Well done to JOM for being elected, getting votes all over the place.
I am not saying he should be replaced in Mayo, or that he should step down but what is likely to happen.
It is probably accepted that a dual accomodation was reached last October when the County Board needed JOM, and he need to the GAA.
The same attention to detail with which he is credited and focus were very obviously missing for the Galway game. That is understandable in the midst of an election.
But now that he will be working in Dublin on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday most weeks, and running clinics in Mayo will he decide to continue, and if so how will his capability to do the big job that is required be affected?
i was thinking about this as well Barney when i heard the result. I don't think it will be possible for him to give his full commitment to both jobs, so i think that whenever mayo exit the championship that will be it Johno will be gone.
Anyone know how Graham Geraghty got on.
Quote from: thejuice on May 26, 2007, 09:46:29 AM
Anyone know how Graham Geraghty got on.
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he wasn't elected
Quote from: Barney on May 26, 2007, 09:22:14 AM
But now that he will be working in Dublin on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday most weeks, and running clinics in Mayo will he decide to continue, and if so how will his capability to do the big job that is required be affected?
Hard to know how it will affect his ability to do the most important job, Tony Dempsey was Wexford manager when he was first elected to the Dail, think he only stayed on as boss for a short while longer.
Johnno has repeatedly alluded his three years, now he was hardly going to say anything during an election campaign to the contrary but the cynic in me says he'll not be Mayo manager this time next year. Another part of me trusts this man implicitly and that he'll stay for the full three years
Time will tell
is it true? (sorry im abroad!)
ah if it is then mayo are screwed. do the honorable thing johno - resign the dail seat! ;) the way things r shaping tho i dont think he'll be tainiste!
what would be better for mayo, an all-ireland win or a taoseach and tainiste from mayo?
i know what id take.
At last, O'Mahony will have to give a proper answer on this. Politics and sport don't mix...
But sure dont the dail take a summer break?? So during the summer JOM wont be working that much.
That makes three FG TD's now in Co Roscommon ::)
I'd better buy a Blue Shirt.
should resign with immeadite effect.
Unlike some here i really rate him as a manager - he's won with limited talent and exceptional talent. the sign of areally good manager
BUt there is no way you can do the two jobs well- not a hope and that was seen in the first game against galway.
tonly dempsey had to pack it in he said it was impossible to do the two.
His job is being a TD. His hobby is coaching Mayo. Shouldn't be a problem.
Right?
I think the dail is an ideal job to have. Sure they work less time than any job i know, sitting for roughly 100 days yearly. His clinics will be run in mayo so i can not see it really interfering with his main job!!!
what did he work as before?
He was a secondary school teacher
That's it, he will have less time on his hands now! Teachers have more time off than everybone else !!!!
Its hard to see where his time for training a team will come from.He will be in dublin tuesday to thursday,that take tuesday and thursday out for training and team talks.Maybe the weekend is all he will have, I believe Mayo were totally unfocussed for galway and the election probably had abearing on that.
Expect Mayo to get to a semi or final ,win or lose, he will walk away after that stating personal reasons.
Are you kidding??
Being a TD is possibly the easiest job in the country. It only sits 3 days a week, it takes holidays from June til late Sept, another two months at Christmas and another month at Easter. And you don't even have to attend if you don't want to. It'll have no effect on his job as Mayo manager, Many managers and players actually do proper jobs and still have time for it. At leats now he'll have the time to concentrate on Mayo and leave worrying about the Dail until they reconvene next Sept.
Barney didn't notice your return till now, welcome back to your spiritual home.
Personally I see no reason for Johnno's resignation.
Which do you think is worth more, his expenses as Mayo manager or as a T.D. for Mayo?? On a completly unrelated note and indeed non GAA note, it was interesting to see the failure of the 'Support the Rossport Luddites 'candidates in Mayo.
Quoteit was interesting to see the failure of the 'Support the Rossport Luddites 'candidates in Mayo.
You could look at it that way. Or you could point to the fact that when Ray Burke gave away 1/2 a Billion's Euros worth of natural gas for free Fianna Fáil had 4 seats in Mayo, now they have just 1.
Can't see any major reason why Johnno will have to resign. As many have already said, it is not a very time-consuming job, and he will have the summer off. Yes being in Dublin 3 days a week looks like a problem but the fact that he is a TD with the opposition means he will have feck all to do, I doubt he will be required to attend all 3 days although I have to admit I don't know too much about the daily tasks of a TD. I think he'll be able to do the 2 jobs alright, he will have more free time than plenty of other managers!
Quote from: northsideboy on May 27, 2007, 10:22:54 PM
On a completly unrelated note and indeed non GAA note, it was interesting to see the failure of the 'Support the Rossport Luddites 'candidates in Mayo.
What candidates were they? I don't think any of the candidates supported the Shell to Sea campaign - Crowley did for a while, but backed down in February when certain elements appeared to highjack the campaign for their own ends. But hey - what have you been up to lately Northsideboy? ;)
despite what some here might think being a TD is a very very time consuming job. I think Johhno will finish out this season and after that resign.
O'Mahony was on the radio this morning saying he was keeping both jobs. Sorry - both his job and his hobby.
Quote from: INDIANA on May 26, 2007, 05:49:49 PM
tonly dempsey had to pack it in he said it was impossible to do the two.
Sometimes it's just too hard to resist a cheap shot ... Tony Dempsey seemed to find it impossible to do either.
From the Mayo News. No new coronation required this year
QuoteNEWLY elected TD for Mayo, John O'Mahony, has reiterated that his ascension to the Daíl will not mean any change for his planned three-year term as Mayo manager.
"Long-term my position as Mayo manager was never an issue regardless of how I did," he told The Mayo News last night. "It's about working out a good sense of time management and I intend to do that.
"I would have discussed this possibility with the Fine Gael party and with headquarters. I'm amazed the question has been asked so many times since I was elected. It would be a silly thing to step down. The people of Mayo want this [him managing Mayo]," said O'Mahony who agreed a three year term last December.
The 53 year old Kilmovee native didn't take long to take off his political cap and put on his football one last weekend. While he was in the TF Hotel at the election count until the early hours of Saturday morning, he was present in Balla later that evening to watch the Mayo Intermediate championship clash between Davitts and Mayo Gaels. He was also on his home patch of Ballaghaderreen on Sunday where his local club beat Shrule/Glencorrib.
"We'd be keeping on eye on those who are in the panel and then anyone who jumps out after that," he admitted. "We've another round of championship games at club level to look at players and a league round this weekend. We hope to use these games to show lads that if they are putting it in they have the chance to show us in these games if they deserve a go. Maybe not in the short-term in every case but certainly in the long-term."
The Mayo squad are back training tonight (Tuesday) after being released to train with their clubs in advance of the championship last weekend. O'Mahony and Mayo did meet last Monday however to discuss their season in light of the Galway defeat.
"The mood last Monday was like any team. Once defeated you are bitterly disappointed but the way we have to look at it is that in seven weeks we have another chance. In the old system we would have to wait 12 months for that chance to come around. Everyone knows we're not as bad as we showed in Pearse Stadium but it is up to us as a management, as a county board and as a squad to prove that.
"I think the seven week break is actually a help," he added. "I know that in the past, from speaking to other managers who would be out just a week after losing, that sometimes a gap is no harm. It's a pity we don't know yet who we are playing though."
QuoteWhat candidates were they? I don't think any of the candidates supported the Shell to Sea campaign - Crowley did for a while, but backed down in February when certain elements appeared to highjack the campaign for their own ends. But hey - what have you been up to lately Northsideboy?
Jerry Cowley & Gerry Murray were both very supportive of the protesters. Not sure about the others
QuoteAt last, O'Mahony will have to give a proper answer on this. Politics and sport don't mix...
Is that why Mayo was the only county in ireland the blueshirts chose red and green for their election poster. O mahany allowed himself and his position to br used disgracefully. but i suppose he got what he wanted I mean whoos worried about a connacht chapionship any when he has a chance to get his snout in the trough
I wouldn't always agree with a lot Rosnarun would always say but in this instance I agree totally with him. I know I'm not a fan of the county board but there are serious questions that have to be answered. I have always wanted JOM in charge of the county side ( I have stated that on a number of occasions on this board), that was until I new he was going to run for office.
In the last three years he wouldn't take the job but sat on the sidelines making suggestion in the western and other media outlets undermining the people in charge. But low and behold there is an election coming then he take the mayo job ,and then allows himself to be nominated as a FG candidate for election. At this point you would think that the county board would do something about it but no....................we have a situation that Prenty is his director of elections and men like Goonan and Feeney going around canvassing for him. These people are using Mayo GAA for there own personal gain. I would love to know what Micky Moran thinks of the whole setup, it stinks in my opinion. Sport and politics should not mix and shame on the county board and JOM for doing that.
I'll love to see what happens when the county board goes looking for some of it annual donations, they might get a surprise or two.
IntoDwest, there may be something in what you say but I think JOM has been committed to the job, just got sidetracked in the weeks coming up to the Galway game and probably realised that the balancing act was not possible during the course of a campaign. Sadly the football suffered, although even on our best day we had a 50/50 chance only.
Remember he was nominated for FG before Mayo, and politically could not have turned down the job.
Quote from: Barney on May 29, 2007, 06:19:41 PM
and politically could not have turned down the job.
Exactly why sport and politics shouldn't mix!
Quote from: intoDwest on May 29, 2007, 03:44:35 PM
In the last three years he wouldn't take the job but sat on the sidelines making suggestion in the western and other media outlets undermining the people in charge. But low and behold there is an election coming then he take the mayo job ,and then allows himself to be nominated as a FG candidate for election. At this point you would think that the county board would do something about it but no....................we have a situation that Prenty is his director of elections and men like Goonan and Feeney going around canvassing for him. These people are using Mayo GAA for there own personal gain. I would love to know what Micky Moran thinks of the whole setup, it stinks in my opinion. Sport and politics should not mix and shame on the county board and JOM for doing that.
Seems to be the case, and well put. It was mentioned to me in '04 that the Mayo County Board was a De Facto extension of the Mayo Branch of FG and I rubbished the claim, until I looked into it
The county board chairman also has strong Fine Gael ties and was on the canvass trail!
Quote from: intoDwest on May 29, 2007, 03:44:35 PM
But low and behold there is an election coming then he take the mayo job ,and then allows himself to be nominated as a FG candidate for election.
IntoDwest, you make some fair points but the one above is not one of them. He was asked and in turn decided to run for FG before the Mayo Managers job was accepted. I can see why people are going to be cynical about it all but Johnno has stated he will remain in the job and that is good enough for me. I think some people on the board are actually the ones mixing sport and politics as there is alot of anti-FG stuff being said and they in turn are turning on Johnno. I personally don't care what party he belongs to or what he does to earn a living, that's his business. He has said that he is in this for the long term, he should be taken at his word and hopefully he will deliver what we all want. He had to be swamped in the last few weeks between campaigning and getting ready for Galway. I really believe he will have more time now and hopefully we will win a couple of games in the qualifiers, get the show back on the road, and end this politics shite talk once and for all.
Quote from: OirthearMhaigheo on May 30, 2007, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: intoDwest on May 29, 2007, 03:44:35 PM
But low and behold there is an election coming then he take the mayo job ,and then allows himself to be nominated as a FG candidate for election.
IntoDwest, you make some fair points but the one above is not one of them. He was asked and in turn decided to run for FG before the Mayo Managers job was accepted. I can see why people are going to be cynical about it all but Johnno has stated he will remain in the job and that is good enough for me. I think some people on the board are actually the ones mixing sport and politics as there is alot of anti-FG stuff being said and they in turn are turning on Johnno. I personally don't care what party he belongs to or what he does to earn a living, that's his business. He has said that he is in this for the long term, he should be taken at his word and hopefully he will deliver what we all want. He had to be swamped in the last few weeks between campaigning and getting ready for Galway. I really believe he will have more time now and hopefully we will win a couple of games in the qualifiers, get the show back on the road, and end this politics shite talk once and for all.
He was asked to take the mayo job in 2005 but turned it down. what happened between then and 2006 when he decided to take the job was that he got the fg nomination.Like you said Oirthear its all over now so lets hope he can give 100% to the football and get the show back on the road.
I'm all for leaving politics out of it, but when you have the full compliment of "Top" Mayo GAA officials running around canvassing for FG along with that uber p***k Sean Feeney stating live on National Radio that the GAA is "also a political organisation" than the question has to be asked, who is running Mayo GAA, Fine Gael or the GAA ??
And I'm not anti-Fine Gael at all
Quote from: stephenite on May 30, 2007, 10:51:45 AM
the question has to be asked, who is running Mayo GAA, Fine Gael or the GAA ??
I always thought it was David Brady?
Quote from: Hardy on May 30, 2007, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: stephenite on May 30, 2007, 10:51:45 AM
the question has to be asked, who is running Mayo GAA, Fine Gael or the GAA ??
I always thought it was David Brady?
Aren't you the right funny lad hardy :) :)
Quote from: Hardy on May 30, 2007, 11:17:00 AM
I always thought it was David Brady?
David Brady has enough to be doing... :D :D :D
http://www.westernpeople.ie/news/story.asp?j=36952&cat=news
AFTER a night of glitz and glamour in Ballina on Friday night last, Fallon McShea walked away with the highly coveted Miss Mayo 2007 title.
The Claremorris native was selected from a total of fifteen entrants who took part in the Miss Mayo Final held in the Ridgepool Hotel, Ballina in aid of Mayo/Roscommon Hospice.
After a nail-biting interval when judges Lynda Duffy, Deirdre Clarke and David Brady retired to make their decision, Fallon was crowned this year's title holder and will now go on to participate in Miss Ireland in the Silver Springs in Cork on June 30.
I think fellas could be getting a bit carried away here.
When Johnno was in the wilderness the story was that the Board hated the sight of him. Now people are posting that the Board are his best buddies, that they were all out on the stump for him, and the County Board is actually a de facto extra cumann of Fine Gael? Both stories can't be true, you know. And a that was then, this is now argument won't work because I believe the same bucks have been on the Board since Old God's time, if not before.
The absence of any game for so long is starting to give people cabin fever, like poor Jack Nicholson in that movie long ago. I'd advise people to simply sit back, enjoy watching Meath and Dublin larrup the living Jesus out of each other this Sunday, and get the family holiday out of the way now before hostilities begin again in July. We'll worry about how things are looking then, but not before. Take it easy. Buy an Eagles record. ;)
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on May 30, 2007, 11:26:34 AM
I think fellas could be getting a bit carried away here.
When Johnno was in the wilderness the story was that the Board hated the sight of him. Now people are posting that the Board are his best buddies, that they were all out on the stump for him, and the County Board is actually a de facto extra cumann of Fine Gael? Both stories can't be true, you know. And a that was then, this is now argument won't work because I believe the same bucks have been on the Board since Old God's time, if not before.
The absence of any game for so long is starting to give people cabin fever, like poor Jack Nicholson in that movie long ago. I'd advise people to simply sit back, enjoy watching Meath and Dublin larrup the living Jesus out of each other this Sunday, and get the family holiday out of the way now before hostilities begin again in July. We'll worry about how things are looking then, but not before. Take it easy. Buy an Eagles record. ;)
you get my vote Iolarcoiscuain ;)
QuoteBuy an Eagles record.
It was all going so well up to that point. :P
Sean Feeney has just released a statement saying that Mayo are going to wear blue shirts for the next three years :P
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 30, 2007, 11:35:38 AM
It was all going so well up to that point. :P
Ah don't be like that Billy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd9WBhum_oc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd9WBhum_oc)
Woo hoo hoo... woo hoo hoo ..... wooo hooo hooo... Groovy. ;D
I've just had a nasty flashback to Barton's buses in the 1980s. :-\
In the words of The Dude - "I hate the f'n Eagles".