"Normalcy" instead of normality.
Aluminum >:(
Abuse of the definite article.
"The San Jose Airport."
"The San Jose City Council."
"The US Congress."
"A couple things" instead of "a couple of things."
Think it was Coolidge or Hoover back in the 20s who coined "normalcy".
Why, I don't know.
WTF is wrong with "normality"?
I refuse to use the word "normalcy".
Incorrect use of the verb to "lay."
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 12:44:29 AM
Abuse of the definite article.
"The San Jose Airport."
"The San Jose City Council."
"The US Congress."
Those are all fine, unless there are more than one of each.
But there's only one of each. When was the last time you heard someone say "The Belfast City Council" or "The Belfast International Airport?"
Quote from: J70 on June 23, 2020, 12:47:02 AM
Think it was Coolidge or Hoover back in the 20s who coined "normalcy".
Why, I don't know.
WTF is wrong with "normality"?
I refuse to use the word "normalcy".
I hate the word "normalcy" with a passion.
"Systemic" instead of "systematic."
"Efficacy" instead of "effectiveness."
I even heard a fella on the radio one time saying "efficacious" instead of plain old simple "effective." WT actual F?
and could you not just ask me, instead of reaching out?
We'll touch base on that
Quote from: J70 on June 23, 2020, 12:47:02 AM
Think it was Coolidge or Hoover back in the 20s who coined "normalcy".
Why, I don't know.
WTF is wrong with "normality"?
I refuse to use the word "normalcy".
Warren Harding. Although it was around prior to that, his campaign slogan used it - "Back to Normalcy". It got mocked at first, then it became the more common word in the US.
https://youtu.be/uUteMtNhe3g
Tomato
Oregano
Way to go.
Adult
I have no clue.
Quarter of 12 (when telling the time)
Happy Holidays.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2020, 11:01:29 AM
Happy Holidays.
Absolutely nothing wrong with that one. Xmas is not the only major holiday celebrated in the US at that time of year.
chips and fries.
Confused the f**k out of me as a greenhorn in NYC back in the 90's before our TV's were totally awash with US "culture"..
Every time they open their feckin mouths.
But my main one is saying "Monday thru (sic) Friday" instead if Monday to Friday.
"Gotten" is my no 2.
Sadly many people here use those and other Americanisms nowadays.
Especially local radio presenters .. ".ceremoanies" "categoary" and worst of all "Here is the Noos"
Grrrrrrrr!
Capitol
Cloture
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 23, 2020, 10:54:44 AM
I have no clue.
Quarter of 12 (when telling the time)
A few Derry wans say similar
Quote from: J70 on June 23, 2020, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2020, 11:01:29 AM
Happy Holidays.
Absolutely nothing wrong with that one. Xmas is not the only major holiday celebrated in the US at that time of year.
Gone native, have we?
Quote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2020, 12:33:06 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 23, 2020, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2020, 11:01:29 AM
Happy Holidays.
Absolutely nothing wrong with that one. Xmas is not the only major holiday celebrated in the US at that time of year.
Gone native, have we?
No.
Just aware that I live in an extremely multicultural and religiously diverse place and it is good manners to be inclusive and not assume that the person you are talking to comes from a christian background and celebrates xmas.
That said, I'll always say happy xmas to friends and relatives who I know celebrate it.
Quote from: johnnycool on June 23, 2020, 11:26:07 AM
chips and fries.
Confused the f**k out of me as a greenhorn in NYC back in the 90's before our TV's were totally awash with US "culture"..
That one does my head in. It's f**king chips! I'd be swinging for anyone saying fries. God, I wouldn't be letting them on the bus if they said fries!! They can get a taxi.
Quote from: BennyCake on June 23, 2020, 12:54:56 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 23, 2020, 11:26:07 AM
chips and fries.
Confused the f**k out of me as a greenhorn in NYC back in the 90's before our TV's were totally awash with US "culture"..
That one does my head in. It's f**king chips! I'd be swinging for anyone saying fries. God, I wouldn't be letting them on the bus if they said fries!! They can get a taxi.
Problem in the US is that what we call "crisps" are called "chips" there.
If you want to be understood, you have to go along with it.
Fanny pack
Quote from: redzone on June 23, 2020, 01:18:52 PM
Fanny pack
This will explain all
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R7UHKfqXYTU
(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R7UHKfqXYTU)
Quote from: J70 on June 23, 2020, 01:08:24 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 23, 2020, 12:54:56 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 23, 2020, 11:26:07 AM
chips and fries.
Confused the f**k out of me as a greenhorn in NYC back in the 90's before our TV's were totally awash with US "culture"..
That one does my head in. It's f**king chips! I'd be swinging for anyone saying fries. God, I wouldn't be letting them on the bus if they said fries!! They can get a taxi.
Problem in the US is that what we call "crisps" are called "chips" there.
If you want to be understood, you have to go along with it.
I dont plan going there, so that won't be an issue. What is an issue is, when feckin' American language makes its way over here!
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
But there's only one of each. When was the last time you heard someone say "The Belfast City Council" or "The Belfast International Airport?"
An Taoiseach, An Dail. The singer out of the Rolling Stones. Are these wrong too?
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
But there's only one of each. When was the last time you heard someone say "The Belfast City Council" or "The Belfast International Airport?"
An Taoiseach, An Dail. The singer out of the Rolling Stones. Are these wrong too?
I thought this thread was about the American use of English, their use of Irish is even worse!
More than one member of the Rolling Stones may sing.
Only one is the singer though.
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
But there's only one of each. When was the last time you heard someone say "The Belfast City Council" or "The Belfast International Airport?"
An Taoiseach, An Dail. The singer out of the Rolling Stones. Are these wrong too?
We're talking about English, not Irish.
A noun like "singer" does not refer to an airport or a legislature.
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 03:43:17 PM
Only one is the singer though.
Several of them sing
https://youtu.be/SGyOaCXr8Lw?t=140
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
But there's only one of each. When was the last time you heard someone say "The Belfast City Council" or "The Belfast International Airport?"
An Taoiseach, An Dail. The singer out of the Rolling Stones. Are these wrong too?
We're talking about English, not Irish.
A noun like "singer" does not refer to an airport or a legislature.
OK, I thought your issue was using 'the' to refer to an entity of which there is only one. I'm not sure now what you're objecting to now. Is it the use of 'The' to refer to some sort of entity referred to by a proper noun?
If that's the issue, do you have the same problem with talk of The Dail?
In any event, the 'the' in 'The US Congress' attaches to 'US', not to 'Congress'. No-one calls it The Congress, and it would sound strange in most contexts to call it US Congress (without the 'the' prefix).
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
But there's only one of each. When was the last time you heard someone say "The Belfast City Council" or "The Belfast International Airport?"
An Taoiseach, An Dail. The singer out of the Rolling Stones. Are these wrong too?
We're talking about English, not Irish.
A noun like "singer" does not refer to an airport or a legislature.
OK, I thought your issue was using 'the' to refer to an entity of which there is only one. I'm not sure now what you're objecting to now. Is it the use of 'The' to refer to some sort of entity referred to by a proper noun?
If that's the issue, do you have the same problem with talk of The Dail?
In any event, the 'the' in 'The US Congress' attaches to 'US', not to 'Congress'. No-one calls it The Congress, and it would sound strange in most contexts to call it US Congress (without the 'the' prefix).
Sorry, but I've heard it referred to as "the Congress." It's a thing. That's what I'm objecting to.
As for airports, when was the last time you heard someone say "I'm flying out of the Dublin airport?"
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
But there's only one of each. When was the last time you heard someone say "The Belfast City Council" or "The Belfast International Airport?"
An Taoiseach, An Dail. The singer out of the Rolling Stones. Are these wrong too?
We're talking about English, not Irish.
A noun like "singer" does not refer to an airport or a legislature.
OK, I thought your issue was using 'the' to refer to an entity of which there is only one. I'm not sure now what you're objecting to now. Is it the use of 'The' to refer to some sort of entity referred to by a proper noun?
If that's the issue, do you have the same problem with talk of The Dail?
In any event, the 'the' in 'The US Congress' attaches to 'US', not to 'Congress'. No-one calls it The Congress, and it would sound strange in most contexts to call it US Congress (without the 'the' prefix).
What about The Moy and The Ukraine?
More in relation to debating on discussion boards or forums. The use of "could of" instead of "could have". It happens here on gaa board but Its use by Americans is rampant. The correct one is "could have" or "could 've" never "could of".
Does saying the month before the date count? "June 24th" ... aye catch yourself on
Quote from: LeoMc on June 23, 2020, 10:13:39 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
But there's only one of each. When was the last time you heard someone say "The Belfast City Council" or "The Belfast International Airport?"
An Taoiseach, An Dail. The singer out of the Rolling Stones. Are these wrong too?
We're talking about English, not Irish.
A noun like "singer" does not refer to an airport or a legislature.
OK, I thought your issue was using 'the' to refer to an entity of which there is only one. I'm not sure now what you're objecting to now. Is it the use of 'The' to refer to some sort of entity referred to by a proper noun?
If that's the issue, do you have the same problem with talk of The Dail?
In any event, the 'the' in 'The US Congress' attaches to 'US', not to 'Congress'. No-one calls it The Congress, and it would sound strange in most contexts to call it US Congress (without the 'the' prefix).
What about The Moy and The Ukraine?
Dunno about the Moy but "The Ukraine" is offensive to Ukrainians because it implies that their country is part of Russia, like a "British Isles" type of thing. It was "The Ukraine" when it was part of the USSR. Trump still talks about "The" Ukraine but it's hard to know if that's to suck up to Putin or if it's because he's just plain stupid.
Quoth Wikipedia:
Ukraine is one of a few English country names traditionally used with the definite article.[1] Use of the article was standard before Ukrainian independence, but decreased since the 1990s.[2][3][26] For example, the Associated Press dropped the article "the" on 3 December 1991.[3] Use of the definite article was seen as suggesting a non-sovereign territory, much like "the Lebanon" referred to the region before its independence, or as one might refer to "the Midwest".[27] [28][29]
In 1993 the Ukrainian government explicitly requested that the article be dropped,[30] and use of "Ukraine" without the definite article has since become commonplace in journalism and diplomacy (other examples are the style guides of The Guardian[31] and The Times[32]).
Quote from: LeoMc on June 23, 2020, 10:13:39 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
But there's only one of each. When was the last time you heard someone say "The Belfast City Council" or "The Belfast International Airport?"
An Taoiseach, An Dail. The singer out of the Rolling Stones. Are these wrong too?
We're talking about English, not Irish.
A noun like "singer" does not refer to an airport or a legislature.
OK, I thought your issue was using 'the' to refer to an entity of which there is only one. I'm not sure now what you're objecting to now. Is it the use of 'The' to refer to some sort of entity referred to by a proper noun?
If that's the issue, do you have the same problem with talk of The Dail?
In any event, the 'the' in 'The US Congress' attaches to 'US', not to 'Congress'. No-one calls it The Congress, and it would sound strange in most contexts to call it US Congress (without the 'the' prefix).
What about The Moy and The Ukraine?
These are translations from other languages, but most people only say Ukraine nowadays.
"Resiliency." What's wrong with resilience?
"Historical." What's wrong with historic?
I've done that already...instead of I've already done that. That drives me insane
Baby carriage
GPS
Zucchini.
Pants.
Sidewalk.
WTF?
I live in Toronto and get funny looks when i say the following:
Ring someone = Call someone
Post a letter = Mail a letter
Queue = Line up
Half 5 = Five Thirty
I'll call over (as in go to your desk) = i'll come by. This is probably the one that confuses them the most
If i say the number 2, 90% of the time they think i'm saying 3. On numerous occasions i've end up with 3 pints!
Quote from: BennyCake on June 24, 2020, 04:35:13 PM
Zucchini.
Pants.
Sidewalk.
WTF?
Zucchini - they use the Italian word for the fruit. It's no different that the use of the French word courgette.
Sidewalk is fairly self-explanatory - it's the side of the road where you walk. It's not any different to footpath.
Quote from: Mario on June 24, 2020, 06:26:47 PM
I live in Toronto and get funny looks when i say the following:
Ring someone = Call someone
Post a letter = Mail a letter
Queue = Line up
Half 5 = Five Thirty
I'll call over (as in go to your desk) = i'll come by. This is probably the one that confuses them the most
If i say the number 2, 90% of the time they think i'm saying 3. On numerous occasions i've end up with 3 pints!
Tell them you'll ring them in a fortnight.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 24, 2020, 04:06:00 PM
Baby carriage
GPS
What have you got against GPS? That's what it's called!
"Trolley" meaning tram. They make it sound like something small that you push by hand. "Streetcar" is even worse.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 23, 2020, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 23, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
But there's only one of each. When was the last time you heard someone say "The Belfast City Council" or "The Belfast International Airport?"
An Taoiseach, An Dail. The singer out of the Rolling Stones. Are these wrong too?
We're talking about English, not Irish.
A noun like "singer" does not refer to an airport or a legislature.
OK, I thought your issue was using 'the' to refer to an entity of which there is only one. I'm not sure now what you're objecting to now. Is it the use of 'The' to refer to some sort of entity referred to by a proper noun?
If that's the issue, do you have the same problem with talk of The Dail?
In any event, the 'the' in 'The US Congress' attaches to 'US', not to 'Congress'. No-one calls it The Congress, and it would sound strange in most contexts to call it US Congress (without the 'the' prefix).
Sorry, but I've heard it referred to as "the Congress." It's a thing. That's what I'm objecting to.
As for airports, when was the last time you heard someone say "I'm flying out of the Dublin airport?"
I'm surprised to hear that. I've lived here close on 30 years and I've never heard anyone say, or seen anyone write, 'the Congress'. Maybe it's a west coast thing?
On historic/historical, there is a clear use for 'historical' where 'historic' doesn't apply. As in "A historical introduction to psychology", where 'historic' would tend to reveal a fair amount of ego on the part of the author, as opposed to a guide to the history of the discipline.
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Quote from: armaghniac on June 24, 2020, 04:06:00 PM
Baby carriage
GPS
What have you got against GPS? That's what it's called!
A GPS is a device to receive your location from a satellite. A Sat-Nav is a device that tells you where you want to go, a GPS is just one component of this. Calling it a GPS is like calling a car a gearbox, your phone has a GPS FFS.
I don't know if it's a west coast thing, I hear it all the time here.
"The reduced federal district, over which the Congress would retain plenary authority, would consist of two square miles."
https://thedcline.org/2020/06/24/press-release-norton-releases-testimony-in-advance-of-todays-rules-committee-hearing-on-d-c-statehood-bill/
"With less than five months before U.S. elections, the partisanship displayed during the House Judiciary hearing was on display throughout the Congress."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-justice/democrats-accuse-presidents-fixer-barr-of-political-meddling-in-us-justice-system-idUSKBN23V2KT
"Let's not just pick on our presidents, what are we going to do about the Congress, the Senators, the Members of the House. They approved the Trail of Tears, Andrew Jackson's removal of the Cherokees to Oklahoma, the Congress did. And they approved the laws requiring segregation. The Congress did. And what about the people who elected the Congress? "
https://fox17.com/news/local/sen-alexander-tearing-down-andrew-jacksons-statue-would-be-a-terrible-misunderstanding
As for "historical," I hear it used where "historic" would be better. "Madam President, your visit here today is historical." (Maybe she meant hysterical.)
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 25, 2020, 01:05:47 AM
I don't know if it's a west coast thing, I hear it all the time here.
"The reduced federal district, over which the Congress would retain plenary authority, would consist of two square miles."
https://thedcline.org/2020/06/24/press-release-norton-releases-testimony-in-advance-of-todays-rules-committee-hearing-on-d-c-statehood-bill/
"With less than five months before U.S. elections, the partisanship displayed during the House Judiciary hearing was on display throughout the Congress."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-justice/democrats-accuse-presidents-fixer-barr-of-political-meddling-in-us-justice-system-idUSKBN23V2KT
"Let's not just pick on our presidents, what are we going to do about the Congress, the Senators, the Members of the House. They approved the Trail of Tears, Andrew Jackson's removal of the Cherokees to Oklahoma, the Congress did. And they approved the laws requiring segregation. The Congress did. And what about the people who elected the Congress? "
https://fox17.com/news/local/sen-alexander-tearing-down-andrew-jacksons-statue-would-be-a-terrible-misunderstanding
As for "historical," I hear it used where "historic" would be better. "Madam President, your visit here today is historical." (Maybe she meant hysterical.)
Nonsense. The yanks talk a serious amount of shite but saying "the congress" is not a big deal. At least it actually makes sense
Lived here for 7 odd years now and still can't get my head around they put the month first, then day...when stating a date.
I also can't bring myself to say garage they way they do, it's just wrong...and then on Father's Day I was extending the table because we had family over and I told the wife to turn the lever (lee-ver), well they all started taking the piss outta me...not impressed, grabbed a beer and went out to tend my BBQing tri tips!