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All Ireland Semi finals.

Saturday, May 6th

Sligo v Kerry, Pearse Stadium, Salthill, 4.45pm.
Down v Kildare, Parnell Park, 7pm

All Ireland final May 13th.


Current odds to win the All-Ireland title.

Kerry 11/8
Kildare 3/1
Down 3/1
Sligo 4/1

Sligos odds are tempting

Each of the 4 semi-finalists have won 2 of their last 3 provincial titles.

Quote from: blanketattack on April 27, 2023, 08:28:51 PM
Each of the 4 semi-finalists have won 2 of their last 3 provincial titles.

WTF! Who won the other one of their last 3 provincial titles?  :P

Bloody ridiculous venue for the Kerry v Sligo game.

Ye always get fkn  Ennis or Limerick for games v Ros ;)

I don't like Ennis but it's the obvious and fairest venue for this game and a good pitch.

Rossies haven't done too bad in Ennis v Kerry anyway!  ::)

Quote from: larryin89 on April 27, 2023, 06:24:47 PM
Sligos odds are tempting

Yeah - I would have said it was fairly even between the 4 sides in terms of picking a winner.
Wouldn't touch Kerry at those odds - beyond the 4 goals Clare scored, they gave up an amount of goal chances in the Cork game.
This was in a game where Cork were pretty awful but Cork still had at least 5+ good goal chances.
They might win it out but 11/8 looks terrible value.
Definitely think there might be value in backing Sligo even if it's just to beat Kerry or beat the handicap in that game.

The Sligo and Kerry odds are almost totally based on history and reputation.
If the entire squads were swapped, the odds wouldn't differ.

Quote from: blanketattack on April 28, 2023, 05:11:19 PM
The Sligo and Kerry odds are almost totally based on history and reputation.
If the entire squads were swapped, the odds wouldn't differ.

I agree, it looks like a very tight one having watched both sides (on TV) and given the venue Sligo might have a slight advantage now.

Sligo manager in the interview there said Dillon Walsh who on his 18th birthday who scored the winning point in the Connacht final nearly died with Meningitis, on the road to recovery now and watching today's semi final in hospital

Speed recovery to Dillon Walsh.  Cagey enough half of football with defences on top.  Half time Kerry 0-6 Sligo 1-3.

40 mins played Kerry in front 0-8 to 1-4

50 mins played level game 0-8 to 1-5

55 mins played Sligo in front 1-7 to 0-8


Serious good result for good Sligo team.  FT Sligo 1-8 Kerry 0-9

Well done Sligo.

Great stuff Sligo, super achievement.

Any word on what the venue for the final will be?

Quote from: Hound on May 06, 2023, 06:20:12 PM
Great stuff Sligo, super achievement.

Any word on what the venue for the final will be?

Not decided yet, at a guess Breffni park

Well done Sligo such a controlled performance from such a young team (many of the starters are U20 again next year) Didn't allow losing Canice mulligan one of their best players to injury affect them as they stuck their task for hard earned and well deserved win. 

Down off to a flyer. 1-2 to 0-0 in front after 12 minutes.

Good start by Down,

Kildare number 8 looks to be going off with a break to his arm

Clear point by Kildare given wide there

Wishing Kildare midfielder a speedy recovery.

1-3 to 0-1 the latest, took Kildare until the 25th minute to get their first score.

Half time Down 1-4 Kildare 0-4.

Goal for Kildare, Down lead cut to 1 point. Makes for interesting finish.

Kildare should win this now.

45 mins played level 1-5 each.

Kildare with all the momentum here. Down look a bit rudderless

level game again with 10 minutes left. 1-6 each.  Two quick long range score for Kildare, Down hit back with a goal!  2-6 to 1-8 54 mins played.

Great score from Kildare no 14 and lightning counter from Down finishes to the net

Kildare have responded very well to that Down goal. Back in front again 1-10 to 2-6.  Two mins and whatever added time left.

4th minute of injury time wins it for Kildare 1-11 to 2-7

some balls to kick that winner when the pressure was on. Fair play Kildare. Also fair play to whoever marked Oisin Savage. May have had help with the sweeper but dont think savage got any meaningful touch from play until late in the game

Tough on Down there, thought extra time would finished that game better.

The better team won.

Down did very well to keep it that close. Kildare bigger, sharper, quicker... if not quite as ruthless until 63.57.

Outstanding Kildare. Time up, someone needed to have a shot, and what a point from the wing back off his weak foot. Superb, fully deserved this win.

The man of the match Kildare midfielder sounded like a pure Dub in the interview. Fair play to him!

Some way to win when it took Kildare so long without scoring.  Heart breaking defeat for Down but outscored 1-11 to 1-4 after the 25 minute and some of their best performers in the Ulster final weren't allowed to cause damage this evening.

Quote from: Nanderson on May 06, 2023, 08:25:16 PM
some balls to kick that winner when the pressure was on. Fair play Kildare. Also fair play to whoever marked Oisin Savage. May have had help with the sweeper but dont think savage got any meaningful touch from play until late in the game

Absolutely, be was marked out of it. Bitterly disappointed after this defeat.  Too many poorly aimed short passes which led to turnovers for Kildare, the last of which led to the winner. The best team won, but they made very hard work out of it.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 06, 2023, 08:32:46 PM
Some way to win when it took Kildare so long without scoring.  Heart breaking defeat for Down but outscored 1-11 to 1-4 after the 25 minute and some of their best performers in the Ulster final weren't allowed to cause damage this evening.

The winning score reminded me of the Cassidy screamer for Donegal v Kildare, whenever that was. 2011 I think.

Quote from: grounded on May 06, 2023, 08:40:11 PM

Quote from: Nanderson on May 06, 2023, 08:25:16 PM
some balls to kick that winner when the pressure was on. Fair play Kildare. Also fair play to whoever marked Oisin Savage. May have had help with the sweeper but dont think savage got any meaningful touch from play until late in the game

Absolutely, be was marked out of it. Bitterly disappointed after this defeat.  Too many poorly aimed short passes which led to turnovers for Kildare, the last of which led to the winner. The best team won, but they made very hard work out of it.

I thought the free out for Kildare after Down lost possession in the Kildare 21 was very harsh. Down had him surrounded but came from us turning the ball over then losing it immediately 

All Ireland final confirmed for Saturday, May 13th at 14.45 in Breffni Park.

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 06, 2023, 09:28:13 PM
All Ireland final confirmed for Saturday, May 13th at 14.45 in Breffni Park.

Ah, was hoping for Croker and I would have gone. One of the Sligo lads is a good mate of my son.

Breffni is fair enough and in a different province to the teams so not familiar to either of them
Big weekend next week for Sligo football, but it is a pity that everything is so compressed.

Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2023, 09:37:52 PM
Breffni is fair enough and in a different province to the teams so not familiar to either of them
Big weekend next week for Sligo football, but it is a pity that everything is so compressed.

Don't question the groupthink

Quote from: Nanderson on May 06, 2023, 08:54:02 PM

Quote from: grounded on May 06, 2023, 08:40:11 PM

Quote from: Nanderson on May 06, 2023, 08:25:16 PM
some balls to kick that winner when the pressure was on. Fair play Kildare. Also fair play to whoever marked Oisin Savage. May have had help with the sweeper but dont think savage got any meaningful touch from play until late in the game

Absolutely, be was marked out of it. Bitterly disappointed after this defeat.  Too many poorly aimed short passes which led to turnovers for Kildare, the last of which led to the winner. The best team won, but they made very hard work out of it.

I thought the free out for Kildare after Down lost possession in the Kildare 21 was very harsh. Down had him surrounded but came from us turning the ball over then losing it immediately

Kildare seemed to just have that momentum. Strangely it was after their midfielder got injured that their revival began. The big midfielder 22? That came on caused a lot of damage and probably should have started.
     As for us, i thought that bunch of players did us proud and gave us a little hope for the future. Today just a bridge too far. 

Quote from: Hound on May 06, 2023, 09:37:19 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 06, 2023, 09:28:13 PM
All Ireland final confirmed for Saturday, May 13th at 14.45 in Breffni Park.

Ah, was hoping for Croker and I would have gone. One of the Sligo lads is a good mate of my son.

You can still go, Cavan is 1.5 hrs from Dublin. It's not outer Mongolia.

Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2023, 09:37:52 PM
Breffni is fair enough and in a different province to the teams so not familiar to either of them
Big weekend next week for Sligo football, but it is a pity that everything is so compressed.

The semi final between both teams last year was in Breffni so it was inevitable. Should be a good match.

The final I see is a double header with Cavan's first round Tailteann cup game

Quote from: grounded on May 06, 2023, 10:02:13 PM

Quote from: Nanderson on May 06, 2023, 08:54:02 PM

Quote from: grounded on May 06, 2023, 08:40:11 PM

Quote from: Nanderson on May 06, 2023, 08:25:16 PM
some balls to kick that winner when the pressure was on. Fair play Kildare. Also fair play to whoever marked Oisin Savage. May have had help with the sweeper but dont think savage got any meaningful touch from play until late in the game

Absolutely, be was marked out of it. Bitterly disappointed after this defeat.  Too many poorly aimed short passes which led to turnovers for Kildare, the last of which led to the winner. The best team won, but they made very hard work out of it.

I thought the free out for Kildare after Down lost possession in the Kildare 21 was very harsh. Down had him surrounded but came from us turning the ball over then losing it immediately

Kildare seemed to just have that momentum. Strangely it was after their midfielder got injured that their revival began. The big midfielder 22? That came on caused a lot of damage and probably should have started.
     As for us, i thought that bunch of players did us proud and gave us a little hope for the future. Today just a bridge too far.

I'd agree on the number 8 injury and the stoppage in play. Hope the lad isn't too bad. Not sure where he picked the injury up. Did he dislocate his shoulder.  2 very good teams sickening to lose it with last kick. But Kildare deserved it. Best of luck in the final. We now need to bring some of these lads into senior set up for the tailteann and blood them. Hopefully these lads will meet again in a few years time in croke Park.  Good crowd in Parnell pk tonight.

Yeah it was a forced change when No 20 Hanafin came on and he really did a great job on Down's No 8 who was lording it. It also meant the keeper couldn't ping it long as much on him as our lad was bigger.

Ah like Kildare kicked some awful wides in that dry spell but they are really mature football wise. As the game went on the joint captains Harry O'Neill (2) and Farrell (9) came more involved and the centre back was starting to motor.

Amazing game and raging I'm away for the final. Hope they do it naturally but it's bad that you would be depriving a massive win for Sligo if we win.

They are essentially kids at that age so both teams made some silly mistakes but for heart on the sleeve football the Leinster Final and that game are heard to better.

Great win for Sligo and Kildare and sets up a real novel final pairing which is great for football as a whole. Would love to see Sligo win it outright now and given the calibre of the teams they have beaten they would have decent chance.

In the second game Kildare we're much the better side I felt, Down done well to stay in the game for as long as they did. Bad week for Laverty who will have learned that it's not really feasible to try double jobbing. They need to find a few bigger more physical players and veer away from running the ball up the field in every attack, they simply didn't have enough players who can win their own ball and the same thing is very evident at senior level.

Quote from: yellowcard on May 07, 2023, 01:06:40 PM
Great win for Sligo and Kildare and sets up a real novel final pairing which is great for football as a whole. Would love to see Sligo win it outright now and given the calibre of the teams they have beaten they would have decent chance.

In the second game Kildare we're much the better side I felt, Down done well to stay in the game for as long as they did. Bad week for Laverty who will have learned that it's not really feasible to try double jobbing. They need to find a few bigger more physical players and veer away from running the ball up the field in every attack, they simply didn't have enough players who can win their own ball and the same thing is very evident at senior level.

Don't see how anything Laverty done could have been done better if he wasn't double jobbing. Its good that he's gave lads that are between 18-22 now (in his 3 years as U20 manager) a taste of the style of football he wants to play and this should stand to them for the next hopefully 5 or so years that he should be given as a minimum. Yes there are some bigger men in Down but i'd rather we have as many of the best players playing rather than throwing in a couple of fellas who are 6ft+ just for the craic

Quote from: Nanderson on May 07, 2023, 01:50:34 PM

Quote from: yellowcard on May 07, 2023, 01:06:40 PM
Great win for Sligo and Kildare and sets up a real novel final pairing which is great for football as a whole. Would love to see Sligo win it outright now and given the calibre of the teams they have beaten they would have decent chance.

In the second game Kildare we're much the better side I felt, Down done well to stay in the game for as long as they did. Bad week for Laverty who will have learned that it's not really feasible to try double jobbing. They need to find a few bigger more physical players and veer away from running the ball up the field in every attack, they simply didn't have enough players who can win their own ball and the same thing is very evident at senior level.

Don't see how anything Laverty done could have been done better if he wasn't double jobbing. Its good that he's gave lads that are between 18-22 now (in his 3 years as U20 manager) a taste of the style of football he wants to play and this should stand to them for the next hopefully 5 or so years that he should be given as a minimum. Yes there are some bigger men in Down but i'd rather we have as many of the best players playing rather than throwing in a couple of fellas who are 6ft+ just for the craic

I wouldn't necessarily blame him either defeat but he seems to have an obsession with the Kilcoo blueprint and playing small ball carrying athletic players. It takes a lot of time and energy to prepare a side at senior county level and there are only so many hours in the week. Trying to manage about 70 players and back room teams simultaneously can't be easy and I can't see how it wouldn't have an impact.

When Laverty was appointed as Down's u20 manager, our total number of provincial titles at the three grades over the previous decade was zero. Given that he has now won two of the last three Ulster u20 championships, it is a little surprising to find some people questioning his performance.

Quote from: Mourne Rover on May 07, 2023, 02:44:26 PM
When Laverty was appointed as Down's u20 manager, our total number of provincial titles at the three grades over the previous decade was zero. Given that he has now won two of the last three Ulster u20 championships, it is a little surprising to find some people questioning his performance.

It's not surprising. But it is absolutely f**king absurd.

Quote from: yellowcard on May 07, 2023, 02:30:08 PM
I wouldn't necessarily blame him either defeat but he seems to have an obsession with the Kilcoo blueprint and playing small ball carrying athletic players. It takes a lot of time and energy to prepare a side at senior county level and there are only so many hours in the week. Trying to manage about 70 players and back room teams simultaneously can't be easy and I can't see how it wouldn't have an impact.

Might the obvious reason not be that we don't have good large ball carrying athletic players?

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 06, 2023, 09:28:13 PM
All Ireland final confirmed for Saturday, May 13th at 14.45 in Breffni Park.

An update, Throw in time changed to 1.30pm, Tailteann Cup Cavan v Laois game on after it at 4pm.

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 08, 2023, 01:25:35 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 06, 2023, 09:28:13 PM
All Ireland final confirmed for Saturday, May 13th at 14.45 in Breffni Park.

An update, Throw in time changed to 1.30pm, Tailteann Cup Cavan v Laois game on after it at 4pm.

Strange venue choice for kildare support to travel too

Didn't those Counties play the Semi Final there last year?
It's a real neutral venue for both.

Yes same venue as last years All-Ireland semi final between the two. Connacht champions v Leinster champions with the final played in Cavan. That's as neutral as it gets. Just Leitrim in between Cavan for Sligo and Meath in between for Kildare.

Are they expecting a big crowd for this? I recall a large crowd for an U20 All Ireland in Breifne years ago, but tbh I'm not sure its great time of day for it now, very early and lost amidst the senior stuff.

Cavan Laois is €20 quid I believe, that is double the price of the same Tailteann match last year I'd be expecting a fairly average crowd for that game tomorrow for various reasons.

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 12, 2023, 12:21:15 PM
Yes same venue as last years All-Ireland semi final between the two. Connacht champions v Leinster champions with the final played in Cavan. That's as neutral as it gets. Just Leitrim in between Cavan for Sligo and Meath in between for Kildare.

But would Croke Park not be better for an All Ireland final?

Quote from: Hound on May 12, 2023, 01:25:30 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 12, 2023, 12:21:15 PM
Yes same venue as last years All-Ireland semi final between the two. Connacht champions v Leinster champions with the final played in Cavan. That's as neutral as it gets. Just Leitrim in between Cavan for Sligo and Meath in between for Kildare.

But would Croke Park not be better for an All Ireland final?

Personally I think Croke Park should be used less, it's terrible unless at least half full. The atmosphere is awful and makes the game feel smalltime.

The hurling folk have sussed that out and that's another reason the Munster championship has such a good atmosphere, it's in sold out appropriate venues.

Quote from: Hound on May 12, 2023, 01:25:30 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 12, 2023, 12:21:15 PM
Yes same venue as last years All-Ireland semi final between the two. Connacht champions v Leinster champions with the final played in Cavan. That's as neutral as it gets. Just Leitrim in between Cavan for Sligo and Meath in between for Kildare.

But would Croke Park not be better for an All Ireland final?

Open for debate.  This is the 6th U20 AI final with 3 of them was played in Croke Park and the other three played in provincial grounds in Carrick On Shannon,Portlaoise and now Cavan.  Doubtful if the 2020,2021 finals would have been played in Croke park but for Covid.

The last 6 U21 All Ireland finals 2017 to 2012 the finals was played in Tullamore,Ennis.Parnell Park,Tullamore,Limerick and Tullamore again.

I used to be of the opinion all Finals should be in Croke Park.
But seeing the crowds and atmospheres at last year's Minor Football and Hurling Finals I've reconsidered.
Maybe as part of a triple header e.g Minor, U20 and Tailteann Finals the Saturday of AI Final weekend.

Best of luck to Sligo tomorrow, hope they can finish it out.

Like see Sligo. Win myself, I think they a good team and it's overlooked cause it a small county who knocked out a few big boys.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/dillon-walsh-makes-emotional-return-to-sligo-u-20-set-up-after-critical-situation-with-meningitis/a768889589.html

On Wednesday night, Dillon Walsh trained with the Sligo U-20s as they prepared for their EirGrid All-Ireland final clash with Kildare tomorrow. ​
An emotional, ceremonial return, it's only a couple of weeks since he kicked the winning point in the Connacht final on the night of his 18th birthday. But it's even less time since he was taken to hospital in a "critical" condition.

"Dillon ended up getting meningitis on us a few days after the Galway game so maybe five or six days after it (he) ended up being brought into hospital," says Sligo manager Paul Henry, picking up the story.

"He was brought in at 3.30am and he was very critical at the time. It definitely shook the whole group, it kind of showed them at the end of the day this is football and how things can change so drastically, so quickly.


"From a huge high after winning the Galway game, one of our group, one of our close friends, is in a critical condition and our hearts and minds were with the family. And also we have to thank Sligo General Hospital for the work they did with Dillon.

"He is a warrior, this guy is as tough as nails. And thankfully he came out the other side of it. He is getting stronger every day. It was a huge lift for the lads last night to see him. He put on his shorts, he was out running around the pitch, he did a few of the warm-ups with the lads and he is gradually starting to come back to himself, but it will take a bit of time and I am trying to explain that to him as well. He does not need to over-push himself at the minute. He is a great young lad, a very talented footballer, and he will get his day again."


He won't feature this weekend, a loss in the footballing sense as Sligo football prepares for one of its biggest days. Canice Mulligan also misses out through injury. But Henry suggests his team have mined some value from the incident.

"The day of the Connacht final was his 18th birthday, he was lifted on people's shoulders and carried around in our homecoming and on the pitch above in Tuam. And then when you realise that a young man who is so fit and so healthy and then, all of a sudden, that health is taken away from you and you really don't know what is going to happen then.

"Behind it all it is just football and we are very lucky to have it to be able and enjoy it. But life is life and I am very thankful that Dillon is on the mend."

Days like tomorrow have been all too rare for Sligo. Henry admits that a trip to Croke Park would have been the preferred setting but instead they head for Kingspan Breffni, hoping to build on the rising tide that is Sligo football.

Henry steered a number of this group to a Connacht minor title a couple of years ago while they have now won back-to-back provincial titles at U-20 level. This group have certainly done things the hard way, beating Connacht's big three in Roscommon, Mayo and Galway before taking out Kerry in the All-Ireland semi-final.


And tomorrow they face a Kildare side, a handful of whom played in last year's All-Ireland final at this grade. For Sligo and Henry, more of the same will do just fine.

"There are no egos in them. They just get on with has to happen. There's no one there that ends up feeling that they're any better than anybody else and they just work as a team. I suppose it's trying to make sure that we can end up continuing that and getting the lads to fight for each other. So far it's been working for them."

Interesting that both teams have said they would have preferred Croke Park for the final.

There's a few retail parks and supermarkets on the Dublin Road on the approach to Breffni, they be an ok place to park for the match?, about a 10 min walk to the stadium

Best of luck to Sligo today. It would be brilliant to see them win, and a massive boost to the county.

Yes, Best of Luck to Sligo!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv8Im63WwAUFQ08.jpg)

Would be a huge lift for Gaelic football in the county!

Forza Sligo. It would be an amazing achievement for the whole county to enjoy.
Never underestimate the power of preparation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FhlNKcyNCI

Kildare have won feck all either in fairness. It would be a big deal for them too. May the best team on the day win!

Quote from: Hound on May 13, 2023, 10:59:15 AM
Kildare have won feck all either in fairness. It would be a big deal for them too. May the best team on the day win!

They won it in 2018 and they have a much bigger population than Sligo. Ordinarily I'd be cheering the lilywhites, but not today.

Sligo up and running with their first score on 11 minutes.  Kildare 0-5 Sligo 0-1.

Kildare so far a bit more incisive, their system working well, getting balls in early to the forwards, while having lots of men back when Sligo attack and making fewer mistakes  But early days

Sligo kickouts shocking. Killing them.

Looked like a foot block, peno not given.

Half time Kildare 0-9 Sligo 0-4.  Kildare winning most of the personal battles, have their homework done of Sligo also and their main strengths.

Quote from: Rudi on May 13, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Looked like a foot block, peno not given.

Ref was playing advantage. Often happens when a second foul happens that the ref goes back to the first foul.  Not 100% sure it was in the box but looked a clear enough foot block alright.

Kildare the better team overall. Often they have gone from defence to attack with two big kicks. Sligo could do with a goal, which would get them right back in it.

Is it me or do Kildare always produce the same type of player? Very athletic and powerful but games smarts maybe a bit off at times. Is this why they struggle at senior level?

Looking like Kildare are going to go one better than last year and of course they beat Sligo on route to the All Ireland final last year and handful of todays players won the Hogan cup with Naas.

13 minutes into the 2nd half.  Sligo much improved 0-10 to 0-7

51 minutes played.  Kildare 0-13 Sligo 0-11


Poor kick out ends Sligo challenge/come back 1-14 to 0-11

Kildare 1-15 Sligo 0-12  five minutes of added time.

Sligo goalkeeper having a rough time.

Quote from: Rudi on May 13, 2023, 02:46:45 PM
Sligo goalkeeper having a rough time.

A minute he'll never forget, that's the way it goes sometimes

FT Kildare 1-17 Sligo 0-12.  Well done to Kildare, that's their 2nd U20 All Ireland title won since it became U20 in 2018.  As for Sligo 10 if not more of today's starting team are U20 again next year and should be the team to beat in Connacht.

Best team won but it was a one score game before Sligo gifted that goal to Kildare. Feel sorry for young Ethan Carden in goal, never nice to see especially in All Ireland final.  Congrats to Kildare, last years AI final disappointment distant memory now and with the players they have coming through they have no excuse not to be established Div 1 senior team in the years ahead.

Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 13, 2023, 02:05:33 PM
Is it me or do Kildare always produce the same type of player? Very athletic and powerful but games smarts maybe a bit off at times. Is this why they struggle at senior level?

Its just you.

Quote from: mup on May 13, 2023, 07:53:55 PM

Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 13, 2023, 02:05:33 PM
Is it me or do Kildare always produce the same type of player? Very athletic and powerful but games smarts maybe a bit off at times. Is this why they struggle at senior level?

Its just you.

Well said mup. Kildare senior team is jam packed with players who are good decision makers and give 100% in every single game. They never lie down. When the pressure is on, they stand up. Always.

Quote from: Hound on May 13, 2023, 08:44:33 PM

Quote from: mup on May 13, 2023, 07:53:55 PM

Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 13, 2023, 02:05:33 PM
Is it me or do Kildare always produce the same type of player? Very athletic and powerful but games smarts maybe a bit off at times. Is this why they struggle at senior level?

Its just you.

Well said mup. Kildare senior team is jam packed with players who are good decision makers and give 100% in every single game. They never lie down. When the pressure is on, they stand up. Always.

Nothing like a bitter Dub. Love it. Reservoir Dubs would welcome your contribution.

Quote from: mup on May 13, 2023, 08:50:18 PM

Quote from: Hound on May 13, 2023, 08:44:33 PM

Quote from: mup on May 13, 2023, 07:53:55 PM

Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 13, 2023, 02:05:33 PM
Is it me or do Kildare always produce the same type of player? Very athletic and powerful but games smarts maybe a bit off at times. Is this why they struggle at senior level?

Its just you.

Well said mup. Kildare senior team is jam packed with players who are good decision makers and give 100% in every single game. They never lie down. When the pressure is on, they stand up. Always.

Nothing like a bitter Dub. Love it. Reservoir Dubs would welcome your contribution.

That's hilarious from the bitterest man on the board!  Fantastic! 

You may have missed it, given your oh so salty imposition, but while most people were hoping for a Sligo win (understandably given their underdog status), I stated i was hoping the best team won (which I expected to be Kildare) and that they did.

I stated earlier on this thread that this was the best Dublin U20 team in years in terms of the number of lads who will progress to Dublin seniors,  and I stand by that. Kildare deservedly beat Dublin, I don't think any other team would have.
But Kildare have been matching the Dubs at underage for the last 20 years,, but at senior they continue to lack something.

The Newbridge or Nowhere game was such a great potential learning experience for Kildare. Every man gave everything he had for 70 minutes, and they beat one of the genuine AI contenders. But I don't think Kildare learned as much from that game as they should have.
That was the main reason Micko was so good for a Kildare. No man would dare leave the field having not given absolutely everything he had.

Its good to let it all out. Even after all your success.

Quote from: mup on May 13, 2023, 09:22:05 PM
Its good to let it all out. Even after all your success.

Says the man who's team won an All Ireland title and yet his only posts were to try and disparage other posters 😁😁😁

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Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 13, 2023, 02:05:33 PM
Is it me or do Kildare always produce the same type of player? Very athletic and powerful but games smarts maybe a bit off at times. Is this why they struggle at senior level?

Its just you.

Well said mup. Kildare senior team is jam packed with players who are good decision makers and give 100% in every single game. They never lie down. When the pressure is on, they stand up. Always.

Nothing like a bitter Dub. Love it. Reservoir Dubs would welcome your contribution.

That's hilarious from the bitterest man on the board!  Fantastic! 

You may have missed it, given your oh so salty imposition, but while most people were hoping for a Sligo win (understandably given their underdog status), I stated i was hoping the best team won (which I expected to be Kildare) and that they did.

I stated earlier on this thread that this was the best Dublin U20 team in years in terms of the number of lads who will progress to Dublin seniors,  and I stand by that. Kildare deservedly beat Dublin, I don't think any other team would have.
But Kildare have been matching the Dubs at underage for the last 20 years,, but at senior they continue to lack something.

The Newbridge or Nowhere game was such a great potential learning experience for Kildare. Every man gave everything he had for 70 minutes, and they beat one of the genuine AI contenders. But I don't think Kildare learned as much from that game as they should have.
That was the main reason Micko was so good for a Kildare. No man would dare leave the field having not given absolutely everything he had.

Population . Dublin's population was weaponised after Laois and Westmeath won Leinster.

'Weaponised'. Christ what utter nonsense.

Dublin's population is an advantage at underage level. An advantage that still doesn't make us the best at underage as only 15 can be on the pitch at a time.

Our senior team comes almost exclusively from lads who played minor and/or U20. If you haven't done that, you're highly unlikely  to play senior or even make the senior championship panel. There'll always be exceptions but very few, but the pool of players we pick from is usually limited to those rather than 1.6 million! In reality we've no bigger pick that Kerry. The top 100 players in Kerry and the top 100 Dublin players are probably at a similar enough level. Our best 26 is currently a little bit behind, probably.

The quality of club football in Dublin  is very high compared to most other counties, and that is down to population. This, imo, is a big reason why lads coming out of minor and U20 improve faster than many other counties, where club football has less depth.

Fenton. Not play underage I read somewhere.

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 15, 2023, 09:31:58 AM
Fenton. Not play underage I read somewhere.

Fenton played u21 for Dublin. Didn't play minor due to injury.

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Fenton. Not play underage I read somewhere.

Starter on 2014 U21 All-Ireland winning team.

All Ireland Semi finals.

May 11th

Tyrone v Roscommon,Breffni Park, 5pm - TG4
Meath v Kerry, emple Stadium, 3pm - TG4

All Ireland final May 18th.


Current Boyle odds to win the All-Ireland title.

Tyrone 6/4
Kerry  2/1
Meath 11/4
Roscommon 11/2

Quote from: Hound on May 14, 2023, 01:24:41 PM'Weaponised'. Christ what utter nonsense.

Dublin's population is an advantage at underage level. An advantage that still doesn't make us the best at underage as only 15 can be on the pitch at a time.

Our senior team comes almost exclusively from lads who played minor and/or U20. If you haven't done that, you're highly unlikely  to play senior or even make the senior championship panel. There'll always be exceptions but very few, but the pool of players we pick from is usually limited to those rather than 1.6 million! In reality we've no bigger pick that Kerry. The top 100 players in Kerry and the top 100 Dublin players are probably at a similar enough level. Our best 26 is currently a little bit behind, probably.

The quality of club football in Dublin  is very high compared to most other counties, and that is down to population. This, imo, is a big reason why lads coming out of minor and U20 improve faster than many other counties, where club football has less depth.

The fact that Dublin don't have many more players makes it all the more ridiculous the amount of centra funding they've received over the last 15 years. They've got something like 20
times more money than my own county. This allows them to have excellent coaching from a young age.

On top of that their population allows them to attract sponsorship which is ten times higher than other counties. This money should be used to provide the coaching not central money. Instead Dublin can use this to provide a highly professional senior set up which most counties could only dream off.

Dublin also benefit from most if not all players living in a small geographical county. This means less travelling costs and easier training schedules and recovery for players.

When you consider the already large advantages Dublin have over everyone else it's criminal the funding central
Gaa have been allocating them. And little wonder the success they've had.

On top of all the advantages allowing them to play so many games in croke park just adds to the farce of it all.

The money that Dublin get isn't an issue for me.

In a lot of sports,teams have more money, resources and supporters etc. than other teams.

It's the use of Croke Park which, to me, gives them a huge advantage. More than anything else.

Quote from: marty34 on May 05, 2024, 08:56:07 AMThe money that Dublin get isn't an issue for me.

In a lot of sports,teams have more money, resources and supporters etc. than other teams.

It's the use of Croke Park which, to me, gives them a huge advantage. More than anything else.

Can you name a team who have less money, less resources and less supporters in other sports who are successful?

I say Tyrone are the strongest team left, even though Meath beat them at Minor level 3 yrs ago.

Roscommon 7th u20/21 Connacht title since 2010.

6th isn't it?
2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2021 and this one.

Quote from: Rossfan on May 05, 2024, 11:52:33 PM6th isn't it?
2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2021 and this one.

Yes that should be 6.

Are the semis going to be curtain raisers for hurling championship matches?

In Breffni Park :o

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Quote from: Rossfan on May 06, 2024, 01:36:14 PMIn Breffni Park :o

A fairly central venue - where else would you play it?

I was responding to a post asking were hurley stuff games on with the Semis!

All Ireland B semi finals are on this weekend also.  inaugural staging of that competition

This Saturday
Westmeath v Limerick in Semple Stadium, Thurles at 1pm

On Sunday
Down v Mayo in Breffni park at 1pm

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 06, 2024, 07:16:44 PMAll Ireland B semi finals are on this weekend also.  inaugural staging of that competition

This Saturday
Westmeath v Limerick in Semple Stadium, Thurles at 1pm

On Sunday
Down v Mayo in Breffni park at 1pm

Embarrassing that Mayo were let into that competition. There are plenty of weaker counties that this competition would mean more to.

Ye qualified for it fair and square by yer own efforts ;D

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Quote from: Blowitupref on May 06, 2024, 07:16:44 PMAll Ireland B semi finals are on this weekend also.  inaugural staging of that competition

This Saturday
Westmeath v Limerick in Semple Stadium, Thurles at 1pm

On Sunday
Down v Mayo in Breffni park at 1pm

Embarrassing that Mayo were let into that competition. There are plenty of weaker counties that this competition would mean more to.

Down are also in it, after winning 2 of last 3 Ulsters. It gives players more game time. I think that's the objective here. Down drew with Tyrone and should've beat them in group. But have had a few poor outings so are where they deserve to be. 

The scheduling of the U20 All Ireland series all appears to be too rushed.  Roscommon at the biggest disadvantage with just 6/7 days between the Connacht final and All Ireland semi final.  Biggest match at lot of these 18 to 20 year olds will likely play in their careers and all teams should be given two weeks to prepare for All Ireland semi final and also another two weeks to prepare for the All Ireland final.

Big day today.
C'MON ROS💛💛💛💙💙

Meath shooting is poor. Kerry should see this through.

40 minutes played Kerry 0-10 Meath 0-8.

Tomas O'Se will be Jack O'Connor replacement in a couple years.

Kerry two points ahead 57 minutes played.

What the hell where Meath at there?, certain goal missed.

Two glorious chances butchered by Meath.

Meath threw that away.

Full back with a rush of blood to the head. G Meath really gonna not want to see the Injury time part of that game. Brutal.

Meath absolutely toothless.

Absolutely no composure shown.

Could have won that by 5 or 6 at the end.

Tyrone should make light work of the semi and final.

Meath completely choked a plethora of goal and point chances at the end.

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 11, 2024, 04:20:34 PMFull back with a rush of blood to the head. G Meath really gonna not want to see the Injury time part of that game. Brutal.

The no 3 could of got 1-2 on another day. All kicked wide.

The Rossies have started well.

Roscommon really struggling to win their own kick outs. Tyrone with the last 5 scores

Quote from: Gael85 on May 11, 2024, 05:03:22 PMThe Rossies have started well.

One way traffic since

Tyrone playing some good football. Just goaled and now 3 ahead.

Funny old game this. Direct ball in crippling Tyrone who look like they could overrun Roscommon sometimes but Roscommon really digging in there.

Game on now.

Game over now

6 & 15 for Roscommon to walk?

If Roscommon had showed the same fire during the game #daft

That's horrendous refereeing..  McHugh off for what?! Is that him out of the final?

What did Ruari McHugh do for that red?? Surely he couldn't miss an all Ireland final for that??

Ref nearly wet himself with excitement when the pushing broke out.

TG4 just shown the clip to Paul Devlin at the end and looks like McHugh did throw some sort of dig towards a Rossie on the way out before the melee. Didn't look to be anything in it but bit silly all the same considering what's at stake.

On a separate note, good from tg4 to be able to show these to managers whilst being interviewed. Gives an interesting angle on it.

Looked innocuous enough. Roscommon lad seemed to make a meal of it. Very severe to miss an All Ireland final..

Yes, they should just suspend him for a club league game in the middle of June for that.
Baffling logic.
It was a red card offence all day and he deserves to miss the next game at least for it.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 11, 2024, 06:52:02 PMYes, they should just suspend him for a club league game in the middle of June for that.
Baffling logic.
It was a red card offence all day and he deserves to miss the next game at least for it.

Unless you were there.. I'm going by TV footage

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Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 11, 2024, 06:52:02 PMYes, they should just suspend him for a club league game in the middle of June for that.
Baffling logic.
It was a red card offence all day and he deserves to miss the next game at least for it.

Unless you were there.. I'm going by TV footage

Turn it around, if a Roscommon player did it would you be calling for a red or was it just innocuous enough to merit a talking to?

Disappointing result, beaten by a very good team.  We would have needed nearly 90% conversion to stay in touch, and far better on our own kickouts. 
As the game went on, Tyrone were deadly clinical on the breaks, and we were getting caught between two stools between trying to push up, and then leaving acres of space for Tyrone to send in ball.
Fair play to Tyrone,  some fine players.  Best of luck in the final.

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Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 11, 2024, 06:52:02 PMYes, they should just suspend him for a club league game in the middle of June for that.
Baffling logic.
It was a red card offence all day and he deserves to miss the next game at least for it.

Unless you were there.. I'm going by TV footage

Turn it around, if a Roscommon player did it would you be calling for a red or was it just innocuous enough to merit a talking to?

I don't call for reds.. wave invisible card at ref to encourage him to send a player off .. nah.

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Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 11, 2024, 06:52:02 PMYes, they should just suspend him for a club league game in the middle of June for that.
Baffling logic.
It was a red card offence all day and he deserves to miss the next game at least for it.

Unless you were there.. I'm going by TV footage

The officials who consulted and decided that he deserved a red were there.
The Roscommon players who reacted like he was out of order were there.
I imagine the vast majority of people who viewed the footage you did would be satisfied that there was a strike or an attempted strike.
But, you are from his club so you see it differently.

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Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 11, 2024, 06:52:02 PMYes, they should just suspend him for a club league game in the middle of June for that.
Baffling logic.
It was a red card offence all day and he deserves to miss the next game at least for it.

Unless you were there.. I'm going by TV footage

The officials who consulted and decided that he deserved a red were there.
The Roscommon players who reacted like he was out of order were there.
I imagine the vast majority of people who viewed the footage you did would be satisfied that there was a strike or an attempted strike.
But, you are from his club so you see it differently.

I do

Should have won that but left too many chances out there. Interesting to see what happens next for these boys.

Quote from: thejuice on May 11, 2024, 11:30:22 PMShould have won that but left too many chances out there. Interesting to see what happens next for these boys.

The worrying thing was there was no Graham Geraghtys, Ollie Murphy's or Tommy Dowds on show today. No ruthlessness!

Quote from: Truthsayer on May 11, 2024, 06:43:09 PMLooked innocuous enough. Roscommon lad seemed to make a meal of it. Very severe to miss an All Ireland final..

He swung an arm out at someones face. Stupid thing to do when you're comfortably winning in any game but to do it in a semi final is lunacy. No one to blame but himself for it.

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Quote from: Truthsayer on May 11, 2024, 07:10:02 PM

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 11, 2024, 06:52:02 PMYes, they should just suspend him for a club league game in the middle of June for that.
Baffling logic.
It was a red card offence all day and he deserves to miss the next game at least for it.

Unless you were there.. I'm going by TV footage

The officials who consulted and decided that he deserved a red were there.
The Roscommon players who reacted like he was out of order were there.
I imagine the vast majority of people who viewed the footage you did would be satisfied that there was a strike or an attempted strike.
But, you are from his club so you see it differently.

He clearly throws an arm out. Don't know how hard he caught the Roscommon player but the intent was there. To do that in a semi final of a game you're winning comfortably is crazy. What a stupid thing to do

It was indeed stupid. No need for it.

As for the match itself we were well beaten by a superb team.
Size, pace, S&C all miles ahead of us.
We had a great rally after half time but messed up a few chances to equalise or get ahead.
Outscored 1-8 to 0-2 after.
Shocking small attendance 1,521 (80% at least Ros) for an All Ireland semi final, no sense of occasion about the whole thing, no promotion of any kind leading up to it etc.
Would having 2 week breaks between Provincial Finals, AI semis and Final cause the sky to fall?
Could still be done and dusted by end of May.

Quote from: Rossfan on May 12, 2024, 09:40:48 AMIt was indeed stupid. No need for it.

As for the match itself we were well beaten by a superb team.
Size, pace, S&C all miles ahead of us.
We had a great rally after half time but messed up a few chances to equalise or get ahead.
Outscored 1-8 to 0-2 after.
Shocking small attendance 1,521 (80% at least Ros) for an All Ireland semi final, no sense of occasion about the whole thing, no promotion of any kind leading up to it etc.
Would having 2 week breaks between Provincial Finals, AI semis and Final cause the sky to fall?
Could still be done and dusted by end of May.

No the sky wouldn't have fallen in if HQ scheduled things in that way but they don't really care about that or promoting the competition as they want U19 grade.

Best team certainly won but really silly that the Tyrone lad lost the head late on to got himself sent off and will miss the final now. The last 15/20 minutes Roscommon was out on their feet a direct result of the 7 day turnaround and how much energy they used to get back into the game.

Unlikely we'd have bet that Tyrone team anyway but a 2 week break would have been a great help.

The under 20 like the u21 before it throws up some fantastic games and should be promoted and used as an example and template of what gaelic football could be.

All-Ireland B semi final result. Winning score deep into added time.

Down 2-10 Mayo 0-15

Quote from: Rossfan on May 12, 2024, 09:40:48 AMIt was indeed stupid. No need for it.

As for the match itself we were well beaten by a superb team.
Size, pace, S&C all miles ahead of us.
We had a great rally after half time but messed up a few chances to equalise or get ahead.
Outscored 1-8 to 0-2 after.
Shocking small attendance 1,521 (80% at least Ros) for an All Ireland semi final, no sense of occasion about the whole thing, no promotion of any kind leading up to it etc.
Would having 2 week breaks between Provincial Finals, AI semis and Final cause the sky to fall?
Could still be done and dusted by end of May.

It's a pity as Tyrone just got him back from injury.

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 12, 2024, 02:32:41 PMAll-Ireland B semi final result. Winning score deep into added time.

Down 2-10 Mayo 0-15

Thank god for that. Don't know what the point of this competition is?

To help the weaker Counties ;D  :P

Quote from: Rossfan on May 12, 2024, 07:03:14 PMTo help the weaker Counties ;D  :P

 :(

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Quote from: Blowitupref on May 12, 2024, 02:32:41 PMAll-Ireland B semi final result. Winning score deep into added time.

Down 2-10 Mayo 0-15

Thank god for that. Don't know what the point of this competition is?

U20 is development, grade the more matches the better for players. And will be B and C grade competitions in the All Ireland series at U17/minor this year.

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Quote from: Blowitupref on May 12, 2024, 02:32:41 PMAll-Ireland B semi final result. Winning score deep into added time.

Down 2-10 Mayo 0-15

Thank god for that. Don't know what the point of this competition is?

U20 is development, grade the more matches the better for players. And will be B and C grade competitions in the All Ireland series at U17/minor this year.

Grand, then play the squad players in the B competition.

Ye were in it because ye're weak.
Last 6 Connacht u20 winners
Ros 2
Sligo 2
Galway 2

Quick turnaround can't have helped, Tyrone not as naive in the full backline as Galway were the week before. Couple of real standouts on that Tyrone team, after watching both semi finals I'd expect them too beat Kerry. 

What age is McGinley?

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Quote from: Blowitupref on May 12, 2024, 02:32:41 PMAll-Ireland B semi final result. Winning score deep into added time.

Down 2-10 Mayo 0-15

Thank god for that. Don't know what the point of this competition is?

U20 is development, grade the more matches the better for players. And will be B and C grade competitions in the All Ireland series at U17/minor this year.

The whole tiered championship adds an unnecessary amount of extra more or less meaningless games into an already bloated calendar.

Only in the GAA do you get people looking for less games for players.

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Quote from: Blowitupref on May 12, 2024, 02:32:41 PMAll-Ireland B semi final result. Winning score deep into added time.

Down 2-10 Mayo 0-15

Thank god for that. Don't know what the point of this competition is?

U20 is development, grade the more matches the better for players. And will be B and C grade competitions in the All Ireland series at U17/minor this year.

The whole tiered championship adds an unnecessary amount of extra more or less meaningless games into an already bloated calendar.

October I believe U20s panels commence training and for all the training in the world the players themselves wants more games. 

Quote from: From the Bunker on May 12, 2024, 06:41:00 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 12, 2024, 02:32:41 PMAll-Ireland B semi final result. Winning score deep into added time.

Down 2-10 Mayo 0-15

Thank god for that. Don't know what the point of this competition is?

why would you want less games for players at u20?

All-Ireland B Final

Saturday Páirc Tailteann 2:15pm

Down v Westmeath

All-Ireland final

Sunday O'Moore Park 1pm

Kerry v Tyrone

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 13, 2024, 03:57:24 PMAll-Ireland B Final

Saturday Páirc Tailteann 2:15pm

Down v Westmeath

All-Ireland final

Sunday O'Moore Park 1pm

Kerry v Tyrone

This weekend or next weekend?

This weekend.
They couldn't have had a double header there?

This weekend, HQ has to rush these competitions off as quickly as possible.

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Quote from: Blowitupref on May 13, 2024, 03:57:24 PMAll-Ireland B Final

Saturday Páirc Tailteann 2:15pm

Down v Westmeath

All-Ireland final

Sunday O'Moore Park 1pm

Kerry v Tyrone

This weekend or next weekend?

This Saturday and Sunday.

Paddy Neilan to referee u20 final.

All Ireland final at 1pm in Portloaise then back up the road to Croke Park for Springstein in the evening. Not a bad Sunday.

Quote from: omagh_gael on May 15, 2024, 09:06:29 AMAll Ireland final at 1pm in Portloaise then back up the road to Croke Park for Springstein in the evening. Not a bad Sunday.

Is that a Jewish cover band for the Boss?

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Quote from: omagh_gael on May 15, 2024, 09:06:29 AMAll Ireland final at 1pm in Portloaise then back up the road to Croke Park for Springstein in the evening. Not a bad Sunday.

Is that a Jewish cover band for the Boss?

Autocorrect obviously a part of the zionist elite 🤣

Who beat Dublin in this competition?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2024, 02:39:02 PMWho beat Dublin in this competition?

Louth as far as I recall.

Right, nearly sure I did Dublin v Derry in a challenge game before Derry played Dublin in the senior league and they beat Derry handy enough that day, sure only a challenge game and all that.. but they looked decent..

Maybe it was minor, not sure now!

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2024, 02:39:02 PMWho beat Dublin in this competition?

Louth as far as I recall.

Louth it was in the Leinster semi final in Parnell Park 1-13 to 1-9.  It's 2020 since Dublin have played in the U20 All Ireland series as in 2021,2022,2023 they were beaten in Leinster finals by Kildare twice and Offaly.

U20 championship started in 2018 the All Ireland winners so far

2023 - Kildare
2022 - Tyrone
2021 - Offaly 
2020 - Galway
2019 - Cork
2018 - Kildare

Last eight winners of the U21 All Ireland championship which played a big part in Dublin's senior success.

2017 - Dublin
2016 - Mayo
2015 - Tyrone
2014 - Dublin
2013 - Galway
2012 - Dublin
2011 - Galway
2010 - Dublin

We lost to the eventual Champions every year 2010 to 2016.
13 and 16 particularly galling.

I believe it's €25 for the Final.
A bit steep!

Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2024, 03:44:30 PMWe lost to the eventual Champions every year 2010 to 2016.
13 and 16 particularly galling.

I believe it's €25 for the Final.
A bit steep!

Yes Roscommon arguably should beaten Galway,Mayo in the 2013,2016 U21 Connacht finals and then the two neighbours went on to win the All Ireland.

€25 is silly pricing after less that stellar attendances at the two semi finals last weekend.

Can anyone from Dublin tell me why Ciarán Archer who would be around 24 now hasn't made the step up to Dublin senior team and is he even on the panel at the moment?

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 03:54:33 PMCan anyone from Dublin tell me why Ciarán Archer who would be around 24 now hasn't made the step up to Dublin senior team and is he even on the panel at the moment?

Former Dublin star Ciaran Archer has proposed 96-week ban overturned (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/former-dublin-star-ciaran-archer-has-proposed-96-week-ban-overturned/a200451781.html)

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 03:54:33 PMCan anyone from Dublin tell me why Ciarán Archer who would be around 24 now hasn't made the step up to Dublin senior team and is he even on the panel at the moment?

A talented player but don't think he better than what on panel now. Quality freetaker but for me doesn't do enough from play  and without the ball. He was on senior panel in 2022 but picked up an injury and never got back in.

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Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 03:54:33 PMCan anyone from Dublin tell me why Ciarán Archer who would be around 24 now hasn't made the step up to Dublin senior team and is he even on the panel at the moment?

A talented player but don't think he better than what on panel now. Quality freetaker but for me doesn't do enough from play  and without the ball. He was on senior panel in 2022 but picked up an injury and never got back in.

A few of the forwards on the Dublin panel at the moment Ross McGarry,Killian O'Gara,Lorcan O'Dell,Killian McGinnis. He must have fallen back a fair bit from his days standing out at U20 level if not better than some of them now.

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 05:15:39 PM

Quote from: Gael85 on May 16, 2024, 05:07:40 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 03:54:33 PMCan anyone from Dublin tell me why Ciarán Archer who would be around 24 now hasn't made the step up to Dublin senior team and is he even on the panel at the moment?

A talented player but don't think he better than what on panel now. Quality freetaker but for me doesn't do enough from play  and without the ball. He was on senior panel in 2022 but picked up an injury and never got back in.

A few of the forwards on the Dublin panel at the moment Ross McGarry,Killian O'Gara,Lorcan O'Dell,Killian McGinnis. He must have fallen back a fair bit from his days standing out at U20 level if not better than some of them now.

Them lads bar O'Gara would be in half forward line. O'Gara prob won't be in 26 when everyone is back. U20 is hard to gage. Massive difference from the old u21 in terms of making step up to make step up to senior. Dublin had a few talented lads at u20 like James Doran and Mark Lavin who also haven't make step up to senior.

Dublin pick up players standing out Club level more than underage football.

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Quote from: Blowitupref on May 12, 2024, 02:32:41 PMAll-Ireland B semi final result. Winning score deep into added time.

Down 2-10 Mayo 0-15

Thank god for that. Don't know what the point of this competition is?

U20 is development, grade the more matches the better for players. And will be B and C grade competitions in the All Ireland series at U17/minor this year.

The whole tiered championship adds an unnecessary amount of extra more or less meaningless games into an already bloated calendar.

October I believe U20s panels commence training and for all the training in the world the players themselves wants more games. 

Ulster counties went to the Ulster council wanting less games at Minor and U20 and Ulster council went to national council who came back with more games, everything had to have a round robbing system and tiers. Make of that what you will. Dilutes the competitions, ruins crowd numbers and takes away from Club Scene as well.

Ye Nordies won't be happy till the GAA stops the nuisance of playing pesky games......

Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2024, 10:56:06 AMYe Nordies won't be happy till the GAA stops the nuisance of playing pesky games......

Games with stakes is what the people want.

When did "the people" pick you as their spokesperson?

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Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2024, 10:56:06 AMYe Nordies won't be happy till the GAA stops the nuisance of playing pesky games......

Games with stakes is what the people want.

Ulster final and and All Ireland semi final was games with stakes and attendances wasn't great and at 25 euro a ticket for the All Ireland final I don't expect overly big crowd either.

Players themselves wants more games and It's a development grade so for me the more games the better.

Game at 1pm, €25 a ticket....
The GAA don't always help themselves..  .

Down 1-10 Westmeath 0-10 in the All-Ireland U20FC B final yesterday.


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Quote from: Gael85 on May 16, 2024, 05:07:40 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 03:54:33 PMCan anyone from Dublin tell me why Ciarán Archer who would be around 24 now hasn't made the step up to Dublin senior team and is he even on the panel at the moment?

A talented player but don't think he better than what on panel now. Quality freetaker but for me doesn't do enough from play  and without the ball. He was on senior panel in 2022 but picked up an injury and never got back in.

A few of the forwards on the Dublin panel at the moment Ross McGarry,Killian O'Gara,Lorcan O'Dell,Killian McGinnis. He must have fallen back a fair bit from his days standing out at U20 level if not better than some of them now.

He's definitely better at kicking points than any of them, but there's more to being an intercounty player than that. His club being in D3 doesn't help with being able to play himself back in.

After 15 minutes Tyrone 1-4 Kerry 0-4. Lucky deflection on the goal but a good run through by the defender Joey Clarke. 2nd goal chance for Tyrone off the foot of the post now.

Cud be a bit further ahead.. going well though tearing holes in the Kerry defence.

Half time Tyrone 1-8 Kerry 0-7

Tyrone good value for that lead. A good former defender and current manager in Tomás O Sé will have to improve Kerry defensively 2nd half to stand a chance of winning this final.

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Roscommon last week and Kerry today have made Tyrone's task easier by leaving themselves wide open defensively once turned over. That type of defending doesn't happen too often Ulster.

Scoreline flattering Kerry... Tyrone much better team but need to convert it into a few more scores. 4 in it.

Tyrone not clinical in front of posts. Could come back to haunt them.

Tyrone should be out of sight in this game.

43 minutes played Kerry hanging in there thanks to how wasteful Tyrone have been including two goal line clearances a few moments ago. 1-11 to 0-11.

That Tyrone no 11 is a good footballer.

Handy win even though they spurned a rake of chances. Derry was their toughest game... houl on Kerry goal! Jeez! Tyrone should be out of sight!

Wtf was that black card about. Not that it matters. Tyrone are strong at this level the huers

FT Tyrone 1-20 Kerry 1-14.  Tyrone's 2nd U20 All-Ireland title in three years. Wait goes on for Kerry it's 2008 since they won U20/21 All-Ireland.

Quote from: Gael85 on May 19, 2024, 02:03:43 PMThat Tyrone no 11 is a good footballer.

quality.would imagine being drafted into senior panel potential be best 11 since mcguigan.

That is a class Tyrone team. Well done on the victory.

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Quote from: Gael85 on May 19, 2024, 02:03:43 PMThat Tyrone no 11 is a good footballer.

quality.would imagine being drafted into senior panel potential be best 11 since mcguigan.

I think u20 is too soon. Let him play a season of club football and him into set up next year. Class player.

Very convincing win. A good team. All Ireland champions! Comhghairdeas!

Tyrone much the better side and they played good football in the process, I think Dooher will be picking up the phone for no.11 very shortly.

Derry will feel that was an AI that got away as they were the 2 best teams in the country and they should have beaten Tyrone in the Ulster final.

Num 11 excellent, equally was the num 14, the amount of assists he was involved in as well as scoring was v high

They won't care however Tyrone should have won that final by 15+ points.  What's with all the number 11 talk? Anyone that has been watching him stand out at minor,schools or U20 this year should know Eoin McElholm name at this stage.

Tyrone should have had that won much earlier but it was impressive that they didn't let the missed opportunities then Kerry's late mini revival get to them. Kept the heads and finished the job. McElhom rightfully getting lots of plaudits but so many excellent players in that team. Plenty hope for Tyrone football for the next few years.

Derry wouldn't have been far away from winning it either. It was a very tight Ulster final. They could be counted as the moral champions.

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Quote from: statto on May 19, 2024, 02:22:48 PM

Quote from: Gael85 on May 19, 2024, 02:03:43 PMThat Tyrone no 11 is a good footballer.

quality.would imagine being drafted into senior panel potential be best 11 since mcguigan.

I think u20 is too soon. Let him play a season of club football and him into set up next year. Class player.

#11 mcElholm is u20 again next season too

Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 19, 2024, 02:55:06 PMDerry wouldn't have been far away from winning it either. It was a very tight Ulster final. They could be counted as the moral champions.

Using that logic I'm sure tyrone could have 'won' a few more titles at underage.

Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 19, 2024, 02:55:06 PMDerry wouldn't have been far away from winning it either. It was a very tight Ulster final. They could be counted as the moral champions.

Probably won't have long to wait as will likely be favourites to win the 2025 U20 All Ireland.

Had to wait to get out of Ulster to show their footballing ability

Congrats to Tyrone. One of the best U20 teams in a long time. Whatever about Ulster, they were unbeatable outside and Kerry did well to keep it to 6 points. Pure speed and power.

Kerry a lucky team to make the final. Made a very good Tyrone team look even better.

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 19, 2024, 03:01:57 PM

Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 19, 2024, 02:55:06 PMDerry wouldn't have been far away from winning it either. It was a very tight Ulster final. They could be counted as the moral champions.

Probably won't have long to wait as will likely be favourites to win the 2025 U20 All Ireland.

Tyrone have a lot of this years team still underage next year and even the year after.
McAneney, Joey Clarke, Ben Hughes, Conor Devlin (2 years left), Callum Daly, Conor O'Neill (2 years left), Eoin McElholm, Ruairi McCullagh (2 years left) and Callum Daly. So Tyrone will probably be looked at as favourites going into next years competition.

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Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 19, 2024, 03:01:57 PM

Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 19, 2024, 02:55:06 PMDerry wouldn't have been far away from winning it either. It was a very tight Ulster final. They could be counted as the moral champions.

Probably won't have long to wait as will likely be favourites to win the 2025 U20 All Ireland.

Tyrone have a lot of this years team still underage next year and even the year after.
McAneney, Joey Clarke, Ben Hughes, Conor Devlin (2 years left), Callum Daly, Conor O'Neill (2 years left), Eoin McElholm, Ruairi McCullagh (2 years left) and Callum Daly. So Tyrone will probably be looked at as favourites going into next years competition.

Back to back All Ireland titles hasn't been won at U20/U21 level for over 20 years.

Derry who was probably a year ahead of schedule could easily have taken out Tyrone in the Ulster final a few weeks ago in normal time and extra time.  They'll be stronger next year by adding a lot of their 2022,2023 minors to their U20 panel. One of those minor teams was close to winning the All Ireland and the other won the All Ireland so Derry's U20s should be very strong next year and 2026.

Derry at Under 20 level don't translate from their strong minor teams.Too often the senior team took importance and the U20 team suffered for it. Not playing Murray and McVoy in last years final a prime example. Am convinced they won if they played. McGrogan and Coney few years before that. We go through various managers also, without the steady 3yr manager we got at Minor.

You would expect to see Tyrone being strong at this level with Omagh CBS school dominance. They could have won that game by a lot more and were a much better team. The number 5 is a serious player too.

Derry were very good but I don't think they have that quality of forward in their team.

The Kerry 13 (and 15 too to a lesser degree) were very good players. I'd expect to see one of two of them in the next few years but overall they just weren't as strong.

An entertaining match which was a lot better than a lot of senior games you'd see.

Quote from: From the Bunker on May 19, 2024, 10:25:53 PMKerry a lucky team to make the final. Made a very good Tyrone team look even better.

Meath kicked the semi final away.

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Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 19, 2024, 02:47:28 PMThey won't care however Tyrone should have won that final by 15+ points.  What's with all the number 11 talk? Anyone that has been watching him stand out at minor,schools or U20 this year should know Eoin McElholm name at this stage.

Thought I was going crazy. McElholm is the main man on this Tyrone team. Like referring to R. Canavan in '22 as the #12

U20 All Ireland Championship Semi-Finals

Sunday 11th of May  -  O'Moore Park, 14:00 Kerry v Tyrone
Friday, 16th May  Pearse Park 19:00 Mayo v Louth

Odds to win the Alll Ireland.

Tyrone 13/8
Kerry 2/1
Mayo 5/2
Louth 6/1


All Ireland B Semi finals

May 11th Moorefield Newbridge, 15:00 Limerick v Monaghan
May 14th Dr Hyde Park,  18:30  Leitrim v Westmeath

Goal  for Tyrone on 17 mins played in O Moore park.  Kerry 0-2 Tyrone 1-5.

Good recovery by Kerry with five points in a row  0-7 to 1-5.

Did McElholm play basketball? Got that we dummy bounce - a favourite of basketballers

Christ above that should've been a point all day long from Liam Og but he wanted the goal. All that had to be done was first it over

Some finish that for a 2nd Tyrone goal. Kerry so close to a goal straight after three blocks on the line.

Half time Tyrone 2-8 Kerry 0-9

Another great game!! Tír Eoghain abú!

Kerry dominating midfield area and will rue these missed chances. Few bad wides and butchered 2 goal chances whereas Tyrone are ruthless up front - that is the difference

Quote from: Mikhailov on May 11, 2025, 02:38:30 PMKerry dominating midfield area and will rue these missed chances. Few bad wides and butchered 2 goal chances whereas Tyrone are ruthless up front - that is the difference

You have nailed it. Was a very harsh 1st half score line on Kerry. With the wind advantage Tyrone should kick on to win by a few points to spare now.

These kickouts are killing us. Just put your boot through it surely at this stage

Kerry seem to have no clue how to break down a defence

Just a point from another big goal chance for Kerry. 7 mins to play Tyrone 2-11 Kerry 0-14.

Defending champions into the All Ireland final. FT Tyrone 2-14 Kerry 0-14

Was that last free for Tyrone not a 2 pointer?

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Quote from: Mikhailov on May 11, 2025, 02:38:30 PMKerry dominating midfield area and will rue these missed chances. Few bad wides and butchered 2 goal chances whereas Tyrone are ruthless up front - that is the difference

You have nailed it. Was a very harsh 1st half score line on Kerry. With the wind advantage Tyrone should kick on to win by a few points to spare now.

Wasn't really harsh. Kerry had a spell towards half time where they took control at midfield and quickly got a few scores but Tyrone had been well on top previously, cutting through the Kerry defence and leaving a few scores behind. The second goal after Kerry's wee spell put a fairer reflection on the half.

Second half comfortable enough. Couple of poor decisions from Kerry boys when in promising positions meant they never really got close enough. Better team won without any doubt.

Kerry had the chance to get more out of that second half but our defensive unit put them under serious pressure. Defence won that game there, Joey Clarke was sensational winning ball and bring ball out of defence.

6 point margin wasn't a fair reflection to how that game played out but Tyrone clinical with their goal opportunities and Kerry wasteful. If Mayo reach the final they have forwards in Berine,Lydon,Hurley who are clinical in their own right though not sure would the defence be able to handle McElholm,McCullagh.

Tyrone will find out Friday who they'll play in the All-Ireland final.

Louth v Mayo in Pearse Park 7pm live on the TG4 player.



All-Ireland B semi-final results

Played Sunday in Moorefield.

Limerick 0-24 Monaghan 3-17

And played tonight in Hyde Park.

Westmeath 3-20 Leitrim 0-17.

Mayo v Louth All Ireland semi final starting at 7pm and on this link https://www.tg4.ie/ga/player/seinn/?pid=6254005171001

Lively opening 10 minutes  Louth 1-3 Mayo 0-3.   Four points in a row for Mayo levels it up 1-4 to 0-7 after 22 mins.

The pace of this game is unreal, they won't be able to keep it up, especially on a warm evening

Quote from: Tubberman on May 16, 2025, 07:28:10 PMThe pace of this game is unreal, they won't be able to keep it up, especially on a warm evening

Serious pace alright.  Not the best of defending by Mayo on the Louth goal.  HT Louth 2-5 Mayo 0-8

Already in the opening stages of this 2nd half you can see fatigue setting in with that heat.

45 minutes played. Mayo's first score of the 2nd half a two pointer.  Louth 2-6 Mayo 0-10,  two more Mayo points to level it up.

Louth back in front with 10 minutes to play  2-7 to 0-12.  Another two pointer has Mayo one point in front.   

Louth with a two pointer to lead by one point.  And now Mayo respond with two pointer from a free to lead again.   Louth two pointer free puts them in front going into added time.

Level again with  3 added minutes left.  Louth one point in front seconds left.      Louth into the All Ireland  2-12 to 0-17

Level

Louth win it  by a point. Hard luck Mayo.

Hard station in life being a Mayo supporter.

Well done to Louth.  A great week for the county.

Error ridden half decided on fine margins. Well done Louth deserved their first ever U20/21 All-Ireland final appearance.

Quote from: bennydorano on May 16, 2025, 08:25:44 PMHard station in life being a Mayo supporter.

Better than most actually

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Quote from: bennydorano on May 16, 2025, 08:25:44 PMHard station in life being a Mayo supporter.

Better than most actually

Mayo generally have a good underage record. When they have a good team they can go all the way. The team this evening had good forwards. In truth either team could have won. Louth will enjoy the all Ireland experience.

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Quote from: bennydorano on May 16, 2025, 08:25:44 PMHard station in life being a Mayo supporter.

Better than most actually

Not as hard as many would imagine. Most of our Minor, u20 and Senior teams are at the business end of the championship most seasons.  That how we get noticed if we lose.

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Quote from: bennydorano on May 16, 2025, 08:25:44 PMHard station in life being a Mayo supporter.

Better than most actually

Not as hard as many would imagine. Most of our Minor, u20 and Senior teams are at the business end of the championship most seasons.  That how we get noticed if we lose.

Yeah I don't get that narrative at all. They've lost a lot of senior finals sure but they're competitive at all level. A lot of counties get nowhere at any grade.
Being a die-hard football man in a county like that has to be infinitely worse.

Always good to see underdog going on a run, what odds was Louth to win Leinster before that competition started? and now find themselves in All Ireland final.  Athletic grounds the possible venue for the All Ireland final v Tyrone?

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Quote from: bennydorano on May 16, 2025, 08:25:44 PMHard station in life being a Mayo supporter.

Better than most actually

Mayo generally have a good underage record. When they have a good team they can go all the way. The team this evening had good forwards. In truth either team could have won. Louth will enjoy the all Ireland experience.

Mayo have won 3 underage all Ireland titles in the last 40 years (u21 2006,2016 and minor in 2013). Wouldn't exactly regard that as a good underage record.

Why is there not hooter?

You'd swear the way the Mayo boys were going on that their U20 side were going to walk the all ireland

Great to see Louth on the up though.

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 17, 2025, 10:58:12 AMYou'd swear the way the Mayo boys were going on that their U20 side were going to walk the all ireland

Great to see Louth on the up though.

Before the campaign started confidence was naturally high among Mayo supporters. Had the pick from three Connacht U17 winning teams and the oldest players from 2022 probably felt they had unfinished business with losing the All Ireland final. 

In Connacht U20 this year against Galway in the group stage and Roscommon in the Connacht final they could easily have lost both of those games and issues defensively was seen in those matches which Louth exploited last night especially for both goals.  Still Mayo won Connacht which was their first U20 provincial since 2018 a side that had Jordan Flynn,Ryan O'Donoghue and Tommy Conroy. 

Tyrone will be strong favs for the final I'd imagine.

Quote from: twohands!!! on May 17, 2025, 04:45:47 PMTyrone will be strong favs for the final I'd imagine.

Very strong Tyrone team - be hard not to see them winning with a bit to spare

Any word on when the final is scheduled?

hearing Wednesday week in Armagh

Final confirmed for Wednesday May 28th in the Athletic Grounds at 7:30pm

The B All Ireland final was played Wednesday night with Westmeath winning 3-1 on penalties after the game finished 1-15 each after Extra-Time at Breffni Park.

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Odds

Tyrone  1/7
Louth 5/1
Draw (after 60 mins)  1/12

Good crowd in at the Box-It Athletic Grounds.

Keeper going to cost us the game. The amount of kickouts we lose is serious. Can he not go short once or twice because his long kickouts are brutal to watch

15 minutes played a goal for Tyrone puts them in front.  Louth 0-4 Tyrone 1-2.

Louth have made a mockery of the pre-match odds in that 1st half, fully deserve their half time lead. 

A 2nd goal Tyrone via a poor kick out before the break.  Half time Louth 0-8 Tyrone 2-7

That ball off the ground call was up there with the worst one off decisions a ref has ever made  ;D  :D

Tyrone's ability to produce really small but incredibly skillful forwards amazes me.

That Grimes lad oozes class.

Quote from: Jayop on May 28, 2025, 07:56:30 PMThat ball off the ground call was up there with the worst one off decisions a ref has ever made  ;D  :D

Think it was for throw ball? But even then it wasn't a throw ball lol

How Tyrone are 5 up is beyond me! Ruthless with the chances and Louth had bad wides. Some really nice footballers in this Louth team especially around the middle.

Good game

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Quote from: Jayop on May 28, 2025, 07:56:30 PMThat ball off the ground call was up there with the worst one off decisions a ref has ever made  ;D  :D

Think it was for throw ball? But even then it wasn't a throw ball lol

Haha I had posted throw ball first then edited it to off the ground. I guess the call for thrown ball isn't as bad.

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 28, 2025, 08:01:31 PMTyrone's ability to produce really small but incredibly skillful forwards amazes me.

That Grimes lad oozes class.

Has stepped up when McElholm McCullagh was marked out of it in that 1st half.  Harsh score line on Louth however not helping themselves with the manner of the goals they conceded.

The first Tyrone goal was a beautiful thing. 50 odd yard pass and I'm screaming at the forward to skin him and he obliges.

Unusually the Tyrone squad hasn't many from the main traditional clubs. No Trillick or Carrickmore men, just one from Errigal. Donaghmore have the most representation.

Just watching it.

Is it too risky now, especially from this year, to go short with kickouts?

The amount of kick outs going astray and being punished is lethal.

Quote from: marty34 on May 28, 2025, 08:20:01 PMJust watching it.

Is it too risky now, especially from this year, to go short with kickouts?

The amount of kick outs going astray and being punished is lethal.

I hope so

Jesus but was I wrong about the new rules! This is great stuff

I'd say the defender was as much to blame as the keeler for the second goal. He'd no need to be inside the arc and that definitely confused the keeper.

Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 28, 2025, 08:15:25 PMUnusually the Tyrone squad hasn't many from the main traditional clubs. No Trillick or Carrickmore men, just one from Errigal. Donaghmore have the most representation.

Carrickmore and Errigal ones might be a year or 2 away from it yet. Likes of Fintona, Donaghmore and Cookstown be better represented in the coming years

38 mins played,  Four points in a row for Louth .  Tyrone 2-9 Louth 0-13.

Louth goal chance to level the game comes off the crossbar down the field Tyrone go to score 1-1 in a minute a big swing.  3-11 to 0-13 to Tyrone after 43 minutes.

How the f**k are Tyrone ahead? Madness

Definitely very entertaining. Louth very good but the goals may kill them.

Ah jaysus game near over.

Mad. 2 serous goal chances for louth and Tyrone get 1-1 from them

Grimes kept them in it when they were struggling and now they have started playing. TBF defense very well setup.

4th Tyrone goal McElholm so clinical with his opportunities in this 2nd half.   48 mins played Louth 0-13 Tyrone 4-12. 

Game over but the score doesn't come close to telling the whole story here. Was down to two points and Louth could have had two goals. Fantastic match

Would Tyrone not make a few changes give lads a runout and younger lads experience?

Quote from: thebigfullforward on May 28, 2025, 08:37:21 PMWould Tyrone not make a few changes give lads a runout and younger lads experience?

Wise up.

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Quote from: thebigfullforward on May 28, 2025, 08:37:21 PMWould Tyrone not make a few changes give lads a runout and younger lads experience?

Wise up.

? Genuine question. 53 minutes gone and 1 change made

The game isn't over yet.

Louth have missed serious chances here..

Quote from: Onthe40 on May 28, 2025, 08:44:10 PMLouth have missed serious chances here..

Story of the game

8 point game and three bad two-pointer misses.

Need to brush up on my native tongue.... did the commentator say shea mcdermott was daisy mcdermotts son?

Yep they had a chance to close it a lot there. I still think Tyrone would have pulled away though. McElholm unmarkable at this level.

FT Tyrone 5-16 Louth 0-17.  Back to back U20 All Ireland titles for Tyrone.  Score line didn't do justice to the Louth performance but achievement in itself for them to reach the final.

Looks like a rout on the scoreline but it was still in the mixer with 6 to go. Great win for Tyrone! By my reckoning it's only the 4th time in history we've gone back to back at this, Sr or minor.

Quote from: imtommygunn on May 28, 2025, 08:50:22 PMYep they had a chance to close it a lot there. I still think Tyrone would have pulled away though. McElholm unmarkable at this level.

Plays like a Canavan with a better hairline

Quote from: Grace Murphy on May 28, 2025, 08:50:09 PMNeed to brush up on my native tongue.... did the commentator say shea mcdermott was daisy mcdermotts son?

Yeah Daisy's cub. Think he's still minors for club this year? Anyone confirm that?

Tyrone by far the best team. TYRONE SHOULD BAG ANOTHER COUPLE OF ALL IRELANDS BY END OF THE DECADE.

lovely angle of Paul dook at the end. Seen less tyres on a silo

Was about to ask what age he was as he looked very young. 1-1 in a 5 or 6 minute cameo in an all Ireland final ain't half bad.

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Quote from: Grace Murphy on May 28, 2025, 08:50:09 PMNeed to brush up on my native tongue.... did the commentator say shea mcdermott was daisy mcdermotts son?

Yeah Daisy's cub. Think he's still minors for club this year? Anyone confirm that?

Daisy was a serious forward but never really fulfilled his potential. Looks like he is one to watch

Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 28, 2025, 08:15:25 PMUnusually the Tyrone squad hasn't many from the main traditional clubs. No Trillick or Carrickmore men, just one from Errigal. Donaghmore have the most representation.

They'd a generational batch in Donaghmore, St Joseph's school won a lot with them through the years including the McLarnon and then went for the MacRory year after with Grimes & co. Back down to B & C grades now. I'm sure the Donaghmore club will have high hopes for these lads at Senior.

I'm. 43 and talk for a living and I couldn't speak half as well as young Grimes there.

What age is Grimes?

Will need a bit of bulking for senior level but he has serious quality.

Never a 14 point winning margin match however Louth defence was open for goals and Tyrone especially McElholm was clinical 2nd half with 2-3.  Grimes deserved his man of the match award.  Louth will look back on what they missed six two pointer frees kicked wide over the 60 minutes between their goalkeeper and full forward.

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2025, 09:02:03 PMNever a 14 point winning margin match however Louth defence was open for goals and Tyrone especially McElholm was clinical 2nd half with 2-3.  Grimes deserved his man of the match award.  Louth will look back on what they missed six two pointer frees kicked wide over the 60 minutes between their goalkeeper and full forward.

Tyrone where streets ahead of Louth.

Quote from: Jayop on May 28, 2025, 08:50:56 PMLooks like a rout on the scoreline but it was still in the mixer with 6 to go. Great win for Tyrone! By my reckoning it's only the 4th time in history we've gone back to back at this, Sr or minor.

Ach it wasn't really in the mixer with 6 to go, Tyrone were cruising after the burst of scores with about 15 mins left. Tough on Louth who competed well and particularly impressive around the middle. Couple of close things at key times might have kept them in it longer but ultimately Tyrone had a bit more composure throughout the team and too much class in the forwards. Well done to them, a great victory.

Hope to see lots of lads from both sides kicking on and making an impact at senior level.

Well done Tyrone.

Any chance that them boyos will now discover women and drink, and let other counties win?

It wasn't in the mixer because Louth didn't take their chances. Even if they had, at the same time Tyrone were missing chances of their own. Could easily have had another 2-3 goals in that second half. Definitely a cut above and a thoroughly well deserved win.

Louth probably needed more of a lead in the first half - goals borderline against the run of play - but once Tyrone got going thy weren't getting beat. Some fantastic individuals up front and a very solid defense. Devlin obviously a great coach too.

Louth are a decent team regardless.

Was a joy to watch Tyrone tonight.

Mixed it up well with a mix of hard running kickpassing and unbelievable support off the receiver of the kick pass. Along with classy forward play.

Quote from: Grace Murphy on May 28, 2025, 09:02:57 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2025, 09:02:03 PMNever a 14 point winning margin match however Louth defence was open for goals and Tyrone especially McElholm was clinical 2nd half with 2-3.  Grimes deserved his man of the match award.  Louth will look back on what they missed six two pointer frees kicked wide over the 60 minutes between their goalkeeper and full forward.

Tyrone where streets ahead of Louth.

Did you watch the match on the radio?

Match stats from gaelicstatsman


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Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on May 28, 2025, 09:03:47 PM

Quote from: Jayop on May 28, 2025, 08:50:56 PMLooks like a rout on the scoreline but it was still in the mixer with 6 to go. Great win for Tyrone! By my reckoning it's only the 4th time in history we've gone back to back at this, Sr or minor.

Ach it wasn't really in the mixer with 6 to go, Tyrone were cruising after the burst of scores with about 15 mins left. Tough on Louth who competed well and particularly impressive around the middle. Couple of close things at key times might have kept them in it longer but ultimately Tyrone had a bit more composure throughout the team and too much class in the forwards. Well done to them, a great victory.

Hope to see lots of lads from both sides kicking on and making an impact at senior level.

I'm a bit tipsy but I think Tyrone were the better team clearly. However them two late goal chances Louth had could have changed the game.

Tyrone defo had the better quality especially up front
Was it 5 scores with 1st 5 attacks living of scraps at that stage ?
Won a semifinal and final with no midfield . Takes some doing

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2025, 09:15:54 PM

Quote from: Grace Murphy on May 28, 2025, 09:02:57 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2025, 09:02:03 PMNever a 14 point winning margin match however Louth defence was open for goals and Tyrone especially McElholm was clinical 2nd half with 2-3.  Grimes deserved his man of the match award.  Louth will look back on what they missed six two pointer frees kicked wide over the 60 minutes between their goalkeeper and full forward.

Tyrone where streets ahead of Louth.

Did you watch the match on the radio?

You can't watch things on radio.

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2025, 09:15:54 PM

Quote from: Grace Murphy on May 28, 2025, 09:02:57 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2025, 09:02:03 PMNever a 14 point winning margin match however Louth defence was open for goals and Tyrone especially McElholm was clinical 2nd half with 2-3.  Grimes deserved his man of the match award.  Louth will look back on what they missed six two pointer frees kicked wide over the 60 minutes between their goalkeeper and full forward.

Tyrone where streets ahead of Louth.

Did you watch the match on the radio?

They won by 14 points. Tyrone different gravy.

Quote from: Onthe40 on May 28, 2025, 09:46:36 PMTyrone defo had the better quality especially up front
Was it 5 scores with 1st 5 attacks living of scraps at that stage ?
Won a semifinal and final with no midfield . Takes some doing

It's like the noughties all over again.

Tyrone's 5-16 all coming from play is one of the craziest stats I've ever seen.

That Louth u20 team have some immense footballers and with the success of their senior team makes an exciting future for Louth.

It's unbelievable to think that some of them Tyrone lads at 19/20 years of age already have multiple all Ireland medals with county/school.

Tyrone fully deserved their win. On the balance of play 5 to 7 point margin would be a better reflection.  14 points separated the sides at the end with how ruthless Tyrone was and Louth far too wasteful. All the Tyrone players talked well after the match all knew they were in tough game regardless of the margin in the end, sounds very competitive at club and schools level and that keep them ticking over for the U20 grade. 

Should be another Ulster winner of this competition next year with the last two U17 All Ireland finals all Ulster finals. 

Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2025, 11:08:29 PMTyrone fully deserved their win. On the balance of play 5 to 7 point margin would be a better reflection.  14 points separated the sides at the end with how ruthless Tyrone was and Louth far too wasteful. All the Tyrone players talked well after the match all knew they were in tough game regardless of the margin in the end, sounds very competitive at club and schools level and that keep them ticking over for the U20 grade. 

Should be another Ulster winner of this competition next year with the last two U17 All Ireland finals all Ulster finals. 

Tyrone's team over the next two years wouldn't stand out as much as the previous 4. Although Conor Devlin, Conor O'Neill and Ruairi McCullagh are still underage which is a good starting block. Derry should be the front runners for the next two seasons.

Tyrone had Ruairi Canavan & McElhom which were massive factors in recent successes
No other county had a forward anywhere near that quality at this level

Tyrone lost once this year when McElhom wasn't playing

It was some template for attacking football.
Of course most teams won't have enough players capable of executing such.
That's 3 out of the last 4 u20s won by Tyrone so we can expect them to take another few Sams by 2030.

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 29, 2025, 09:31:21 AM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2025, 11:08:29 PMTyrone fully deserved their win. On the balance of play 5 to 7 point margin would be a better reflection.  14 points separated the sides at the end with how ruthless Tyrone was and Louth far too wasteful. All the Tyrone players talked well after the match all knew they were in tough game regardless of the margin in the end, sounds very competitive at club and schools level and that keep them ticking over for the U20 grade. 

Should be another Ulster winner of this competition next year with the last two U17 All Ireland finals all Ulster finals. 

Tyrone's team over the next two years wouldn't stand out as much as the previous 4. Although Conor Devlin, Conor O'Neill and Ruairi McCullagh are still underage which is a good starting block. Derry should be the front runners for the next two seasons.

Derry are indeed the team to watch at this age group for 2026 and 2027.

Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 29, 2025, 11:59:32 AM

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 29, 2025, 09:31:21 AM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2025, 11:08:29 PMTyrone fully deserved their win. On the balance of play 5 to 7 point margin would be a better reflection.  14 points separated the sides at the end with how ruthless Tyrone was and Louth far too wasteful. All the Tyrone players talked well after the match all knew they were in tough game regardless of the margin in the end, sounds very competitive at club and schools level and that keep them ticking over for the U20 grade. 

Should be another Ulster winner of this competition next year with the last two U17 All Ireland finals all Ulster finals. 

Tyrone's team over the next two years wouldn't stand out as much as the previous 4. Although Conor Devlin, Conor O'Neill and Ruairi McCullagh are still underage which is a good starting block. Derry should be the front runners for the next two seasons.

Derry are indeed the team to watch at this age group for 2026 and 2027.

Derry's two AI minor victories probably put them in the hotseat, but Monaghan, Tyrone and Donegal will all be ready to take on that mantle. 

If memory serves me right Tyrone probably should've beat Monaghan in their Ulster semi final (Minor 2023) but couldn't close out in normal time or extra time despite being 4/5pts up both times. And only lost on penalties. They'll be keen to right that wrong.

Monaghan will be out for revenge having lost the 2023 Ulster and AI finals.

Four Masters and Abbey Vocational have produced a couple of very good teams in the last two years, and almost took out Tyrone this year in the U20s.

So next year's Ulster will be ultra competitive.

Team of the year confirmed today with Eoin McElholm named player of the year

1.Conan McGarvey (Tyrone)
2. Pádraic Tinnelly (Louth)
3. Joey Clarke (Tyrone)
4. Caolan Donnelly (Tyrone)
5. Tadhg McDonnell (Louth)
6. Callum Daly (Tyrone)
7. Hugh O'Loughlin (Mayo)
8. Seán Callaghan (Louth)
9. James Maguire (Louth)
10. Kevin Muldoon (Donegal)
11. Eoin McElholm (Tyrone)
12. Seanán Carr (Donegal)
13. Ruairí McCullagh (Tyrone)
14. Tomás Kennedy (Kerry)
15. Darragh Beirne (Mayo)


Six for the Ulster and All-Ireland champions Tyrone

Four for the Leinster champions and All-Ireland runners up Louth

Two for the Connacht champions and All-Ireland semi-finalists Mayo

One for the Munster champions and All-Ireland semi-finalists Kerry

Two for the Ulster runners up Donegal

Surely Grimes should be in there.

Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 29, 2025, 11:59:32 AM

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 29, 2025, 09:31:21 AM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2025, 11:08:29 PMTyrone fully deserved their win. On the balance of play 5 to 7 point margin would be a better reflection.  14 points separated the sides at the end with how ruthless Tyrone was and Louth far too wasteful. All the Tyrone players talked well after the match all knew they were in tough game regardless of the margin in the end, sounds very competitive at club and schools level and that keep them ticking over for the U20 grade. 

Should be another Ulster winner of this competition next year with the last two U17 All Ireland finals all Ulster finals. 

Tyrone's team over the next two years wouldn't stand out as much as the previous 4. Although Conor Devlin, Conor O'Neill and Ruairi McCullagh are still underage which is a good starting block. Derry should be the front runners for the next two seasons.

Derry are indeed the team to watch at this age group for 2026 and 2027.

Derry were the team to watch last year and this year as well sure. Those 3 tyrone u20 teams that won all Irelands in the last 4 years didn't win minor all Irelands with the same group. Multiple players that won it this year are still underage for next year.

There's only been 1 team this century that won an all Ireland minor title and went on to win an all Ireland at u20/21 with the same group which was mayo in 2010/2013.

Didn't Galway win u21 AI in 2013?

Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2025, 09:07:00 AMDidn't Galway win u21 AI in 2013?

Apologies it was minor 2013 and u21 2016 with that mayo team.