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Title: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: bennydorano on August 02, 2017, 12:20:58 AM
On return from holidays I went hard at it on the bike for a week to try and shift the holiday weight. One day I took 3 cramps simultaneously, 1 in my left hammy, 1 on the same leg but at the side of my thigh and another side of the thigh cramp on the other leg. I've never experienced anything like it in my life, I was on the verge of passing out. The hammy hasn't been the same since and is twitching like mad. Could a bad cramp do real damage? Google says no. Can still cycle but doubt I'm helping matters.
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: Puckoon on August 02, 2017, 12:36:04 AM
Cramp, or pain? Serious overuse of the muscle can cause Rhabdomyolysis which is a muscle tissue break down where some of the degredation protein can be released into the blood stream. Google "spin class and sore legs"... really common in spin class folks, cross fit folks, weightlifters and runners.

You see any brown in the urine - go to the doctor.

Go easy on the bike FFS, you'll get run over by a board member.

EDIT: Just re-reading your post and your comment that you'd never experienced anything like it in your life, as well as being on the verge of passing out just re-enforces this in my opinion as something to think about. Sounds like a couple of cases I've heard and read about this year.
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: bennydorano on August 02, 2017, 12:41:21 AM
No pain as such (or dodgy urine), just constant twitching in the hammy, feels like it could go into spasm again at any minute.

I'm a gentleman cyclist btw.
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: Ball Hopper on August 02, 2017, 01:32:04 AM
Electrolyte imbalance possibly?*  Salt deficiency?*

*don't take medical advice from internet gaaheads
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: JimStynes on August 02, 2017, 07:19:21 AM
Pushing too hard to break red lights could be your problem. Bloody cyclists!
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 02, 2017, 07:39:27 AM
Are there no physios or doctors in Armagh? Please don't resort to advice from us eejits on the Board except for advice to seek proper medical help. You are at an age where you can't afford to take chances with your health, what used to be a minor injury out easily overcame  can now lead to complications.
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: maddog on August 02, 2017, 08:19:06 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 02, 2017, 12:20:58 AM
On return from holidays I went hard at it on the bike for a week to try and shift the holiday weight. One day I took 3 cramps simultaneously, 1 in my left hammy, 1 on the same leg but at the side of my thigh and another side of the thigh cramp on the other leg. I've never experienced anything like it in my life, I was on the verge of passing out. The hammy hasn't been the same since and is twitching like mad. Could a bad cramp do real damage? Google says no. Can still cycle but doubt I'm helping matters.

What are you drinking while on the bike and how much over how many hours ?

Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: MoChara on August 02, 2017, 08:26:03 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 02, 2017, 01:32:04 AM
Electrolyte imbalance possibly?*  Salt deficiency?*

*don't take medical advice from internet gaaheads

Definitely what it sounds like to me, Sodium and Magnesium deficiency will cause everything you're said, but as the other says if you're worried about it get it looked at.
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: punt kick on August 02, 2017, 08:29:22 AM
Quote from: maddog on August 02, 2017, 08:19:06 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 02, 2017, 12:20:58 AM
On return from holidays I went hard at it on the bike for a week to try and shift the holiday weight. One day I took 3 cramps simultaneously, 1 in my left hammy, 1 on the same leg but at the side of my thigh and another side of the thigh cramp on the other leg. I've never experienced anything like it in my life, I was on the verge of passing out. The hammy hasn't been the same since and is twitching like mad. Could a bad cramp do real damage? Google says no. Can still cycle but doubt I'm helping matters.

What are you drinking while on the bike and how much over how many hours ?

When I saw him he was just ditching the second half bottle of bow over the hedge on the old moy road!
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: maddog on August 02, 2017, 09:44:18 AM
Quote from: MoChara on August 02, 2017, 08:26:03 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 02, 2017, 01:32:04 AM
Electrolyte imbalance possibly?*  Salt deficiency?*

*don't take medical advice from internet gaaheads

Definitely what it sounds like to me, Sodium and Magnesium deficiency will cause everything you're said, but as the other says if you're worried about it get it looked at.

If you have a bottle of diluting blackcurrant drink and put a twist of rock salt into the top of it it works wonders. Doesnt taste salty and keeps the cramps away.
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: screenexile on August 02, 2017, 10:01:22 AM
Not to proclaim to be an expert but a while ago I got a bad cramp in the calf and it was sore for a few days after.

Went out to training a couple of days later and tore it completely so I'd definitely get to a physio as soon as you can so you don't do any more damage!
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: Keyser soze on August 02, 2017, 10:16:28 AM
Sounds like u might have Lycracarblocitis, which apparently has been affecting lots of cyclists this summer.

Best thing is to get off the bike for a while. And stay off it.

Some people would even recommend lying down in the middle of a busy trunk road at rush hour to get the comeuppance you so richly deserve.

Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 02, 2017, 10:16:50 AM
Whilst I wish you no harm, if it's another cyclist off the road for a while, I'll take it  ;D. Get well soon!

And to reiterate the point of others, if you are worried see a physio or GP.
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 02, 2017, 10:24:03 AM
f**k sake man..there's bugger all wrong with you...get back on the bike ye big Jessie and burn through it...you'll get nowhere in the world by giving into it....ride through the pain!!!!

Alternatively you could go to the Physio!!!
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: bennydorano on August 02, 2017, 11:09:05 AM
I had plenty of those high 5 tablets in my bottles, so I was thinking it wasn't a hydration issue, but I did have a lot of miles in the legs b4 this particular spin and it wasn't a soft one either. If it continues I'll go for a rub and see.

Cheers
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 02, 2017, 11:51:50 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 02, 2017, 11:09:05 AM
I had plenty of those high 5 tablets in my bottles, so I was thinking it wasn't a hydration issue, but I did have a lot of miles in the legs b4 this particular spin and it wasn't a soft one either. If it continues I'll go for a rub and see.

Cheers
That helps almost every ailment  :P
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: dclane on August 02, 2017, 12:39:57 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on August 02, 2017, 12:36:04 AM


Go easy on the bike FFS, you'll get run over by a board member.


Go on and tell us again how anyone who has ever wore white boots is now a county footballer...
I could do with a good laugh.
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: johnneycool on August 02, 2017, 02:01:35 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 02, 2017, 11:09:05 AM
I had plenty of those high 5 tablets in my bottles, so I was thinking it wasn't a hydration issue, but I did have a lot of miles in the legs b4 this particular spin and it wasn't a soft one either. If it continues I'll go for a rub and see.

Cheers

I'm an expert in this field;

Your problem is Arrhythmogenic Genetic Entropiosy.

Hang up the Cleats and padded Lycra shorts before you get run over.


Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: J70 on August 02, 2017, 02:37:19 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on August 02, 2017, 12:36:04 AM
Cramp, or pain? Serious overuse of the muscle can cause Rhabdomyolysis which is a muscle tissue break down where some of the degredation protein can be released into the blood stream. Google "spin class and sore legs"... really common in spin class folks, cross fit folks, weightlifters and runners.

You see any brown in the urine - go to the doctor.

Go easy on the bike FFS, you'll get run over by a board member.

EDIT: Just re-reading your post and your comment that you'd never experienced anything like it in your life, as well as being on the verge of passing out just re-enforces this in my opinion as something to think about. Sounds like a couple of cases I've heard and read about this year.

NY Times did a piece recently on the rhabdomylosis and spin classes.

I'd never heard of it.
Title: Re: Can cramps cause damage?
Post by: J70 on August 02, 2017, 02:41:16 PM
NY Times article

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/well/move/as-workouts-intensify-a-harmful-side-effect-grows-more-common.html (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/well/move/as-workouts-intensify-a-harmful-side-effect-grows-more-common.html)