Have to say little almost glad we didn't qualify. Hope Wales do well and intersted to see if the custom venues work.
Hope to be interested but not holding my breath.
Not every word that starts with a Q has U as the second letter.
Will probably watch it but I'd say the venues will be empty for the most part. The hassle of travelling combined with the rules when you get there makes me think no one will go.
Quote from: dec on November 03, 2022, 01:40:32 PM
Not every word that starts with a Q has U as the second letter.
Most do tho tbf
The World Cup is a machine like the Olympics so it'll probably run smoothly. FIFA leave a lot to be desired with this late November shindig. And Qatar / Russia before.
Money has ruined soccer.
I remember the same discussions before the World Cup in Russia and that was a very well run tournament. Money has ruined football but I think this Winter World Cup is a great idea as would a World Cup in Australia and NZ. Soccer does not revolve around the premier league and 4 or 5 teams. Give countries their chance and forget about overpaid, overhyped, badge kisses in the Premier league. Hopefully England and Wales make early exits and we can enjoy the South Americans, an African team or an Asian team doing well
Fifa have lost a shit load of money from Qatar. Because the WC was switched from the Summer to winter, TV rites have been sold for less or bargained in with the rites to next WC in 2026.
The casual fan will to be non existent.
Beer is I hear €15 a pop. And you have to pay €75 to get into pubs. There will be no drinking on the street.
The players involved should not be affected. Squads are cocooned during tournaments and know little of whats going on outside.
This WC is going to be one of the biggest Social, Climatic and Cultural experiments ever.
Games are on at 10am, 1pm 4pm and 7pm. So people working or in school will miss 50-75% of games that are on week days.
Quote from: An Watcher on November 03, 2022, 03:12:19 PM
I remember the same discussions before the World Cup in Russia and that was a very well run tournament. Money has ruined football but I think this Winter World Cup is a great idea as would a World Cup in Australia and NZ. Soccer does not revolve around the premier league and 4 or 5 teams. Give countries their chance and forget about overpaid, overhyped, badge kisses in the Premier league. Hopefully England and Wales make early exits and we can enjoy the South Americans, an African team or an Asian team doing well
13 European teams. Would say at least 10 make the last 16. Wales, Poland, and Switzerland/Serbia (as Brazil in their group) the ones I'd be least confident in. Maybe Croatia if Canada live up to the hype. Not sure any Asian team will make it out of group. Maybe Iran best placed, given the draw.
I've never looked less forward to a WC than this one. Not because it's in Qatar or in winter , but the life and enjoyment has been truly sucked out of soccer in recent years . Vast majority of them are overpaid overhyped arses .
Anyway I'll probably tune into as much as i can bear , or have it on in the background at least. But at the end of the day , as long as England are knocked out very early, I couldn't give a sh1te who wins it after that
No interest whatsoever......no matter where ut might be played.
Quote from: AustinPowers on November 03, 2022, 04:26:47 PM
I've never looked less forward to a WC than this one. Not because it's in Qatar or in winter , but the life and enjoyment has been truly sucked out of soccer in recent years . Vast majority of them are overpaid overhyped arses .
Anyway I'll probably tune into as much as i can bear , or have it on in the background at least. But at the end of the day , as long as England are knocked out very early, I couldn't give a sh1te who wins it after that
I'd agree with that but the Qatar element is a big factor also. I find the Premier League and much of professional sport in general a rich mans plaything where money has sucked the soul out of football. Its used by the powerful and wealthy as a vehicle to exert their soft power and brainwash fans who tend to overlook most things in the name of football tribalism.
Japan v Costa Rica? Absolutely sign me up.
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 03, 2022, 03:13:02 PM
Fifa have lost a shit load of money from Qatar. Because the WC was switched from the Summer to winter, TV rites have been sold for less or bargained in with the rites to next WC in 2026.
The casual fan will to be non existent.
Teachers could miss them all as they'll be marking beyond 4 o'clock
Beer is I hear €15 a pop. And you have to pay €75 to get into pubs. There will be no drinking on the street.
The players involved should not be affected. Squads are cocooned during tournaments and know little of whats going on outside.
This WC is going to be one of the biggest Social, Climatic and Cultural experiments ever.
Games are on at 10am, 1pm 4pm and 7pm. So people working or in school will miss 50-75% of games that are on week days.
Messed that up, meant to say teachers will miss most of them as they'll be marking beyond 4 o'clock
Quote from: An Watcher on November 03, 2022, 04:44:39 PM
Messed that up, meant to say teachers will miss most of them as they'll be marking beyond 4 o'clock
Ahhy right. Surprised they haven't a strike organised.
Yes, I'll watch most games. Looking forward to it.
Working from home, I get in them 4 games a day from the sofa with the laptop operating the best.
As I said on another thread, anything that brightens the darkest, shitest months of the year is to be welcomed. I'm sure it'll be great.
Love to see one of the African teams make a run to the semis. Think Ghana got very close one year before suarez intervened which he was just right to do as it gained his ream a place in the wc semis
yes
I can't wait it will be great I reckon.
Obviously the fan experience outside of the games for those going will be second rate.
Gary Neville getting his arse handed to him on HIGNFY currently
Nigeria had a good team In 1994, but since African fball dropped off, still alot if good players out there, but you need God defences to win a world cup to go with talent up front, African teams are let down by inadequate goalkeepers and I disciplined defences.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on November 04, 2022, 09:23:48 PM
Gary Neville getting his arse handed to him on HIGNFY currently
https://twitter.com/Andy_Wheatley/status/1588646986819203072 (https://twitter.com/Andy_Wheatley/status/1588646986819203072)
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 04, 2022, 09:29:41 PM
Nigeria had a good team In 1994, but since African fball dropped off, still alot if good players out there, but you need God defences to win a world cup to go with talent up front, African teams are let down by inadequate goalkeepers and I disciplined defences.
and the fact half of their players play for France.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 04, 2022, 09:29:41 PM
Nigeria had a good team In 1994, but since African fball dropped off, still alot if good players out there, but you need God defences to win a world cup to go with talent up front, African teams are let down by inadequate goalkeepers and I disciplined defences.
Lazy analysis.
African teams are let down now because the original powers of the game got spooked by their sudden rise in the 1990s and doubled down on investment, infrastructure and coaching, in order to keep them at the top. African football cannot compete with the levels of professionalism in Europe and (to some extent) South America at present.
Look at the key Asian teams for evidence. They've got the money. They've got the public interest. They've got the discipline. And they're still a street behind the countries that have all that, plus the culture and focus.
Quote from: thewobbler on November 04, 2022, 11:51:25 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 04, 2022, 09:29:41 PM
Nigeria had a good team In 1994, but since African fball dropped off, still alot if good players out there, but you need God defences to win a world cup to go with talent up front, African teams are let down by inadequate goalkeepers and I disciplined defences.
Lazy analysis.
African teams are let down now because the original powers of the game got spooked by their sudden rise in the 1990s and doubled down on investment, infrastructure and coaching, in order to keep them at the top. African football cannot compete with the levels of professionalism in Europe and (to some extent) South America at present.
Look at the key Asian teams for evidence. They've got the money. They've got the public interest. They've got the discipline. And they're still a street behind the countries that have all that, plus the culture and focus.
Surely it's only a matter of time before somewhere like China/India with their populations build a decent team? I know theres mass poverty in a lot of parts of those countries and obviously Indians are more likely to take up cricket but with what, a quarter of the worlds population they're bound to become a force eventually.
Lookit, all the broadcasters are getting their human stories out there now. It's a disgrace, ect but when the ball is kicked it will be all football. I am looking forward to it, but I really think it's a tipping point for FIFA.
I was just wondering how the TV cameras getting crowd reaction will manage in case anyone shows off a Rainbow T-Shirt or the like but now I see they are paying 40 Welsh and 40 English fans to go over.
They will probably have the TV Directors briefed on where they are for positive and safe reactions.
If there is any history, it should be Argentina and Uruguay for 2030. Go back to where it all started and again it could be a Winter World Cup. But they can't grease enough palms...
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on November 05, 2022, 12:20:10 PM
Lookit, all the broadcasters are getting their human stories out there now. It's a disgrace, ect but when the ball is kicked it will be all football. I am looking forward to it, but I really think it's a tipping point for FIFA.
I was just wondering how the TV cameras getting crowd reaction will manage in case anyone shows off a Rainbow T-Shirt or the like but now I see they are paying 40 Welsh and 40 English fans to go over.
They will probably have the TV Directors briefed on where they are for positive and safe reactions.
If there is any history, it should be Argentina and Uruguay for 2030. Go back to where it all started and again it could be a Winter World Cup. But they can't grease enough palms...
Agreed. Is 2026 in North America?
Would love a joint bid between Ireland and the UK, preferably doable without the English but maybe not
It is mad that Qatar is hosting
I remember England (Australia too) were bidding for 2018/22 , and fifa delegates come over , supposedly to assess stadia, transport, infrastructure, etc etc , then. Awarded it to Qatar who had one stadium at the time if I recall correctly
I mean , why bother visiting countries pretending to assess things? England and Australia do have adequate stadia to host a World Cup. Qatar clearly didn't. Why didn't fifa just sit in Switzerland and tell any bidding countries that whoever sends the biggest cheque gets the tournament. I mean , that's exactly what they do anyway. An absolute farce
All for Australia getting it but why England? They've had it before as well as a Euros and then had the bulk of a very recent euros. Numerous countries should be ahead of England in the queue
Quote from: An Watcher on November 05, 2022, 04:42:09 PM
All for Australia getting it but why England? They've had it before as well as a Euros and then had the bulk of a very recent euros. Numerous countries should be ahead of England in the queue
To be fair England tick a lot of boxes when it comes to Stadiums, transport, infrastructure, policing. English people are football mad which also helps.
Quote from: An Watcher on November 05, 2022, 04:42:09 PM
All for Australia getting it but why England? They've had it before as well as a Euros and then had the bulk of a very recent euros. Numerous countries should be ahead of England in the queue
I wasn't rooting for England to get it but they were clearly better equipped to stage it than Qatar
I mean England have lots of 40k+ stadia. And the transport, infrastructure, hotels, etc etc built around that. Qatar didn't even have any stadia (bar one) , so wouldn't have had the infrastructure around the stadia either
Anyway, staging the WC in a smaller country like England makes more sense than say Australia, USA etc , as there's lots of grounds within short distances. The 2026 tournament will involve massive travelling and expenses for fans. England wouldn't as much as buses, trains are able to get fans to matches
Quote from: AustinPowers on November 05, 2022, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on November 05, 2022, 04:42:09 PM
All for Australia getting it but why England? They've had it before as well as a Euros and then had the bulk of a very recent euros. Numerous countries should be ahead of England in the queue
I wasn't rooting for England to get it but they were clearly better equipped to stage it than Qatar
I mean England have lots of 40k+ stadia. And the transport, infrastructure, hotels, etc etc built around that. Qatar didn't even have any stadia (bar one) , so wouldn't have had the infrastructure around the stadia either
Anyway, staging the WC in a smaller country like England makes more sense than say Australia, USA etc , as there's lots of grounds within short distances. The 2026 tournament will involve massive travelling and expenses for fans. England wouldn't as much as buses, trains are able to get fans to matches
2026 will not be friendly for travelling fans. It will also have a brutally boring group stage.
Quote from: An Watcher on November 05, 2022, 04:42:09 PM
All for Australia getting it but why England? They've had it before as well as a Euros and then had the bulk of a very recent euros. Numerous countries should be ahead of England in the queue
Australia F**k that. Bunch a vaccine obsessed sheilas.
Jesus surprised there's so much support for a world cup in England. May as well have it there every year.
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 05, 2022, 08:08:45 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on November 05, 2022, 04:42:09 PM
All for Australia getting it but why England? They've had it before as well as a Euros and then had the bulk of a very recent euros. Numerous countries should be ahead of England in the queue
Australia F**k that. Bunch a vaccine obsessed sheilas.
Er... Canada 2026?
Quote from: An Watcher on November 05, 2022, 09:22:32 PM
Jesus surprised there's so much support for a world cup in England. May as well have it there every year.
Every year? Last one was 66, no?
Would be handy to get to. And they still wouldn't win.
We know it should not be in Qatar but the people moaning about it are getting boring too.
Quote from: An Watcher on November 05, 2022, 04:42:09 PM
All for Australia getting it but why England? They've had it before as well as a Euros and then had the bulk of a very recent euros. Numerous countries should be ahead of England in the queue
They haven't had a world cup since 1966 and the Euro's was near 30 years ago. Considering the number of stadiums, infrastructure, support that would be there etc. then they definitely due a chance at hosting another one. Qatar shouldn't have got it, neither should Russia. England should get it before Australia.
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 09, 2022, 08:48:22 AM
Quote from: An Watcher on November 05, 2022, 04:42:09 PM
All for Australia getting it but why England? They've had it before as well as a Euros and then had the bulk of a very recent euros. Numerous countries should be ahead of England in the queue
They haven't had a world cup since 1966 and the Euro's was near 30 years ago. Considering the number of stadiums, infrastructure, support that would be there etc. then they definitely due a chance at hosting another one. Qatar shouldn't have got it, neither should Russia. England should get it before Australia.
It's about opening new markets to football and sponsors and of course lining the pockets of FIFA officials. Qatar, Australia, Canada ticks those boxes. England or the UK certainly doesn't.
Quote from: trailer on November 09, 2022, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 09, 2022, 08:48:22 AM
Quote from: An Watcher on November 05, 2022, 04:42:09 PM
All for Australia getting it but why England? They've had it before as well as a Euros and then had the bulk of a very recent euros. Numerous countries should be ahead of England in the queue
They haven't had a world cup since 1966 and the Euro's was near 30 years ago. Considering the number of stadiums, infrastructure, support that would be there etc. then they definitely due a chance at hosting another one. Qatar shouldn't have got it, neither should Russia. England should get it before Australia.
It's about opening new markets to football and sponsors and of course lining the pockets of FIFA officials. Qatar, Australia, Canada ticks those boxes. England or the UK certainly doesn't.
Egypt is a real soccer market with an established league. I think they have a player at Liverpool. They have stadia and infrastructure and they are in the Middle East. But they don't have any money.
Qatar won because Platini and 3 others voted for them.