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Title: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Denn Forever on October 22, 2017, 11:07:53 AM
Trump is allowing the file on JFK to be released "subject to receipt of further information"..  An end or the final word on the JFK assination.  I must admit that, that"grassy knoll" conspiracy was always my favourite. 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41708854
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: gallsman on October 22, 2017, 11:40:25 AM
So, what's Trump looking to bury?
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Owen Brannigan on October 22, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
Apparently the remaining papers relate to Oswald in Mexico and Cuba and are being held back because they reveal CIA and FBI activities in the early sixties.  It may well be that the papers are released but redacted.  Experts believe that the remaining papers do nothing to reveal who assassinated JFK.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2017, 01:14:20 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 22, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
Apparently the remaining papers relate to Oswald in Mexico and Cuba and are being held back because they reveal CIA and FBI activities in the early sixties.  It may well be that the papers are released but redacted.  Experts believe that the remaining papers do nothing to reveal who assassinated JFK.

If they've never been seen how can there be experts on what they contain?
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: whitey on October 22, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
One rumour/theory is that Trump wants to discredit the Kennedys because he wants to neutralize a vocal Caroline Kennedy.  Kennedys are as dirty as the Clintons.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: stew on October 22, 2017, 02:14:46 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 22, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
One rumour/theory is that Trump wants to discredit the Kennedys because he wants to neutralize a vocal Caroline Kennedy.  Kennedys are as dirty as the Clintons.

Worse.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: BennyCake on October 22, 2017, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 22, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
One rumour/theory is that Trump wants to discredit the Kennedys because he wants to neutralize a vocal Caroline Kennedy.  Kennedys are as dirty as the Clintons.

Any clan that gets that high up the food chain aren't exactly snow white.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: mrdeeds on October 22, 2017, 04:04:18 PM
They were being released anyway because of the amount of time they could be closed has passed. Trump tried to take credit for it anyway.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Denn Forever on October 22, 2017, 04:29:10 PM
I think it is the perogative of a persident to release friles once the 40 year ?(rule ?) for classified inormation has elapsed.  FBI/CIA may not come of this smelling of roses.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Hardy on October 22, 2017, 06:06:23 PM
Who needs to wait for the official papers? Just ask Seamus.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Owen Brannigan on October 22, 2017, 06:44:45 PM
The papers were consigned to secrecy for 25 years and the period ends this month.  It was reckoned that there would be little interest in the assassination after 25 years and many mentioned in the papers would have died.

Trump's actual interest is to have another go at Ted Cruz whose father was supposed to be connected with Oswald.  It is part of the Trump agenda to get even with anyone who challenges him.  He is hoping for the papers to confirm that Cruz Snr had a role in the assassination.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2017, 07:00:49 PM
Don't reslly care what the transient political reasons for it are. One of the few things he's done I can get behind.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: magpie seanie on October 23, 2017, 12:44:03 PM
Quote from: stew on October 22, 2017, 02:14:46 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 22, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
One rumour/theory is that Trump wants to discredit the Kennedys because he wants to neutralize a vocal Caroline Kennedy.  Kennedys are as dirty as the Clintons.

Worse.

I'd take the Kennedys and Clintons 100 times over rather than the maniac in the White House now. Whatever people think about them their presidencies made the world safer, not more dangerous.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Minder on October 23, 2017, 01:02:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 23, 2017, 12:44:03 PM
Quote from: stew on October 22, 2017, 02:14:46 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 22, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
One rumour/theory is that Trump wants to discredit the Kennedys because he wants to neutralize a vocal Caroline Kennedy.  Kennedys are as dirty as the Clintons.

Worse.

I'd take the Kennedys and Clintons 100 times over rather than the maniac in the White House now. Whatever people think about them their presidencies made the world safer, not more dangerous.

Yep and the moronic "ones as bad as the other" argument we had around the presidential elections looks more ridiculous by the day
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: magpie seanie on October 23, 2017, 01:03:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 23, 2017, 01:02:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 23, 2017, 12:44:03 PM
Quote from: stew on October 22, 2017, 02:14:46 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 22, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
One rumour/theory is that Trump wants to discredit the Kennedys because he wants to neutralize a vocal Caroline Kennedy.  Kennedys are as dirty as the Clintons.

Worse.

I'd take the Kennedys and Clintons 100 times over rather than the maniac in the White House now. Whatever people think about them their presidencies made the world safer, not more dangerous.

Yep and the moronic "ones as bad as the other" argument we had around the presidential elections looks more ridiculous by the day

Moronic is the word, drove me mad at the time. It's possible to be much, much worse than someone who is "bad".
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: J70 on October 23, 2017, 01:22:16 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 22, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
One rumour/theory is that Trump wants to discredit the Kennedys because he wants to neutralize a vocal Caroline Kennedy.  Kennedys are as dirty as the Clintons.

Caroline Kennedy needs to be "neutralized"?? She's been "vocal"? When/where/about what?

And how would information about her father's assassination more than 50 years ago intimidate her into silence?
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: tonto1888 on October 23, 2017, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2017, 07:00:49 PM
Don't reslly care what the transient political reasons for it are. One of the few things he's done I can get behind.

its not him who's "allowing them to be released" though is it
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: red hander on October 23, 2017, 06:06:26 PM
Where's Lee Harvey Oswald today when you need him?
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Hardy on October 23, 2017, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: red hander on October 23, 2017, 06:06:26 PM
Where's Lee Harvey Oswald today when you need him?

I know your question is rhetorical, but it's an opportunity to post one of the great news pictures.

(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu206/Hardyarse/Oswald-Ruby_zpssln7e0k7.png) (http://s648.photobucket.com/user/Hardyarse/media/Oswald-Ruby_zpssln7e0k7.png.html)
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on November 19, 2017, 04:44:56 PM
There"s a lot of "foreknowledge after the fact" about the JFK assassination. It calls to mind Yogi Berra's quip. "It's hard to make predictions, especially about the future". Look up the FBI memo, I spot none-less than then FBI man Ted Gunderson, the legendary conspiracy theorist. Rugby, by the way, attended  the same synagogue as Abraham Zapruder, who filmed the assasination. Just like the dancing Israelis on 9/11, who's only "purpose was to document the event". The Jews have been in control of the American government for a long time.   
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: BennyCake on November 19, 2017, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: Hardy on October 23, 2017, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: red hander on October 23, 2017, 06:06:26 PM
Where's Lee Harvey Oswald today when you need him?

I know your question is rhetorical, but it's an opportunity to post one of the great news pictures.

(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu206/Hardyarse/Oswald-Ruby_zpssln7e0k7.png) (http://s648.photobucket.com/user/Hardyarse/media/Oswald-Ruby_zpssln7e0k7.png.html)

I have to laugh that Oswald was brought out like that after being accused of assassinating probably the most "powerful" man on the planet. Obviously Oswald was never meant to get as far as court. His inability to speak for himself (you know, with him being dead and all) confirming his "guilt"
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: BennyCake on December 06, 2017, 11:19:14 AM
JFK's Secret Killer on channel 5 a few days ago.

Was a good comedy show.

Apparently it was an accident all along. A secret service guy accidentally shot him from the car behind. Well, that's that sorted then.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Tyrdub on December 06, 2017, 12:08:30 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on December 06, 2017, 11:19:14 AM
JFK's Secret Killer on channel 5 a few days ago.

Was a good comedy show.

Apparently it was an accident all along. A secret service guy accidentally shot him from the car behind. Well, that's that sorted then.

yeah saw a bit of that. The SS guy took his safety off his M16 and slipped, his finger hit the trigger and he shot the president in the back of the head in the car in front - as if
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: Avondhu star on December 06, 2017, 02:04:27 PM
Why does everyone assume that J.F.K. was the target?
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: AZOffaly on December 06, 2017, 02:05:40 PM
True, the sniper could have been from Mayo....

Sorry, sorry.
Title: Re: JFK Papers to be releaased.
Post by: BennyCake on December 06, 2017, 02:18:51 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on December 06, 2017, 02:04:27 PM
Why does everyone assume that J.F.K. was the target?

Because Yoko wasn't in the car.