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Title: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: omagh_gael on August 15, 2021, 01:47:09 PM
Don't see a thread on this. What's the story then, who would be considered favourites. Can see no sign of bookie odds but Meath's trimming of Dublin bound to have them up there.

Tyrone v Cork
Sligo v Meath
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: rodney trotter on August 15, 2021, 05:08:22 PM
There hasn't been any betting at Minor level for a few years https://www.rte.ie/sport/other-sport/2016/0608/794067-paddy-power-ends-under-18-sports-betting/
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: twohands!!! on August 16, 2021, 02:36:34 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 15, 2021, 01:47:09 PM
Don't see a thread on this. What's the story then, who would be considered favourites. Can see no sign of bookie odds but Meath's trimming of Dublin bound to have them up there.

Tyrone v Cork
Sligo v Meath

Based on the games I've seen and the results so far Tyrone would be strong favourites.
Cork squeaked by what was supposed to be the weakest Kerry side in years and were very unimpressive against an ordinary Limerick side.
Sligo in massive bonus territory.
Meath decent without being anything special.
If all goes to form Tyrone will win it out handily enough against Meath in the final.
However they are only young lads and sometimes teams have an off day (especially at U17 level).
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 16, 2021, 02:43:48 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 16, 2021, 02:36:34 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 15, 2021, 01:47:09 PM
Don't see a thread on this. What's the story then, who would be considered favourites. Can see no sign of bookie odds but Meath's trimming of Dublin bound to have them up there.

Tyrone v Cork
Sligo v Meath

Based on the games I've seen and the results so far Tyrone would be strong favourites.
Cork squeaked by what was supposed to be the weakest Kerry side in years and were very unimpressive against an ordinary Limerick side.
Sligo in massive bonus territory.
Meath decent without being anything special.
If all goes to form Tyrone will win it out handily enough against Meath in the final.
However they are only young lads and sometimes teams have an off day (especially at U17 level).

Agreed Tyrone look like the stand out team. Could easily have a semi final double header in Croke Park this weekend instead of sticking to the original plan of Breffni Park, O'Connor and crowds of only 2,000.

Update GAA HQ has confirmed Breffni Park for Sligo v Meath and Tullamore for Tyrone v Cork.

12.45pm and  2.30pm throw in times on Saturday and TG4 covering both games.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: saffronandblue on August 16, 2021, 03:45:08 PM
I'd expect Sligo to win it out.  A bit like Offaly and their under 20's, they have put a very strong team together.  Would have won the Connacht Final by a lot more if it had been a decent day.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 16, 2021, 04:47:29 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on August 16, 2021, 03:45:08 PM
I'd expect Sligo to win it out.  A bit like Offaly and their under 20's, they have put a very strong team together.  Would have won the Connacht Final by a lot more if it had been a decent day.

That's a bold prediction. Having watched the Connacht final Sligo made best use of the conditions and I think another wet and windy day could suit them v Meath.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 01:27:45 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 16, 2021, 04:47:29 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on August 16, 2021, 03:45:08 PM
I'd expect Sligo to win it out.  A bit like Offaly and their under 20's, they have put a very strong team together.  Would have won the Connacht Final by a lot more if it had been a decent day.

That's a bold prediction. Having watched the Connacht final Sligo made best use of the conditions and I think another wet and windy day could suit them v Meath.

Sligo have beaten Tyrone this year in a fairly competitive challenge game. That said there is no form book really so hard to know.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 17, 2021, 03:17:13 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 01:27:45 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 16, 2021, 04:47:29 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on August 16, 2021, 03:45:08 PM
I'd expect Sligo to win it out.  A bit like Offaly and their under 20's, they have put a very strong team together.  Would have won the Connacht Final by a lot more if it had been a decent day.

That's a bold prediction. Having watched the Connacht final Sligo made best use of the conditions and I think another wet and windy day could suit them v Meath.

Sligo have beaten Tyrone this year in a fairly competitive challenge game. That said there is no form book really so hard to know.

Can't read too much out of challenges. Roscommon U20s beat Offaly by a bit to spare in a June challenge.

It's hard to know as the occasion of All Ireland semi final can get the better of players especially under 17s.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: God14 on August 17, 2021, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 01:27:45 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 16, 2021, 04:47:29 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on August 16, 2021, 03:45:08 PM
I'd expect Sligo to win it out.  A bit like Offaly and their under 20's, they have put a very strong team together.  Would have won the Connacht Final by a lot more if it had been a decent day.

That's a bold prediction. Having watched the Connacht final Sligo made best use of the conditions and I think another wet and windy day could suit them v Meath.

Sligo have beaten Tyrone this year in a fairly competitive challenge game. That said there is no form book really so hard to know.

At the time of the challenge game,  how many of the 2021 panel were with the 2020 panel?
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 03:44:13 PM
Quote from: God14 on August 17, 2021, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 01:27:45 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 16, 2021, 04:47:29 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on August 16, 2021, 03:45:08 PM
I'd expect Sligo to win it out.  A bit like Offaly and their under 20's, they have put a very strong team together.  Would have won the Connacht Final by a lot more if it had been a decent day.

That's a bold prediction. Having watched the Connacht final Sligo made best use of the conditions and I think another wet and windy day could suit them v Meath.

Sligo have beaten Tyrone this year in a fairly competitive challenge game. That said there is no form book really so hard to know.

At the time of the challenge game,  how many of the 2021 panel were with the 2020 panel?

I dont know, do you?
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: thejuice on August 21, 2021, 10:56:46 AM
12:45 throw in.

Live on TG4

Meath (All-Ireland MFC semi-final v Sligo):

Oisin McDermott;

Conor Ennis, Liam Kelly, Brian O'Halloran;
Shaun Leonard, Tomas Corbett, Killian Smyth;

Paul Wilson, Jack Kinlough;

Andrew Moore, Sean Emmanuel, Conor McWeeney;
Christian Finlay, Oisin O Murchu, Hughie Corcoran

Leonard, Kinlough and Hughie Corcoran have been the stand outs for us so far. Hard to gauge us based on Leinster form as the quality has been falling a bit in the province the last few years but then Offaly bucked that trend so we'll have to see but we're in with a good shot at getting to the final.


Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 12:12:30 PM
Sean Emmanuel stood out in the Leinster final v Dublin.

Sligo line up. Both semi finals Live on TG4 TV channel

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9TswXdWUAAbnqO?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: nrico2006 on August 21, 2021, 12:41:29 PM
Over the years you learn challenge games at minor mean nothing, from non involvement of players due to school, club commitments etc. This year has an additional factor in that you had the 2020 and 2021 championship being played simultaneously which has resulted in more absentees than normal.  I haven't watched any of the minor teams from outside Ulster so can't comment on them, but I haven't seen a more impressive Tyrone minor team in my lifetime. They beat Donegal comfortably in the end, but that result was from a day when they probably had their worst shooting boots on. High hopes for them but I've probably jinxed them now. Cork and Meath final.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 01:05:03 PM
Meath 1-4 Sligo 0-3 at the water break.

Half time Meath 1-11 Sligo 1-4. 
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2021, 01:38:22 PM
Sligo are a man up and Meath still have a free man in their own fb line  ???
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 01:49:39 PM
2nd water break. Meath 1-14 Sligo 1-5. Meath down to 14 men but this is going to be a routine win for the Leinster champions.

Full Time Meath 2-14 Sligo 2-9. Meath good value for that 5 point win but to Sligos credit they went down fighting.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2021, 02:13:51 PM
Some rain in Cavan.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 02:47:47 PM
1st water break. Tyrone 0-5 Cork 0-2.

Half time Tyrone 0-10 Cork 0-3.Tyrone much the better team and could afford a penalty miss.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Onthe40 on August 21, 2021, 03:30:17 PM
Tyrone streets ahead of a slow laboured cork outfit
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 03:38:08 PM
Two good goal chances not taken by Tyrone but doesn't matter they strolling to victory here. 50 minutes played Tyrone 0-15 Cork 0-5.

FT Tyrone 0-23 Cork 1-6. If we had odds for the minor grade Tyrone would be strong favourites to win the All-Ireland final.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2021, 04:02:26 PM
What's the craic with these balloons that stand behind the interview screen??
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: BennyCake on August 21, 2021, 04:02:57 PM
Yer man in the Offaly jersey  never wastes a chance to get his face on TV  ;D
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2021, 04:02:26 PM
What's the craic with these balloons that stand behind the interview screen??

The Offaly supporter that loves to get on TV? Very awkward interview with the Cork goalkeeper.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Gold on August 21, 2021, 04:07:10 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 03:38:08 PM
Two good goal chances not taken by Tyrone but doesn't matter they strolling to victory here. 50 minutes played Tyrone 0-15 Cork 0-5.

FT Tyrone 0-23 Cork 1-6. If we had odds for the minor grade Tyrone would be strong favourites to win the All-Ireland final.

Tyrone could've won 4 -23 to 0 -6...no way that Cork 'goal' crossed the line and Tyrone missed about 4 1 on 1s and a penalty

Tyrone are a serious outfit....Good job they missed those goals or they'd have been more complacent v Meath.

Missed the Meath game but hear they're some outfit

Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Gold on August 21, 2021, 04:07:59 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2021, 04:02:26 PM
What's the craic with these balloons that stand behind the interview screen??

The Offaly supporter that loves to get on TV? Very awkward interview with the Cork goalkeeper.

Just a kid. He had a fantastic game to be fair..Schmeichel-esque saves
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2021, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: Gold on August 21, 2021, 04:07:10 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 03:38:08 PM
Two good goal chances not taken by Tyrone but doesn't matter they strolling to victory here. 50 minutes played Tyrone 0-15 Cork 0-5.

FT Tyrone 0-23 Cork 1-6. If we had odds for the minor grade Tyrone would be strong favourites to win the All-Ireland final.

Tyrone could've won 4 -23 to 0 -6...no way that Cork 'goal' crossed the line and Tyrone missed about 4 1 on 1s and a penalty

Tyrone are a serious outfit....Good job they missed those goals or they'd have been more complacent v Meath.

Missed the Meath game but hear they're some outfit
Had to call from the angle the cameras were at, so I'll go with the sharp eyed umpires on the line 😉
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: Gold on August 21, 2021, 04:07:10 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 21, 2021, 03:38:08 PM
Two good goal chances not taken by Tyrone but doesn't matter they strolling to victory here. 50 minutes played Tyrone 0-15 Cork 0-5.

FT Tyrone 0-23 Cork 1-6. If we had odds for the minor grade Tyrone would be strong favourites to win the All-Ireland final.

Tyrone could've won 4 -23 to 0 -6...no way that Cork 'goal' crossed the line and Tyrone missed about 4 1 on 1s and a penalty

Tyrone are a serious outfit....Good job they missed those goals or they'd have been more complacent v Meath.

Missed the Meath game but hear they're some outfit

Would need to see a better replay of that Cork goal to know for sure. Meath are decent but I'll be surprised if Tyrone don't win the final by a bit to spare. The clear stand out team at U17 level this year.



Quote from: Gold on August 21, 2021, 04:07:59 PM
[Just a kid. He had a fantastic game to be fair..Schmeichel-esque saves

He was Corks stand out player the main reason it wasn't a 20 plus point beating. Poor form I thought by TG4 deciding to interview him. Give him the MOTM trophy off camera was the sensible thing to do.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: hoynevalley on August 21, 2021, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 21, 2021, 04:02:57 PM
Yer man in the Offaly jersey  never wastes a chance to get his face on TV  ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D He a good skin that lad. Always in Portlaoise for games too.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: An Watcher on August 22, 2021, 12:13:43 AM
Meath look solid defensively.  Can't give up so many goak chances the next day
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 28, 2021, 12:18:05 PM
Two unchanged sides named for todays final.

Tyrone

Niall Robinson; Michael Rafferty, Ronan Fox, Callan Kelly; Hugh J Cunningham, Shea O'Hare, Matthew Mallon; Ronan Donnelly, Ruairi McHugh; Ronan Strain, Cormac Devlin, Gavin Potter; Ronan Cassidy, Paddy McCann, Eoin McElholm

Subs: Conor McAneney, Conan Devlin, Ben Hughes, Brian Hampsey, Conor Owens, Noah Grimes, Caolan O'Hagan, Jack Martin, Ronan Molloy

Meath

Oisin McDermott; Conor Ennis, Liam Kelly, Sean O'Hare; Tomas Corbett, John O'Regan, Killian Smyth; Paul Wilson, Jack Kinlough; Shaun Leonard, Sean Emmanuel, Conor McWeeney; Christian Finlay, Oisin O Murchu, Hughie Corcoran

Did Oisin O Murchu get his straight red v Sligo downgraded to a yellow?
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2021, 01:14:14 PM
This has the makings of a very good game.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 28, 2021, 01:18:56 PM
1st water break 18 minutes played. Good game thus far 1-4 each.

Half time Meath 1-7 Tyrone 1-6.

Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 28, 2021, 02:04:25 PM
2nd water break 47 minutes played. Meath 1-11 Tyrone 1-8
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Westside on August 28, 2021, 02:05:00 PM
Excellent game.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2021, 02:06:01 PM
Meath just that wee bit better.  Good game between two good teams. Tyrone need to take more of their chances.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on August 28, 2021, 02:16:33 PM
Meath 1-11 Tyrone 1-10 with 3 minutes of normal time to play.

Level game after a number of Tyrone wides. 1-11 each. 1 minute of injury time to play


Some drama at the end, Tyrone miss a free to bring the game into injury time.

FT Meath 1-12 Tyrone 1-11. On the evidence of the two semi finals I couldn't see past Tyrone but credit to Meath they were superb today and fully deserved their win a first minor All-Ireland title since 1992.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: tyrone08 on August 28, 2021, 02:25:17 PM
All tyrone in final 15 min. However they are putting on an exhibition on how not to shoot
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: nrico2006 on August 28, 2021, 02:26:39 PM
Tyrone didn't deserve it with that crap at the end.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2021, 02:27:55 PM
Shame to see a minor team lose with misses like that as it haunts boys. Two very good teams. That Meath defense was very good and the number two was some warrior.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: SHEEDY on August 28, 2021, 02:28:26 PM
Great game. Meath just about done enough but how many chances did Tyrone need
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: clarshack on August 28, 2021, 02:29:18 PM
What was the wide count for Tyrone? Some crazy shot selections, and we missed that much that I wasn't confident of that last free going over.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 28, 2021, 02:30:32 PM
Meath the better team. They hit some wides themselves but tyrones were brutal
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: tyrone08 on August 28, 2021, 02:30:34 PM
Unfortunately for tyrone they lost it for themselves. Couldn't believe the amount of wides and short balls in the last 10 mins. They are a good young team, hopefully they will learn from this.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2021, 02:31:53 PM
Wide count was 13 12 very near the end. I think Tyrone had maybe two more. It wasn't that they were wides it was more where they were from.

Some good players both sides.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: tyrone08 on August 28, 2021, 02:32:43 PM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on August 28, 2021, 02:30:32 PM
Meath the better team. They hit some wides themselves but tyrones were brutal
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Wouldn't have said meath were the better team at all. Tyrone literally kicked themselves out of it. Should have been 3 or 4 in front in the last few minutes.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 28, 2021, 02:38:44 PM
Unfathomable wides from Tyrone at the end.  Still kids I guess. 
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Main Street on August 28, 2021, 02:38:56 PM
That was a great last point for Meath to win the game, extraordinary nightmarish finish to the game by the Tyrone lads, they can't even claim to be unlucky losers.

Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: BennyCake on August 28, 2021, 02:45:29 PM
Tyrone blew that. Should have won it, never mind draw it.  And they  were far from  the better team
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 28, 2021, 02:50:59 PM
Over the course the 60 plus minutes the better team won so congrats to Meath.

Tyrone left to rue those missed chances. The nerves got the better of both teams late on. Firstly Meath giving up the chances which they weren't doing earlier and then Tyrone wayward with their shooting and shot selection. Huge pressure on the Tyrone number 20 to covert that late free and he'll probably nail that free 9 times out of 10 playing on his club ground.
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 28, 2021, 03:24:48 PM
Time was up once Meath scored last. Game should been blown on the restart
Title: Re: AI Minor Championship 2021
Post by: rrhf on August 31, 2021, 02:34:42 PM
Agreed though perhaps he realised his error with the double bounce for the deciding point...
Overall I felt Meath were the better team on the day and yet Tyrone should have won it only for the shooting.  Strange game with a thrilling end.. Congrats to Meath.