It might sound a bit trivial but it is the principal of it.
I started an account to do a bit of editing, I tried to edit Liam Neesons nationality to Irish, this isn't controversial as he talks about being Irish on most of his TV interviews but my edit was reverted by an 18 year old Australian because "There was no proof that Neeson was Irish", I explained about him calling himself Irish in interviews but he said I need official proof of his nationality. The way they have listed Neeson is "Actor from Northern Ireland" which is ok compared to other celebrity pages.
Of course you don't seem to have to need official proof when calling someone Northern Irish on wikipedia, it isn't an official nationality anyway so getting official proof isn't possible.
I tried to edit some soccer figures like Neil Lennon, Pat Jennings and Brendan Rodgers to "professional footballer from Northern Ireland" to keep things in line with what I was told by the Neeson editor, of course my changes were reverted back to "Northern Irish professional footballer" because "there was no need to edit them", I assumed since they played for Northern Ireland at some stage they had to be categorised as Northern Irish which is their own fault really, James McClean is listed as "Irish".
Recently I tried to edit actor Colin Morgan who is from Armagh and has called himself Irish in a TV3 interview to "Irish actor", my change was reverted back to "British/Irish" actor because of dual citizenship, the unionist editor wouldn't be as quick to change a Protestant actor to being British/Irish.
Then there were a couple more figures, Johnny McDaid being one, a musician originally from Derry, I changed him from Northern Irish to "from Northern Ireland" of course it wasn't allowed and the editor threatened to ban me, apparently it was ok to call him Northern Irish as the 2011 census showed a lot of Catholics view themselves as Northern Irish only.
To sum things up it is ok for unionist identities to be put on people but it isn't ok for Irish to be used as a nationality for someone of the Ulster-Irish heritage. It isn't ok for Neeson to be Irish but it is ok for the Northern Irish tag to be used for people.
It is a bit trivial.
Trying to boycott a massive and genuinely awesome open source project like Wikipedia because of a few rogue issues you have with it is a very north of Ireland response to a problem.
What was the editor's name? Was it Mooretwin?
Have you nothing better to be doing?
Quote from: Jim Bob on November 03, 2017, 05:15:09 PM
Have you nothing better to be doing?
You know the time it took you to type that comment is the same time it takes to make a wikipedia edit
doesn't make his point any less valid
Quote from: Syferus on November 03, 2017, 05:10:04 PM
It is a bit trivial.
Trying to boycott a massive and genuinely awesome open source project like Wikipedia because of a few rogue issues you have with it is a very north of Ireland response to a problem.
I urged Irish nationalists to boycott wikipedia, if you aren't irritated by this then you aren't an Irish Nationalist.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 03, 2017, 05:11:03 PM
What was the editor's name? Was it Mooretwin?
There were several editors involved, one was a unionist but a lot of his major writing was in Irish history especially ancient Ulster history.
Quote from: trentoneill15 on November 03, 2017, 05:18:08 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on November 03, 2017, 05:15:09 PM
Have you nothing better to be doing?
You know the time it took you to type that comment is the same time it takes to make a wikipedia edit
.....and the long introductory post?
Checked Liam Neeson and it is showing his nationality as Irish. Also checked a few of our writers that the Brits often claim. It has Oscar Wilde as Irish and Bram Stoker as Irish. Has George Bernard Shaw as dual. Hard to make a case that it is biased.
Last time I looked at the GAA page the "criticism" section had grown to engulf over a quarter of the page because of a unionist editor compiling every negative thing that was ever said about the gah. After numerous disputes with him I promptly applied the same standard to the Linfield FC page.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 03, 2017, 05:49:09 PM
Last time I looked at the GAA page the "criticism" section had grown to engulf over a quarter of the page because of a unionist editor compiling every negative thing that was ever said about the gah. After numerous disputes with him I promptly applied the same standard to the Linfield FC page.
There are some real sad cases on that site translating this, that and the other into Ulster Scots. Wouldn't blame wikipedia really.
And how exactly would you "boycott" wikipedia? They don't earn any revenue as their traffic grows.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 03, 2017, 08:48:10 PM
And how exactly would you "boycott" wikipedia? They don't earn any revenue as their traffic grows.
How about putting them on an ignore list. That usually works.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 03, 2017, 05:11:03 PM
What was the editor's name? Was it Mooretwin?
There's a blast from the past. Is he really at that?
As regards the OP, wise up.
Quote from: bennydorano on November 03, 2017, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 03, 2017, 05:11:03 PM
What was the editor's name? Was it Mooretwin?
There's a blast from the past. Is he really at that?
As regards the OP, wise up.
;D Harsh!
Quote from: bennydorano on November 03, 2017, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 03, 2017, 05:11:03 PM
What was the editor's name? Was it Mooretwin?
There's a blast from the past. Is he really at that?
He was back then. I used to do a bit of wiki editing when I had nothing better to do; nowadays I have a job that keeps me busier. Dunno if that gobs^&*e is still on his little loyalist crusade, but he was one bitter and twisted individual. As an olive branch I backed him up on some Irish cricket pages that were slated for deletion, but I don't know if it made much of an impression on him.
Have you brought this to Joe Duffy attention?
It's the type of shite he'd like
He probably would at that
Maybe before starting to edit an online encyclopedia you should establish the difference between a principal and a principle.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 03, 2017, 05:49:09 PM
Last time I looked at the GAA page the "criticism" section had grown to engulf over a quarter of the page because of a unionist editor compiling every negative thing that was ever said about the gah. After numerous disputes with him I promptly applied the same standard to the Linfield FC page.
I have come across many disputes with fanatic Wiki editors super imposing their particular beliefs in the name of objectivity or research based. In most cases I have found their reasoning to be pseudo and self serving.
I note that on the GAA wiki page there is a paragraph
The parish rule'Clubs, which are the basic unit of administration in the GAA, may have their catchment areas defined by the local Roman Catholic parish boundaries'.
There is no such parish rule and a club's boundary may be defined by a catholic church boundary area or it may not be bound.
In another context altogether there is a reference to a parish in the rule which defines what a 'home club' is for a player
for ladies
A Home Club means:
(a) A Club in the players Native Parish, or
(b) The Club in the Parish in which she resides, or
(c) The First Club with which she legally played in an Officially recognised Club Competition.
Quote from: bennydorano on November 03, 2017, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 03, 2017, 05:11:03 PM
What was the editor's name? Was it Mooretwin?
There's a blast from the past. Is he really at that?
As regards the OP, wise up.
Well then I hope your children or grandchildren become famous one day and they list them as Northern Irish. A man with 4763 posts on here insinuating that I spend too much time online?
Quote from: Keyser soze on November 04, 2017, 12:28:35 PM
Maybe before starting to edit an online encyclopedia you should establish the difference between a principal and a principle.
Sorry the English language was forced upon my people you see.
Quote from: Avondhu star on November 03, 2017, 11:06:11 PM
Have you brought this to Joe Duffy attention?
It's the type of shite he'd like
No I doubt RTE would allow a northerner to contact them.
Quote from: trentoneill15 on November 03, 2017, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 03, 2017, 05:10:04 PM
It is a bit trivial.
Trying to boycott a massive and genuinely awesome open source project like Wikipedia because of a few rogue issues you have with it is a very north of Ireland response to a problem.
I urged Irish nationalists to boycott wikipedia, if you aren't irritated by this then you aren't an Irish Nationalist.
Lol. ::)
Quote from: OakleafCounty on November 21, 2017, 10:33:31 AM
Quote from: trentoneill15 on November 03, 2017, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 03, 2017, 05:10:04 PM
It is a bit trivial.
Trying to boycott a massive and genuinely awesome open source project like Wikipedia because of a few rogue issues you have with it is a very north of Ireland response to a problem.
I urged Irish nationalists to boycott wikipedia, if you aren't irritated by this then you aren't an Irish Nationalist.
Lol. ::)
Just you keep rolling your eyes or maybe you could argue my point?
Have we brought Wikipedia to its knees yet?
Quote from: Syferus on November 21, 2017, 03:36:10 PM
Have we brought Wikipedia to its knees yet?
I don't know, I haven't looked at it, I get my information from other websites now.
Quote from: trentoneill15 on November 21, 2017, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 21, 2017, 03:36:10 PM
Have we brought Wikipedia to its knees yet?
I don't know, I haven't looked at it, I get my information from other websites now.
You know you're saving Wikipedia money by not wasting their bandwidth, right? You're actually doing more to support them than you were when you were visiting the site.
They're a non-profit that doesn't run ads..
We showed them!
ive been boycotting Wikipedia since the last time I had to look up something . does the make me a nationalist or do I have to get shot as well
ALL WIKIPEDIAPHILES WILL BE SHOT
UP RAAW