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Title: GAA Revenues
Post by: seafoid on January 31, 2018, 06:01:05 PM
For such an important institution 65m isn't a lot.....

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-purchase-50-acre-farm-to-provide-playing-surface-replacements-for-croke-park-and-other-stadia-36551369.html

THE GAA enjoyed a bumper 2017 generating total revenue of €65.6m, an increase of nine percent on the previous year.

The growth was due to a 24 percent increase in attendances at games in the All-Ireland football championship allied to big jump in revenue from the GAA's new media contracts – including their controversial deal with Sky.

A €1.5m increase in gate receipts for the football championship helped pushed the total figure for games under the control of the Central Council to a record €34.4m for the 2017 season. Commercial revenue totalled €19m compared to €17.9m in 2016.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: Itchy on January 31, 2018, 06:59:19 PM
Also in the report...

Even though there was a drop of over €200,000 in the grant which Dublin received towards Games Development last year they still received €1.2m in 2016 with Cork the next bigger recipient at €249,000.

Since the introduction of coaching grants in 2007, Dublin has received more than €16.m in funding directly from Croke Park with Cork the next biggest recipients at just over €1m.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: Crete Boom on January 31, 2018, 07:20:40 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 31, 2018, 06:59:19 PM
Also in the report...

Even though there was a drop of over €200,000 in the grant which Dublin received towards Games Development last year they still received €1.2m in 2016 with Cork the next bigger recipient at €249,000.

Since the introduction of coaching grants in 2007, Dublin has received more than €16.m in funding directly from Croke Park with Cork the next biggest recipients at just over €1m.

Does Dublin have 16 times the players of Cork I wonder to justify this disparity?? I wonder how much Mayo has received for coaching since 2007 or how much Cavan has received??
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: seafoid on January 31, 2018, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 31, 2018, 06:59:19 PM
Also in the report...

Even though there was a drop of over €200,000 in the grant which Dublin received towards Games Development last year they still received €1.2m in 2016 with Cork the next bigger recipient at €249,000.

Since the introduction of coaching grants in 2007, Dublin has received more than €16.m in funding directly from Croke Park with Cork the next biggest recipients at just over €1m.
How do they explain that?
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: From the Bunker on January 31, 2018, 07:41:12 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 31, 2018, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 31, 2018, 06:59:19 PM
Also in the report...

Even though there was a drop of over €200,000 in the grant which Dublin received towards Games Development last year they still received €1.2m in 2016 with Cork the next bigger recipient at €249,000.

Since the introduction of coaching grants in 2007, Dublin has received more than €16.m in funding directly from Croke Park with Cork the next biggest recipients at just over €1m.
How do they explain that?

It is important for the GAA to be strong in the Capital. The Capital is the main source of revenue in sponsorship and have the largest fan base.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 01, 2018, 07:46:17 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 31, 2018, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 31, 2018, 06:59:19 PM
Also in the report...

Even though there was a drop of over €200,000 in the grant which Dublin received towards Games Development last year they still received €1.2m in 2016 with Cork the next bigger recipient at €249,000.

Since the introduction of coaching grants in 2007, Dublin has received more than €16.m in funding directly from Croke Park with Cork the next biggest recipients at just over €1m.
How do they explain that?

Don't worry, The Greatest et al will do it for them.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: seafoid on February 01, 2018, 08:28:15 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 31, 2018, 07:41:12 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 31, 2018, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 31, 2018, 06:59:19 PM
Also in the report...

Even though there was a drop of over €200,000 in the grant which Dublin received towards Games Development last year they still received €1.2m in 2016 with Cork the next bigger recipient at €249,000.

Since the introduction of coaching grants in 2007, Dublin has received more than €16.m in funding directly from Croke Park with Cork the next biggest recipients at just over €1m.
How do they explain that?

It is important for the GAA to be strong in the Capital. The Capital is the main source of revenue in sponsorship and have the largest fan base.
And Man Utd are not what they used to bè so there are spare fans.
But the GAA should have no interest in monoculture.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: TheGreatest on February 01, 2018, 08:30:31 AM
Also in the report:

Counties also get grants from the provincial councils, who were paid a total of €1.39m for distribution last year. Cork came out on top in the overall payments to clubs and counties, scooping €2.2m, of which €1.3m went towards the redevelopment of Páirc Uí Chaoimh, which was completed in June.

Offaly also did well with capital grants, coming in second highest on €1.1m. Dublin were just behind Cork in overall payments, taking €1.98m, followed by Kerry (€1.3m) and Galway (€1.1m). Mayo topped the team expenses chart on €370,284, followed by Galway (€271,480), Dublin (€251,584) and Waterford (€194,000).


Dublin received 14% of all Games development money, seems reasonable.

Mayo spent 100k more than other teams. I am not sure if the Galway and Dublin expenditure include both codes but if they do, wow, but wow anyway.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: Esmarelda on February 01, 2018, 09:53:39 AM
Surely a reduction of €200,000 from the previous year is a step in the right direction?
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 01, 2018, 09:57:48 AM
Can someone expand on the expenses, is that HQ contributing towards towards mileage expenses?
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: rosnarun on February 01, 2018, 10:07:26 AM
Quote from: Crete Boom on January 31, 2018, 07:20:40 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 31, 2018, 06:59:19 PM
Also in the report...

Even though there was a drop of over €200,000 in the grant which Dublin received towards Games Development last year they still received €1.2m in 2016 with Cork the next bigger recipient at €249,000.

Since the introduction of coaching grants in 2007, Dublin has received more than €16.m in funding directly from Croke Park with Cork the next biggest recipients at just over €1m.

Does Dublin have 16 times the players of Cork I wonder to justify this disparity?? I wonder how much Mayo has received for coaching since 2007 or how much Cavan has received??
i jnow cork have more clubs than Dublin not sure if they have as many players but probably would not be far off.
I tink the Dublin money is mainly for players they don't have
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: Rossfan on February 01, 2018, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 01, 2018, 09:57:48 AM
Can someone expand on the expenses, is that HQ contributing towards towards mileage expenses?
Is that just match day grants for teams playing in Central Council fixtures?
Mayowestros played 7 or 8 of those last year.
Figures of nose of Registered players was shown on some thread a few months ago.
Dublin had c 39,000 Cork c 23,000.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: twohands!!! on February 01, 2018, 03:56:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 01, 2018, 09:57:48 AM
Can someone expand on the expenses, is that HQ contributing towards towards mileage expenses?

I heard somewhere a while back that HQ was taking over administration of the mileage expenses for intercounty players.
Apparently it was at the request of the GPA as some intercounty boards consistently had issues with reimbursing the players in a timely manner [code for were acting the bollix in terms of favouring one code over the other].
From what I heard the individual county boards would still be the ones responsible for covering all the costs for mileage.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: TheGreatest on February 02, 2018, 08:33:49 AM
Mayo topped the team expenses chart on €370,284

Just wondering what the likes are Sligo, Leitrim and Clare feel about this , unfair advantage, how can they compete.

Needs to be looked into, a central pot and each team gets and equal share of expenses for the provincial championship.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: thewobbler on February 02, 2018, 08:54:09 AM
While mayo's spending is disproportionally high even in that quartet, the fact that the four highest spenders were the four all Ireland finalists should tell you that their spending isn't greater than Sligo because they're pulling strokes, but because they're successful on the field.

Mayo and Galway outspend the other pair because they've further to travel for the majority of their matches.

Then when you factor in 2 replays in Croke Park, you can largely explain their additional spend over the the other finalists.


Sometimes things just aren't sinister at all folks.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: TheGreatest on February 02, 2018, 09:01:07 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 02, 2018, 08:54:09 AM
While mayo's spending is disproportionally high even in that quartet, the fact that the four highest spenders were the four all Ireland finalists should tell you that their spending isn't greater than Sligo because they're pulling strokes, but because they're successful on the field.

Mayo and Galway outspend the other pair because they've further to travel for the majority of their matches.

Then when you factor in 2 replays in Croke Park, you can largely explain their additional spend over the the other finalists.


Sometimes things just aren't sinister at all folks.

Serious amount to spend though, If you don't have the money you cant compete until the end is what your saying.

And Galway and Mayo having far large populations than Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon. Something needs to be done here.

I also realise Clare are not in Connaught.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 02, 2018, 09:23:41 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 02, 2018, 09:01:07 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 02, 2018, 08:54:09 AM
While mayo's spending is disproportionally high even in that quartet, the fact that the four highest spenders were the four all Ireland finalists should tell you that their spending isn't greater than Sligo because they're pulling strokes, but because they're successful on the field.

Mayo and Galway outspend the other pair because they've further to travel for the majority of their matches.

Then when you factor in 2 replays in Croke Park, you can largely explain their additional spend over the the other finalists.


Sometimes things just aren't sinister at all folks.

Serious amount to spend though, If you don't have the money you cant compete until the end is what your saying.

And Galway and Mayo having far large populations than Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon. Something needs to be done here.

I also realise Clare are not in Connaught.

Trust me, it already is. Has been since famine times.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: thewobbler on February 02, 2018, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 02, 2018, 09:01:07 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 02, 2018, 08:54:09 AM
While mayo's spending is disproportionally high even in that quartet, the fact that the four highest spenders were the four all Ireland finalists should tell you that their spending isn't greater than Sligo because they're pulling strokes, but because they're successful on the field.

Mayo and Galway outspend the other pair because they've further to travel for the majority of their matches.

Then when you factor in 2 replays in Croke Park, you can largely explain their additional spend over the the other finalists.


Sometimes things just aren't sinister at all folks.

Serious amount to spend though, If you don't have the money you cant compete until the end is what your saying.

And Galway and Mayo having far large populations than Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon. Something needs to be done here.

I also realise Clare are not in Connaught.

That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that if you train for 10 months and have 5 or 6 big days out in Croke Park, then your spending is going to be a lot higher than if you train for 7 months and don't play a match beyond your province.

Counties that go further spend more. They don't get there because they spend more.
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 02, 2018, 11:49:20 AM
This was on the Irish times a few weeks ago highlighting how far some counties have to go and clearly the more living outside the county the higher the traveling expensives

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DT_IKuPXcAAXKgX.jpg)



 
Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: TheGreatest on February 05, 2018, 11:05:54 AM
Nice new car for Aiden O Shea which was happy to show us all on twitter, he took a break from liking Ewan McKenna's Dub bashing tweets. Fair play to him.

Again, the likes of Leitrim and Sligo etc., how do you compete with Mayo and Galway in Connaught, big difference in population and finances.

Title: Re: GAA Revenues
Post by: westbound on February 05, 2018, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 05, 2018, 11:05:54 AM
Nice new car for Aiden O Shea which was happy to show us all on twitter, he took a break from liking Ewan McKenna's Dub bashing tweets. Fair play to him.

Again, the likes of Leitrim and Sligo etc., how do you compete with Mayo and Galway in Connaught, big difference in population and finances.

They aren't able to. That's part of the problem. Mayo and Galway can't compete with Dublin's resources.
So what do you suggest to level the playing field?