Irish Athletics seems to be having a bit of a moment. Is it just me or is there an unprecedented amount of Irish athletes in the top flight at the minute?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 25, 2023, 07:11:07 PM
Irish Athletics seems to be having a bit of a moment. Is it just me or is there an unprecedented amount of Irish athletes in the top flight at the minute?
We still have a habit of coming 4th though.
Quote from: armaghniac on August 25, 2023, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 25, 2023, 07:11:07 PM
Irish Athletics seems to be having a bit of a moment. Is it just me or is there an unprecedented amount of Irish athletes in the top flight at the minute?
We still have a habit of coming 4th though.
In finals though - very rare we were getting to finals in the past 20 years
If you compare with the world Medals historically it looks cyclical. Even Coghlan and Sonia came fourth. Adeleke may be as great in time as Sonia. Her mother's interview with Ray D'Arcy was a hoot.
Rhasidat Adeleke will be a serious medal contender at Paris Olympics and certainly a strong gold prospect in LA, 2028. If protected and minded of course. Pulling her out of relay was a good sign in that regard. A lovely young woman, too. Paris could be a very good Olympics for Ireland across a variety of sports.
It is great to see the Athletics team smiling again. We have a strong athletics history going back a century and beyond
Ciara has had a super year and ran a phenomenal race in the 1500m final. Feckin Dutch girl who medaled should have skipped that event to help her win the 5,000m instead of tripling up
Adeleke looks an amazing talent. No guarantee she will kick on, but at this stage she really does look like a medal contender in Paris.
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Sarah Lavin has also had a great season and I expect her to make the 100m hurdles final in Paris.
Not sure we'll have any man in the Top 8 in any athletics event in the Paris Olympics.
Back in the late 70s and 80s pre-Sonia, we had Eamonn Coghlan, Ray Flynn, Marcus O'Sullivan and Frank O'Mara who were all serious middle distance runners. In fact that quartet still holds the 4 x 1 mile relay record. Also John Treacy at the longer distances. But yes for a minority sport in Irish terms, Ire is producing some talent again, esp among the women.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/athletics/2023/0826/1401822-structural-issues-in-lower-back-a-risk-for-adeleke/
Quote from: Hound on August 25, 2023, 10:46:32 PM
Ciara has had a super year and ran a phenomenal race in the 1500m final. Feckin Dutch girl who medaled should have skipped that event to help her win the 5,000m instead of tripling up
Adeleke looks an amazing talent. No guarantee she will kick on, but at this stage she really does look like a medal contender in Paris.
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Sarah Lavin has also had a great season and I expect her to make the 100m hurdles final in Paris.
Not sure we'll have any man in the Top 8 in any athletics event in the Paris Olympics.
Tommy Barr is a possibility. I don't think he is top eight but is a very good championship runner.
All of the success is tbh despite investment. Clubs do a great job in various places but it takes huge commitment from the individuals as it would be a real struggle to be pro.
The high performance team are quite impressive.
That 4 x 400m ladies relay team is as good as it gets ands I'm not talking about pace
Quote from: Pub Bore on August 26, 2023, 02:03:01 PM
Back in the late 70s and 80s pre-Sonia, we had Eamonn Coghlan, Ray Flynn, Marcus O'Sullivan and Frank O'Mara who were all serious middle distance runners. In fact that quartet still holds the 4 x 1 mile relay record. Also John Treacy at the longer distances. But yes for a minority sport in Irish terms, Ire is producing some talent again, esp among the women.
O'Sullivan and O'Mara were fantastic indoors in the late 80s / early 90s. Marcus 3 time indoor world champion, Frank twice. They probably underperformed at the big outdoor meets.
Coughlan the best of the lot. World outdoor champ in 1983, although didn't happen for him at the Olympics. 4th in 76 and 80. Would almost certainly have medaled in 84, but got injured. Apparently made a fortune on the indoor circuit in the US, where he was winning all around him in the late 70s / early 80s.
Good point re Thomas Barr tommygunn, he may well have made the final in these championships but for injury. There are a couple of young male sprinters emerging, esp Olatunde, but tough to have an impact at world level.
Maybe I was reading between the lines too much, but I thought there were a couple of wee digs made by the 4x400m team in their after-race interview about Adeleke not running. There doesn't seem to be any talk of Adeleke coming in for the final (other teams will have changes), which would shave 4 or 5 seconds off our time (our weakest in the team is a 54-55 runner, whereas Adeleke is 49-50 sec).
Gillick and derval o'rourke were fantastic indoors too. Wasn't sure with digs but I did think Adeleke could have ran. It would only extend her season by less than a week.
Realistically what we're looking at bar the very odd exception is European standard. Olatunde looks good but more European than world level. Indoors a good target for a lot too.
Adeleke was advised not to run on medical grounds.
Brilliant run to win the mixed 4x400m at the European Championships.
Adeleke really is special and Mawdsley is hardly shabby either. Stunning performance.
Is the mixed 4 x 400m in the Olympics?
Yup. Legit medal contenders for sure. You'd imagine the Americans will be pretty clear out in front and the Dutch won't be as poor again, but absolutely in with a shout.
That was magic. Unfortunately very few would have got to see it live on the RTE player as RTE chose Munster to be on RTE2 (in fairness coverage for this rest of the championship is pretty good I believe)
All four of them were superb. I don't know much about Chris O'Donnell but he ran a strong first leg and best of luck to him in the individual event tomorrow. Ancient Tom Barr running his best ever leg, Mawdsley was absolutely superb in the last leg, so composed and powered home to victory. But I thought Rhasidat was the key, she bullied and broke Klaver, who is a super athlete but couldn't live with our girl.
The interviews were a great tonic afterwards. 4 super people. And the day that's in it with so many anti-immigrant candidates, you had Rhasidat with as thick a Dub accent as I've heard on telly in a while. A proud day to have such a great Irish girl on this team.
Mawdsley actually ran a quicker split than Adeleke, second only to Bol on her leg but the ground Adeleke made up was staggering.
Quote from: gallsman on June 07, 2024, 10:31:36 PMMawdsley actually ran a quicker split than Adeleke, second only to Bol on her leg but the ground Adeleke made up was staggering.
They were both fantastic and will hopefully push each other on in the individual. The splits aren't 100% accurate but a very good guide, but still I believe breaking Klaver was the key to winning as it left Bol (the best female there) with too much to do. Mawdlsey was unbelievably calm in the final leg and stormed home!
Kind of hard to gauge with times as some have to stay in lane and some haven't and then there's the extra incentive of being on the last etc. Great running from both whatever and there's a bit of depth in the 400 womens with Healy and Becker too so who knows with the 4 x 400 women team if they have one in. If bol running gold very tough for adeleke but definitely a huge medal prospect at least.
Bit nervous for mageean - I hope she finally gets her gold but she'll not be used to being the target. I have a feeling if Sarah healy can manage her nerves she is a potential medal prospect too but I think a lot of things have to go right.
(Also great to see Tommy Barr get a medal. Seems like a nice guy who's worked hard at it for years and always performs above himself when it comes to championships)
Sarah Lavin in the final tonight. I'm not sure if it's 908 or 1008 it's at. She has a chance of a medal which would be great to see though she hopefully won't have left too much behind her with that semi performance.
Lavin a good bit off it there unfortunately.
Poor race but her pb is a good bit off any of the top ones there. Pity for her but that's sport I guess :(
Wasn't a championship record?
I think the winning time was. Lavin's interview was a tough watch but David gillick is pretty good with athletes in those scenarios.
When is Ciara Mageean's race?
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We have a class group of 400m runners,
The Steeplechase is such a bizarre event.
Why is it so poorly attended? It literally looks like family and friends only in the crowd.
Fingers crossed for Mageean tonight.
Seems a bit incongruous that Israel should be in the European championships, and it not being in Europe, while Russia...
Quote from: Sportacus on June 09, 2024, 09:12:42 PMWhy is it so poorly attended? It literally looks like family and friends only in the crowd.
Fingers crossed for Mageean tonight.
There are two Irish athletes in final.
Quote from: Turf on June 09, 2024, 09:24:01 PMQuote from: Sportacus on June 09, 2024, 09:12:42 PMWhy is it so poorly attended? It literally looks like family and friends only in the crowd.
Fingers crossed for Mageean tonight.
There are two Irish athletes in final.
Very good.
Fair play to her.
Healy in 7th also well done to her.
Fantastic run!
Brilliant stuff from Mageean. Senior gold at last!
Tough enough in the end having to fight her way through the middle of Reekie and Bell, thought she was about to fall
Yesss. She was the best there too - won by a bit in the end.
Ciara so deserves that gold... great champion
Quote from: burdizzo on June 09, 2024, 09:17:01 PMSeems a bit incongruous that Israel should be in the European championships, and it not being in Europe, while Russia...
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Have the 400M guys got a new coach?
Alberto Salazar ;)
In all seriousness it's a huge improvement or turn around these last few years
Fantastic. She had to scrap for that and that sums up her career. Amazing person.
You wait 26 years for a gold medal and then two come along at once. Well done Ciara.
Adeleke could get number 3 in the 400 metres.
I'd be surprised if adeleke doesn't win gold. Think mawdsley not quite good enough for a medal though hope I am wrong.
Womens 4 x 400 will also be interesting. There may be a medal prospect there.
When will she be presented with the gold medal now? Looking forward to that
Is the 400m final for women tomorrow?
Tomorrow but no idea what time on both fronts... The relay presentation was 430 I think so presumably sometime round then. If you follow David gillick on twitter he's pretty good at putting up itineraries. Cathal dennehy too.
Brilliant run by Ciara, looked at one stage like she was going to get boxed in. Delighted for her, An Dun Abu!!
Incredible. What a woman. Class, grace, desire and talent.
Best finish I've ever seen ......when do we ever get days like this? A wonder day!
Superb run by Ciara and great interview afterwards (years of camogie helping shoulder through the two British girls!)
2050 for the women's 400m final tonight.
She's a class act. Really looking forward to the 400m tonight too.
On a side note - Russia aren't banned due to Ukraine war they are banned due to "state sponsored doping".
Quote from: imtommygunn on Today at 08:43:36 AMShe's a class act. Really looking forward to the 400m tonight too.
On a side note - Russia aren't banned due to Ukraine war they are banned due to "state sponsored doping".
Wait till you hear about (SIR) Dave Brailsforth and triamcinolone...
Great run by Ciara and nowhere near her best time at the 1500, not even close, but I suppose its all about getting over that line first and she did it.
Her Da wasn't over at it, happen to get talking to him earlier on in the day before the Munster final came on and he was really nervous for her before it as she'd just finished a block of altitude training and it's not entirely sure how or when you get the gains from that and according to him she felt it could be another while for that to kick in, but hey ho if there's more in her then roll on the Olympics.
Them finals are tactical so times a struggle but tbh in the end she was comfortable enough. Big aim I imagine would now be a medal at the olympics which is a massive ask but she was there or thereabouts in the worlds. I still do think there's a chance that at some point she gets a retrospective bronze for the worlds.
It's not often she's favourite and she was definitely nervous herself too.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqeev9679n3o (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqeev9679n3o)
This I could believe...
Quote from: johnnycool on Today at 11:11:13 AMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqeev9679n3o (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqeev9679n3o)
This I could believe...
Class and you can understand that they'll need to be in Paris for the real event of the year, so its not always going to be the case that you can just go to every event.
My cousins lad in the same boat, away at all the gymnastic event around the world, impossible to afford to go to them all.
I'd Imagine that scene of her da running outside into the street is like a scene from a Roddy Doyle film
Disappointed for Thomas Barr. Missed out on a place in the 400m hurdles final. Still he goes home with a gold from the 4*400m.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 11:22:30 AMQuote from: johnnycool on Today at 11:11:13 AMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqeev9679n3o (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqeev9679n3o)
This I could believe...
Class and you can understand that they'll need to be in Paris for the real event of the year, so its not always going to be the case that you can just go to every event.
My cousins lad in the same boat, away at all the gymnastic event around the world, impossible to afford to go to them all.
I'd Imagine that scene of her da running outside into the street is like a scene from a Roddy Doyle film
RTE news interviewed the Hunter at the Ports pitch with a primary school hurling and camogie blitz going on (Ballygalget PS won both ;) ) so that'll please him even more ;D
Still a great run by Rhasidat - that race will stand to her going forward, maybe even as soon as the Olympics.
Quote from: weareros on Today at 08:58:04 PMStill a great run by Rhasidat - that race will stand to her going forward, maybe even as soon as the Olympics.
Great seeing Irish athletes getting medals, if they only won 1 silver overall it would have been great but a silver on top of two golds already in the bag is brilliant.
She'll be sore about losing but took a world lead to beat her. Only 21 or 22 so I would suspect plenty more opportunities including as said the olympics.