Since we're now a knee jerk sort of association any chance we could tackle the current blights in football? Firstly the cynicism that now destroys the final minutes of every match. It's become the norm now to drag and foul with impunity in the final minutes with the piecemeal black card meaning sweet fcuk all. Any foul now in the last attack should be rewarded with a 14 yard free. The black card actually aids cynical time wasting in the final 5 minutes.
Secondly something has to be done to tackle the keep ball of injury time now. It seems once injury is announced it singles the end of the leading team trying to cross the 45 and we're treated to 3 minutes of cornerback fullback 1-2s. I may as well watch Southampton play West Brom.
Any other suggestions?
Quote from: trileacman on October 01, 2017, 04:42:45 PM
Since we're now a knee jerk sort of association any chance we could tackle the current blights in football? Firstly the cynicism that now destroys the final minutes of every match. It's become the norm now to drag and foul with impunity in the final minutes with the piecemeal black card meaning sweet fcuk all. Any foul now in the last attack should be rewarded with a 14 yard free. The black card actually aids cynical time wasting in the final 5 minutes.
Secondly something has to be done to tackle the keep ball of injury time now. It seems once injury is announced it singles the end of the leading team trying to cross the 45 and we're treated to 3 minutes of cornerback fullback 1-2s. I may as well watch Southampton play West Brom.
Any other suggestions?
The keep-ball tactic is painful to watch, but it's up to the opposing team to chase the ball properly, and managemnet having them prepared to do this; you see defenders still marking their men when one pt down and the ball 70 yds away
Maybe the next rule change will be to exclude Dublin from the championship on the strength of them being far too good for the opposition.
The kick-out change should be called the Cluxton rule.
Sorry Stephen you've been the best goalkeeper in the history of the game but we have to bring in a rule change because you're too good. Next year can you please be a little bit shitter then everyone else and give them a chance like a good little boy.
I thought the Dublin delegate made a good point on the new kick out rule that I hadn't considered. If you force a kick between 2 20m lines you actually compress the field and favour the blanket defence teams.
No team can go back into their 50 yard line.
Limit hand passes to 2 in a row.
Quote from: BennyCake on October 01, 2017, 06:34:23 PM
No team can go back into their 50 yard line.
Limit hand passes to 2 in a row.
Agree with those Benny.
Quote from: INDIANA on October 01, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Maybe the next rule change will be to exclude Dublin from the championship on the strength of them being far too good for the opposition.
The kick-out change should be called the Cluxton rule.
Sorry Stephen you've been the best goalkeeper in the history of the game but we have to bring in a rule change because you're too good. Next year can you please be a little bit shitter then everyone else and give them a chance like a good little boy.
Those sideways kick outs don't require any skill and are an eyesore. Picking out a man in space 25-50 yards away is a great skill and nobody is better at it than Cluxton. This is a good rule change. We're losing nothing and gaining more contested kick outs.
Quote from: INDIANA on October 01, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Maybe the next rule change will be to exclude Dublin from the championship on the strength of them being far too good for the opposition.
The kick-out change should be called the Cluxton rule.
Sorry Stephen you've been the best goalkeeper in the history of the game but we have to bring in a rule change because you're too good. Next year can you please be a little bit shitter then everyone else and give them a chance like a good little boy.
It would be a better rule of the GAA put a stop to Dublin's financial doping which allows their players to be professionals in all but name. Why does every other county player have to get up for work on a Monday while the Dublin squad can head to Coppers knowing they can have the week of of they want? That and never having to play an away championship game in over 5 years is a f**king joke.
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
That's a seperate issue. I wouldn't worry so much about it anyway. Splitting Dublin along the banks of the Liffey is not just a suggestion anymore it's an inevitability. It's now a 100% certainty all that's to ponder on it is the timing.
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
Figures show the most money spent on a county team is Mayo ::)
Quote from: trileacman on October 01, 2017, 10:10:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
That's a seperate issue. I wouldn't worry so much about it anyway. Splitting Dublin along the banks of the Liffey is not just a suggestion anymore it's an inevitability. It's now a 100% certainty all that's to ponder on it is the timing.
There's no point splitting Dublin without addressing the financial side of things. It matters a lot more than halving Dublin's pick.
Quote from: longballin on October 01, 2017, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
Figures show the most money spent on a county team is Mayo ::)
What figures are these?
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 01, 2017, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
Figures show the most money spent on a county team is Mayo ::)
What figures are these?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/mayo-the-big-spenders-this-graph-breaks-down-each-countys-costs-in-2016-35458592.html
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 01, 2017, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
Figures show the most money spent on a county team is Mayo ::)
What figures are these?
The ones that think all expenses are declared and the ones that treat money spent on petrol getting lads half way around the country for training exactly the same as money spent on coaching and facilities.
Our CB is renting out the Na Fianna clubhouse two nights a week over the winter for all our Dublin lads, itself probably only half the panel. Problems and expenses no Dublin side have to bother with.
Quote from: under the bar on October 01, 2017, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on October 01, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Maybe the next rule change will be to exclude Dublin from the championship on the strength of them being far too good for the opposition.
The kick-out change should be called the Cluxton rule.
Sorry Stephen you've been the best goalkeeper in the history of the game but we have to bring in a rule change because you're too good. Next year can you please be a little bit shitter then everyone else and give them a chance like a good little boy.
It would be a better rule of the GAA put a stop to Dublin's financial doping which allows their players to be professionals in all but name. Why does every other county player have to get up for work on a Monday while the Dublin squad can head to Coppers knowing they can have the week of of they want? That and never having to play an away championship game in over 5 years is a f**king joke.
What a load of utter shite....... back it up with hard facts..... I'll throw you Cluxton, Flynn, Fenton, fitzsimons, O'Sullivan, McMahon, Cooper, bastick, mcauley, Mccaffrey, Callaghan, Andrews, Connolly as names who disprove your assertions about a week off
Quote from: Orchard park on October 01, 2017, 10:50:43 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 01, 2017, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on October 01, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Maybe the next rule change will be to exclude Dublin from the championship on the strength of them being far too good for the opposition.
The kick-out change should be called the Cluxton rule.
Sorry Stephen you've been the best goalkeeper in the history of the game but we have to bring in a rule change because you're too good. Next year can you please be a little bit shitter then everyone else and give them a chance like a good little boy.
It would be a better rule of the GAA put a stop to Dublin's financial doping which allows their players to be professionals in all but name. Why does every other county player have to get up for work on a Monday while the Dublin squad can head to Coppers knowing they can have the week of of they want? That and never having to play an away championship game in over 5 years is a f**king joke.
What a load of utter shite....... back it up with hard facts..... I'll throw you Cluxton, Flynn, Fenton, fitzsimons, O'Sullivan, McMahon, Cooper, bastick, mcauley, Mccaffrey, Callaghan, Andrews, Connolly as names who disprove your assertions about a week off
It's excuses from counties who should be doing much better. Man up!
The only way to beat Dublin and Cluxton is to change the rules, sounds like cheating to me. Its also cowardly.
I wonder did the delegates discuss with their county keepers regarding this.
Good people are trying to modernise the game, the dinosaurs in Croke Park want to bring it back to the 70s.
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
Some serious financial doping being done in Connaught, it a disgrace, wont some think of Leitrim please.
Mayo 1,632,448 compared to Leitrims 378,101. EUR
Crazy stuff.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 01, 2017, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on October 01, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Maybe the next rule change will be to exclude Dublin from the championship on the strength of them being far too good for the opposition.
The kick-out change should be called the Cluxton rule.
Sorry Stephen you've been the best goalkeeper in the history of the game but we have to bring in a rule change because you're too good. Next year can you please be a little bit shitter then everyone else and give them a chance like a good little boy.
Those sideways kick outs don't require any skill and are an eyesore. Picking out a man in space 25-50 yards away is a great skill and nobody is better at it than Cluxton. This is a good rule change. We're losing nothing and gaining more contested kick outs.
Im usually not for rule changes, but i have to agree here.
I dont really see much of a down side to this one.If anything it will encourage teams to push up and contest kickouts.
I also dont see how it has really anything to do with cluxton, he is just one keeper of many who happens to use the really short kickout from time to time.
All this does is eliminate the sideways/ really short ones.
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on October 02, 2017, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 01, 2017, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on October 01, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Maybe the next rule change will be to exclude Dublin from the championship on the strength of them being far too good for the opposition.
The kick-out change should be called the Cluxton rule.
Sorry Stephen you've been the best goalkeeper in the history of the game but we have to bring in a rule change because you're too good. Next year can you please be a little bit shitter then everyone else and give them a chance like a good little boy.
Those sideways kick outs don't require any skill and are an eyesore. Picking out a man in space 25-50 yards away is a great skill and nobody is better at it than Cluxton. This is a good rule change. We're losing nothing and gaining more contested kick outs.
Im usually not for rule changes, but i have to agree here.
I dont really see much of a down side to this one.If anything it will encourage teams to push up and contest kickouts.
I also dont see how it has really anything to do with cluxton, he is just one keeper of many who happens to use the really short kickout from time to time.
All this does is eliminate the sideways/ really short ones.
Should hopefully eliminate kick outs going out for a 45
Quote from: INDIANA on October 01, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Maybe the next rule change will be to exclude Dublin from the championship on the strength of them being far too good for the opposition.
The kick-out change should be called the Cluxton rule.
Sorry Stephen you've been the best goalkeeper in the history of the game but we have to bring in a rule change because you're too good. Next year can you please be a little bit shitter then everyone else and give them a chance like a good little boy.
I don't think this goes against Cluxton. I don't remember too many of his kickouts being lateral. The Cork Mayo game was the one where it was most obvious. I don't think this is a bad rule.
i think they should bring in a rule that for every rule change another cannot be made for at least 5 years.
Quote from: TheGreatest on October 02, 2017, 09:17:09 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
Some serious financial doping being done in Connaught, it a disgrace, wont some think of Leitrim please.
Mayo 1,632,448 compared to Leitrims 378,101. EUR
Crazy stuff.
Didn't get the reaction you wanted I see. Might be time to try a new account again.
Quote from: general_lee on October 02, 2017, 04:31:38 PM
i think they should bring in a rule that for every rule change another cannot be made for at least 5 years.
I'd have been in favour of that once but "change for change sake" is now the populist cry and there's no point in swimming against the tide of armchair experts. I'd propose that rules changes should be mandatory every 12 months rising to every 6 months after 3 years. Maybe if we bastardise the game with soccer/Afl/rugby rules often enough people will eventually be forced to accept the game for what it is instead of trying to create some Corinthian utopia of sporting excellence in a game between Carlow and Leitrim.
I'm deadly serious about that. People are now so convinced with "change" and progress" that the only way to tackle it is to go far beyond they're own suggestions in a race to the bottom. Hence I'm advocating lowering the voting age to anyone fit to mark a legible x on a ballot paper.
Not a rule change as such, but what do people think about the extra extra-time periods and the prospect of free-taking to decide championship games?
I'm pretty sure these were passed at congress but there's been no chat on here about them.
Quote from: Esmarelda on October 02, 2017, 05:17:42 PM
Not a rule change as such, but what do people think about the extra extra-time periods and the prospect of free-taking to decide championship games?
I'm pretty sure these were passed at congress but there's been no chat on here about them.
The extra periods of extra time probably no harm but lose a championship game maybe even AI with free taking will be awful.
Quote from: TheGreatest on October 02, 2017, 09:17:09 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
Some serious financial doping being done in Connaught, it a disgrace, wont some think of Leitrim please.
Mayo 1,632,448 compared to Leitrims 378,101. EUR
Crazy stuff.
Look, I know you're not the sharpest tool in the box and with the big step up into secondary school, things cant be easy for you but surely to god even you can figure out why a team who played in the championship over 3 months longer then the other may spend more money.
And that's simplifying it for you. I wouldn't even dare ask you to consider other expenses like underage team, players TRAVELLING to training, stays in Dublin for matches in croke park, etc etc.
Instead of all this money been pumped into Dublin GAA I think consideration should be put into spending a few more bob on the education system in the capital.
Quote from: criostlinn on October 02, 2017, 05:45:17 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on October 02, 2017, 09:17:09 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Financial Doping is the BIG Issue! F***ing S**tloads of money into one county and expecting all the rest to keep up with volunteers makes the whole thing farcical. Not to mention the HOME game farce we have to put up with every year.
Dublin are treated like royalty.
Some serious financial doping being done in Connaught, it a disgrace, wont some think of Leitrim please.
Mayo 1,632,448 compared to Leitrims 378,101. EUR
Crazy stuff.
Look, I know you're not the sharpest tool in the box and with the big step up into secondary school, things cant be easy for you but surely to god even you can figure out why a team who played in the championship over 3 months longer then the other may spend more money.
And that's simplifying it for you. I wouldn't even dare ask you to consider other expenses like underage team, players TRAVELLING to training, stays in Dublin for matches in croke park, etc etc.
Instead of all this money been pumped into Dublin GAA I think consideration should be put into spending a few more bob on the education system in the capital.
We Dubs may not match up to the academic excellence of the average Mayo man -
but we are All Ireland champions :P
I'd outlaw the 2 handed push in goals.
There is little skill involved and they look ugly. Some of them are borderline throws.
A new rule should insist that only one hand makes contact with the ball with a clean striking action.
And do away with the skilless shite of throwing the ball over the bar.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 03, 2017, 06:37:23 PM
And do away with the skilless shite of throwing the ball over the bar.
Kev tried a fairly ambitious throw on Sunday..