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Title: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: theskull1 on October 12, 2023, 10:26:33 PM
Is everyone aware of this pandemic treaty which will become a reality in 2025?

Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: dec on October 12, 2023, 10:40:01 PM
Here is a recent episode of BBCs More or Less which debunks John Campbells "excess deaths" figures

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gj8frd
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: JoG2 on October 12, 2023, 11:11:18 PM
Quote from: dec on October 12, 2023, 10:40:01 PMHere is a recent episode of BBCs More or Less which debunks John Campbells "excess deaths" figures

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gj8frd

But but John's a 'doctor' , he surely knows the craic  :o
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 13, 2023, 03:05:45 AM
Is this old fool still going?
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: Eire90 on October 13, 2023, 03:29:32 AM
didnt he not start off as regular doctor but then change his mind on things when he seen stuffr
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: trueblue1234 on October 13, 2023, 07:59:30 AM
Quote from: dec on October 12, 2023, 10:40:01 PMHere is a recent episode of BBCs More or Less which debunks John Campbells "excess deaths" figures

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gj8frd
Kind of ripped him a new one there.
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: AustinPowers on October 13, 2023, 09:30:29 AM
Maybe you should focus on what this   treaty entails
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: LeoMc on October 13, 2023, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 13, 2023, 09:30:29 AMMaybe you should focus on what this   treaty entails

Have you anything from someone not wearing a tin hat.
There is no consensus on anything beyond the need to be better prepared for the next pandemic.
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: RedHand88 on October 13, 2023, 01:03:22 PM
I've read through it and really don't see the issue. There is absolutely zero evidence it removes any human rights. It is more just about being better prepared for a future pandemic - share data, resources etc.

It's been debunked here
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/sep/05/facebook-posts/who-pandemic-preparedness-treaty-will-not-remove-h/ (https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/sep/05/facebook-posts/who-pandemic-preparedness-treaty-will-not-remove-h/)


It's a real pity people are taken in by this nonsense.
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: RedHand88 on October 13, 2023, 01:10:46 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on October 13, 2023, 03:29:32 AMdidnt he not start off as regular doctor but then change his mind on things when he seen stuffr

No. He is not a doctor and never was. He was a nursing teacher and got a doctorate in teaching methods, nothing to do with anything medical!

He went from posting videos about how to wash your hands which got 8k views to videos where he posts conspiracy nonsense and gets millions of views. It's easy to see what his incentives are for doing what he does €€€
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: theskull1 on October 13, 2023, 02:09:14 PM
Note that PolitiFact is a Bill and Melinda gates funded fact checker

And it has not been debunked.

"A WHO spokesperson told PolitiFact that member states agreed to draft and negotiate a convention or agreement to strengthen pandemic prevention, preparedness and response.

We found no evidence to suggest that this pandemic-focused accord would remove human rights protections, mandate surveillance or infringe on people's freedom of speech."



Read between the lines people.

"We found no evidence" as opposed to saying "it's explicitly stated that this would not remove human rights protections, would not mandate surveillance or infringe on people's freedom of speech."


The WHO is keeping things suitably vague as far as I can see and I believe they are trojan horsing this through along with compliant western governments. Have a read at this and see if you find anything related to ensuring human rights are protected.

https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/pandemic-prevention--preparedness-and-response-accord (https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/pandemic-prevention--preparedness-and-response-accord)
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: dec on October 13, 2023, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2023, 02:09:14 PMRead between the lines people.
The conspiracy loons seem to have no ability to read the lines so they resort to reading some imaginary nonsense that is hidden between the lines that they think supports their delusions.
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: RedHand88 on October 13, 2023, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2023, 02:09:14 PMNote that PolitiFact is a Bill and Melinda gates funded fact checker

And it has not been debunked.

"A WHO spokesperson told PolitiFact that member states agreed to draft and negotiate a convention or agreement to strengthen pandemic prevention, preparedness and response.

We found no evidence to suggest that this pandemic-focused accord would remove human rights protections, mandate surveillance or infringe on people's freedom of speech."



Read between the lines people.

"We found no evidence" as opposed to saying "it's explicitly stated that this would not remove human rights protections, would not mandate surveillance or infringe on people's freedom of speech."


The WHO is keeping things suitably vague as far as I can see and I believe they are trojan horsing this through along with compliant western governments. Have a read at this and see if you find anything related to ensuring human rights are protected.

https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/pandemic-prevention--preparedness-and-response-accord (https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/pandemic-prevention--preparedness-and-response-accord)


Not since 2016 they haven't. And do you know how many people fund Politifact?
About 4200.

What is this obsession with Bill Gates?!? 😆
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: theskull1 on October 13, 2023, 03:41:38 PM
Major funding for PolitiFact's parent company, The Poynter Institute, includes the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, Ford Foundation, Soros-backed Tides Foundation and Tides Center, the Carnegie Corp. of New York among many others.

One project of the Poynter Institute specifically, the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN), was launched in 2015 with its initial funding coming from the National Endowment for Democracy (backed by the US State Department), the Omidyar Network, Google, Facebook, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and George Soros' Open Society Foundations.


Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: Rossfan on October 13, 2023, 03:45:03 PM
The tin foil hat factory will be back in business soon.
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: AustinPowers on October 13, 2023, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 13, 2023, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 13, 2023, 09:30:29 AMMaybe you should focus on what this   treaty entails

Have you anything from someone not wearing a tin hat.
There is no consensus on anything beyond the need to be better prepared for the next pandemic.

Next pandemic, eh?

There hadn't  been one  in over a century , but  we're told there will   be another  one along shortly?

I doubt   this will  begin and end  with pandemics
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: RedHand88 on October 13, 2023, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 13, 2023, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 13, 2023, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 13, 2023, 09:30:29 AMMaybe you should focus on what this   treaty entails

Have you anything from someone not wearing a tin hat.
There is no consensus on anything beyond the need to be better prepared for the next pandemic.

Next pandemic, eh?

There hadn't  been one  in over a century , but  we're told there will   be another  one along shortly?

I doubt   this will  begin and end  with pandemics

7 pandemics in the last 100 years but ok.
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: LeoMc on October 13, 2023, 05:20:12 PM
Oh George Soros, who is both a Jew and a Nazi and Bill Gates, the computer nerd. it must be lies.

Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: J70 on October 13, 2023, 05:35:51 PM
So what, exactly, do the paranoid think SHOULD be the international approach to pandemics?

Just every individual say "f**k it, its all a lie, I don't comply"? Will that make it the outbreak just go away?

Or should lessons be taken on board and plans made for things like PPE, medical equipment and medicine stockpiles, sharing and distribution; medicine and vaccine development and collaboration; travel implications; help for poor nations; etc. etc.?
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: J70 on October 13, 2023, 05:42:07 PM
The US federal government (FEMA) did an emergency alert test the other week that sent an alarm notice to everyone's mobile phone, TV, radio etc.

There were a bunch of QAnon-type morons on Twitter warning to turn these devices off because the signal was going to activate vaccine-related things like nanoparticles and Marburg virus.
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 13, 2023, 06:30:08 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 13, 2023, 01:10:46 PMHe went from posting videos about how to wash your hands which got 8k views to videos where he posts conspiracy nonsense and gets millions of views. It's easy to see what his incentives are for doing what he does €€€

conspiracy nonsense seems to be a big money maker on youtube nowadays in the past it was cat videos or strange looking people dancing.
Title: Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 13, 2023, 06:54:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2023, 03:41:38 PMMajor funding for PolitiFact's parent company, The Poynter Institute, includes the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, Ford Foundation, Soros-backed Tides Foundation and Tides Center, the Carnegie Corp. of New York among many others.

One project of the Poynter Institute specifically, the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN), was launched in 2015 with its initial funding coming from the National Endowment for Democracy (backed by the US State Department), the Omidyar Network, Google, Facebook, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and George Soros' Open Society Foundations.

I mean this in the nicest way possible.
Get off the internet, turn off your computer and go outside.