Only heard the games on the radio, but in both football games the commentators were complementory of how both games were handled. Werent many cards dished out and play was allowed flow from what i heard. Was it good reffing or just timid games (sorry that should read "disciplined games")?
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By the way the new referee uniforms look better, at least they have a choice now
Yes, I heard that one of the refereeing directives this year was to cut down on dishing out yellow cards willy-nilly. Could've been a vintage year for 'clumsy' Francie!
New gear too.
I thought there were 2 very good reffing performances yesterday...A lot more attention was paid to over carrying when forwards ran into defenders looking for frees....A fair bit more physical contact was allowed than was to be expected which was good....any "cynical fouling" such as jersey pulling etc was punished quickly....
Thought McEnany (spelling?) was good, on a couple of occasions he noted players for bookings or tickings without stopping play as the fouled player was able to keep going with the ball. Next break in play he calls the player back. I believe Pat still plays junior football in monaghan and it shows, his positioning is very good and hes fit. The players seem to respect him also and he's consistent.
Couldn't agree about good referring at the Down v Cavan game , Inconsistent was the impression I left with .
I thought the refereeeing yesterday showed improvement too. In general it looked as though both referees were under instructions to avoid excessive card-waving, allow the physical clash and be aware of overcarrying and forwards looking for frees. I even thought I saw one forward being penalised for falling for nothing - free for handling on the ground. That's the stuff. They also seemed to favour the high catch at midfield, with several fairly easy frees being given to lads who were surrounded when they brought down a high one. That's good to see.
There were still too many frees given to forwards who fell when a man was behind them, whether they were touched or not but overall, the signs were hopeful. Of course, we've yet to see the real experts at free-falling and the next couple of weeks will tell a lot, not least the first appearance of Micko's latest franchise.
Overall quite good, although a very soft free awarded to Longford just before half time!
Both refs did well I thought. Credit where its due, hope the standard is kept up.
Someone told me there was 25 frees awarded to Cavan and 12 to Down can anyone confirm this ?
yea it seemed that the effort last year where one mistimed, honest attempt, to get the ball saw a yellow dished out is gone.
to be fair it is still up to the players which is a point often missed.
Quote from: downredblack on May 14, 2007, 02:29:02 PM
Someone told me there was 25 frees awarded to Cavan and 12 to Down can anyone confirm this ?
Yeah, thats what they called in the commentary towards the end of the game.
I thought the Ref in the Ulster game was very good. Whereas I think Pat Mc is probably the best ref in the country, I thought he did try to make a game of it at the end of the Leinster game, gave Westmeath some soft frees.
Overall, Its great that we can talk so positively of refs for a change
Next week will tell how good the ref are when "Players" from meath are let out for their annual run around croke park ;D
Quote from: Louth Exile on May 14, 2007, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: downredblack on May 14, 2007, 02:29:02 PM
Someone told me there was 25 frees awarded to Cavan and 12 to Down can anyone confirm this ?
Yeah, thats what they called in the commentary towards the end of the game.
I thought the Ref in the Ulster game was very good. Whereas I think Pat Mc is probably the best ref in the country, I thought he did try to make a game of it at the end of the Leinster game, gave Westmeath some soft frees.
Overall, Its great that we can talk so positively of refs for a change
I agree that Pat is one of the best refs in the country but "gave Westmeath some soft frees" at the end? :o :o :o Jaysus, all I can remember is John Connellan running along the 21 away from goals, his marker clipping his heels and Pat didn't move a muscle. Was at a pivotal moment in the match as well when it was up for grabs. Still gotta take the rough with the smooth.
In fairness Croí, he missed a few for Longford too, and Boyle/Keane got away with murder in the first half. I remember about halfway through the first half O'Shaughnessy was able to catch cleanly in midfield because Flanagan had hauled Hannify to the ground - no whistle, and it led directly to an easy WH point. Swings and roundabouts, as always - I thought McEneaney was alright yesterday.
That's right Croí - that was the clearest trip you could ever see. Equally clearly, it was a complete accident and I think that's why McEnaney didn't give it, which is wrong. I's not the referee's job to read his mind. It's a foul whether he meant it or not, but as Billy says there are always a few dodgy ones either way.
The ref in the new york game yesterday was very bad,ever time a new york player touched a sligo player he got ticked or booked!
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 14, 2007, 04:43:14 PM
In fairness Croí, he missed a few for Longford too, and Boyle/Keane got away with murder in the first half. I remember about halfway through the first half O'Shaughnessy was able to catch cleanly in midfield because Flanagan had hauled Hannify to the ground - no whistle, and it led directly to an easy WH point. Swings and roundabouts, as always - I thought McEneaney was alright yesterday.
I'm sure he did miss a few for Longford as well but the one I raised above (agree completely accidental Hardy), well he was the closest person to it and still didn't raise a whisker. I couldn't (and still can't) believe it. I'd liken Boyle/Keane's performance in the first half to the job done on Dessie/Glennon in the second, i.e. close to the edge. Can anyone explain to me what Boyle was booked for by a linesman the whole width of the field away???
On the positive side for McEneaney, he was spot on for penalising players on both sides for picking the ball off the ground.
i agree with devil he was very bad
sent out from ireland to make sure new york wouldnt win!... not that there was any danger of that :(
Quote from: new devil on May 14, 2007, 04:47:19 PM
every time a new york player touched a sligo player he got ticked or booked!
He should have got the message then and stopped doing it!
Quote from: 5iveTimes on May 14, 2007, 06:48:04 PM
I thought the Referee in Cavan yesterday was dire to say the least. Cavan got a lot of easy frees, including the one that McCabe scored in injury time to put them one up, while Down rarely got anything,
That is just bias if you didn't think the last free was a foul. The Cavan player was bending down to pick up the ball when a Down player kicked at him from behind - a free all day long.
Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2007, 07:17:58 PM
Quote from: new devil on May 14, 2007, 04:47:19 PM
every time a new york player touched a sligo player he got ticked or booked!
He should have got the message then and stopped doing it!
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With apologies to Tommy Cooper.
I was at the Ulster hurling matches on Sunday and the refereeinh in the Derry and Armagh was a disgrace. It spoiled what wasn't a dirty game in any way!