To be promoted
Cavan 1/4
Tipperary 8/11
Wexford 7/2
Sligo 7/2
Leitrim 4/1
Carlow 11/2
Waterford 20/1
London 25/1
Round 1 fixtures
Saturday 29th
Carlow v London
Sunday 30th
Leitrim v Cavan
Waterford v Tipperary
Wexford v Sligo
It will be interesting to see how Spillane Jnr gets on with Sligo https://t.co/HsaHEBv5Sg
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It will be interesting to see how Spillane Jnr gets on with Sligo https://t.co/HsaHEBv5Sg
I saw elsewhere that he didn't have any impact whatsoever with Kerry underage (wasn't on any developement squads or anything) and that he was only very much a bit part player for Templenoe when they won their club All-Ireland despite them having very limited playing numbers the last few years - when they had lads off playing with Kerry they were struggling to field a team on occasions with lads in their 40s basically playing as stand in the corner-forward position. Seems to have developed since he moved to Dublin, but he wasn't starting for Judes in the early rounds of the Dublin championship and it was only when one of their midfielders ahead of him picked up an injury that he got his chance. I did see one Judes game and kept a bit of an eye on him because of his dad and my impression was he looked a long ways off either Dublin or Kerry calling him in. I wouldn't be surprised if he has minimal impact for Sligo. Maybe he'll be a late bloomer but my initial instinct is that he's a game but limited intercounty player albeit on very limited evidence. Fair play to him for giving it a go - he could easily have said thanks but no thanks to the Sligo call given he has to know that he will probably have a lot more of the spot light on him because of his dad.
Now that Spillane comes under a manager from a footballing part of the country he may develop further.
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He actually loves Cavan that man, spent his youth going to Breffni to cheer us on.
Tough opener for us in Wexford, I honestly don't know what to expect. Two of the best forwards in the county Red Og Murphy and Liam Gaughan are not involved, having said that Niall Murphy seems to be on fire lately. Our biggest weakness is defense, we have conceded massive scores in all our recent games and if we can tighten up on that area, we should be fine. Hopefully we can squeak out a tight win on Sunday.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/key-men-critical-questions-and-fixtures-everything-you-need-to-know-about-allianz-league-division-4-41274769.html
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Jesus that article is some bullshit. One to watch for Leitrim - 34 yr old Emlyn Mulligan is one of the gems.
Cavan with no Gearoid McKiernan this weekend due to suspension, so thats 5/6 points less than usual for the lads. Should still have enough to beat Leitrim you would hope.
Some win for London against Carlow. At one stage in the second-half had trailed by 0-3 to 1-10
Leitrim a better outfit than I was expecting but in the end Cavan had a little bit more quality in their forwards and especially their free taking. I do expect Leitrim will be very hard bet though. All they need to do now is stop Andy Moran squaking little a little girl at the match officials every 30 seconds, can't be good for his players discipline listening to that.
Tipp dropping a point at Waterford was a surprise, maybe with the few absences they won't be the force they were. Great win in Wexford for Sligo.
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Leitrim a better outfit than I was expecting but in the end Cavan had a little bit more quality in their forwards and especially their free taking. I do expect Leitrim will be very hard bet though. All they need to do now is stop Andy Moran squaking little a little girl at the match officials every 30 seconds, can't be good for his players discipline listening to that.
Tipp dropping a point at Waterford was a surprise, maybe with the few absences they won't be the force they were. Great win in Wexford for Sligo.
Some interesting upsets. Sligo and Leitrim may be better than advertised.
Leitrim have decent players in fairness. The County final last year Mohill and Ballinamore was as good or better then a lot n of the live Co finals.
Obviously a very small pick so need them all committed
Great win for us - holding Wexford away to 10 pts shows a massive improvement for us. Welcome to Shligo Mr Spillane. Great away win and with 4 home games to come we are in a good place. Well done to all today .
Carlow is a very important game for us - They will probably come out with guns blazing after blowing it against London. We need to take advantage of the home field and stay patient and limit the scoring opportunities for Carlow. In my opinion this is a huge game for us and we can't be complacent or we will be stuck on 2 points...
Tipp look out of it now, great result for Leitrim. If Cavan can take Sligo next day out I think that will be one foot in Div 3 as I think they'll have basically played the strongest teams. Looking at early form I think Leitrim and sligo are in with a good shot.
The standard is very poor no doubt. Really poor result for Carlow and Tipperary.
Promotion probably going to be Cavan and Sligo, with Leitrim in with a shout.
Wexford were brutal today, Cavan incredibly sloppy and didn't seem to even want to shoot in the second half.
Cavan v Sligo in the next round looks like the game that will decide who tops the division. If Sligo look at the tapes of Cavan over the past two weeks, they'll be confident they can get a result against us at home.
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Wexford were brutal today, Cavan incredibly sloppy and didn't seem to even want to shoot in the second half.
Cavan v Sligo in the next round looks like the game that will decide who tops the division. If Sligo look at the tapes of Cavan over the past two weeks, they'll be confident they can get a result against us at home.
Cavan have been poor so far, same old story with the forwards. Take out Gearoid and there's no scoring threat from play. We will struggle through most games unless we start scoring goals.
Wexford looked very poor, a good club side would have beaten them. It's our own fault mind for getting relegated, but this division will do nothing for us in the Championship. And yet multiple players look poor even at this level.
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Wexford were brutal today, Cavan incredibly sloppy and didn't seem to even want to shoot in the second half.
Cavan v Sligo in the next round looks like the game that will decide who tops the division. If Sligo look at the tapes of Cavan over the past two weeks, they'll be confident they can get a result against us at home.
I think Cavan should take Sligo by 3/4 pts. They've beaten a poor wexford team and a brutal Carlow side. They've certainly a few food forwards in Murphy and Carrabine especially but they are weak down the middle and I can see Gearoid, Smith and Galligan doing a lot of damage. Faulkner is made for Murphy too. All that being said I'm sure Sligo will have a pep in their step having won 2/2.
Definitely a pep in our step after scoring 28 points. Defense has definitely upped the intensity and we are not coughing up balls due to bad passes or decisions. Obviously a very impressive display from us, Carlow still have the hangover from last week. Game v Cavan is huge and I think it will be tight. Tipp dropping 3 pts in 2 games is obviously good for us. Well done to Leitrim on a great result. We should be good if this comes down to scoring diff after today.
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Definitely a pep in our step after scoring 28 points. Defense has definitely upped the intensity and we are not coughing up balls due to bad passes or decisions. Obviously a very impressive display from us, Carlow still have the hangover from last week. Game v Cavan is huge and I think it will be tight. Tipp dropping 3 pts in 2 games is obviously good for us. Well done to Leitrim on a great result. We should be good if this comes down to scoring diff after today.
Last time Sligo scored 28 times in a match?
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Wexford were brutal today, Cavan incredibly sloppy and didn't seem to even want to shoot in the second half.
Cavan v Sligo in the next round looks like the game that will decide who tops the division. If Sligo look at the tapes of Cavan over the past two weeks, they'll be confident they can get a result against us at home.
Cavan have been poor so far, same old story with the forwards. Take out Gearoid and there's no scoring threat from play. We will struggle through most games unless we start scoring goals.
Wexford looked very poor, a good club side would have beaten them. It's our own fault mind for getting relegated, but this division will do nothing for us in the Championship. And yet multiple players look poor even at this level.
Yeah what stuck out for me most was their lack of physical conditioning. There was lads there looked like they'd never seen a gym. Yet we still couldn't take advantage, we didn't even seem to want to take advantage.
We will still be favourite against Sligo and I think Cavan have a tendency to rise or fall to the level of their opponents. Hopefully seeing the Sligo result will focus minds.
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Definitely a pep in our step after scoring 28 points. Defense has definitely upped the intensity and we are not coughing up balls due to bad passes or decisions. Obviously a very impressive display from us, Carlow still have the hangover from last week. Game v Cavan is huge and I think it will be tight. Tipp dropping 3 pts in 2 games is obviously good for us. Well done to Leitrim on a great result. We should be good if this comes down to scoring diff after today.
Last time Sligo scored 28 times in a match?
Possibly never or maybe back in the day when we played Kilkenny in the league...
Maggie Farrelly to referee the Division 4 game between Leitrim and London this Sunday, the first female to take charge of a National Football League game
Bookies have Cavan 2/5 away to Sligo, I think it will be a closer than that.
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Bookies have Cavan 2/5 away to Sligo, I think it will be a closer than that.
Sligo 11/4 with some bookies :o :o :o :o. That's some value! It's a 50/50 game. You can make a case for either team- Cavan are tough to break down and have experience of higher divisions and a provincial title. Sligo are going well, at home and have some dangerous forwards. Cavan tend to struggle with pacey forwards who run directly at backline.
If I had to stick my neck on the block I'd say Cavan by slightest of margins but I think we'll need a goal, something which is very elusive to this team. I also think the bad weather and heavy ground will suit us better and maybe take a bit of the pace out of the Yeats attack. But for a gambler those odds should be too tempting.
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Bookies have Cavan 2/5 away to Sligo, I think it will be a closer than that.
Sligo 11/4 with some bookies :o :o :o :o. That's some value! It's a 50/50 game. You can make a case for either team- Cavan are tough to break down and have experience of higher divisions and a provincial title. Sligo are going well, at home and have some dangerous forwards. Cavan tend to struggle with pacey forwards who run directly at backline.
If I had to stick my neck on the block I'd say Cavan by slightest of margins but I think we'll need a goal, something which is very elusive to this team. I also think the bad weather and heavy ground will suit us better and maybe take a bit of the pace out of the Yeats attack. But for a gambler those odds should be too tempting.
A 50:50 game?? - I dont think so. If Cavan played sligo 10 times, Cavan should be winning 9 of them. I think you are talking up Sligo way too much. They beat a woeful Carlow team and sneaked past Wexford. Two good wins and that brings confidence but jesus come on we were ulster champions 2 yrs ago we are not a 50:50 team against Sligo. The only thing that levels this somewhat is the weather conditions which are looking fairly cat.
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Bookies have Cavan 2/5 away to Sligo, I think it will be a closer than that.
Sligo 11/4 with some bookies :o :o :o :o. That's some value! It's a 50/50 game. You can make a case for either team- Cavan are tough to break down and have experience of higher divisions and a provincial title. Sligo are going well, at home and have some dangerous forwards. Cavan tend to struggle with pacey forwards who run directly at backline.
If I had to stick my neck on the block I'd say Cavan by slightest of margins but I think we'll need a goal, something which is very elusive to this team. I also think the bad weather and heavy ground will suit us better and maybe take a bit of the pace out of the Yeats attack. But for a gambler those odds should be too tempting.
A 50:50 game?? - I dont think so. If Cavan played sligo 10 times, Cavan should be winning 9 of them. I think you are talking up Sligo way too much. They beat a woeful Carlow team and sneaked past Wexford. Two good wins and that brings confidence but jesus come on we were ulster champions 2 yrs ago we are not a 50:50 team against Sligo. The only thing that levels this somewhat is the weather conditions which are looking fairly cat.
Why would I be talking up any Division 4 team?? You're the one doing the talking up. Division 4 and talking about Ulster champions. We're about as far removed from Ulster champion at the minute as any team can be.
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Bookies have Cavan 2/5 away to Sligo, I think it will be a closer than that.
Sligo 11/4 with some bookies :o :o :o :o. That's some value! It's a 50/50 game. You can make a case for either team- Cavan are tough to break down and have experience of higher divisions and a provincial title. Sligo are going well, at home and have some dangerous forwards. Cavan tend to struggle with pacey forwards who run directly at backline.
If I had to stick my neck on the block I'd say Cavan by slightest of margins but I think we'll need a goal, something which is very elusive to this team. I also think the bad weather and heavy ground will suit us better and maybe take a bit of the pace out of the Yeats attack. But for a gambler those odds should be too tempting.
A 50:50 game?? - I dont think so. If Cavan played sligo 10 times, Cavan should be winning 9 of them. I think you are talking up Sligo way too much. They beat a woeful Carlow team and sneaked past Wexford. Two good wins and that brings confidence but jesus come on we were ulster champions 2 yrs ago we are not a 50:50 team against Sligo. The only thing that levels this somewhat is the weather conditions which are looking fairly cat.
Why would I be talking up any Division 4 team?? You're the one doing the talking up. Division 4 and talking about Ulster champions. We're about as far removed from Ulster champion at the minute as any team can be.
You are talking up Sligo and saying this is a 50:50 match while the bookies (seldom wrong) call it 2/5 for Cavan. It is a fact that this Cavan team won Ulster not even 2 years ago. The same players are there which is my point. I am getting a bit fed up of Cavan people knocking the ability of our team - what next, we will scrape a win against London??
It's no harm to call it a 50/50 game. Sligo are playing at home and while Cavan were Ulster Champions, they have had 3 relegations and beaten by Wicklow last year, so aren't world beaters in League form over the last few years
Papa Durcan part of the Sligo backroom team. https://t.co/OvFEHP5u4R
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Bookies have Cavan 2/5 away to Sligo, I think it will be a closer than that.
Sligo 11/4 with some bookies :o :o :o :o. That's some value! It's a 50/50 game. You can make a case for either team- Cavan are tough to break down and have experience of higher divisions and a provincial title. Sligo are going well, at home and have some dangerous forwards. Cavan tend to struggle with pacey forwards who run directly at backline.
If I had to stick my neck on the block I'd say Cavan by slightest of margins but I think we'll need a goal, something which is very elusive to this team. I also think the bad weather and heavy ground will suit us better and maybe take a bit of the pace out of the Yeats attack. But for a gambler those odds should be too tempting.
A 50:50 game?? - I dont think so. If Cavan played sligo 10 times, Cavan should be winning 9 of them. I think you are talking up Sligo way too much. They beat a woeful Carlow team and sneaked past Wexford. Two good wins and that brings confidence but jesus come on we were ulster champions 2 yrs ago we are not a 50:50 team against Sligo. The only thing that levels this somewhat is the weather conditions which are looking fairly cat.
Why would I be talking up any Division 4 team?? You're the one doing the talking up. Division 4 and talking about Ulster champions. We're about as far removed from Ulster champion at the minute as any team can be.
You are talking up Sligo and saying this is a 50:50 match while the bookies (seldom wrong) call it 2/5 for Cavan. It is a fact that this Cavan team won Ulster not even 2 years ago. The same players are there which is my point. I am getting a bit fed up of Cavan people knocking the ability of our team - what next, we will scrape a win against London??
That's pretty disrespectful to Sligo IMO to react like that to calling the game 50:50. Yes we won an Ulster in empty stadiums in November time on wet pitches in bad conditions. Last time we played in a sun soaked full Clones didn't go great if memory serves. And unless it's completely shot I believe we lost 3 games out of 4 when we plied our trade in Division 3.
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Bookies have Cavan 2/5 away to Sligo, I think it will be a closer than that.
Sligo 11/4 with some bookies :o :o :o :o. That's some value! It's a 50/50 game. You can make a case for either team- Cavan are tough to break down and have experience of higher divisions and a provincial title. Sligo are going well, at home and have some dangerous forwards. Cavan tend to struggle with pacey forwards who run directly at backline.
If I had to stick my neck on the block I'd say Cavan by slightest of margins but I think we'll need a goal, something which is very elusive to this team. I also think the bad weather and heavy ground will suit us better and maybe take a bit of the pace out of the Yeats attack. But for a gambler those odds should be too tempting.
A 50:50 game?? - I dont think so. If Cavan played sligo 10 times, Cavan should be winning 9 of them. I think you are talking up Sligo way too much. They beat a woeful Carlow team and sneaked past Wexford. Two good wins and that brings confidence but jesus come on we were ulster champions 2 yrs ago we are not a 50:50 team against Sligo. The only thing that levels this somewhat is the weather conditions which are looking fairly cat.
Why would I be talking up any Division 4 team?? You're the one doing the talking up. Division 4 and talking about Ulster champions. We're about as far removed from Ulster champion at the minute as any team can be.
You are talking up Sligo and saying this is a 50:50 match while the bookies (seldom wrong) call it 2/5 for Cavan. It is a fact that this Cavan team won Ulster not even 2 years ago. The same players are there which is my point. I am getting a bit fed up of Cavan people knocking the ability of our team - what next, we will scrape a win against London??
That's pretty disrespectful to Sligo IMO to react like that to calling the game 50:50. Yes we won an Ulster in empty stadiums in November time on wet pitches in bad conditions. Last time we played in a sun soaked full Clones didn't go great if memory serves. And unless it's completely shot I believe we lost 3 games out of 4 when we plied our trade in Division 3.
Where was I disrespectful to Sligo? I barely mentioned them in my post. Maybe you should comment on what I actually post?
By the way, were the empty stadiums, wet conditions etc in 2020 somehow different for the teams playing each other.
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Bookies have Cavan 2/5 away to Sligo, I think it will be a closer than that.
Sligo 11/4 with some bookies :o :o :o :o. That's some value! It's a 50/50 game. You can make a case for either team- Cavan are tough to break down and have experience of higher divisions and a provincial title. Sligo are going well, at home and have some dangerous forwards. Cavan tend to struggle with pacey forwards who run directly at backline.
If I had to stick my neck on the block I'd say Cavan by slightest of margins but I think we'll need a goal, something which is very elusive to this team. I also think the bad weather and heavy ground will suit us better and maybe take a bit of the pace out of the Yeats attack. But for a gambler those odds should be too tempting.
A 50:50 game?? - I dont think so. If Cavan played sligo 10 times, Cavan should be winning 9 of them. I think you are talking up Sligo way too much. They beat a woeful Carlow team and sneaked past Wexford. Two good wins and that brings confidence but jesus come on we were ulster champions 2 yrs ago we are not a 50:50 team against Sligo. The only thing that levels this somewhat is the weather conditions which are looking fairly cat.
Why would I be talking up any Division 4 team?? You're the one doing the talking up. Division 4 and talking about Ulster champions. We're about as far removed from Ulster champion at the minute as any team can be.
You are talking up Sligo and saying this is a 50:50 match while the bookies (seldom wrong) call it 2/5 for Cavan. It is a fact that this Cavan team won Ulster not even 2 years ago. The same players are there which is my point. I am getting a bit fed up of Cavan people knocking the ability of our team - what next, we will scrape a win against London??
That's pretty disrespectful to Sligo IMO to react like that to calling the game 50:50. Yes we won an Ulster in empty stadiums in November time on wet pitches in bad conditions. Last time we played in a sun soaked full Clones didn't go great if memory serves. And unless it's completely shot I believe we lost 3 games out of 4 when we plied our trade in Division 3.
Where was I disrespectful to Sligo? I barely mentioned them in my post. Maybe you should comment on what I actually post?
By the way, were the empty stadiums, wet conditions etc in 2020 somehow different for the teams playing each other.
Barely mentioned them?? ;D ;D FFS Itchy you were posting about them and mad that people could knock Cavan saying the game was 50/50. As for the last sentence you said it in this very thread that the weather will be a "leveller" this weekend so maybe you can answer that one yourself.
Lad, it is not disrespectful to a team by stating the fact that one team is 2/5 to win (hot favourites) but weather is a leveller.
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Lad, it is not disrespectful to a team by stating the fact that one team is 2/5 to win (hot favourites) but weather is a leveller.
I know what the odds are that's why I'm saying it's terrific value. You say Cavan would beat Sligo 9 times out of 10 and it's knocking Cavan and bigging up Sligo to call it 50:50. I disagree. Yes weather can be a leveller but for who this weekend? I say it suits Cavan. We are a winter team and have form in bad conditions (however terrible we were last year). That and the fact Sligo have shown inconsistency is why I called Cavan to win but narrowly with no great confidence. If I were laying Sligo I wouldn't go any more than 5/4, that's where I think it's at. A goal will swing this game either way so it's something we need to work on and we absolutely have to be on the ball defensively. I certainly hope I'm completely off but until I see a few more games with a more robust looking defence and forwards who can actually score and take on defenders, then it's impossible to rate this Cavan team as anything other than a Division 4 outfit.
Because Cavan's attack is so blunt, if you have a team with a decent free taker and players with a decent level of athleticism and physicality you'll have a decent shot at beating us.
That's why we won't hammer Division 4 teams but equally can compete with Division 1 and 2 teams.
Sligo have a couple of the best individual forwards in the Division so could cause Cavan trouble. Cavan are favourites as we have more talent and experience overall but Sligo in with a decent shout as Cavan won't put them away and they'll likely be in the game right to the end, particularly in the conditions, so one or two errors or big moments could impact the result.
Would like to see Martin Reilly start if he's able. A day for athleticism and reliability on the ball.
Also, talking down the Ulster win for whatever reasons is nonsense. It happened, it was exceptional and deserved, its over. Being in Division 4 in 2022 changes nothing.
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Because Cavan's attack is so blunt, if you have a team with a decent free taker and players with a decent level of athleticism and physicality you'll have a decent shot at beating us.
That's why we won't hammer Division 4 teams but equally can compete with Division 1 and 2 teams.
Sligo have a couple of the best individual forwards in the Division so could cause Cavan trouble. Cavan are favourites as we have more talent and experience overall but Sligo in with a decent shout as Cavan won't put them away and they'll likely be in the game right to the end, particularly in the conditions, so one or two errors or big moments could impact the result.
Would like to see Martin Reilly start if he's able. A day for athleticism and reliability on the ball.
Also, talking down the Ulster win for whatever reasons is nonsense. It happened, it was exceptional and deserved, its over. Being in Division 4 in 2022 changes nothing.
No one is arguing the Ulster win was deserved but it is absolutely not nonsense to talk it down to put some context into it, especially if people are talking it up and using it as a gauge of where Cavan football is at the moment. We are a long ways off rubbing shoulders with the big boys in Ulster and winning big summer games in front of packed terraces in Ulster. That is a fact, same way Cavan hit 39 in 2020 is a fact. If that rubs people up the wrong way the problem is with them.
You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
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You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
I've actually mentioned every single one of those in this thread. Don't think it's me being choosy with the facts.
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You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
I've actually mentioned every single one of those in this thread. Don't think it's me being choosy with the facts.
Yes you had Cavan's far superior experience and success on one hand and Sligo being at home and "going well" on the other. Those things do not balance out.
I think this game will be close, I wouldn't be massively shocked if Sligo won. But there's no basis in fact for branding this a 50:50 game. If Sligo win it will be an upset.
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You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
I've actually mentioned every single one of those in this thread. Don't think it's me being choosy with the facts.
Yes you had Cavan's far superior experience and success on one hand and Sligo being at home and "going well" on the other. Those things do not balance out.
I think this game will be close, I wouldn't be massively shocked if Sligo won. But there's no basis in fact for branding this a 50:50 game. If Sligo win it will be an upset.
Why exactly would I dismiss our performances last year against Fermanagh, Derry and Wicklow? Those performances still need to be moved on from and that needs to be done by showing something more on the football field. We're still struggling to surpass the 15 point mark and don't look like scoring goals. And it's not obvious yet who the forwards will be to change that.
And yes Sligo are going well. Their points difference alone is almost our total scoring tally this season. They are inconsistent and may well fall flat against us but they were unlucky last year losing narrowly to Antrim for promotion though the Louth game is one they'll want to forget. So I agree with you, I've actually stated numerous times now that I have Cavan as slight favourites but the quoted odds represent great value for a punter.
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:08:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 08:29:37 PM
You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
I've actually mentioned every single one of those in this thread. Don't think it's me being choosy with the facts.
Yes you had Cavan's far superior experience and success on one hand and Sligo being at home and "going well" on the other. Those things do not balance out.
I think this game will be close, I wouldn't be massively shocked if Sligo won. But there's no basis in fact for branding this a 50:50 game. If Sligo win it will be an upset.
Why exactly would I dismiss our performances last year against Fermanagh, Derry and Wicklow? Those performances still need to be moved on from and that needs to be done by showing something more on the football field. We're still struggling to surpass the 15 point mark and don't look like scoring goals. And it's not obvious yet who the forwards will be to change that.
And yes Sligo are going well. Their points difference alone is almost our total scoring tally this season. They are inconsistent and may well fall flat against us but they were unlucky last year losing narrowly to Antrim for promotion though the Louth game is one they'll want to forget. So I agree with you, I've actually stated numerous times now that I have Cavan as slight favourites but the quoted odds represent great value for a punter.
Are Cavan not going better than Sligo? Narrow loss to the side now top of Div 1, hammered AI Champions, ground out a win against Leitrim in awful conditions, a more comfortable win against Wexford than Sligo had. Don't see how Sligo's form trumps that. Unless you're putting a lot of stock in that Carlow victory.
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 18, 2022, 03:57:18 PM
It's no harm to call it a 50/50 game. Sligo are playing at home and while Cavan were Ulster Champions, they have had 3 relegations and beaten by Wicklow last year, so aren't world beaters in League form over the last few years
Papa Durcan part of the Sligo backroom team. https://t.co/OvFEHP5u4R
Durcan is living up that way a couple years now.
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:08:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 08:29:37 PM
You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
I've actually mentioned every single one of those in this thread. Don't think it's me being choosy with the facts.
Yes you had Cavan's far superior experience and success on one hand and Sligo being at home and "going well" on the other. Those things do not balance out.
I think this game will be close, I wouldn't be massively shocked if Sligo won. But there's no basis in fact for branding this a 50:50 game. If Sligo win it will be an upset.
Why exactly would I dismiss our performances last year against Fermanagh, Derry and Wicklow? Those performances still need to be moved on from and that needs to be done by showing something more on the football field. We're still struggling to surpass the 15 point mark and don't look like scoring goals. And it's not obvious yet who the forwards will be to change that.
And yes Sligo are going well. Their points difference alone is almost our total scoring tally this season. They are inconsistent and may well fall flat against us but they were unlucky last year losing narrowly to Antrim for promotion though the Louth game is one they'll want to forget. So I agree with you, I've actually stated numerous times now that I have Cavan as slight favourites but the quoted odds represent great value for a punter.
Are Cavan not going better than Sligo? Narrow loss to the side now top of Div 1, hammered AI Champions, ground out a win against Leitrim in awful conditions, a more comfortable win against Wexford than Sligo had. Don't see how Sligo's form trumps that. Unless you're putting a lot of stock in that Carlow victory.
Sligo have a Crossmaglen man managing them.
Quote from: armaghniac on February 18, 2022, 10:52:30 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:08:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 08:29:37 PM
You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
I've actually mentioned every single one of those in this thread. Don't think it's me being choosy with the facts.
Yes you had Cavan's far superior experience and success on one hand and Sligo being at home and "going well" on the other. Those things do not balance out.
I think this game will be close, I wouldn't be massively shocked if Sligo won. But there's no basis in fact for branding this a 50:50 game. If Sligo win it will be an upset.
Why exactly would I dismiss our performances last year against Fermanagh, Derry and Wicklow? Those performances still need to be moved on from and that needs to be done by showing something more on the football field. We're still struggling to surpass the 15 point mark and don't look like scoring goals. And it's not obvious yet who the forwards will be to change that.
And yes Sligo are going well. Their points difference alone is almost our total scoring tally this season. They are inconsistent and may well fall flat against us but they were unlucky last year losing narrowly to Antrim for promotion though the Louth game is one they'll want to forget. So I agree with you, I've actually stated numerous times now that I have Cavan as slight favourites but the quoted odds represent great value for a punter.
Are Cavan not going better than Sligo? Narrow loss to the side now top of Div 1, hammered AI Champions, ground out a win against Leitrim in awful conditions, a more comfortable win against Wexford than Sligo had. Don't see how Sligo's form trumps that. Unless you're putting a lot of stock in that Carlow victory.
Sligo have a Crossmaglen man managing them.
We all make mistakes.
Anyone know if the game is in danger due to weather?
Laythrum v London moved to Bekan (unplayable today for u 20 games mind you while the Prentybubble is out if action due to next week's Congress)
Quote from: Westside on February 19, 2022, 12:02:29 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 18, 2022, 10:52:30 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:08:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 08:29:37 PM
You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
I've actually mentioned every single one of those in this thread. Don't think it's me being choosy with the facts.
Yes you had Cavan's far superior experience and success on one hand and Sligo being at home and "going well" on the other. Those things do not balance out.
I think this game will be close, I wouldn't be massively shocked if Sligo won. But there's no basis in fact for branding this a 50:50 game. If Sligo win it will be an upset.
Why exactly would I dismiss our performances last year against Fermanagh, Derry and Wicklow? Those performances still need to be moved on from and that needs to be done by showing something more on the football field. We're still struggling to surpass the 15 point mark and don't look like scoring goals. And it's not obvious yet who the forwards will be to change that.
And yes Sligo are going well. Their points difference alone is almost our total scoring tally this season. They are inconsistent and may well fall flat against us but they were unlucky last year losing narrowly to Antrim for promotion though the Louth game is one they'll want to forget. So I agree with you, I've actually stated numerous times now that I have Cavan as slight favourites but the quoted odds represent great value for a punter.
Are Cavan not going better than Sligo? Narrow loss to the side now top of Div 1, hammered AI Champions, ground out a win against Leitrim in awful conditions, a more comfortable win against Wexford than Sligo had. Don't see how Sligo's form trumps that. Unless you're putting a lot of stock in that Carlow victory.
Sligo have a Crossmaglen man managing them.
We all make mistakes.
Anyone know if the game is in danger due to weather?
I'd say it has to be in danger and more rain promised too.
Quote from: Itchy on February 19, 2022, 02:57:06 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 19, 2022, 12:02:29 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 18, 2022, 10:52:30 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:08:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 08:29:37 PM
You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
I've actually mentioned every single one of those in this thread. Don't think it's me being choosy with the facts.
Yes you had Cavan's far superior experience and success on one hand and Sligo being at home and "going well" on the other. Those things do not balance out.
I think this game will be close, I wouldn't be massively shocked if Sligo won. But there's no basis in fact for branding this a 50:50 game. If Sligo win it will be an upset.
Why exactly would I dismiss our performances last year against Fermanagh, Derry and Wicklow? Those performances still need to be moved on from and that needs to be done by showing something more on the football field. We're still struggling to surpass the 15 point mark and don't look like scoring goals. And it's not obvious yet who the forwards will be to change that.
And yes Sligo are going well. Their points difference alone is almost our total scoring tally this season. They are inconsistent and may well fall flat against us but they were unlucky last year losing narrowly to Antrim for promotion though the Louth game is one they'll want to forget. So I agree with you, I've actually stated numerous times now that I have Cavan as slight favourites but the quoted odds represent great value for a punter.
Are Cavan not going better than Sligo? Narrow loss to the side now top of Div 1, hammered AI Champions, ground out a win against Leitrim in awful conditions, a more comfortable win against Wexford than Sligo had. Don't see how Sligo's form trumps that. Unless you're putting a lot of stock in that Carlow victory.
Sligo have a Crossmaglen man managing them.
We all make mistakes.
Anyone know if the game is in danger due to weather?
I'd say it has to be in danger and more rain promised too.
Rain shouldn't be a problem its a new pitch in Markievicz Park.
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 19, 2022, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 19, 2022, 02:57:06 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 19, 2022, 12:02:29 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 18, 2022, 10:52:30 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 09:08:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 08:29:37 PM
You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
I've actually mentioned every single one of those in this thread. Don't think it's me being choosy with the facts.
Yes you had Cavan's far superior experience and success on one hand and Sligo being at home and "going well" on the other. Those things do not balance out.
I think this game will be close, I wouldn't be massively shocked if Sligo won. But there's no basis in fact for branding this a 50:50 game. If Sligo win it will be an upset.
Why exactly would I dismiss our performances last year against Fermanagh, Derry and Wicklow? Those performances still need to be moved on from and that needs to be done by showing something more on the football field. We're still struggling to surpass the 15 point mark and don't look like scoring goals. And it's not obvious yet who the forwards will be to change that.
And yes Sligo are going well. Their points difference alone is almost our total scoring tally this season. They are inconsistent and may well fall flat against us but they were unlucky last year losing narrowly to Antrim for promotion though the Louth game is one they'll want to forget. So I agree with you, I've actually stated numerous times now that I have Cavan as slight favourites but the quoted odds represent great value for a punter.
Are Cavan not going better than Sligo? Narrow loss to the side now top of Div 1, hammered AI Champions, ground out a win against Leitrim in awful conditions, a more comfortable win against Wexford than Sligo had. Don't see how Sligo's form trumps that. Unless you're putting a lot of stock in that Carlow victory.
Sligo have a Crossmaglen man managing them.
We all make mistakes.
Anyone know if the game is in danger due to weather?
I'd say it has to be in danger and more rain promised too.
Rain shouldn't be a problem its a new pitch in Markievicz Park.
It might be new enough but then so was the pitch in Cork and that turned out to be a mess that had to be re-done. It's not been in the best of shape the last few times I seen it so wouldn't be overly optimistic, been plenty of rain here all evening.
The Rovers match fell to the weather too.
On the game, if it goes ahead, yes things look a lot more positive now with a couple of wins in the bag but it's hard to judge where we stand until tomorrow, the Wexford game was a slog and Carlow were dreadful, probably the worst non-KK county team I've ever seen visit the Park, which makes their win tonight remarkable. The forwards can kick plenty of scores and Murphy and Carrabine in particular are as good as you'll find in the lower divisions but that's not been our issue, defensively we've been a mess for a good few years now, shipping heavy scores on a regular basis, and that's something that any improvement in will need a few more tests to see if real progress has been made. And Cavan are as good as any test of that they'll have this side of championship. Hopefully a positive result but the performance will be more important than anything, the decisive games to win if promotion is to be achieved will come later.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on February 19, 2022, 09:29:46 PM
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Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
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Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2022, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 18, 2022, 08:29:37 PM
You are choosing where to put context very carefully. No mention of 2019 when we got to the Ulster final. No mention that a lot of our players unlike Sligo have Division 1 and 2 experience. No mention of how Sligo have been going over the past few years.
We aren't world beaters for sure, but we are favourites for this game and there is no evidence that this game is 50:50. We are strongly expected to win this narrowly.
Did they deduct an Ulster when we hit Div 4?
I've actually mentioned every single one of those in this thread. Don't think it's me being choosy with the facts.
Yes you had Cavan's far superior experience and success on one hand and Sligo being at home and "going well" on the other. Those things do not balance out.
I think this game will be close, I wouldn't be massively shocked if Sligo won. But there's no basis in fact for branding this a 50:50 game. If Sligo win it will be an upset.
Why exactly would I dismiss our performances last year against Fermanagh, Derry and Wicklow? Those performances still need to be moved on from and that needs to be done by showing something more on the football field. We're still struggling to surpass the 15 point mark and don't look like scoring goals. And it's not obvious yet who the forwards will be to change that.
And yes Sligo are going well. Their points difference alone is almost our total scoring tally this season. They are inconsistent and may well fall flat against us but they were unlucky last year losing narrowly to Antrim for promotion though the Louth game is one they'll want to forget. So I agree with you, I've actually stated numerous times now that I have Cavan as slight favourites but the quoted odds represent great value for a punter.
Are Cavan not going better than Sligo? Narrow loss to the side now top of Div 1, hammered AI Champions, ground out a win against Leitrim in awful conditions, a more comfortable win against Wexford than Sligo had. Don't see how Sligo's form trumps that. Unless you're putting a lot of stock in that Carlow victory.
Sligo have a Crossmaglen man managing them.
We all make mistakes.
Anyone know if the game is in danger due to weather?
I'd say it has to be in danger and more rain promised too.
Rain shouldn't be a problem its a new pitch in Markievicz Park.
It might be new enough but then so was the pitch in Cork and that turned out to be a mess that had to be re-done. It's not been in the best of shape the last few times I seen it so wouldn't be overly optimistic, been plenty of rain here all evening.
The Rovers match fell to the weather too.
On the game, if it goes ahead, yes things look a lot more positive now with a couple of wins in the bag but it's hard to judge where we stand until tomorrow, the Wexford game was a slog and Carlow were dreadful, probably the worst non-KK county team I've ever seen visit the Park, which makes their win tonight remarkable. The forwards can kick plenty of scores and Murphy and Carrabine in particular are as good as you'll find in the lower divisions but that's not been our issue, defensively we've been a mess for a good few years now, shipping heavy scores on a regular basis, and that's something that any improvement in will need a few more tests to see if real progress has been made. And Cavan are as good as any test of that they'll have this side of championship. Hopefully a positive result but the performance will be more important than anything, the decisive games to win if promotion is to be achieved will come later.
Postponement might suit both teams, by the time they'd get around to play each other again it might be a dead rubber.
Cavan v Sligo is off, pitch unplayable.
Disappointing loss for Leitrim. Probably takes them out of the promotion hunt unless they beat Sligo and hope Cavan do too.
London suddenly will have their tales up. Still 3 of the favourites for the division to play but they have momentum.
Cavan will now likely have Sligo, Tipp and London 3 weeks running. 2 wins out of three should see us promoted. Presuming of course Carlow and Waterford don't spring a big surprise in Breffni.
Big loss for Leitrim. I'd say Andy was doing some crying on the line today. Well done to London, have they ever won 3/3 in league before?.
Great to see the numerous discussions on the status of the Cavan team and the ease with which they predict they will beat Sligo. Our next game is huge for us, if we beat Tipperary away then I think we will be promoted, a loss and we are back in the mixer with many other teams. Pity the Cavan game didn't get played but it probably was the best decision given the conditions. London certainly are the surprise packets of the league, they obviously can't be taken lightly after beating Leitrim at home, this was a huge blow to Leitrim's promotion efforts but they are still in with a chance.
They bet Laythrum at a neutral venue....but are the surprise team of the League so far.
Listening to their London born manager is a bit strange, you don't associate that accent with gaelic games matters.
Very early days yet in this Division and the postponed games this weekend leaves it slightly more difficult to gauge where the teams are at but it's throwing up plenty of "interesting" results. Cavan and Sligo look very likely to gain promotion at the moment as 10 points will more than likely secure promotion. In that respect the cancelled game this weekend may very well suit them and allow them to point build and other teams to take points off each other until their showdown later on in the campaign. Leitrim had a disastrous result and promotion now looks beyond them.
London flying at the moment- if they can win 2 more games, not beyond them, they will be in the mix nicely (assuming the Sligo Cavan game produces a result and not a draw). That leaves promotion Cavan and Sligo's to lose from here. From our point of view it's vital we don't drop the ball and go out and perform and not allow other teams back in the mix. Carlow this weekend. Bookies have us 1/10 on. We should be winning this with a bit to spare but cannot take them likely.
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 22, 2022, 02:14:13 PM
Great to see the numerous discussions on the status of the Cavan team and the ease with which they predict they will beat Sligo. Our next game is huge for us, if we beat Tipperary away then I think we will be promoted, a loss and we are back in the mixer with many other teams. Pity the Cavan game didn't get played but it probably was the best decision given the conditions. London certainly are the surprise packets of the league, they obviously can't be taken lightly after beating Leitrim at home, this was a huge blow to Leitrim's promotion efforts but they are still in with a chance.
An interesting take on everyone from Cavan saying this will be a tough close game.
Quote from: Westside on February 22, 2022, 07:18:16 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 22, 2022, 02:14:13 PM
Great to see the numerous discussions on the status of the Cavan team and the ease with which they predict they will beat Sligo. Our next game is huge for us, if we beat Tipperary away then I think we will be promoted, a loss and we are back in the mixer with many other teams. Pity the Cavan game didn't get played but it probably was the best decision given the conditions. London certainly are the surprise packets of the league, they obviously can't be taken lightly after beating Leitrim at home, this was a huge blow to Leitrim's promotion efforts but they are still in with a chance.
An interesting take on everyone from Cavan saying this will be a tough close game.
Just pointing out the fact that nobody predicted a Sligo win, which I understand coming from Cavan supporters. As a Sligoman of course it's and interesting take....
Tipp beat Sligo by 4 points which blows the division wide open.
Quote from: Itchy on February 26, 2022, 08:49:33 PM
Tipp beat Sligo by 4 points which blows the division wide open.
Surely London walk it now.
Bad result for us. It seemed we reverted to the old habits of bad passes, bad shot selection etc.. group is wide open now. The good news is we still have 3 games at home but we need to stop making silly mistakes. Good win for Tipp puts them right back in the hunt.
Carlow very competitive in Breffni today. If they had converted their goal chances they would have won.
If Cavan win next week we will have one foot in Division 3. With Sligo looking for a response to their loss, Cavan missing probably 4 starting players and coming off an atrocious attacking performance, game in Sligo... It will be tight.
Quote from: Westside on February 27, 2022, 04:47:49 PM
Carlow very competitive in Breffni today. If they had converted their goal chances they would have won.
If Cavan win next week we will have one foot in Division 3. With Sligo looking for a response to their loss, Cavan missing probably 4 starting players and coming off an atrocious attacking performance, game in Sligo... It will be tight.
Still waiting for the day cavan actually thump someone, we just don't seem to know how to. I think I would have to say based on today the Sligo game will be a lot tighter and Sligo in with a decent shout. New players not making enough of an impact.
Quote from: Itchy on February 27, 2022, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 27, 2022, 04:47:49 PM
Carlow very competitive in Breffni today. If they had converted their goal chances they would have won.
If Cavan win next week we will have one foot in Division 3. With Sligo looking for a response to their loss, Cavan missing probably 4 starting players and coming off an atrocious attacking performance, game in Sligo... It will be tight.
Still waiting for the day cavan actually thump someone, we just don't seem to know how to. I think I would have to say based on today the Sligo game will be a lot tighter and Sligo in with a decent shout. New players not making enough of an impact.
I think as soon as we get into a commanding position we ease up. We were on track to win well today and got sloppy and let them.back into it. Have to say I was impressed with Carlow. They were well organised, their centre forward and full forward were outstanding.
Quote from: Westside on February 27, 2022, 04:47:49 PM
Carlow very competitive in Breffni today. If they had converted their goal chances they would have won.
If Cavan win next week we will have one foot in Division 3. With Sligo looking for a response to their loss, Cavan missing probably 4 starting players and coming off an atrocious attacking performance, game in Sligo... It will be tight.
Ah not too sure about that. Sure you could say the same about us, if we converted the 2 clear goal chances we had. They got their goal when we were 6 points up. We always had them at arms length and were always fit to open a gap when needed. We won without needing to dig very deep at all
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Quote from: Itchy on February 27, 2022, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 27, 2022, 04:47:49 PM
Carlow very competitive in Breffni today. If they had converted their goal chances they would have won.
If Cavan win next week we will have one foot in Division 3. With Sligo looking for a response to their loss, Cavan missing probably 4 starting players and coming off an atrocious attacking performance, game in Sligo... It will be tight.
Still waiting for the day cavan actually thump someone, we just don't seem to know how to. I think I would have to say based on today the Sligo game will be a lot tighter and Sligo in with a decent shout. New players not making enough of an impact.
I think as soon as we get into a commanding position we ease up. We were on track to win well today and got sloppy and let them.back into it. Have to say I was impressed with Carlow. They were well organised, their centre forward and full forward were outstanding.
Exactly this. We're an odd team in that we don't thrash teams, but remain in a battle and competitive game with any opposition from Division 1 to 4. We simply don't have the high cruising speed to just go and beat teams about the door, that's not part of the way we play. We have a habit of opening a lead and then easing up. That 1st half too took a lot out of us, we had to work very hard to get into the 21 score into that wind, while they floated a number of long range points over the bar. We did just enough in the 2nd half to see it out. We also tend to get caught up in the niggly things too which we need to get away from
Had a quick look at the Carlow team that played Sligo, 10 of those lads played yesterday. Two of the lads missing were Carlow's best players yesterday, Foley and Clarke. Still doesn't inspire a huge amount of confidence for the Sligo game. Fingers crossed we can get Martin Reilly back for next weekend.
Absolutely agree on getting caught in the niggly stuff, Moynagh has had a few too many of those black cards over the years, trying to be cute and rarely gets away with it. Galligan's red was unforgivable, in front of the ref, just after conceding 1-1, he really let the side down and robs us of his services for next weekend. He had a stormer yesterday too.
On a perfect day for football it's a low scoring defensive contest Between Sligo and Cavan but that won't matter to the home side if they hold onto the win. 0-6 to 0-2 at half time.
Cavan 1-13 Sligo 0-10. A lucky goal set Cavan on their way to victory and it was against a 14 man Sligo all 2nd half.
Cavan were the away team. A very poor first half from Cavan. Sligo had the wind and were the better side, Cavan improved in the second half, got a very fortunate goal. Sligo played most of the half with 14 men. A scrappy game but Cavan now in pole position for Promotion.
A flattering scoreline for Cavan no doubt but they did deserve the win. Silly (but deserved) red card early in the second half definitely hurt us but we were still a point ahead with 6 minutes of normal time left. A goal for cavan that hit the post and went in off our goalies back was the turning point, after that we seemed to run out of steam. Hard loss but I have to say that Sean Carabine is turning into a very impressive and dogged player and it good to get Paddy O'Connor back on the field. The way I see it now is we have to hope that Cavan beat Tipp next week and we win our last 3 games and we should get promoted. Hard luck to Wexford today who only lost by a point after conceding 4 goals.
Sligo did rightly and I seen enough to think they've still a decent shot at promotion. That cavan team that started was without the following 1st teamers - Martin reilly, Thomas galligan, Killian Clarke, Gerry Smith and Conor Madden.
Smith and Clarke came on for the last quarter. The red card (k didn't see what it was for) and poor goalkeeping mistake for our goal were big turning points but I think Cavan just had too much for Sligo, especially off the bench. Gunner had an outstanding day, he smashed one shoulder at one stage I'd say the Sligo player thought he was hit by a bus. A great 2 points for us but I thought we were only average for 3/4 of the game.
Tipp beating Cavan is one helluva shock.
Appalling performance from Cavan and even still they 4 clear goal chances and missed them all. Just abysmal today
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 13, 2022, 05:07:04 PM
Tipp beating Cavan is one helluva shock.
Not sure how much of a shock it was when you consider Cavans performance against Sligo was far from great last weekend but got the win with man advantage and a lucky goal.
Tipp and Cavan should be the two to gain promotion now.
Bad day at the office for Cavan. The ref was terrible, thought he denied us a clear penalty in injury time. The wind seemed to die in the second half when it was at our backs. We spurned 4 excellent goal opportunities. We should still beat at least 1 of London and Waterford to get promoted.
Quote from: Westside on March 13, 2022, 07:59:47 PM
Bad day at the office for Cavan. The ref was terrible, thought he denied us a clear penalty in injury time. The wind seemed to die in the second half when it was at our backs. We spurned 4 excellent goal opportunities. We should still beat at least 1 of London and Waterford to get promoted.
Fair to say from our side it was shock win yesterday. I didnt think 4 points was enough at half time given the wind and goal to leave it a 1 point made it look like it would be a cakewalk 2nd half for ye. The standard has falling away alot from previous league and championship games between ourselves. There were a few strange calls from the ref alright, wouldnt say it favoured one team over the other though. Black card seemed harsh and 2nd half Tipp were pulled up for a free where there wasnt enough distance between the players, maybe I'm wrong but that was given as a cavan free and easy score, Surely should have been throw ball? We definitely rode our luck, mixture of poor finishing and a great save stopped ye getting goals which would have turned the game. 3 points the 2nd half from yourselves with the wind was an awful return. Teams usually liable to shockers in the league and that seems to have been yers, ye are still guarenteed promotion. Im not counting any chickens just yet in terms of our chances but yesterday has put us in a great position
Quote from: tippabu on March 14, 2022, 07:11:13 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 13, 2022, 07:59:47 PM
Bad day at the office for Cavan. The ref was terrible, thought he denied us a clear penalty in injury time. The wind seemed to die in the second half when it was at our backs. We spurned 4 excellent goal opportunities. We should still beat at least 1 of London and Waterford to get promoted.
Fair to say from our side it was shock win yesterday. I didnt think 4 points was enough at half time given the wind and goal to leave it a 1 point made it look like it would be a cakewalk 2nd half for ye. The standard has falling away alot from previous league and championship games between ourselves. There were a few strange calls from the ref alright, wouldnt say it favoured one team over the other though. Black card seemed harsh and 2nd half Tipp were pulled up for a free where there wasnt enough distance between the players, maybe I'm wrong but that was given as a cavan free and easy score, Surely should have been throw ball? We definitely rode our luck, mixture of poor finishing and a great save stopped ye getting goals which would have turned the game. 3 points the 2nd half from yourselves with the wind was an awful return. Teams usually liable to shockers in the league and that seems to have been yers, ye are still guarenteed promotion. Im not counting any chickens just yet in terms of our chances but yesterday has put us in a great position
Ye were full value for the win. Even though we can say we had 4 goal chances that doesnt change the fact we were shocking bad and in fairness we deserved to be more behind at half time. Hard to see ye drop points from now in which is really hard luck on Leitrim and Sligo who probably will have another year in Div 4.
Yeah Tipp full value for that win. Set up perfectly and played the conditions very well. If the most likely scenario plays out and we meet again in Croker, be interested to see how it plays out.
Quote from: Westside on March 14, 2022, 01:50:49 PM
Yeah Tipp full value for that win. Set up perfectly and played the conditions very well. If the most likely scenario plays out and we meet again in Croker, be interested to see how it plays out.
Thanks a lot Cavan ------------
Quote from: Westside on March 14, 2022, 01:50:49 PM
Yeah Tipp full value for that win. Set up perfectly and played the conditions very well. If the most likely scenario plays out and we meet again in Croker, be interested to see how it plays out.
Thought we were superb yesterday , fought like Dogs . Missed a decent goal chance near the end to wrap it up . Tipp v Cavan in Croker , firm sod and a dry ball would be a decent game . I`m not dismissing Carlow and London though , we have to maintain momentum !
Quote from: Horse Box on March 14, 2022, 03:20:51 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 14, 2022, 01:50:49 PM
Yeah Tipp full value for that win. Set up perfectly and played the conditions very well. If the most likely scenario plays out and we meet again in Croker, be interested to see how it plays out.
Thought we were superb yesterday , fought like Dogs . Missed a decent goal chance near the end to wrap it up . Tipp v Cavan in Croker , firm sod and a dry ball would be a decent game . I`m not dismissing Carlow and London though , we have to maintain momentum !
I wasnt at the Wexford game but I was told our performance in that was worse than our Leitrim and Waterford games, miricale we won. Carlow and London are far from bankers. I know youre saying the exact same but we arent the team of the last decade. Very premature to be talking about croke park just yet. With Leitrim and Sligo playing each other in the last match I dont think other than two wins will be good enough to go up.
Quote from: Horse Box on March 14, 2022, 03:20:51 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 14, 2022, 01:50:49 PM
Yeah Tipp full value for that win. Set up perfectly and played the conditions very well. If the most likely scenario plays out and we meet again in Croker, be interested to see how it plays out.
Thought we were superb yesterday , fought like Dogs . Missed a decent goal chance near the end to wrap it up . Tipp v Cavan in Croker , firm sod and a dry ball would be a decent game . I`m not dismissing Carlow and London though , we have to maintain momentum !
Well if it's any consolation we beat Carlow and London by about 40 points in total... I would be shocked (but not sad) if ye were to drop points in either match..
This Tipperary v London game next weekend needs to be moved from Saturday to Sunday.
The whole integrity of the Division depends on it.
Quote from: The PRO on March 21, 2022, 01:50:50 PM
This Tipperary v London game next weekend needs to be moved from Saturday to Sunday.
The whole integrity of the Division depends on it.
It should. But does it matter? Might be a thing for London lads to get back in time as later Sunday throw ins can mess them up. It's in Tipps hands either way, as it's dependant on them losing or drawing to allow Sligo/Leitrim a chance. So doesn't matter when it's played as it's this game which determines things...
Quote from: The PRO on March 21, 2022, 01:50:50 PM
This Tipperary v London game next weekend needs to be moved from Saturday to Sunday.
The whole integrity of the Division depends on it.
Very difficult for them to move a game involving London, would be very costly for them to do so at this late stage.
There's no relegation in the division and if Tipp win their up.
Matches being changed now. Cavan Waterford game moved to 6pm Saturday. That's poor on Waterford supporters to get back down the country with a game finishing around 8pm
I wouldn't think Waterford football team have many supporters.
Did Waterford CB ask for it to be moved to avoid a clash with Hurley stuff on Sunday?
What has happened with Carlow? They were on the up not that long ago.
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 22, 2022, 12:10:54 PM
What has happened with Carlow? They were on the up not that long ago.
Turlough O'Brien was arguably getting the best out of them. Things became stale he left along with coach Poacher.
Yeah it's a pity as they've dropped a good bit. The hurlers have dropped off a good bit too.
Quote from: The PRO on March 21, 2022, 01:50:50 PM
This Tipperary v London game next weekend needs to be moved from Saturday to Sunday.
The whole integrity of the Division depends on it.
If Tipp win the Leitrim v Sligo match is dead rubber
If Tipp Draw only Leitrim can go up with a win due to head to head
If Tipp lose a draw puts sligo up on score differnce or winner of the Leitrim v Sligo game go up.
In terms of integrity, unless I am corrected, a Tipp draw is the only result which should put Tipp at a huge disadvantage as Sligo are out and may save players for championship and motivation will be gone. Tipp Draw gives Sligo the slight edge knowing a draw would do them should it be tight near the end.
Some of the best teams between D3 and D4 are in D4
Cavan's time in Div 4 a short spell as expected, saved their best performance for their last game. 3-21 to 0-10 winners against Waterford tonight. Tipp 1-14 to 0-12 against London in tonights other game.
Cavan v Tipp final next weekend.
So this is where all the cool kids hang out I see...
I'm reserving my seat here for next year . How are all you guys keeping down here in this neck of the woods ?
Quote from: Laoiseabu on March 28, 2022, 12:58:53 AM
I'm reserving my seat here for next year . How are all you guys keeping down here in this neck of the woods ?
Welcome
Half time Cavan 1-5 Tipperary 0-7. Decent half of football.
Full Time Cavan 2-10 Tipperary 0-15. Fine margins that match as seen with goal chance towards the end of the game for Tipp that crashed off the crossbar and not over the line. Paddy Lynch certainly deserved his MOTM award.
2nd goal cost us and poor turnovers. Unlucky with goal chance.
Well done Cavan and best of luck in ulster
A good game. Two evenly matched teams. Congrats to Cavan and hard luck to Tipp. For second Cavan goal, huge mistake to not see the Tipp forward making a run and instead lost the ball and Cavan scored on a lightening quick break. As one paper said: two teams that will be wondering what they were doing in Division 4 in the first place.
Decent game.
Quote from: weareros on April 02, 2022, 04:16:01 PM
A good game. Two evenly matched teams. Congrats to Cavan and hard luck to Tipp. For second Cavan goal, huge mistake to not see the Tipp forward making a run and instead lost the ball and Cavan scored on a lightening quick break. As one paper said: two teams that will be wondering what they were doing in Division 4 in the first place.
The 2020 championship 3rd place play off.
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 02, 2022, 03:16:21 PM
Half time Cavan 1-5 Tipperary 0-7. Decent half of football.
Full Time Cavan 2-10 Tipperary 0-15. Fine margins that match as seen with goal chance towards the end of the game for Tipp that crashed off the crossbar and not over the line. Paddy Lynch certainly deserved his MOTM award.
A real piledriver; nothing between the teams, a good game
It was a good game of football. I like these type of games, division finals, teams want to win but are not that stressed, leads to an exciting atractive game.
I thought it was a terrible first half. Tipp had lots of bodies back and Cavan didn't deal with playing into the massed defence very well.
The game opened up in the second half and was more entertaining but Cavan just made a huge amount of mistakes. As much as they probably wouldn't like to admit it, I think the players had a lot of pressure on themselves to win the cup and it showed. Some crazy errors from experienced players.
Lynch took both his goals extremely well, along the carpet. He got MOTM but Jason McLoughlin was immense throughout and would have been equally deserving.
I was impressed with Tipp, composed on the ball, hit some serious long range scores and dominated midfield. Had that crossbar shot gone in, Cavan couldn't have had any complaints.