racism.
Racism and Women rights card has allowed people like Eni Aluko influence ITV in not having Ian Wright as a pundit for the Women's Euros.
Wrights enthusiasm and love of the Womens game as well as his connection and attraction to a watching male audience is a loss. But once Aluko played the '
He's taking the jobs of women card' - ITV's hands were tied and her own appearance was assured.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 11:49:42 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 09, 2025, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 10:23:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
Nah, no more than there is more anti-Semitism. Labelling has just got more intense and highlighted. Labelling is used to control the Narrative. To create issues that are not always there. To give minorities to much power and cause resentment, rather than creating a form of equality.
To be fair, the internet has allowed for an increased level of racism. And as such, an increase in the calling out of that racism.
Racism and Women rights card has allowed people like Eni Aluko influence ITV in not having Ian Wright as a pundit for the Women's Euros.
Wrights enthusiasm and love of the Womens game as well as his connection and attraction to a watching male audience is a loss. But once Aluko played the 'He's taking the jobs of women card' - ITV's hands were tied and her own appearance was assured.
ITV supported Wright in that row not Aluko. Aluko had a fair point in that there are very limited opportunities for woman pundits in comparison to men's. She just shouldn't have mentioned Wright, who as you said, has been a strong advocate for Woman's football. If anything from that incident, it was Aluko that got a backlash not Wright.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 11:46:02 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 11:49:42 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 09, 2025, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 10:23:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
Nah, no more than there is more anti-Semitism. Labelling has just got more intense and highlighted. Labelling is used to control the Narrative. To create issues that are not always there. To give minorities to much power and cause resentment, rather than creating a form of equality.
To be fair, the internet has allowed for an increased level of racism. And as such, an increase in the calling out of that racism.
Racism and Women rights card has allowed people like Eni Aluko influence ITV in not having Ian Wright as a pundit for the Women's Euros.
Wrights enthusiasm and love of the Womens game as well as his connection and attraction to a watching male audience is a loss. But once Aluko played the 'He's taking the jobs of women card' - ITV's hands were tied and her own appearance was assured.
ITV supported Wright in that row not Aluko. Aluko had a fair point in that there are very limited opportunities for woman pundits in comparison to men's. She just shouldn't have mentioned Wright, who as you said, has been a strong advocate for Woman's football. If anything from that incident, it was Aluko that got a backlash not Wright.
But actions speak louder than words and ITV's actions show the contrary.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 12:05:25 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 11:46:02 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 11:49:42 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 09, 2025, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 10:23:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
Nah, no more than there is more anti-Semitism. Labelling has just got more intense and highlighted. Labelling is used to control the Narrative. To create issues that are not always there. To give minorities to much power and cause resentment, rather than creating a form of equality.
To be fair, the internet has allowed for an increased level of racism. And as such, an increase in the calling out of that racism.
Racism and Women rights card has allowed people like Eni Aluko influence ITV in not having Ian Wright as a pundit for the Women's Euros.
Wrights enthusiasm and love of the Womens game as well as his connection and attraction to a watching male audience is a loss. But once Aluko played the 'He's taking the jobs of women card' - ITV's hands were tied and her own appearance was assured.
ITV supported Wright in that row not Aluko. Aluko had a fair point in that there are very limited opportunities for woman pundits in comparison to men's. She just shouldn't have mentioned Wright, who as you said, has been a strong advocate for Woman's football. If anything from that incident, it was Aluko that got a backlash not Wright.
But actions speak louder than words and ITV's actions show the contrary.
Wright said it was nothing to do with his row with Aluko.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 12:24:41 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 12:05:25 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 11:46:02 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 11:49:42 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 09, 2025, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 10:23:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
Nah, no more than there is more anti-Semitism. Labelling has just got more intense and highlighted. Labelling is used to control the Narrative. To create issues that are not always there. To give minorities to much power and cause resentment, rather than creating a form of equality.
To be fair, the internet has allowed for an increased level of racism. And as such, an increase in the calling out of that racism.
Racism and Women rights card has allowed people like Eni Aluko influence ITV in not having Ian Wright as a pundit for the Women's Euros.
Wrights enthusiasm and love of the Womens game as well as his connection and attraction to a watching male audience is a loss. But once Aluko played the 'He's taking the jobs of women card' - ITV's hands were tied and her own appearance was assured.
ITV supported Wright in that row not Aluko. Aluko had a fair point in that there are very limited opportunities for woman pundits in comparison to men's. She just shouldn't have mentioned Wright, who as you said, has been a strong advocate for Woman's football. If anything from that incident, it was Aluko that got a backlash not Wright.
But actions speak louder than words and ITV's actions show the contrary.
Wright said it was nothing to do with his row with Aluko.
He would say that, wouldn't he?
Wrighty was the larger than large personality of the last Women's Euros.
It was a no brainer to ask Wrighty back - He knows the Women's Game - He is respected by the Male football fraternity - He attracts viewership from the male football fraternity.
We all want rights for women. For them to be treated well and have equality. To some peoples surprise equality is a two way street. Aluko played the taking women's jobs card. It wasn't about equality or ability.
Have watched very little of these Euros. Didn't recognise any pundit from flicking through the channels
Is there anyone of note in the punditry lineup?
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 12:54:39 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 12:24:41 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 12:05:25 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 11:46:02 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 11:49:42 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 09, 2025, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 10:23:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
Nah, no more than there is more anti-Semitism. Labelling has just got more intense and highlighted. Labelling is used to control the Narrative. To create issues that are not always there. To give minorities to much power and cause resentment, rather than creating a form of equality.
To be fair, the internet has allowed for an increased level of racism. And as such, an increase in the calling out of that racism.
Racism and Women rights card has allowed people like Eni Aluko influence ITV in not having Ian Wright as a pundit for the Women's Euros.
Wrights enthusiasm and love of the Womens game as well as his connection and attraction to a watching male audience is a loss. But once Aluko played the 'He's taking the jobs of women card' - ITV's hands were tied and her own appearance was assured.
ITV supported Wright in that row not Aluko. Aluko had a fair point in that there are very limited opportunities for woman pundits in comparison to men's. She just shouldn't have mentioned Wright, who as you said, has been a strong advocate for Woman's football. If anything from that incident, it was Aluko that got a backlash not Wright.
But actions speak louder than words and ITV's actions show the contrary.
Wright said it was nothing to do with his row with Aluko.
He would say that, wouldn't he?
Wrighty was the larger than large personality of the last Women's Euros.
It was a no brainer to ask Wrighty back - He knows the Women's Game - He is respected by the Male football fraternity - He attracts viewership from the male football fraternity.
We all want rights for women. For them to be treated well and have equality. To some peoples surprise equality is a two way street. Aluko played the taking women's jobs card. It wasn't about equality or ability.
You're running a narrative without knowing it's correct. That for me is one of the major dangers about the internet right there.
No men got a look in at the camogie game last weekend, but sure there was a lady doing the men's semi hurling final!
The sickener for women's equality was the same age for retirement age lol
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 01:27:06 PMYou're running a narrative without knowing it's correct. That for me is one of the major dangers about the internet right there.
Is it your first time dealing with him? ;D
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2025, 01:30:17 PMNo men got a look in at the camogie game last weekend, but sure there was a lady doing the men's semi hurling final!
The sickener for women's equality was the same age for retirement age lol
If all the women involved know the game, have maybe played and have competent analysis ability, then I have no bother with that. Putting in a token male who may not be as knowledgeable for the sake of it commentating on Camogie. It's all about the best people for the job not balancing gender numbers.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 01:27:06 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 12:54:39 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 12:24:41 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 12:05:25 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 11:46:02 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 11:49:42 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 09, 2025, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 10:23:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
Nah, no more than there is more anti-Semitism. Labelling has just got more intense and highlighted. Labelling is used to control the Narrative. To create issues that are not always there. To give minorities to much power and cause resentment, rather than creating a form of equality.
To be fair, the internet has allowed for an increased level of racism. And as such, an increase in the calling out of that racism.
Racism and Women rights card has allowed people like Eni Aluko influence ITV in not having Ian Wright as a pundit for the Women's Euros.
Wrights enthusiasm and love of the Womens game as well as his connection and attraction to a watching male audience is a loss. But once Aluko played the 'He's taking the jobs of women card' - ITV's hands were tied and her own appearance was assured.
ITV supported Wright in that row not Aluko. Aluko had a fair point in that there are very limited opportunities for woman pundits in comparison to men's. She just shouldn't have mentioned Wright, who as you said, has been a strong advocate for Woman's football. If anything from that incident, it was Aluko that got a backlash not Wright.
But actions speak louder than words and ITV's actions show the contrary.
Wright said it was nothing to do with his row with Aluko.
He would say that, wouldn't he?
Wrighty was the larger than large personality of the last Women's Euros.
It was a no brainer to ask Wrighty back - He knows the Women's Game - He is respected by the Male football fraternity - He attracts viewership from the male football fraternity.
We all want rights for women. For them to be treated well and have equality. To some peoples surprise equality is a two way street. Aluko played the taking women's jobs card. It wasn't about equality or ability.
You're running a narrative without knowing it's correct. That for me is one of the major dangers about the internet right there.
No, the narrative is pretty clear. Aluko says Wrighty a competent male is taking jobs from women in punditry.
Aluko gets the gig, Wrighty does not.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 02:58:09 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 01:27:06 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 12:54:39 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 12:24:41 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 12:05:25 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 11:46:02 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 11:49:42 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 09, 2025, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2025, 10:23:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIs the world more racist now than ever before?
Nah, no more than there is more anti-Semitism. Labelling has just got more intense and highlighted. Labelling is used to control the Narrative. To create issues that are not always there. To give minorities to much power and cause resentment, rather than creating a form of equality.
To be fair, the internet has allowed for an increased level of racism. And as such, an increase in the calling out of that racism.
Racism and Women rights card has allowed people like Eni Aluko influence ITV in not having Ian Wright as a pundit for the Women's Euros.
Wrights enthusiasm and love of the Womens game as well as his connection and attraction to a watching male audience is a loss. But once Aluko played the 'He's taking the jobs of women card' - ITV's hands were tied and her own appearance was assured.
ITV supported Wright in that row not Aluko. Aluko had a fair point in that there are very limited opportunities for woman pundits in comparison to men's. She just shouldn't have mentioned Wright, who as you said, has been a strong advocate for Woman's football. If anything from that incident, it was Aluko that got a backlash not Wright.
But actions speak louder than words and ITV's actions show the contrary.
Wright said it was nothing to do with his row with Aluko.
He would say that, wouldn't he?
Wrighty was the larger than large personality of the last Women's Euros.
It was a no brainer to ask Wrighty back - He knows the Women's Game - He is respected by the Male football fraternity - He attracts viewership from the male football fraternity.
We all want rights for women. For them to be treated well and have equality. To some peoples surprise equality is a two way street. Aluko played the taking women's jobs card. It wasn't about equality or ability.
You're running a narrative without knowing it's correct. That for me is one of the major dangers about the internet right there.
No, the narrative is pretty clear. Aluko says Wrighty a competent male is taking jobs from women in punditry.
Aluko gets the gig, Wrighty does not.
As I say, you're making up a narrative, and that's why there's an increase in "labelling". It's much easier now to project your opinion to a wider audience.
Not to mention you are implying Aluko isn't competent to talk about ladies soccer.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 02:15:50 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2025, 01:30:17 PMNo men got a look in at the camogie game last weekend, but sure there was a lady doing the men's semi hurling final!
The sickener for women's equality was the same age for retirement age lol
If all the women involved know the game, have maybe played and have competent analysis ability, then I have no bother with that. Putting in a token male who may not be as knowledgeable for the sake of it commentating on Camogie. It's all about the best people for the job not balancing gender numbers.
So how many women are male intercounty hurlers that know the game? So by your logic she's a token female being put in for the sake of it?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2025, 04:50:46 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 02:15:50 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2025, 01:30:17 PMNo men got a look in at the camogie game last weekend, but sure there was a lady doing the men's semi hurling final!
The sickener for women's equality was the same age for retirement age lol
If all the women involved know the game, have maybe played and have competent analysis ability, then I have no bother with that. Putting in a token male who may not be as knowledgeable for the sake of it commentating on Camogie. It's all about the best people for the job not balancing gender numbers.
So how many women are male intercounty hurlers that know the game? So by your logic she's a token female being put in for the sake of it?
None to the answer to the first bit. Didn't mean to come across that way with your second question. There is no doubt that there are male and female pundits able to talk about the opposite sexes game. And if they are good enough why not - but it should not be based on gender balance.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 04:19:48 PMNot to mention you are implying Aluko isn't competent to talk about ladies soccer.
I can't see a place where i said Aluko was incompetent.
In fairness she explains herself fairly well here....
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 07:55:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2025, 04:50:46 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 02:15:50 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2025, 01:30:17 PMNo men got a look in at the camogie game last weekend, but sure there was a lady doing the men's semi hurling final!
The sickener for women's equality was the same age for retirement age lol
If all the women involved know the game, have maybe played and have competent analysis ability, then I have no bother with that. Putting in a token male who may not be as knowledgeable for the sake of it commentating on Camogie. It's all about the best people for the job not balancing gender numbers.
So how many women are male intercounty hurlers that know the game? So by your logic she's a token female being put in for the sake of it?
None to the answer to the first bit. Didn't mean to come across that way with your second question. There is no doubt that there are male and female pundits able to talk about the opposite sexes game. And if they are good enough why not - but it should not be based on gender balance.
But its not happening, one way street it seems, if we are on about equality rather than playing experiences and insight from that, then I'm confused as why male pundits at camogie games are very very rare but nearly every week in male football and hurling we have a woman who has never played the men's game.
Camogie has a lot of male managers who'd have great insight into the game btw.
I'd have more respect for broadcasters if they just came out and be honest and say we are trying to even up the panels..
It's like the girl that does the rugby, English girl, no experiences really to draw from in the mans international standard of rugby
Commentators can be both in my book btw
TLDR state legislated social engineering
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 08:11:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 04:19:48 PMNot to mention you are implying Aluko isn't competent to talk about ladies soccer.
I can't see a place where i said Aluko was incompetent.
In fairness she explains herself fairly well here....
So if she's not incompetent, then she's hardly a surprising choice as a pundit for the ladies World Cup. But that wouldn't fit the narrative you're pushing and fits with the picture that your more worried about the labels being attached to people than actual racism or abuse of woman's rights.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 09:47:47 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 08:11:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 04:19:48 PMNot to mention you are implying Aluko isn't competent to talk about ladies soccer.
I can't see a place where i said Aluko was incompetent.
In fairness she explains herself fairly well here....
So if she's not incompetent, then she's hardly a surprising choice as a pundit for the ladies World Cup. But that wouldn't fit the narrative you're pushing and fits with the picture that your more worried about the labels being attached to people than actual racism or abuse of woman's rights.
The issue is she publicly singled out Ian Wright as a Pundit for taking too many female game gigs.
This looks to have influenced ITV's decision making in Hiring for the Euro's (Not the World Cup ;D ).
You clearly have little knowledge on this story and are running with the herd mentality.
This is not a Racial issue as Wrighty is a Black man. It is a Man's Rights issue.
Finally, I doubt you looked at the Video I posted. It answers many of the issues - if you chose to see them.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 10:26:05 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 09:47:47 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 08:11:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 04:19:48 PMNot to mention you are implying Aluko isn't competent to talk about ladies soccer.
I can't see a place where i said Aluko was incompetent.
In fairness she explains herself fairly well here....
So if she's not incompetent, then she's hardly a surprising choice as a pundit for the ladies World Cup. But that wouldn't fit the narrative you're pushing and fits with the picture that your more worried about the labels being attached to people than actual racism or abuse of woman's rights.
The issue is she publicly singled out Ian Wright as a Pundit for taking too many female game gigs.
This looks to have influenced ITV's decision making in Hiring for the Euro's (Not the World Cup ;D ).
You clearly have little knowledge on this story and are running with the herd mentality.
This is not a Racial issue as Wrighty is a Black man. It is a Man's Rights issue.
Finally, I doubt you looked at the Video I posted. It answers many of the issues - if you chose to see them.
You weighted in on a post discussing racism to talk about the increased labelling of people as if that's a bigger issue than the actual racism itself. That to me shows where your priorities lie. That you're concerned about people getting called out on things than actual incidents of discrimination. I never mentioned that it was a racist issue. You brought up your concern about people being increasingly labelled racist and against woman's rights and then went on to use an example that so far is just your opinion with nothing to back it up. I hate to break it to ya but your opinion doesn't count as knowledge. Thats the positive side of the internet, bullish!te can be called out.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 10:46:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 10:26:05 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 09:47:47 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 08:11:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 04:19:48 PMNot to mention you are implying Aluko isn't competent to talk about ladies soccer.
I can't see a place where i said Aluko was incompetent.
In fairness she explains herself fairly well here....
So if she's not incompetent, then she's hardly a surprising choice as a pundit for the ladies World Cup. But that wouldn't fit the narrative you're pushing and fits with the picture that your more worried about the labels being attached to people than actual racism or abuse of woman's rights.
The issue is she publicly singled out Ian Wright as a Pundit for taking too many female game gigs.
This looks to have influenced ITV's decision making in Hiring for the Euro's (Not the World Cup ;D ).
You clearly have little knowledge on this story and are running with the herd mentality.
This is not a Racial issue as Wrighty is a Black man. It is a Man's Rights issue.
Finally, I doubt you looked at the Video I posted. It answers many of the issues - if you chose to see them.
You weighted in on a post discussing racism to talk about the increased labelling of people as if that's a bigger issue than the actual racism itself. That to me shows where your priorities lie. That you're concerned about people getting called out on things than actual incidents of discrimination. I never mentioned that it was a racist issue. You brought up your concern about people being increasingly labelled racist and against woman's rights and then went on to use an example that so far is just your opinion with nothing to back it up. I hate to break it to ya but your opinion doesn't count as knowledge. Thats the positive side of the internet, bullish!te can be called out.
The issue is she publicly singled out Ian Wright as a Pundit for taking too many female game gigs.
This looks to have influenced ITV's decision making in Hiring for the Euro's (Not the World Cup ;D ).
You clearly have little knowledge on this story and are running with the herd mentality.
This is not a Racial issue as Wrighty is a Black man. It is a Man's Rights issue.
Finally, I doubt you looked at the Video I posted. It answers many of the issues - if you chose to see them.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 11, 2025, 12:47:55 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 10:46:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 10:26:05 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 09:47:47 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2025, 08:11:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2025, 04:19:48 PMNot to mention you are implying Aluko isn't competent to talk about ladies soccer.
I can't see a place where i said Aluko was incompetent.
In fairness she explains herself fairly well here....
So if she's not incompetent, then she's hardly a surprising choice as a pundit for the ladies World Cup. But that wouldn't fit the narrative you're pushing and fits with the picture that your more worried about the labels being attached to people than actual racism or abuse of woman's rights.
The issue is she publicly singled out Ian Wright as a Pundit for taking too many female game gigs.
This looks to have influenced ITV's decision making in Hiring for the Euro's (Not the World Cup ;D ).
You clearly have little knowledge on this story and are running with the herd mentality.
This is not a Racial issue as Wrighty is a Black man. It is a Man's Rights issue.
Finally, I doubt you looked at the Video I posted. It answers many of the issues - if you chose to see them.
You weighted in on a post discussing racism to talk about the increased labelling of people as if that's a bigger issue than the actual racism itself. That to me shows where your priorities lie. That you're concerned about people getting called out on things than actual incidents of discrimination. I never mentioned that it was a racist issue. You brought up your concern about people being increasingly labelled racist and against woman's rights and then went on to use an example that so far is just your opinion with nothing to back it up. I hate to break it to ya but your opinion doesn't count as knowledge. Thats the positive side of the internet, bullish!te can be called out.
The issue is she publicly singled out Ian Wright as a Pundit for taking too many female game gigs.
This looks to have influenced ITV's decision making in Hiring for the Euro's (Not the World Cup ;D ).
You clearly have little knowledge on this story and are running with the herd mentality.
This is not a Racial issue as Wrighty is a Black man. It is a Man's Rights issue.
Finally, I doubt you looked at the Video I posted. It answers many of the issues - if you chose to see them.
FFS, 🤦 as I said before, show me this special knowledge that you seem to think you have, showing that Aluko's comments impacted anything with ITV?
Should be easy for us as you seem to be very in the know. 😂
That's despite the fact ITV backed Wright and that Wright confirmed his none appearance had nothing to do with the row.
I saw that video before, what is it you think I should be taking from it?
Completely normal (I thought) work colleague posting photos of the weens infront of Moygashel bonfire last night.
They live among us.
The Orangemen will get some baking tomoro in that heatwave. Some of the aul boys be under pressure on the wall to the field 🌝
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 09, 2025, 10:14:32 PMPolice won't intervene when a bonfire is beside a substation that powers a hospital.
Its just unreal how normalised this stuff is, as much as people pretend otherwise its a different country.
As much use as a knitted condom. Scared of the UVF scum.
Shinners looking absolutely toothless. Sign up to policing LOL
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 11, 2025, 06:13:07 PMShinners looking absolutely toothless. Sign up to policing LOL
Aye there's no justifying SF support of policing now. Moygashel bonfire also had KAT well known as Kill All Taigs (Catholics). Terror police were investigating Kneecap and Bob Vylan for similar... be nothing bout the bonfire.
Is very much the RUC again...
U boy from kneecap was arresting for waving a hamas flag,sure any clown running round s with a uvf flag and not beem arrested be grounds for him getting off?
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 11, 2025, 11:05:28 AMCompletely normal (I thought) work colleague posting photos of the weens infront of Moygashel bonfire last night.
They live among us.
But come the bonfire/marching season, these seemingly normal people turn like the wolfman at the sight of a full moon. And all rational thought goes out the window.
Give me the PSIN over the RUC every day of the week
Some here must have very short memories on how the RUC B Specials and UDR plus the Army acted during the troubles
It's not perfect but I'm happier to be living now in comparison to the crowd before
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2025, 08:16:35 PMGive me the PSIN over the RUC every day of the week
Some here must have very short memories on how the RUC B Specials and UDR plus the Army acted during the troubles
It's not perfect but I'm happier to be living now in comparison to the crowd before
You do know the Police Ombudsman's office has cited instances where the PSNI withheld information, including material relevant to investigations into loyalist killings.
In some cases, information that police previously stated did not exist was later found, particularly during civil proceedings related to these killings...
They arrested two journalists who exposed the murderers involved in Loughinisland rather than go after the killers.
A do-righty attitude isn't sufficient. ..at least they're not killing us now, they're just blocking the truth getting out.
Many more examples, no attempt to stop those bonfires, arresting a pensioner for putting an anti-Israeli sticker on a banklink. Has gone back to that sectarian police force as the recruitment numbers show.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 11, 2025, 09:57:53 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2025, 08:16:35 PMGive me the PSIN over the RUC every day of the week
Some here must have very short memories on how the RUC B Specials and UDR plus the Army acted during the troubles
It's not perfect but I'm happier to be living now in comparison to the crowd before
You do know the Police Ombudsman's office has cited instances where the PSNI withheld information, including material relevant to investigations into loyalist killings.
In some cases, information that police previously stated did not exist was later found, particularly during civil proceedings related to these killings...
They arrested two journalists who exposed the murderers involved in Loughinisland rather than go after the killers.
A do-righty attitude isn't sufficient. ..at least they're not killing us now, they're just blocking the truth getting out.
Many more examples, no attempt to stop those bonfires, arresting a pensioner for putting an anti-Israeli sticker on a banklink. Has gone back to that sectarian police force as the recruitment numbers show.
Where would you like me to start? From randomly firing into divis tower killing kids to opening up indiscriminately at Ballymurphy killing innocent people to collusion on an industrial level resulting in innocent deaths and shoot to kill policy?
Like I said it's not perfect but a hell of a lot better.
What age would you be?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2025, 12:09:44 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 11, 2025, 09:57:53 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2025, 08:16:35 PMGive me the PSIN over the RUC every day of the week
Some here must have very short memories on how the RUC B Specials and UDR plus the Army acted during the troubles
It's not perfect but I'm happier to be living now in comparison to the crowd before
You do know the Police Ombudsman's office has cited instances where the PSNI withheld information, including material relevant to investigations into loyalist killings.
In some cases, information that police previously stated did not exist was later found, particularly during civil proceedings related to these killings...
They arrested two journalists who exposed the murderers involved in Loughinisland rather than go after the killers.
A do-righty attitude isn't sufficient. ..at least they're not killing us now, they're just blocking the truth getting out.
Many more examples, no attempt to stop those bonfires, arresting a pensioner for putting an anti-Israeli sticker on a banklink. Has gone back to that sectarian police force as the recruitment numbers show.
Where would you like me to start? From randomly firing into divis tower killing kids to opening up indiscriminately at Ballymurphy killing innocent people to collusion on an industrial level resulting in innocent deaths and shoot to kill policy?
Like I said it's not perfect but a hell of a lot better.
What age would you be?
A lot better is nowhere near good enough. We need a fair impartial police force that is not going to cover up and continue to block investigation into murders of people who would still be alive.
'Not perfect' is putting it mildly.
I remember the worst of the RUC and we won't be settling for a 'do rightly' police force. Abscence of violence is not justice. Ask some of the families who are being denied the truth by the PSNI about the murders of their loved ones how they feel about an at least it's a better police force.
Policing here is not impartial and we are entitled to that.
From where would you recruit impartial police?
Quote from: Rossfan on July 12, 2025, 11:03:58 AMFrom where would you recruit impartial police?
The old RUC guard remained at the top of the PSNI with the same sectarian mindset and directions. Example the arrest of two journalists who exposed the Loughinisland loyalist murderers.
Impartial policing from the top would have created an impartial recruitment and mentality. No point a decent person joining a police force being ordered to behave impartially. Is now back to 17% recruitment from the nationalist community... I wonder why 🤷�♂️
Nothing to do with murder of Ronan Kerr, general lazy antipathy "ah sure it won't or hasn't changed".
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 02:04:57 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 12, 2025, 11:03:58 AMFrom where would you recruit impartial police?
The old RUC guard remained at the top of the PSNI with the same sectarian mindset and directions. Example the arrest of two journalists who exposed the Loughinisland loyalist murderers.
Impartial policing from the top would have created an impartial recruitment and mentality. No point a decent person joining a police force being ordered to behave impartially. Is now back to 17% recruitment from the nationalist community... I wonder why 🤷�♂️
Look if you feel policing is as bad as was during the troubles then your head is stuck in the sand and no different to the knuckle dragging orange order/PUL community.
Simply put, it's not perfect, it won't be, changing a hundreds of years police force was never going to happen in 30 years, will take many generations before it becomes normal like the London Met, I'm joking as the London Met is as bad.
Police forces around the world are not perfect so I'm not sure the level of perfection equality you think is going to happen..
As for recruitment from the nationalist background, not surprising either, what nationalists would want to alienate themselves from their family and friends to become a police officer, must be the worst job out. Threats still directed by dissidents too, so it's a no brainier
Looking at social media and you can still see the hatred between the two sides, it's vile, and a fair amount of them grew up without the troubles.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2025, 02:18:11 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 02:04:57 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 12, 2025, 11:03:58 AMFrom where would you recruit impartial police?
The old RUC guard remained at the top of the PSNI with the same sectarian mindset and directions. Example the arrest of two journalists who exposed the Loughinisland loyalist murderers.
Impartial policing from the top would have created an impartial recruitment and mentality. No point a decent person joining a police force being ordered to behave impartially. Is now back to 17% recruitment from the nationalist community... I wonder why 🤷�♂️
Look if you feel policing is as bad as was during the troubles then your head is stuck in the sand and no different to the knuckle dragging orange order/PUL community.
Simply put, it's not perfect, it won't be, changing a hundreds of years police force was never going to happen in 30 years, will take many generations before it becomes normal like the London Met, I'm joking as the London Met is as bad.
Police forces around the world are not perfect so I'm not sure the level of perfection equality you think is going to happen..
As for recruitment from the nationalist background, not surprising either, what nationalists would want to alienate themselves from their family and friends to become a police officer, must be the worst job out. Threats still directed by dissidents too, so it's a no brainier
Looking at social media and you can still see the hatred between the two sides, it's vile, and a fair amount of them grew up without the troubles.
If that's your level of debate - a do-rightly police force blocking investigation into the loyalist murders of Catholics... you are obviously happy to have your neck under their Unionist boot.
Tell those families ah sure it's better than it was..
Who would want to be in the police.
Ive long thought there should be a lottery akin to jury/national service, pending passing various tests.
As the video circulating of the female police officer getting punched demonstrates, it isnt for everyone.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 02:36:22 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2025, 02:18:11 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 02:04:57 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 12, 2025, 11:03:58 AMFrom where would you recruit impartial police?
The old RUC guard remained at the top of the PSNI with the same sectarian mindset and directions. Example the arrest of two journalists who exposed the Loughinisland loyalist murderers.
Impartial policing from the top would have created an impartial recruitment and mentality. No point a decent person joining a police force being ordered to behave impartially. Is now back to 17% recruitment from the nationalist community... I wonder why 🤷�♂️
Look if you feel policing is as bad as was during the troubles then your head is stuck in the sand and no different to the knuckle dragging orange order/PUL community.
Simply put, it's not perfect, it won't be, changing a hundreds of years police force was never going to happen in 30 years, will take many generations before it becomes normal like the London Met, I'm joking as the London Met is as bad.
Police forces around the world are not perfect so I'm not sure the level of perfection equality you think is going to happen..
As for recruitment from the nationalist background, not surprising either, what nationalists would want to alienate themselves from their family and friends to become a police officer, must be the worst job out. Threats still directed by dissidents too, so it's a no brainier
Looking at social media and you can still see the hatred between the two sides, it's vile, and a fair amount of them grew up without the troubles.
If that's your level of debate - a do-rightly police force blocking investigation into the loyalist murders of Catholics... you are obviously happy to have your neck under their Unionist boot.
Tell those families ah sure it's better than it was..
Alright, humour me, what's your plan, explain how you'll fix it
MR2,
When the PSNI actively do their utmost to withhold information on legacy cases involving Loyalist informants it's hard to say they're really any different to the RUC of old.
If the leadership of the PSNI really wanted to break all ties with the past and the RUC they'd have opened all their records to legal scrutiny but have done everything but.
The British Gov along with the PSNI is proof with the way they're dealing with the Sean Brown murder that deep down we're still second class citizens when it comes to the crunch.
Are they shooting rubber bullets at nationalist kids anymore, probably not, but institutionally they still hold a deep unionist bias.
There was a full page advert in the programme on Saturday for the PSNI in Irish.
Yeah but have the PSNI read out the Proclamation on the steps of the GPO yet? Exactly!
Quote from: johnnycool on July 14, 2025, 03:45:51 PMMR2,
When the PSNI actively do their utmost to withhold information on legacy cases involving Loyalist informants it's hard to say they're really any different to the RUC of old.
If the leadership of the PSNI really wanted to break all ties with the past and the RUC they'd have opened all their records to legal scrutiny but have done everything but.
The British Gov along with the PSNI is proof with the way they're dealing with the Sean Brown murder that deep down we're still second class citizens when it comes to the crunch.
Are they shooting rubber bullets at nationalist kids anymore, probably not, but institutionally they still hold a deep unionist bias.
I'm not saying it's perfect (multiple times I've said this) and legacy issues are and will be unfortunately very difficult to address, I've made my view on how to deal with legacy issues.
For me it's down to the government to address that, with powers that outstrip the police reluctance in providing all the information. Again that's going to be more difficult.
My current view is based on how my life and family life is with regards to living in a time of the old RUC and what I'm currently dealing with.
It's night and day, no raids, no shootings, industrial collusion, blatant bias and so many other things that happen.
The days of getting home 4 hours later after a game up the country involved being stopped and held for few hours are gone.
I listen like most to Sean Brown's wife and daughter on what they are dealing with since that time. Looking for answers and reason why.. I hope they get it, every unsolved murder needs to have closure too.
So give me the current set up to the last set up. But don't expect a institutionalised set up to change quickly.
As I've asked earlier I'd like to hear how it could be fixed but give me an actual thought out plan.
I'd never encourage anyone to join the police while the threat of dissidents or families having threats over their kid joining and so on.. how do you make it impartial?
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 14, 2025, 04:04:42 PMThere was a full page advert in the programme on Saturday for the PSNI in Irish.
You'd think they'd get the message by now that nationalists want nothing to do with the useless shower of bastards. They have proven themselves to be just the RUC in a different uniform.
Quote from: red hander on July 14, 2025, 05:31:09 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on July 14, 2025, 04:04:42 PMThere was a full page advert in the programme on Saturday for the PSNI in Irish.
You'd think they'd get the message by now that nationalists want nothing to do with the useless shower of bastards. They have proven themselves to be just the RUC in a different uniform.
Citation required
Totally sectarian police force. Even in the last week confiscating a Republican memorial billboard before having to leave it back due the legal intervention.. while ignoring bonfires with all sorts of sectarian and racist slogans and effigies...
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-forced-to-return-billboard-memorial-for-republican-a-day-after-it-was-seized-in-house-raid/a516789500.html
Okay so Sinn Fein signed up to a sectarian police force and got voted in. Good to know what "nationalist" voters want
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 05:47:45 PMTotally sectarian police force. Even in the last week confiscating a Republican memorial billboard before having to leave it back due the legal intervention.. while ignoring bonfires with all sorts of sectarian and racist slogans and effigies...
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-forced-to-return-billboard-memorial-for-republican-a-day-after-it-was-seized-in-house-raid/a516789500.html
I've asked you before about your plan to make the police force better, any ideas?
Btw have you read this link?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 06:27:34 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 05:47:45 PMTotally sectarian police force. Even in the last week confiscating a Republican memorial billboard before having to leave it back due the legal intervention.. while ignoring bonfires with all sorts of sectarian and racist slogans and effigies...
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-forced-to-return-billboard-memorial-for-republican-a-day-after-it-was-seized-in-house-raid/a516789500.html
I've asked you before about your plan to make the police force better, any ideas?
Btw have you read this link?
Absolutely read the link.
How do you improve a PSNI unionist mindset?
Give over full information they have to inquests and families regarding loyalist murders.. otherwise it is still collusion and cover-up.
Needsa whole upper echeoleans red-out; the old RUC. Arresting journalists who exposed loyalists involved in Loughinisland atrocity! Ffs!
Use the same force and determination when dealing with loyalists/unionists as with Republicans/nationalists.
You really believe they don't know who put those 'hate' effigies and slogans on bonfires? But are so diligent in arresting a pensioner for putting a sticker on a banklink..
Are you for real that you can't see how partisan the PSNI are?
Guess which side of the house this boy is; no officer suspended..
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3wexg57dq1o.amp
Best solution: a united Ireland police force.
You read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.
Look, you've lost me with defending drug dealers
As for waiting on a United ireland to solve the policing problems that's not going to happen in our lifetime I'm afraid plus you'll still have peelers in the north and for a while 30 plus years they'll be under constant threat
I've said it multiple times they are nowhere near close to the police service that I grew up with on the Falls rd during the troubles, I've also said they ain't perfect
Seized a banner and gave it back! f**k me!
And stop with the whataboutery, going in to stop that bonfire would only have created more trouble, whether or not that is the correct thing to do isn't up for debate.
Rank and file policemen are told what to do from their bosses who in turn are told what to do mainly from their bosses. The government need to be front and centre and hold them to account, and that's why the policing board needs more control, to ensure there is transparency.
But when you have a plan to actually fix the police service let me know.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:37:01 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.
Look, you've lost me with defending drug dealers
As for waiting on a United ireland to solve the policing problems that's not going to happen in our lifetime I'm afraid plus you'll still have peelers in the north and for a while 30 plus years they'll be under constant threat
I've said it multiple times they are nowhere near close to the police service that I grew up with on the Falls rd during the troubles, I've also said they ain't perfect
Seized a banner and gave it back! f**k me!
And stop with the whataboutery, going in to stop that bonfire would only have created more trouble, whether or not that is the correct thing to do isn't up for debate.
Rank and file policemen are told what to do from their bosses who in turn are told what to do mainly from their bosses. The government need to be front and centre and hold them to account, and that's why the policing board needs more control, to ensure there is transparency.
But when you have a plan to actually fix the police service let me know.
Jees! You're some fan of the PSNI. Don't be getting excited, I'm not advocating a return to violence.
We were promised so much with new policing but it is still at its core unionism with a whole anti-nationalist/Republican bias. Why are they covering up for loyalist murderers?
You don't agree so be it..
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:43:16 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:37:01 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.
Look, you've lost me with defending drug dealers
As for waiting on a United ireland to solve the policing problems that's not going to happen in our lifetime I'm afraid plus you'll still have peelers in the north and for a while 30 plus years they'll be under constant threat
I've said it multiple times they are nowhere near close to the police service that I grew up with on the Falls rd during the troubles, I've also said they ain't perfect
Seized a banner and gave it back! f**k me!
And stop with the whataboutery, going in to stop that bonfire would only have created more trouble, whether or not that is the correct thing to do isn't up for debate.
Rank and file policemen are told what to do from their bosses who in turn are told what to do mainly from their bosses. The government need to be front and centre and hold them to account, and that's why the policing board needs more control, to ensure there is transparency.
But when you have a plan to actually fix the police service let me know.
Jees! You're some fan of the PSNI. Don't be getting excited, I'm not advocating a return to violence.
We were promised so much with new policing but it is still at its core unionism with a whole anti-nationalist/Republican bias. Why are they covering up for loyalist murderers?
You don't agree so be it..
Show me in any post I'm a fan, and show me where I said I don't agree with getting answers?
The PSNI should like any police for mark their own homework, be like turkey's voting for Xmas, it needs no hold bars investigating. But that should be for every unsolved murder
Getting it right won't happen for generations, people literally have to die off.. but with social media I can't see an end to the perpetual Themus and usums
So when you've time, to actually give a proper answer without the stupid predictable insults I'll listen
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:54:41 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:43:16 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:37:01 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.
Look, you've lost me with defending drug dealers
As for waiting on a United ireland to solve the policing problems that's not going to happen in our lifetime I'm afraid plus you'll still have peelers in the north and for a while 30 plus years they'll be under constant threat
I've said it multiple times they are nowhere near close to the police service that I grew up with on the Falls rd during the troubles, I've also said they ain't perfect
Seized a banner and gave it back! f**k me!
And stop with the whataboutery, going in to stop that bonfire would only have created more trouble, whether or not that is the correct thing to do isn't up for debate.
Rank and file policemen are told what to do from their bosses who in turn are told what to do mainly from their bosses. The government need to be front and centre and hold them to account, and that's why the policing board needs more control, to ensure there is transparency.
But when you have a plan to actually fix the police service let me know.
Jees! You're some fan of the PSNI. Don't be getting excited, I'm not advocating a return to violence.
We were promised so much with new policing but it is still at its core unionism with a whole anti-nationalist/Republican bias. Why are they covering up for loyalist murderers?
You don't agree so be it..
Show me in any post I'm a fan, and show me where I said I don't agree with getting answers?
The PSNI should like any police for mark their own homework, be like turkey's voting for Xmas, it needs no hold bars investigating. But that should be for every unsolved murder
Getting it right won't happen for generations, people literally have to die off.. but with social media I can't see an end to the perpetual Themus and usums
So when you've time, to actually give a proper answer without the stupid predictable insults I'll listen
As I say, we'll agree to disagree. On the lecture about personal insults, you're well versed on that. Spare me the handwringing.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.
Are all bonfires not illegal?
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 15, 2025, 12:58:58 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.
Are all bonfires not illegal?
I don't know general bonfire legislation. PSNI capitulated to threat of violence regarding the removal of the bonfire next week .. so if you want your way, threaten violence?
I was thinking once a bonfire has an immigrant boat effigy, KAT signs, effigies of politicians on a noose etc is it not then illegal?.. hate crime.
Will be different outrage next month when the Wolf Tones rock up with their final final show
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 15, 2025, 11:03:43 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 15, 2025, 12:58:58 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.
Are all bonfires not illegal?
I don't know general bonfire legislation. PSNI capitulated to threat of violence regarding the removal of the bonfire next week .. so if you want your way, threaten violence?
I was thinking once a bonfire has an immigrant boat effigy, KAT signs, effigies of politicians on a noose etc is it not then illegal?.. hate crime.
But it's like I said earlier , Moygashel had Varadkar, Michelle O'Neill etc on top in previous years. Others have had KAT, Tri colours, Virgin Mary statues etc. Usual PSNI statement "we're treating this as a hate crime". Really? Ok, any word of the outcomes of these "hate crime" investigations? 4, 5, 6 years later... Nothing.
I'm not sure either if all bonfires are technically illegal. But in a time where climate change, pollution, air quality etc are talked about , why are these allowed? Are they illegal , but the useless gombeens in charge just turn a blind eye to it? The Belfast bonfire had asbestos, risk to electricity and two hospitals nearby. Not to mention the fumes that would come from it. Like, fuckin hell... In what country would this ever be tolerated?!
What about the emergency services? I forget the amount of call outs there were, plus some were attacked. Putting emergency personnel under immense pressure is just idiotic. What about people who actually needed the fire service because their property was on fire? Sorry, we can't come out to put your house/shed fire out because all our trucks are at the bonfires?
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 15, 2025, 11:42:00 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 15, 2025, 11:03:43 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 15, 2025, 12:58:58 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.
Are all bonfires not illegal?
I don't know general bonfire legislation. PSNI capitulated to threat of violence regarding the removal of the bonfire next week .. so if you want your way, threaten violence?
I was thinking once a bonfire has an immigrant boat effigy, KAT signs, effigies of politicians on a noose etc is it not then illegal?.. hate crime.
But it's like I said earlier , Moygashel had Varadkar, Michelle O'Neill etc on top in previous years. Others have had KAT, Tri colours, Virgin Mary statues etc. Usual PSNI statement "we're treating this as a hate crime". Really? Ok, any word of the outcomes of these "hate crime" investigations? 4, 5, 6 years later... Nothing.
I'm not sure either if all bonfires are technically illegal. But in a time where climate change, pollution, air quality etc are talked about , why are these allowed? Are they illegal , but the useless gombeens in charge just turn a blind eye to it? The Belfast bonfire had asbestos, risk to electricity and two hospitals nearby. Not to mention the fumes that would come from it. Like, fuckin hell... In what country would this ever be tolerated?!
What about the emergency services? I forget the amount of call outs there were, plus some were attacked. Putting emergency personnel under immense pressure is just idiotic. What about people who actually needed the fire service because their property was on fire? Sorry, we can't come out to put your house/shed fire out because all our trucks are at the bonfires?
Exactly that. Is never an arrest or a word about it after. Is just to sound like it's being addressed. Few days later,... that's the 12th hatred over for another year.. move along...
Some "Irish nationalists" not happy with some others.
https://m.sundayworld.com/news/northern-ireland-news/anti-immigration-movement-split-over-ex-uvf-mans-speech-at-dublins-gpo/a1912367855.html
Quote from: JoG2 on June 12, 2025, 03:40:40 PMBallymena, Coleraine, Larne, Portadown... Any idea what sh1thole will be next? A whole new lease of life for the planter stock, thought they'd stood on their last neck
I'm not sure where to put this American view from the New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000010290827/how-anti-immigrant-riots-in-northern-ireland-started.html
I see the twitter patriots are now moaning about the stewards in Croke Park yesterday.
No danger of them cnts doing work!!
Their favourite soccer teams mustn't have been on TV yesterday.
Quote from: ShutterinbyDayGAAbyNight on July 21, 2025, 09:56:02 AMI see the twitter patriots are now moaning about the stewards in Croke Park yesterday.
Were they not white enough?
This is where the Far Right diatribe is taking people. Shower of scumbags whipping up hatred. Shocking attack on an innocent man in Tallaght.
https://www.thejournal.ie/tallaght-attack-indian-man-6768795-Jul2025/
"Garda sources said they're satisfied the man was not behaving inappropriately and was wrongly targeted."
Is there a "rightly targeted"?
Driving in me Taxi tonight i see migrants sitting outside the holiday inn building drinking laughing and joking getting everything for free.
I then see Irish families sitting outside hostels in gardiner street with the kids dreaming of a home they deserve.
I then see my own people sitting at tents why has the country failed them.
I hate the entire dàil i wish the worst on all the politician's inside it you have destroyed my country.
Ireland is Full get them out.
Mass Deportations.
Pepper! The guy is non stop on fb I'm surprised he's enough time to taxi
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2025, 03:21:36 PMDriving in me Taxi tonight i see migrants sitting outside the holiday inn building drinking laughing and joking getting everything for free.
I then see Irish families sitting outside hostels in gardiner street with the kids dreaming of a home they deserve.
I then see my own people sitting at tents why has the country failed them.
I hate the entire dàil i wish the worst on all the politician's inside it you have destroyed my country.
Ireland is Full get them out.
Mass Deportations.
Pepper! The guy is non stop on fb I'm surprised he's enough time to taxi
Gavin Pepper? as well as being a piece of racist sh*t he's also a pervert with a camera.
Irish Times - archive link (https://archive.ph/sUM8X#selection-1343.0-1343.94)
'
Far-right councillor filmed man's son as he played outside home, causing child to become upset
The High Court injunctions against Independent Dublin city councillor Gavin Pepper (who has no connection to Pepper Finance) also restrain such activity against members of Ian Wigglesworth's family. The managing director has five children, including one with Down syndrome, who was visibly upset after being recently filmed playing outside his home.'
The Limerick filth excelling themselves....
From The Examiner.....
Lies spread on social media led to physical attack on Afghan man in Limerick
'He was treated with suspicion, fear, and hostility simply because of how he looked,' said migrant support group, Doras
After the original post was circulated, a group confronted the Afghan man and called the Gardaí while filming, but the man walked to the station himself for his own safety.
An Afghan man was assaulted in Limerick after baseless claims were spread about him on social media.
The 64-year-old man received injuries, including a broken nose, in the attack in early July, following claims online that he had been behaving inappropriately towards children, a claim which was later debunked by gardaí.
Analysis of the online discussions around the incident, conducted jointly by the Hope and Courage Collective and Doras, shows how social media, racial profiling and coordinated vigilante activity led to the attack.
The man, who is seeking international protection in Ireland, was harassed, filmed, and publicly identified before the assault following a fabricated Facebook post which accused him of inappropriate behaviour towards children.
Within hours, the claim was pushed across TikTok, Instagram and X with one video reaching over 249,000 views. On July 1, he was surrounded and assaulted in public, sustaining a broken nose and later relocated for his own safety.
Self-proclaimed "community watch" groups filmed the man, circulated his image and framed the assault as a "citizen's arrest". The report's authors say that "despite multiple reports, violent content remained online".
"This was not a one-off incident. It is the result of a disinformation network that uses fear and racism to justify violence," said Edel McGinley, Director of Hope and Courage Collective, which monitors far right activity.
What we're seeing is the rise of co-ordinated vigilantism in Ireland, hiding behind the language of community safety.
In the days prior to the attack, the victim was harassed in a local park, and filmed, with footage posted to social media.
A false allegation began on the afternoon of Sunday, June 29, when a woman uploaded a photo of the man alongside a fabricated story. This led to a member of the self-styled "community watch" group Sinne Na Daoine calling on the "men of Limerick" to "protect its own".
By the following day, a prominent Irish far right account on X claimed in a post that a "Muslim was cat calling children in People's Park" and said the slow Garda response was "pushing society into vigilantism". The post was viewed 190,400 times before being deleted.
After the original post was circulated, a group confronted the Afghan man and called the Gardaí while filming, but the man walked to the station himself for his own safety. Later, a video showing him leaving the station was misrepresented as a "citizen's arrest".
"This man was seeking safety in Ireland and instead found himself at the centre of an online disinformation campaign that turned violent," said John Lannon, chief executive of the migrant support group, Doras.
He was treated with suspicion, fear, and hostility simply because of how he looked.
The report found that the victim was later re-identified and harassed again in a different city.
The authors of the report said that "what is evident in this case is that the Irish far right uses neutral incidents to frame a false and dangerous narrative that is used to justify profiling, harassment and violent assault".
Ms McGinley said that disinformation is amplified online and called on European Commissioner Michael McGrath to intervene.
"As a matter of urgency we need to tackle the toxic recommender system that pushes hate and disinformation into people's social media feeds. People should be able to have control of what they see, not companies, driven by profit."
Did Limerick not used to be called stab city?
There were not many migrants about then.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/almost-half-ni-race-rioters-reported-for-domestic-abuse/a1154568637.html (https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/almost-half-ni-race-rioters-reported-for-domestic-abuse/a1154568637.html)
Almost half of those arrested for the riots against violence on women have been reported for domestic abuse.
It begs the question. When they said "we have enough women abusers without bringing anymore in"... did they mean themselves?
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 08, 2025, 03:17:10 PMhttps://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/almost-half-ni-race-rioters-reported-for-domestic-abuse/a1154568637.html (https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/almost-half-ni-race-rioters-reported-for-domestic-abuse/a1154568637.html)
Almost half of those arrested for the riots against violence on women have been reported for domestic abuse.
It begs the question. When they said "we have enough women abusers without bringing anymore in"... did they mean themselves?
They wanted to keep all the women to abuse themselves, didn't want to share
This will give McGregor's fans fuel - https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/man-20s-arrested-over-attempted-arson-at-conor-mcgregors-black-forge-pub/a657599054.html
One of the journos is hinting the lads was arrested in custody, and others on X saying it was the same lad who stabbed the guard...
What Cities in Europe are becoming like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_kKHvbZ4lE&pp=ygURZnJhbmtmdXJ0IGdlcm1hbnk%3D
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 11, 2025, 11:15:40 PMWhat Cities in Europe are becoming like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_kKHvbZ4lE&pp=ygURZnJhbmtmdXJ0IGdlcm1hbnk%3D
What should we do? Become content creators, travel the world and make serious cash. I'm thinking Danny Dyer in Glasgow on Old Firm day
Another piece of sh1te....
Why is he on bail?
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41685798.html
Quote from: Rossfan on August 12, 2025, 11:17:35 AMAnother piece of sh1te....
Why is he on bail?
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41685798.html
Utter shite, him and all those ignorant far right idiots who are heroically standing by with bats and cable ties ready to jump in with vigilante fervor.
It's hard to credit just how lenient the charge is against him considering the danger of the threat and impact that was inflicted on the victims. The jeopardy looks as serious as if he has neglected to pay a parking fine and now expresses regret in court.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/indian-woman-brutally-beaten-and-called-foreign-b-while-celebrating-all-ireland/a260825976.html
Does anybody read the Sunday World anymore?
And now we have foreign racists joining in....
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/uk-rappers-song-slammed-for-blaming-gardai-and-migrants-for-trouble-and-violence/a1546986310.html
This bucko Niall McConnell is a grade A gobshite
https://share.google/bN4wQblYCPh7ktfZf
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 19, 2025, 06:03:21 PMThis bucko Niall McConnell is a grade A gobshite
https://share.google/bN4wQblYCPh7ktfZf
Was put in his box multiple times! But still wanted to get embarrassed even more!
Anyone and I mean anyone that listens to that crap is truly gone..
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2025, 06:16:56 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on August 19, 2025, 06:03:21 PMThis bucko Niall McConnell is a grade A gobshite
https://share.google/bN4wQblYCPh7ktfZf
Was put in his box multiple times! But still wanted to get embarrassed even more!
Anyone and I mean anyone that listens to that crap is truly gone..
And fair play to that intelligent lad.
"Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn't make him a horse" ???
That McConnell is a real nastynazi cnt alright.
Who funds his ilk?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 19, 2025, 07:03:08 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2025, 06:16:56 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on August 19, 2025, 06:03:21 PMThis bucko Niall McConnell is a grade A gobshite
https://share.google/bN4wQblYCPh7ktfZf
Was put in his box multiple times! But still wanted to get embarrassed even more!
Anyone and I mean anyone that listens to that crap is truly gone..
And fair play to that intelligent lad.
"Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn't make him a horse" ???
Yeah that quote is f**king dumb, but he's got low IQ followers
He was going on about things happening in England he said, hundreds of thousands of children being groomed, yes, one is too many but between the 80's and 2000's is was estimated at 1400..
When giving figures of Irish sex offenders over foreign nationals and he said he was gaslighting lol!
Quote from: Rossfan on August 19, 2025, 07:16:00 PMThat McConnell is a real nastynazi cnt alright.
Who funds his ilk?
He is a national embarrassment. All of these folk have zero self awareness and are shameless. They don't understand that the vast majority of people weighing in behind have zero other interests apart from being online racists. Most don't work so they're spewing their hatred of 18 hrs a day... What a way to spend your 1 run at this life. Truly is mind blowing
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 19, 2025, 07:03:08 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2025, 06:16:56 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on August 19, 2025, 06:03:21 PMThis bucko Niall McConnell is a grade A gobshite
https://share.google/bN4wQblYCPh7ktfZf
Was put in his box multiple times! But still wanted to get embarrassed even more!
Anyone and I mean anyone that listens to that crap is truly gone..
And fair play to that intelligent lad.
"Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn't make him a horse" ???
Thats some line! Something out of a comedy sketch. Fair play to him.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2025, 01:11:06 PMDoes anybody read the Sunday World anymore?
My elderly relatives read it. Most of it is dedicated to stories about mobsters and crime gangs.
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 19, 2025, 11:33:24 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2025, 01:11:06 PMDoes anybody read the Sunday World anymore?
My elderly relatives read it. Most of it is dedicated to stories about mobsters and crime gangs.
My father used to buy it, I hate the sight of it.
Apologies to some of the above for the source but the "citizen journalist " in Court again.
More free legal aid of course. Citizen Journalism must not pay very well...
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/anti-immigration-activist-charged-with-affray-after-incident-during-election-campaign/a883299479.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mlgmz4dp3o
Mr. Clarke is some boy to be raising issues when it comes to planning;
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/dup-councillor-suspended-for-three-months-over-planning-application-conflict-of-interest/a1327828964.html
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2019/09/09/news/dup-s-trevor-clarke-faces-planning-probe-for-triple-garage-built-without-approval-1706767/
Quote from: LC on August 20, 2025, 06:10:20 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mlgmz4dp3o
Mr. Clarke is some boy to be raising issues when it comes to planning;
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/dup-councillor-suspended-for-three-months-over-planning-application-conflict-of-interest/a1327828964.html
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2019/09/09/news/dup-s-trevor-clarke-faces-planning-probe-for-triple-garage-built-without-approval-1706767/
True, Clarke, of all people should sit that one out.
Other than being a money grab for Hotels and Big time Landlords what is the purpose of IPAS accommodation.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 20, 2025, 10:11:17 PMOther than being a money grab for Hotels and Big time Landlords what is the purpose of IPAS accommodation.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 20, 2025, 10:21:25 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 20, 2025, 10:11:17 PMOther than being a money grab for Hotels and Big time Landlords what is the purpose of IPAS accommodation.
Fair dues to Banty McEnaney, he's such a good natured human being giving accommodation to the needy.
I think he should be nominated for president - Or a least the freedom of Carrickmccross.
An entrepreneur filling a gap in the market.
Now if only Building Companies would follow suit.....
81,000 houses built in 2005.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2025, 11:45:01 PMAn entrepreneur filling a gap in the market.
Now if only Building Companies would follow suit.....
81,000 houses built in 2005.
An Entrepreneur, is that what they call his like now a days?
It's gas the '
Look the other way' you have with certain issues.
Put hey, Keep picking silly petty crime articles from the Sunday World. ::)
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2025, 09:26:27 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 20, 2025, 10:21:25 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 20, 2025, 10:11:17 PMOther than being a money grab for Hotels and Big time Landlords what is the purpose of IPAS accommodation.
Fair dues to Banty McEnaney, he's such a good natured human being giving accommodation to the needy.
I think he should be nominated for president - Or a least the freedom of Carrickmccross.
He's a money man, no doubt about that. If we forget about a few cashing in, where do these people go then to get a roof over their heads? What's the alternative re accommodation?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:12:28 AMQuote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2025, 11:45:01 PMAn entrepreneur filling a gap in the market.
Now if only Building Companies would follow suit.....
81,000 houses built in 2005.
An Entrepreneur, is that what they call his like now a days?
It's gas the 'Look the other way' you have with certain issues.
Put hey, Keep picking silly petty crime articles from the Sunday World. ::)
Your government created this and they are voted them in, again and again and again.
Keep doing the same thing and you'll continue to get the same results. Definition of stupidity
Bunker's mask slips occasionally😉.
Hungary paid a fine equivalent to two Bantys. Plus one million euro a day until they do what Ireland is doing.
The Irish government has to comply with EU policy or face the same. Wonder what an EU wide referendum would result in.
International Law too.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2025, 08:43:13 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:12:28 AMQuote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2025, 11:45:01 PMAn entrepreneur filling a gap in the market.
Now if only Building Companies would follow suit.....
81,000 houses built in 2005.
An Entrepreneur, is that what they call his like now a days?
It's gas the 'Look the other way' you have with certain issues.
Put hey, Keep picking silly petty crime articles from the Sunday World. ::)
Your government created this and they are voted them in, again and again and again.
Keep doing the same thing and you'll continue to get the same results. Definition of stupidity
Our Government in the south lost its power a long time ago.
It now hides behind free book schemes, Electricity supplements and the like.
Quote from: DaleCooper on August 22, 2025, 12:36:24 PMHungary paid a fine equivalent to two Bantys. Plus one million euro a day until they do what Ireland is doing.
The Irish government has to comply with EU policy or face the same. Wonder what an EU wide referendum would result in.
How does it work for Poland? How do they deal with the same issue.
Quote from: DaleCooper on August 22, 2025, 12:36:24 PMHungary paid a fine equivalent to two Bantys. Plus one million euro a day until they do what Ireland is doing.
The Irish government has to comply with EU policy or face the same. Wonder what an EU wide referendum would result in.
The EU shouldn't have that power.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 22, 2025, 02:37:57 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on August 22, 2025, 12:36:24 PMHungary paid a fine equivalent to two Bantys. Plus one million euro a day until they do what Ireland is doing.
The Irish government has to comply with EU policy or face the same. Wonder what an EU wide referendum would result in.
The EU shouldn't have that power.
They don't if you leave.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 22, 2025, 03:11:31 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 22, 2025, 02:37:57 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on August 22, 2025, 12:36:24 PMHungary paid a fine equivalent to two Bantys. Plus one million euro a day until they do what Ireland is doing.
The Irish government has to comply with EU policy or face the same. Wonder what an EU wide referendum would result in.
The EU shouldn't have that power.
They don't if you leave.
Well the Brits are showing how well that goes... surely theres a middle ground?
Not sure it works like that. Can't cherry pick what you want and ignore what you don't. You weight up the cost and benefits.
People need to realise westphalian states with their own sovereignty no longer exist.
The Mise Eire festival went ahead on the Weekend in Castlebar. From videos online the crowd there looked middle-aged, scattered and there was a lot of security.
Was hoping for an analysis of John Walters talk from the article below - But this was missed.
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/generic/1877560/inside-mayos-mise-eire-festival-conspiracy-music-and-an-uncomfortable-atmosphere.html (https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/generic/1877560/inside-mayos-mise-eire-festival-conspiracy-music-and-an-uncomfortable-atmosphere.html)
https://www.ireland-live.ie/news/generic/1876422/locals-respond-to-controversial-mise-eire-festival-as-line-up-and-organisers-are-revealed.html (https://www.ireland-live.ie/news/generic/1876422/locals-respond-to-controversial-mise-eire-festival-as-line-up-and-organisers-are-revealed.html)
Meanwhile back in the real World, (but will probably cause burst blood vessels in tge Kerrs and the like)
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2025/0826/1530216-cso-population-figures/
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Is there a figure the Far right want in terms of Non-Irish?
When interpreting the figures, it is important to distinguish between the three concepts of asylum seekers, refugee immigrants and immigrants. Asylum seekers are not part of the official population, and all are not granted asylum. Many also return voluntarily or withdraw their applications for asylum. Immigrants are defined as those who have permanent or temporary residence permit, that have registered a residence with the population register, and who intend to remain for at least one year. Asylum seekers who are granted asylum and stay become refugee immigrants after a few years. In addition to refugee immigrants, there are many other immigrant categories, such as family-based immigrants and immigrant workers. Since it usually may take about a year to be granted asylum, and another year or more to be assigned a residence in a municipality, it usually takes a few years before an increase in the number of asylum seekers is visible in the increase of the number of immigrants.
I see that dipshit is back at the school gate
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2025, 01:08:46 PMIs there a figure the Far right want in terms of Non-Irish?
Statistician have the power - and can will give their clients what ever stats they need to prove a point.
The old saying - Lies, Damn lies and Statistics....
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Quote from: From the Bunker on August 26, 2025, 01:11:08 PMWhen interpreting the figures, it is important to distinguish between the three concepts of asylum seekers, refugee immigrants and immigrants. Asylum seekers are not part of the official population, and all are not granted asylum. Many also return voluntarily or withdraw their applications for asylum. Immigrants are defined as those who have permanent or temporary residence permit, that have registered a residence with the population register, and who intend to remain for at least one year. Asylum seekers who are granted asylum and stay become refugee immigrants after a few years. In addition to refugee immigrants, there are many other immigrant categories, such as family-based immigrants and immigrant workers. Since it usually may take about a year to be granted asylum, and another year or more to be assigned a residence in a municipality, it usually takes a few years before an increase in the number of asylum seekers is visible in the increase of the number of immigrants.
That needs addressed, in that the government need to have a quicker processing of applicants, I'd say its quicker and cheaper to train new staff than it is to house asylum seekers.
The numbers will continue to come, they have been coming for a while now, its not a new thing, they just are very slow to processing and dealing with appeals.
Immigration done right will boost the economy, the government needs to do it better. While wars that are supported by the West continue then people will want a better life for themselves, and even if I lived in a 'safe' country I'd still be looking to better myself (35,000 left Ireland last year to do the same thing), and if that meant leaving, well its a no brainer
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2025, 01:21:18 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 26, 2025, 01:11:08 PMWhen interpreting the figures, it is important to distinguish between the three concepts of asylum seekers, refugee immigrants and immigrants. Asylum seekers are not part of the official population, and all are not granted asylum. Many also return voluntarily or withdraw their applications for asylum. Immigrants are defined as those who have permanent or temporary residence permit, that have registered a residence with the population register, and who intend to remain for at least one year. Asylum seekers who are granted asylum and stay become refugee immigrants after a few years. In addition to refugee immigrants, there are many other immigrant categories, such as family-based immigrants and immigrant workers. Since it usually may take about a year to be granted asylum, and another year or more to be assigned a residence in a municipality, it usually takes a few years before an increase in the number of asylum seekers is visible in the increase of the number of immigrants.
That needs addressed, in that the government need to have a quicker processing of applicants, I'd say its quicker and cheaper to train new staff than it is to house asylum seekers.
The numbers will continue to come, they have been coming for a while now, its not a new thing, they just are very slow to processing and dealing with appeals.
Immigration done right will boost the economy, the government needs to do it better. While wars that are supported by the West continue then people will want a better life for themselves, and even if I lived in a 'safe' country I'd still be looking to better myself (35,000 left Ireland last year to do the same thing), and if that meant leaving, well its a no brainer
You have it on the money there. But sadly immigration (of the poor) into Ireland has become a money grab. with multiple individuals, groups and organistaions are making a lot of money from the situation at hand. The Government's hands are tied by Europe as to how to control the situation and multiple other factors.
The information age means immigrants will find out about countries that are a soft touch and how to work that system.
Immigrants will always add to the growth of a Country. But uncontrolled can cause havoc and resentment.
Not familiar with the content creator of this video - The unbroken man.
A lot plámasing in the interviews on this video.
Callum @ Briticannica in around 4:52 has some interesting insights.
Stopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".
I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.
Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.
In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.
But either side are being full on and it's basically bollocks to be honest
If either side of the this left and right actually sat down and gave a calmed approach to their argument then possibly some common ground can be found..
But this labelling stereotyping sensationalism of their rights and wrongs is getting wider and wider.
Again the blame (for me) really for that is down to social media, manipulating enough people to create division
All of us here have one go at this and no one is getting out alive, the futures not yours to concern yourself with. The planet will still carry on millions of years after we pass, wars will always be happening too.
Chill out. Enjoy your family and yourself and give a few less fucks for things outta your control
Left and Right labels are used to cause division and muddy the waters. It also stops people giving an opinion. And this suits people in power. Nearly all of us are in the middle - want a nice life and do all the boring stuff.
You are right about most of this being out of our control and in my case - I'm in the last trimester of our lifetime.
But this does not mean that I totally sit on my hands. I constantly update my kids on political issues and what you are told is not often what happens. They are individuals and will make up their own mind. Yes, live your life - But be aware of what is happening. But, don't be obsessed with it.
When I hear that the Democrats in the US are Left I do wonder what exactly they are left of!
They're and out and out capitalist party, and to me that's not left in it's truest sense, that's left of the far right nut jobs wanting unbridled capitalism to shaft the poorest in society even more.
As the Labour in the UK, they're not left either and the trade unions should cut off all funding right away.
What yanks call "left"(sic) would be very right of centre here or Continental Europe.
Let your kids make up their own minds..
Who listens actually to their parents at that age?
I wish I had have at times but sure I knew everything lol
No one is saying not to be aware of their own personal life but I've tried that with mine and now I just let them get on with things.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".
I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.
Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.
In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.
The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose
Quote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".
I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.
Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.
In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.
The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose
Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.
The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:23:21 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".
I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.
Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.
In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.
The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose
Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.
The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.
Who wasn't elected?
Commissioners nominated by elected Governments and approved by elected MEPs.
Their job - to run their Departments under policies approved by Governments and Council of Ministers.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:24:44 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:23:21 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".
I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.
Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.
In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.
The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose
Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.
The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.
Who wasn't elected?
Ursula Von Der Leyen for one. Civil servants who are not elected but are hugely involved in proposing and implementing EU laws and policies. Commissioners are nominated by national governments and approved by the European Parliament.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:38:13 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:24:44 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:23:21 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".
I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.
Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.
In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.
The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose
Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.
The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.
Who wasn't elected?
Ursula Von Der Leyen for one. Civil servants who are not elected but are hugely involved in proposing and implementing EU laws and policies. Commissioners are nominated by national governments and approved by the European Parliament.
She's elected by MEPs who you voted for. There's nothing to really see here.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:47:21 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:38:13 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:24:44 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:23:21 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".
I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.
Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.
In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.
The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose
Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.
The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.
Who wasn't elected?
Ursula Von Der Leyen for one. Civil servants who are not elected but are hugely involved in proposing and implementing EU laws and policies. Commissioners are nominated by national governments and approved by the European Parliament.
She's elected by MEPs who you voted for. There's nothing to really see here.
Was she originally elected by the people to the EU?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 05:03:11 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:47:21 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:38:13 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:24:44 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:23:21 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".
I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.
Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.
In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.
The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose
Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.
The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.
Who wasn't elected?
Ursula Von Der Leyen for one. Civil servants who are not elected but are hugely involved in proposing and implementing EU laws and policies. Commissioners are nominated by national governments and approved by the European Parliament.
She's elected by MEPs who you voted for. There's nothing to really see here.
Was she originally elected by the people to the EU?
Americas president isn't elected by the people either. Its a representative democracy. I really don't see the issue. You have a vote when you elect an MEP. They represent your interests including the selection of head of the EC.
Ahhhh it's just a good sound bite!
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 05:06:16 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 05:03:11 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:47:21 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:38:13 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:24:44 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:23:21 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!
Does he even know the actual figures?
You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".
I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.
Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.
In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.
The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose
Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.
The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.
Who wasn't elected?
Ursula Von Der Leyen for one. Civil servants who are not elected but are hugely involved in proposing and implementing EU laws and policies. Commissioners are nominated by national governments and approved by the European Parliament.
She's elected by MEPs who you voted for. There's nothing to really see here.
Was she originally elected by the people to the EU?
Americas president isn't elected by the people either. Its a representative democracy. I really don't see the issue. You have a vote when you elect an MEP. They represent your interests including the selection of head of the EC.
Yeah, next you'll be calling that democracy. ::)
Ok.
Far Right Clergy - What next?
Ireland is 'crammed': Priest says non-Christian migrants shouldn't enter country (https://www.westernpeople.ie/ireland-is-crammed-priest-says-non-christian-migrants-shouldnt-enter-country_arid-70042.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawMqp7ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETEyaFV2WmhkY3ZrOXVhbWltAR68w6DG6ym6XJg-9hQapKdAs89bN9xQblanZMaFfGk4Q4u9E9qFhCkgeb-xbg_aem_i3P8Dudk1ymhle1RZuqagQ)
Not much Christianity in that lad.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2025, 07:24:32 PMNot much Christianity in that lad.
And from an area which would have had a mass exodus to America in the 1840s.
And everywhere else almost to the present day.
Fr Kilcoyne has form when it comes to bizarre remarks.
He complained about the dig of the Tuam babies and at time said there was an "outrageous myth" that children at the institution had "met an untimely end through bad action". He described the nuns who ran the home as "outstanding" and said he did not believe there was any "bad action".
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 07, 2025, 07:59:58 PMFr Kilcoyne has form when it comes to bizarre remarks.
He complained about the dig of the Tuam babies and at time said there was an "outrageous myth" that children at the institution had "met an untimely end through bad action". He described the nuns who ran the home as "outstanding" and said he did not believe there was any "bad action".
Sounds an ideal character to provide moral and spiritual guidance.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 07, 2025, 07:42:01 PMQuote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2025, 07:24:32 PMNot much Christianity in that lad.
And from an area which would have had a mass exodus to America in the 1840s.
Oh yeah -
the Famine. Or what we were told in our text books.
Two arrested for perjury in the McGregor case. Assuming it's the neighbours
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/0911/1532950-mcgregor-appeal-perjury-arrest/
Gas to see the Irish Flag comfortably waving with Union Jacks, The Welsh Dragon, Scotland's Cross of St. Andrew and England's Saint George Cross in London's anti-immigration march today. How times change.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on September 13, 2025, 09:43:33 PMGas to see the Irish Flag comfortably waving with Union Jacks, The Welsh Dragon, Scotland's Cross of St. Andrew and England's Saint George Cross in London's anti-immigration march today. How times change.
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Is that the same crowd that are now at the last night of the Proms? (I'm not watching btw, just patiently waiting for MOTD)
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 13, 2025, 09:43:33 PMGas to see the Irish Flag comfortably waving with Union Jacks, The Welsh Dragon, Scotland's Cross of St. Andrew and England's Saint George Cross in London's anti-immigration march today. How times change.
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Try not to get too excited 😆
Quote from: Rossfan on September 14, 2025, 08:46:41 AMTry not to get too excited 😆
I won't. Regrettably civil war is on the way in most European Countries. And if not that war in Europe.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 10:31:59 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 14, 2025, 08:46:41 AMTry not to get too excited 😆
I won't. Regrettably civil war is on the way in most European Countries. And if not that war in Europe.
Jesus! When's this happening so I can overload on toilet paper?! As it normally runs out first in the supermarket during a crisis
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2025, 11:01:13 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 10:31:59 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 14, 2025, 08:46:41 AMTry not to get too excited 😆
I won't. Regrettably civil war is on the way in most European Countries. And if not that war in Europe.
Jesus! When's this happening so I can overload on toilet paper?! As it normally runs out first in the supermarket during a crisis
Don't forget the pasta!
Tbh I think he's right. I sense there is turmoil ahead , on the streets all over Europe
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 14, 2025, 11:24:56 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2025, 11:01:13 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 10:31:59 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 14, 2025, 08:46:41 AMTry not to get too excited 😆
I won't. Regrettably civil war is on the way in most European Countries. And if not that war in Europe.
Jesus! When's this happening so I can overload on toilet paper?! As it normally runs out first in the supermarket during a crisis
Don't forget the pasta!
Tbh I think he's right. I sense there is turmoil ahead , on the streets all over Europe
There's a lot of noise on the internet but there's an awful lot of people busy working too.
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 14, 2025, 11:24:56 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2025, 11:01:13 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 10:31:59 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 14, 2025, 08:46:41 AMTry not to get too excited 😆
I won't. Regrettably civil war is on the way in most European Countries. And if not that war in Europe.
Jesus! When's this happening so I can overload on toilet paper?! As it normally runs out first in the supermarket during a crisis
Don't forget the pasta!
Tbh I think he's right. I sense there is turmoil ahead , on the streets all over Europe
So what's the plan with this civil war across Europe?
Did they break it down yesterday?
Vote one government out bring in another and then what?
Who are they fighting?
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 10:31:59 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 14, 2025, 08:46:41 AMTry not to get too excited 😆
I won't. Regrettably civil war is on the way in most European Countries. And if not that war in Europe.
Civil unrest is long overdue in a lot of countries. Sadly it's being aimed at the wrong targets. People are punching down not up and being played for absolute fools by wankers like Farage and his billionaire backers while the useless politicians watch on.
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 14, 2025, 11:49:06 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 10:31:59 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 14, 2025, 08:46:41 AMTry not to get too excited 😆
I won't. Regrettably civil war is on the way in most European Countries. And if not that war in Europe.
Civil unrest is long overdue in a lot of countries. Sadly it's being aimed at the wrong targets. People are punching down not up and being played for absolute fools by wankers like Farage and his billionaire backers while the useless politicians watch on.
Would agree with that. Redistribution of wealth a massive problem. Big business nearly owns everything and has total control of our politicians and media. On top of that too much wealth is hidden outside the tax system which further squeezes the middle who's paying for everything. We need stronger leaders to correct the pendulum back but who or where they are is the trillion dollar question.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteTry not to get too excited 😆
I won't. Regrettably civil war is on the way in most European Countries. And if not that war in Europe.
Jesus! When's this happening so I can overload on toilet paper?! As it normally runs out first in the supermarket during a crisis
Don't forget the pasta!
Tbh I think he's right. I sense there is turmoil ahead , on the streets all over Europe
So what's the plan with this civil war across Europe?
Did they break it down yesterday?
Vote one government out bring in another and then what?
Who are they fighting?
To have an uncivil one
Dont know. Haven't seen any footage
Bring in another
Daleks
I missed the last meeting , so that info might not be entirely accurate
We have to get a serious hold on things here in Ireland. But we won't. We will have another recession - and when this happens there will be a serious unrest. People will look for people to blame and they won't be looking at the Government, Fat cats IPAS suppliers or Europe. They will look at the trafficked immigrants. They will be used to blame the situation we will be in.
Any complaints from the Majority will be fogged of with the similar line auld Bertie used the last time ''Sure we all Partied''.
The bottom rung in any economic collapse are always blamed and the narrative is always discreetly hinted from above. Although they will always deny this. Not that they are ever really asked in the first place.
I doubt there be serious unrest unless they do another bit of looting. Footage of fascists getting the sh*t kicked out of them by Republicans in Dublin yesterday. The flag waving racists are not that tough when it's put up to them.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 12:35:25 PMWe have to get a serious hold on things here in Ireland. But we won't. We will have another recession - and when this happens there will be a serious unrest. People will look for people to blame and they won't be looking at the Government, Fat cats IPAS suppliers or Europe. They will look at the trafficked immigrants. They will be used to blame the situation we will be in.
Any complaints from the Majority will be fogged of with the similar line auld Bertie used the last time ''Sure we all Partied''.
The bottom rung in any economic collapse are always blamed and the narrative is always discreetly hinted from above. Although they will always deny this. Not that they are ever really asked in the first place.
Sort of linked to the topic at hand, people are spending insane money. It's like it's 2005.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930pyzygqxo (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930pyzygqxo)
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 12:35:25 PMWe have to get a serious hold on things here in Ireland. But we won't. We will have another recession - and when this happens there will be a serious unrest. People will look for people to blame and they won't be looking at the Government, Fat cats IPAS suppliers or Europe. They will look at the trafficked immigrants. They will be used to blame the situation we will be in.
Any complaints from the Majority will be fogged of with the similar line auld Bertie used the last time ''Sure we all Partied''.
The bottom rung in any economic collapse are always blamed and the narrative is always discreetly hinted from above. Although they will always deny this. Not that they are ever really asked in the first place.
When is the recession coming?
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 14, 2025, 12:40:31 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 12:35:25 PMWe have to get a serious hold on things here in Ireland. But we won't. We will have another recession - and when this happens there will be a serious unrest. People will look for people to blame and they won't be looking at the Government, Fat cats IPAS suppliers or Europe. They will look at the trafficked immigrants. They will be used to blame the situation we will be in.
Any complaints from the Majority will be fogged of with the similar line auld Bertie used the last time ''Sure we all Partied''.
The bottom rung in any economic collapse are always blamed and the narrative is always discreetly hinted from above. Although they will always deny this. Not that they are ever really asked in the first place.
Sort of linked to the topic at hand, people are spending insane money. It's like it's 2005.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930pyzygqxo (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930pyzygqxo)
Simple. Don't go.
Quote from: marty34 on September 14, 2025, 12:41:25 PMWhen is the recession coming?
No one at my level knows. But there are murmurings. The price of gold is usually a good indicator.
Gold price hits record high as investors seek safety (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqyq7r8703o)
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 12:48:49 PMQuote from: marty34 on September 14, 2025, 12:41:25 PMWhen is the recession coming?
No one at my level knows. But there are murmurings. The price of gold is usually a good indicator.
Gold price hits record high as investors seek safety (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqyq7r8703o)
Just that I've been hearing about this recession for over 5 yesrs now.
It's all - that car's on credit and 3 holidays a year etc. etc. but still the same.
Important intervention from Michael Martin on the "Ireland belongs to the Irish" rhetoric used by the hatemongers.
Ireland belongs to all the children of the world, we are one humanity etc etc
Quote from: marty34 on September 14, 2025, 12:51:15 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 12:48:49 PMQuote from: marty34 on September 14, 2025, 12:41:25 PMWhen is the recession coming?
No one at my level knows. But there are murmurings. The price of gold is usually a good indicator.
Gold price hits record high as investors seek safety (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqyq7r8703o)
Just that I've been hearing about this recession for over 5 yesrs now.
It's all - that car's on credit and 3 holidays a year etc. etc. but still the same.
When you look at things through an inflation calculator it's scary. The price of everything continues to rise yet wages aren't rising in line with inflation if there's any economic shock to the economy you could see a lot of households unable to afford their mortgage payments.
People seem to assume American MNCs are too invested or established to pull out. 3 years left of Trump in an increasingly febrile atmosphere.
Anything can and will happen. Ireland is a vassalage of American Empire , enjoying nouveau riche status as the young are being destroyed.
You think Zion Don and those surrounding them arent spoiling to teach Ireland a lesson for the cheap talk on Palestine?
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 14, 2025, 12:40:31 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 12:35:25 PMWe have to get a serious hold on things here in Ireland. But we won't. We will have another recession - and when this happens there will be a serious unrest. People will look for people to blame and they won't be looking at the Government, Fat cats IPAS suppliers or Europe. They will look at the trafficked immigrants. They will be used to blame the situation we will be in.
Any complaints from the Majority will be fogged of with the similar line auld Bertie used the last time ''Sure we all Partied''.
The bottom rung in any economic collapse are always blamed and the narrative is always discreetly hinted from above. Although they will always deny this. Not that they are ever really asked in the first place.
Sort of linked to the topic at hand, people are spending insane money. It's like it's 2005.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930pyzygqxo (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930pyzygqxo)
I read that earlier. Madness
Here's the take away comment from it all......
Lucy went to a friend's wedding in Switzerland
last year which she says cost her about £700. It was in a "really random town", she says, which involved taking a train and a bus, and accommodation options were very limited which meant she had to stay in an expensive hotel, driving up costs. Food was covered, but everyone had to pay for their own drinks.
"It was a lovely day," Lucy says. "But very expensive."
The couple are now getting divorced. "So that was a waste of money," she adds.
I hear "Clann Eireann" and their "Ceannaire" Herr Littler Barret were chased out of a park in Dublin at the weekend.
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 14, 2025, 02:08:49 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on September 14, 2025, 12:40:31 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 14, 2025, 12:35:25 PMWe have to get a serious hold on things here in Ireland. But we won't. We will have another recession - and when this happens there will be a serious unrest. People will look for people to blame and they won't be looking at the Government, Fat cats IPAS suppliers or Europe. They will look at the trafficked immigrants. They will be used to blame the situation we will be in.
Any complaints from the Majority will be fogged of with the similar line auld Bertie used the last time ''Sure we all Partied''.
The bottom rung in any economic collapse are always blamed and the narrative is always discreetly hinted from above. Although they will always deny this. Not that they are ever really asked in the first place.
Sort of linked to the topic at hand, people are spending insane money. It's like it's 2005.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930pyzygqxo (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930pyzygqxo)
I read that earlier. Madness
Here's the take away comment from it all......
Lucy went to a friend's wedding in Switzerland last year which she says cost her about £700. It was in a "really random town", she says, which involved taking a train and a bus, and accommodation options were very limited which meant she had to stay in an expensive hotel, driving up costs. Food was covered, but everyone had to pay for their own drinks.
"It was a lovely day," Lucy says. "But very expensive."
The couple are now getting divorced. "So that was a waste of money," she adds.
Some people seriously have some notions on both sides of this "craze" for want of a better term. Anyone getting married and expecting people to shell out that type of money on a hen or stag do really do have some notions of themselves. And those indulging them by spending that type of money really aren't a pile better.
Sure its a wee trip away to some sunny destination or city break in Ireland or UK
The stag is just an excuse to be fair ;D
Anyone spending money they don't have though is stupid, my daughter does that a lot lol!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2025, 04:04:44 PMSure its a wee trip away to some sunny destination or city break in Ireland or UK
The stag is just an excuse to be fair ;D
Anyone spending money they don't have though is stupid, my daughter does that a lot lol!
My daughter does that a lot too. Just an online shopaholic. Can't stop herself but the biggest issue is not sending stuff back when it doesn't fit, etc.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 15, 2025, 02:59:38 PMI hear "Clann Eireann" and their "Ceannaire" Herr Littler Barret were chased out of a park in Dublin at the weekend.
Is this him?
https://x.com/i/status/1967655421197553703 (https://x.com/i/status/1967655421197553703)
I thought it was a comedy sketch from The Savage Eye...
That's him and his SS bodyguard.
Quote from: johnnycool on September 16, 2025, 08:11:59 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 15, 2025, 02:59:38 PMI hear "Clann Eireann" and their "Ceannaire" Herr Littler Barret were chased out of a park in Dublin at the weekend.
Is this him?
https://x.com/i/status/1967655421197553703 (https://x.com/i/status/1967655421197553703)
I thought it was a comedy sketch from The Savage Eye...
This can't be an actual serious person?
The planet is screwed
Reminds me of the scene in The Life of Brian when they are on their soap boxes at the market place!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9czBBKof7Yo
Jesus Christ.
Surely a clown like that should be arrested?
I was down round speakers corner in London years ago (before the rise of the far right but when they were starting to make a bit of noise) and there was an elderly woman pontificating about Africa and a few fellas(who were black) starting heckling her so she told them to go back to Africa and swing from the trees. Some lovely people about :o
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Barrett
Quote from: Rossfan on September 16, 2025, 10:57:08 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Barrett
there is a great video of him explaining the split in his party, comedy gold.
Ciaran Mullooly MEP Ind Ireland and former RTE employee, retweeted his nazi wife at one stage regarding the power outages after storm Eowyn.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 16, 2025, 10:57:08 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Barrett
Mentally unstable
Justin Barrett is a side show distraction. While people are on here looking up his Wikipedia page, There are far more dangerous people that are ignored, unknown or hiding in plain sight. So he serves as a perfect decoy for the people in power.
Sadly, people with real concerns are lumped into the same category as this poor idiot which helps discredit any argument.
Who are those "far more dangerous people"?
To whom or to what are they dangerous?
Is it time to buy a tin foil hat?
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 16, 2025, 04:03:45 PMJustin Barrett is a side show distraction. While people are on here looking up his Wikipedia page, There are far more dangerous people that are ignored, unknown or hiding in plain sight. So he serves as a perfect decoy for the people in power.
Sadly, people with real concerns are lumped into the same category as this poor idiot which helps discredit any argument.
Does sing from the same hymn sheet though, regardless of his disability there are stupid people who'll listen.
Having an honest conversation about the ills of the country is getting further and further away from happening.
I can't preach it enough, stick your playlist on in the car, watch the Simpsons during the news time come off twitter and reduce the social media.
Get down to the club, get the banter of the friends and reminisce on games gone by! You'll feel better for it
https://www.ft.com/content/37b4d51b-abe3-4667-8ee6-835fd0c01bff
Though Elon Musk has fallen out with the president, he was speaking for both when he addressed the UK Maga right's Unite the Kingdom rally in London last Saturday. "Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you," Musk said. "You either fight back or you die.
American colour revolution in UK quite close to succeeding, if Starmer survives a full term it would shock me
Quote from: seafoid on September 16, 2025, 04:50:50 PMhttps://www.ft.com/content/37b4d51b-abe3-4667-8ee6-835fd0c01bff
Though Elon Musk has fallen out with the president, he was speaking for both when he addressed the UK Maga right's Unite the Kingdom rally in London last Saturday. "Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you," Musk said. "You either fight back or you die.
Billionaire dividing people shocker.....one of the increasing number of sociapathic ball bags pulling the strings
Quote from: DaleCooper on September 16, 2025, 05:58:26 PMAmerican colour revolution in UK quite close to succeeding, if Starmer survives a full term it would shock me
This march and show of strength had been planned for months, it was a pathetic turnout
Kicking off online re Newry becoming a sanctuary city.
Jesus I'd a crackpot in today. So here's what they are getting in the 4 star hotels
Free phones
Doctor on site
Dentist on site
£300 a week per person
Free cigarettes
Free this, Free that and so on
I asked are you working there?
No, I seen it on a video on twitter!
I played along for a bit and said I'm sure if you lived in the likes of Syria you'd make a break for it yourself? Nah, seen a video of these places and the they look lovely!
I believe its to kick off on Thursday night everywhere! 7pm be careful, and if you are protesting be nice
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2025, 03:35:30 PMKicking off online re Newry becoming a sanctuary city.
More Americanism
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2025, 03:35:30 PMKicking off online re Newry becoming a sanctuary city.
What does this actually mean? Is it window dressing or does it actually affect policy?
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2025, 05:49:50 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2025, 03:35:30 PMKicking off online re Newry becoming a sanctuary city.
What does this actually mean? Is it window dressing or does it actually affect policy?
I'm honestly not sure. In fairness to the knuckle draggers they have a point in that theres been little or no public consultation.
I recall my first dalliance with human traffickers and it was the border region s armagh. Some nice houses in that part of the country, you'd wonder how its done :)
The Kosher far right
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/us-cash-turned-tommy-robinson-into-the-poster-boy-of-uk-far-right
Seems at most 200 individuals took part in "operation shutdown" in the 6 Cos Thursday night🤣
Quote from: Rossfan on September 20, 2025, 11:47:13 AMSeems at most 200 individuals took part in "operation shutdown" in tge 6 Cos Thursday night🤣
Tommy would be proud!
meanwhile 'Back in the USSA'
(https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:pefar6seyjfqkfvxy32mbuli/bafkreid6sm7a7q6a3tnizw3uxeukgntysgir6x6b5kucc2yj74jgou6oma@jpeg)
Free speech.........but only if I like what you say!
How are things looking over in the US? How are the floating voters reacting to the recent events? Are they rowing in behind the Charlie Kirk love in or are they dismayed at the attempts to control the media? From outside looking in, and from a slightly left of centre viewpoint, I thought the attempt at censorship was pretty outrageous but with this and Israel, and the economy, what way are people leaning over there?
Tough oul life being a "citizen journalist (sic)"
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/dublin-youtuber-becomes-first-person-jailed-for-posts-exposing-asylum-seekers/a2043105321.html
Quote from: Rossfan on September 25, 2025, 08:42:17 PMTough oul life being a "citizen journalist (sic)"
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/dublin-youtuber-becomes-first-person-jailed-for-posts-exposing-asylum-seekers/a2043105321.html
Community Employment Scheme worker with nearly 50 convictions. A real asset I'm sure.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 25, 2025, 08:42:17 PMTough oul life being a "citizen journalist (sic)"
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/dublin-youtuber-becomes-first-person-jailed-for-posts-exposing-asylum-seekers/a2043105321.html
Speaking of exposing asylum seekers
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/man-who-taunted-staff-by-exposing-himself-outside-belfast-hotel-jailed-6CTGQMQMENE5ZABKHX5BVMA5WU/
September 25 2025
A man who "taunted" staff at a south Belfast hotel by repeatedly waving his genitals at them has been jailed for two months.
Teklemariam Lijam, a 41-year-old Eritrean national, exposed himself in front of passers-by outside the premises on Botanic Avenue.
The asylum seeker, of no fixed address, was arrested after police were called to House Belfast on September 12 this year.
Belfast Magistrates Court heard he had been walking up and down outside the boutique hotel, taunting door staff by flashing at them up to 10 times.
With Lijam carrying out the activity in full public view of others, PSNI officers were called to the scene.
Gosia Hackiewicz, prosecuting, said: "When police stopped they also observed this man lowering his waistband to expose his penis."
The defendant was arrested and while being taken into custody he spat in the back of the PSNI car.
Lijam pleaded guilty to charges of exposure and criminal damage.
Defence barrister Sean O'Hare told the court his client claims to have been assaulted during a previous incident in the same area.
"He had some drink taken, he went round to House Bar and the behaviour occurred as described," he said.
"If he had not been drunk the situation wouldn't have happened."
It was disclosed that Lijam arrived in Northern Ireland last year and has made an application for asylum.
"He has a completely clear record," Mr O'Hare added.
Sentencing Lijam to two months imprisonment, District Judge Austin Kennedy confirmed he will also be subject to the sex offender notification requirements.
Mr Kennedy said: "I'll give credit for the early plea, but it is quite a serious offence."
RTE has a bit on the News that there was a Recession looming. They even had a news reel from 2008. But there is nothing on their website. And so we are being gradually being drip fed the inevitable. Frogs in water in a gradually heating saucepan.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2025, 09:21:22 PMRTE has a bit on the News that there was a Recession looming. They even had a news reel from 2008. But there is nothing on their website. And so we are being gradually being drip fed the inevitable. Frogs in water in a gradually heating saucepan.
The world will keep turning, stock up on the bog roll now
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2025, 09:35:38 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2025, 09:21:22 PMRTE has a bit on the News that there was a Recession looming. They even had a news reel from 2008. But there is nothing on their website. And so we are being gradually being drip fed the inevitable. Frogs in water in a gradually heating saucepan.
The world will keep turning, stock up on the bog roll now
Wiping our ass will be the least of our worries......
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2025, 09:36:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2025, 09:35:38 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2025, 09:21:22 PMRTE has a bit on the News that there was a Recession looming. They even had a news reel from 2008. But there is nothing on their website. And so we are being gradually being drip fed the inevitable. Frogs in water in a gradually heating saucepan.
The world will keep turning, stock up on the bog roll now
Wiping our ass will be the least of our worries......
Yeah, the Muslim uprising is scaring me
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2025, 09:38:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2025, 09:36:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2025, 09:35:38 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2025, 09:21:22 PMRTE has a bit on the News that there was a Recession looming. They even had a news reel from 2008. But there is nothing on their website. And so we are being gradually being drip fed the inevitable. Frogs in water in a gradually heating saucepan.
The world will keep turning, stock up on the bog roll now
Wiping our ass will be the least of our worries......
Yeah, the Muslim uprising is scaring me
We won't be here for that....
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 26, 2025, 01:44:19 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2025, 09:38:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2025, 09:36:20 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2025, 09:35:38 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2025, 09:21:22 PMRTE has a bit on the News that there was a Recession looming. They even had a news reel from 2008. But there is nothing on their website. And so we are being gradually being drip fed the inevitable. Frogs in water in a gradually heating saucepan.
The world will keep turning, stock up on the bog roll now
Wiping our ass will be the least of our worries......
Yeah, the Muslim uprising is scaring me
We won't be here for that....
Been over 1400 years since its inception. So 600 odd behind the Christians
By 2050 the Muslim religion will still only be at 30% of the world population
It's safe to say I'll be missing out on that, and won't be too worried either, this talk about our kids and grand kids... That will be a 'their' problem
Astonishing nihilism
I see Flahive before the Courts for typical nazifascist scumbaggery.
The former leader of Reform UK in Wales, Nathan Gill, has pleaded guilty at the Old Bailey to eight bribery charges while an elected member of the European Parliament.
The charges relate to making favourable statements about Russia in exchange for money during his time as a member of the European Parliament.
https://x.com/ITVWales/status/1971544129373941846
The tip of the iceberg.
Incredible how this is selectively applied, demonstration of how fake democracy is.
The roster who are openly paid influence agents for Israel get a pass
Yanks attempting to overthrow Danish gov in Greenland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo
What a lovely specimen of humanity.....
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/troll-who-posted-malicious-jim-gavin-comments-previously-feuded-with-gang-boss/a1484522181.html
Quote from: Rossfan on September 29, 2025, 03:57:07 PMWhat a lovely specimen of humanity.....
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/troll-who-posted-malicious-jim-gavin-comments-previously-feuded-with-gang-boss/a1484522181.html
I haven't decided if he is a Walter Mitty or stone-cold mental.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 29, 2025, 05:22:18 PMQuote from: Rossfan on September 29, 2025, 03:57:07 PMWhat a lovely specimen of humanity.....
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/troll-who-posted-malicious-jim-gavin-comments-previously-feuded-with-gang-boss/a1484522181.html
I haven't decided if he is a Walter Mitty or stone-cold mental.
Thinking the same, but if (and that possibility looks pretty farfetched) a fraction of what he says is true, then he'd have a lot of competition in the lovely specimen category.
https://news.sky.com/story/they-are-not-stealing-your-jobs-britains-asylum-seeker-capital-divided-as-tensions-rise-13436248
Its the asylum seekers I feel sorry for, imagine arriving in the UK and being told you are moving to Glasgow. As usual the most vocal critics lets just say would not be massive contributors to the the GDP of Scotland.
A primary school student assaulted near the Citywest
Anyone listen to the shear shite of a man on fb, the great province wide protest Steven Ottribe Baker?
My god! Try's to join the province with these far right protests but sticks the boot into SF and others that don't agree!
Social media will give everyone brain rot
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 20, 2025, 08:15:35 PMA primary school student assaulted near the Citywest
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/gardai-investigating-alleged-rape-10-36103970
Quote from: Tubberman on October 20, 2025, 08:37:48 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on October 20, 2025, 08:15:35 PMA primary school student assaulted near the Citywest
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/gardai-investigating-alleged-rape-10-36103970
Awful stuff. Poor child.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 20, 2025, 08:44:05 PMQuote from: Tubberman on October 20, 2025, 08:37:48 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on October 20, 2025, 08:15:35 PMA primary school student assaulted near the Citywest
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/gardai-investigating-alleged-rape-10-36103970
Awful stuff. Poor child.
Was the child staying in the place where the murder took place recently?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2025, 08:49:20 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 20, 2025, 08:44:05 PMQuote from: Tubberman on October 20, 2025, 08:37:48 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on October 20, 2025, 08:15:35 PMA primary school student assaulted near the Citywest
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/gardai-investigating-alleged-rape-10-36103970
Awful stuff. Poor child.
Was the child staying in the place where the murder took place recently?
Very unlikely. The murder was on the northside. No idea how a 10 year old girl ended up in the grounds of an IPAS centre....
This is the one thing we didn't want to happen
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 20, 2025, 09:05:56 PMThis is the one thing we didn't want to happen
Thats what happens when they bring in every randomer. There was some of them drinking on school grounds last week.
Unfortunately incidents like this, and there will be more, are the outworkings of people arriving here from countries and cultures that are not compatible with ours.
That have no understanding or care about consent, where law and order does not exist, where rape is no big deal, where women aren't allowed to drive or be seen.
I lived and travelled in sub Saharan African countries for a brief time.
You ain't seen nothing yet....
Oh yeah: import the third world, become the...
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 20, 2025, 10:00:25 PMI lived and travelled in sub Saharan African countries for a brief time.
You ain't seen nothing yet....
Did they kick you out as a foreign immigrant?
I was a guest travelling on the correct visa. Funnily they charge at borders for Brit passports but God bless the GFA.
Apparently the African 'asylum seeker' who raped the 10 year old Irish girl had his application turned down six years ago, yet was still getting food, accommodation, and benefits from the state. Cool, huh, this 'self-deportation' system.
Protests in Dublin the night
Garda van set alright
Hopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 21, 2025, 08:42:57 PMHopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
Yep the asylum mess is giving the vast majority of ordinary decent foreigners in this country a bad name in the eyes of those not best informed.
A third of subsaharan adults want to migrate permanently & that was a 2011 Gallup poll.
With Internet and magnet pull factors provided by western states I'd imagine the actual figure is much greater now.
Hard to think of any challenge greater in European history given the prevailing culture.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 08:46:35 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 21, 2025, 08:42:57 PMHopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
Yep the asylum mess is giving the vast majority of ordinary decent foreigners in this country a bad name in the eyes of those not best informed.
Ordinary decent people don't have a problem with ordinary decent foreigners who are a) here working and raising a family, or b) seeking refuge from actual war.
They do have a problem with economic migrants who contribute nothing to our society financially or otherwise, and are now causing understandable fear for those who live in the vicinity of these "accommodation hubs"
Good to see that the old "self deportation"'is working like a charm
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 21, 2025, 08:42:57 PMHopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
They will do their best but they are on the outskirts. Nearest stuff to burn is Jobstown, the far right are thick, but not suicidal
Quote from: Tubberman on October 21, 2025, 08:59:33 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 08:46:35 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 21, 2025, 08:42:57 PMHopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
Yep the asylum mess is giving the vast majority of ordinary decent foreigners in this country a bad name in the eyes of those not best informed.
Ordinary decent people don't have a problem with ordinary decent foreigners who are a) here working and raising a family, or b) seeking refuge from actual war.
They do have a problem with economic migrants who contribute nothing to our society financially or otherwise, and are now causing understandable fear for those who live in the vicinity of these "accommodation hubs"
I agree 100%. But wasn't there families burnt out there homes in Ballymena who were decent people?
Ordinary decent people shouldn't suffer.
Every migrant should be screened coming into this country and made to contribute to society... The guy down in tullamore never contributed to society how did he get away with it for so long?
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 09:38:22 PMEvery migrant should be screened coming into this country and made to contribute to society... The guy down in tullamore never contributed to society how did he get away with it for so long?
He wasn't breaking any rules though. The system gave him and his large family a very generous living.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 08:46:35 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 21, 2025, 08:42:57 PMHopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
Yep the asylum mess is giving the vast majority of ordinary decent foreigners in this country a bad name in the eyes of those not best informed.
Yes, it does.
Once word gets out that a country like Ireland is a soft touch for bogus applicants, it becomes a favoured destination for bogus applicants.
Then genuine migrants who meet the criteria have the status diminished by the bad eggs.
It's in no one's interests to have a free-for-all where the rules are broken and ignored.
Maybe Ireland can put on an anti rape PowerPoint presentation to explain its not the done thing, like they did in Sweden.
Or maybe the Finnish idea which has ended all rape and sexual assault...I assume?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35353310
Quote from: Tubberman on October 21, 2025, 08:59:33 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 08:46:35 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 21, 2025, 08:42:57 PMHopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
Yep the asylum mess is giving the vast majority of ordinary decent foreigners in this country a bad name in the eyes of those not best informed.
Ordinary decent people don't have a problem with ordinary decent foreigners who are a) here working and raising a family, or b) seeking refuge from actual war.
They do have a problem with economic migrants who contribute nothing to our society financially or otherwise, and are now causing understandable fear for those who live in the vicinity of these "accommodation hubs"
Quote from: Tubberman on October 21, 2025, 08:59:33 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 08:46:35 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 21, 2025, 08:42:57 PMHopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
Yep the asylum mess is giving the vast majority of ordinary decent foreigners in this country a bad name in the eyes of those not best informed.
Ordinary decent people don't have a problem with ordinary decent foreigners who are a) here working and raising a family, or b) seeking refuge from actual war.
They do have a problem with economic migrants who contribute nothing to our society financially or otherwise, and are now causing understandable fear for those who live in the vicinity of these "accommodation hubs"
100%. But theres unfortunately plenty of idiots too thick to differentiate.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 09:38:22 PMQuote from: Tubberman on October 21, 2025, 08:59:33 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 08:46:35 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 21, 2025, 08:42:57 PMHopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
Yep the asylum mess is giving the vast majority of ordinary decent foreigners in this country a bad name in the eyes of those not best informed.
Ordinary decent people don't have a problem with ordinary decent foreigners who are a) here working and raising a family, or b) seeking refuge from actual war.
They do have a problem with economic migrants who contribute nothing to our society financially or otherwise, and are now causing understandable fear for those who live in the vicinity of these "accommodation hubs"
I agree 100%. But wasn't there families burnt out there homes in Ballymena who were decent people?
Ordinary decent people shouldn't suffer.
Every migrant should be screened coming into this country and made to contribute to society... The guy down in tullamore never contributed to society how did he get away with it for so long?
How do you screen when you don't know who they are ?
A recent high profile example, the man convicted of sexual assault of the 14 year old girls that was staying in the hotel in Epping, Essex - even at the end of the legal process they weren't sure what age he was ::)
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 21, 2025, 10:05:49 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 09:38:22 PMQuote from: Tubberman on October 21, 2025, 08:59:33 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 08:46:35 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 21, 2025, 08:42:57 PMHopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
Yep the asylum mess is giving the vast majority of ordinary decent foreigners in this country a bad name in the eyes of those not best informed.
Ordinary decent people don't have a problem with ordinary decent foreigners who are a) here working and raising a family, or b) seeking refuge from actual war.
They do have a problem with economic migrants who contribute nothing to our society financially or otherwise, and are now causing understandable fear for those who live in the vicinity of these "accommodation hubs"
I agree 100%. But wasn't there families burnt out there homes in Ballymena who were decent people?
Ordinary decent people shouldn't suffer.
Every migrant should be screened coming into this country and made to contribute to society... The guy down in tullamore never contributed to society how did he get away with it for so long?
How do you screen when you don't know who they are ?
A recent high profile example, the man convicted of sexual assault of the 14 year old girls that was staying in the hotel in Epping, Essex - even at the end of the legal process they weren't sure what age he was ::)
Shouldn't be letting in people we know nothing about. Wasn't the guy in Tullamore an allegeded repeat offender on the continent or am I incorrect on that?
Australia have some of the most stringent immigration laws how do they do it?
I know we are somewhat handcuffed by being in the EU but from a screening point of view.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 10:20:09 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on October 21, 2025, 10:05:49 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 09:38:22 PMQuote from: Tubberman on October 21, 2025, 08:59:33 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on October 21, 2025, 08:46:35 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 21, 2025, 08:42:57 PMHopefully not another massive night of rioting and looting like November 2023.
We really need to be sort out the asylum mess. Big Jim O'Callaghan needs to buy more planes to clean up shop.
Yep the asylum mess is giving the vast majority of ordinary decent foreigners in this country a bad name in the eyes of those not best informed.
Ordinary decent people don't have a problem with ordinary decent foreigners who are a) here working and raising a family, or b) seeking refuge from actual war.
They do have a problem with economic migrants who contribute nothing to our society financially or otherwise, and are now causing understandable fear for those who live in the vicinity of these "accommodation hubs"
I agree 100%. But wasn't there families burnt out there homes in Ballymena who were decent people?
Ordinary decent people shouldn't suffer.
Every migrant should be screened coming into this country and made to contribute to society... The guy down in tullamore never contributed to society how did he get away with it for so long?
How do you screen when you don't know who they are ?
A recent high profile example, the man convicted of sexual assault of the 14 year old girls that was staying in the hotel in Epping, Essex - even at the end of the legal process they weren't sure what age he was ::)
Shouldn't be letting in people we know nothing about. Wasn't the guy in Tullamore an allegeded repeat offender on the continent or am I incorrect on that?
Australia have some of the most stringent immigration laws how do they do it?
I know we are somewhat handcuffed by being in the EU but from a screening point of view.
Same with Covid. Australia and NZ were on top of that. Where they are situated helps.
I see Poland now has a problem with tunnels. They were very strict on immigration.
https://www.euronews.com/2025/10/19/poland-not-an-isolated-case-what-to-know-about-secret-migrant-tunnel-systems
Utter scum out rioting.
What good will that do.
But huge changes are definitely needed around immigration. What they are I don't know, but this isn't sustainable.
How the f**k can a Garda van be burned or lines be pushed back.
Surely they knew what was coming tonight, so why were they not ready?!
Its the same shower kicking off online and instigating it.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 21, 2025, 11:03:32 PMUtter scum out rioting.
What good will that do.
But huge changes are definitely needed around immigration. What they are I don't know, but this isn't sustainable.
Bit like the riots in the north in the old days, eh? At least it shows people aren't willing to take it lying down any more.
Remigration.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 21, 2025, 11:30:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 21, 2025, 11:03:32 PMUtter scum out rioting.
What good will that do.
But huge changes are definitely needed around immigration. What they are I don't know, but this isn't sustainable.
Bit like the riots in the north in the old days, eh? At least it shows people aren't willing to take it lying down any more.
Remigration.
Bit like the gobshites in Ballymena recently.
Them foreigners are wrecking our communities and costing too much money, I've a great idea lets go and wreck the place place and cost the state a fortune in policing and clean up...
Too thick to see Musk, Farage and co pulling the strings..
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 21, 2025, 11:45:20 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 21, 2025, 11:30:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 21, 2025, 11:03:32 PMUtter scum out rioting.
What good will that do.
But huge changes are definitely needed around immigration. What they are I don't know, but this isn't sustainable.
Bit like the riots in the north in the old days, eh? At least it shows people aren't willing to take it lying down any more.
Remigration.
Bit like the gobshites in Ballymena recently.
Them foreigners are wrecking our communities and costing too much money, I've a great idea lets go and wreck the place place and cost the state a fortune in policing and clean up...
Too thick to see Musk, Farage and co pulling the strings..
Suffice to say all such individuals probably still lying in their beds as we speak, definitely not getting ready to do a days work.
Quote from: LC on October 22, 2025, 07:33:54 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 21, 2025, 11:45:20 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 21, 2025, 11:30:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 21, 2025, 11:03:32 PMUtter scum out rioting.
What good will that do.
But huge changes are definitely needed around immigration. What they are I don't know, but this isn't sustainable.
Bit like the riots in the north in the old days, eh? At least it shows people aren't willing to take it lying down any more.
Remigration.
Bit like the gobshites in Ballymena recently.
Them foreigners are wrecking our communities and costing too much money, I've a great idea lets go and wreck the place place and cost the state a fortune in policing and clean up...
Too thick to see Musk, Farage and co pulling the strings..
Suffice to say all such individuals probably still lying in their beds as we speak, definitely not getting ready to do a days work.
Bit like Tommy Robinsons mates, all with sore backs getting plenty of coin on the sick :D.
Yes because people fighting back against a police force that was actively colluding to murder citizens is just the same as wee Conir McGregor loving, braindead, racist scrotes out trying to burn hotels. ::)
Quote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:03:58 AMYes because people fighting back against a police force that was actively colluding to murder citizens is just the same as wee Conir McGregor loving, braindead, racist scrotes out trying to burn hotels. ::)
Funny how these northern anti-nationalists are so welcoming of the new plantation.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 08:07:45 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:03:58 AMYes because people fighting back against a police force that was actively colluding to murder citizens is just the same as wee Conir McGregor loving, braindead, racist scrotes out trying to burn hotels. ::)
Funny how these northern anti-nationalists are so welcoming of the new plantation.
"New plantation" ::) Conor McGregor tell you what to think about everything? He is a rapist now, so ye know.... maybe not the best role model to follow when it comes to the self proclaimed protectors of women.
Quote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:27:30 AMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 08:07:45 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:03:58 AMYes because people fighting back against a police force that was actively colluding to murder citizens is just the same as wee Conir McGregor loving, braindead, racist scrotes out trying to burn hotels. ::)
Funny how these northern anti-nationalists are so welcoming of the new plantation.
"New plantation" ::) Conor McGregor tell you what to think about everything? He is a rapist now, so ye know.... maybe not the best role model to follow when it comes to the self proclaimed protectors of women.
That's right - new plantation. More people have come into the country in a shorter time, than did during the previous plantation.
You don't have to follow Conor McGregor to know the difference between right and wrong.
Meanwhile, the deluded left is doing the bidding of the capitalist class. Funny, really.
Quote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:27:30 AMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 08:07:45 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:03:58 AMYes because people fighting back against a police force that was actively colluding to murder citizens is just the same as wee Conir McGregor loving, braindead, racist scrotes out trying to burn hotels. ::)
Funny how these northern anti-nationalists are so welcoming of the new plantation.
"New plantation" ::) Conor McGregor tell you what to think about everything? He is a rapist now, so ye know.... maybe not the best role model to follow when it comes to the self proclaimed protectors of women.
Funny enough the venn diagram of people arrested in Ballymena who were "protecting women" and people with a record for domestic violence was basically a circle...
That's not how venn diagrams work.
Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 08:42:07 AMThat's not how venn diagrams work.
I'm sure you knew his point though. What was it you were saying about being obtuse or pedantic once?
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 08:33:15 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:27:30 AMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 08:07:45 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:03:58 AMYes because people fighting back against a police force that was actively colluding to murder citizens is just the same as wee Conir McGregor loving, braindead, racist scrotes out trying to burn hotels. ::)
Funny how these northern anti-nationalists are so welcoming of the new plantation.
"New plantation" ::) Conor McGregor tell you what to think about everything? He is a rapist now, so ye know.... maybe not the best role model to follow when it comes to the self proclaimed protectors of women.
That's right - new plantation. More people have come into the country in a shorter time, than did during the previous plantation.
You don't have to follow Conor McGregor to know the difference between right and wrong.
Meanwhile, the deluded left is doing the bidding of the capitalist class. Funny, really.
Whatever you say Conor.
Quote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:47:17 AMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 08:33:15 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:27:30 AMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 08:07:45 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:03:58 AMYes because people fighting back against a police force that was actively colluding to murder citizens is just the same as wee Conir McGregor loving, braindead, racist scrotes out trying to burn hotels. ::)
Funny how these northern anti-nationalists are so welcoming of the new plantation.
"New plantation" ::) Conor McGregor tell you what to think about everything? He is a rapist now, so ye know.... maybe not the best role model to follow when it comes to the self proclaimed protectors of women.
That's right - new plantation. More people have come into the country in a shorter time, than did during the previous plantation.
You don't have to follow Conor McGregor to know the difference between right and wrong.
Meanwhile, the deluded left is doing the bidding of the capitalist class. Funny, really.
Whatever you say Conor.
Wow. Good point.
It's a better point that spouting dung about a great replacement though.
Quote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:46:07 AMQuote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 08:42:07 AMThat's not how venn diagrams work.
I'm sure you knew his point though. What was it you were saying about being obtuse or pedantic once?
Of course I got his point. I don't recall anywhere where I said board members can't have a little fun though, do you?
Just you keep on jumping to the defence of lads who describe Kingsmill as necessary and think sub-Saharan immigrants from "places like Somalia" are "scum" while suggesting Ukrainian immigrants are "decent" people from a "civilised" country.
Now, I wonder if anyone could figure out why someone might be what could be labelled pro-immigration, or welcoming, or, at the very least, "not openly hostile" to Ukrainian immigrants/refugees but be so openly opposed to Somalians, expressing concern as to "god knows who or what we're getting." Anything you can think of? Strange bedfellow to make if you ask me, but each to their own.
Quote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 09:05:10 AMIt's a better point that spouting dung about a great replacement though.
I didn't.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 08:07:45 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:03:58 AMYes because people fighting back against a police force that was actively colluding to murder citizens is just the same as wee Conir McGregor loving, braindead, racist scrotes out trying to burn hotels. ::)
Funny how these northern anti-nationalists are so welcoming of the new plantation.
Where were west brits like you when thousands of unvetted men of military fighting age were actually killing women and children in the north of the country? I'll let you in on a secret, they're still in the north. People like you sat on your hands and did f**k all, and continue to do f**k all, while part of this country is still under occupation.
The violence which broke out outside an accommodation centre for international protection applicants in Dublin last night was orchestrated and preplanned online, the garda officer in charge of the policing operation has said.
Scene Commander Chief Superintendent Michael McNulty described it as "a public gathering organised by disparate groups on social media who stir up hatred and violence and encourage others to get involved".
Gardaí had intelligence that violence was being planned last night and issued a call out two hours before the protest commenced to trained public order officers from outside the Dublin region to report for duty if available.
Officers from Kildare, Laois and Waterford responded and travelled to Dublin to support the policing operation.
The protest began after a man had appeared in court charged with the sexual assault of a girl two days ago.
Garda Commissioner Justin Kelly described the scenes of violence during a protest outside an accommodation centre for international protection applicants at Citywest as "thuggery".
Around 2,000 people attended the protest, but shortly afterwards hooded and masked men threw missiles and fireworks at gardaí, vandalised the Luas stop and a garda van was set on fire.
Six people were arrested for public order offences, while one female garda sustained foot injuries.
Fascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Irish people are great craic and the world loves us. So why did this happen? Maybe society didnt do enough for the gentleman. Maybe society is structurally racist?
Shame on us. Shame on Ireland and the Irish.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
They are fascists and thugs, that goes without saying and its a terrible shame on our society that these people have mobilised in the past 10 years. Racism and hate can only really grow and develop in a dysfunctional society. The housing crisis, wealth inequality, cost of living have people disillusioned with matters. There are a lot of angry, misguided people and sadly the breeding ground for the far right is working class communities. They are stuck in a poverty trap, they don't see themselves owning houses or having the lives they see others have.
There is a rising and global far right movement and neo-liberal policies have made the perfect breeding ground to attract young, uneducated, anrgy disillusioned people (predominantly from working class communities) who feel alienated from society and rather than the governments who have created the policies where wealth inequality has grown, the far right have infilitrated these communities and told them that foreigners are the problem. It's a desperately sad state of affairs.
I think the government have enabled the far right by using kiddy gloves in relation to them. We have seen heavy handed Gardai presence at left wing peaceful demonstrations over the years but they have done very little to combat these aggressive and violent demonstrations by the far right over the past 3/4 years.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
What's the message of the rioters? Sexual assault is bad? Groundbreaking stuff.
29% of adults in Ireland experienced sexual assault as a minor. 3407 cases of sexual assault in 2023.
What's different here or why the sudden interest?
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 22, 2025, 10:24:20 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
What's the message of the rioters? Sexual assault is bad? Groundbreaking stuff.
29% of adults in Ireland experienced sexual assault as a minor. 3407 cases of sexual assault in 2023.
What's different here or why the sudden interest?
f**king hell thats a wild stat!
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:37:12 AMQuote from: RedHand88 on October 22, 2025, 10:24:20 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
What's the message of the rioters? Sexual assault is bad? Groundbreaking stuff.
29% of adults in Ireland experienced sexual assault as a minor. 3407 cases of sexual assault in 2023.
What's different here or why the sudden interest?
f**king hell thats a wild stat!
Indeed.
https://www.drcc.ie/news-resources/sexual-violence-information/sexual-violence-prevalence/ (https://www.drcc.ie/news-resources/sexual-violence-information/sexual-violence-prevalence/)
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:18:19 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
They are fascists and thugs, that goes without saying and its a terrible shame on our society that these people have mobilised in the past 10 years. Racism and hate can only really grow and develop in a dysfunctional society. The housing crisis, wealth inequality, cost of living have people disillusioned with matters. There are a lot of angry, misguided people and sadly the breeding ground for the far right is working class communities. They are stuck in a poverty trap, they don't see themselves owning houses or having the lives they see others have.
There is a rising and global far right movement and neo-liberal policies have made the perfect breeding ground to attract young, uneducated, anrgy disillusioned people (predominantly from working class communities) who feel alienated from society and rather than the governments who have created the policies where wealth inequality has grown, the far right have infilitrated these communities and told them that foreigners are the problem. It's a desperately sad state of affairs.
I think the government have enabled the far right by using kiddy gloves in relation to them. We have seen heavy handed Gardai presence at left wing peaceful demonstrations over the years but they have done very little to combat these aggressive and violent demonstrations by the far right over the past 3/4 years.
So to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.
——
Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.
You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.
Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:11:08 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:18:19 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
They are fascists and thugs, that goes without saying and its a terrible shame on our society that these people have mobilised in the past 10 years. Racism and hate can only really grow and develop in a dysfunctional society. The housing crisis, wealth inequality, cost of living have people disillusioned with matters. There are a lot of angry, misguided people and sadly the breeding ground for the far right is working class communities. They are stuck in a poverty trap, they don't see themselves owning houses or having the lives they see others have.
There is a rising and global far right movement and neo-liberal policies have made the perfect breeding ground to attract young, uneducated, anrgy disillusioned people (predominantly from working class communities) who feel alienated from society and rather than the governments who have created the policies where wealth inequality has grown, the far right have infilitrated these communities and told them that foreigners are the problem. It's a desperately sad state of affairs.
I think the government have enabled the far right by using kiddy gloves in relation to them. We have seen heavy handed Gardai presence at left wing peaceful demonstrations over the years but they have done very little to combat these aggressive and violent demonstrations by the far right over the past 3/4 years.
So to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.
——
Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.
You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.
that's a very poor summary.
Would protesting Govt be a better use of time than targeting the 'foreigners', it might be worth clarifying which 'foreigners' you mean too.
Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:11:08 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:18:19 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
They are fascists and thugs, that goes without saying and its a terrible shame on our society that these people have mobilised in the past 10 years. Racism and hate can only really grow and develop in a dysfunctional society. The housing crisis, wealth inequality, cost of living have people disillusioned with matters. There are a lot of angry, misguided people and sadly the breeding ground for the far right is working class communities. They are stuck in a poverty trap, they don't see themselves owning houses or having the lives they see others have.
There is a rising and global far right movement and neo-liberal policies have made the perfect breeding ground to attract young, uneducated, anrgy disillusioned people (predominantly from working class communities) who feel alienated from society and rather than the governments who have created the policies where wealth inequality has grown, the far right have infilitrated these communities and told them that foreigners are the problem. It's a desperately sad state of affairs.
I think the government have enabled the far right by using kiddy gloves in relation to them. We have seen heavy handed Gardai presence at left wing peaceful demonstrations over the years but they have done very little to combat these aggressive and violent demonstrations by the far right over the past 3/4 years.
So to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.
——
Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.
You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.
I think there should be peaceful protests- the whole asylum/immigration system needs updated to provide a safe opportunity for people coming here to work/better their lives, quick decisions need made and people who have applied need told yes or no and if no then deported asap.
Scumbags burning things should be dealt with appropriately. Genuine concerns of communities need listened too and incidents like what happened to that young girl are vile and should never have happened.
The people weaponising that to riot are scum and are being urged on by the super rich and their puppets- Musk, Farage, McGregor etc..
Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:11:08 AMSo to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.
——
Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.
You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.
Where were these guys when the FFG governments were imposing austerity on its population, when they were placing a crippling national debt on the population? When they were selling national resources and assets to foreign investors for a song. When they were eroding the public health service, when they were creating a housing crisis and using private and commercial landlords to profit from solving it?
They were nowhere, they were sitting at home and not politically active. Before Covid the south was in the midst of a housing crisis, the health system was crippled every Winter.
But when immigration starts to ramp up, that's when these easily led, unedcuated people begin to find their voice. Conincidence?
I think you are exposing yourself to be a very nasty and cynical person here. I believe you are more educated than some of those guys who know better which makes your views all the more concerning.
The framing of the first part of your post is disingenuous. There was a young girl at the centre of a horrific sexual assault. These racist thugs don't care about that girl, they are cynically exploiting her to spread incite hatred and violence against immigrants. Its a bit like what happened up in Ballymena, the crime doesn't matter to racists - only the perpetrator.
Its depressing to see Irish people sinking to the level of loyalism. Are you a loyalist?
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 22, 2025, 11:19:04 AMQuote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:11:08 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:18:19 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
They are fascists and thugs, that goes without saying and its a terrible shame on our society that these people have mobilised in the past 10 years. Racism and hate can only really grow and develop in a dysfunctional society. The housing crisis, wealth inequality, cost of living have people disillusioned with matters. There are a lot of angry, misguided people and sadly the breeding ground for the far right is working class communities. They are stuck in a poverty trap, they don't see themselves owning houses or having the lives they see others have.
There is a rising and global far right movement and neo-liberal policies have made the perfect breeding ground to attract young, uneducated, anrgy disillusioned people (predominantly from working class communities) who feel alienated from society and rather than the governments who have created the policies where wealth inequality has grown, the far right have infilitrated these communities and told them that foreigners are the problem. It's a desperately sad state of affairs.
I think the government have enabled the far right by using kiddy gloves in relation to them. We have seen heavy handed Gardai presence at left wing peaceful demonstrations over the years but they have done very little to combat these aggressive and violent demonstrations by the far right over the past 3/4 years.
So to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.
——
Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.
You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.
that's a very poor summary.
Would protesting Govt be a better use of time than targeting the 'foreigners', it might be worth clarifying which 'foreigners' you mean too.
There probably should be a distinction between genuinely concerned locals and scumbags who go on the rampage. I'd say a lot of the locals are angry over what they see as a lack of consultation with their community on the opening of the centre and no follow up of support services to cope with the influx of people to the area. This is a nationwide problem.
I don't think telling them to go somewhere else to protest would be helpful. They will see that as just being told to lump it or being gaslit, something they feel the government has being doing all along anyway. It's the centre they're unhappy with so they'll protest at the centre. Unfortunately once an incident like the assault happens people are going to lose their minds. FFS parents with young children in the area are rightly going to get their backs up. Who wants incidents like that in the area. So more people than normal will turn out. And unfortunately that's going to attract elements that behave like animals.
I don't know what the answer is. It's not going to be pretty and it's not going to be isolated. But if the government deal in an appropriate way with the no.1 sc**bag in this incident, the abuser, and government can actually implement an asylum and vetting system that isn't a joke, incidents like this may be less volatile in future. But seeing the likes of Roderic O'Gorman living it up on instagram with stupid posts of some gig or other he's at, all while this shite is going on, will not fill such people with confidence in government. It's extremely bad optics.
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 22, 2025, 10:24:20 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
What's the message of the rioters? Sexual assault is bad? Groundbreaking stuff.
29% of adults in Ireland experienced sexual assault as a minor. 3407 cases of sexual assault in 2023.
What's different here or why the sudden interest?
oh I think we all know the answer to this
"Unedcuated"
"Conincidence"
Its beautiful
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 22, 2025, 11:48:34 AM"Unedcuated"
"Conincidence"
Its beautiful
What do you disagree with?
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 11:42:26 AMQuote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:11:08 AMSo to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.
——
Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.
You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.
Where were these guys when the FFG governments were imposing austerity on its population, when they were placing a crippling national debt on the population? When they were selling national resources and assets to foreign investors for a song. When they were eroding the public health service, when they were creating a housing crisis and using private and commercial landlords to profit from solving it?
They were nowhere, they were sitting at home and not politically active. Before Covid the south was in the midst of a housing crisis, the health system was crippled every Winter.
But when immigration starts to ramp up, that's when these easily led, unedcuated people begin to find their voice. Conincidence?
I think you are exposing yourself to be a very nasty and cynical person here. I believe you are more educated than some of those guys who know better which makes your views all the more concerning.
The framing of the first part of your post is disingenuous. There was a young girl at the centre of a horrific sexual assault. These racist thugs don't care about that girl, they are cynically exploiting her to spread incite hatred and violence against immigrants. Its a bit like what happened up in Ballymena, the crime doesn't matter to racists - only the perpetrator.
Its depressing to see Irish people sinking to the level of loyalism. Are you a loyalist?
And I think you're exposing yourself as fulfilling the "self appointed educated left" juxtaposition, whereby you are capable of showing extreme tolerance of everyone and everything.... but only as long as they share your political views.
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 22, 2025, 10:24:20 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.
Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.
You have a brass neck.
Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.
Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...
What's the message of the rioters? Sexual assault is bad? Groundbreaking stuff.
29% of adults in Ireland experienced sexual assault as a minor. 3407 cases of sexual assault in 2023.
What's different here or why the sudden interest?
We all know the answer to that😉
Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:57:25 AMAnd I think you're exposing yourself as fulfilling the "self appointed educated left" juxtaposition, whereby you are capable of showing extreme tolerance of everyone and everything.... but only as long as they share your political views.
You're exposing yourself as small minded and a defender of far right thugs exploiting a young girl at the centre of a heinous crime for really sinister objectives.
Were you defending the loyalist thugs in Ballymena months back as well?
When all you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 12:10:02 PMQuote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:57:25 AMAnd I think you're exposing yourself as fulfilling the "self appointed educated left" juxtaposition, whereby you are capable of showing extreme tolerance of everyone and everything.... but only as long as they share your political views.
You're exposing yourself as small minded and a defender of far right thugs exploiting a young girl at the centre of a heinous crime for really sinister objectives.
Were you defending the loyalist thugs in Ballymena months back as well?
Jesus, you northerners are obsessed with loyalists. You know, I used to want a united Ireland, but now I'm not so sure. Too many Palestinians. People IN THE SOUTH should be angry about the rape of a 10 year girl by someone who HAS NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. And what are these "sinister objectives" you're on about? Wanting people who have no right to be here, to not be here? Oooh. How dreadful.
Last week a Ukrianian murdered by a Somalian national. This week....
It just normal. Completely normal.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 12:26:15 PMJesus, you northerners are obsessed with loyalists. You know, I used to want a united Ireland, but now I'm not so sure. Too many Palestinians. People IN THE SOUTH should be angry about the rape of a 10 year girl by someone who HAS NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. And what are these "sinister objectives" you're on about? Wanting people who have no right to be here, to not be here? Oooh. How dreadful.
The last time they rioted was when it was an immigrant who committed a heinous crime on a child when he had citizenship here.
Why don't these same thugs who use crimes against children by immigrants as an excuse for violence against immigrant communities do the same Irish men do similar.
The loyalists are your boodies are they not. Seems to be close links between Coolock says No and the UVF, no?
You seem to be advocating for an exceptionalism here.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 12:26:15 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 12:10:02 PMQuote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:57:25 AMAnd I think you're exposing yourself as fulfilling the "self appointed educated left" juxtaposition, whereby you are capable of showing extreme tolerance of everyone and everything.... but only as long as they share your political views.
You're exposing yourself as small minded and a defender of far right thugs exploiting a young girl at the centre of a heinous crime for really sinister objectives.
Were you defending the loyalist thugs in Ballymena months back as well?
Jesus, you northerners are obsessed with loyalists. You know, I used to want a united Ireland, but now I'm not so sure. Too many Palestinians. People IN THE SOUTH should be angry about the rape of a 10 year girl by someone who HAS NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. And what are these "sinister objectives" you're on about? Wanting people who have no right to be here, to not be here? Oooh. How dreadful.
Na it's the hating every non white/non Irish person and being an absolute clown setting fire to stuff in your own community that sensible people have a problem with.
No issues with people protesting, the system is clearly failing when a sc**bag like that was in the country and free to commit that crime.
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2025/10/22/ninety-minutes-of-madness-how-the-citywest-riot-exploded-and-then-was-quelled/
"This is Ireland, this is our country, get them out, get them f***ing out," roared a woman through a loudhailer.
She was encouraging rioters to take on gardaí outside the Citywest accommodation centre for international protection applicants (IPAS) in Saggart, Co Dublin, on Tuesday night.
For almost two hours, lines of gardaí came under sustained attack from a mob. Many in the crowd were armed with fireworks, glass bottles, traffic cones and masonry obtained from demolishing a wall in the nearby Melbury Oaks housing estate.
Some householders rushed out of their properties to remonstrate with the rioters. But on seeing the sheer numbers of masked young men, many in a frenzy breaking down a wall with their bare hands, they immediately thought better of it and retreated.
In reality, after about 90 minutes of madness, well-drilled lines of gardaí made their move against the crowds and quickly asserted their dominance. Once the gardaí properly mobilised, it took them less than 30 minutes to split the protest group and quell the disturbance. This was very different from the events of Dublin city almost two years ago, notwithstanding the Garda van engulfed in flames, to the delight of the cheering crowd.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 11:42:26 AMIts depressing to see Irish people sinking to the level of loyalism. Are you a loyalist?
Straight out of the far right handbook that particular tactic.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 11:21:27 AMI think there should be peaceful protests- the whole asylum/immigration system needs updated to provide a safe opportunity for people coming here to work/better their lives
Not the black ones though based on your previous posts
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 12:10:02 PMQuote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:57:25 AMAnd I think you're exposing yourself as fulfilling the "self appointed educated left" juxtaposition, whereby you are capable of showing extreme tolerance of everyone and everything.... but only as long as they share your political views.
You're exposing yourself as small minded and a defender of far right thugs exploiting a young girl at the centre of a heinous crime for really sinister objectives.
Were you defending the loyalist thugs in Ballymena months back as well?
Small minded?
I'm a defender of what now? I haven't posted a single word of support for anyone on this thread.
You don't know me. You don't know anything about me. Not only are you quick to make assumptions, you're just as quick to become openly abusive towards me, based upon a political creed that if "you're not 100% with me, then you're against me".
The polarising effect of the "self appointed educated left" is so clear to everyone apart from those within. People like you, with your narrow beliefs agenda and political zealotry, do as much to create and fester a far right, as anyone beating the drum for right wing views.
Your thought process is dangerous.
Those like you are more responsible for the right wing than they can ever imagine.
Ignore function is a great yoke.
Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 01:13:16 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 12:10:02 PMQuote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:57:25 AMAnd I think you're exposing yourself as fulfilling the "self appointed educated left" juxtaposition, whereby you are capable of showing extreme tolerance of everyone and everything.... but only as long as they share your political views.
You're exposing yourself as small minded and a defender of far right thugs exploiting a young girl at the centre of a heinous crime for really sinister objectives.
Were you defending the loyalist thugs in Ballymena months back as well?
Small minded?
I'm a defender of what now? I haven't posted a single word of support for anyone on this thread.
You don't know me. You don't know anything about me. Not only are you quick to make assumptions, you're just as quick to become openly abusive towards me, based upon a political creed that if "you're not 100% with me, then you're against me".
The polarising effect of the "self appointed educated left" is so clear to everyone apart from those within. People like you, with your narrow beliefs agenda and political zealotry, do as much to create and fester a far right, as anyone beating the drum for right wing views.
Your thought process is dangerous.
Those like you are more responsible for the right wing than they can ever imagine.
To be fair the right can be a breeding ground for misinformation and just bold lies. This then causes a problem when it's pointed out and that's when you see names like "self appointed educated left" start to fly around. Education is rarely a bad thing.
The problem is when people, of whatever ideological bent, mistake "reading a load of shit on the internet and self-validating all my positions with my mates" for education.
That is true. And yet seems to be the main form of education these days unfortunately.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 12:38:34 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 12:26:15 PMJesus, you northerners are obsessed with loyalists. You know, I used to want a united Ireland, but now I'm not so sure. Too many Palestinians. People IN THE SOUTH should be angry about the rape of a 10 year girl by someone who HAS NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. And what are these "sinister objectives" you're on about? Wanting people who have no right to be here, to not be here? Oooh. How dreadful.
The last time they rioted was when it was an immigrant who committed a heinous crime on a child when he had citizenship here.
Why don't these same thugs who use crimes against children by immigrants as an excuse for violence against immigrant communities do the same Irish men do similar.
The loyalists are your boodies are they not. Seems to be close links between Coolock says No and the UVF, no?
You seem to be advocating for an exceptionalism here.
No, that Algerian shouldn't have been here. He was turned down for asylum, and was given stay to remain as part of some amnesty. In other words, they just couldn't be bothered deporting him. If I remember right, he also had a conviction. This Somalian child rapist will now be kept here in jail at our taxpayers' expense, and could easily end up staying here under some similar amnesty, also. Which you, no doubt, would welcome.
Irish people that do similar are our problem to deal with. And they are dealt with. Sometimes not harshly enough, I admit. What do you advocate - that we deport them? Send them over to England? Isn't that what your 'boodies' in the 'RA used to do? Let our scumbags infest someone else?
I have nothing to do with Coolock Says No, and no - the loyalists and UVF are not my 'boodies'. Boodie. How are your 'boodies' in Hamas this weather, by the way?
Given McGregor came up again in another thread recently, interesting to note that "you need to educate yourself" became a favourite refrain for a lot of his fanboys c. 2015-2019 who all of a sudden became online experts in jiu jitsu and US collegiate wrestling.
The Algerian national was involved in Islamic terrorism in France. A master in making fake passports apparently.
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/algerian-convicted-in-france-for-terrorist-offences-receives-date-for-extradition-hearing-1310590.html
Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 01:11:27 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 11:42:26 AMIts depressing to see Irish people sinking to the level of loyalism. Are you a loyalist?
Straight out of the far right handbook that particular tactic.
Turning a victim of a serious crime into an excuse riot and incite hatred.
I agree, it happened in Ballymena only a few months back. It is right out of the loyalist playbook and loyalism has long and deep connections to the British far right, C18 and BNP.
It's depressing to see a (presumably) Irish person sink to the level of Gemma O'Doherty. Or Trump. Or Tucker Carlson. Etc etc etc
Are you Gemma O'Doherty? Are you Trump? Are you Tucker Carlson?
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 02:13:46 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 12:38:34 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 12:26:15 PMJesus, you northerners are obsessed with loyalists. You know, I used to want a united Ireland, but now I'm not so sure. Too many Palestinians. People IN THE SOUTH should be angry about the rape of a 10 year girl by someone who HAS NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. And what are these "sinister objectives" you're on about? Wanting people who have no right to be here, to not be here? Oooh. How dreadful.
The last time they rioted was when it was an immigrant who committed a heinous crime on a child when he had citizenship here.
Why don't these same thugs who use crimes against children by immigrants as an excuse for violence against immigrant communities do the same Irish men do similar.
The loyalists are your boodies are they not. Seems to be close links between Coolock says No and the UVF, no?
You seem to be advocating for an exceptionalism here.
No, that Algerian shouldn't have been here. He was turned down for asylum, and was given stay to remain as part of some amnesty. In other words, they just couldn't be bothered deporting him. If I remember right, he also had a conviction. This Somalian child rapist will now be kept here in jail at our taxpayers' expense, and could easily end up staying here under some similar amnesty, also. Which you, no doubt, would welcome.
Irish people that do similar are our problem to deal with. And they are dealt with. Sometimes not harshly enough, I admit. What do you advocate - that we deport them? Send them over to England? Isn't that what your 'boodies' in the 'RA used to do? Let our scumbags infest someone else?
I have nothing to do with Coolock Says No, and no - the loyalists and UVF are not my 'boodies'. Boodie. How are your 'boodies' in Hamas this weather, by the way?
You've created exceptionalism for rape victims. They are tiered in your eyes depending on whether it was a foreigner or a native that committed heinous crimes.
That is a logic of a deeply troubled person.
Can we agree that all rape is wrong and all criminals should be treated better.
Do you not think you'd be better served protesting for harsher sentencing for sex offenders, for more Gardai on your streets, for a more functional and resourced justice system and prison service than whipping up racial tensions?
Are you really that much of a bigot?
Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 02:46:29 PMIt's depressing to see a (presumably) Irish person sink to the level of Gemma O'Doherty. Or Trump. Or Tucker Carlson. Etc etc etc
Are you Gemma O'Doherty? Are you Trump? Are you Tucker Carlson?
Another post of projection and smear.
Those people are the ones who attack minorities like you're doing here.
I'm calling out far right racism, I'm condemning the racist thugs who caused mayhem last night, who exploited a victim at the end of a serious crime to stir up racial hatred.
You're the right winger defending these fascist thugs. Those people you mentioned celebrate your politics.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 02:51:14 PMQuote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 02:46:29 PMIt's depressing to see a (presumably) Irish person sink to the level of Gemma O'Doherty. Or Trump. Or Tucker Carlson. Etc etc etc
Are you Gemma O'Doherty? Are you Trump? Are you Tucker Carlson?
Another post of projection and smear.
Those people are the ones who attack minorities like you're doing here.
I'm calling out far right racism, I'm condemning the racist thugs who casued mayhem last night, who exploited a victim at the end of a serious crime to stir up racial hatred.
You're the right winger defending these fascist thugs. Those people you mentioned celebrate your politics.
Show me where I attacked a minority or stfu.
You're a troll, nothing more. Not even a particularly good one.
Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 03:16:19 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 02:51:14 PMQuote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 02:46:29 PMIt's depressing to see a (presumably) Irish person sink to the level of Gemma O'Doherty. Or Trump. Or Tucker Carlson. Etc etc etc
Are you Gemma O'Doherty? Are you Trump? Are you Tucker Carlson?
Another post of projection and smear.
Those people are the ones who attack minorities like you're doing here.
I'm calling out far right racism, I'm condemning the racist thugs who casued mayhem last night, who exploited a victim at the end of a serious crime to stir up racial hatred.
You're the right winger defending these fascist thugs. Those people you mentioned celebrate your politics.
Show me where I attacked a minority or stfu.
You're a troll, nothing more. Not even a particularly good one.
More projection at me.
You have not condemned the far right. You have not said anything about how they are ratcheting up hatred by exploiting a victim of a serious crime.
You are the troll here, you are clearly a right wing mouth piece who attacks anyone who calls out racism and inciting hatred.
You've made a number of glib, nonsensical posts. Which part of what I said do you have an issue with?
That the people who were causing violent disorder at the protests last night were far right thugs only interested growing racial tensions and intimidating immigrants? Do you disagree with that?
Do you disagree with the parallels of what we saw from the loyalists in Ballymena to the far right thugs in Dublin?
Do you disagree that the same people who are not activists about immigrants had nothing to do or say about our government and all it social failures before immigration became an issue?
You go around and smear me then.
You are completely intolerant to having your views challenged and resort to smearing anyone who challenges your very hard right wing world view.
You're really, really boring me now. The same meaningless, pointless unsubstantiated guff ad nauseam. Just keep shouting longer and louder as all cranks and crackpots do.
Congrats on learning how to use AI to tidy up your spelling and grammar though. It's almost touching that you were so lonely you decided to come back to us but I imagine you'll be gone again soon.
The ages of the cnts....
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/five-men-charged-after-violent-riots-outside-dublin-hotel-housing-asylum-seekers/a1890674124.html
Mark Molloy looks a very, very rough 53.
Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 03:47:35 PMYou're really, really boring me now. The same meaningless, pointless unsubstantiated guff ad nauseam. Just keep shouting longer and louder as all cranks and crackpots do.
Congrats on learning how to use AI to tidy up your spelling and grammar though. It's almost touching that you were so lonely you decided to come back to us but I imagine you'll be gone again soon.
More projection from you.
So far your interactions me have been completely void of substance but riddled with insults and baseless accusations. It's not you who is bored with me, it's me who is bored with you.
A recap of what you have said so far:
Accused me of being an alias of Franko
Accused me of being a troll
Accused me of using AI
Accused me of being Gemma O'Doherty, Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump
Told me to STFU
You don't engage in good faith. You're a right wing troll who can't engage in anything of substance. Glib, meaningless condascending, abusive posts from you because anything to the left of your hard right wing political outlook triggers attacks and hostility.
We can disagree on politics. We clearly don't agree, you are on the very hard right spectrum politically and I am left of centre. We should be able to discuss politics like adults without your desperate attempts to lie and smear.
Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 03:57:08 PMMark Molloy looks a very, very rough 53.
Harsh light LOL
Where did I accuse you of being Franko?
Where did I accuse you of being Gemma et al? Is asking a question an accusation these days?
I didn't tell you to stfu. I told you to produce evidence of one of your many, many baseless claims or stfu. See the difference?
Deflect, deflect, deflect. Feign outrage at falsified claims. You're somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan ffs.
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Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 04:29:16 PMWhere did I accuse you of being Franko?
Where did I accuse you of being Gemma et al? Is asking a question an accusation these days?
I didn't tell you to stfu. I told you to produce evidence of one of your many, many baseless claims or stfu. See the difference?
Deflect, deflect, deflect. Feign outrage at falsified claims. You're somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan ffs.
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More projection and another glib post laden with insults and nothing whatsoever of substance.
Every accusation is a confession with you. You clearly have nothing of value to contribute here, only desperate attempts to troll me and smear me when I actually engage on a subject.
This is the last post when I will you indulge your trolling. You have no interest in engaging in good faith. It's beyond you
Course it is. Cheerio!
The same old argument.
"The quinn family are being exploited"
"The raped child is being exploited"
Its a real doozy for Shinners.
Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.
Have you done any charity work in the "global south" ?
Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 09:05:47 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 22, 2025, 08:46:07 AMQuote from: gallsman on October 22, 2025, 08:42:07 AMThat's not how venn diagrams work.
I'm sure you knew his point though. What was it you were saying about being obtuse or pedantic once?
Of course I got his point. I don't recall anywhere where I said board members can't have a little fun though, do you?
Just you keep on jumping to the defence of lads who describe Kingsmill as necessary and think sub-Saharan immigrants from "places like Somalia" are "scum" while suggesting Ukrainian immigrants are "decent" people from a "civilised" country.
Now, I wonder if anyone could figure out why someone might be what could be labelled pro-immigration, or welcoming, or, at the very least, "not openly hostile" to Ukrainian immigrants/refugees but be so openly opposed to Somalians, expressing concern as to "god knows who or what we're getting." Anything you can think of? Strange bedfellow to make if you ask me, but each to their own.
Quite the rant!
Bedfellows? lol I was merely commenting on your pedantry, saying as you made an issue of it before. Paid absolutely no attention to who it was that made the ven diagram comment that you were replying to, and even less to their previous comments on Kingsmill or whatever else. So happy to say you can take the tinfoil hat off now.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 02:49:05 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 02:13:46 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 12:38:34 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 22, 2025, 12:26:15 PMJesus, you northerners are obsessed with loyalists. You know, I used to want a united Ireland, but now I'm not so sure. Too many Palestinians. People IN THE SOUTH should be angry about the rape of a 10 year girl by someone who HAS NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. And what are these "sinister objectives" you're on about? Wanting people who have no right to be here, to not be here? Oooh. How dreadful.
The last time they rioted was when it was an immigrant who committed a heinous crime on a child when he had citizenship here.
Why don't these same thugs who use crimes against children by immigrants as an excuse for violence against immigrant communities do the same Irish men do similar.
The loyalists are your boodies are they not. Seems to be close links between Coolock says No and the UVF, no?
You seem to be advocating for an exceptionalism here.
No, that Algerian shouldn't have been here. He was turned down for asylum, and was given stay to remain as part of some amnesty. In other words, they just couldn't be bothered deporting him. If I remember right, he also had a conviction. This Somalian child rapist will now be kept here in jail at our taxpayers' expense, and could easily end up staying here under some similar amnesty, also. Which you, no doubt, would welcome.
Irish people that do similar are our problem to deal with. And they are dealt with. Sometimes not harshly enough, I admit. What do you advocate - that we deport them? Send them over to England? Isn't that what your 'boodies' in the 'RA used to do? Let our scumbags infest someone else?
I have nothing to do with Coolock Says No, and no - the loyalists and UVF are not my 'boodies'. Boodie. How are your 'boodies' in Hamas this weather, by the way?
You've created exceptionalism for rape victims. They are tiered in your eyes depending on whether it was a foreigner or a native that committed heinous crimes.
That is a logic of a deeply troubled person.
Can we agree that all rape is wrong and all criminals should be treated better.
Do you not think you'd be better served protesting for harsher sentencing for sex offenders, for more Gardai on your streets, for a more functional and resourced justice system and prison service than whipping up racial tensions?
Are you really that much of a bigot?
Ive never cared for this kind of attack on these rightwingers (in this case). Dont get me wrong, I take your point. But of course we can all agree all rape is wrong and we want to see all offenders locked up. I think this is a specific issue and the issue is that some of these attacks would be preventable if the government took a stronger stance on immigrants.
Think about the BLM protests. Were you saying "Black people are killing black people in america every day. Why do you only focus on when the white people / police officers commit the murders?" My guess is no you didnt say that (but if im wrong i apologise).
The point of that particular movement was: Yes, black on black crime is a massive issue. However we are focusing on this specific issue (police officers) because it is one we feel we can enact change. ... Or maybe all those protesters/rioters were just racists too.
There some new blow ins posters here just making a balls of a number of threads. Don't post much on actual fball mind you. So who's been banned not that long ago whos a new recarnation? Pity they could ban people of their IP addresses!!
The ignore function is a mighty thing.
An Garda Síochána take a leaf out of Ali's "rope a dope".
quotes from the Irish Times report
On Tuesday night in Citywest, Dublin, An Garda Síochána faced the biggest test of its public-order policing since the November 2023, city centre riots, when the organisation was badly exposed.
The Citywest riot was one of the most serious violent disorder incidents in the Republic in the modern era. But it seems the costly – and embarrassing – lessons of two years ago have been learned.
While a Garda van was burned out at Citywest, this was a public-order operation that saw the more than 300 gardaí present exert their dominance, at will, over up to 1,000 people, which included some described as "violent thugs".
The large protest group was afforded time by the Garda to become tired over a period of about an hour and a half, during which time backup policing resources were mustered and arrived.
Once that fatigue had set in among the crowd, and the rioters' supply of missiles and fireworks was exhausted, gardaí made their move.
That big formation (dogs, horses, water canon, Gardaí on horseback, vehicles) led by public-order gardaí on foot armed with riot shields and pepper spray – simply pressed and chased the crowd down Garter Lane and away from the IPAS centre campus. The moment the gardaí decided to move, the crowd was under their control and quickly dispersed.
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 22, 2025, 05:18:36 PMThe same old argument.
"The quinn family are being exploited"
"The raped child is being exploited"
Its a real doozy for Shinners.
Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.
Have you done any charity work in the "global south" ?
Another trolling post that doesn't address the substance. The fact you have taken umbrage at a consistent application of a moral stance is telling. An admission that you are a hypocrite is some own goal for you.
Exploiting victims in an insincere matter to pedal racist incitement or score political points is crass behaviour. You have done nothing to contend that other than launch into a tirade about "shinners" and condescending banal jibes and inaccuracies.
Smear is a weapon you use.
You think that victims are fair game to be exploited as pawns to incite racial hatred and slinging political mud. That's the only thing I can take for your hostility and repeated lies and misrepresentations.
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 22, 2025, 05:18:36 PMThe same old argument.
"The quinn family are being exploited"
"The raped child is being exploited"
Its a real doozy for Shinners.
Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.
Have you done any charity work in the "global south" ?
Anyone with a brain can condemn the sc**bag who attacked that young girl, the idiots who are rioting and the system who let the girl down.
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 22, 2025, 05:18:36 PMIts a real doozy for Shinners.
Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.
1. Are you seriously suggesting that if you are against violent far right rioters, you must then be a supporter of child rapists?
2. I do agree though that they are caught alright. Caught between standing up to the racists and standing with them and of late, they seem to be more concerned with standing with them. Mary Lou was quick out of the blocks on twitter defending the "deep community anger" but as of now, she has not posted a single tweet condeming the racist scumbags who who have been rioting for the last two nights. It's in a constituency with two SF TDs, and like Mary Lou, both have (rightly) tweeted their anger at the attack on the child, but shamefully, neither has tweeted a word about the riots. They are running scared of far right racists instead of taking the natural, historic republican position of standing firmly against them. Just another reason I've lost faith in them over the last year or two.
Quote from: Snapchap on October 23, 2025, 09:41:55 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on October 22, 2025, 05:18:36 PMIts a real doozy for Shinners.
Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.
1. Are you seriously suggesting that if you are against violent far right rioters, you must then be a supporter of child rapists?
2. I do agree though that they are caught alright. Caught between standing up to the racists and standing with them and of late, they seem to be more concerned with standing with them. Mary Lou was quick out of the blocks on twitter defending the "deep community anger" but as of now, she has not posted a single tweet condeming the racist scumbags who who have been rioting for the last two nights. It's in a constituency with two SF TDs, and like Mary Lou, both have (rightly) tweeted their anger at the attack on the child, but shamefully, neither has tweeted a word about the riots. They are running scared of far right racists instead of taking the natural, historic republican position of standing firmly against them. Just another reason I've lost faith in them over the last year or two.
She's absolutely right to defend deep community anger. There'd be something wrong if the community wasn't angry at whats happened. But you're right she needs to condemn the far right idiots too.
Not just the idiot ones but the dangerous ones manipulating them too.
SF's manifesto last year sounded like the fkn "National Party" on refugees/immigration.
A lot of the rioters would probably be SF voters: that's their natural constituency. Honestly, have met a lot of people who think Sinn Fein is an 'Ireland First' nationalist party, and against mass immigration. They're shocked to find out it basically stands with antifa. But, yes - SF is caught trying to ride two horses at the same time. Again.
What is it with some Poles?
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/1023/1540090-shaykh-dr-umar-al-qadri/
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 23, 2025, 11:19:29 AMA lot of the rioters would probably be SF voters: that's their natural constituency. Honestly, have met a lot of people who think Sinn Fein is an 'Ireland First' nationalist party, and against mass immigration. They're shocked to find out it basically stands with antifa. But, yes - SF is caught trying to ride two horses at the same time. Again.
Their problem is that it's impossible with social media to have a balanced view.
They can't criticise the immigration policy without being labelled far right or can't say immigrants contribute positively without being labelled far left globalists.
The problem is that with the vocal extremes on both sides, if your anyway in the middle it can seem that your trying to ride two horses at once. When the case might be you believe there's valid elements to both sides rather than a right and wrong side.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on October 23, 2025, 11:53:05 AMThe problem is that with the vocal extremes on both sides, if your anyway in the middle it can seem that your trying to ride two horses at once. When the case might be you believe there's valid elements to both sides rather than a right and wrong side.
100%. You should be allowed to say idiots setting things on fire outside the Citywest are wrong and also say that a system that allowed that sc**bag to attack that child is also wrong, without being accused of taking a side.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 23, 2025, 11:11:52 AMNot just the idiot ones but the dangerous ones manipulating them too.
SF's manifesto last year sounded like the fkn "National Party" on refugees/immigration.
Once again you are lowering the tone with your distorted, dishonest one eyed commentary. You are not outraged by SF's immigration policy. You are pretending to care about them to have a go at political opponents. In this case you don't even have a basis.
I'm sure we will see some heavy criticism from you on the FF justice minister offering immigrants money to leave or the FG MEPs who voted to drown immigrants in the Mediterranean. Would you refer to both those instances as being reminiscent of the National Party?
No, as you use the smear tactics of the far right about issues you actually don't care about.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 23, 2025, 11:55:00 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on October 23, 2025, 11:53:05 AMThe problem is that with the vocal extremes on both sides, if your anyway in the middle it can seem that your trying to ride two horses at once. When the case might be you believe there's valid elements to both sides rather than a right and wrong side.
100%. You should be allowed to say idiots setting things on fire outside the Citywest are wrong and also say that a system that allowed that sc**bag to attack that child is also wrong, without being accused of taking a side.
Any normal human will condemn rioting or sexually assaulting a child.
And will also be "concerned" if what was reported is true - that the individual arrested/charged with the assault was
1- refused asylum some years ago
2 - served with a deportation order some years ago but remained illegally while continuing to be put up in State or State paid for accomodation.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 23, 2025, 09:50:41 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 23, 2025, 09:41:55 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on October 22, 2025, 05:18:36 PMIts a real doozy for Shinners.
Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.
1. Are you seriously suggesting that if you are against violent far right rioters, you must then be a supporter of child rapists?
2. I do agree though that they are caught alright. Caught between standing up to the racists and standing with them and of late, they seem to be more concerned with standing with them. Mary Lou was quick out of the blocks on twitter defending the "deep community anger" but as of now, she has not posted a single tweet condeming the racist scumbags who who have been rioting for the last two nights. It's in a constituency with two SF TDs, and like Mary Lou, both have (rightly) tweeted their anger at the attack on the child, but shamefully, neither has tweeted a word about the riots. They are running scared of far right racists instead of taking the natural, historic republican position of standing firmly against them. Just another reason I've lost faith in them over the last year or two.
She's absolutely right to defend deep community anger. There'd be something wrong if the community wasn't angry at whats happened. But you're right she needs to condemn the far right idiots too.
I agree but i the community, or aspects of it, are only angry when the attacker is an FN then you need to ask what the real cause of their anger is
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 23, 2025, 02:04:42 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 23, 2025, 09:50:41 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 23, 2025, 09:41:55 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on October 22, 2025, 05:18:36 PMIts a real doozy for Shinners.
Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.
1. Are you seriously suggesting that if you are against violent far right rioters, you must then be a supporter of child rapists?
2. I do agree though that they are caught alright. Caught between standing up to the racists and standing with them and of late, they seem to be more concerned with standing with them. Mary Lou was quick out of the blocks on twitter defending the "deep community anger" but as of now, she has not posted a single tweet condeming the racist scumbags who who have been rioting for the last two nights. It's in a constituency with two SF TDs, and like Mary Lou, both have (rightly) tweeted their anger at the attack on the child, but shamefully, neither has tweeted a word about the riots. They are running scared of far right racists instead of taking the natural, historic republican position of standing firmly against them. Just another reason I've lost faith in them over the last year or two.
She's absolutely right to defend deep community anger. There'd be something wrong if the community wasn't angry at whats happened. But you're right she needs to condemn the far right idiots too.
I agree but i the community, or aspects of it, are only angry when the attacker is an FN then you need to ask what the real cause of their anger is
Ah in fairness theres a big difference if the attacker is in the country legally or if he shouldn't have been here in the first place. But 100% theres an element of racism with a lot of the protestors no doubt.
Just like an English nationalistic party (Reform) have killed off Tories and Labour mainly on the one issue of migration and protecting borders, an Irish nationalist party will kill off Fianna Fail/Fine Gael on the same issue. Sinn Fein were riding high in the polls before the previous election (they looked absolute certs) till Mary Lou McDonald was suddenly seen as Mary Lou Muhammed by the Ireland First/Ireland is Full crew who up to then were mostly flocking to SF. There doesn't seem to a right wing nationalistic party like Reform that will emerge (and thank god btw) as they are led by a crowd of goons who are making SpoiltheVote vidoes for TikTok and X, whereas SF are a polished political unit, but still a nationalist party that claims to be left, but plenty of right wing policies on climate and EU (they voted for fox hunting for jaysus sake). Expect them not to mess it up this time on the tide of rising anger against the Irish government on migration and housing, which are seen as the same. They will eventually start to drop the Palestine flags - indeed Mary Lou McDonald has already removed it from her X profile because you know you could lose votes if you are seen to be attracting more lads called Muhammad to Ireland.
The Shinners will lose more support than they'll gain if they are seen to be not supporting Palestine.
The political class /state have no answers and frankly don't want to think about the consequences of their deliberate policy of raping children.
Same old Ireland, new methods.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 23, 2025, 01:01:26 PMI'm sure we will see some heavy criticism from you on the FF justice minister offering immigrants money to leave or the FG MEPs who voted to drown immigrants in the Mediterranean. Would you refer to both those instances as being reminiscent of the National Party?
OK, what measures will SF take to get people to leave?
If a failed asylum seeker is ordered deported, should they not automatically be unenrolled from all benefits including accommodation?
This entire process is a shambles
Some mixture of outsiders and scumbags living in almost free houses from the Taxpayer on income hand outs from the Taxpayer and of course legal aid paid by the taxpayer.
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/1023/1540250-citywest-district-court/
As much as nobody likes to say it, they need look at a proper immigration process. Australia have it nailed down although probably heavy handed. But been in the EU it's going with what all countries say. Funny UK left based on immigration issues and now it's worse than ever!
Quote from: whitey on October 23, 2025, 06:30:38 PMIf a failed asylum seeker is ordered deported, should they not automatically be unenrolled from all benefits including accommodation?
This entire process is a shambles
How would you propose to locate them for deportation after you've fucked them onto the streets?
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 06:27:43 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 23, 2025, 01:01:26 PMI'm sure we will see some heavy criticism from you on the FF justice minister offering immigrants money to leave or the FG MEPs who voted to drown immigrants in the Mediterranean. Would you refer to both those instances as being reminiscent of the National Party?
OK, what measures will SF take to get people to leave?
The point I was making was only to highlight the insincere hypocrisy posted by RossFan. He doesn't seem to mind when FF and FG make start dabbling in far right rhetoric and policies but pretends to be outraged when he makes a risible attempt at making the same allegation v SF.
Some of you guys are utterly obsessed with your hatred of a political party than you are unable to speak either objectively or honestly.
Quote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 06:38:46 PMQuote from: whitey on October 23, 2025, 06:30:38 PMIf a failed asylum seeker is ordered deported, should they not automatically be unenrolled from all benefits including accommodation?
This entire process is a shambles
How would you propose to locate them for deportation after you've fucked them onto the streets?
Simple-no entry into an IPAs Center without a valid ID. If he attempts to enter-arrest him on the spot
All benefits cut off end of day after court appearance
These scammers wouldn't be long self deporting
Quote from: whitey on October 23, 2025, 07:56:00 PMQuote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 06:38:46 PMQuote from: whitey on October 23, 2025, 06:30:38 PMIf a failed asylum seeker is ordered deported, should they not automatically be unenrolled from all benefits including accommodation?
This entire process is a shambles
How would you propose to locate them for deportation after you've fucked them onto the streets?
First-I'd deport him directly from the courthouse upon the failure of his taxpayer funded and fraudulent asylum request
Secind-no entry into an IPAs Center without a valid ID. If he attempts to enter-arrest him on the spot
All benefits cut off end of day after court appearance
These scammers wouldn't be long self deporting
Oh dear.
Is "self-deportation" a common phenomenon in the US?
Quote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 06:38:46 PMQuote from: whitey on October 23, 2025, 06:30:38 PMIf a failed asylum seeker is ordered deported, should they not automatically be unenrolled from all benefits including accommodation?
This entire process is a shambles
How would you propose to locate them for deportation after you've fucked them onto the streets?
Surely they should be deported immediately? How long does it take?
The state has absolutely no intention of deporting anyone.
The irish government has been quite explicit about growing the population rapidly via migration.
Larger population = more good and happy times for all
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 23, 2025, 08:01:02 PMQuote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 06:38:46 PMQuote from: whitey on October 23, 2025, 06:30:38 PMIf a failed asylum seeker is ordered deported, should they not automatically be unenrolled from all benefits including accommodation?
This entire process is a shambles
How would you propose to locate them for deportation after you've fucked them onto the streets?
Surely they should be deported immediately? How long does it take?
Yeah, sure once the judge signs the order the guards are there waiting to drive them right to the next Ryanair plane on the runway.
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 23, 2025, 08:04:01 PMThe state has absolutely no intention of deporting anyone.
The irish government has been quite explicit about growing the population rapidly via migration.
Larger population = more good and happy times for all
Terrible short-term thinking. Don't worry about what it'll be like in 30 years time - sure they'll be retired agin then. See the same in small rural primary schools around the place - grow the heck out of them to get more capitation, an extra teacher. Funny thing is, the native parents don't want that, either. White flight is a thing.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 23, 2025, 04:59:41 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on October 23, 2025, 02:04:42 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 23, 2025, 09:50:41 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 23, 2025, 09:41:55 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on October 22, 2025, 05:18:36 PMIts a real doozy for Shinners.
Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.
1. Are you seriously suggesting that if you are against violent far right rioters, you must then be a supporter of child rapists?
2. I do agree though that they are caught alright. Caught between standing up to the racists and standing with them and of late, they seem to be more concerned with standing with them. Mary Lou was quick out of the blocks on twitter defending the "deep community anger" but as of now, she has not posted a single tweet condeming the racist scumbags who who have been rioting for the last two nights. It's in a constituency with two SF TDs, and like Mary Lou, both have (rightly) tweeted their anger at the attack on the child, but shamefully, neither has tweeted a word about the riots. They are running scared of far right racists instead of taking the natural, historic republican position of standing firmly against them. Just another reason I've lost faith in them over the last year or two.
She's absolutely right to defend deep community anger. There'd be something wrong if the community wasn't angry at whats happened. But you're right she needs to condemn the far right idiots too.
I agree but i the community, or aspects of it, are only angry when the attacker is an FN then you need to ask what the real cause of their anger is
Ah in fairness theres a big difference if the attacker is in the country legally or if he shouldn't have been here in the first place. But 100% theres an element of racism with a lot of the protestors no doubt.
Is there really? If people care about the victim, I mean really care about the victims, then the race or status of the attacker won't matter. The victim is a victim regardless
Quote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 07:58:11 PMOh dear.
Is "self-deportation" a common phenomenon in the US?
Yes,it is.
And we all know people in Ireland who fled the US when things were closing in. Sell things in an orderly manner and move the money out of the US, then leave.
Quote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 07:58:11 PMOh dear.
Is "self-deportation" a common phenomenon in the US?
Yes
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/08/14/secretary-noem-announces-16-million-illegal-aliens-have-left-us
Quote from: Rossfan on October 23, 2025, 06:31:47 PMSome mixture of outsiders and scumbags living in almost free houses from the Taxpayer on income hand outs from the Taxpayer and of course legal aid paid by the taxpayer.
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/1023/1540250-citywest-district-court/
Funny how there's no pictures of the rapist - a true outsider, living on handouts, and getting free legal aid.
Quote from: whitey on October 23, 2025, 09:59:43 PMQuote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 07:58:11 PMOh dear.
Is "self-deportation" a common phenomenon in the US?
Yes
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/08/14/secretary-noem-announces-16-million-illegal-aliens-have-left-us
a) that's definitely not true
b) What you were talking about initially was what happens after lads get a deportation other. Now you're talking about people leaving in response to an immigration crackdown. Those aren't the same thing
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 23, 2025, 08:50:11 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 23, 2025, 04:59:41 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on October 23, 2025, 02:04:42 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 23, 2025, 09:50:41 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 23, 2025, 09:41:55 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on October 22, 2025, 05:18:36 PMIts a real doozy for Shinners.
Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.
1. Are you seriously suggesting that if you are against violent far right rioters, you must then be a supporter of child rapists?
2. I do agree though that they are caught alright. Caught between standing up to the racists and standing with them and of late, they seem to be more concerned with standing with them. Mary Lou was quick out of the blocks on twitter defending the "deep community anger" but as of now, she has not posted a single tweet condeming the racist scumbags who who have been rioting for the last two nights. It's in a constituency with two SF TDs, and like Mary Lou, both have (rightly) tweeted their anger at the attack on the child, but shamefully, neither has tweeted a word about the riots. They are running scared of far right racists instead of taking the natural, historic republican position of standing firmly against them. Just another reason I've lost faith in them over the last year or two.
She's absolutely right to defend deep community anger. There'd be something wrong if the community wasn't angry at whats happened. But you're right she needs to condemn the far right idiots too.
I agree but i the community, or aspects of it, are only angry when the attacker is an FN then you need to ask what the real cause of their anger is
Ah in fairness theres a big difference if the attacker is in the country legally or if he shouldn't have been here in the first place. But 100% theres an element of racism with a lot of the protestors no doubt.
Is there really? If people care about the victim, I mean really care about the victims, then the race or status of the attacker won't matter. The victim is a victim regardless
This is the key to it. People exploiting victims for sinister motives is as low as it gets.
"as low as it gets"... its low but I can think of a lot of things that are way worst.
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 23, 2025, 08:04:01 PMThe state has absolutely no intention of deporting anyone.
The irish government has been quite explicit about growing the population rapidly via migration.
Larger population = more good and happy times for all
It's quite an achievement, but Dale, you may be the biggest dose this forum has known, and it's known quite a few down the years. Tyrone forum has capacity for 1 more, so all's not lost
Quote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 10:52:18 PMQuote from: whitey on October 23, 2025, 09:59:43 PMQuote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 07:58:11 PMOh dear.
Is "self-deportation" a common phenomenon in the US?
Yes
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/08/14/secretary-noem-announces-16-million-illegal-aliens-have-left-us
a) that's definitely not true
b) What you were talking about initially was what happens after lads get a deportation other. Now you're talking about people leaving in response to an immigration crackdown. Those aren't the same thing
Read your question and read my answer to your question
Will the Gardai need to put a cordon around former referee Tommy Howard's house?
The 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepool as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
Wasn't there 50,000-80,000 at water charge protests...
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepool as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
How do you know?
There was no violent disorder at the water charges protests.
The crossover of water charges protests is probably similar to the pro Palestine supporters who peacefully campaign in Dublin on a regular basis.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 09:51:21 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepool as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
How do you know?
There was no violent disorder at the water charges protests.
The crossover of water charges protests is probably similar to the pro Palestine supporters who peacefully campaign in Dublin on a regular basis.
Spot on.
Why would you want to pay for water anyway.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 09:51:21 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepool as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
How do you know?
There was no violent disorder at the water charges protests.
Yes, there was.
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepoojl as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
This is nuts. Far right is authoritarian. Far left is socialist.
Quote from: seafoid on October 24, 2025, 10:48:35 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepoojl as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
This is nuts. Far right is authoritarian. Far left is socialist.
Far left can be as authoritarian as far right. Don't make me list examples.
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 24, 2025, 10:51:52 AMQuote from: seafoid on October 24, 2025, 10:48:35 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepoojl as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
This is nuts. Far right is authoritarian. Far left is socialist.
Far left can be as authoritarian as far right. Don't make me list examples.
Horseshoe theory happens all the time.
Both extremes like Putin's Russia for example.
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:44:28 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 09:51:21 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepool as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
How do you know?
There was no violent disorder at the water charges protests.
Yes, there was.
Another baseless smear.
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:53:37 AMQuote from: RedHand88 on October 24, 2025, 10:51:52 AMQuote from: seafoid on October 24, 2025, 10:48:35 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepoojl as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
This is nuts. Far right is authoritarian. Far left is socialist.
Far left can be as authoritarian as far right. Don't make me list examples.
Horseshoe theory happens all the time.
Both extremes like Putin's Russia for example.
Putin's Russia is right wing.
Filth still at it
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2025/1024/1540338-dublin-attack/
Quote from: Rossfan on October 24, 2025, 01:44:18 PMFilth still at it
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2025/1024/1540338-dublin-attack/
You must be one of the weirdos who profits from this scam!
Same names always crop up but always let the gobsh1tes get arrested
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2025/1024/1540424-from-outrage-to-unrest-how-the-clashes-in-citywest-unfolded/
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 12:54:39 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:44:28 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 09:51:21 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepool as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
How do you know?
There was no violent disorder at the water charges protests.
Yes, there was.
Another baseless smear.
QuoteWater bottles and other missiles were thrown at gardaí on Kildare Street as protesters attempted to break through a barrier, with uniformed gardai seeking to reinforce it.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-20301892.html
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 12:55:25 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:53:37 AMQuote from: RedHand88 on October 24, 2025, 10:51:52 AMQuote from: seafoid on October 24, 2025, 10:48:35 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepoojl as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
This is nuts. Far right is authoritarian. Far left is socialist.
Far left can be as authoritarian as far right. Don't make me list examples.
Horseshoe theory happens all the time.
Both extremes like Putin's Russia for example.
Putin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 12:55:25 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:53:37 AMQuote from: RedHand88 on October 24, 2025, 10:51:52 AMQuote from: seafoid on October 24, 2025, 10:48:35 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepoojl as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
This is nuts. Far right is authoritarian. Far left is socialist.
Far left can be as authoritarian as far right. Don't make me list examples.
Horseshoe theory happens all the time.
Both extremes like Putin's Russia for example.
Putin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.
And he would know.
As for what Russia used to be. I remember explaining to a Ukrainian about the hard left nostalgia for the Soviet Union. They simply replied, 'I wish they could have lived it'.
Nostalgia for someone else's miserable experience. That's your tankie for you.
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:14 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 12:54:39 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:44:28 AMQuote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 09:51:21 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepool as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.
Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.
How do you know?
There was no violent disorder at the water charges protests.
Yes, there was.
Another baseless smear.
QuoteWater bottles and other missiles were thrown at gardaí on Kildare Street as protesters attempted to break through a barrier, with uniformed gardai seeking to reinforce it.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-20301892.html
Throwing water bottles is the worst you can come up with across multiple rallies? Any assaults? Any police vehicles set on fire? Any people hospitalized?
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.
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A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMIt is, but the hard left are fan boys.
The people you call fan boys actively criticise and condemn Russia and Putin, they just also happen to condemn the right wing regimes in West who played a role in creating the environment that led to the invasion.
You trying to smear people with positions they don't hold is fairly desperate. The left don't support Putin, they criticize and condemn him largely. Conflating criticism of the West, their military industrial complex, expanding borders and meddling in countries with democratically elected governments with supporting Putin or Russia is without foundation and it is a smear.
Perhaps we should rename this thread to "Keep saying smear over and over again until nobody wants to engage anymore"?
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 05:16:45 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMIt is, but the hard left are fan boys.
The people you call fan boys actively criticise and condemn Russia and Putin, they just also happen to condemn the right wing regimes in West who played a role in creating the environment that led to the invasion.
You trying to smear people with positions they don't hold is fairly desperate. The left don't support Putin, they criticize and condemn him largely. Conflating criticism of the West, their military industrial complex, expanding borders and meddling in countries with democratically elected governments with supporting Putin or Russia is without foundation and it is a smear.
(https://media.tenor.com/wLRglEAjRyMAAAAM/%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD-putin.gif)
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 05:16:45 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMIt is, but the hard left are fan boys.
The people you call fan boys actively criticise and condemn Russia and Putin, they just also happen to condemn the right wing regimes in West who played a role in creating the environment that led to the invasion.
You trying to smear people with positions they don't hold is fairly desperate. The left don't support Putin, they criticize and condemn him largely. Conflating criticism of the West, their military industrial complex, expanding borders and meddling in countries with democratically elected governments with supporting Putin or Russia is without foundation and it is a smear.
What?
Tankie talking points 101
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.
A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.
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Where are you getting this from?
Present day Russia is very nationalist.
Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?
AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 06:29:49 PMTankie talking points 101
It's all bullshit and he can't provide evidence for a single one of his assertions.
Or provide a counter argument to anyone who dismantles his assertions.
Just makes the same claims over and over.
Same old numbskull. Minus the YouTube vids though.
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 06:34:39 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.
A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.
Where are you getting this from?
Present day Russia is very nationalist.
Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?
AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.
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Know a good few from the RAC music scene, and they'd all love Ukraine. Have Ukrainian banners at the gigs, etc.
Quote from: thewobbler on October 24, 2025, 06:08:53 PMPerhaps we should rename this thread to "Keep saying smear over and over again until nobody wants to engage anymore"?
:D
https://m.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/mary-lou-mcdonald-reacts-as-catherine-connolly-supporters-allegedly-assaulted-in-dublin/a2065063052.html?fbclid=IwZnRzaANopbVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHvOn7NdMm_qf4fnVS4cF5eDDf4D-kR0a0uPK3_PBIfHrPkzi19eAfhw_HOK6_aem_Iwcfc7qRRzlKLI6De0tWOA#vmr2l022z4r2ks338onanrrffjoyfa0mh
Looking forward to all the heroes worried about protecting women and children rioting over this one.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 07:33:56 PMhttps://m.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/mary-lou-mcdonald-reacts-as-catherine-connolly-supporters-allegedly-assaulted-in-dublin/a2065063052.html?fbclid=IwZnRzaANopbVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHvOn7NdMm_qf4fnVS4cF5eDDf4D-kR0a0uPK3_PBIfHrPkzi19eAfhw_HOK6_aem_Iwcfc7qRRzlKLI6De0tWOA#vmr2l022z4r2ks338onanrrffjoyfa0mh
Looking forward to all the heroes worried about protecting women and children rioting over this one.
https://x.com/dubslife1/status/1981747885931676005?t=zKrfJ5DJ8gXFRU6Kkl5OMw&s=19
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 24, 2025, 07:36:41 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 07:33:56 PMhttps://m.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/mary-lou-mcdonald-reacts-as-catherine-connolly-supporters-allegedly-assaulted-in-dublin/a2065063052.html?fbclid=IwZnRzaANopbVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHvOn7NdMm_qf4fnVS4cF5eDDf4D-kR0a0uPK3_PBIfHrPkzi19eAfhw_HOK6_aem_Iwcfc7qRRzlKLI6De0tWOA#vmr2l022z4r2ks338onanrrffjoyfa0mh
Looking forward to all the heroes worried about protecting women and children rioting over this one.
https://x.com/dubslife1/status/1981747885931676005?t=zKrfJ5DJ8gXFRU6Kkl5OMw&s=19
Bring back the Provos...
What a sc**bag. Imagine threatening women like that.
I mean here is another example from today - how many more will it take ? Arrived on a small boat.
Asylum seeker guilty of hotel worker's savage murder
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgkpyr1ep4o.amp
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 24, 2025, 07:36:41 PMhttps://x.com/dubslife1/status/1981747885931676005?t=zKrfJ5DJ8gXFRU6Kkl5OMw&s=19
Needs his head caved in.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 07:42:04 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 24, 2025, 07:36:41 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 07:33:56 PMhttps://m.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/mary-lou-mcdonald-reacts-as-catherine-connolly-supporters-allegedly-assaulted-in-dublin/a2065063052.html?fbclid=IwZnRzaANopbVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHvOn7NdMm_qf4fnVS4cF5eDDf4D-kR0a0uPK3_PBIfHrPkzi19eAfhw_HOK6_aem_Iwcfc7qRRzlKLI6De0tWOA#vmr2l022z4r2ks338onanrrffjoyfa0mh
Looking forward to all the heroes worried about protecting women and children rioting over this one.
https://x.com/dubslife1/status/1981747885931676005?t=zKrfJ5DJ8gXFRU6Kkl5OMw&s=19
Bring back the Provos...
What a sc**bag. Imagine threatening women like that.
A bit different to rape, now. Of a 10 year old.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 07:17:08 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 06:34:39 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.
A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.
Where are you getting this from?
Present day Russia is very nationalist.
Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?
AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.
Know a good few from the RAC music scene, and they'd all love Ukraine. Have Ukrainian banners at the gigs, etc.
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So you say you know a few from the 1980s White Power Rock against Communism scene who support Ukraine, versus the millions who inhabit every scummy hard right racist group from all over Europe who support Russia and most probably fully funded by Russia.
Quote from: Main Street on October 24, 2025, 08:08:26 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 07:17:08 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 06:34:39 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.
A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.
Where are you getting this from?
Present day Russia is very nationalist.
Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?
AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.
Know a good few from the RAC music scene, and they'd all love Ukraine. Have Ukrainian banners at the gigs, etc.
So you say you know a few from the 1980s White Power Rock against Communism scene who support Ukraine, versus the millions who inhabit every scummy hard right racist group from all over Europe who support Russia.
[/quote]
Azov Battalion uses right wing iconography, and there was a definite element of a hard right in Ukrainian nationalist circles. Similarly, many nationalist groups in Eastern Europe would stand with Ukraine, a lot of American mercenaries fighting with Ukraine would have been right-wing, Meloni in Italy is certainly more for Ukraine than for Russia, and I would say the same for many right groups in Italy. Sure, weren't the Russian ultra-right groups fighting for Ukraine. Or so we were told...
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 24, 2025, 06:25:38 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 05:16:45 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMIt is, but the hard left are fan boys.
The people you call fan boys actively criticise and condemn Russia and Putin, they just also happen to condemn the right wing regimes in West who played a role in creating the environment that led to the invasion.
You trying to smear people with positions they don't hold is fairly desperate. The left don't support Putin, they criticize and condemn him largely. Conflating criticism of the West, their military industrial complex, expanding borders and meddling in countries with democratically elected governments with supporting Putin or Russia is without foundation and it is a smear.
What?
As I said. What point do you have difficulty understanding?
Quote from: gallsman on October 24, 2025, 08:03:52 PMQuote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 24, 2025, 07:36:41 PMhttps://x.com/dubslife1/status/1981747885931676005?t=zKrfJ5DJ8gXFRU6Kkl5OMw&s=19
Needs his head caved in.
Standard member of the 2% fascist scum.
People's heads are away with that far right racist transphobic hystericia sweeping the US and Britain... Trump/McGregor/Farage/Robinson...
Yer man is so full of rage and hatred but no coherent argument at all.
**** needs a hammering on what he said in relation to the child alone. Problem is u give these pricks a bad hammering u up in court instead this w**k! Is there no face picture of this tosser to let Facebook do its thing?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 24, 2025, 11:47:38 PM**** needs a hammering on what he said in relation to the child alone. Problem is u give these pricks a bad hammering u up in court instead this w**k! Is there no face picture of this tosser to let Facebook do its thing?
Pictured and named on Facebook, doubt he has a job to worry about losing
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 08:27:01 PMQuote from: Main Street on October 24, 2025, 08:08:26 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 07:17:08 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 06:34:39 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.
A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.
Where are you getting this from?
Present day Russia is very nationalist.
Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?
AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.
Know a good few from the RAC music scene, and they'd all love Ukraine. Have Ukrainian banners at the gigs, etc.
So you say you know a few from the 1980s White Power Rock against Communism scene who support Ukraine, versus the millions who inhabit every scummy hard right racist group from all over Europe who support Russia.
Azov Battalion uses right wing iconography, and there was a definite element of a hard right in Ukrainian nationalist circles. Similarly, many nationalist groups in Eastern Europe would stand with Ukraine, a lot of American mercenaries fighting with Ukraine would have been right-wing, Meloni in Italy is certainly more for Ukraine than for Russia, and I would say the same for many right groups in Italy. Sure, weren't the Russian ultra-right groups fighting for Ukraine. Or so we were told...
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You do deftly spin from one bogus Kremlin narrative towards an endless tissue of Kremlin spins.
Strange then that since the Kremlin back government were ousted in 2014 in what the Kremlin claimed was a fascist coup backed by the West, all the right wing partys' vote diminished to a fraction of 1%.
The Azov batillion has sorted itself out ages ago, is by far the most effective and disciplined fighting unit in the AFU and of course is the continued target of Kremlin toxic discharge.
The definition of what Russia calls a Nazi today and since Operation Barbarossa was somebody who does not want to be 'Russified´, someone who wants to retain their ethnicity and reject Russia/Soviet Union.
Darth Putin
The "Irish" tankie. Looks at Ukraine. Sees its large, nuclear-armed eastern neighbor that has violent, imperialist, brutal history of conquest & cultural oppression against it & decides "No parallels here, those are the good guys in this".
Quote from: Main Street on October 25, 2025, 09:20:32 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 08:27:01 PMQuote from: Main Street on October 24, 2025, 08:08:26 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 07:17:08 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 06:34:39 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PMA lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.
Where are you getting this from?
Present day Russia is very nationalist.
Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?
AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.
Know a good few from the RAC music scene, and they'd all love Ukraine. Have Ukrainian banners at the gigs, etc.
So you say you know a few from the 1980s White Power Rock against Communism scene who support Ukraine, versus the millions who inhabit every scummy hard right racist group from all over Europe who support Russia.
Azov Battalion uses right wing iconography, and there was a definite element of a hard right in Ukrainian nationalist circles. Similarly, many nationalist groups in Eastern Europe would stand with Ukraine, a lot of American mercenaries fighting with Ukraine would have been right-wing, Meloni in Italy is certainly more for Ukraine than for Russia, and I would say the same for many right groups in Italy. Sure, weren't the Russian ultra-right groups fighting for Ukraine. Or so we were told...
You do deftly spin from one bogus Kremlin narrative towards an endless tissue of Kremlin spins.
Strange then that since the Kremlin back government were ousted in 2014 in what the Kremlin claimed was a fascist coup backed by the West, all the right wing partys' vote diminished to a fraction of 1%.
The Azov batillion has sorted itself out ages ago, is by far the most effective and disciplined fighting unit in the AFU and of course is the continued target of Kremlin toxic discharge.
The definition of what Russia calls a Nazi today and since Operation Barbarossa was somebody who does not want to be 'Russified´, someone who wants to retain their ethnicity and reject Russia/Soviet Union.
Darth Putin
The "Irish" tankie. Looks at Ukraine. Sees its large, nuclear-armed eastern neighbor that has violent, imperialist, brutal history of conquest & cultural oppression against it & decides "No parallels here, those are the good guys in this".
I agree; all this guff about de-nazification is ludicrous. And anyway, if you think I'm a tankie, you're very much mistaken.
Aontú getting rid of some fine specimens
https://m.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/aontu-fires-youth-leader-and-five-others-over-secret-racist-whatsapp-group/a221877434.html
Maria Steen fans no doubt. The person we NEEDED on the ballot to represent their views...
Lookit all those youth wings of parties are loaded with creeps but Aontú usually project their image better.
Steen/Iona/Aontú/Ganley (Bunker?) and all the other "disenfranchised" poor devils can stand in the Galway By election.
See how many votes they'll get then.
I dont think there's much appetite for returning to Catholic doctrines being State Law.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 26, 2025, 09:59:09 AMSteen/Iona/Aontú/Ganley (Bunker?) and all the other "disenfranchised" poor devils can stand in the Galway By election.
See how many votes they'll get then.
I dont think there's much appetite for returning to Catholic doctrines being State Law.
At least those can stand in that Election - they can be scrutinised and give their view.
Give a rounder view of society and its concerns.
People can see them for what they are and can make their own mind up.
This was sadly lacking in the Election gone by.
Bunreacht na hÉireann lays down how you get on the ballot paper i.e only elected representatives have nomination rights.
Dutch parties are leaving out the far right-Wilders- because he is chaotic, ahead of a general election
Quote from: Rossfan on October 26, 2025, 12:09:02 PMBunreacht na hÉireann lays down how you get on the ballot paper i.e only elected representatives have nomination rights.
I do think something needs looked at there. Harris blocking the nomination of anyone else by FG was poor.
Ironically HH might have benefitted from transfers if Steen had got to run.
(Assuming a higher turn out, valid poll and quota).
As you can't have every Tom,Dick and Maria on the ballot maybe add 50 individual Councillors to the criteria?
Any proposed change will have to go to the people.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 08:28:41 AMIronically HH might have benefitted from transfers if Steen had got to run.
(Assuming a higher turn out, valid poll and quota).
As you can't have every Tom,Dick and Maria on the ballot maybe add 50 individual Councillors to the criteria?
Any proposed change will have to go to the people.
Yeah maybe something like that, can't have a free for all but giving the likes of Steen an excuse to give off about democracy isn't helping anyone
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 28, 2025, 07:47:31 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 26, 2025, 12:09:02 PMBunreacht na hÉireann lays down how you get on the ballot paper i.e only elected representatives have nomination rights.
I do think something needs looked at there. Harris blocking the nomination of anyone else by FG was poor.
This isn't new though. Parties have always done this. What seems to be different this time is the people pulling the strings have just found out.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 28, 2025, 11:38:18 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 28, 2025, 07:47:31 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 26, 2025, 12:09:02 PMBunreacht na hÉireann lays down how you get on the ballot paper i.e only elected representatives have nomination rights.
I do think something needs looked at there. Harris blocking the nomination of anyone else by FG was poor.
This isn't new though. Parties have always done this. What seems to be different this time is the people pulling the strings have just found out.
In the last presidential election cycle councils nominated at least 4 independent candidates
I'm assuming the number was similar 14 years ago
Councils NOT NOMINATING independent is new
Peter Casey was quite outspoken in the last election and got 342k first pref votes finishing second. With nearly a quarter of the first pref votes I suppose this was a warning to the major parties of the dangers of letting a rogue in.
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 28, 2025, 06:10:28 PMPeter Casey was quite outspoken in the last election and got 342k first pref votes finishing second. With nearly a quarter of the first pref votes I suppose this was a warning to the major parties of the dangers of letting a rogue in.
Casey was the ultimate one trick pony. With the direction of travel, they'll be plenty 'rogues' to vote for in the years to come
Unbelievable that traditional Christian values is now considered Far Right by the brainwashed. Maria Steen is hardly Tommy Robinson FFS.
What are "Christian values"?
Only 1 great commandment -Love one another.
Not many of those who loudly proclaim themselves Christian follow that😉
Quote from: OakleafCounty on October 28, 2025, 08:49:22 PMUnbelievable that traditional Christian values is now considered Far Right by the brainwashed. Maria Steen is hardly Tommy Robinson FFS.
Yeah, I don't get the anti-Christian rhetoric.
Anyone who basically shows concerns with the direction of the directors is automatically labelled Far Right.
There are a lot of people who would want to open their eyes.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 09:07:39 PMWhat are "Christian values"?
Only 1 great commandment -Love one another.
Not many of those who loudly proclaim themselves Christian follow that😉
And here you have Rossfan - one who follows the Directions.....
You can pretty much guarantee those in the seats of power currently spreading and fostering hate and division will have 'christian' as part of their description / makeup.. I'll say it again, the ultimate in gaslighting
Quote from: JoG2 on October 28, 2025, 09:19:32 PMYou can pretty much guarantee those in the seats of power currently spreading and fostering hate and division will have 'christian' as part of their description / makeup.. I'll say it again, the ultimate in gaslighting
To many on here simply asking the government to enforce their own immigration laws is considered fostering hate and division
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 28, 2025, 09:12:19 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 09:07:39 PMWhat are "Christian values"?
Only 1 great commandment -Love one another.
Not many of those who loudly proclaim themselves Christian follow that😉
And here you have Rossfan - one who follows the Directions.....
I try to follow the great commandment (direction😉) of Jesus Christ.
Hard to do with some.....
Some poor fella in London walking his dog today murdered in broad daylight by an Afghan who arrived here in a lorry :-\
Quote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 09:29:07 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on October 28, 2025, 09:12:19 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 09:07:39 PMWhat are "Christian values"?
Only 1 great commandment -Love one another.
Not many of those who loudly proclaim themselves Christian follow that😉
And here you have Rossfan - one who follows the Directions.....
I try to follow the great commandment (direction😉) of Jesus Christ.
Hard to do with some.....
You could practice what you preach. But, no - you are perhaps one of the most intolerant of opposing opinions here. And that's saying something.
English man died today who was allegedly assaulted by a Dublin man in Temple Bar a few months ago.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 09:29:07 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on October 28, 2025, 09:12:19 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 09:07:39 PMWhat are "Christian values"?
Only 1 great commandment -Love one another.
Not many of those who loudly proclaim themselves Christian follow that😉
And here you have Rossfan - one who follows the Directions.....
I try to follow the great commandment (direction😉) of Jesus Christ.
Hard to do with some.....
Good - we have one thing in common. And we more than likely have 99% agreement on most other things when it comes down to it. All these other issues are divisive and used to keep us fighting over minor discrepancies, while the big boys do what they want elsewhere. In truth we are all being played.
In the same way the Protestants and Catholics were played for years in the north. And still are today.
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 28, 2025, 10:01:06 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 09:29:07 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on October 28, 2025, 09:12:19 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 09:07:39 PMWhat are "Christian values"?
Only 1 great commandment -Love one another.
Not many of those who loudly proclaim themselves Christian follow that😉
And here you have Rossfan - one who follows the Directions.....
I try to follow the great commandment (direction😉) of Jesus Christ.
Hard to do with some.....
Good - we have one thing in common. And we more than likely have 99% agreement on most other things when it comes down to it. All these other issues are divisive and used to keep us fighting over minor discrepancies, while the big boys do what they want elsewhere. In truth we are all being played.
In the same way the Protestants and Catholics were played for years in the north. And still are today.
Amen to that FtB
With the amount of women being assaulted, domestic abuse, murdered, living in shelters I'm surprised that its happening with that many Christians about.. So forgive me if its a fleg (pun completely intended) to fly to suit a purpose..
Don't be confused or fall for the shite on social media all the time, the more of that shite you watch the more will pop up
Again whitey talks more shite, I don't know of anyone happy with the enforcement that can be used that isn't, but obviously it a racket, and too many people making money off the back of it. Held by European laws ain't helping either and I can't see Ireland leaving the EU, case in point the UK even when they left to stop the boats its actually increased them..
Laws need to come in that stop leaving loopholes for crafty legal teams to extend their wallet, sorry time with cases. They also need to employ more case workers to do the work, properly.
If you are going to protest then you are not protesting in the right areas, protest at the ones lining their pockets, the multiple homeowners, the politicians that you vote in, protest at yourself for voting them in also.. Continuing to do the same thing and you get the same results, lunacy.
But be rest assured, Ireland has always had an underbelly of racism, it was just that there was other people to kill, blow up, jail, terrorise..
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2025, 11:15:41 PMWith the amount of women being assaulted, domestic abuse, murdered, living in shelters I'm surprised that its happening with that many Christians about.. So forgive me if its a fleg (pun completely intended) to fly to suit a purpose..
Don't be confused or fall for the shite on social media all the time, the more of that shite you watch the more will pop up
Again whitey talks more shite, I don't know of anyone happy with the enforcement that can be used that isn't, but obviously it a racket, and too many people making money off the back of it. Held by European laws ain't helping either and I can't see Ireland leaving the EU, case in point the UK even when they left to stop the boats its actually increased them..
Laws need to come in that stop leaving loopholes for crafty legal teams to extend their wallet, sorry time with cases. They also need to employ more case workers to do the work, properly.
If you are going to protest then you are not protesting in the right areas, protest at the ones lining their pockets, the multiple homeowners, the politicians that you vote in, protest at yourself for voting them in also.. Continuing to do the same thing and you get the same results, lunacy.
But be rest assured, Ireland has always had an underbelly of racism, it was just that there was other people to kill, blow up, jail, terrorise..
You have it there in one....
When you have a joke of a criminal justice system run by people profiting from scum then don't expect much change.
Lethal injection should be given to these types. They're not gonna reform, essentially a nonsense concept.
How many solicitors firms are kept in business because of the soft touch?
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/courts/belfast-trio-with-470-convictions-between-them-jailed-for-series-of-burglaries/1181588794.html
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 28, 2025, 09:12:19 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 09:07:39 PMWhat are "Christian values"?
Only 1 great commandment -Love one another.
Not many of those who loudly proclaim themselves Christian follow that😉
And here you have Rossfan - one who follows the Directions.....
Not answering his/her question though are you?
Another asylum seeker who arrived illegally from Somalia (and was known to police in four European countries).
Another random indiscriminate murder.
Jailed today for a minimum of 25 years.
Asylum seeker who murdered man inside bank jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyld1p0lw1o.amp
Quote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 04:55:49 PMAnother asylum seeker who arrived illegally from Somalia (and was known to police in four European countries).
Another random indiscriminate murder.
Jailed today for a minimum of 25 years.
Asylum seeker who murdered man inside bank jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyld1p0lw1o.amp
Are you putting up all murders or selective?
In the year ending March 2024, there were approximately 570 homicides recorded in England and Wales, along with 52 in Scotland and 18 in Northern Ireland, bringing the total for the UK to around 640. This represents a decrease from previous years, though figures can fluctuate annually
81% white Christian fighting age men too
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 29, 2025, 10:56:25 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on October 28, 2025, 09:12:19 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 28, 2025, 09:07:39 PMWhat are "Christian values"?
Only 1 great commandment -Love one another.
Not many of those who loudly proclaim themselves Christian follow that😉
And here you have Rossfan - one who follows the Directions.....
Not answering his/her question though are you?
That's a good question and I'm sure like everyone I'm getting directed also.
There are probably plenty of things I don't see or are blind to or led into.
It's all theatre. You look at Trumps latest visit to Isra€l and you see what we are fed.
I'm sure in the future I'll look back and think - I was taken in there....
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:44:22 PMQuote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 04:55:49 PMAnother asylum seeker who arrived illegally from Somalia (and was known to police in four European countries).
Another random indiscriminate murder.
Jailed today for a minimum of 25 years.
Asylum seeker who murdered man inside bank jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyld1p0lw1o.amp
Are you putting up all murders or selective?
All murders by people who shouldn't be here ? I could try
Two sentenced to life in last three days and one committed a murder yesterday so I would be busy
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:48:19 PMIn the year ending March 2024, there were approximately 570 homicides recorded in England and Wales, along with 52 in Scotland and 18 in Northern Ireland, bringing the total for the UK to around 640. This represents a decrease from previous years, though figures can fluctuate annually
81% white Christian fighting age men too
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:44:22 PMQuote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 04:55:49 PMAnother asylum seeker who arrived illegally from Somalia (and was known to police in four European countries).
Another random indiscriminate murder.
Jailed today for a minimum of 25 years.
Asylum seeker who murdered man inside bank jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyld1p0lw1o.amp
Are you putting up all murders or selective?
Of course the psychology is White lads killing white would happen anyway. Black killing white is extra killings that would not happen is if Black was not here.
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 29, 2025, 06:00:51 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:48:19 PMIn the year ending March 2024, there were approximately 570 homicides recorded in England and Wales, along with 52 in Scotland and 18 in Northern Ireland, bringing the total for the UK to around 640. This represents a decrease from previous years, though figures can fluctuate annually
81% white Christian fighting age men too
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:44:22 PMQuote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 04:55:49 PMAnother asylum seeker who arrived illegally from Somalia (and was known to police in four European countries).
Another random indiscriminate murder.
Jailed today for a minimum of 25 years.
Asylum seeker who murdered man inside bank jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyld1p0lw1o.amp
Are you putting up all murders or selective?
Of course the psychology is White lads killing white would happen anyway. Black killing white is extra killings that would not happen is if Black was not here.
Well if you are going to be accurate the link above the victim was not white. The colour of the victim hardly matters.
It's only going to get worse, that's for sure.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:48:19 PMIn the year ending March 2024, there were approximately 570 homicides recorded in England and Wales, along with 52 in Scotland and 18 in Northern Ireland, bringing the total for the UK to around 640. This represents a decrease from previous years, though figures can fluctuate annually
81% white Christian fighting age men too
What are you referring to here? I actually went to the bother of looking this up, and discovered blacks are over-represented as suspects in murder cases (FIVE times over-represented, no less), and whites are under-represented. Asians account for 10% of suspects, which is what you'd expect, given that roughly that proportion of the population in England and Wales is Asian. I admit these figures are for Eng. and Wales, not all the UK, but still and all, it is instructive.
Now, it'd be interesting to see figures for same in France, but since you're not allowed, we'll never know.
America and London also have some pretty eye-watering stats for crime and ethnicity.
Quote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 05:54:23 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:44:22 PMQuote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 04:55:49 PMAnother asylum seeker who arrived illegally from Somalia (and was known to police in four European countries).
Another random indiscriminate murder.
Jailed today for a minimum of 25 years.
Asylum seeker who murdered man inside bank jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyld1p0lw1o.amp
Are you putting up all murders or selective?
All murders by people who shouldn't be here ? I could try
Two sentenced to life in last three days and one committed a murder yesterday so I would be busy
You could, start with the 81% white fighting aged Christian's who shouldn't be here either if they are murderers.
Going by these percentages if we get rid of the white Christian's we'd be grand.
This was just England and Wales figures
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:19:50 PMQuote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 05:54:23 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:44:22 PMQuote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 04:55:49 PMAnother asylum seeker who arrived illegally from Somalia (and was known to police in four European countries).
Another random indiscriminate murder.
Jailed today for a minimum of 25 years.
Asylum seeker who murdered man inside bank jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyld1p0lw1o.amp
Are you putting up all murders or selective?
All murders by people who shouldn't be here ? I could try
Two sentenced to life in last three days and one committed a murder yesterday so I would be busy
You could, start with the 81% white fighting aged Christian's who shouldn't be here either if they are murderers.
Going by these percentages if we get rid of the white Christian's we'd be grand.
This was just England and Wales figures
Yeah, but whites are way under-represented as murder suspects for the period you quoted. And your 81% doesn't seem accurate, either.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 06:14:39 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:48:19 PMIn the year ending March 2024, there were approximately 570 homicides recorded in England and Wales, along with 52 in Scotland and 18 in Northern Ireland, bringing the total for the UK to around 640. This represents a decrease from previous years, though figures can fluctuate annually
81% white Christian fighting age men too
What are you referring to here? I actually went to the bother of looking this up, and discovered blacks are over-represented as suspects in murder cases (FIVE times over-represented, no less), and whites are under-represented. Asians account for 10% of suspects, which is what you'd expect, given that roughly that proportion of the population in England and Wales is Asian. I admit these figures are for Eng. and Wales, not all the UK, but still and all, it is instructive.
Now, it'd be interesting to see figures for same in France, but since you're not allowed, we'll never know.
America and London also have some pretty eye-watering stats for crime and ethnicity.
It doesn't take a genius to work out that blacks in the UK are from poorer backgrounds thus leading to crime, victimised by police with stop and searches ( we had them here)
But again that doesn't suit that it's just asylum seekers causing all the murders and rapes and domestic violence and pedos
I suppose people see what they want
Any murder is wrong and is to be dealt with by the police.
The uk raped and pillaged a lot of these counties during colonialism and up to the 60's in a lot of places.
So bringing in 'British citizens' to build the economy is on them.
There's a chart on gov.uk
So MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Quote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:31:31 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 06:14:39 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:48:19 PMIn the year ending March 2024, there were approximately 570 homicides recorded in England and Wales, along with 52 in Scotland and 18 in Northern Ireland, bringing the total for the UK to around 640. This represents a decrease from previous years, though figures can fluctuate annually
81% white Christian fighting age men too
What are you referring to here? I actually went to the bother of looking this up, and discovered blacks are over-represented as suspects in murder cases (FIVE times over-represented, no less), and whites are under-represented. Asians account for 10% of suspects, which is what you'd expect, given that roughly that proportion of the population in England and Wales is Asian. I admit these figures are for Eng. and Wales, not all the UK, but still and all, it is instructive.
Now, it'd be interesting to see figures for same in France, but since you're not allowed, we'll never know.
America and London also have some pretty eye-watering stats for crime and ethnicity.
It doesn't take a genius to work out that blacks in the UK are from poorer backgrounds thus leading to crime, victimised by police with stop and searches ( we had them here)
But again that doesn't suit that it's just asylum seekers causing all the murders and rapes and domestic violence and pedos
I suppose people see what they want
Any murder is wrong and is to be dealt with by the police.
The uk raped and pillaged a lot of these counties during colonialism and up to the 60's in a lot of places.
So bringing in 'British citizens' to build the economy is on them.
There's a chart on gov.uk
But we didn't - so why do have to go the same road? Besides, that logic is like saying "Oh well, my grandfather stole off your grandfather, so therefore you can rape my daughter". Bullshit.
Why are blacks always from poorer backgrounds, and not Asians?
Quote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:50:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
All murder is preventable.. just don't do it!
So my pain for losing a family member to murder would be more? WTF
I've more chance of a white male Christian of fighting age killing a member of my family than someone of a different colour
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:01:10 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:31:31 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 06:14:39 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:48:19 PMIn the year ending March 2024, there were approximately 570 homicides recorded in England and Wales, along with 52 in Scotland and 18 in Northern Ireland, bringing the total for the UK to around 640. This represents a decrease from previous years, though figures can fluctuate annually
81% white Christian fighting age men too
What are you referring to here? I actually went to the bother of looking this up, and discovered blacks are over-represented as suspects in murder cases (FIVE times over-represented, no less), and whites are under-represented. Asians account for 10% of suspects, which is what you'd expect, given that roughly that proportion of the population in England and Wales is Asian. I admit these figures are for Eng. and Wales, not all the UK, but still and all, it is instructive.
Now, it'd be interesting to see figures for same in France, but since you're not allowed, we'll never know.
America and London also have some pretty eye-watering stats for crime and ethnicity.
It doesn't take a genius to work out that blacks in the UK are from poorer backgrounds thus leading to crime, victimised by police with stop and searches ( we had them here)
But again that doesn't suit that it's just asylum seekers causing all the murders and rapes and domestic violence and pedos
I suppose people see what they want
Any murder is wrong and is to be dealt with by the police.
The uk raped and pillaged a lot of these counties during colonialism and up to the 60's in a lot of places.
So bringing in 'British citizens' to build the economy is on them.
There's a chart on gov.uk
But we didn't - so why do have to go the same road? Besides, that logic is like saying "Oh well, my grandfather stole off your grandfather, so therefore you can rape my daughter". Bullshit.
Why are blacks always from poorer backgrounds, and not Asians?
Go on, tell me why?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:16:11 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:50:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
All murder is preventable.. just don't do it!
So my pain for losing a family member to murder would be more? WTF
I've more chance of a white male Christian of fighting age killing a member of my family than someone of a different colour
Yes, but whites are still way under-represented in the stats for perpetrators, and blacks way over-represented.
Quote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 06:08:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on October 29, 2025, 06:00:51 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:48:19 PMIn the year ending March 2024, there were approximately 570 homicides recorded in England and Wales, along with 52 in Scotland and 18 in Northern Ireland, bringing the total for the UK to around 640. This represents a decrease from previous years, though figures can fluctuate annually
81% white Christian fighting age men too
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:44:22 PMQuote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 04:55:49 PMAnother asylum seeker who arrived illegally from Somalia (and was known to police in four European countries).
Another random indiscriminate murder.
Jailed today for a minimum of 25 years.
Asylum seeker who murdered man inside bank jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyld1p0lw1o.amp
Are you putting up all murders or selective?
Of course the psychology is White lads killing white would happen anyway. Black killing white is extra killings that would not happen is if Black was not here.
Well if you are going to be accurate the link above the victim was not white. The colour of the victim hardly matters.
It's only going to get worse, that's for sure.
You're doing your bit, I'm sure this place isn't your only online rodeo
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:27:38 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:16:11 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:50:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
All murder is preventable.. just don't do it!
So my pain for losing a family member to murder would be more? WTF
I've more chance of a white male Christian of fighting age killing a member of my family than someone of a different colour
Yes, but whites are still way under-represented in the stats for perpetrators, and blacks way over-represented.
I'll go back to what I'd said earlier
Higher Crime in Deprived Areas: In London, 41% more crimes were recorded in the most income-deprived 10% of areas in 2024 compared to the least deprived 10%. Specific offences like violence, robbery, sexual offences, and drug/weapons offences were over two times more prevalent in these deprived areas.
Victimisation: People living in the most deprived neighbourhoods are significantly more likely to be victims of crime. 25% of people in the most deprived areas live in the 10% of neighbourhoods with the highest crime rates, compared to only 3.1% in the least deprived areas.
Economic deprivation: Lack of access to quality education, stable employment opportunities, and basic resources can lead some individuals to turn to crime as an alternative means for survival or to achieve desired ends.
Relative deprivation and inequality: The feeling of being economically disadvantaged compared to others can foster feelings of resentment and alienation, which may lead to criminal behaviour.
Social conditions: Disadvantaged neighbourhoods often have higher unemployment rates, less social support, and higher exposure to criminogenic contexts, all of which increase the likelihood of criminal involvement.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:44:55 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:27:38 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:16:11 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:50:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
All murder is preventable.. just don't do it!
So my pain for losing a family member to murder would be more? WTF
I've more chance of a white male Christian of fighting age killing a member of my family than someone of a different colour
Yes, but whites are still way under-represented in the stats for perpetrators, and blacks way over-represented.
I'll go back to what I'd said earlier
Higher Crime in Deprived Areas: In London, 41% more crimes were recorded in the most income-deprived 10% of areas in 2024 compared to the least deprived 10%. Specific offences like violence, robbery, sexual offences, and drug/weapons offences were over two times more prevalent in these deprived areas.
Victimisation: People living in the most deprived neighbourhoods are significantly more likely to be victims of crime. 25% of people in the most deprived areas live in the 10% of neighbourhoods with the highest crime rates, compared to only 3.1% in the least deprived areas.
Economic deprivation: Lack of access to quality education, stable employment opportunities, and basic resources can lead some individuals to turn to crime as an alternative means for survival or to achieve desired ends.
Relative deprivation and inequality: The feeling of being economically disadvantaged compared to others can foster feelings of resentment and alienation, which may lead to criminal behaviour.
Social conditions: Disadvantaged neighbourhoods often have higher unemployment rates, less social support, and higher exposure to criminogenic contexts, all of which increase the likelihood of criminal involvement.
But you never explained why this should mean blacks.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:49:47 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:44:55 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:27:38 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:16:11 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:50:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
All murder is preventable.. just don't do it!
So my pain for losing a family member to murder would be more? WTF
I've more chance of a white male Christian of fighting age killing a member of my family than someone of a different colour
Yes, but whites are still way under-represented in the stats for perpetrators, and blacks way over-represented.
I'll go back to what I'd said earlier
Higher Crime in Deprived Areas: In London, 41% more crimes were recorded in the most income-deprived 10% of areas in 2024 compared to the least deprived 10%. Specific offences like violence, robbery, sexual offences, and drug/weapons offences were over two times more prevalent in these deprived areas.
Victimisation: People living in the most deprived neighbourhoods are significantly more likely to be victims of crime. 25% of people in the most deprived areas live in the 10% of neighbourhoods with the highest crime rates, compared to only 3.1% in the least deprived areas.
Economic deprivation: Lack of access to quality education, stable employment opportunities, and basic resources can lead some individuals to turn to crime as an alternative means for survival or to achieve desired ends.
Relative deprivation and inequality: The feeling of being economically disadvantaged compared to others can foster feelings of resentment and alienation, which may lead to criminal behaviour.
Social conditions: Disadvantaged neighbourhoods often have higher unemployment rates, less social support, and higher exposure to criminogenic contexts, all of which increase the likelihood of criminal involvement.
But you never explained why this should mean blacks.
It's people in deprived areas, that's the world over, whether they be black white asian or mixed.
You can't see anything but black, pretty sad coming from someone from here who was treated as badly right through to the 90's
You are the one ramming down people's throats. Go live your life
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:49:47 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:44:55 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:27:38 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:16:11 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:50:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
All murder is preventable.. just don't do it!
So my pain for losing a family member to murder would be more? WTF
I've more chance of a white male Christian of fighting age killing a member of my family than someone of a different colour
Yes, but whites are still way under-represented in the stats for perpetrators, and blacks way over-represented.
I'll go back to what I'd said earlier
Higher Crime in Deprived Areas: In London, 41% more crimes were recorded in the most income-deprived 10% of areas in 2024 compared to the least deprived 10%. Specific offences like violence, robbery, sexual offences, and drug/weapons offences were over two times more prevalent in these deprived areas.
Victimisation: People living in the most deprived neighbourhoods are significantly more likely to be victims of crime. 25% of people in the most deprived areas live in the 10% of neighbourhoods with the highest crime rates, compared to only 3.1% in the least deprived areas.
Economic deprivation: Lack of access to quality education, stable employment opportunities, and basic resources can lead some individuals to turn to crime as an alternative means for survival or to achieve desired ends.
Relative deprivation and inequality: The feeling of being economically disadvantaged compared to others can foster feelings of resentment and alienation, which may lead to criminal behaviour.
Social conditions: Disadvantaged neighbourhoods often have higher unemployment rates, less social support, and higher exposure to criminogenic contexts, all of which increase the likelihood of criminal involvement.
But you never explained why this should mean blacks.
Absolutely shocking and disgusting racism from Milltown Row 2
There are plenty of people in the country who never should have been let in or who (should have been kicked out) who aren't Black
He's conflating Black people with murderers
Diagusting
Quote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 08:29:01 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:49:47 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:44:55 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:27:38 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:16:11 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:50:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
All murder is preventable.. just don't do it!
So my pain for losing a family member to murder would be more? WTF
I've more chance of a white male Christian of fighting age killing a member of my family than someone of a different colour
Yes, but whites are still way under-represented in the stats for perpetrators, and blacks way over-represented.
I'll go back to what I'd said earlier
Higher Crime in Deprived Areas: In London, 41% more crimes were recorded in the most income-deprived 10% of areas in 2024 compared to the least deprived 10%. Specific offences like violence, robbery, sexual offences, and drug/weapons offences were over two times more prevalent in these deprived areas.
Victimisation: People living in the most deprived neighbourhoods are significantly more likely to be victims of crime. 25% of people in the most deprived areas live in the 10% of neighbourhoods with the highest crime rates, compared to only 3.1% in the least deprived areas.
Economic deprivation: Lack of access to quality education, stable employment opportunities, and basic resources can lead some individuals to turn to crime as an alternative means for survival or to achieve desired ends.
Relative deprivation and inequality: The feeling of being economically disadvantaged compared to others can foster feelings of resentment and alienation, which may lead to criminal behaviour.
Social conditions: Disadvantaged neighbourhoods often have higher unemployment rates, less social support, and higher exposure to criminogenic contexts, all of which increase the likelihood of criminal involvement.
But you never explained why this should mean blacks.
Absolutely shocking and disgusting racism from Milltown Row 2
There are plenty of people in the country who never should have been let in or who (should have been kicked out) who aren't Black
He's conflating Black people with murderers
Diagusting
Yeah that's what it is! If you lose a child to a white person you'd be happier though, so there's that
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 08:32:49 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 08:29:01 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:49:47 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:44:55 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:27:38 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:16:11 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:50:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
All murder is preventable.. just don't do it!
So my pain for losing a family member to murder would be more? WTF
I've more chance of a white male Christian of fighting age killing a member of my family than someone of a different colour
Yes, but whites are still way under-represented in the stats for perpetrators, and blacks way over-represented.
I'll go back to what I'd said earlier
Higher Crime in Deprived Areas: In London, 41% more crimes were recorded in the most income-deprived 10% of areas in 2024 compared to the least deprived 10%. Specific offences like violence, robbery, sexual offences, and drug/weapons offences were over two times more prevalent in these deprived areas.
Victimisation: People living in the most deprived neighbourhoods are significantly more likely to be victims of crime. 25% of people in the most deprived areas live in the 10% of neighbourhoods with the highest crime rates, compared to only 3.1% in the least deprived areas.
Economic deprivation: Lack of access to quality education, stable employment opportunities, and basic resources can lead some individuals to turn to crime as an alternative means for survival or to achieve desired ends.
Relative deprivation and inequality: The feeling of being economically disadvantaged compared to others can foster feelings of resentment and alienation, which may lead to criminal behaviour.
Social conditions: Disadvantaged neighbourhoods often have higher unemployment rates, less social support, and higher exposure to criminogenic contexts, all of which increase the likelihood of criminal involvement.
But you never explained why this should mean blacks.
Absolutely shocking and disgusting racism from Milltown Row 2
There are plenty of people in the country who never should have been let in or who (should have been kicked out) who aren't Black
He's conflating Black people with murderers
Diagusting
Yeah that's what it is! If you lose a child to a white person you'd be happier though, so there's that
I find it insane that someone who lived under both loyalist and British subjugation has surrendered themselves to a a woke ideology that compromises their own safety and security in order to receive a pat on the head
It's actually mind blowing
Quote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 09:49:27 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 08:32:49 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 08:29:01 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:49:47 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:44:55 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:27:38 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:16:11 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:50:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
All murder is preventable.. just don't do it!
So my pain for losing a family member to murder would be more? WTF
I've more chance of a white male Christian of fighting age killing a member of my family than someone of a different colour
Yes, but whites are still way under-represented in the stats for perpetrators, and blacks way over-represented.
I'll go back to what I'd said earlier
Higher Crime in Deprived Areas: In London, 41% more crimes were recorded in the most income-deprived 10% of areas in 2024 compared to the least deprived 10%. Specific offences like violence, robbery, sexual offences, and drug/weapons offences were over two times more prevalent in these deprived areas.
Victimisation: People living in the most deprived neighbourhoods are significantly more likely to be victims of crime. 25% of people in the most deprived areas live in the 10% of neighbourhoods with the highest crime rates, compared to only 3.1% in the least deprived areas.
Economic deprivation: Lack of access to quality education, stable employment opportunities, and basic resources can lead some individuals to turn to crime as an alternative means for survival or to achieve desired ends.
Relative deprivation and inequality: The feeling of being economically disadvantaged compared to others can foster feelings of resentment and alienation, which may lead to criminal behaviour.
Social conditions: Disadvantaged neighbourhoods often have higher unemployment rates, less social support, and higher exposure to criminogenic contexts, all of which increase the likelihood of criminal involvement.
But you never explained why this should mean blacks.
Absolutely shocking and disgusting racism from Milltown Row 2
There are plenty of people in the country who never should have been let in or who (should have been kicked out) who aren't Black
He's conflating Black people with murderers
Diagusting
Yeah that's what it is! If you lose a child to a white person you'd be happier though, so there's that
I find it insane that someone who lived under both loyalist and British subjugation has surrendered themselves to a a woke ideology that compromises their own safety and security in order to receive a pat on the head
It's actually mind blowing
Some mental gymnastics but not surprising from a racist
You are no different to the ideology of the knuckle dragging loyalists thugs of the 70's who went about dehumanising catholics to the point that the Protestant community didn't really bat and eyelid at the likes of the Shankill butchers..
I've stated plenty times it's the government's that need to fix it.. not thugs walking the streets protecting 'their women and children'
They really, really couldn't give a stuff about them, but it's a handy excuse to again dehumanise create fear and get on like Nazi brown coats
I hope your kids don't heed anything you utter to them
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 10:09:39 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 09:49:27 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 08:32:49 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 08:29:01 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:49:47 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:44:55 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 29, 2025, 07:27:38 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 07:16:11 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:50:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: whitey on October 29, 2025, 06:45:13 PMSo MR2-do you make any differentiation between crimes committed by people who are here legally and people who are here illegally (or fraudently)?
They're all equal in your book-even though some crimes (such as the accused rap15t of the 10 year old girl) are 100% preventable if we had enforced our own immigration laws
Interesting
Murder is murder but if it's a black man it's worse? Interesting
If a family member was murdered by a someone who should have been deported (or not let in to begin with) years ago. Then yes-in my book.... it is worse because it was preventable
All murder is preventable.. just don't do it!
So my pain for losing a family member to murder would be more? WTF
I've more chance of a white male Christian of fighting age killing a member of my family than someone of a different colour
Yes, but whites are still way under-represented in the stats for perpetrators, and blacks way over-represented.
I'll go back to what I'd said earlier
Higher Crime in Deprived Areas: In London, 41% more crimes were recorded in the most income-deprived 10% of areas in 2024 compared to the least deprived 10%. Specific offences like violence, robbery, sexual offences, and drug/weapons offences were over two times more prevalent in these deprived areas.
Victimisation: People living in the most deprived neighbourhoods are significantly more likely to be victims of crime. 25% of people in the most deprived areas live in the 10% of neighbourhoods with the highest crime rates, compared to only 3.1% in the least deprived areas.
Economic deprivation: Lack of access to quality education, stable employment opportunities, and basic resources can lead some individuals to turn to crime as an alternative means for survival or to achieve desired ends.
Relative deprivation and inequality: The feeling of being economically disadvantaged compared to others can foster feelings of resentment and alienation, which may lead to criminal behaviour.
Social conditions: Disadvantaged neighbourhoods often have higher unemployment rates, less social support, and higher exposure to criminogenic contexts, all of which increase the likelihood of criminal involvement.
But you never explained why this should mean blacks.
Absolutely shocking and disgusting racism from Milltown Row 2
There are plenty of people in the country who never should have been let in or who (should have been kicked out) who aren't Black
He's conflating Black people with murderers
Diagusting
Yeah that's what it is! If you lose a child to a white person you'd be happier though, so there's that
I find it insane that someone who lived under both loyalist and British subjugation has surrendered themselves to a a woke ideology that compromises their own safety and security in order to receive a pat on the head
It's actually mind blowing
Some mental gymnastics but not surprising from a racist
You are no different to the ideology of the knuckle dragging loyalists thugs of the 70's who went about dehumanising catholics to the point that the Protestant community didn't really bat and eyelid at the likes of the Shankill butchers..
I've stated plenty times it's the government's that need to fix it.. not thugs walking the streets protecting 'their women and children'
They really, really couldn't give a stuff about them, but it's a handy excuse to again dehumanise create fear and get on like Nazi brown coats
I hope your kids don't heed anything you utter to them
So it's racist to expect the Irish government to enforce laws they themselves passed?
I've heard it all now
I wouldn't worry about the Irish government as firstly you are living in the states, it's a line you use often, you never lived in south either.
You are quality though, definitely on a par with big Tony.
Like your idol, if you say it many times you start to believe it.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 11:13:54 PMI wouldn't worry about the Irish government as firstly you are living in the states, it's a line you use often, you never lived in south either.
You are quality though, definitely on a par with big Tony.
Like your idol, if you say it many times you start to believe it.
This popped up on my feed this morning
I hope you're sitting down and not near any sharp objects or open windows
https://extra.ie/2025/10/30/news/tanaiste-simon-harris-immigration
'One of the reasons I think they are so high is that there are too many people who come to this country and are told they do not have a right to be here, and it is taking too long for them to leave the country"
Maybe the 13% spoiled votes sent a message, after all?
Quote from: whitey on October 28, 2025, 03:39:45 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 28, 2025, 11:38:18 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 28, 2025, 07:47:31 AMQuote from: Rossfan on October 26, 2025, 12:09:02 PMBunreacht na hÉireann lays down how you get on the ballot paper i.e only elected representatives have nomination rights.
I do think something needs looked at there. Harris blocking the nomination of anyone else by FG was poor.
This isn't new though. Parties have always done this. What seems to be different this time is the people pulling the strings have just found out.
In the last presidential election cycle councils nominated at least 4 independent candidates
I'm assuming the number was similar 14 years ago
Councils NOT NOMINATING independent is new
No, what is new is very few candidates tried and even fewer tried seriously
Fianna Fáil and others had 7 years notice of when the Election was scheduled.
Wasn't as if MDH resigned or died suddenly.
Yet the 3 big parties were like rabbits in the headlights.
FG had an annointed candidate who dropped out late so some excuse.
SF flipped and flopped, then decided to jump on the Connolly bandwagon.
FF had their leader pull a rabbit from the hat at the last minute.
Quote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 06:08:05 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on October 29, 2025, 06:00:51 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:48:19 PMIn the year ending March 2024, there were approximately 570 homicides recorded in England and Wales, along with 52 in Scotland and 18 in Northern Ireland, bringing the total for the UK to around 640. This represents a decrease from previous years, though figures can fluctuate annually
81% white Christian fighting age men too
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2025, 05:44:22 PMQuote from: Deerstalker on October 29, 2025, 04:55:49 PMAnother asylum seeker who arrived illegally from Somalia (and was known to police in four European countries).
Another random indiscriminate murder.
Jailed today for a minimum of 25 years.
Asylum seeker who murdered man inside bank jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyld1p0lw1o.amp
Are you putting up all murders or selective?
Of course the psychology is White lads killing white would happen anyway. Black killing white is extra killings that would not happen is if Black was not here.
Well if you are going to be accurate the link above the victim was not white. The colour of the victim hardly matters.
It's only going to get worse, that's for sure.
If you actually care about the victim then the colour of the perpetrator doesn't matter either
QuoteMaybe the 13% spoiled votes sent a message, after all?
I doubt it
Election didn't go as planned , capitalising on the pressure on MM, and trying to butter up the voters . They are seeing what way the feeling is growing re: immigration, and it's juat sound bites to make it look like we're going to do something about it. When in reality , they'll do absolutely nothing.
its all smoke and mirrors. More fool those who believe the slimey p***k
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 30, 2025, 12:23:06 PMQuoteMaybe the 13% spoiled votes sent a message, after all?
I doubt it
Election didn't go as planned , capitalising on the pressure on MM, and trying to butter up the voters . They are seeing what way the feeling is growing re: immigration, and it's juat sound bites to make it look like we're going to do something about it. When in reality , they'll do absolutely nothing.
its all smoke and mirrors. More fool those who believe the slimey p***k
To what end, is it in their interests to do nothing? What do they gain from doing nothing in the current climate?
Quote from: JoG2 on October 30, 2025, 12:57:17 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on October 30, 2025, 12:23:06 PMQuoteMaybe the 13% spoiled votes sent a message, after all?
I doubt it
Election didn't go as planned , capitalising on the pressure on MM, and trying to butter up the voters . They are seeing what way the feeling is growing re: immigration, and it's juat sound bites to make it look like we're going to do something about it. When in reality , they'll do absolutely nothing.
its all smoke and mirrors. More fool those who believe the slimey p***k
To what end, is it in their interests to do nothing? What do they gain from doing nothing in the current climate?
They will get the Pat on the back from the EU for been a good little country and doing its bit.
Am I getting this right?
Tánaiste, FG leader, Cabinet member for 9 or is it 14 years suddenly bursts out " Government need to do something about immigration"????
Does he mean leave the EU, or the Common Travel Area with GB, or abolish work permits/work visas?
Or is it the 10% who apply for I.P. in accordance with International Law.
Was he a member of Governments who lumped immigration along with children and disabilities and other responsibilities on 1 Junior Minister?
Did he take the wrong tablets yesterday??
Quote from: Rossfan on October 30, 2025, 01:28:36 PMAm I getting this right?
Tánaiste, FG leader, Cabinet member for 9 or is it 14 years suddenly bursts out " Government need to do something about immigration"????
Does he mean leave the EU, or the Common Travel Area with GB, or abolish work permits/work visas?
Or is it the 10% who apply for I.P. in accordance with International Law.
Was he a member of Governments who lumped immigration along with children and disabilities and other responsibilities on 1 Junior Minister?
Did he take the wrong tablets yesterday??
Do you not think that something needs done?
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 30, 2025, 02:07:12 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 30, 2025, 01:28:36 PMAm I getting this right?
Tánaiste, FG leader, Cabinet member for 9 or is it 14 years suddenly bursts out " Government need to do something about immigration"????
Does he mean leave the EU, or the Common Travel Area with GB, or abolish work permits/work visas?
Or is it the 10% who apply for I.P. in accordance with International Law.
Was he a member of Governments who lumped immigration along with children and disabilities and other responsibilities on 1 Junior Minister?
Did he take the wrong tablets yesterday??
Do you not think that something needs done?
Why would he think that?
Himself and MR2 are full blown proponents of open borders
Let everyone in and kick no one out
Quote from: whitey on October 30, 2025, 02:15:35 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 30, 2025, 02:07:12 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 30, 2025, 01:28:36 PMAm I getting this right?
Tánaiste, FG leader, Cabinet member for 9 or is it 14 years suddenly bursts out " Government need to do something about immigration"????
Does he mean leave the EU, or the Common Travel Area with GB, or abolish work permits/work visas?
Or is it the 10% who apply for I.P. in accordance with International Law.
Was he a member of Governments who lumped immigration along with children and disabilities and other responsibilities on 1 Junior Minister?
Did he take the wrong tablets yesterday??
Do you not think that something needs done?
Why would he think that?
Himself and MR2 are full blown proponents of open borders
Let everyone in and kick no one out
Morphing into full blown gaslighting alternate fact MAGA compete
Yep.
9 or 14 years as a Minister. Left it to a Junior Minister.
Immigration now under Justice with a fine lump of a full Minister in charge.
If Harris suddenly has issues can't he have a little chat with the Minister or raise it at Caninet meetings.
Unless hes trying to engineer a split with FF leading to a GE?
Quote from: whitey on October 30, 2025, 02:15:35 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 30, 2025, 02:07:12 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 30, 2025, 01:28:36 PMAm I getting this right?
Tánaiste, FG leader, Cabinet member for 9 or is it 14 years suddenly bursts out " Government need to do something about immigration"????
Does he mean leave the EU, or the Common Travel Area with GB, or abolish work permits/work visas?
Or is it the 10% who apply for I.P. in accordance with International Law.
Was he a member of Governments who lumped immigration along with children and disabilities and other responsibilities on 1 Junior Minister?
Did he take the wrong tablets yesterday??
Do you not think that something needs done?
Why would he think that?
Himself and MR2 are full blown proponents of open borders
Let everyone in and kick no one out
You'll do very well to post something I said about open borders.. The more you stay in the states the more your brain dissolves ..
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2025, 03:01:19 PMQuote from: whitey on October 30, 2025, 02:15:35 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 30, 2025, 02:07:12 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 30, 2025, 01:28:36 PMAm I getting this right?
Tánaiste, FG leader, Cabinet member for 9 or is it 14 years suddenly bursts out " Government need to do something about immigration"????
Does he mean leave the EU, or the Common Travel Area with GB, or abolish work permits/work visas?
Or is it the 10% who apply for I.P. in accordance with International Law.
Was he a member of Governments who lumped immigration along with children and disabilities and other responsibilities on 1 Junior Minister?
Did he take the wrong tablets yesterday??
Do you not think that something needs done?
Why would he think that?
Himself and MR2 are full blown proponents of open borders
Let everyone in and kick no one out
You'll do very well to post something I said about open borders.. The more you stay in the states the more your brain dissolves ..
Someone whose response to a 10 year old girl being raped by a failed (undeported) asylum seeker is "well what about the Irish rapists" is an open borders apologist
Quote from: whitey on October 30, 2025, 03:33:10 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2025, 03:01:19 PMQuote from: whitey on October 30, 2025, 02:15:35 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 30, 2025, 02:07:12 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 30, 2025, 01:28:36 PMAm I getting this right?
Tánaiste, FG leader, Cabinet member for 9 or is it 14 years suddenly bursts out " Government need to do something about immigration"????
Does he mean leave the EU, or the Common Travel Area with GB, or abolish work permits/work visas?
Or is it the 10% who apply for I.P. in accordance with International Law.
Was he a member of Governments who lumped immigration along with children and disabilities and other responsibilities on 1 Junior Minister?
Did he take the wrong tablets yesterday??
Do you not think that something needs done?
Why would he think that?
Himself and MR2 are full blown proponents of open borders
Let everyone in and kick no one out
You'll do very well to post something I said about open borders.. The more you stay in the states the more your brain dissolves ..
Someone whose response to a 10 year old girl being raped by a failed (undeported) asylum seeker is "well what about the Irish rapists" is an open borders apologist
Jesus! The mental gymnastics to get to that, where I said I'm for open borders is worrying for your state of mind.. You need another sabbatical, you aint in a good head space
Will Whitey and company blame poor Mr Strok?
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/1030/1541348-josip-strok-court/
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1029/1541211-tanaiste-immigration/
A further shift to the right from FG in the aftermath of a bad election.
The govt parties have been dog whistling the far right since they began to raise their head but this seems to be immune from criticism.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 30, 2025, 12:14:12 PMFianna Fáil and others had 7 years notice of when the Election was scheduled.
Wasn't as if MDH resigned or died suddenly.
Yet the 3 big parties were like rabbits in the headlights.
FG had an annointed candidate who dropped out late so some excuse.
SF flipped and flopped, then decided to jump on the Connolly bandwagon.
FF had their leader pull a rabbit from the hat at the last minute.
In other words FF and FG made a dogs dinner of their election while the SF backed candidate won in a landslide.
Pretty desperate stuff from you but what's new.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 30, 2025, 12:14:12 PMFianna Fáil and others had 7 years notice of when the Election was scheduled.
Wasn't as if MDH resigned or died suddenly.
Yet the 3 big parties were like rabbits in the headlights.
FG had an annointed candidate who dropped out late so some excuse.
SF flipped and flopped, then decided to jump on the Connolly bandwagon.
FF had their leader pull a rabbit from the hat at the last minute.
You forgot Aontú and their like who tried to railroad Steen in last minute.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 30, 2025, 04:55:35 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1029/1541211-tanaiste-immigration/
A further shift to the right from FG in the aftermath of a bad election.
The govt parties have been dog whistling the far right since they began to raise their head but this seems to be immune from criticism.
Errrmmm, is he not THE government?
Quote from: Cavan19 on October 30, 2025, 12:59:25 PMQuote from: JoG2 on October 30, 2025, 12:57:17 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on October 30, 2025, 12:23:06 PMQuoteMaybe the 13% spoiled votes sent a message, after all?
I doubt it
Election didn't go as planned , capitalising on the pressure on MM, and trying to butter up the voters . They are seeing what way the feeling is growing re: immigration, and it's juat sound bites to make it look like we're going to do something about it. When in reality , they'll do absolutely nothing.
its all smoke and mirrors. More fool those who believe the slimey p***k
To what end, is it in their interests to do nothing? What do they gain from doing nothing in the current climate?
They will get the Pat on the back from the EU for been a good little country and doing its bit.
Leave the EU, is that your wish? Because that works out well
Quote from: JoG2 on October 30, 2025, 12:57:17 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on October 30, 2025, 12:23:06 PMQuoteMaybe the 13% spoiled votes sent a message, after all?
I doubt it
Election didn't go as planned , capitalising on the pressure on MM, and trying to butter up the voters . They are seeing what way the feeling is growing re: immigration, and it's juat sound bites to make it look like we're going to do something about it. When in reality , they'll do absolutely nothing.
its all smoke and mirrors. More fool those who believe the slimey p***k
To what end, is it in their interests to do nothing? What do they gain from doing nothing in the current climate?
Or you might ask , why is it in their interests to DO something?
Quote from: marty34 on October 30, 2025, 05:29:55 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 30, 2025, 04:55:35 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1029/1541211-tanaiste-immigration/
A further shift to the right from FG in the aftermath of a bad election.
The govt parties have been dog whistling the far right since they began to raise their head but this seems to be immune from criticism.
Errrmmm, is he not THE government?
He is indeed.
He and his govt colleagues have been happy to allow this to happen as hoteliers and corporate landlords have been able to line their pockets with taxpayers money.
It's been a policy to land in large groups of immigrants to working class urban areas and rural towns and villages who do have the infrastructure and services to cope with such and it's been done without any consultation.
Now the same guys who have created this crisis are trying to dog whistle the far right and further try and pin the problem on immigrants themselves.
It's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 30, 2025, 06:45:10 PMIt's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.
A lot of what you said is true, but it loses all credibility with this pathetic, cheap shot.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 30, 2025, 06:49:19 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 30, 2025, 06:45:10 PMIt's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.
A lot of what you said is true, but it loses all credibility with this pathetic, cheap shot.
It's pathetic and cheap to point out facts? Did you ever hear of Eoin O'Duffy and the Blueshirts? Are you aware of their history and origin?
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 30, 2025, 06:49:19 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 30, 2025, 06:45:10 PMIt's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.
A lot of what you said is true, but it loses all credibility with this pathetic, cheap shot.
He ain't wrong for a change though.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 30, 2025, 06:53:05 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 30, 2025, 06:49:19 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 30, 2025, 06:45:10 PMIt's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.
A lot of what you said is true, but it loses all credibility with this pathetic, cheap shot.
It's pathetic and cheap to point out facts? Did you ever hear of Eoin O'Duffy and the Blueshirts? Are you aware of their history and origin?
Of course I did. However, Fine Gael has nothing in common with fascism for over eighty years, and in fact cosied up to the left to gain power for many years. I wouldn't even consider it a right-wing party.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 30, 2025, 07:00:08 PMOf course I did. However, Fine Gael has nothing in common with fascism for over eighty years, and in fact cosied up to the left to gain power for many years. I wouldn't even consider it a right-wing party.
What utter, utter nonsense. Being neo liberal is not left wing, it's right wing? You are genuinely telling me people the Thatcherite policies of FG since they resumed power in 2011 are left wing?
Both FG and FF are considerably right of centre and have been for a very long time, FG for their entire existence.
You think the likes of your Bruton, Shatter, Charlie Flanagan, Madigan and Carroll MacNeill are left wing? You must be on crack.
They're socially liberal, and they cosied up to Labour, Democratic Left, and The Greens to get into power. I'd consider them centrists.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 30, 2025, 07:27:21 PMThey're socially liberal, and they cosied up to Labour, Democratic Left, and The Greens to get into power. I'd consider them centrists.
None of those parties are of the left. They are centrists. Labour rolled out a draconian program or austerity in power.
When you say they are socially liberal that means they are neo liberal which is a right wing position.
They are right wing.
Whatever.
You are clearly extremely far to the left.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 30, 2025, 07:43:49 PMWhatever.
You are clearly extremely far to the left.
No I'm centre left.
I'm not a communist or Marxist. I do think the rich and elites should be taxed much and held accountable. I disagree with privatisation of vital services like health, energy, public transport and believe much more social housing should be provided. I think there should be far more regulation of businesses and industries than is happening at the minute, which has been a huge cause in the cost of living crisis and creating wealth inequality.
I have zero issue with immigration, immigrants are needed for certain jobs and contribute to the economy and we also owe it to ourselves to look after people fleeing war torn countries. I also acknowledge that the current system is a mess and ripe to abuse. The government are using mass immigration to enrich the wealthy without giving a toss about the communities they bring immigrants to or how the immigrants integrate with them.
I have no strong opinions on gay marriage, homosexuality, abortion etc, trans people etc. Each to their own....
Neo liberal (centre right) policies have left everything to the free market, have deregulated nearly all industries and allowed multi nationals, conglomerates and domestic oligarchs to gouge working class and middles class people. Only the left have the sincerity and good faith to reverse this. The far rights game is all about punching down and blaming and ostracising the most vulnerable.
There is nothing far or extreme left there. The issue is you are so far on the right that you deem anything left of your view as far left.
To actually consider FF or FG to be anywhere left is madness. They are very much right of centre. If you look at their groupings in the EU, they are both part of right wing and centre right blocs.
Their is no far left in Irish politics. We don't have a communist party, PBP are left wing but they are nowhere near far left.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 30, 2025, 06:45:10 PMQuote from: marty34 on October 30, 2025, 05:29:55 PMQuote from: Hand of God on October 30, 2025, 04:55:35 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1029/1541211-tanaiste-immigration/
A further shift to the right from FG in the aftermath of a bad election.
The govt parties have been dog whistling the far right since they began to raise their head but this seems to be immune from criticism.
Errrmmm, is he not THE government?
He is indeed.
He and his govt colleagues have been happy to allow this to happen as hoteliers and corporate landlords have been able to line their pockets with taxpayers money.
It's been a policy to land in large groups of immigrants to working class urban areas and rural towns and villages who do have the infrastructure and services to cope with such and it's been done without any consultation.
Now the same guys who have created this crisis are trying to wolf whistle the far right and further try and pin the problem on immigrants themselves.
It's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.
It's good to hear someone on here talk of the real issue. As i said before follow the money.....
I hope the open borders apologists aren't triggered by what Michael Martin just said this morning as follow up to Simon Harris's comments yesterday
https://gript.ie/martin-up-to-80-of-those-in-ipas-are-economic-migrants/?fbclid=IwY2xjawNxZ6ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHj6eQ6oMkR1LQZ1sv0pfUlerWNwr0i23m5ZvNl_DqHwOrUXbOfUw7h7r_Vbj_aem_NTED_Ns3sRYQGWYvoLBrDw
My sincerest apologies for linking to a Gript article, but unfortunately (so far) RTE and other similarly reputable outlets havent picked up on these comments
I'm sure it will be on the front pages when they hear about it
not opening that but wondering where he is getting his data from
I see 4 "heroes" in Court in Belfast for attacking foreign tourists.
Another of Whiteys heroes!
Harris-we need to deport more people
Martin-80% of IPAS applications are fraudulent
Rossfan-Irish people are criminals too
Enjoy your open borders
Quote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 01:20:01 PMHarris-we need to deport more people
Martin-80% of IPAS applications are fraudulent
Rossfan-Irish people are criminals too
Enjoy your open borders
I did! Three month visa waiver, had best few years in New York.. the undocumented Irish... tens of thousands of us (illegals if you're Mexican).
Wouldn't phone it now... fascist state.
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2025, 01:54:19 PMQuote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 01:20:01 PMHarris-we need to deport more people
Martin-80% of IPAS applications are fraudulent
Rossfan-Irish people are criminals too
Enjoy your open borders
I did! Three month visa waiver, had best few years in New York.. the undocumented Irish... tens of thousands of us (illegals if you're Mexican).
Wouldn't phone it now... fascist state.
Delighted for you-NYC is a great city
(A few thousand Irish undocumented in a country of 330,000,000, is a rounding error)
Enjoy the open borders (that you're paying for)
Quote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 01:20:01 PMHarris-we need to deport more people
Martin-80% of IPAS applications are fraudulent
Rossfan-Irish people are criminals too
Enjoy your open borders
I take it Martin has undergone the training required to decide International Protection cases and has looked at every one to make a determination that 80% of them are economic migrants and fraudulent?
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 31, 2025, 03:46:22 PMQuote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 01:20:01 PMHarris-we need to deport more people
Martin-80% of IPAS applications are fraudulent
Rossfan-Irish people are criminals too
Enjoy your open borders
I take it Martin has undergone the training required to decide International Protection cases and has looked at every one to make a determination that 80% of them are economic migrants and fraudulent?
It's far right rhetoric now being issued by the establishment parties (FFG) on the back of a damaging election. It's amazing that the self proclaimed "centrists" don't have much issue with that though.
Martin and Harris losing the plot these days.
The Presidential election seems to have badly affected them.
The nazifascistrumpian response "its them bloody foreigners"
"There's too many of them"
Find some group that haven't a vote and dump down on them.
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2025, 01:54:19 PMQuote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 01:20:01 PMHarris-we need to deport more people
Martin-80% of IPAS applications are fraudulent
Rossfan-Irish people are criminals too
Enjoy your open borders
I did! Three month visa waiver, had best few years in New York.. the undocumented Irish... tens of thousands of us (illegals if you're Mexican).
Wouldn't phone it now... fascist state.
So just because you had a whale of a time in New York, we here should let in every hoor from all around the world? Nah.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 31, 2025, 04:31:59 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2025, 01:54:19 PMQuote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 01:20:01 PMHarris-we need to deport more people
Martin-80% of IPAS applications are fraudulent
Rossfan-Irish people are criminals too
Enjoy your open borders
I did! Three month visa waiver, had best few years in New York.. the undocumented Irish... tens of thousands of us (illegals if you're Mexican).
Wouldn't phone it now... fascist state.
So just because you had a whale of a time in New York, we here should let in every hoor from all around the world? Nah.
Did I say that? Just pointing out the hypocrisy of Whitey in the US lecturing us about open borders.
"EVERY hoor from around the world"... says it all bout your attitude to migrants and refugees fleeing dire situations.
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2025, 04:47:50 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 31, 2025, 04:31:59 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2025, 01:54:19 PMQuote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 01:20:01 PMHarris-we need to deport more people
Martin-80% of IPAS applications are fraudulent
Rossfan-Irish people are criminals too
Enjoy your open borders
I did! Three month visa waiver, had best few years in New York.. the undocumented Irish... tens of thousands of us (illegals if you're Mexican).
Wouldn't phone it now... fascist state.
So just because you had a whale of a time in New York, we here should let in every hoor from all around the world? Nah.
Did I say that? Just pointing out the hypocrisy of Whitey in the US lecturing us about open borders.
"EVERY hoor from around the world"... says it all bout your attitude to migrants and refugees (of whom 80% are fraudulent) fleeing dire situations.
Ah yes
Another routine taking point from the open borders advocates
Because Irish people have in the past emigrated for "work" no one is even allowed question who is allowed into the country
Quote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 05:39:32 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2025, 04:47:50 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 31, 2025, 04:31:59 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2025, 01:54:19 PMQuote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 01:20:01 PMHarris-we need to deport more people
Martin-80% of IPAS applications are fraudulent
Rossfan-Irish people are criminals too
Enjoy your open borders
I did! Three month visa waiver, had best few years in New York.. the undocumented Irish... tens of thousands of us (illegals if you're Mexican).
Wouldn't phone it now... fascist state.
So just because you had a whale of a time in New York, we here should let in every hoor from all around the world? Nah.
Did I say that? Just pointing out the hypocrisy of Whitey in the US lecturing us about open borders.
"EVERY hoor from around the world"... says it all bout your attitude to migrants and refugees (of whom 80% are fraudulent) fleeing dire situations.
Ah yes
Another routine taking point from the open borders advocates
Because Irish people have in the past emigrated for "work" no one is even allowed question who is allowed into the country
Fact your a Trump fan in the US maybe take the plank out of your own eye and round up the Irish illegals.
Irish illegal economic migrants are merely 'undocumented', in a similar way to how English immigrants are merely ex-pats.
A sense of entitlement.
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 31, 2025, 05:49:13 PMIrish illegal economic migrants are merely 'undocumented', in a similar way to how English immigrants are merely ex-pats.
A sense of entitlement.
And you think the third world coming here has no sense of entitlement? Jaysus, they wouldn't bother if they didn't feel they'd get entitlements.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 31, 2025, 05:54:17 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on October 31, 2025, 05:49:13 PMIrish illegal economic migrants are merely 'undocumented', in a similar way to how English immigrants are merely ex-pats.
A sense of entitlement.
And you think the third world coming here has no sense of entitlement? Jaysus, they wouldn't bother if they didn't feel they'd get entitlements.
Doesn't really explain why the Irish are the undocumented and Mexicans are illegals 🤷
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 31, 2025, 05:54:17 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on October 31, 2025, 05:49:13 PMIrish illegal economic migrants are merely 'undocumented', in a similar way to how English immigrants are merely ex-pats.
A sense of entitlement.
And you think the third world coming here has no sense of entitlement? Jaysus, they wouldn't bother if they didn't feel they'd get entitlements.
You don't think many of them come to work, like we Irish have done everywhere we went, all just looking for handouts?
Quote from: currychip on October 31, 2025, 06:29:18 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on October 31, 2025, 05:54:17 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on October 31, 2025, 05:49:13 PMIrish illegal economic migrants are merely 'undocumented', in a similar way to how English immigrants are merely ex-pats.
A sense of entitlement.
And you think the third world coming here has no sense of entitlement? Jaysus, they wouldn't bother if they didn't feel they'd get entitlements.
You don't think many of them come to work, like we Irish have done everywhere we went, all just looking for handouts?
We don't mind the handouts at home though
Don't think they jump multi countries if the payments/accommodation were better than the countries they end up in. Sure France/Germany supposed to be high tech countries. I say they immigration controls on asylum seekers and paidouts nowhere near the UK or Ireland. Why would they pay so much and risk their life's to cross the channel.
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 31, 2025, 05:49:13 PMIrish illegal economic migrants are merely 'undocumented', in a similar way to how English immigrants are merely ex-pats.
A sense of entitlement.
Haha
I intentionally used that word to see if it would trigger anyone
Hook line and sinker
(All kidding aside I actually don't use the word illegal anymore in reference to anyone. I have read several books about the people crossing our Southern border and it's dehumanizing to use that word. I'm on record here saying amnesty should be given to everyone in the country without papers)
Quote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 07:11:03 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on October 31, 2025, 05:49:13 PMIrish illegal economic migrants are merely 'undocumented', in a similar way to how English immigrants are merely ex-pats.
A sense of entitlement.
Haha
I intentionally used that word to see if it would trigger anyone
Hook line and sinker
(All kidding aside I actually don't use the word illegal anymore in reference to anyone. I have read several books about the people crossing our Southern border and it's dehumanizing to use that word. I'm on record here saying amnesty should be given to everyone in the country without papers)
Will the real Whitey please stand up...
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2025, 07:14:59 PMQuote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 07:11:03 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on October 31, 2025, 05:49:13 PMIrish illegal economic migrants are merely 'undocumented', in a similar way to how English immigrants are merely ex-pats.
A sense of entitlement.
Haha
I intentionally used that word to see if it would trigger anyone
Hook line and sinker
(All kidding aside I actually don't use the word illegal anymore in reference to anyone. I have read several books about the people crossing our Southern border and it's dehumanizing to use that word. I'm on record here saying amnesty should be given to everyone in the country without papers)
Will the real Whitey please stand up...
I am a political moderate when it comes to immigration
There's 10s of millions of people here undocumented. Legalize them, help them
learn English, have them get proper drivers licenses and insurance and bring them into the system. Kick out the bad ones.
Its not that radical an idea
Quote from: whitey on October 31, 2025, 07:11:03 PMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on October 31, 2025, 05:49:13 PMIrish illegal economic migrants are merely 'undocumented', in a similar way to how English immigrants are merely ex-pats.
A sense of entitlement.
Haha
I intentionally used that word to see if it would trigger anyone
Hook line and sinker
(All kidding aside I actually don't use the word illegal anymore in reference to anyone. I have read several books about the people crossing our Southern border and it's dehumanizing to use that word. I'm on record here saying amnesty should be given to everyone in the country without papers)
In from Cavan direction ?
Apparently one of the best selling costumes this Halloween.
(https://i.ibb.co/Nnjwdjdm/Screenshot-20251101-123316-Facebook.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7NW7dWdR)
Speaking of people with no brain cells, someone was telling me that the Mary Wallopers called Catholics a shower of cvnts at a recent event for Catherine Connolly
I haven't seen any reporting on the incident in any respectable publication such as the Irish Independent or RTE
Surely this can't be true.
I mean such a talented bunch who constantly advocate for equality and provide a moral compass to so many
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 01:26:32 PMSpeaking of people with no brain cells, someone was telling me that the Mary Wallopers called Catholics a shower of cvnts at a recent event for Catherine Connolly
I haven't seen any reporting on the incident in any respectable publication such as the Irish Independent or RTE
Surely this can't be true.
I mean such a talented bunch who constantly advocate for equality and provide a moral compass to so many
Who or what are the Mary Wallopers?
A "ballad" group.
Fkn cnts
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1101/1541586-fire-louth/
Quote from: Rossfan on November 01, 2025, 01:48:09 PMFkn cnts
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1101/1541586-fire-louth/
Dehumanising, just like they did the Quinn kids, as they were seen to be subhuman..
But but but...
Hope Martin, Harris, and a few people here are proud of themselves.
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 01:26:32 PMSpeaking of people with no brain cells, someone was telling me that the Mary Wallopers called Catholics a shower of cvnts at a recent event for Catherine Connolly
I haven't seen any reporting on the incident in any respectable publication such as the Irish Independent or RTE
Surely this can't be true.
I mean such a talented bunch who constantly advocate for equality and provide a moral compass to so many
Haven't seen it but would take it to mean the Catholic Church no?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2025, 01:29:05 PMQuote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 01:26:32 PMSpeaking of people with no brain cells, someone was telling me that the Mary Wallopers called Catholics a shower of cvnts at a recent event for Catherine Connolly
I haven't seen any reporting on the incident in any respectable publication such as the Irish Independent or RTE
Surely this can't be true.
I mean such a talented bunch who constantly advocate for equality and provide a moral compass to so many
Who or what are the Mary Wallopers?
Super band, from Dundalk originally I think. They were on the Late Late not too long ago. Some good tunes.
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 01, 2025, 03:08:02 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2025, 01:29:05 PMQuote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 01:26:32 PMSpeaking of people with no brain cells, someone was telling me that the Mary Wallopers called Catholics a shower of cvnts at a recent event for Catherine Connolly
I haven't seen any reporting on the incident in any respectable publication such as the Irish Independent or RTE
Surely this can't be true.
I mean such a talented bunch who constantly advocate for equality and provide a moral compass to so many
Who or what are the Mary Wallopers?
Super band, from Dundalk originally I think. They were on the Late Late not too long ago. Some good tunes.
Havent seen the Late late show since the 80's when Stocktons wing were playing alongside the Dubliners
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 01:26:32 PMSpeaking of people with no brain cells, someone was telling me that the Mary Wallopers called Catholics a shower of cvnts at a recent event for Catherine Connolly
I haven't seen any reporting on the incident in any respectable publication such as the Irish Independent or RTE
Surely this can't be true.
I mean such a talented bunch who constantly advocate for equality and provide a moral compass to so many
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/the-mary-wallopers-the-damage-the-catholic-church-has-done-in-ireland-is-much-larger-than-the-harm-the-british-empire-did/42154380.html
Oh sound
So no one has an opinion on them (supposedly) calling Catholics a shower of cvnts from the stage
It must be great
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 03:29:23 PMOh sound
So no one has an opinion on them (supposedly) calling Catholics a shower of cvnts from the stage
It must be great
Haven't seen it but if they called the Catholic Church a shower of c***ts I'd have to agree.
Maybe you're in favour of touching up wee boys and covering it up are ya?
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 01, 2025, 03:33:00 PMQuote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 03:29:23 PMOh sound
So no one has an opinion on them (supposedly) calling Catholics a shower of cvnts from the stage
It must be great
Haven't seen it but if they called the Catholic Church a shower of c***ts I'd have to agree.
Maybe you're in favour of touching up wee boys and covering it up are ya?
What an absolutely shameless and disgraceful comment
So they called the church Cnuts but not all Catholics?
You love a good spin, Fox/Trump special ;D
If they're talking about the institution of the Catholic Church and how it's been run, they do have a point. Any other organisation with a record of destroying so many lives through its abuse of children and treatment of unmarried mothers amongst other henious actions would have been disbanded.
The Pope's recent hosting and exchanging gifts with the President of Israel was also appaling.
From the Bunker posted an article from 3+ years ago
I'm talking about what they actually said last week
Here's what I read
"Catholic Arena
@CatholicArena
Ireland's new President Catherine Connolly is facing calls to distance herself from horrific sectarian remarks made at her rally for young voters in Dublin last week
Pop band The Mary Wallopers, who come from Protestant family backgrounds, blasted the 'f*cking Catholic Church' and 'all those c*nts'
Connolly spoke on the same stage but did not condemn or distance herself from the remarks"
I'm not seeing this reported on any reputable websites that are known for telling the truth
If that's in fact what they said, then they should absolutely should be called out
So even though you had and idea of what they said (or didn't say) you still made up your comments ;D
f**k me man! Give up
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 06:14:48 PMFrom the Bunker posted an article from 3+ years ago
I'm talking about what they actually said last week
Here's what I read
"Catholic Arena
@CatholicArena
Ireland's new President Catherine Connolly is facing calls to distance herself from horrific sectarian remarks made at her rally for young voters in Dublin last week
Pop band The Mary Wallopers, who come from Protestant family backgrounds, blasted the 'f*cking Catholic Church' and 'all those c*nts'
Connolly spoke on the same stage but did not condemn or distance herself from the remarks"
I'm not seeing this reported on any reputable websites that are known for telling the truth
If that's in fact what they said, then they should absolutely should be called out
You're trying hard to be offended by comments though you don't know what they were!
Most people wouldn't be too annoyed given the Catholic Church's record.
They are another family left traumatised by the church... and your attempt at being sectarian doesn't work.
...Dundalk folk group The Mary Wallopers shared a petition calling for people adopted in Ireland to have equal right to their identity. They wrote that their father always believed their sister was illegally adopted and is still alive. Brothers Charles and Andrew Hendy will speak about their parents, who were young and in a "mixed marriage", as unions between Catholics and Protestants were known, were told their sister had died but never had proof or a grave to visit. They campaigned for justice during the scandal of children's remains being kept without consent for medical research..."
Does not include a brain cell ::)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2025, 06:27:45 PMSo even though you had and idea of what they said (or didn't say) you still made up your comments ;D
f**k me man! Give up
If they said fvck Islam and called the head of the Clonskeagh Mosque a cvnt can you imagine what an uproar there would be
But because these bell ends are Pro Palestine, anti Trump and open borders advocates no one is allowed criticize them
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 06:57:40 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2025, 06:27:45 PMSo even though you had and idea of what they said (or didn't say) you still made up your comments ;D
f**k me man! Give up
If they said fvck Islam and called the head of the Clonskeagh Mosque a cvnt can you imagine what an uproar there would be
But because these bell ends are Pro Palestine, anti Trump and open borders advocates no one is allowed criticize them
Now whataboutery ? Man, try and stick to facts ffs
A Trump/genocide supporter won't have any connection with facts.
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 06:57:40 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2025, 06:27:45 PMSo even though you had and idea of what they said (or didn't say) you still made up your comments ;D
f**k me man! Give up
If they said fvck Islam and called the head of the Clonskeagh Mosque a cvnt can you imagine what an uproar there would be
But because these bell ends are Pro Palestine, anti Trump and open borders advocates no one is allowed criticize them
Is because there is a truth to what they said. Catholic Church has traumatised their family and many many others...
By the way your US Pope is an absolute reprobate meeting and exchanging gifts President Herzog of Israel while they were carry out a genocide.
So everyone keeps changing the subject because no fair minded person could condone what was said
Not surprising at all
)The Mary Wallopers should be brought up on hate speech charges)
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 08:18:44 PMSo everyone keeps changing the subject because no fair minded person could condone what was said
Not surprising at all
)The Mary Wallopers should be brought up on hate speech charges)
How is outlining the behaviour of the Catholic Church changing the subject? It is putting into context what they said including how the Catholic Church traumatised their own family.
Wouldn't get throught the door of a court on basis of fair comment.
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 08:18:44 PMSo everyone keeps changing the subject because no fair minded person could condone what was said
Not surprising at all
)The Mary Wallopers should be brought up on hate speech charges)
No, you are the one who's making stuff . It's not surprising at all
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 06:14:48 PMFrom the Bunker posted an article from 3+ years ago
I'm talking about what they actually said last week
Here's what I read
"Catholic Arena
@CatholicArena
Ireland's new President Catherine Connolly is facing calls to distance herself from horrific sectarian remarks made at her rally for young voters in Dublin last week
Pop band The Mary Wallopers, who come from Protestant family backgrounds, blasted the 'f*cking Catholic Church' and 'all those c*nts'
Connolly spoke on the same stage but did not condemn or distance herself from the remarks"
I'm not seeing this reported on any reputable websites that are known for telling the truth
If that's in fact what they said, then they should absolutely should be called out
If thats what they said then they're 100% right and fair fucks to them..
Hell condemn musicians for expressing their views but no danger of "whitey" condemning the filth who tried to burn a building with 28 people in it.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 01, 2025, 11:16:53 PMHell condemn musicians for expressing their views but no danger of "whitey" condemning the filth who tried to burn a building with 28 people in it.
100% deflection
Quote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 06:14:48 PMFrom the Bunker posted an article from 3+ years ago
I'm talking about what they actually said last week
Here's what I read
"Catholic Arena
@CatholicArena
Ireland's new President Catherine Connolly is facing calls to distance herself from horrific sectarian remarks made at her rally for young voters in Dublin last week
Pop band The Mary Wallopers, who come from Protestant family backgrounds, blasted the 'f*cking Catholic Church' and 'all those c*nts'
Connolly spoke on the same stage but did not condemn or distance herself from the remarks"
I'm not seeing this reported on any reputable websites that are known for telling the truth
If that's in fact what they said, then they should absolutely should be called out
What the fck is Catholic Arena? and apart from yourself, who does give a fck what Catholic Arena has to say about anything in the social arena? Just guessing, but are they not (so called) christian evangelist intolerant bigots?
Quote from: Main Street on November 02, 2025, 01:25:29 AMQuote from: whitey on November 01, 2025, 06:14:48 PMFrom the Bunker posted an article from 3+ years ago
I'm talking about what they actually said last week
Here's what I read
"Catholic Arena
@CatholicArena
Ireland's new President Catherine Connolly is facing calls to distance herself from horrific sectarian remarks made at her rally for young voters in Dublin last week
Pop band The Mary Wallopers, who come from Protestant family backgrounds, blasted the 'f*cking Catholic Church' and 'all those c*nts'
Connolly spoke on the same stage but did not condemn or distance herself from the remarks"
I'm not seeing this reported on any reputable websites that are known for telling the truth
If that's in fact what they said, then they should absolutely should be called out
What the fck is Catholic Arena? and apart from yourself, who does give a fck what Catholic Arena has to say about anything in the social arena? Just guessing, but are they not (so called) christian evangelist intolerant bigots?
You've just proved my point
If a prominent "right winger" said "fvck Islam" and called the guy who heads up the Clonskeagh Mosque a "cvnt" while sharing the stage with the incoming Uachtarain na Heireann, just a week ago....it would be front page news and the leading story on the Six One News
Would it be worse than calling for a "total and complete" ban on a religion entering a country?
Their comments on the Catholic Church are fair. Why do you think the church are above criticism? What has you so exercised about what they have said?
Quote from: Hand of God on November 02, 2025, 08:09:09 AMTheir comments on the Catholic Church are fair. Why do you think the church are above criticism? What has you so exercised about what they have said?
Probably not great coming from Prods.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 08:32:37 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 02, 2025, 08:09:09 AMTheir comments on the Catholic Church are fair. Why do you think the church are above criticism? What has you so exercised about what they have said?
Probably not great coming from Prods.
Ok for 'us' to criticise the Catholic Church but any other religion can't
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 08:32:37 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 02, 2025, 08:09:09 AMTheir comments on the Catholic Church are fair. Why do you think the church are above criticism? What has you so exercised about what they have said?
Probably not great coming from Prods.
Hard to bate a bit of sectarianism of a Sunday morning. Their parents are in what you sectarian bigots know as a 'mixed marriage'..
Quote from: whitey on November 02, 2025, 12:22:36 AMQuote from: Rossfan on November 01, 2025, 11:16:53 PMHell condemn musicians for expressing their views but no danger of "whitey" condemning the filth who tried to burn a building with 28 people in it.
100% deflection
And still no condemnation
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 02, 2025, 10:41:02 AMQuote from: whitey on November 02, 2025, 12:22:36 AMQuote from: Rossfan on November 01, 2025, 11:16:53 PMHell condemn musicians for expressing their views but no danger of "whitey" condemning the filth who tried to burn a building with 28 people in it.
100% deflection
And still no condemnation
Textbook open borders strategy
Ignores my question and then deflects to change the subject
Quote from: whitey on November 02, 2025, 12:36:22 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on November 02, 2025, 10:41:02 AMQuote from: whitey on November 02, 2025, 12:22:36 AMQuote from: Rossfan on November 01, 2025, 11:16:53 PMHell condemn musicians for expressing their views but no danger of "whitey" condemning the filth who tried to burn a building with 28 people in it.
100% deflection
And still no condemnation
Textbook open borders strategy
Ignores my question and then deflects to change the subject
And still no condemnation.
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 02, 2025, 12:57:37 PMQuote from: whitey on November 02, 2025, 12:36:22 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on November 02, 2025, 10:41:02 AMQuote from: whitey on November 02, 2025, 12:22:36 AMQuote from: Rossfan on November 01, 2025, 11:16:53 PMHell condemn musicians for expressing their views but no danger of "whitey" condemning the filth who tried to burn a building with 28 people in it.
100% deflection
And still no condemnation
Textbook open borders strategy
Ignores my question and then deflects to change the subject
And still no condemnation.
They were brown people that could have been burned to death so he'll hardly care!
He/she really showing what a disgusting racist nazifascist anti christian he/she is.
Lol
This has been quite an experiment
Not one person has condemned the absolutely scandlous outburst by the Mary Wallopers.
Then A textbook open borders move to change the subject to entiely something else
And when i do exactly what you all are doing by not answering anquestion you lose your §hit
Mass stabbings - coming to a train near you.
These anti-nationalists won't be so smug then, eh?!
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 03:16:15 PMMass stabbings - coming to a train near you.
These anti-nationalists won't be so smug then, eh?!
British citizens were they jot?
Quote from: whitey on November 02, 2025, 03:11:46 PMLol
This has been quite an experiment
Not one person has condemned the absolutely scandlous outburst by the Mary Wallopers.
Then A textbook open borders move to change the subject to entiely something else
And when i do exactly what you all are doing by not answering anquestion you lose your §hit
Is the scandalous outburst in the room with us?
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 02, 2025, 03:41:25 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 03:16:15 PMMass stabbings - coming to a train near you.
These anti-nationalists won't be so smug then, eh?!
British citizens were they jot?
British indeed.
When the Huntingdon train stabbings took place, the facts were not yet known. In those first hours, confusion was understandable. What followed was not. Before police had confirmed anything, social media erupted with claims of terrorism, border failure and government betrayal. Verified accounts spoke of civil war, demanded mass deportations, and even called on Donald Trump and Elon Musk to sanction the United Kingdom. The speculation spread faster than any official statement.
As the night went on, details became clearer. Two British nationals, both born in the UK, were arrested. Police said there was nothing to suggest terrorism. Ten people were taken to hospital, nine with life-threatening injuries, after an assailant began stabbing passengers on a London-bound train. Witnesses described panic and bravery as others stepped in. None of this stopped the hysteria.
Far-right accounts carried on regardless. Hashtags accusing Keir Starmer of having "blood on his hands" trended across X, reaching hundreds of thousands of users. The same networks that spread lies during the Southport riots recycled their tactics, exploiting uncertainty to stir resentment. The truth was still emerging while others were already turning it into a political campaign.
This was never about the victims or the truth. It became a way to pour fuel on the lie that Islam is a threat to Britain and that immigration is a cause of violence. Those claims spread even after police confirmed the attackers were British. People were still in hospital while agitators used their suffering to justify prejudice and call for mass deportations. The violence in Huntingdon was horrific, but the attempt to use it to divide the country was a different kind of assault, one that continues every time hatred is rewarded with attention.
I firmly believe that unfiltered social media will be the downfall of our society.
There will be a something soon no doubt to feed their hate..
If fairness it took them a while to believe the Liverpool driver!
Quote from: whitey on November 02, 2025, 03:11:46 PMLol
This has been quite an experiment
Not one person has condemned the absolutely scandlous outburst by the Mary Wallopers.
Then A textbook open borders move to change the subject to entiely something else
And when i do exactly what you all are doing by not answering anquestion you lose your §hit
Need to change your tune KKK... has been explained by a number of people here that their comments were accurate. Why condemn that?
Quote from: seafoid on November 02, 2025, 03:56:38 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 02, 2025, 03:41:25 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 03:16:15 PMMass stabbings - coming to a train near you.
These anti-nationalists won't be so smug then, eh?!
British citizens were they jot?
British indeed.
Why would they have done it do you think ?
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2025, 04:19:03 PMQuote from: seafoid on November 02, 2025, 03:56:38 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 02, 2025, 03:41:25 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 03:16:15 PMMass stabbings - coming to a train near you.
These anti-nationalists won't be so smug then, eh?!
British citizens were they jot?
British indeed.
Why would they have done it do you think ?
British! Hah! Just like the Parnell Square stabber was Irish. Shows just how meaningless the label 'British' has become!
There was a triple stabbing in London last week also. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2lp7wx740go
Any thoughts for the victims yet?
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 04:29:16 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2025, 04:19:03 PMQuote from: seafoid on November 02, 2025, 03:56:38 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 02, 2025, 03:41:25 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 03:16:15 PMMass stabbings - coming to a train near you.
These anti-nationalists won't be so smug then, eh?!
British citizens were they jot?
British indeed.
Why would they have done it do you think ?
British! Hah! Just like the Parnell Square stabber was Irish. Shows just how meaningless the label 'British' has become!
Racist! Hah!
A few nasty individuals posting here sadly.
Seems an accelerant used to set the fire on the stairs so people couldn't get out.
Quote from: JoG2 on November 02, 2025, 04:57:58 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 04:29:16 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2025, 04:19:03 PMQuote from: seafoid on November 02, 2025, 03:56:38 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 02, 2025, 03:41:25 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 03:16:15 PMMass stabbings - coming to a train near you.
These anti-nationalists won't be so smug then, eh?!
British citizens were they jot?
British indeed.
Why would they have done it do you think ?
British! Hah! Just like the Parnell Square stabber was Irish. Shows just how meaningless the label 'British' has become!
Racist! Hah!
Ha ha! Is that best you can do?!!
But, keep 'em comin'.
What was the nationality of the 7/7 bombers ?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/02/foreign-sex-offenders-five-countries/
A quarter of jailed foreign sex offenders in the UK are from just five countries, according to the first analysis of prisoners' crimes by nationality.
Romania, Pakistan, Poland, Ireland and India account for 457 of the foreign sex offenders in prisons in England and Wales, according to Ministry of Justice (MoJ) data obtained through Freedom of Information laws by The Telegraph
Just fancy that.
Quote from: seafoid on November 02, 2025, 06:36:50 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/02/foreign-sex-offenders-five-countries/
A quarter of jailed foreign sex offenders in the UK are from just five countries, according to the first analysis of prisoners' crimes by nationality.
Romania, Pakistan, Poland, Ireland and India account for 457 of the foreign sex offenders in prisons in England and Wales, according to Ministry of Justice (MoJ) data obtained through Freedom of Information laws by The Telegraph
Just fancy that.
Aye but how Irish are they?
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/1102/1541711-drogheda-ipas-centre/
Quote from: Deerstalker on November 02, 2025, 06:32:39 PMWhat was the nationality of the 7/7 bombers ?
British!!
And the lad that stabbed the little girls in Southport?! Or the Manchester bomber?!
What constitutes someone from a country? Birth? That has to be the sole one of course.. if you were born in a country that's your place of birth?
Is there an argument to say no?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2025, 07:07:34 PMWhat constitutes someone from a country? Birth? That has to be the sole one of course.. if you were born in a country that's your place of birth?
Is there an argument to say no?
Being born somewhere doesn't make you 'of' that place. We had a referendum in 2004, and 80% agreed that just because you be born here, doesn't mean you are 'of' here. Funny how some people can't seem to remember that.
So how many generations does it need to be? Was that in the Ref?
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 06:28:53 PMQuote from: JoG2 on November 02, 2025, 04:57:58 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 04:29:16 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2025, 04:19:03 PMQuote from: seafoid on November 02, 2025, 03:56:38 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 02, 2025, 03:41:25 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 03:16:15 PMMass stabbings - coming to a train near you.
These anti-nationalists won't be so smug then, eh?!
British citizens were they jot?
British indeed.
Why would they have done it do you think ?
British! Hah! Just like the Parnell Square stabber was Irish. Shows just how meaningless the label 'British' has become!
Racist! Hah!
Ha ha! Is that best you can do?!!
But, keep 'em comin'.
An anonymous internet racist, I don't want to even try and downplay this, but well done, living the dream. 'here lies Mr Organ, a life well lived' (hopefully many many years away)
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 09:15:23 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2025, 07:07:34 PMWhat constitutes someone from a country? Birth? That has to be the sole one of course.. if you were born in a country that's your place of birth?
Is there an argument to say no?
Being born somewhere doesn't make you 'of' that place. We had a referendum in 2004, and 80% agreed that just because you be born here, doesn't mean you are 'of' here. Funny how some people can't seem to remember that.
Fckwittery again, an endless flow of. Probably you will get bored and distracted before the first sentence, seemingly the racist's prerogative.
Immigration and Citizenship in Ireland (https://childrensrights.ie/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/ImmigrationCitizenship_0.pdf)
Statistics from the three maternity hospitals show that the total number of non-EU
national women who arrived unannounced or at a late stage of pregnancy in 2003
was at most 548, or just under 2.4% of the total number of births at the three
maternity hospitals. This figure includes all non-nationals who arrived late or
unannounced at the Coombe, some of whom may have been EU nationals. Even
assuming that all of these women were non-EU nationals, the figure represents just under
2.4% of births in Dublin's maternity hospitals in 2003.
• It is not possible to assume that all of these women arrived in the state with the
sole intent of giving birth here. In 2003, a total of 174 Irish nationals also arrived
late or unannounced at two of the maternity hospitals (the Coombe and the National
Maternity Hospital), which indicates that there can be other reasons for late arrivals.
As I say, 80%. Quite convincing.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 02, 2025, 11:02:08 PMAs I say, 80%. Quite convincing.
I did ask, so how many generations is it ok to be 'born' here?
I've loads of examples, but if I can get your opinion then we can work out who's ok to stay and who should go..
Apologies about the source
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/new-republican-group-issues-warning-to-far-right-activists/a1228422494.html
Quote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 10:22:40 AMApologies about the source
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/new-republican-group-issues-warning-to-far-right-activists/a1228422494.html
Fair play :D
Will whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
Quote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
Why would anyone not condemn him??
Quote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
Open borders playbook 101
Ignore and deflect (to issues that have nothing whatsoever to do with immigration).
Quote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Im highly superstitious
Hes inviting all types of bad karma onto himself and his family
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Don't shoot the messenger😉
Ireland is experiencing economic migration and people should not come here if they know "deep down" they won't be granted international protection, Taoiseach Micheál Martin has said.
The Fianna Fáil leader was speaking after Tánaiste Simon Harris said that the number of people migrating to Ireland was "too high" and that it is taking too long for people with no right to be here to leave.
Asked about Mr Harris's comments, Mr Martin said "the levels of what we might call asylum-seeking has increased significantly since Covid, or before Covid".
"About 80 per cent are refused on their first stage of the appeal. And that's significant because it really points to what you're looking at here is economic migration, primarily, and basically people shouldn't come to Ireland if they know deep down that they're not going [to be granted asylum]."
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/30/simon-harris-accused-of-going-down-the-nigel-farage-route-over-immigration-comments/#:~:text=Ireland%20is%20experiencing,be%20granted%20asylum%5D.%E2%80%9D
You have to laugh how these lads talk in the 3rd person and as if this had only came to light in the last week.
Of course Europe hold the power in all this. The lads are no more than front men - to give a facade that they are running the country.
Ireland did not legally lose its sovereignty in 2010, but the country's need for an EU/IMF financial bailout led to a significant loss of economic and fiscal autonomy. The conditions attached to the bailout meant that outside bodies, collectively known as the "Troika" (the European Commission, the European Central Bank, and the International Monetary Fund), had a major say in Irish economic policy.
Another hero for the 2 bucks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41735730.html
Quote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 08:37:40 PMAnother hero for the 2 bucks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41735730.html
You do realise these articles are Directing you away from the real issues?
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 03, 2025, 08:45:03 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 08:37:40 PMAnother hero for the 2 bucks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41735730.html
You do realise these articles are Directing you away from the real issues?
He doesn't want to deal with the real issues.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 03, 2025, 08:48:34 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 03, 2025, 08:45:03 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 08:37:40 PMAnother hero for the 2 bucks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41735730.html
You do realise these articles are Directing you away from the real issues?
He doesn't want to deal with the real issues.
No, he thinks these are the real issues, but in the scheme of things these are just petty crimes.
It's not his fault - he depends on media that are controlled.
Years of abusing a child and being sentenced to 17 years is "pretty crime".
Good jases Bunker yer sonething else!!!
Another for the ignore list.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 09:04:13 PMYears of abusing a child and being sentenced to 17 years is "pretty crime".
Good jases Bunker yer sonething else!!!
Another for the ignore list.
To be fair it's a long time since I read any of the links you post. And I did not change the habit of a lifetime for that one. Please put me on the ignore. I'll be just another one of the many you chose to ignore.
Mehole and Simon are doing their best to be relevant. They haven't a f**king clue.
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 09:50:28 PMMehole and Simon are doing their best to be relevant. They haven't a f**king clue.
Ah, they have a clue. They're just pretending they don't.
Quote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 07:00:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Im highly superstitious
Hes inviting all types of bad karma onto himself and his family
This is the worst play book stuff from the far right..
Embarrassing!!
I'll try it.. I hope that all your family get hit by a bus
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:32:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 07:00:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Im highly superstitious
Hes inviting all types of bad karma onto himself and his family
This is the worst play book stuff from the far right..
Embarrassing!!
I'll try it.. I hope that all your family get hit by a bus
I think you should delete that comment.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 03, 2025, 10:40:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:32:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 07:00:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Im highly superstitious
Hes inviting all types of bad karma onto himself and his family
This is the worst play book stuff from the far right..
Embarrassing!!
I'll try it.. I hope that all your family get hit by a bus
I think you should delete that comment.
I'll delete it when he deletes his... unless it's too late and he can't as karma works?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:54:59 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 03, 2025, 10:40:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:32:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 07:00:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Im highly superstitious
Hes inviting all types of bad karma onto himself and his family
This is the worst play book stuff from the far right..
Embarrassing!!
I'll try it.. I hope that all your family get hit by a bus
I think you should delete that comment.
I'll delete it when he deletes his... unless it's too late and he can't as karma works?
Delete what
He's drawing bad karma onto himself by posting this nonsense and now so are you
So you hope me and my family get hit by a bus for believing that the government should enforce laws that they themselves passed. Wow....you should seriously seek professional help
And i take it you realize that the fraudulent claimants.....which make up 80% of all claimants according to Michael Martin....are diverting resources away from those who truly need them
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 03, 2025, 10:40:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:32:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 07:00:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Im highly superstitious
Hes inviting all types of bad karma onto himself and his family
This is the worst play book stuff from the far right..
Embarrassing!!
I'll try it.. I hope that all your family get hit by a bus
I think you should delete that comment.
There's your answer, he's doubled down on his Karma quote!
Hopefully not too many buses around where he lives
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:32:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 07:00:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Im highly superstitious
Hes inviting all types of bad karma onto himself and his family
This is the worst play book stuff from the far right..
Embarrassing!!
I'll try it.. I hope that all your family get hit by a bus
he will only mourn if the bus is from a different country
Quote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 11:31:30 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:54:59 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 03, 2025, 10:40:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:32:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 07:00:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Im highly superstitious
Hes inviting all types of bad karma onto himself and his family
This is the worst play book stuff from the far right..
Embarrassing!!
I'll try it.. I hope that all your family get hit by a bus
I think you should delete that comment.
I'll delete it when he deletes his... unless it's too late and he can't as karma works?
Delete what
He's drawing bad karma onto himself by posting this nonsense and now so are you
So you hope me and my family get hit by a bus for believing that the government should enforce laws that they themselves passed. Wow....you should seriously seek professional help
And i take it you realize that the fraudulent claimants.....which make up 80% of all claimants according to Michael Martin....are diverting resources away from those who truly need them
I will say it again, what training has Martin done to make such a claim? How many of these people has he interviewed?
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 04, 2025, 07:34:54 AMQuote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 11:31:30 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:54:59 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 03, 2025, 10:40:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:32:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 07:00:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Im highly superstitious
Hes inviting all types of bad karma onto himself and his family
This is the worst play book stuff from the far right..
Embarrassing!!
I'll try it.. I hope that all your family get hit by a bus
I think you should delete that comment.
I'll delete it when he deletes his... unless it's too late and he can't as karma works?
Delete what
He's drawing bad karma onto himself by posting this nonsense and now so are you
So you hope me and my family get hit by a bus for believing that the government should enforce laws that they themselves passed. Wow....you should seriously seek professional help
And i take it you realize that the fraudulent claimants.....which make up 80% of all claimants according to Michael Martin....are diverting resources away from those who truly need them
I will say it again, what training has Martin done to make such a claim? How many of these people has he interviewed?
Well the people who process these claims all work for him and get paid by him so i would assume his numbers are somewhat accurate
But as I always say....people believe whatever they want based on their agenda
(Just out of curiosity......whose mouth would you need to hear the stats from in order for you to believe them?)
I think you are mixing up fraudulent and refused. There was 74% rejected. Some of those were withdrawn or closed if claimant left the country.
It also includes ones that are going through appeal. They are protected by IPAT (International Protection Appeals Tribunal).
Those that are rejected will receive no benefits other than basic emergency support if they stay on. Imagine how bad things would have to be to want to proceed with that option.
That said. I don't think anyone would have an issue if the government started to handle the process better. Direct provision is not a long term solution. But the ire should 100% be targeted at the Irish government who are failing in their screening and not the 100's of asylum seekers who see DP as their best outcome.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 09:42:40 AMI think you are mixing up fraudulent and refused. There was 74% rejected. Some of those were withdrawn or closed if claimant left the country.
It also includes ones that are going through appeal. They are protected by IPAT (International Protection Appeals Tribunal).
Those that are rejected will receive no benefits other than basic emergency support if they stay on. Imagine how bad things would have to be to want to proceed with that option.
That said. I don't think anyone would have an issue if the government started to handle the process better. Direct provision is not a long term solution. But the ire should 100% be targeted at the Irish government who are failing in their screening and not the 100's of asylum seekers who see DP as their best outcome.
I dont think im mixing up anything
Im just quoting what Michael Martin said
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/30/simon-harris-accused-of-going-down-the-nigel-farage-route-over-immigration-comments/
"About 80 per cent are refused on their first stage of the appeal. And that's significant because it really points to what you're looking at here is economic migration, primarily, and basically people shouldn't come to Ireland if they know deep down that they're not going [to be granted asylum]
From RTE report
Minister O'Callaghan also said that over 3,870 deportation orders have been signed so far this year.
With c.14,000 applicants per year = just under 30% didn't qualify.
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:49:08 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 09:42:40 AMI think you are mixing up fraudulent and refused. There was 74% rejected. Some of those were withdrawn or closed if claimant left the country.
It also includes ones that are going through appeal. They are protected by IPAT (International Protection Appeals Tribunal).
Those that are rejected will receive no benefits other than basic emergency support if they stay on. Imagine how bad things would have to be to want to proceed with that option.
That said. I don't think anyone would have an issue if the government started to handle the process better. Direct provision is not a long term solution. But the ire should 100% be targeted at the Irish government who are failing in their screening and not the 100's of asylum seekers who see DP as their best outcome.
I dont think im mixing up anything
Im just quoting what Michael Martin said
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/30/simon-harris-accused-of-going-down-the-nigel-farage-route-over-immigration-comments/
"About 80 per cent are refused on their first stage of the appeal. And that's significant because it really points to what you're looking at here is economic migration, primarily, and basically people shouldn't come to Ireland if they know deep down that they're not going [to be granted asylum]
So if you come under false pretences and are refused, is that not a fraudulent application?
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:49:08 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 09:42:40 AMI think you are mixing up fraudulent and refused. There was 74% rejected. Some of those were withdrawn or closed if claimant left the country.
It also includes ones that are going through appeal. They are protected by IPAT (International Protection Appeals Tribunal).
Those that are rejected will receive no benefits other than basic emergency support if they stay on. Imagine how bad things would have to be to want to proceed with that option.
That said. I don't think anyone would have an issue if the government started to handle the process better. Direct provision is not a long term solution. But the ire should 100% be targeted at the Irish government who are failing in their screening and not the 100's of asylum seekers who see DP as their best outcome.
I dont think im mixing up anything
Im just quoting what Michael Martin said
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/30/simon-harris-accused-of-going-down-the-nigel-farage-route-over-immigration-comments/
"About 80 per cent are refused on their first stage of the appeal. And that's significant because it really points to what you're looking at here is economic migration, primarily, and basically people shouldn't come to Ireland if they know deep down that they're not going [to be granted asylum]
Sorry didn't mean you. I meant MM. rejected doesn't mean fraudulent.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2025, 09:50:12 AMFrom RTE report
Minister O'Callaghan also said that over 3,870 deportation orders have been signed so far this year.
With c.14,000 applicants per year = just under 30% didn't qualify.
Isn't that one of the main problems....were not deporting the people who went through and exhausted the legal process
Quote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 09:51:45 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:49:08 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 09:42:40 AMI think you are mixing up fraudulent and refused. There was 74% rejected. Some of those were withdrawn or closed if claimant left the country.
It also includes ones that are going through appeal. They are protected by IPAT (International Protection Appeals Tribunal).
Those that are rejected will receive no benefits other than basic emergency support if they stay on. Imagine how bad things would have to be to want to proceed with that option.
That said. I don't think anyone would have an issue if the government started to handle the process better. Direct provision is not a long term solution. But the ire should 100% be targeted at the Irish government who are failing in their screening and not the 100's of asylum seekers who see DP as their best outcome.
I dont think im mixing up anything
Im just quoting what Michael Martin said
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/30/simon-harris-accused-of-going-down-the-nigel-farage-route-over-immigration-comments/
"About 80 per cent are refused on their first stage of the appeal. And that's significant because it really points to what you're looking at here is economic migration, primarily, and basically people shouldn't come to Ireland if they know deep down that they're not going [to be granted asylum]
Sorry didn't mean you. I meant MM. rejected doesn't mean fraudulent.
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/01/27/ireland-saw-record-number-of-asylum-applicants-in-2024/
"Since November 2022, a total of 15 countries have been designated as safe countries of origin and citizens of those countries who apply for asylum are subject to an accelerated process whereby their applications are dealt with within a period of three months.
There has been a drop of almost 70 per cent in applications from designated safe countries following the introduction of those accelerated procedures"
So the governments mishandling and non/lax enforcement of their own laws has essentially encouraged people who are economic migrants to chance their arm
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:52:14 AMQuote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2025, 09:50:12 AMFrom RTE report
Minister O'Callaghan also said that over 3,870 deportation orders have been signed so far this year.
With c.14,000 applicants per year = just under 30% didn't qualify.
Isn't that one of the main problems....were not deporting the people who went through and exhausted the legal process
I think the point is that when people protest at the asylum seekers and burning down buildings that house them it's a complete misdirection of anger then. They're targeting the most vulnerable people who are going through enough hell themselves instead of the people responsible. Then when anyone on here points that out by calling these people out you have posters crying about "open borders".
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:55:37 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 09:51:45 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:49:08 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 09:42:40 AMI think you are mixing up fraudulent and refused. There was 74% rejected. Some of those were withdrawn or closed if claimant left the country.
It also includes ones that are going through appeal. They are protected by IPAT (International Protection Appeals Tribunal).
Those that are rejected will receive no benefits other than basic emergency support if they stay on. Imagine how bad things would have to be to want to proceed with that option.
That said. I don't think anyone would have an issue if the government started to handle the process better. Direct provision is not a long term solution. But the ire should 100% be targeted at the Irish government who are failing in their screening and not the 100's of asylum seekers who see DP as their best outcome.
I dont think im mixing up anything
Im just quoting what Michael Martin said
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/30/simon-harris-accused-of-going-down-the-nigel-farage-route-over-immigration-comments/
"About 80 per cent are refused on their first stage of the appeal. And that's significant because it really points to what you're looking at here is economic migration, primarily, and basically people shouldn't come to Ireland if they know deep down that they're not going [to be granted asylum]
Sorry didn't mean you. I meant MM. rejected doesn't mean fraudulent.
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/01/27/ireland-saw-record-number-of-asylum-applicants-in-2024/
"Since November 2022, a total of 15 countries have been designated as safe countries of origin and citizens of those countries who apply for asylum are subject to an accelerated process whereby their applications are dealt with within a period of three months.
There has been a drop of almost 70 per cent in applications from designated safe countries following the introduction of those accelerated procedures"
So the governments mishandling and non/lax enforcement of their own laws has essentially encouraged people who are economic migrants to chance their arm
I'm aware of this. But as I said rejected doesn't mean fraudulent. It included people who withdraw, people without the correct paperwork initially (Common enough when coming from a war torn country), people who leave the country and don't proceed.
I've said this for a long long time, why are they not protesting outside the politicians homes, where they live, go there with the pitch forks, go to the owners of the hotels that allow the place to be used for financial gain, they aint doing it out of their love for migrants..
Are they being paid off not to? The sheep will always follow the shepherd, and he keeps steering them to the hotels, would get a lot more traction outside the GOV buildings, homes of politicians (that ya all keep voting in) or the owners of these multiple buildings
Politicians' homes are private and should be left alone.
Has whitey and the other individual condemned the attempted murder of 28 people in Drogheda (incl a 3 week old baby) yet?
Quote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 10:01:11 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:52:14 AMQuote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2025, 09:50:12 AMFrom RTE report
Minister O'Callaghan also said that over 3,870 deportation orders have been signed so far this year.
With c.14,000 applicants per year = just under 30% didn't qualify.
Isn't that one of the main problems....were not deporting the people who went through and exhausted the legal process
I think the point is that when people protest at the asylum seekers and burning down buildings that house them it's a complete misdirection of anger then. They're targeting the most vulnerable people who are going through enough hell themselves instead of the people responsible. Then when anyone on here points that out by calling these people out you have posters crying about "open borders".
Not enforcing your own immigration laws, not deporting people who've exhausted all legal avenues and passively encouraging fraudulent applicants by not closing loopholes (that other EU countries have closed) is defacto open borders
Quote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2025, 11:06:37 AMPoliticians' homes are private and should be left alone.
Has whitey and the other individual condemned the attempted murder of 28 people in Drogheda (incl a 3 week old baby) yet?
They should all be, I'm just questioning why they haven't, I find it odd
There you go, demonstrated perfectly. As I said, condemning arson attacks of accommodation for asylum seekers is not calling for open borders.
What's a "closed border?"
Is it like North Korea?
Aren't most Countries' borders controlled, except for Britain's border in Ireland which our Government fought tooth and nail to keep open.
Controlled as in you get through them if you're re entering your own Country, or have a visa/work permit or residency permit OR are applying for International Protection.
The few times I flew into Dublin I had to show my passport which was scanned.
The Q at the non EU/UK/EEA/Switzerland was quite slow moving though.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 10:03:55 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:55:37 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 09:51:45 AMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:49:08 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 09:42:40 AMI think you are mixing up fraudulent and refused. There was 74% rejected. Some of those were withdrawn or closed if claimant left the country.
It also includes ones that are going through appeal. They are protected by IPAT (International Protection Appeals Tribunal).
Those that are rejected will receive no benefits other than basic emergency support if they stay on. Imagine how bad things would have to be to want to proceed with that option.
That said. I don't think anyone would have an issue if the government started to handle the process better. Direct provision is not a long term solution. But the ire should 100% be targeted at the Irish government who are failing in their screening and not the 100's of asylum seekers who see DP as their best outcome.
I dont think im mixing up anything
Im just quoting what Michael Martin said
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/30/simon-harris-accused-of-going-down-the-nigel-farage-route-over-immigration-comments/
"About 80 per cent are refused on their first stage of the appeal. And that's significant because it really points to what you're looking at here is economic migration, primarily, and basically people shouldn't come to Ireland if they know deep down that they're not going [to be granted asylum]
Sorry didn't mean you. I meant MM. rejected doesn't mean fraudulent.
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/01/27/ireland-saw-record-number-of-asylum-applicants-in-2024/
"Since November 2022, a total of 15 countries have been designated as safe countries of origin and citizens of those countries who apply for asylum are subject to an accelerated process whereby their applications are dealt with within a period of three months.
There has been a drop of almost 70 per cent in applications from designated safe countries following the introduction of those accelerated procedures"
So the governments mishandling and non/lax enforcement of their own laws has essentially encouraged people who are economic migrants to chance their arm
I'm aware of this. But as I said rejected doesn't mean fraudulent. It included people who withdraw, people without the correct paperwork initially (Common enough when coming from a war torn country), people who leave the country and don't proceed.
Look at what happened with Nigerian applications when a loophole was closed
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/10/12/number-of-nigerian-asylum-seekers-falls-dramatically-under-fast-track-system/
Why wait for thousands of people to pour in-close it up front
Quote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 11:32:32 AMThere you go, demonstrated perfectly. As I said, condemning arson attacks of accommodation for asylum seekers is not calling for open borders.
The people on here (me included) who want to help legitimate asylum seekers should be absolutely furious at the abuse that's being perpetrated by fraudulent asylum seekers. All this does is take resources away from those who genuinely need them and creates a lot of il will towards vulnerable people
Pointing out that abuse is rampant isn't some far right talking point-its simple reality and is backed up by both Simon Harris and Michael Martins comments this past week
Attempting to shut down any and all discussion by labeling people as far
Right who disagree with you is simply counter productive
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 12:05:43 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 11:32:32 AMThere you go, demonstrated perfectly. As I said, condemning arson attacks of accommodation for asylum seekers is not calling for open borders.
The people on here (me included) who want to help legitimate asylum seekers should be absolutely furious at the abuse that's being perpetrated by fraudulent asylum seekers. All this does is take resources away from those who genuinely need them and creates a lot of il will towards vulnerable people
Pointing out that abuse is rampant isn't some far right talking point-its simple reality and is backed up by both Simon Harris and Michael Martins comments this past week
Attempting to shut down any and all discussion by labeling people as far
Right who disagree with you is simply counter productive
As is labelling anyone who condemns the actions off knuckledraggers attacking and burning property as "open boarder apologists". You're trying to create a strawman argument.
I'd be interested to hear who on here doesn't want better, more streamlined processes that are both fair and humane and will removed those who have exhausted their options?
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:13:40 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on November 04, 2025, 07:34:54 AMQuote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 11:31:30 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:54:59 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 03, 2025, 10:40:28 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2025, 10:32:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 03, 2025, 07:00:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2025, 06:57:25 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2025, 05:36:02 PMWill whitey and th'other individual condemn this chap??
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1103/1541936-alec-goucher-court/
Or will the child protectors(sic) have a gathering in Wexford?
You'll be waiting a while on that boy giving a f**k. But its a bad look from you using a case like that to score points ffs.
Im highly superstitious
Hes inviting all types of bad karma onto himself and his family
This is the worst play book stuff from the far right..
Embarrassing!!
I'll try it.. I hope that all your family get hit by a bus
I think you should delete that comment.
I'll delete it when he deletes his... unless it's too late and he can't as karma works?
Delete what
He's drawing bad karma onto himself by posting this nonsense and now so are you
So you hope me and my family get hit by a bus for believing that the government should enforce laws that they themselves passed. Wow....you should seriously seek professional help
And i take it you realize that the fraudulent claimants.....which make up 80% of all claimants according to Michael Martin....are diverting resources away from those who truly need them
I will say it again, what training has Martin done to make such a claim? How many of these people has he interviewed?
Well the people who process these claims all work for him and get paid by him so i would assume his numbers are somewhat accurate
But as I always say....people believe whatever they want based on their agenda
(Just out of curiosity......whose mouth would you need to hear the stats from in order for you to believe them?)
I would be surprised if he is even remotely that close to them to know those stats
I have no agenda, I just know what it takes to be able to make decisions on these protection claims
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 12:05:43 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 11:32:32 AMThere you go, demonstrated perfectly. As I said, condemning arson attacks of accommodation for asylum seekers is not calling for open borders.
The people on here (me included) who want to help legitimate asylum seekers should be absolutely furious at the abuse that's being perpetrated by fraudulent asylum seekers. All this does is take resources away from those who genuinely need them and creates a lot of il will towards vulnerable people
Pointing out that abuse is rampant isn't some far right talking point-its simple reality and is backed up by both Simon Harris and Michael Martins comments this past week
Attempting to shut down any and all discussion by labeling people as far
Right who disagree with you is simply counter productive
so here is what MM said
"About 80 per cent are refused on their first stage of the appeal. And that's significant because it really points to what you're looking at here is economic migration, primarily, and basically people shouldn't come to Ireland if they know deep down that they're not going [to be granted asylum]
what does he mean by first stage of the appeal? When an asylum seeker gets refused they get an appeal. So is he saying that 80% of cases that go to appeal are refused at the first stage? If so then he is deliberately misleading people with that figure. Also, they can go to the next stage until they are appeals rights exhausted. How many get refused at that stage?
Or does he mean 80% of claims get refused first time? Again, they would then have appeals rights. How many refusals get overturned out of this 80%. Either way you look at it, this is a prime example of using a statistic to back up your argument
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving-country/asylum-seekers-and-refugees/the-asylum-process-in-ireland/applying-for-refugee-status-in-ireland/
Quote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 12:21:57 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 12:05:43 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 11:32:32 AMThere you go, demonstrated perfectly. As I said, condemning arson attacks of accommodation for asylum seekers is not calling for open borders.
The people on here (me included) who want to help legitimate asylum seekers should be absolutely furious at the abuse that's being perpetrated by fraudulent asylum seekers. All this does is take resources away from those who genuinely need them and creates a lot of il will towards vulnerable people
Pointing out that abuse is rampant isn't some far right talking point-its simple reality and is backed up by both Simon Harris and Michael Martins comments this past week
Attempting to shut down any and all discussion by labeling people as far
Right who disagree with you is simply counter productive
As is labelling anyone who condemns the actions off knuckledraggers attacking and burning property as "open boarder apologists". You're trying to create a strawman argument.
I'd be interested to hear who on here doesn't want better, more streamlined processes that are both fair and humane and will removed those who have exhausted their options?
100% incorrect
I have said that if your response to some tragic event (such as that involving the 10 year old) is not to condemn it, or even say the government needs to to better in enforcing their own laws, but to start pointing out crimes that Irish people committed and then ask me to condemn those people, then yes....100% you are an open borders apologist
Several posters on here seem unwilling or unable to acknowledge that massive fraud is taking place
So likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
We can take it that whitey and the other person support trying to murder 28 people (or 2,000 if they'd got into citywest) once the victims are black/brown skinned foreigners.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 03:34:17 PMSo likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
Who said I don't have sympathy or I don't condemn it
Just because I don't play certain posters game of constant deflection doesn't mean I don't condemn it
Their response to a grown man (who was ordered deported a year ago) allegedly raping a 10 year old girl is -look over here at what an Irish person did....condemn it or you're a racist
I see the fella who heroically intervened in the stabbings in England was an Algerian Muslim. Reform won't like that.
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 03:34:17 PMSo likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
Who said I don't have sympathy or I don't condemn it
Just because I don't play certain posters game of constant deflection doesn't mean I don't condemn it
Their response to a grown man (who was ordered deported a year ago) allegedly raping a 10 year old girl is -look over here at what an Irish person did....condemn it or you're a racist
My assumption is that they are pointing out that it was who committed the crime that was your issue and not the impact of the crime itself. I can certainly understand their reasoning if that is their thoughts (I didn't post anything regarding this, just to be clear. Point scoring on incidents like this isn't a good look)
With regards your sympathy or lack of it regarding the incidents against the asylum seekers, I don't recall you being vocal against in your condolences. Maybe you were and I missed it.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 05:30:15 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 03:34:17 PMSo likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
Who said I don't have sympathy or I don't condemn it
Just because I don't play certain posters game of constant deflection doesn't mean I don't condemn it
Their response to a grown man (who was ordered deported a year ago) allegedly raping a 10 year old girl is -look over here at what an Irish person did....condemn it or you're a racist
My assumption is that they are pointing out that it was who committed the crime that was your issue and not the impact of the crime itself. I can certainly understand their reasoning if that is their thoughts (I didn't post anything regarding this, just to be clear. Point scoring on incidents like this isn't a good look)
With regards your sympathy or lack of it regarding the incidents against the asylum seekers, I don't recall you being vocal against in your condolences. Maybe you were and I missed it.
My issue was/is that the person shouldn't have been in the country to begin with-he was ordered deported a year ago
Many's Peoples anger (mine anyways) has nothing to do with the persons race and everything to do with the government not enforcing its bloody laws and essentially enticing people to come here by allowing all theses loopholes to exist and being seen internationally as a soft touch
Attempted murder of 28 people is a "deflection"???
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 05:43:17 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 05:30:15 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 03:34:17 PMSo likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
Who said I don't have sympathy or I don't condemn it
Just because I don't play certain posters game of constant deflection doesn't mean I don't condemn it
Their response to a grown man (who was ordered deported a year ago) allegedly raping a 10 year old girl is -look over here at what an Irish person did....condemn it or you're a racist
My assumption is that they are pointing out that it was who committed the crime that was your issue and not the impact of the crime itself. I can certainly understand their reasoning if that is their thoughts (I didn't post anything regarding this, just to be clear. Point scoring on incidents like this isn't a good look)
With regards your sympathy or lack of it regarding the incidents against the asylum seekers, I don't recall you being vocal against in your condolences. Maybe you were and I missed it.
My issue was/is that the person shouldn't have been in the country to begin with-he was ordered deported a year ago
Many's Peoples anger (mine anyways) has nothing to do with the persons race and everything to do with the government not enforcing its bloody laws and essentially enticing people to come here by allowing all theses loopholes to exist and being seen internationally as a soft touch
Is that not the same with Britain?
You'd think when these people make their way across the Mediterranean from Sudan, Somalia or wherever, that once they reach Italy or Southern France , they'd think, right we've made it...let's claim asylum here.
The fact that they then make their way to northern France, then risk their lives on a dinghy to Britain, suggests Britain's system is a softer touch?
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 05:43:17 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 05:30:15 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 03:34:17 PMSo likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
Who said I don't have sympathy or I don't condemn it
Just because I don't play certain posters game of constant deflection doesn't mean I don't condemn it
Their response to a grown man (who was ordered deported a year ago) allegedly raping a 10 year old girl is -look over here at what an Irish person did....condemn it or you're a racist
My assumption is that they are pointing out that it was who committed the crime that was your issue and not the impact of the crime itself. I can certainly understand their reasoning if that is their thoughts (I didn't post anything regarding this, just to be clear. Point scoring on incidents like this isn't a good look)
With regards your sympathy or lack of it regarding the incidents against the asylum seekers, I don't recall you being vocal against in your condolences. Maybe you were and I missed it.
My issue was/is that the person shouldn't have been in the country to begin with-he was ordered deported a year ago
Many's Peoples anger (mine anyways) has nothing to do with the persons race and everything to do with the government not enforcing its bloody laws and essentially enticing people to come here by allowing all theses loopholes to exist and being seen internationally as a soft touch
I think we all get that's where your anger is. But I don't know anyone on here who's against tightening up of the administrative process? The reality is that it's a very messy process and dealing with very real people who through little fault of their own, other than the luck of where they're born, are have a very hard deal.
But targeting these people to make life harder by burning accommodation and threatening people is not the answer. In any shape or form.
2 more heroes of the right making the news today
Pig slicer Darren Jackson and McGregor supporting Councillor Sutcliffe.
https://www.ft.com/content/b7fde818-fe26-49f3-b109-d6fced89c130
Across much of Europe, voters are angry and disillusioned — and so swift to vote out incumbents. If the incumbents are the traditional centre parties, then the radical fringes will scoop up the votes. But when the far right actually makes it into government, then voters can swiftly become disillusioned — and turn back to centrist parties at the next opportunity.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2025, 06:09:53 PM2 more heroes of the right making the news today
Pig slicer Darren Jackson and McGregor supporting Councillor Sutcliffe.
(https://i.ibb.co/jPg7jk5Z/hq720.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rR4nX2tf)
Quote from: AustinPowers on November 04, 2025, 05:55:31 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 05:43:17 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 05:30:15 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 03:34:17 PMSo likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
Who said I don't have sympathy or I don't condemn it
Just because I don't play certain posters game of constant deflection doesn't mean I don't condemn it
Their response to a grown man (who was ordered deported a year ago) allegedly raping a 10 year old girl is -look over here at what an Irish person did....condemn it or you're a racist
My assumption is that they are pointing out that it was who committed the crime that was your issue and not the impact of the crime itself. I can certainly understand their reasoning if that is their thoughts (I didn't post anything regarding this, just to be clear. Point scoring on incidents like this isn't a good look)
With regards your sympathy or lack of it regarding the incidents against the asylum seekers, I don't recall you being vocal against in your condolences. Maybe you were and I missed it.
My issue was/is that the person shouldn't have been in the country to begin with-he was ordered deported a year ago
Many's Peoples anger (mine anyways) has nothing to do with the persons race and everything to do with the government not enforcing its bloody laws and essentially enticing people to come here by allowing all theses loopholes to exist and being seen internationally as a soft touch
Is that not the same with Britain?
You'd think when these people make their way across the Mediterranean from Sudan, Somalia or wherever, that once they reach Italy or Southern France , they'd think, right we've made it...let's claim asylum here.
The fact that they then make their way to northern France, then risk their lives on a dinghy to Britain, suggests Britain's system is a softer touch?
Not sure if England is a soft touch or the French are softer, there was a figure of:
Estimates for the number of undocumented immigrants in France vary, but a common range is between 300,000 and 400,000,
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:18:28 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on November 04, 2025, 05:55:31 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 05:43:17 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 05:30:15 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 03:34:17 PMSo likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
Who said I don't have sympathy or I don't condemn it
Just because I don't play certain posters game of constant deflection doesn't mean I don't condemn it
Their response to a grown man (who was ordered deported a year ago) allegedly raping a 10 year old girl is -look over here at what an Irish person did....condemn it or you're a racist
My assumption is that they are pointing out that it was who committed the crime that was your issue and not the impact of the crime itself. I can certainly understand their reasoning if that is their thoughts (I didn't post anything regarding this, just to be clear. Point scoring on incidents like this isn't a good look)
With regards your sympathy or lack of it regarding the incidents against the asylum seekers, I don't recall you being vocal against in your condolences. Maybe you were and I missed it.
My issue was/is that the person shouldn't have been in the country to begin with-he was ordered deported a year ago
Many's Peoples anger (mine anyways) has nothing to do with the persons race and everything to do with the government not enforcing its bloody laws and essentially enticing people to come here by allowing all theses loopholes to exist and being seen internationally as a soft touch
Is that not the same with Britain?
You'd think when these people make their way across the Mediterranean from Sudan, Somalia or wherever, that once they reach Italy or Southern France , they'd think, right we've made it...let's claim asylum here.
The fact that they then make their way to northern France, then risk their lives on a dinghy to Britain, suggests Britain's system is a softer touch?
Not sure if England is a soft touch or the French are softer, there was a figure of:
Estimates for the number of undocumented immigrants in France vary, but a common range is between 300,000 and 400,000,
So this begets the question
Are they truly fleeing persecution or are they simply economic migrants?
If you're in France you're obviously no longer being persecuted-so why take the trip across the channel?
And if you're in the UK )or anywhere in Europe for that matter), why take the trip to Ireland
Remember the Social Democrat candidate who was a failed asylum seeker from the UK, moved to Ireland....invented some cover story....and lo and behold was granted asylum in Ireland
Then went on vacation to the country she was "fleeing"
This coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 04, 2025, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2025, 06:09:53 PM2 more heroes of the right making the news today
Pig slicer Darren Jackson and McGregor supporting Councillor Sutcliffe.
(https://i.ibb.co/jPg7jk5Z/hq720.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rR4nX2tf)
I'm off down a side road here , but that film was one big pile of shite.
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 08:38:16 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:18:28 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on November 04, 2025, 05:55:31 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 05:43:17 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 05:30:15 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 03:34:17 PMSo likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
Who said I don't have sympathy or I don't condemn it
Just because I don't play certain posters game of constant deflection doesn't mean I don't condemn it
Their response to a grown man (who was ordered deported a year ago) allegedly raping a 10 year old girl is -look over here at what an Irish person did....condemn it or you're a racist
My assumption is that they are pointing out that it was who committed the crime that was your issue and not the impact of the crime itself. I can certainly understand their reasoning if that is their thoughts (I didn't post anything regarding this, just to be clear. Point scoring on incidents like this isn't a good look)
With regards your sympathy or lack of it regarding the incidents against the asylum seekers, I don't recall you being vocal against in your condolences. Maybe you were and I missed it.
My issue was/is that the person shouldn't have been in the country to begin with-he was ordered deported a year ago
Many's Peoples anger (mine anyways) has nothing to do with the persons race and everything to do with the government not enforcing its bloody laws and essentially enticing people to come here by allowing all theses loopholes to exist and being seen internationally as a soft touch
Is that not the same with Britain?
You'd think when these people make their way across the Mediterranean from Sudan, Somalia or wherever, that once they reach Italy or Southern France , they'd think, right we've made it...let's claim asylum here.
The fact that they then make their way to northern France, then risk their lives on a dinghy to Britain, suggests Britain's system is a softer touch?
Not sure if England is a soft touch or the French are softer, there was a figure of:
Estimates for the number of undocumented immigrants in France vary, but a common range is between 300,000 and 400,000,
So this begets the question
Are they truly fleeing persecution or are they simply economic migrants?
If you're in France you're obviously no longer being persecuted-so why take the trip across the channel?
And if you're in the UK )or anywhere in Europe for that matter), why take the trip to Ireland
Remember the Social Democrat candidate who was a failed asylum seeker from the UK, moved to Ireland....invented some cover story....and lo and behold was granted asylum in Ireland
Then went on vacation to the country she was "fleeing"
Or the ones that suddenly convert to Christianity to support their asylum case
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
This may be true, but the scale at which it's happening is unprecedented. Remember, more people have moved here in the last 25 years, than moved here during the plantations. But that was a great boon to this country, so let's have more of it!
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 04, 2025, 09:03:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
This may be true, but the scale at which it's happening is unprecedented. Remember, more people have moved here in the last 25 years, than moved here during the plantations. But that was a great boon to this country, so let's have more of it!
People still leaving here also, but some people prefer to put up the walls get all darker skinned ones out as they ain't actually Irish regardless they be born here, with that not allowed to leave as ya can't have your cake and eat it!
Speed up the processing get them legal (or not, send them home) and get them working legally and that raises the taxes builds economy.
Keep it under review for 3 years and should they been working then they can have a full time citizenship.. break any laws then they go back..
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 04, 2025, 09:03:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
This may be true, but the scale at which it's happening is unprecedented. Remember, more people have moved here in the last 25 years, than moved here during the plantations. But that was a great boon to this country, so let's have more of it!
The population during the plantations was about 1 million.
Now it is 7.2 million.
You are an absolute weapon. 🤣
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
Wow
You are essentially advocating for open borders right there.
So if a rapist/criminal/fraudster can't legally enter Ireland but disguises their identity and lies through their teeth then that's fine with you as long as they can pull a fast one on border control.....
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 04, 2025, 09:03:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
This may be true, but the scale at which it's happening is unprecedented. Remember, more people have moved here in the last 25 years, than moved here during the plantations. But that was a great boon to this country, so let's have more of it!
And you have more in common with the planters
Quote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:35:21 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
Wow
You are essentially advocating for open borders right there.
So if a rapist/criminal/fraudster can't legally enter Ireland but disguises their identity and lies through their teeth then that's fine with you as long as they can pull a fast one on border control.....
Are you a rapist criminal fraudster?
You've been listening to Trump too long, not everyone coming here are either of those..
Your eyes are blackened by colour bias and what brain you have left is covered in shit!
If I was born in Syria I'm getting the f**k outta dodge!
It is then ( I'll explain it again for the most stupid person on this board) up to the border control officer to process..
Let that happen, shut the f**k up and have your hotdog!
The doomsday cult! I'm surprised ya all can sleep at night
Quote from: JoG2 on November 04, 2025, 09:48:51 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 04, 2025, 09:03:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
This may be true, but the scale at which it's happening is unprecedented. Remember, more people have moved here in the last 25 years, than moved here during the plantations. But that was a great boon to this country, so let's have more of it!
And you have more in common with the planters
Nothing wrong with that, eh? The more the merrier, no?
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 04, 2025, 10:30:30 PMQuote from: JoG2 on November 04, 2025, 09:48:51 PMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 04, 2025, 09:03:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
This may be true, but the scale at which it's happening is unprecedented. Remember, more people have moved here in the last 25 years, than moved here during the plantations. But that was a great boon to this country, so let's have more of it!
And you have more in common with the planters
Nothing wrong with that, eh? The more the merrier, no?
Where did they house you first?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
It is the volume of migration that is the problem. If migration is using up all the new housing supply then that is too much.
Quote from: armaghniac on November 04, 2025, 10:56:22 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
It is the volume of migration that is the problem. If migration is using up all the new housing supply then that is too much.
And that's the key, organising all the extras that come with that..
The government allowed it and haven't the means to fix it..
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 10:24:32 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 09:35:21 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
Wow
You are essentially advocating for open borders right there.
So if a rapist/criminal/fraudster can't legally enter Ireland but disguises their identity and lies through their teeth then that's fine with you as long as they can pull a fast one on border control.....
Are you a rapist criminal fraudster?
You've been listening to Trump too long, not everyone coming here are either of those..
Your eyes are blackened by colour bias and what brain you have left is covered in shit!
If I was born in Syria I'm getting the f**k outta dodge!
It is then ( I'll explain it again for the most stupid person on this board) up to the border control officer to process..
Let that happen, shut the f**k up and have your hotdog!
The doomsday cult! I'm surprised ya all can sleep at night
Will ya calm down
Ask Rossfan how much trouble the Syrians caused in Ballaghaderern.....
I believe the answer was ZERO
They were legitimate and vetted asylum seekers that went through a very thorough process.
On the other hand you'd welcome every chancer coming from God knows where, (even those with a couple of failed asylum applications under their belts) taking away resources from people like that who are actually fleeing war and oppression
But anyways it's one heck of a mess the government has created
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 11:07:18 PMQuote from: armaghniac on November 04, 2025, 10:56:22 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
It is the volume of migration that is the problem. If migration is using up all the new housing supply then that is too much.
And that's the key, organising all the extras that come with that..
The government allowed it and haven't the means to fix it..
They can reduce the number until they have fixed it.
Quote from: armaghniac on November 04, 2025, 11:16:59 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 11:07:18 PMQuote from: armaghniac on November 04, 2025, 10:56:22 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2025, 08:49:14 PMThis coming from a social migrant!
I've absolutely no problems with anyone trying to better themselves in a country that has better than their own, if they want to invent reasons for that then that's on border control to shift through.
Unless you have read every report or interviewed them personally then I'll take the word of those who have, rather than your ramblings
Immigration be it illegally or legally has been happened for hundreds of years and migration since time began
Some countries will give anyone a visa or citizenship, you being case and point so I wouldn't concern yourself too much
It is the volume of migration that is the problem. If migration is using up all the new housing supply then that is too much.
And that's the key, organising all the extras that come with that..
The government allowed it and haven't the means to fix it..
They can reduce the number until they have fixed it.
Gates open.. they need to employ more staff and close the loopholes. Proceed, keep or deport..
It's not as easy as it takes to write a post though, the empty heads though believe it's just as easy as that.
Do they ask the questions of how that side of things is going?
They'd have a Guantánamo Bay set up somewhere and caged them in
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736036.html
Quote from: AustinPowers on November 04, 2025, 05:55:31 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 05:43:17 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 05:30:15 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 03:34:17 PMSo likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
Who said I don't have sympathy or I don't condemn it
Just because I don't play certain posters game of constant deflection doesn't mean I don't condemn it
Their response to a grown man (who was ordered deported a year ago) allegedly raping a 10 year old girl is -look over here at what an Irish person did....condemn it or you're a racist
My assumption is that they are pointing out that it was who committed the crime that was your issue and not the impact of the crime itself. I can certainly understand their reasoning if that is their thoughts (I didn't post anything regarding this, just to be clear. Point scoring on incidents like this isn't a good look)
With regards your sympathy or lack of it regarding the incidents against the asylum seekers, I don't recall you being vocal against in your condolences. Maybe you were and I missed it.
My issue was/is that the person shouldn't have been in the country to begin with-he was ordered deported a year ago
Many's Peoples anger (mine anyways) has nothing to do with the persons race and everything to do with the government not enforcing its bloody laws and essentially enticing people to come here by allowing all theses loopholes to exist and being seen internationally as a soft touch
Is that not the same with Britain?
You'd think when these people make their way across the Mediterranean from Sudan, Somalia or wherever, that once they reach Italy or Southern France , they'd think, right we've made it...let's claim asylum here.
The fact that they then make their way to northern France, then risk their lives on a dinghy to Britain, suggests Britain's system is a softer touch?
My understanding is it is easier to dissappear into the grey in Britain. You can work, open a bank account, rent a house, pay utilities, run a car etc without a national insurance number. You simply can't do that in France.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 05, 2025, 01:36:10 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on November 04, 2025, 05:55:31 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 05:43:17 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 05:30:15 PMQuote from: whitey on November 04, 2025, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on November 04, 2025, 03:34:17 PMSo likewise if your hearing about properties being burned out and people threatened or attacked and your reaction isn't sympathy for the people involved but rather trying to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it then your kinda showing yourself up as well. It's the same principle.
Who said I don't have sympathy or I don't condemn it
Just because I don't play certain posters game of constant deflection doesn't mean I don't condemn it
Their response to a grown man (who was ordered deported a year ago) allegedly raping a 10 year old girl is -look over here at what an Irish person did....condemn it or you're a racist
My assumption is that they are pointing out that it was who committed the crime that was your issue and not the impact of the crime itself. I can certainly understand their reasoning if that is their thoughts (I didn't post anything regarding this, just to be clear. Point scoring on incidents like this isn't a good look)
With regards your sympathy or lack of it regarding the incidents against the asylum seekers, I don't recall you being vocal against in your condolences. Maybe you were and I missed it.
My issue was/is that the person shouldn't have been in the country to begin with-he was ordered deported a year ago
Many's Peoples anger (mine anyways) has nothing to do with the persons race and everything to do with the government not enforcing its bloody laws and essentially enticing people to come here by allowing all theses loopholes to exist and being seen internationally as a soft touch
Is that not the same with Britain?
You'd think when these people make their way across the Mediterranean from Sudan, Somalia or wherever, that once they reach Italy or Southern France , they'd think, right we've made it...let's claim asylum here.
The fact that they then make their way to northern France, then risk their lives on a dinghy to Britain, suggests Britain's system is a softer touch?
My understanding is it is easier to dissappear into the grey in Britain. You can work, open a bank account, rent a house, pay utilities, run a car etc without a national insurance number. You simply can't do that in France.
There's over 300 thousand in past 15 years have made it their home in France though.. what would be the uk figures
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2025, 07:23:41 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 05, 2025, 01:36:10 AMMy understanding is it is easier to dissappear into the grey in Britain. You can work, open a bank account, rent a house, pay utilities, run a car etc without a national insurance number. You simply can't do that in France.
There's over 300 thousand in past 15 years have made it their home in France though.. what would be the uk figures
Over a million undocumented in Britain. And I've seen estimates of way more than that. One million is conservative.
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 05, 2025, 08:21:22 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2025, 07:23:41 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 05, 2025, 01:36:10 AMMy understanding is it is easier to dissappear into the grey in Britain. You can work, open a bank account, rent a house, pay utilities, run a car etc without a national insurance number. You simply can't do that in France.
There's over 300 thousand in past 15 years have made it their home in France though.. what would be the uk figures
Over a million undocumented in Britain. And I've seen estimates of way more than that. One million is conservative.
So Brexit had the desired effect! NHS In worst state and controlling the borders in worst position than when in the EU
Would there be ones in the south looking to exit the EU also?
Just on the topic of migrants illegally, this was the top story on the bbc website yesyerday
Crime network behind UK mini-marts is enabling migrants to work illegally, BBC finds
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mx99ple17o
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2025, 08:50:18 AMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 05, 2025, 08:21:22 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2025, 07:23:41 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 05, 2025, 01:36:10 AMMy understanding is it is easier to dissappear into the grey in Britain. You can work, open a bank account, rent a house, pay utilities, run a car etc without a national insurance number. You simply can't do that in France.
There's over 300 thousand in past 15 years have made it their home in France though.. what would be the uk figures
Over a million undocumented in Britain. And I've seen estimates of way more than that. One million is conservative.
So Brexit had the desired effect! NHS In worst state and controlling the borders in worst position than when in the EU
Would there be ones in the south looking to exit the EU also?
The 2% nazifascist ones plus maybe 10% at most of more normal humans.
We are not leaving the EU or the CTA with GB, or sealing the border between 6 and 26.
Without re checking nett immigration was around 140,000 last year.
Around 10% of those were IP seekers.
I wonder are there many jobs going unfilled because people can't get accomodation or affordable accomodation?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2025, 08:50:18 AMQuote from: Genocide Organ on November 05, 2025, 08:21:22 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2025, 07:23:41 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 05, 2025, 01:36:10 AMMy understanding is it is easier to dissappear into the grey in Britain. You can work, open a bank account, rent a house, pay utilities, run a car etc without a national insurance number. You simply can't do that in France.
There's over 300 thousand in past 15 years have made it their home in France though.. what would be the uk figures
Over a million undocumented in Britain. And I've seen estimates of way more than that. One million is conservative.
So Brexit had the desired effect! NHS In worst state and controlling the borders in worst position than when in the EU
Would there be ones in the south looking to exit the EU also?
Yeah, as if the EU is great at controlling borders. For sure, successive UK governments have been pathetic at it, but would they have been any better if they were in the EU?
Would love to see Reform's approach in reality. I don't think for a second the numbers will go down nor will the economy grow, but the voters are too thick to care so I hope they get in..
It's unprecedented times with regards to modern migration around the world
BTW I think Reform are a bunch of horrible cnuts but the UK deserve that, then I wonder who'll they'll blame next
Hope whitey is OK after that NY election result ::)
Quote from: Rossfan on November 05, 2025, 03:25:33 PMHope whitey is OK after that NY election result ::)
I think it's fantastic
I actually like disruptors
Only thing is if he falls flat on his face that will give the Republicans a huge tailwind for 2026
Quote from: whitey on November 05, 2025, 04:40:39 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 05, 2025, 03:25:33 PMHope whitey is OK after that NY election result ::)
I think it's fantastic
I actually like disruptors
Only thing is if he falls flat on his face that will give the Republicans a huge tailwind for 2026
You hope .. your apparent new found open mind is less than believable.
Not economic migrants though ???
Crime fixer caught by BBC offering to erase £60K fines on migrant workers
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3kevkl3pdo
" Loose regulation of Britian's labour market is acting as a pull factor for those entering the UK illegally, the government has acknowledged."
From D'Examiner
Gardaí have arrested two men on suspicion of membership of a violent right-wing extremist organisation.
The arrest follows the discovery of four suspect devices across the border in Annalong, Co Down, by the PSNI.
The discovery and arrest have been seen as a significant, but not unexpected, development in Garda Headquarters, given the deteriorating climate of hatred and violence from the far right towards asylum seekers and foreigners.
The two men, aged in their 40s and 30s, were arrested following a major surveillance operation by Garda security services, working in conjunction with the PSNI.
They were arrested by the Special Detective Unit (SDU) — the force's operational anti-terrorism unit — following a vehicle stop in Co Laois on Wednesday.
They are being detained on suspicion of membership of an unlawful organisation under the Offences Against the State Act 1939.
This suggests the two men are suspected of being part of an actual organisation, believed to be a relatively new violent far-right extremist organisation.
The numbers in the organisation are understood to be small.
PSNI officers recovered four suspected improvised devices at the scene in a search carried out on Wednesday night. During the operation, a number of local residents were evacuated from their houses, and they have since returned to their homes.
It is understood that the Garda National Crime & Security Intelligence Service has been putting additional resources into preventing and investigating the possible emergence of a violent far-right organisation in Ireland.
Various units, including the SDU, have been on a heightened "state of alert" for such a development, not least given the escalation of violence and arson attacks directed at asylum seekers.
One of the lines of inquiry is to establish the possible intended use of the suspected IED and whether or not asylum accommodation could have been targeted.
Digital devices linked to the two men arrested are currently being examined.
Garda National Crime & Security Intelligence Service Assistant Commissioner Michael McElgunn said: "An Garda Síochána is committed to identifying, assessing and countering security threats to our communities.
"This ongoing operation demonstrates the close working relationships An Garda Síochána has with our colleagues in the Police Service of Northern Ireland to investigate and interdict threats across the island of Ireland, keeping people safe."
Meanwhile, the Irish Examiner understands that the SDU are supporting the investigation into the arson attack on an Ipas centre in Drogheda.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 06, 2025, 04:45:37 PMFrom D'Examiner
Gardaí have arrested two men on suspicion of membership of a violent right-wing extremist organisation.
The arrest follows the discovery of four suspect devices across the border in Annalong, Co Down, by the PSNI.
The discovery and arrest have been seen as a significant, but not unexpected, development in Garda Headquarters, given the deteriorating climate of hatred and violence from the far right towards asylum seekers and foreigners.
The two men, aged in their 40s and 30s, were arrested following a major surveillance operation by Garda security services, working in conjunction with the PSNI.
They were arrested by the Special Detective Unit (SDU) — the force's operational anti-terrorism unit — following a vehicle stop in Co Laois on Wednesday.
They are being detained on suspicion of membership of an unlawful organisation under the Offences Against the State Act 1939.
This suggests the two men are suspected of being part of an actual organisation, believed to be a relatively new violent far-right extremist organisation.
The numbers in the organisation are understood to be small.
PSNI officers recovered four suspected improvised devices at the scene in a search carried out on Wednesday night. During the operation, a number of local residents were evacuated from their houses, and they have since returned to their homes.
It is understood that the Garda National Crime & Security Intelligence Service has been putting additional resources into preventing and investigating the possible emergence of a violent far-right organisation in Ireland.
Various units, including the SDU, have been on a heightened "state of alert" for such a development, not least given the escalation of violence and arson attacks directed at asylum seekers.
One of the lines of inquiry is to establish the possible intended use of the suspected IED and whether or not asylum accommodation could have been targeted.
Digital devices linked to the two men arrested are currently being examined.
Garda National Crime & Security Intelligence Service Assistant Commissioner Michael McElgunn said: "An Garda Síochána is committed to identifying, assessing and countering security threats to our communities.
"This ongoing operation demonstrates the close working relationships An Garda Síochána has with our colleagues in the Police Service of Northern Ireland to investigate and interdict threats across the island of Ireland, keeping people safe."
Meanwhile, the Irish Examiner understands that the SDU are supporting the investigation into the arson attack on an Ipas centre in Drogheda.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 06, 2025, 04:45:37 PMFrom D'Examiner
Gardaí have arrested two men on suspicion of membership of a violent right-wing extremist organisation.
The arrest follows the discovery of four suspect devices across the border in Annalong, Co Down, by the PSNI.
The discovery and arrest have been seen as a significant, but not unexpected, development in Garda Headquarters, given the deteriorating climate of hatred and violence from the far right towards asylum seekers and foreigners.
The two men, aged in their 40s and 30s, were arrested following a major surveillance operation by Garda security services, working in conjunction with the PSNI.
They were arrested by the Special Detective Unit (SDU) — the force's operational anti-terrorism unit — following a vehicle stop in Co Laois on Wednesday.
They are being detained on suspicion of membership of an unlawful organisation under the Offences Against the State Act 1939.
This suggests the two men are suspected of being part of an actual organisation, believed to be a relatively new violent far-right extremist organisation.
The numbers in the organisation are understood to be small.
PSNI officers recovered four suspected improvised devices at the scene in a search carried out on Wednesday night. During the operation, a number of local residents were evacuated from their houses, and they have since returned to their homes.
It is understood that the Garda National Crime & Security Intelligence Service has been putting additional resources into preventing and investigating the possible emergence of a violent far-right organisation in Ireland.
Various units, including the SDU, have been on a heightened "state of alert" for such a development, not least given the escalation of violence and arson attacks directed at asylum seekers.
One of the lines of inquiry is to establish the possible intended use of the suspected IED and whether or not asylum accommodation could have been targeted.
Digital devices linked to the two men arrested are currently being examined.
Garda National Crime & Security Intelligence Service Assistant Commissioner Michael McElgunn said: "An Garda Síochána is committed to identifying, assessing and countering security threats to our communities.
"This ongoing operation demonstrates the close working relationships An Garda Síochána has with our colleagues in the Police Service of Northern Ireland to investigate and interdict threats across the island of Ireland, keeping people safe."
Meanwhile, the Irish Examiner understands that the SDU are supporting the investigation into the arson attack on an Ipas centre in Drogheda.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 06, 2025, 04:45:37 PMFrom D'Examiner
Gardaí have arrested two men on suspicion of membership of a violent right-wing extremist organisation.
The arrest follows the discovery of four suspect devices across the border in Annalong, Co Down, by the PSNI.
The discovery and arrest have been seen as a significant, but not unexpected, development in Garda Headquarters, given the deteriorating climate of hatred and violence from the far right towards asylum seekers and foreigners.
The two men, aged in their 40s and 30s, were arrested following a major surveillance operation by Garda security services, working in conjunction with the PSNI.
They were arrested by the Special Detective Unit (SDU) — the force's operational anti-terrorism unit — following a vehicle stop in Co Laois on Wednesday.
They are being detained on suspicion of membership of an unlawful organisation under the Offences Against the State Act 1939.
This suggests the two men are suspected of being part of an actual organisation, believed to be a relatively new violent far-right extremist organisation.
The numbers in the organisation are understood to be small.
PSNI officers recovered four suspected improvised devices at the scene in a search carried out on Wednesday night. During the operation, a number of local residents were evacuated from their houses, and they have since returned to their homes.
It is understood that the Garda National Crime & Security Intelligence Service has been putting additional resources into preventing and investigating the possible emergence of a violent far-right organisation in Ireland.
Various units, including the SDU, have been on a heightened "state of alert" for such a development, not least given the escalation of violence and arson attacks directed at asylum seekers.
One of the lines of inquiry is to establish the possible intended use of the suspected IED and whether or not asylum accommodation could have been targeted.
Digital devices linked to the two men arrested are currently being examined.
Garda National Crime & Security Intelligence Service Assistant Commissioner Michael McElgunn said: "An Garda Síochána is committed to identifying, assessing and countering security threats to our communities.
"This ongoing operation demonstrates the close working relationships An Garda Síochána has with our colleagues in the Police Service of Northern Ireland to investigate and interdict threats across the island of Ireland, keeping people safe."
Meanwhile, the Irish Examiner understands that the SDU are supporting the investigation into the arson attack on an Ipas centre in Drogheda.
Well done to the SDU and good work crossborder. I wonder how many more are out there.
Reports one of them from "Central Europe".
Meanwhile 2 more heroes allegedly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/1106/1542624-drogheda-fire-court/
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 09:38:55 AMReports one of them from "Central Europe".
Meanwhile 2 more heroes allegedly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/1106/1542624-drogheda-fire-court/
This can't just be another story... 2 men setting fire to a property with children inside. That is f**king grim beyond belief, and absolutely disgusting. If guilty, the book needs thrown at them. Garda looking for additional charges, surely attempted murder (of children inc a baby)... Sick bastards
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 05, 2025, 08:57:13 PMQuote from: whitey on November 05, 2025, 04:40:39 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 05, 2025, 03:25:33 PMHope whitey is OK after that NY election result ::)
I think it's fantastic
I actually like disruptors
Only thing is if he falls flat on his face that will give the Republicans a huge tailwind for 2026
You hope .. your apparent new found open mind is less than believable.
So anyways I was speaking with one of the young people who work in our NYC office
Lives out in Brooklyn....huge Mamdani supporter
So I brought up the fact that he doesn't have the ability to do a fraction of the things he promised during the campaign
She responded that if Kathy Hochul didn't row in behind him and his agenda, then they were going to primary her and elect a governor who would
Do most politicians deliver on their promises? Be a first
Quote from: JoG2 on November 07, 2025, 10:26:21 AMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 09:38:55 AMReports one of them from "Central Europe".
Meanwhile 2 more heroes allegedly
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/1106/1542624-drogheda-fire-court/
This can't just be another story... 2 men setting fire to a property with children inside. That is f**king grim beyond belief, and absolutely disgusting. If guilty, the book needs thrown at them. Garda looking for additional charges, surely attempted murder (of children inc a baby)... Sick bastards
As is most likely the so-called far right 'patriots'... that was carried out by our 'Irish' KKK... cheered on from their castles by millionaires and billionaires likes of McGregor, Musk, Trump, Farage, Robinson (though not sure his financial status). People are so gullible listening to those maggots.
Notice how whitey ignores the posts about dangerous right wing extremists?
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 11:18:15 AMNotice how whitey ignores the posts about dangerous right wing extremists?
I wouldn't pay much heed to Whitey. A walking contradiction. Claimed its 'fantastic' that Mamdani got elected in New York. Can't imagine he says that to the lads on his nite out... 😆
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 11:18:15 AMNotice how whitey ignores the posts about dangerous right wing extremists?
Notice how Rossfan ignores the posts about dangerous unvetted migrant rapists?
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 07, 2025, 12:09:09 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 11:18:15 AMNotice how whitey ignores the posts about dangerous right wing extremists?
I wouldn't pay much heed to Whitey. A walking contradiction. Claimed its 'fantastic' that Mamdani got elected in New York. Can't imagine he says that to the lads on his nite out... 😆
It's is fantastic
Mamdani is just the left wing version of Trump-he's a disruptor. The system is broken and he's come up with some radical solutions.
Just because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I think they're wrong about everything.
If he's wrong about most things, which I think he is, then it's a huge advantage to Republicans in the mid terms
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 12:18:55 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 07, 2025, 12:09:09 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 11:18:15 AMNotice how whitey ignores the posts about dangerous right wing extremists?
I wouldn't pay much heed to Whitey. A walking contradiction. Claimed its 'fantastic' that Mamdani got elected in New York. Can't imagine he says that to the lads on his nite out... 😆
It's is fantastic
Mamdani is just the left wing version of Trump-he's a disruptor. The system is broken and he's come up with some radical solutions.
Just because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I think they're wrong about everything.
If he's wrong about most things, which I think he is, then it's a huge advantage to Republicans in the mid terms
Can't make head or tail of that logic... #twisted
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 07, 2025, 12:23:22 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 12:18:55 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 07, 2025, 12:09:09 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 11:18:15 AMNotice how whitey ignores the posts about dangerous right wing extremists?
I wouldn't pay much heed to Whitey. A walking contradiction. Claimed its 'fantastic' that Mamdani got elected in New York. Can't imagine he says that to the lads on his nite out... 😆
It's is fantastic
Mamdani is just the left wing version of Trump-he's a disruptor. The system is broken and he's come up with some radical solutions.
Just because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I think they're wrong about everything.
If he's wrong about most things, which I think he is, then it's a huge advantage to Republicans in the mid terms
Can't make head or tail of that logic... #twisted
He's right in some of the things he says
He's wrong on others
Eg...I'll give him credit and praise him if he manages to make the city owned grocery stores work or figure out how to give free subway fares to poor people
He is wrong on how he says he's going to pay for all this stuff. He doesn't have taxing authority.
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 12:31:08 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 07, 2025, 12:23:22 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 12:18:55 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 07, 2025, 12:09:09 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 11:18:15 AMNotice how whitey ignores the posts about dangerous right wing extremists?
I wouldn't pay much heed to Whitey. A walking contradiction. Claimed its 'fantastic' that Mamdani got elected in New York. Can't imagine he says that to the lads on his nite out... 😆
It's is fantastic
Mamdani is just the left wing version of Trump-he's a disruptor. The system is broken and he's come up with some radical solutions.
Just because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I think they're wrong about everything.
If he's wrong about most things, which I think he is, then it's a huge advantage to Republicans in the mid terms
Can't make head or tail of that logic... #twisted
He's right in some of the things he says
He's wrong on others
Eg...I'll give him credit and praise him if he manages to make the city owned grocery stores work or figure out how to give free subway fares to poor people
He is wrong on how he says he's going to pay for all this stuff. He doesn't have taxing authority.
Surely neither of those are mad ideas and shouldn't be too hard to implement?
How much power does he actually have?
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 07, 2025, 03:41:32 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 12:31:08 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 07, 2025, 12:23:22 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 12:18:55 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 07, 2025, 12:09:09 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 11:18:15 AMNotice how whitey ignores the posts about dangerous right wing extremists?
I wouldn't pay much heed to Whitey. A walking contradiction. Claimed its 'fantastic' that Mamdani got elected in New York. Can't imagine he says that to the lads on his nite out... 😆
It's is fantastic
Mamdani is just the left wing version of Trump-he's a disruptor. The system is broken and he's come up with some radical solutions.
Just because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I think they're wrong about everything.
If he's wrong about most things, which I think he is, then it's a huge advantage to Republicans in the mid terms
Can't make head or tail of that logic... #twisted
He's right in some of the things he says
He's wrong on others
Eg...I'll give him credit and praise him if he manages to make the city owned grocery stores work or figure out how to give free subway fares to poor people
He is wrong on how he says he's going to pay for all this stuff. He doesn't have taxing authority.
Surely neither of those are mad ideas and shouldn't be too hard to implement?
How much power does he actually have?
I don't think they are mad ideas, but they're not exactly practical or easy to implement
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/zohran-mamdani-new-york-city-run-grocery-stores/
So going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Live case so better make no comments...
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/1107/1542785-portlaoise-court/
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
A "rogue landlord" linked to the Drogheda gang feud has been "paid millions" for providing asylum seeker accommodation, the Dáil has been told.
"Sinn Féin TD for Louth Joanna Byrne made the claim under Dáil privilege when speaking about a fire which trapped one adult and four children including a baby upstairs at a facility in the town last week"
"The Government has paid millions of euro for asylum seeker accommodation to this company which is owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/11/07/two-man-appear-in-court-over-alleged-cross-border-terrorism-operation/It was alleged during Garda evidence that a video recording had been made by four masked men indicating their intention to take violent action. Judge Andrew Cody remarked that the video, shown to him after the court was cleared, showed "anyone interfering would be a target" for the group.
A document described as a "manifesto" for the extremist right-wing group also forms part of the evidence, having been found during searches.
An extreme right-wing group produced a video describing its intent to violently attack mosques and asylum seeker accommodation, a court has heard.
Two men appeared before Portlaoise District Court on Friday charged with possession of explosives after their arrest by gardaí during a cross-Border antiterrorism operation earlier this week.
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
[
A "rogue landlord" linked to the Drogheda gang feud has been "paid millions" for providing asylum seeker accommodation, the Dáil has been told.
"Sinn Féin TD for Louth Joanna Byrne made the claim under Dáil privilege when speaking about a fire which trapped one adult and four children including a baby upstairs at a facility in the town last week"
"The Government has paid millions of euro for asylum seeker accommodation to this company which is owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
So no convictions.
The 'link' was he witnessed a botched gangland shooting.
But yeah, the whole IPAS thing is a scam.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 07:04:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
[
A "rogue landlord" linked to the Drogheda gang feud has been "paid millions" for providing asylum seeker accommodation, the Dáil has been told.
"Sinn Féin TD for Louth Joanna Byrne made the claim under Dáil privilege when speaking about a fire which trapped one adult and four children including a baby upstairs at a facility in the town last week"
"The Government has paid millions of euro for asylum seeker accommodation to this company which is owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
So no convictions.
The 'link' was he witnessed a botched gangland shooting.
But yeah, the whole IPAS thing is a scam.
So was the Sinn Fein TD making it all up?
I take it you know what the C in CAB stands for?
Anyways I believe he lost his contract this morning
I'm guessing the Authorities have someone inside the extremist gang?
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 07:37:26 PMI'm guessing the Authorities have someone inside the extremist gang?
It's Ireland, there's a culture for touting. For a few quid mind you
Once it leads to arrests like yesterday's....
A few posters here having a bad week😆
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 07:09:54 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 07:04:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
[
A "rogue landlord" linked to the Drogheda gang feud has been "paid millions" for providing asylum seeker accommodation, the Dáil has been told.
"Sinn Féin TD for Louth Joanna Byrne made the claim under Dáil privilege when speaking about a fire which trapped one adult and four children including a baby upstairs at a facility in the town last week"
"The Government has paid millions of euro for asylum seeker accommodation to this company which is owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
So no convictions.
The 'link' was he witnessed a botched gangland shooting.
But yeah, the whole IPAS thing is a scam.
So was the Sinn Fein TD making it all up?
I take it you know what the C in CAB stands for?
Anyways I believe he lost his contract this morning
This is the bit where you read the article.
If you read what she actually said, she didn't name names or directly accused him of anything.
He was mentioned in a CAB report about somebody else. Spefically that he was there when that someone was shot at snd he msy know them. That's it. The entirety of the evidence. Bar a traffic offence he has no criminal record.
He also hasn't been involved in the company for 6 months so he 'lost' nothing.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 07:37:26 PMI'm guessing the Authorities have someone inside the extremist gang?
It was always claimed that the reason the Gardai kid gloved this lot was that they believed they had the whole thing controlled. Rats everywhere.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 08:23:26 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 07:09:54 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 07:04:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
[
A "rogue landlord" linked to the Drogheda gang feud has been "paid millions" for providing asylum seeker accommodation, the Dáil has been told.
"Sinn Féin TD for Louth Joanna Byrne made the claim under Dáil privilege when speaking about a fire which trapped one adult and four children including a baby upstairs at a facility in the town last week"
"The Government has paid millions of euro for asylum seeker accommodation to this company which is owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
So no convictions.
The 'link' was he witnessed a botched gangland shooting.
But yeah, the whole IPAS thing is a scam.
So was the Sinn Fein TD making it all up?
I take it you know what the C in CAB stands for?
Anyways I believe he lost his contract this morning
This is the bit where you read the article.
If you read what she actually said, she didn't name names or directly accused him of anything.
He was mentioned in a CAB report about somebody else. Spefically that he was there when that someone was shot at snd he msy know them. That's it. The entirety of the evidence. Bar a traffic offence he has no criminal record.
He also hasn't been involved in the company for 6 months so he 'lost' nothing.
Yaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnn
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/episode-1096-ipas-centre-businessman-named-in-cab-case-against-feuding-gang-leaders/a475127152.html
Skip to 5:50 if you don't have time to listen to it all
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2025, 08:21:32 PMOnce it leads to arrests like yesterday's....
A few posters here having a bad week😆
Absolutely
One poster was even blaming the far right for setting a fire at an IPAS center when in fact it was set by a group of criminals involved in a fued with another criminal who owned the IPAS center
The same poster even went so far as to berate a fellow poster for not condemning the far right for setting the fire
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 08:50:37 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 08:23:26 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 07:09:54 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 07:04:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
[
A "rogue landlord" linked to the Drogheda gang feud has been "paid millions" for providing asylum seeker accommodation, the Dáil has been told.
"Sinn Féin TD for Louth Joanna Byrne made the claim under Dáil privilege when speaking about a fire which trapped one adult and four children including a baby upstairs at a facility in the town last week"
"The Government has paid millions of euro for asylum seeker accommodation to this company which is owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
So no convictions.
The 'link' was he witnessed a botched gangland shooting.
But yeah, the whole IPAS thing is a scam.
So was the Sinn Fein TD making it all up?
I take it you know what the C in CAB stands for?
Anyways I believe he lost his contract this morning
This is the bit where you read the article.
If you read what she actually said, she didn't name names or directly accused him of anything.
He was mentioned in a CAB report about somebody else. Spefically that he was there when that someone was shot at snd he msy know them. That's it. The entirety of the evidence. Bar a traffic offence he has no criminal record.
He also hasn't been involved in the company for 6 months so he 'lost' nothing.
Yaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnn
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/episode-1096-ipas-centre-businessman-named-in-cab-case-against-feuding-gang-leaders/a475127152.html
Skip to 5:50 if you don't have time to listen to it all
Verbatim what I said.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 09:26:11 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 08:50:37 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 08:23:26 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 07:09:54 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 07:04:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
[
A "rogue landlord" linked to the Drogheda gang feud has been "paid millions" for providing asylum seeker accommodation, the Dáil has been told.
"Sinn Féin TD for Louth Joanna Byrne made the claim under Dáil privilege when speaking about a fire which trapped one adult and four children including a baby upstairs at a facility in the town last week"
"The Government has paid millions of euro for asylum seeker accommodation to this company which is owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
So no convictions.
The 'link' was he witnessed a botched gangland shooting.
But yeah, the whole IPAS thing is a scam.
So was the Sinn Fein TD making it all up?
I take it you know what the C in CAB stands for?
Anyways I believe he lost his contract this morning
This is the bit where you read the article.
If you read what she actually said, she didn't name names or directly accused him of anything.
He was mentioned in a CAB report about somebody else. Spefically that he was there when that someone was shot at snd he msy know them. That's it. The entirety of the evidence. Bar a traffic offence he has no criminal record.
He also hasn't been involved in the company for 6 months so he 'lost' nothing.
Yaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnn
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/episode-1096-ipas-centre-businessman-named-in-cab-case-against-feuding-gang-leaders/a475127152.html
Skip to 5:50 if you don't have time to listen to it all
Verbatim what I said.
The exact opposite of what you said
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 09:39:08 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 09:26:11 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 08:50:37 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 08:23:26 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 07:09:54 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 07:04:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
[
A "rogue landlord" linked to the Drogheda gang feud has been "paid millions" for providing asylum seeker accommodation, the Dáil has been told.
"Sinn Féin TD for Louth Joanna Byrne made the claim under Dáil privilege when speaking about a fire which trapped one adult and four children including a baby upstairs at a facility in the town last week"
"The Government has paid millions of euro for asylum seeker accommodation to this company which is owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
So no convictions.
The 'link' was he witnessed a botched gangland shooting.
But yeah, the whole IPAS thing is a scam.
So was the Sinn Fein TD making it all up?
I take it you know what the C in CAB stands for?
Anyways I believe he lost his contract this morning
This is the bit where you read the article.
If you read what she actually said, she didn't name names or directly accused him of anything.
He was mentioned in a CAB report about somebody else. Spefically that he was there when that someone was shot at snd he msy know them. That's it. The entirety of the evidence. Bar a traffic offence he has no criminal record.
He also hasn't been involved in the company for 6 months so he 'lost' nothing.
Yaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnn
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/episode-1096-ipas-centre-businessman-named-in-cab-case-against-feuding-gang-leaders/a475127152.html
Skip to 5:50 if you don't have time to listen to it all
Verbatim what I said.
The exact opposite of what you said
This is grim. You aren't even reading your own links
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 10:17:05 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 09:39:08 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 09:26:11 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 08:50:37 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 08:23:26 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 07:09:54 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 07:04:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
[
A "rogue landlord" linked to the Drogheda gang feud has been "paid millions" for providing asylum seeker accommodation, the Dáil has been told.
"Sinn Féin TD for Louth Joanna Byrne made the claim under Dáil privilege when speaking about a fire which trapped one adult and four children including a baby upstairs at a facility in the town last week"
"The Government has paid millions of euro for asylum seeker accommodation to this company which is owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
So no convictions.
The 'link' was he witnessed a botched gangland shooting.
But yeah, the whole IPAS thing is a scam.
So was the Sinn Fein TD making it all up?
I take it you know what the C in CAB stands for?
Anyways I believe he lost his contract this morning
This is the bit where you read the article.
If you read what she actually said, she didn't name names or directly accused him of anything.
He was mentioned in a CAB report about somebody else. Spefically that he was there when that someone was shot at snd he msy know them. That's it. The entirety of the evidence. Bar a traffic offence he has no criminal record.
He also hasn't been involved in the company for 6 months so he 'lost' nothing.
Yaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnn
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/episode-1096-ipas-centre-businessman-named-in-cab-case-against-feuding-gang-leaders/a475127152.html
Skip to 5:50 if you don't have time to listen to it all
Verbatim what I said.
The exact opposite of what you said
This is grim. You aren't even reading your own links
The CAB report to referred to him as a known criminal with links to Cornelius Price which is what the SINN Fein TD said
Stop with that copy and paste bullshit, lazy bollacks!
A horrendous attack on a boy by two older youths in Tuam doing the rounds of Facebook. The wee lad is obviously different colour skin or foreign or watever is correct to say.
It's disgusting and the outworkings of the racism being whipped up by the far right. Deaths are inevitable. People have lost the plot with this hatred.
So that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
Quote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 11:11:42 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 10:17:05 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 09:39:08 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 09:26:11 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 08:50:37 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 08:23:26 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 07:09:54 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 07:04:08 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 07, 2025, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: whitey on November 07, 2025, 04:05:23 PMSo going back to the governments mishandling of the migrant crisis its absolutely mind boggling that the Government gave a €10M contract to house International Protection Applicants to a known criminal whose currently involved in a fued with another criminal gang
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
Not sure your summation is correct.
What is this criminals convictions?
[
A "rogue landlord" linked to the Drogheda gang feud has been "paid millions" for providing asylum seeker accommodation, the Dáil has been told.
"Sinn Féin TD for Louth Joanna Byrne made the claim under Dáil privilege when speaking about a fire which trapped one adult and four children including a baby upstairs at a facility in the town last week"
"The Government has paid millions of euro for asylum seeker accommodation to this company which is owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
So no convictions.
The 'link' was he witnessed a botched gangland shooting.
But yeah, the whole IPAS thing is a scam.
So was the Sinn Fein TD making it all up?
I take it you know what the C in CAB stands for?
Anyways I believe he lost his contract this morning
This is the bit where you read the article.
If you read what she actually said, she didn't name names or directly accused him of anything.
He was mentioned in a CAB report about somebody else. Spefically that he was there when that someone was shot at snd he msy know them. That's it. The entirety of the evidence. Bar a traffic offence he has no criminal record.
He also hasn't been involved in the company for 6 months so he 'lost' nothing.
Yaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnn
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/episode-1096-ipas-centre-businessman-named-in-cab-case-against-feuding-gang-leaders/a475127152.html
Skip to 5:50 if you don't have time to listen to it all
Verbatim what I said.
The exact opposite of what you said
This is grim. You aren't even reading your own links
The CAB report to referred to him as a known criminal with links to Cornelius Price which is what the SINN Fein TD said
No. It. Didn't.
Quote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/11/07/two-man-appear-in-court-over-alleged-cross-border-terrorism-operation/It was alleged during Garda evidence that a video recording had been made by four masked men indicating their intention to take violent action. Judge Andrew Cody remarked that the video, shown to him after the court was cleared, showed "anyone interfering would be a target" for the group.
A document described as a "manifesto" for the extremist right-wing group also forms part of the evidence, having been found during searches.
Karolis Peckauskas (38) of Newfoundwell Rd, Drogheda, Co Louth, and Garrett Pollock (35), with an address at Kilhorne Green, Annalong, Co Down, appeared before the court on a number of charges
Judge Cody said the video found by gardaí on Mr Pollock's phone was "a practice of a statement being released subsequent to a successful terrorist attack". This attack was intended to bring about the "destruction" of Galway Mosque, which was described as the first mosque in the Republic.
Judge Cody noted that the men in the video said they were "taking a moment to speak honestly and directly" as "everyone in the country" had had enough of the poor treatment of people "particularly children, women and the elderly" who had been "left homeless starving cold and under threat". The video said this was "due to the number of migrants that have been brought into the country by our Government". The men described this as "a threat to our sovereignty and could potentially be a hostile takeover".
"They say that they accept [the destruction of Galway Mosque] would have caused a lot of hurt, disappointment and destruction for foreign migrants, both the legal and illegal, in the community, that they do not care," the judge said in summary.
"They say that this will not be their last attack. They describe their philosophy as an eye for an eye. They say they intend to target Ipas [asylum] centres, Mosques and hotels housing migrants and that they would take this as far as necessary to achieve their goals and call on others to join them."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/11/08/british-fascists-american-white-supremacists-terror-attack/
British fascists are being trained by American white supremacists linked to a deadly terror attack, the Telegraph can reveal.
Members of Vanguard Britannica, a racist, anti-Semitic group based in the UK, travelled to the US in September to attend the first national conference of the Patriot Front, America's most prolific neo-Nazi group.
The members returned to the UK "ready to apply what they have learnt in our home country", leaked Telegram messages show.
During their trip to Texas, delegates took part in training "workshops".
They also met with prominent American white nationalists including Jared Taylor, the editor of American Renaissance magazine, a publication associated with the movement, and Thomas Rousseau, the leader of Patriot Front.
Quote from: seafoid on November 08, 2025, 12:04:03 PMhttps://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/11/07/two-man-appear-in-court-over-alleged-cross-border-terrorism-operation/It was alleged during Garda evidence that a video recording had been made by four masked men indicating their intention to take violent action. Judge Andrew Cody remarked that the video, shown to him after the court was cleared, showed "anyone interfering would be a target" for the group.
A document described as a "manifesto" for the extremist right-wing group also forms part of the evidence, having been found during searches.
Karolis Peckauskas (38) of Newfoundwell Rd, Drogheda, Co Louth, and Garrett Pollock (35), with an address at Kilhorne Green, Annalong, Co Down, appeared before the court on a number of charges
Judge Cody said the video found by gardaí on Mr Pollock's phone was "a practice of a statement being released subsequent to a successful terrorist attack". This attack was intended to bring about the "destruction" of Galway Mosque, which was described as the first mosque in the Republic.
Judge Cody noted that the men in the video said they were "taking a moment to speak honestly and directly" as "everyone in the country" had had enough of the poor treatment of people "particularly children, women and the elderly" who had been "left homeless starving cold and under threat". The video said this was "due to the number of migrants that have been brought into the country by our Government". The men described this as "a threat to our sovereignty and could potentially be a hostile takeover".
"They say that they accept [the destruction of Galway Mosque] would have caused a lot of hurt, disappointment and destruction for foreign migrants, both the legal and illegal, in the community, that they do not care," the judge said in summary.
"They say that this will not be their last attack. They describe their philosophy as an eye for an eye. They say they intend to target Ipas [asylum] centres, Mosques and hotels housing migrants and that they would take this as far as necessary to achieve their goals and call on others to join them."
With these addresses and stuff, surely these lads etc. must be all connecting up on-line nowadays?
Quote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travelers here won't condemn fraudulent, asylum seekers like the fella accused of raping a 10 year old girl just a few weeks ago
Quote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 01:24:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travelers here won't condemn fraudulent, asylum seekers like the fella accused of raping a 10 year old girl just a few weeks ago
A lot of this far right propaganda being whipped up from US and Britain. Is inevitable will be deaths of migrants. The 'Irish' KKK.
Don't think anyone here wouldn't condemn the rape of a 10-year-old. If is an illegal migrant jail and first plane out of here.. and if is Irish as often has been, including, perpetrated and covered up by your heroes in the Catholic Church, a very long prison sentence.. preferably life.
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 01:24:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travelers here won't condemn fraudulent, asylum seekers like the fella accused of raping a 10 year old girl just a few weeks ago
A lot of this far right propaganda being whipped up from US and Britain. Is inevitable will be deaths of migrants. The 'Irish' KKK.
Don't think anyone here wouldn't condemn the rape of a 10-year-old. If is an illegal migrant jail and first plane out of here.. and if is Irish as often has been, including, perpetrated and covered up by your heroes in the Catholic Church, a very long prison sentence.. preferably life.
2 things can be true at once
I am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
Whatabouterty at its finest
Quote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 01:24:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travelers here won't condemn fraudulent, asylum seekers like the fella accused of raping a 10 year old girl just a few weeks ago
A lot of this far right propaganda being whipped up from US and Britain. Is inevitable will be deaths of migrants. The 'Irish' KKK.
Don't think anyone here wouldn't condemn the rape of a 10-year-old. If is an illegal migrant jail and first plane out of here.. and if is Irish as often has been, including, perpetrated and covered up by your heroes in the Catholic Church, a very long prison sentence.. preferably life.
2 things can be true at once
I am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
You nearly had a meltdown about the comments from The Mary Wallopers taking no account of how their family suffered at the hands of the church. Then threw in your wee sectarian pop claiming there are a Protestant family though they came from a so-called 'mixed marriage'. They were correct in their comments, which is why no-one took them to task.
Quote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMI am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
It's almost as if those aren't the same things at all.
I see whitey still thinks comment made by musicians is a bigger evil than attempted murder or planning to blow up a place of worship.
Quote from: gallsman on November 08, 2025, 03:42:52 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMI am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
It's almost as if those aren't the same things at all.
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 03:34:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 01:24:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travelers here won't condemn fraudulent, asylum seekers like the fella accused of raping a 10 year old girl just a few weeks ago
A lot of this far right propaganda being whipped up from US and Britain. Is inevitable will be deaths of migrants. The 'Irish' KKK.
Don't think anyone here wouldn't condemn the rape of a 10-year-old. If is an illegal migrant jail and first plane out of here.. and if is Irish as often has been, including, perpetrated and covered up by your heroes in the Catholic Church, a very long prison sentence.. preferably life.
2 things can be true at once
I am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
You nearly had a meltdown about the comments from The Mary Wallopers taking no account of how their family suffered at the hands of the church. Then threw in your wee sectarian pop claiming there are a Protestant family though they came from a so-called 'mixed marriage'. They were correct in their comments, which is why no-one took them to task.
I didn't have a meltdown I simply mentioned it as an example of media bias and the fact that if you're on the left you are immune from criticism
And I never mentioned their religion-someone else did
Quote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 03:55:10 PMI see whitey still thinks comment made by musicians is a bigger evil than attempted murder or planning to blow up a place of worship.
I see Rossfan still thinks a fire set by a drugs gang as part of a fued is a bigger evil than a 10 year old allegedly being raped by a failed asylum seeker
Quote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 04:39:18 PMQuote from: gallsman on November 08, 2025, 03:42:52 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMI am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
It's almost as if those aren't the same things at all.
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 03:34:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 01:24:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travelers here won't condemn fraudulent, asylum seekers like the fella accused of raping a 10 year old girl just a few weeks ago
A lot of this far right propaganda being whipped up from US and Britain. Is inevitable will be deaths of migrants. The 'Irish' KKK.
Don't think anyone here wouldn't condemn the rape of a 10-year-old. If is an illegal migrant jail and first plane out of here.. and if is Irish as often has been, including, perpetrated and covered up by your heroes in the Catholic Church, a very long prison sentence.. preferably life.
2 things can be true at once
I am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
You nearly had a meltdown about the comments from The Mary Wallopers taking no account of how their family suffered at the hands of the church. Then threw in your wee sectarian pop claiming there are a Protestant family though they came from a so-called 'mixed marriage'. They were correct in their comments, which is why no-one took them to task.
I didn't have a meltdown I simply mentioned it as an example of media bias and the fact that if you're on the left you are immune from criticism
And I never mentioned their religion-someone else did
You actually did mention their religion when quoting some right wing mag: Your message below on November 1st at 6:14pm. Go back and check. (You're not very honest).
"Here's what I read:
"Catholic Arena
@CatholicArena
Ireland's new President Catherine Connolly is facing calls to distance herself from horrific sectarian remarks made at her rally for young voters in Dublin last week
Pop band The Mary Wallopers, who come from Protestant family backgrounds, blasted the 'f*cking Catholic Church' and 'all those c*nts'
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 06:15:22 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 04:39:18 PMQuote from: gallsman on November 08, 2025, 03:42:52 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMI am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
It's almost as if those aren't the same things at all.
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 03:34:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 01:24:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travelers here won't condemn fraudulent, asylum seekers like the fella accused of raping a 10 year old girl just a few weeks ago
A lot of this far right propaganda being whipped up from US and Britain. Is inevitable will be deaths of migrants. The 'Irish' KKK.
Don't think anyone here wouldn't condemn the rape of a 10-year-old. If is an illegal migrant jail and first plane out of here.. and if is Irish as often has been, including, perpetrated and covered up by your heroes in the Catholic Church, a very long prison sentence.. preferably life.
2 things can be true at once
I am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
You nearly had a meltdown about the comments from The Mary Wallopers taking no account of how their family suffered at the hands of the church. Then threw in your wee sectarian pop claiming there are a Protestant family though they came from a so-called 'mixed marriage'. They were correct in their comments, which is why no-one took them to task.
I didn't have a meltdown I simply mentioned it as an example of media bias and the fact that if you're on the left you are immune from criticism
And I never mentioned their religion-someone else did
You actually did mention their religion when quoting some right wing mag: Your message below on November 1st at 6:14pm. Go back and check. (You're not very honest).
"Here's what I read:
"Catholic Arena
@CatholicArena
Ireland's new President Catherine Connolly is facing calls to distance herself from horrific sectarian remarks made at her rally for young voters in Dublin last week
Pop band The Mary Wallopers, who come from Protestant family backgrounds, blasted the 'f*cking Catholic Church' and 'all those c*nts'
My bad-someone else mentioned the
Mixed marriage, impact on the family etc.
Still doesn't negate the fact that what they said was flat out outrageous, and were it not for the fact they are part of the "woke protected class" a major s4it storm would have descended upon them and Catherine Connolly
Quote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 06:39:08 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 06:15:22 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 04:39:18 PMQuote from: gallsman on November 08, 2025, 03:42:52 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMI am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
It's almost as if those aren't the same things at all.
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 03:34:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 01:24:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travelers here won't condemn fraudulent, asylum seekers like the fella accused of raping a 10 year old girl just a few weeks ago
A lot of this far right propaganda being whipped up from US and Britain. Is inevitable will be deaths of migrants. The 'Irish' KKK.
Don't think anyone here wouldn't condemn the rape of a 10-year-old. If is an illegal migrant jail and first plane out of here.. and if is Irish as often has been, including, perpetrated and covered up by your heroes in the Catholic Church, a very long prison sentence.. preferably life.
2 things can be true at once
I am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
You nearly had a meltdown about the comments from The Mary Wallopers taking no account of how their family suffered at the hands of the church. Then threw in your wee sectarian pop claiming there are a Protestant family though they came from a so-called 'mixed marriage'. They were correct in their comments, which is why no-one took them to task.
I didn't have a meltdown I simply mentioned it as an example of media bias and the fact that if you're on the left you are immune from criticism
And I never mentioned their religion-someone else did
You actually did mention their religion when quoting some right wing mag: Your message below on November 1st at 6:14pm. Go back and check. (You're not very honest).
"Here's what I read:
"Catholic Arena
@CatholicArena
Ireland's new President Catherine Connolly is facing calls to distance herself from horrific sectarian remarks made at her rally for young voters in Dublin last week
Pop band The Mary Wallopers, who come from Protestant family backgrounds, blasted the 'f*cking Catholic Church' and 'all those c*nts'
My bad-someone else mentioned the
Mixed marriage, impact on the family etc.
Still doesn't negate the fact that what they said was flat out outrageous, and were it not for the fact they are part of the "woke protected class" a major s4it storm would have descended upon them and Catherine Connolly
More dishonesty. Was me mentioned the impact of the Catholic Church on the family... this was insinuating their motives came from a Protestant background (sectarian).
They told the truth.. we're still dealing with the abuse and lies of the Catholic Church. This today...
"The team excavating the site of a former mother-and-baby institution in Tuam in County Galway have found seven sets of what they believe to be infant remains..."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y4jypkemmo.amp
Presume u getting cremation then, don't want be taking up the graveyard space of the church goers. Be a hypocrite giving out about the Catholic church, then getting buried in their graveyard.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 08, 2025, 07:53:54 PMPresume u getting cremation then, don't want be taking up the graveyard space of the church goers. Be a hypocrite giving out about the Catholic church, then getting buried in their graveyard.
:D hadn't thought that far ahead... must consider that. Maybe get my ashes scattered on Lough Neagh.
Are you justifying these church run homes that abused unmarried mothers and sold off their children or threw their remains in septic tanks? Some henious clergy in the graveyard you wouldn't want to be buried beside.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 08, 2025, 07:53:54 PMPresume u getting cremation then, don't want be taking up the graveyard space of the church goers. Be a hypocrite giving out about the Catholic church, then getting buried in their graveyard.
If the hatching, matching and dispatching was only open to regular Mass goers there wouldn't be much activity in the chapels.
And how many years ago is that? Many bad things have happened in Ireland, there's guys in political parties who done hard time working for MLAs or in the background. People still vote for them.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 08, 2025, 08:30:03 PMAnd how many years ago is that? Many bad things have happened in Ireland, there's guys in political parties who done hard time working for MLAs or in the background. People still vote for them.
If any other organisation had done what the Catholic Church did here, it would have been made disband. Long time ago that one but they lied and covered it up for decades after. A trail of suicides, alcohol and drug addiction left in its wake the trauma inflicted on so many.
Original argument was The Mary Wallopers were entitled to say what they said about the church after the trauma they inflicted on their family.
Quote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 01:24:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travelers here won't condemn fraudulent, asylum seekers like the fella accused of raping a 10 year old girl just a few weeks ago
A lot of this far right propaganda being whipped up from US and Britain. Is inevitable will be deaths of migrants. The 'Irish' KKK.
Don't think anyone here wouldn't condemn the rape of a 10-year-old. If is an illegal migrant jail and first plane out of here.. and if is Irish as often has been, including, perpetrated and covered up by your heroes in the Catholic Church, a very long prison sentence.. preferably life.
2 things can be true at once
I am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
you cant imagine because it didnt happen anywhere outside of your own head
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 10, 2025, 10:37:18 AMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 03:10:09 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on November 08, 2025, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: whitey on November 08, 2025, 01:24:24 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AMQuote from: Hand of God on November 08, 2025, 06:04:59 AMSo that's 4 of the far right scum arrested/on trial down south in recent days. Hopefully the book is thrown at them and they don't get out for a very long time.
Interesting that one has a very planter name from a planter part of Down and the other has a very non-Irish name. The "Ireland is full" mob are maybe must pre occupied with skin colour.
That and Muslims.
Thank God they were nipped in the bud before they murdered all around them.
Also thank the Louth Fire Service or there would have been a large number of funerals in Drogheda in recent days including a 3 week old baby.
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travellers here won't condemn the cnuts
Yet a few disgusting individual fellow travelers here won't condemn fraudulent, asylum seekers like the fella accused of raping a 10 year old girl just a few weeks ago
A lot of this far right propaganda being whipped up from US and Britain. Is inevitable will be deaths of migrants. The 'Irish' KKK.
Don't think anyone here wouldn't condemn the rape of a 10-year-old. If is an illegal migrant jail and first plane out of here.. and if is Irish as often has been, including, perpetrated and covered up by your heroes in the Catholic Church, a very long prison sentence.. preferably life.
2 things can be true at once
I am no fan of the Catholic Church at all, but at the same time, the fact that the Mary Wallopers can get on stage with the incoming President and say "fvck the Catholic Church" and call them a "shower of cvnts" and have absolutely no blow back is mind boggling
If a right wing candidate had won the Presidency and appeared on stage with an "artist" that said "fvck Islam" and called Muslims a "shower of cvnts" I can't even imagine what would have happened
you cant imagine because it didnt happen anywhere outside of your own head
Believe whatever you want
This and the recent infiltration of Aontú's Ògra.....
The nasty disease is getting dangerous.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/1113/1543754-sinn-fein-explusion/
And talking of Aontú's former infiltrators
https://www.kfmradio.com/news/localnews/after-racist-whatsapp-fallout-sacked-derrinturn-ogra-aontu-leader-invokes-teachings-of-jesus-christ/
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2025, 12:11:43 PMAnd talking of Aontú's former infiltrators
https://www.kfmradio.com/news/localnews/after-racist-whatsapp-fallout-sacked-derrinturn-ogra-aontu-leader-invokes-teachings-of-jesus-christ/
Hardly surprising. The Aontú leader Tóibín was eulogising Charlie Kirk... isn't that rhetoric from the Kirk playbook?
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2025, 12:08:31 PMThis and the recent infiltration of Aontú's Ògra.....
The nasty disease is getting dangerous.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/1113/1543754-sinn-fein-explusion/
Had been signed into the Oireachtas by a SF senator...
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 13, 2025, 12:53:44 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2025, 12:11:43 PMAnd talking of Aontú's former infiltrators
https://www.kfmradio.com/news/localnews/after-racist-whatsapp-fallout-sacked-derrinturn-ogra-aontu-leader-invokes-teachings-of-jesus-christ/
Hardly surprising. The Aontú leader Tóibín was eulogising Charlie Kirk... isn't that rhetoric from the Kirk playbook?
And to think Peadar claims he's left wing 🤣.
A few proper lùlás joined that Party.
Quote from: Tubberman on November 13, 2025, 01:33:33 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2025, 12:08:31 PMThis and the recent infiltration of Aontú's Ògra.....
The nasty disease is getting dangerous.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/1113/1543754-sinn-fein-explusion/
Had been signed into the Oireachtas by a SF senator...
Twice.
The expelled person was a member of SF for less than a year.
Sounds like infiltration.
So in the last week here's what came to light
Hardened criminals earned €10 M housing asylum seekers. The hotel where they were housed was set alight by rival criminals as part of a feud
Regarding the poor Ukranian lad who was murdered in Tulsa accommodation.
Possibly the "minor" who is accused of murdering him, isn't in fact a minor
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/gardai-believe-suspect-in-murder-of-ukrainian-teenager-is-an-adult-and-may-not-have-been-entitled-to-tusla-care-at-the-time/a976793815.html
We have a Nigerian pretending to be a Zimbabwean...and committing welfare fraud
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/nigerian-man-who-pretended-zimbabwean-36211286.amp
A South African woman who was ordered deported created a false name and committed welfare fraud under her alias. After having gone back on vacation to the country she originally fled
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/woman-created-alias-avoid-deportation-36229813?brid=lnQWSTZ1ZUu4F9kf6b_G-A
Quote from: whitey on November 13, 2025, 11:05:51 PMSo in the last week here's what came to light
Hardened criminals earned €10 M housing asylum seekers. The hotel where they were housed was set alight by rival criminals as part of a feud
Regarding the poor Ukranian lad who was murdered in Tulsa accommodation.
Possibly the "minor" who is accused of murdering him, isn't in fact a minor
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/gardai-believe-suspect-in-murder-of-ukrainian-teenager-is-an-adult-and-may-not-have-been-entitled-to-tusla-care-at-the-time/a976793815.html
We have a Nigerian pretending to be a Zimbabwean...and committing welfare fraud
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/nigerian-man-who-pretended-zimbabwean-36211286.amp
A South African woman who was ordered deported created a false name and committed welfare fraud under her alias. After having gone back on vacation to the country she originally fled
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/woman-created-alias-avoid-deportation-36229813?brid=lnQWSTZ1ZUu4F9kf6b_G-A
is this the link for your first claim?
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/11/06/two-men-charged-in-connection-with-drogheda-ipas-fire/
I see the whitey hero currently under arrest has a cocaine dealing conviction.
His application to join Sinn Féin was rejected as a result.
Meanwhile there were at least 5 or 6 sexual abuse cases in the Courts yesterday, including former Ref Tommy Howard abusing his niece for 6 or 8 years till she reached puberty.
I must have missed the news item of the fascist mobs beseieging those individuals' houses🙄
Quote from: whitey on November 13, 2025, 11:05:51 PMSo in the last week here's what came to light
Hardened criminals earned €10 M housing asylum seekers. The hotel where they were housed was set alight by rival criminals as part of a feud
Regarding the poor Ukranian lad who was murdered in Tulsa accommodation.
Possibly the "minor" who is accused of murdering him, isn't in fact a minor
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/gardai-believe-suspect-in-murder-of-ukrainian-teenager-is-an-adult-and-may-not-have-been-entitled-to-tusla-care-at-the-time/a976793815.html
We have a Nigerian pretending to be a Zimbabwean...and committing welfare fraud
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/nigerian-man-who-pretended-zimbabwean-36211286.amp
A South African woman who was ordered deported created a false name and committed welfare fraud under her alias. After having gone back on vacation to the country she originally fled
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/woman-created-alias-avoid-deportation-36229813?brid=lnQWSTZ1ZUu4F9kf6b_G-A
You must have missed the one of the Irish woman who murdered two men and fled to Africa or are you just doing migrant cases into this week?
I see the open borders proponents all have their main talking point down this morning
Yes, Irish people commit crimes, too. Well spotted. However, why invite in demographics who are statistically more likely to commit crimes?
Heh. I see they've developed and started selling 'rape-resistant' underwear in Germany! Could it be that they've been importing a lot of rapists recently?? Also saw - in the Irish Times, of all places - that some gay nightclub in Berlin was closed down at least partly because the area has become much less 'gay-friendly'! There was even a quote from one of the regular attenders which said that Berlin had reached 'diversity saturation-point'!
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 14, 2025, 10:50:38 AMYes, Irish people commit crimes, too. Well spotted. However, why invite in demographics who are statistically more likely to commit crimes?
Heh. I see they've developed and started selling 'rape-resistant' underwear in Germany! Could it be that they've been importing a lot of rapists recently?? Also saw - in the Irish Times, of all places - that some gay nightclub in Berlin was closed down at least partly because the area has become much less 'gay-friendly'! There was even a quote from one of the regular attenders which said that Berlin had reached 'diversity saturation-point'!
Can you give us the source of these statistics. Rape resistant shorts... could have been doing with those in Ireland for decades
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 14, 2025, 10:50:38 AMYes, Irish people commit crimes, too. Well spotted. However, why invite in demographics who are statistically more likely to commit crimes?
Heh. I see they've developed and started selling 'rape-resistant' underwear in Germany! Could it be that they've been importing a lot of rapists recently?? Also saw - in the Irish Times, of all places - that some gay nightclub in Berlin was closed down at least partly because the area has become much less 'gay-friendly'! There was even a quote from one of the regular attenders which said that Berlin had reached 'diversity saturation-point'!
Does this include men?
They're everywhere. Go and look 'em up. What was it - in London something like 58% of knife crime is committed by about 10% of the population? Roughly the same in America. Something like that. In Germany, foreigners are four times more likely to be suspects in violent crime cases, and there's been a rise in cases of sexual violence over the last couple of years. Look at Sweden, The Netherlands, France... Who's in prison (though you won't get those figures for France, granted)?
From the Examiner -
A man arrested as part of a cross-border terrorism-related investigation had two Sinn Féin membership applications declined.
The man's partner, a Sinn Féin member in Laois, has been expelled from the party following the arrest, which is part of a garda investigation into far-right extremism.
The man, aged in his 30s, was arrested on Wednesday afternoon in Laois.
His partner was expelled from Sinn Féin after another member contacted the party's head office last Friday to inform it that her home had been raided as part of the investigation.
The Irish Examiner understands that the woman joined the party as a member in November 2024, "just before" the general election. She never contested any election.
However, a Sinn Féin spokesman confirmed that the man arrested on Wednesday had previously applied to become a member.
"He applied for membership of the party on November 21, 2024, and again on August 28, 2025, but was not accepted into membership," he said.
'Due diligence'
The Irish Examiner understands that the membership was declined due to previous convictions.
A Sinn Féin spokesman stated that the party does "due diligence with the local party on membership applications".
Quote from: Genocide Organ on November 14, 2025, 11:16:25 AMThey're everywhere. Go and look 'em up. What was it - in London something like 58% of knife crime is committed by about 10% of the population? Roughly the same in America. Something like that. In Germany, foreigners are four times more likely to be suspects in violent crime cases, and there's been a rise in cases of sexual violence over the last couple of years. Look at Sweden, The Netherlands, France... Who's in prison (though you won't get those figures for France, granted)?
Statistically far right facists trying to stir up racial hatred are most likely to quote statistics without showing any sources.
It's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
Quote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
Yeah, probably best for you to stay were you are, it's havoc here, I'm surprised I can write the post with amount of foreign crime going on, hopefully I make it home after work!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2025, 12:33:30 PMQuote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
Yeah, probably best for you to stay were you are, it's havoc here, I'm surprised I can write the post with amount of foreign crime going on, hopefully I make it home after work!
While my comments touch on criminality the real point which you're conveniently ignoring has to do with vetting and deporting people who've exhausted all legal recourse
But as you said yourself (paraphrasing) if you can concoct any old c**k and bull story then it's up to the authorities to disprove it and it's on them if they let you through
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2025, 12:33:30 PMQuote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
Yeah, probably best for you to stay were you are, it's havoc here, I'm surprised I can write the post with amount of foreign crime going on, hopefully I make it home after work!
dunno how I make it through my door at night given all the foreign criminals who live in my area.........
Re crime stats Cressida Dick caused controversy discussing the data before parliament, in wake of BLM
"London last year 72% of homicide victims under 25 were black. Nationally—you probably know the figures—you are four times more likely to be a victim of homicide if you are black and eight times more likely to be a perpetrator"
https://committees.parliament.uk/oralevidence/668/html/
Quote from: DaleCooper on November 14, 2025, 01:09:28 PMRe crime stats Cressida Dick caused controversy discussing the data before parliament, in wake of BLM
"London last year 72% of homicide victims under 25 were black. Nationally—you probably know the figures—you are four times more likely to be a victim of homicide if you are black and eight times more likely to be a perpetrator"
https://committees.parliament.uk/oralevidence/668/html/
Have you the stats as to why these figures are what they are?
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 14, 2025, 01:05:10 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2025, 12:33:30 PMQuote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
Yeah, probably best for you to stay were you are, it's havoc here, I'm surprised I can write the post with amount of foreign crime going on, hopefully I make it home after work!
dunno how I make it through my door at night given all the foreign criminals who live in my area.........
I'm lucky to be here at all today.
Got winter vaccinated by a foreigner yesterday, had bit of grub served by a foreigner and probably cooked by one, visited elderly relative in a home with nearly all filoreign staff. Saw a bus passing driven by a foreigner.
All in the space of one hour.
Luckily they must have taken time out from indulging in criminality.
Meanwhile I have to assume whitey and that other individual condone trying to burn people alive in Drogheda, condone plan to blow up a Mosque not to mention mass attacks on Gardai, condone sexual crimes by Irish males....
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2025, 01:12:14 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on November 14, 2025, 01:09:28 PMRe crime stats Cressida Dick caused controversy discussing the data before parliament, in wake of BLM
"London last year 72% of homicide victims under 25 were black. Nationally—you probably know the figures—you are four times more likely to be a victim of homicide if you are black and eight times more likely to be a perpetrator"
https://committees.parliament.uk/oralevidence/668/html/
Have you the stats as to why these figures are what they are?
What do you mean - like IQ or what?
Quote from: Rossfan on November 14, 2025, 01:54:28 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on November 14, 2025, 01:05:10 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2025, 12:33:30 PMQuote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
Yeah, probably best for you to stay were you are, it's havoc here, I'm surprised I can write the post with amount of foreign crime going on, hopefully I make it home after work!
dunno how I make it through my door at night given all the foreign criminals who live in my area.........
I'm lucky to be here at all today.
Got winter vaccinated by a foreigner yesterday, had bit of grub served by a foreigner and probably cooked by one, visited elderly relative in a home with nearly all filoreign staff. Saw a bus passing driven by a foreigner.
All in tgmhe space of one hour.
Luckily they must have taken time out from indulging in criminality.
Meanwhile I have to assume whitey and that other individual condone trying to burn people alive in Drogheda, condone plan to blow up a Mosque not to mention mass attacks on Gardai, condone sexual crimes by Irish males....
DEFLECTDEFLECTDEFLECTDEFLECT DEFLECTDEFLECTDEFLECTDEFLECT
When someone brings up legitimate concerns about fraudulent asylum seekers (which is backed up by both the Taoiseach and Tanaiste)change the subject to the contribution of hardworking legal immigrants
Another classic strategy of the open borders proponents.
Maybe the Hutch's or Kinahans should open an IPAS center? They'd probably pass the (non existent) vetting required
10 years on from one of the worst [racially and religiously motivated massacres in European history. Hard to believe.
More heroes for certain posters....
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/martial-arts-teacher-sacked-over-fk-islam-slurs-at-protest-is-sister-of-notorious-killer/a287397197.html
Quote from: Rossfan on November 18, 2025, 04:54:48 PMMore heroes for certain posters....
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/martial-arts-teacher-sacked-over-fk-islam-slurs-at-protest-is-sister-of-notorious-killer/a287397197.html
Yet a certain band can say exactly the same thing about the Catholic Church (and can call them a shower of cvnts for good measure) yet you and others leapt to their defense
Quote from: whitey on November 18, 2025, 06:04:20 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 18, 2025, 04:54:48 PMMore heroes for certain posters....
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/martial-arts-teacher-sacked-over-fk-islam-slurs-at-protest-is-sister-of-notorious-killer/a287397197.html
Yet a certain band can say exactly the same thing about the Catholic Church (and can call them a shower of cvnts for good measure) yet you and others leapt to their defense
Hmmm, what certified (racist?) idiot would compare protesting against Catholic Church institutionalized child abuse as being the equivalent of a racist crowd of people in chants of "f**k Islam" multiple times among chants of "whose streets, our streets". "this is a Christian country and Islam will not be taking over."
Martial arts teacher sacked over 'f**k Islam' slurs at protest is sister of notorious killer
Nicola Cree is the sister of notorious husband killer Jacqueline 'Creepy' Crymble.
who has been dumped as a kids' teacher by her martial arts school as a result of her actions, was questioned by the PSNI after she stood on a bench in front of Belfast City Hall Saturday, November 8 and, armed with a microphone, led the sickening anti-Muslim hate chant several times.
Quote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
can I get a direct quote from thar CAB report please?
Maybe if you actually read it you might, well, read it.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
can I get a direct quote from thar CAB report please?
Maybe if you actually read it you might, well, read it.
Here is what the Sinn Fein TD said
"It terrifies me that
gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday
The report actually said they (the people who were shot at) were "known criminals"
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 10:54:47 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
can I get a direct quote from thar CAB report please?
Maybe if you actually read it you might, well, read it.
Here is what the Sinn Fein TD said
"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday
The report actually said they (the people who were shot at) were "known criminals"
Directly from Sinn Fein's website
https://sinnfein.ie/news/termination-of-contract-for-drogheda-ipas-accommodation-highlights-need-for-full-review-of-all-international-protection-contracts-matt-carthy-td/
"In July I raised concerns about Secure Accommodation Limited and how we could have IPAS accommodation being provided by a company where a person who had been a director was linked to gangland criminality. This followed reports in the Sunday World that the government had paid millions for IPAS accommodation to a company owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau had linked to the Drogheda gang feud"
bit rich of SF quoting people being linked to a gang feud given how often they deny being linked to the PIRA
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 19, 2025, 01:01:07 PMbit rich of SF quoting people being linked to a gang feud given how often they deny being linked to the PIRA
Which hasn't done much in what is over a quarter of a century now...
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 10:54:47 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
can I get a direct quote from thar CAB report please?
Maybe if you actually read it you might, well, read it.
Here is what the Sinn Fein TD said
"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday
The report actually said they (the people who were shot at) were "known criminals"
I didn't ask what the TD said. I asked you to cite the cab report you keep referencing. What does it say? How does it name him?
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 02:35:43 PMQuote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 10:54:47 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
can I get a direct quote from thar CAB report please?
Maybe if you actually read it you might, well, read it.
Here is what the Sinn Fein TD said
"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday
The report actually said they (the people who were shot at) were "known criminals"
I didn't ask what the TD said. I asked you to cite the cab report you keep referencing. What does it say? How does it name him?
Post it up yourself
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 05:05:07 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 02:35:43 PMQuote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 10:54:47 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
can I get a direct quote from thar CAB report please?
Maybe if you actually read it you might, well, read it.
Here is what the Sinn Fein TD said
"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday
The report actually said they (the people who were shot at) were "known criminals"
I didn't ask what the TD said. I asked you to cite the cab report you keep referencing. What does it say? How does it name him?
Post it up yourself
I know what it says. I'm showing you up for not knowing.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 05:28:20 PMQuote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 05:05:07 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 02:35:43 PMQuote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 10:54:47 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: whitey on November 14, 2025, 12:30:52 PMIt's comical
Michael Martin comments on the number fraudulent asylum applicants is invalid because he is not a trained and experienced asylum interviewer.
CAB reports don't say what they do say about the criminal connections of an IPAS provider
Romanians can be deported-but I recently saw where some were
People are vetted, but somehow they can change their names and get social welfare and not self deport
can I get a direct quote from thar CAB report please?
Maybe if you actually read it you might, well, read it.
Here is what the Sinn Fein TD said
"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday
The report actually said they (the people who were shot at) were "known criminals"
I didn't ask what the TD said. I asked you to cite the cab report you keep referencing. What does it say? How does it name him?
Post it up yourself
I know what it says. I'm showing you up for not knowing.
So 2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly call them gangsters and known criminals and they are wrong and you are right
Sound
Whatever you think yourself
Post up a link so everyone can read it. I saw a clip where a guy was supposedly reading from it-known criminals and close associates of Cornelius Price were the words he used
No. They. Didn't.
You repeating it doesn't mean you are less wrong.
The Dail statement was that an IPAS centre owner, presumably Ben O'Brien, was *mentioned* in a CAB report.
He was. He was one of a group of witnesses to a shooting. The target of the shooting was subject to a CAB report. The report listed him and the other witnesses as witnesses. That's it.
You know you are the mark? That you are being manipulated? A witness to a shooting must be a gangster so therefore the entire IPAS system is criminal.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2025, 06:39:27 PMNo. They. Didn't.
You repeating it doesn't mean you are less wrong.
The Dail statement was that an IPAS centre owner, presumably Ben O'Brien, was *mentioned* in a CAB report.
He was. He was one of a group of witnesses to a shooting. The target of the shooting was subject to a CAB report. The report listed him and the other witnesses as witnesses. That's it.
You know you are the mark? That you are being manipulated? A witness to a shooting must be a gangster so therefore the entire IPAS system is criminal.
Sinn Fein spokes person on Justice. Matt Carty
https://sinnfein.ie/news/termination-of-contract-for-drogheda-ipas-accommodation-highlights-need-for-full-review-of-all-international-protection-contracts-matt-carthy-td/
Sinn Féin spokesperson on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration, Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts.
Deputy Carthy had raised concerns in July regarding the provider in question and the naming of a former director as linked to gangland criminality by the Criminal Assets Bureau
Your,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.
2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.
"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"
The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.
I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.
The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know
Quote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.
2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.
"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"
The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.
I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.
The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know
But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.
That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.
The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.
I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.
You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.
Trump lover using Trump tactics!
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2025, 10:56:47 AMTrump lover using Trump tactics!
To be clear, there may be something sniffy here. But the facts we have don't add up to a scandal. So the facts have to go.
To be fair to whitey, he is being honest about that. The fact he introduced is now irrelevant because it doesn't say what he wants it to say. That is candour.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 10:48:52 AMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.
2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.
"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"
The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.
I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.
The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know
But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.
That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.
The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.
I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.
You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.
"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday
Quote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 10:48:52 AMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.
2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.
"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"
The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.
I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.
The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know
But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.
That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.
The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.
I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.
You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.
"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday
And she shouldn't have said that. The chap in question has no criminal convictions.
You are allowed to think for yourself.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 02:14:31 PMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 10:48:52 AMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.
2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.
"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"
The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.
I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.
The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know
But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.
That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.
The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.
I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.
You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.
"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday
And she shouldn't have said that. The chap in question has no criminal convictions.
You are allowed to think for yourself.
So now she did say it
So I'm not going crazy
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 02:14:31 PMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 11:47:12 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 10:48:52 AMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.
2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.
"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"
The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.
I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.
The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know
But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.
That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.
The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.
I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.
You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.
"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday
And she shouldn't have said that. The chap in question has no criminal convictions.
You are allowed to think for yourself.
What about this chap?
From Matt Carty
"While the person in question has resigned as a director of the Secure Accommodation and is due to be sentenced having pleading guilty to violent disorder, the company continues to provide emergency accommodation in Cavan and Louth"
Quote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 02:26:30 PMWhat about this chap?
From Matt Carty
"While the person in question has resigned as a director of the Secure Accommodation and is due to be sentenced having pleading guilty to violent disorder, the company continues to provide emergency accommodation in Cavan and Louth"
So not convicted. And this is in relation to a car crash. Not gangland.
But you seem to be doing your research, which is better late then never.
So we are agreed that the chap in question has no involvement in the company providing the services, has no criminal convictions, admittedly one is pending for a motoring incident and he has nothing to do with the company losing a contract. He is referenced by CAB incidentally in a way any of us could be.
We are moving very quickly from gangsters running IPAS centres, aren't we.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 03:19:11 PMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 02:26:30 PMWhat about this chap?
From Matt Carty
"While the person in question has resigned as a director of the Secure Accommodation and is due to be sentenced having pleading guilty to violent disorder, the company continues to provide emergency accommodation in Cavan and Louth"
So not convicted. And this is in relation to a car crash. Not gangland.
But you seem to be doing your research, which is better late then never.
So we are agreed that the chap in question has no involvement in the company providing the services, has no criminal convictions, admittedly one is pending for a motoring incident and he has nothing to do with the company losing a contract. He is referenced by CAB incidentally in a way any of us could be.
We are moving very quickly from gangsters running IPAS centres, aren't we.
Haha
If you plead guilty to violent disorder you are a convicted criminal
From AI
"Yes, a guilty plea is a form of conviction, as it is a formal admission of guilt that waives the right to a trial and proceeds directly to sentencing. This results in a criminal conviction on your record, just as if you had been found guilty by a jury"
HAS no (current) involvement but HAD involvement when they got the contract
He might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 08:17:41 PMHe might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.
Not weird at all
2 reasons why it's important
(1) The setting of the fire at the IPAS Center was down to a dispute between 2 criminal gangs not some "far right" ideology.
(2) Gangsters/convicted criminals were able to pass the vetting required to run an IPAS center where they received €10 M in taxpayer funded reimbursement.
If the government can't vet Irish people to run an IPAS center how the heck can we trust them to vet the incoming asylum seekers/refugees
Quote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 09:10:55 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 08:17:41 PMHe might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.
Not weird at all
2 reasons why it's important
(1) The setting of the fire at the IPAS Center was down to a dispute between 2 criminal gangs not some "far right" ideology.
(2) Gangsters/convicted criminals were able to pass the vetting required to run an IPAS center where they received €10 M in taxpayer funded reimbursement.
If the government can't vet Irish people to run an IPAS center how the heck can we trust them to vet the incoming asylum seekers/refugees
Where did you pull that out of ffs
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 20, 2025, 09:24:43 PMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 09:10:55 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 08:17:41 PMHe might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.
Not weird at all
2 reasons why it's important
(1) The setting of the fire at the IPAS Center was down to a dispute between 2 criminal gangs not some "far right" ideology.
(2) Gangsters/convicted criminals were able to pass the vetting required to run an IPAS center where they received €10 M in taxpayer funded reimbursement.
If the government can't vet Irish people to run an IPAS center how the heck can we trust them to vet the incoming asylum seekers/refugees
Where did you pull that out of ffs
The 2 people arrested for setting the fire are members of the opposing faction in the on going feud
Quote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 09:33:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 20, 2025, 09:24:43 PMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 09:10:55 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 08:17:41 PMHe might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.
Not weird at all
2 reasons why it's important
(1) The setting of the fire at the IPAS Center was down to a dispute between 2 criminal gangs not some "far right" ideology.
(2) Gangsters/convicted criminals were able to pass the vetting required to run an IPAS center where they received €10 M in taxpayer funded reimbursement.
If the government can't vet Irish people to run an IPAS center how the heck can we trust them to vet the incoming asylum seekers/refugees
Where did you pull that out of ffs
The 2 people arrested for setting the fire are members of the opposing faction in the on going feud
Hands across the divide in their shared hatred of non white foreigners? Much like the Coolock crew hanging out with the loyalist gang bangers in Belfast?
#thefarwhite
Quote from: JoG2 on November 20, 2025, 09:51:10 PMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 09:33:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on November 20, 2025, 09:24:43 PMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 09:10:55 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 08:17:41 PMHe might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.
Not weird at all
2 reasons why it's important
(1) The setting of the fire at the IPAS Center was down to a dispute between 2 criminal gangs not some "far right" ideology.
(2) Gangsters/convicted criminals were able to pass the vetting required to run an IPAS center where they received €10 M in taxpayer funded reimbursement.
If the government can't vet Irish people to run an IPAS center how the heck can we trust them to vet the incoming asylum seekers/refugees
Where did you pull that out of ffs
The 2 people arrested for setting the fire are members of the opposing faction in the on going feud
Hands across the divide in their shared hatred of non white foreigners? Much like the Coolock crew hanging out with the loyalist gang bangers in Belfast?
#thefarwhite
So remember the poor kid who got beat up in Tuam last week
The same shower of tramps battered sons of a friend of mine at a teenage disco in Ballinasloe last year
Some people are just cvnts-doesn't mean they're far right or driven by far right ideology
Quote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 09:10:55 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 08:17:41 PMHe might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.
Not weird at all
2 reasons why it's important
(1) The setting of the fire at the IPAS Center was down to a dispute between 2 criminal gangs not some "far right" ideology.
(2) Gangsters/convicted criminals were able to pass the vetting required to run an IPAS center where they received €10 M in taxpayer funded reimbursement.
If the government can't vet Irish people to run an IPAS center how the heck can we trust them to vet the incoming asylum seekers/refugees
1. If you have information on the arson, ring the Gardai.
2. This is entirely false.
And your conclusion is based on what you know to be a lie. That Trump shite doesn't work here
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 21, 2025, 12:31:14 AMQuote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 09:10:55 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 08:17:41 PMHe might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.
Not weird at all
2 reasons why it's important
(1) The setting of the fire at the IPAS Center was down to a dispute between 2 criminal gangs not some "far right" ideology.
(2) Gangsters/convicted criminals were able to pass the vetting required to run an IPAS center where they received €10 M in taxpayer funded reimbursement.
If the government can't vet Irish people to run an IPAS center how the heck can we trust them to vet the incoming asylum seekers/refugees
1. If you have information on the arson, ring the Gardai.
2. This is entirely false.
And your conclusion is based on what you know to be a lie. That Trump shite doesn't work here
This is entirely true
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html
"Recent media reports suggest that the owner of this company, Secure Accommodation Management, has been paid €10.2m since it was set up in September 2022. Indeed, the Department of Children, Disability and Equality highlighted its huge profits for 2023."
https://sinnfein.ie/news/cab-naming-of-ipas-provider-shows-urgent-need-for-full-examination-of-profiteering-in-provision-of-ipas-accommodation-matt-carthy-td/
Sinn Féin spokesperson on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration, Matt Carthy TD, has said that reports in the Sunday World over the weekend that the government has paid millions for IPAS accommodation, to a company owned by a man currently awaiting sentencing for violent disorder and named by the Criminal Assets Bureau as being linked to the Drogheda gang feud were deeply worrying.
And around we go.
He doesn't own the company. You admitted that yourself.
CAB didn't 'link him' to anything. He was listed as one of a dozen witnesses to a shooting. And the Sunday World didn't claim that.
Did you even read the Sunday World article?
Again, you are allowed think for yourself. But you have accepted a far right talking point, the centers are criminal enterprises, and worked back using falsehoods.
I see Maria Steen rules out running in the Dublin Central by election.
Iona Institute obviously not going to stump up for a campaign?
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 21, 2025, 10:46:20 AMAnd around we go.
He doesn't own the company. You admitted that yourself.
CAB didn't 'link him' to anything. He was listed as one of a dozen witnesses to a shooting. And the Sunday World didn't claim that.
Did you even read the Sunday World article?
Again, you are allowed think for yourself. But you have accepted a far right talking point, the centers are criminal enterprises, and worked back using falsehoods.
He was a director of the company when they won the contract and "stepped back" when it became public
I watched a Sunday World video clip and (I'm going from memory here)-he and others with him were described as known criminals with close links to Cornelius Price
Yesterday you were claiming that no one called him a gangster and a criminal-that was a lie
Yesterday you claimed he had never been convicted of anything-and that was a lie
And you're lying again here trying to prop up a false narrative
Quote from: Rossfan on November 21, 2025, 11:40:04 AMI see Maria Steen rules out running in the Dublin Central by election.
Iona Institute obviously not going to stump up for a campaign?
She has no interest in actually being a politician. Work involved in running, work involved in being. The whole presidential thing was a stunt
Quote from: whitey on November 21, 2025, 11:46:08 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 21, 2025, 10:46:20 AMAnd around we go.
He doesn't own the company. You admitted that yourself.
CAB didn't 'link him' to anything. He was listed as one of a dozen witnesses to a shooting. And the Sunday World didn't claim that.
Did you even read the Sunday World article?
Again, you are allowed think for yourself. But you have accepted a far right talking point, the centers are criminal enterprises, and worked back using falsehoods.
He was a director of the company when they won the contract and "stepped back" when it became public
I watched a Sunday World video clip and (I'm going from memory here)-he and others with him were described as known criminals with close links to Cornelius Price
Yesterday you were claiming that no one called him a gangster and a criminal-that was a lie
Yesterday you claimed he had never been convicted of anything-and that was a lie
And you're lying again here trying to prop up a false narrative
He stepped away in July. He never owned the company. So false.
No he wasn't. Your memory is false.
Accepted, but the Dail language is all alledged. They didn't outright say it, but yes, they alluded to it.
He hasn't yet been convicted of the motoring offence. He pled guilty, yes, but there is no guarantees on sentence. He might get a slap on the wrist for a first offence.
So you haven't read the newspaper report, and certainly haven't read the CAB piece. But you rumble on.
I'm out. You are closing a false narrative to justify your prejudices. Facts won't change that.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 21, 2025, 12:33:30 PMQuote from: whitey on November 21, 2025, 11:46:08 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 21, 2025, 10:46:20 AMAnd around we go.
He doesn't own the company. You admitted that yourself.
CAB didn't 'link him' to anything. He was listed as one of a dozen witnesses to a shooting. And the Sunday World didn't claim that.
Did you even read the Sunday World article?
Again, you are allowed think for yourself. But you have accepted a far right talking point, the centers are criminal enterprises, and worked back using falsehoods.
He was a director of the company when they won the contract and "stepped back" when it became public
I watched a Sunday World video clip and (I'm going from memory here)-he and others with him were described as known criminals with close links to Cornelius Price
Yesterday you were claiming that no one called him a gangster and a criminal-that was a lie
Yesterday you claimed he had never been convicted of anything-and that was a lie
And you're lying again here trying to prop up a false narrative
He stepped away in July. He never owned the company. So false.
No he wasn't. Your memory is false.
Accepted, but the Dail language is all alledged. They didn't outright say it, but yes, they alluded to it.
He hasn't yet been convicted of the motoring offence. He pled guilty, yes, but there is no guarantees on sentence. He might get a slap on the wrist for a first offence.
So you haven't read the newspaper report, and certainly haven't read the CAB piece. But you rumble on.
I'm out. You are closing a false narrative to justify your prejudices. Facts won't change that.
Violent disorder is a now a motoring offense
Here's what Matt Carty said-
"In July I raised concerns about Secure Accommodation Limited and how we could have IPAS accommodation being provided by a company where a person who had been a director was linked to gangland criminality. This followed reports in the Sunday World that the government had paid millions for IPAS accommodation to a company owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau had linked to the Drogheda gang feud."
But as I always say-believe whatever you want
You are absolutely proud of your ignorance- pointedly refusing to research the case.
You aren't on the level, I'm out.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 22, 2025, 03:23:21 PMYou are absolutely proud of your ignorance- pointedly refusing to research the case.
You aren't on the level, I'm out.
https://youtu.be/XVT81UB-o-k
5:45 presenter reading from the CAB report
Lists all the people who were in the garden when the shooting occurred then goes on to say
"All these persons are suspected of involvement in criminality and are close associates of the Price/McGuire Organised Crime Gang"
Quote from: whitey on November 23, 2025, 04:46:17 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 22, 2025, 03:23:21 PMYou are absolutely proud of your ignorance- pointedly refusing to research the case.
You aren't on the level, I'm out.
https://youtu.be/XVT81UB-o-k
5:45 presenter reading from the CAB report
Lists all the people who were in the garden when the shooting occurred then goes on to say
"All these persons are suspected of involvement in criminality and are close associates of the Price/McGuire Organised Crime Gang"
Jesus man! Catch a f**king grip! You're the most useless Cnut I know..
I see Davy Burke has got into the IPAS lark.
But he's a GAA Man - So we'll look the other way....
Takes a long time for news to get to Mayo ::)
Quote from: Rossfan on November 23, 2025, 08:07:28 PMTakes a long time for news to get to Mayo ::)
Sadly, I used to like Davy - Came across as legitimate. Looks like he's one of many to take the handy Dollar.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2025, 06:28:02 PMQuote from: whitey on November 23, 2025, 04:46:17 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 22, 2025, 03:23:21 PMYou are absolutely proud of your ignorance- pointedly refusing to research the case.
You aren't on the level, I'm out.
https://youtu.be/XVT81UB-o-k
5:45 presenter reading from the CAB report
Lists all the people who were in the garden when the shooting occurred then goes on to say
"All these persons are suspected of involvement in criminality and are close associates of the Price/McGuire Organised Crime Gang"
Jesus man! Catch a f**king grip! You're the most useless Cnut I know..
That other poster claimed that the EX Director of the IPAS Center was merely mentioned in the CAB report as "a witness to a shooting". They categorically denied the CAB report mentioned the person having any links to criminality-WRONG
(He also denied that 2 Sinn Fein TDs referred to the person as a gangster and a criminal-WRONG ALSO)
(He also denied that the person in question had any criminal convictions—WRING AGAIN)
Don't know why you're getting mad at me. Im just pointing out things that 2 Sinn Fein TDS and the author of a CAB report had to say on the person in question
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 23, 2025, 08:11:44 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 23, 2025, 08:07:28 PMTakes a long time for news to get to Mayo ::)
Sadly, I used to like Davy - Came across as legitimate. Looks like he's one of many to take the handy Dollar.
How dare he make a living by engaging in commercial activity!!
You're making as big a floot of yerself as the other rhubarb.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 23, 2025, 08:55:18 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on November 23, 2025, 08:11:44 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 23, 2025, 08:07:28 PMTakes a long time for news to get to Mayo ::)
Sadly, I used to like Davy - Came across as legitimate. Looks like he's one of many to take the handy Dollar.
How dare he make a living by engaging in commercial activity!!
You're making as big a floot of yerself as the other rhubarb.
Himself ans Saint Banty are national heroes. And fools like you just turn a blind eye to the MONEY TRAIL and to what is really going on.
In the same vain - Would you consider Tuckers bringing lads into the Country illegally as a
commercial activity?
The nazifascist brigade wont like this
Little Irish flags waved in happy hands across a packed auditorium in Killarney on Monday at the first of six ceremonies which will see about 5,200 people granted Irish citizenship.
Applicants from more than 132 countries and from all 32 counties on the island will make a declaration of loyalty to the State and become Irish citizens at the INEC Killarney on Monday and Tuesday
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 23, 2025, 08:11:44 PMQuote from: Rossfan on November 23, 2025, 08:07:28 PMTakes a long time for news to get to Mayo ::)
Sadly, I used to like Davy - Came across as legitimate. Looks like he's one of many to take the handy Dollar.
Could you blame him? Banty is a multi multi millionaire from this IPAS scam. Moneys money.
It's not a scam.
He provided accomodation and got paid for it.
Shrewd entrepreneurism.
Quote from: Rossfan on December 01, 2025, 05:05:34 PMIt's not a scam.
He provided accomodation and got paid for it.
Shrewd entrepreneurism.
Ha! What is it they say? "Old slaves were in chains, new slaves are in denial". You've been had, Boomer!
I'm aright Jack, with zero social consequences. It's all good.
So the answer was?
Seems the province wide protesters (loyalist scum bags) are down at City hall, seems the flag is going up and there are live feeds on social media.
Comedy gold
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2025, 08:54:47 PMSeems the province wide protesters (loyalist scum bags) are down at City hall, seems the flag is going up and there are live feeds on social media.
Comedy gold
See if you asked any of those gobshites to point out Israel on a world map they wouldn't have a clue.
Come to think of it I doubt they could pick out Ireland and Britain...
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 01, 2025, 09:24:30 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2025, 08:54:47 PMSeems the province wide protesters (loyalist scum bags) are down at City hall, seems the flag is going up and there are live feeds on social media.
Comedy gold
See if you asked any of those gobshites to point out Israel on a world map they wouldn't have a clue.
Come to think of it I doubt they could pick out Ireland and Britain...
Some might have trouble doing that for a different reason; whether you recognise Israel as a state or not
In the same way one couldn't locate Londonderry on a map.
As I previously brought up b4, Israelis killed more British soldiers than the conflict over here, yet they run round with British and Israeli flags together, go figure!!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 02, 2025, 01:44:40 AMAs I previously brought up b4, Israelis killed more British soldiers than the conflict over here, yet they run round with British and Israeli flags together, go figure!!
It's simple... themmuns support Palestine, we'll support Israel...
Anyone see the video of the "Republicans" threatening politicians?
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 02, 2025, 09:19:30 AMAnyone see the video of the "Republicans" threatening politicians?
Yes, absolute cretins. The man reading was barely coherent. What accent is that?
I thought at one point the man on the left was perhaps a mannequin but I think he moved. Hope he didn't bump into anything with those sunglasses on.
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on December 02, 2025, 09:23:56 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 02, 2025, 09:19:30 AMAnyone see the video of the "Republicans" threatening politicians?
Yes, absolute cretins. The man reading was barely coherent. What accent is that?
I thought at one point the man on the left was perhaps a mannequin but I think he moved. Hope he didn't bump into anything with those sunglasses on.
Gobshites. They're unsurprisingly getting plenty of praise from knuckle dragging loyalists. Similar to the Coolock clowns you should really stop and think about what you're at if you find that breed of vermin agreeing with you.
Sounded more like a Dublin accent to me than a Newry or local. There's about 1000 different things they could take issue with that local politicians are making a balls of, but that is just pure racism.
More of Whitey's "heroes"
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on December 02, 2025, 09:23:56 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 02, 2025, 09:19:30 AMAnyone see the video of the "Republicans" threatening politicians?
Yes, absolute cretins. The man reading was barely coherent. What accent is that?
I thought at one point the man on the left was perhaps a mannequin but I think he moved. Hope he didn't bump into anything with those sunglasses on.
Coolock? Definitely not Newry
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1995607752002208064?s=20
Our Tommeh and the English far right support the Rah now.
Very thoughtful of him to care about us.
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 02, 2025, 09:28:40 AMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on December 02, 2025, 09:23:56 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 02, 2025, 09:19:30 AMAnyone see the video of the "Republicans" threatening politicians?
Yes, absolute cretins. The man reading was barely coherent. What accent is that?
I thought at one point the man on the left was perhaps a mannequin but I think he moved. Hope he didn't bump into anything with those sunglasses on.
Gobshites. They're unsurprisingly getting plenty of praise from knuckle dragging loyalists. Similar to the Coolock clowns you should really stop and think about what you're at if you find that breed of vermin agreeing with you.
Sounded more like a Dublin accent to me than a Newry or local. There's about 1000 different things they could take issue with that local politicians are making a balls of, but that is just pure racism.
I assume it was something to do with mass immigration, open borders and stopping boats?
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 02, 2025, 12:55:49 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 02, 2025, 09:28:40 AMQuote from: Banks of the Bann on December 02, 2025, 09:23:56 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 02, 2025, 09:19:30 AMAnyone see the video of the "Republicans" threatening politicians?
Yes, absolute cretins. The man reading was barely coherent. What accent is that?
I thought at one point the man on the left was perhaps a mannequin but I think he moved. Hope he didn't bump into anything with those sunglasses on.
Gobshites. They're unsurprisingly getting plenty of praise from knuckle dragging loyalists. Similar to the Coolock clowns you should really stop and think about what you're at if you find that breed of vermin agreeing with you.
Sounded more like a Dublin accent to me than a Newry or local. There's about 1000 different things they could take issue with that local politicians are making a balls of, but that is just pure racism.
I assume it was something to do with mass immigration, open borders and stopping boats?
Protect are children
As long as they're white and the abusers aren't.
Quote from: Rossfan on December 02, 2025, 01:34:05 PMAs long as they're white and the abusers aren't.
Am I wrong in saying the one abused by the Roma was mixed-race?
Quote from: Genocide Organ on December 02, 2025, 02:08:00 PMQuote from: Rossfan on December 02, 2025, 01:34:05 PMAs long as they're white and the abusers aren't.
Am I wrong in saying the one abused by the Roma was mixed-race?
Who?
A similar statement against drug dealers would suit them better ffs
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/ireland-wont-take-more-migrants-36371141.amp
As good a thread as any for this, apologies if already posted elsewhere.
What do we reckon?
A step in the right direction.
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 09, 2025, 08:57:13 AMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/ireland-wont-take-more-migrants-36371141.amp
As good a thread as any for this, apologies if already posted elsewhere.
What do we reckon?
I presume "migrants" in the context of the report means people applying for International Protection who make up less than 10% of numbers immigrating to here?
Or does it include work permit/work visa and student visa people.
Of course EU and GB people are free to come anytime.
US gov now explicit in its intentions, should see a few "coups" of EU nations in years to come. The hypocrisy is incredible given they helped create the mess and have occupation forces in Europe.
"Should present trends continue, the continent will be unrecognizable in 20 years or less. As such, it is far from obvious whether certain European countries will have economies and militaries strong enough to remain reliable allies. Many of these nations are currently doubling down on their present path. We want Europe to remain European, to regain its civilizational self-confidence"
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26341769-2025-national-security-strategy/
Quote from: DaleCooper on December 09, 2025, 12:23:53 PMUS gov now explicit in its intentions, should see a few "coups" of EU nations in years to come. The hypocrisy is incredible given they helped create the mess and have occupation forces in Europe.
"Should present trends continue, the continent will be unrecognizable in 20 years or less. As such, it is far from obvious whether certain European countries will have economies and militaries strong enough to remain reliable allies. Many of these nations are currently doubling down on their present path. We want Europe to remain European, to regain its civilizational self-confidence"
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26341769-2025-national-security-strategy/
They think immigration will overwhelm Europe. This is projection. The US white majority will become a minority. Feliz Navidad.
Quicker the better for the World's sake.
I'm sure the populations of Central and South America are delighted that the US under Trump has decided to turn it's attention towards the western hemisphere.
Likewise I'm sure the Taiwanese were heartened to hear Trump's musings about relocating their chip industry to the US. I wonder was he supposed to say that out loud.
Quote from: seafoid on December 09, 2025, 01:12:48 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on December 09, 2025, 12:23:53 PMUS gov now explicit in its intentions, should see a few "coups" of EU nations in years to come. The hypocrisy is incredible given they helped create the mess and have occupation forces in Europe.
"Should present trends continue, the continent will be unrecognizable in 20 years or less. As such, it is far from obvious whether certain European countries will have economies and militaries strong enough to remain reliable allies. Many of these nations are currently doubling down on their present path. We want Europe to remain European, to regain its civilizational self-confidence"
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26341769-2025-national-security-strategy/
They think immigration will overwhelm Europe. This is projection. The US white majority will become a minority. Feliz Navidad.
https://www.ft.com/content/e05535aa-4dbb-4cb5-998b-7495e96c59a9
*** Most concerning for leaders across the Atlantic is that the strategy portrays a Europe still committed to values and institutions not as an ally but as a rival or even a threat. The EU is accused of undermining political liberty and sovereignty. US officials bemoan a supposed contradiction between an EU that promotes policies "adverse" to US interests, such as the climate transition and tech regulation, and a Nato alliance — with many members in common — that still expects America to ride to its defence. There is a touch of absurdity to a document that vaunts the merits of national sovereignty while advocating — through support for populist nationalist parties in Europe — direct interference in other nations' sovereign affairs. Yet the strategy sets the course for a rupture that many in Europe have feared but have been reluctant to admit.
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on December 09, 2025, 02:54:23 PMI'm sure the populations of Central and South America are delighted that the US under Trump has decided to turn it's attention towards the western hemisphere.
Likewise I'm sure the Taiwanese were heartened to hear Trump's musings about relocating their chip industry to the US. I wonder was he supposed to say that out loud.
Biden has already put the wheels in motion for that, well for the ultra high end chips used in AI that is.
Another hero of some here....
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1211/1548334-connor-pollock-court/
Quote from: Rossfan on December 11, 2025, 02:05:21 PMAnother hero of some here....
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1211/1548334-connor-pollock-court/
Why hasn't the press/police told us his colour yet!!?? lol
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2025, 02:46:52 PMQuote from: Rossfan on December 11, 2025, 02:05:21 PMAnother hero of some here....
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1211/1548334-connor-pollock-court/
Why hasn't the press/police told us his colour yet!!?? lol
They only need that for hunting down rapists. "lol".
A hero to a few here no doubt!
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/1218/1549667-connor-pollock-court/
More of the cnuts burned a decent woman out of her business in Oldcastle today.
I see a post going around about a house in Newry "BEWARE ‼️‼️
New residents ALL MEN AGAIN. Location Bridge Street, Newry. Please Share 🙏"
Including a photo of a 3 or 4 foreign men, one foreigner whos probably barely in his teens and a middle aged white couple standing in front of a house.
See below actual context for the post
"This post is FAKE NEWS!!! It is being shared widely on Facebook without any proper fact checking at all!!! How dare people assume anything about the people living in this house & take a sneaky photo for the sake of stirring up hated 😡
This is a family living in our community who participate in community activities, work in our health service & have a child with special needs!!! This was a family Christmas party & they had Santa visit the house as well but you'll not see a picture of a big jolly man in a red suit at the door!!! I am absolutely disgusted at whoever started this vile racist attack on this young family. What the hell is wrong with you & everyone else who added their own vile comments to the post??!!! Shameful behaviour 🤬😠
*** PLEASE SHARE THIS CORRECT POST TO CLEAR UP THIS MESS ****"
Bit of infighting coming from our Neo Nazi British friends in Reform. Farage getting stick as Reform select a Muslim candidate to run for Mayor of London over Ant Middleton. (Doesnt he have a record and can't run anyway) Also what self respecting Muslim would join that shower of c***ts.
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/ni-political-party-quits-x-33211536?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZnRzaAPRyVlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeacWS6rJemoS18NMO6fQbhIFi3PvJG9GEA3UdRNm9PhravaIyDyO36beh7ag_aem_mYmJXbTC8iMwipP9KqsLaw#Echobox=1768217434
Fair play to the Greens.
I have always wondered why when the EU Commission and down are feuding with Twitter, the Brits are threatening to pull it entirely, that state agencies still use it and pay to do so.
Would the revenue threat of most government agencies and politicans not using it be a bigger stick?
Is there a difference between Grok and any other AI chatbot in this regard (chatgpt for example)?
Why is this in the far right thread BTW?
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 12, 2026, 02:29:13 PMIs there a difference between Grok and any other AI chatbot in this regard (chatgpt for example)?
Why is this in the far right thread BTW?
Yes. Only Grok allows you take a picture of a child and turn that into a hardcore pornographic video.
Because of it's owner.
Do the Far Right play gaelic football?
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 12, 2026, 02:34:15 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on January 12, 2026, 02:29:13 PMIs there a difference between Grok and any other AI chatbot in this regard (chatgpt for example)?
Why is this in the far right thread BTW?
Yes. Only Grok allows you take a picture of a child and turn that into a hardcore pornographic video.
Because of it's owner.
Because of trump being all over the epstein files the far right seem to have flipped and are now extremely protective of the rights of paedophiles. The issue on grok is just one example but led by musk and trump it's quite a turnaround.
It's probably a ploy for when the Epstein files do come out Trump will claim all the evidence of him being a pedo is AI
Niall McConnell making an eejit out of himself (as usual) and providing some good comedy in the process:
https://x.com/johnjazzharan/status/2011939609786163590?s=46