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I was at Croke park at the weekend at Ed and was shocked and the Blaise nature of people taking coke. Is Cocaine a societal problem or does the GAA need to do more to tackle it?
Quote from: Truth hurts on April 25, 2022, 10:44:27 AM
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I was at Croke park at the weekend at Ed and was shocked and the Blaise nature of people taking coke. Is Cocaine a societal problem or does the GAA need to do more to tackle it?
I don't think the GAA can discourage something that health agencies, the government and police service has tried to do for years... Its as common as having a pint of Guinness with some nowadays.
The GAA can get behind the public health agencies and help promote the health issues related to using the drugs, I don't know what else they can do
It is 100% part of society now and a large chunk of lads who are into it play the GAA, so it's there too.
As was said now too there is no attempt to conceal it any more or any other drugs really. You walk along the street now and lads are smoking away not a bother.
Unless the the GAA are going to start sending out squads to save dealers the bother of having kneecaps I'm not sure what they can do that the government and police haven't already. It's something that's become as common or as normal as a pint with a lot of people unfortunately.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on April 25, 2022, 10:57:59 AM
It is 100% part of society now and a large chunk of lads who are into it play the GAA, so it's there too.
As was said now too there is no attempt to conceal it any more or any other drugs really. You walk along the street now and lads are smoking away not a bother.
The smell of weed walking around Belfast city centre is crazy, would random drug testing at club level solve it? Could this even be allowed? Could a GAA take this in as a policy?
Why is it the GAA's problem though?
I agree on belfast city centre. It has become pretty obvious and surely police should be doing more checking.
I thought county players did face drug tests which would have shown it up? I really don't think drug testing club players is a road that could be gone down.
Has any player been banned for cocaine use?
Anyone from your electrician to your bank manager could be sniffing the devils dandruff on any given weekend. I've even heard first hand that a certain GAA tv personality wasn't averse to having a line or two (and I've no reason to doubt the person who witnessed it). Outside having a zero tolerance policy on GAA premises I don't think there's a whole lot the association can do. Weed in my opinion is harmless and should be decriminalised immediately.
Quote from: general_lee on April 25, 2022, 11:31:10 AM
Anyone from your electrician to your bank manager could be sniffing the devils dandruff on any given weekend. I've even heard first hand that a certain GAA tv personality wasn't averse to having a line or two (and I've no reason to doubt the person who witnessed it). Outside having a zero tolerance policy on GAA premises I don't think there's a whole lot the association can do. Weed in my opinion is harmless and should be decriminalised immediately.
Smell of it would sicken ya. You need to be a total bum to be sitting about smoking weed.
Quote from: Truth hurts on April 25, 2022, 11:26:35 AM
Has any player been banned for cocaine use?
IIRC only two (male)players have ever been banned for any form of drugs at all neither of which were cocaine.
Have any been caught? Who would it be that has to catch them? Did any of these drug tests show up cocaine? You would imagine if they did they'd get banned. Who knows if they did or not.
I really don't think it's the GAA's remit though.
Quote from: Truth hurts on April 25, 2022, 11:26:35 AM
Has any player been banned for cocaine use?
Not in GAA I think, but 2 high profile soccer players were banned for taking Cocaine back in the early noughties - Mark Bosnich and Adrian Mutu.
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 25, 2022, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: general_lee on April 25, 2022, 11:31:10 AM
Anyone from your electrician to your bank manager could be sniffing the devils dandruff on any given weekend. I've even heard first hand that a certain GAA tv personality wasn't averse to having a line or two (and I've no reason to doubt the person who witnessed it). Outside having a zero tolerance policy on GAA premises I don't think there's a whole lot the association can do. Weed in my opinion is harmless and should be decriminalised immediately.
Smell of it would sicken ya. You need to be a total bum to be sitting about smoking weed.
I know an awful lot of professionals who are far from bums who would smoke weed to relax most evenings and would not be against doing a few lines every weekend. I know from speaking to my eldest there would be a lot of his peers who live like that and it's cheaper to take a line of coke for the high than it is to drink pints to get drunk.
pubs these days just seem to be full of people shouting thats why i stay clear of them.
ive heard people in tyrone try to deny that coke had reached the rural areas/clubs
is cocaine to blame for the rise of violence
Has there been a rise in violence?
Quote from: general_lee on April 25, 2022, 11:31:10 AM
Anyone from your electrician to your bank manager could be sniffing the devils dandruff on any given weekend. I've even heard first hand that a certain GAA tv personality wasn't averse to having a line or two (and I've no reason to doubt the person who witnessed it). Outside having a zero tolerance policy on GAA premises I don't think there's a whole lot the association can do. Weed in my opinion is harmless and should be decriminalised immediately.
If it's the person I've heard then you'd be correct, he's a big fan of the line dancing.. As for decriminalisation of Weed, studies need to go into the mental health side of it, depression and weed are linked and the dependence upon it to help escape those mental health problems can cause them to worsen.
A club up here has had a serious issue with suicide, 3 or 4 young lads in there teens and early 20's doing away with themselves and when things were peeled back there was a link to drugs with some of them and rumors of debts been built up.
I seen drug taking most weekends i go out 2 or 3 lads heading into a cubicle to get their fix it's as normal as going out for a smoke these days.
All that the GAA can do is raise awareness. It is a societal issue and I don't know what the answer is but the current strategy of governments clearly hasn't worked.
It is a GAA problem as lots of lads take it so can they don't have a hangover and can still train, also no calories so stay in shape.
Massive problem in terms of mental health as the lows after and meant to be serious.
Quote from: Mourne Red on April 25, 2022, 12:01:36 PM
Quote from: general_lee on April 25, 2022, 11:31:10 AM
Anyone from your electrician to your bank manager could be sniffing the devils dandruff on any given weekend. I've even heard first hand that a certain GAA tv personality wasn't averse to having a line or two (and I've no reason to doubt the person who witnessed it). Outside having a zero tolerance policy on GAA premises I don't think there's a whole lot the association can do. Weed in my opinion is harmless and should be decriminalised immediately.
If it's the person I've heard then you'd be correct, he's a big fan of the line dancing.. As for decriminalisation of Weed, studies need to go into the mental health side of it, depression and weed are linked and the dependence upon it to help escape those mental health problems can cause them to worsen.
i think hes also been accused of being a womenizer
taking cocaine then playing gaa less than 24 hours later wouldn't be good for the heart
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 25, 2022, 12:28:33 PM
It is a GAA problem as lots of lads take it so can they don't have a hangover and can still train, also no calories so stay in shape.
Massive problem in terms of mental health as the lows after and meant to be serious.
f**k me.
It takes a warped perspective on the world to determine that an amateur association which provides sporting facilities and administration, must take responsibility for how its members behave outside of their club.
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 25, 2022, 12:28:33 PM
It is a GAA problem as lots of lads take it so can they don't have a hangover and can still train, also no calories so stay in shape.
Massive problem in terms of mental health as the lows after and meant to be serious.
f**k me.
It takes a warped perspective on the world to determine that an amateur association which provides sporting facilities and administration, must take responsibility for how its members behave outside of their club.
Agree. Half the country is on the bag. Some fellas with serious habits.
Quote from: trailer on April 25, 2022, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 25, 2022, 12:28:33 PM
It is a GAA problem as lots of lads take it so can they don't have a hangover and can still train, also no calories so stay in shape.
Massive problem in terms of mental health as the lows after and meant to be serious.
f**k me.
It takes a warped perspective on the world to determine that an amateur association which provides sporting facilities and administration, must take responsibility for how its members behave outside of their club.
Agree. Half the country is on the bag. Some fellas with serious habits.
and i would say lot of them are seen as community good guys or they are worshipped because they are involved in it while people that keep quiet are demonised.
It's not a GAA issue though just society even the article you posted is 18 months old and you reference Ed Sheeran concert that is nothing to do with GAA barring the venue.
I agree it's more widespread and accepted now, to be honest it is everywhere and particularly in Dublin and bigger urban areas. But even in rural areas its fairly common too. There is nothing much the GAA can do about it and really it isn't the GAA's place to get involved in what amateur players or members get involved in on their spare time. That might sound defeatist but it's just reality.
Quote from: Eire90 on April 25, 2022, 12:35:16 PM
taking cocaine then playing gaa less than 24 hours later wouldn't be good for the heart
The number of players doing that is non existent if they have a match the following day. Most lads wouldnt even drink the night before matches anymore never mind taking coke
Cocaine and cannabis are minor++ problems compared to alcohol
Quote from: full moon on April 25, 2022, 03:50:13 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 25, 2022, 12:35:16 PM
taking cocaine then playing gaa less than 24 hours later wouldn't be good for the heart
The number of players doing that is non existent if they have a match the following day. Most lads wouldnt even drink the night before matches anymore never mind taking coke
Most lads if they've a game the next day will sit in the house and won't be drinking taking drugs the night before. Plenty of lads will go out and drink/take drugs or both if they're training the next morning.
Quote from: befair on April 25, 2022, 04:06:02 PM
Cocaine and cannabis are minor++ problems compared to alcohol
Bigger problem is gambling!