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Title: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: omochain on October 27, 2017, 04:53:05 AM
This should be fun to watch
Theresa May wants to honour the first woman elected to House of Commons - republican Countess Markievicz
http://jrnl.ie/3665661
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: magpie seanie on October 27, 2017, 09:44:49 AM
I'm convinced that neither the MP or Theresa May knew who they were talking about. Of course it should be honoured but I'd say when they realise it'll be ignored and some researcher will be sacked.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: AZOffaly on October 27, 2017, 10:09:26 AM
Especially since she didn't take her seat. I bet they'll celebrate the second one instead, the one who actually went to Westminster.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: Hardy on October 27, 2017, 10:27:09 AM
It was probably the "Countess" title that threw them.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: Rossfan on October 27, 2017, 11:10:11 AM
Isn't it long past time true republicans stopped calling her by that feudal nonsense name?
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: MoChara on October 27, 2017, 11:40:12 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 27, 2017, 11:10:11 AM
Isn't it long past time true republicans stopped calling her by that feudal nonsense name?

Its up there with Bobby Sands MP alright
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: armaghniac on October 27, 2017, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 27, 2017, 11:10:11 AM
Isn't it long past time true republicans stopped calling her by that feudal nonsense name?

It is reaching out to the Polish community.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: seafoid on October 27, 2017, 03:04:41 PM
She was a great woman. She probably didn't bar locals from walking on Lissadell land either, unlike the current owners.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: magpie seanie on October 28, 2017, 05:18:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 27, 2017, 03:04:41 PM
She was a great woman. She probably didn't bar locals from walking on Lissadell land either, unlike the current owners.

Lissadell would be falling asunder if it wasn't for those people so I'm not as inclined as some to pillory them. They've done a tremendous job there. Sligo county council taking them to court was ridiculous but of course the guy who oversaw it all ended up with a big job in Irish Water. 
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: Syferus on October 28, 2017, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 27, 2017, 03:04:41 PM
She was a great woman. She probably didn't bar locals from walking on Lissadell land either, unlike the current owners.

I really wonder what an ideal society looks like in your head. I can only imagine it's something that resembles Soviet propaganda posters from the 30s.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: seafoid on October 28, 2017, 08:43:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 28, 2017, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 27, 2017, 03:04:41 PM
She was a great woman. She probably didn't bar locals from walking on Lissadell land either, unlike the current owners.
You must be the only neoliberal in ros

I really wonder what an ideal society looks like in your head. I can only imagine it's something that resembles Soviet propaganda posters from the 30s.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: Rossfan on October 29, 2017, 09:46:55 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 28, 2017, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 27, 2017, 03:04:41 PM
She was a great woman. She probably didn't bar locals from walking on Lissadell land either, unlike the current owners.

I really wonder what an ideal society looks like in your head. I can only imagine it's something that resembles Soviet propaganda posters from the 30s.
I would suspect it's one that hasn't got 8,000 people officially homeless.

Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: seafoid on October 29, 2017, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 29, 2017, 09:46:55 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 28, 2017, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 27, 2017, 03:04:41 PM
She was a great woman. She probably didn't bar locals from walking on Lissadell land either, unlike the current owners.

I really wonder what an ideal society looks like in your head. I can only imagine it's something that resembles Soviet propaganda posters from the 30s.
I would suspect it's one that hasn't got 8,000 people officially homeless.
€95 bn to bail out banks would have supported a lot of small businesses in Knockcroghery.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: Syferus on October 29, 2017, 02:15:36 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 29, 2017, 09:46:55 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 28, 2017, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 27, 2017, 03:04:41 PM
She was a great woman. She probably didn't bar locals from walking on Lissadell land either, unlike the current owners.

I really wonder what an ideal society looks like in your head. I can only imagine it's something that resembles Soviet propaganda posters from the 30s.
I would suspect it's one that hasn't got 8,000 people officially homeless.

As oppposed to the millions in destitute poverty in other countries? An imperfect species will always lead to an imperfect society but we fare far, far better than almost all countries, and far better than we ourselves used to.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: Rossfan on October 29, 2017, 04:24:42 PM
In the worst days of the 30s our Government cleared slims and built thousands of social houses.
Never heard of a homeless problem in the 50s, 60s , 70s, 80s or 90s other than the poor sods with drink/drug/psychiatric issues.
The empties the country in Western Europe but among the dearest houses.
Not a peep out of the smoked salmon socialists,  no street protests being organised or the like about a real left wing issue.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: seafoid on October 29, 2017, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 29, 2017, 04:24:42 PM
In the worst days of the 30s our Government cleared slims and built thousands of social houses.
Never heard of a homeless problem in the 50s, 60s , 70s, 80s or 90s other than the poor sods with drink/drug/psychiatric issues.
The empties the country in Western Europe but among the dearest houses.
Not a peep out of the smoked salmon socialists,  no street protests being organised or the like about a real left wing issue.
The last year the UK built more than 250k houses was 1978. Most were social housing. In 1979 Thatcher was elected.
Neoliberalism doesn't like social housing. Same in Ireland when FF went over to the dark side.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: Syferus on October 29, 2017, 05:12:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 29, 2017, 04:24:42 PM
In the worst days of the 30s our Government cleared slims and built thousands of social houses.
Never heard of a homeless problem in the 50s, 60s , 70s, 80s or 90s other than the poor sods with drink/drug/psychiatric issues.
The empties the country in Western Europe but among the dearest houses.
Not a peep out of the smoked salmon socialists,  no street protests being organised or the like about a real left wing issue.

The UK has a homeless population of 250k. If we look at the ratio of homeless we have a rate of 0.15%, while the UK has a rate of 0.38%. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_population

Why would we be out protesting something we are actually doing quite well on? We can only do so much, but of course more can be done, and trying to make a case conditions overall are poor would be a serious stretch.

You carefully ignored the squalid and overcrowded conditions that existed in most areas of our country for much of the 20th century. The supports available now to homeless people and those in need are worlds away from what used to be possible.
Title: Re: Theresa May to honor Cumann na mban
Post by: Rossfan on October 29, 2017, 06:05:04 PM
Families in hotel rooms long term isn't doing very well.
Saying we're not as bad as the clowns next door isn't much consolation.
Of course the €150m p.a. foregone in charges for public water and sewerage would free up "General Taxation" to provide 600 or so social houses.
All the Government are doing is managing a needless crisis instead of taking measures to sort it out.