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Title: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: goldenyears on November 20, 2006, 03:03:02 PM
folks, i am looking for a link to a list of every ulster champ county game since 1980, detailing final scores, scorers, and teams. Searched google but cant get close to what i am looking for...

can anyone help? thanx in advance,...
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: thewobbler on November 20, 2006, 03:09:03 PM
Good luck to you with that GY. You'll need it.

You can get everything from 2000 onwards easily on the hoganstand http://www.hoganstand.com/general/results/index.aspx and with a bit of care you'll get reports on every game from 1997 from the Examiner http://www.examiner.ie or the Indo http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/.

Once you get past that though, you'll probably need to do a Jerome Quinn and spend a whole lot of time looking at microfilm in Belfast Library.
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: Over the Bar on November 20, 2006, 03:46:04 PM
In my attic I must have over 150 programmes, most of which are Ulster Championship games.  I will be up there in Feb fishing out my ski gear.  If you have specific games that you are stuck on I'll see what I can do for you.   In fairness tho most are 1985/1986 onwards.
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: dubnut on November 20, 2006, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on November 20, 2006, 03:46:04 PM
I will be up there in Feb fishing out my ski gear

Show off!  ;)
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: goldenyears on November 20, 2006, 04:40:16 PM
thanks lads, but i had hoped it was online somewhere! surely the ulster council must have that info available or didnt jerome do something like this a cpl of years back?
Title: Results 1980s no scorers
Post by: dec on November 20, 2006, 04:46:56 PM
1989         Monaghan    0-8        0-5        Antrim   Monaghan
1989         Donegal     3-12       0-14        Cavan    Donegal
1989         Derry       4-15       1-7     Fermanagh      Derry
1989         Tyrone      1-11       2-7        Armagh     Tyrone
1989         Down        1-14       0-9      Monaghan       Down
1989  Semi   Donegal     2-8        1-9         Derry    Donegal
1989  Semi   Tyrone      1-12       1-7          Down     Tyrone
1989  Final  Tyrone      0-11       0-11      Donegal     *DRAW*
1989  Final  Tyrone      2-13       0-7       Donegal     Tyrone
1988         Armagh      2-12       1-13    Fermanagh     Armagh
1988         Monaghan    0-16       0-14        Cavan   Monaghan
1988         Down        1-11       0-7         Derry       Down
1988         Tyrone      3-13       2-4        Antrim     Tyrone
1988         Armagh      2-10       0-8       Donegal     Armagh
1988  Semi   Monaghan    1-11       0-9          Down   Monaghan
1988  Semi   Tyrone      0-15       1-8        Armagh     Tyrone
1988  Final  Monaghan    1-10       0-11       Tyrone   Monaghan
1987         Armagh      2-9        0-9     Fermanagh     Armagh
1987  Quart  Cavan       0-12       0-10     Monaghan      Cavan
1987  Quart  Derry       1-12       2-7          Down      Derry
1987  Quart  Tyrone      0-9        0-9        Antrim     *DRAW*
1987  Quart  Armagh      1-8        0-6       Donegal     Armagh
1987  Quart  Tyrone      2-6        2-5        Antrim     Tyrone
1987  Semi   Cavan       1-10       2-7         Derry     *DRAW*
1987  Semi   Armagh      5-9        1-9        Tyrone     Armagh
1987  Semi   Derry       2-11       2-8         Cavan      Derry
1987  Final  Derry       0-11       0-9        Armagh      Derry
1986         Down        2-8        1-10      Donegal       Down
1986         Cavan       1-8        0-7        Antrim      Cavan
1986         Tyrone      2-6        1-7         Derry     Tyrone
1986         Armagh      1-11       0-7     Fermanagh     Armagh
1986         Down        1-10       0-13     Monaghan     *DRAW*
1986  Semi   Tyrone      2-16       1-12        Cavan     Tyrone
1986         Down        2-11       0-11     Monaghan       Down
1986  Semi   Down        3-7        0-12       Armagh       Down
1986  Final  Tyrone      1-11       0-10         Down     Tyrone
1985         Donegal     2-12       2-8          Down    Donegal
1985         Cavan       0-9        0-5        Antrim      Cavan
1985         Derry       1-9        0-9        Tyrone      Derry
1985         Armagh      2-13       0-5     Fermanagh     Armagh
1985         Monaghan    1-14       0-7       Donegal   Monaghan
1985  Semi   Derry       0-11       0-7         Cavan      Derry
1985  Semi   Armagh      0-10       0-10     Monaghan     *DRAW*
1985  Semi   Monaghan    1-11       2-7        Armagh   Monaghan
1985  Final  Monaghan    2-9        0-8         Derry   Monaghan
1984         Down        3-6        0-8     Fermanagh       Down
1984         Monaghan    2-17       1-6        Antrim   Monaghan
1984         Derry       1-13       0-14        Cavan      Derry
1984         Armagh      1-10       0-12      Donegal     Armagh
1984         Tyrone      1-13       3-4         Derry     Tyrone
1984  Semi   Armagh      2-8        0-9      Monaghan     Armagh
1984  Semi   Tyrone      0-10       0-5          Down     Tyrone
1984  Final  Tyrone      0-15       1-7        Armagh     Tyrone
1983         Cavan       1-12       0-11        Derry      Cavan
1983         Fermanagh   0-10       0-8          Down  Fermanagh
1983         Monaghan    2-18       0-4        Antrim   Monaghan
1983         Donegal     1-10       0-7        Armagh    Donegal
1983         Cavan       0-11       0-10       Tyrone      Cavan
1983  Semi   Donegal     1-14       1-9      Monaghan    Donegal
1983  Semi   Cavan       2-12       1-7     Fermanagh      Cavan
1983  Final  Donegal     1-14       1-11        Cavan    Donegal
1982         Tyrone      1-9        0-9      Monaghan     Tyrone
1982         Antrim      1-7        0-8         Cavan     Antrim
1982         Armagh      1-11       0-13      Donegal     Armagh
1982         Fermanagh   1-9        1-8         Derry  Fermanagh
1982         Tyrone      1-12       0-11         Down     Tyrone
1982  Semi   Armagh      1-20       1-6        Antrim     Armagh
1982  Semi   Fermanagh   1-8        0-10       Tyrone  Fermanagh
1982  Final  Armagh      0-10       1-4     Fermanagh     Armagh
1981         Monaghan    2-9        0-6        Tyrone   Monaghan
1981         Antrim      2-13       2-12        Cavan     Antrim
1981         Armagh      2-15       0-13      Donegal     Armagh
1981         Derry       0-12       0-10    Fermanagh      Derry
1981         Monaghan    0-10       0-10         Down     *DRAW*
1981  Semi   Armagh      4-7        1-3        Antrim     Armagh
1981         Down        3-4        1-9      Monaghan       Down
1981  Semi   Down        0-12       0-9         Derry       Down
1981  Final  Down        3-12       1-10       Armagh       Down
1980         Tyrone      1-8        1-7        Antrim     Tyrone
1980         Monaghan    0-13       1-4          Down   Monaghan
1980         Armagh      3-8        1-4     Fermanagh     Armagh
1980         Cavan       2-9        2-7         Derry      Cavan
1980         Tyrone      1-17       0-9       Donegal     Tyrone
1980  Semi   Armagh      0-12       0-5      Monaghan     Armagh
1980  Semi   Tyrone      2-12       1-9         Cavan     Tyrone
1980  Final  Armagh      4-10       4-7        Tyrone     Armagh
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: Lecale2 on November 20, 2006, 04:48:02 PM
http://www.gaelicgazette.com/history.htm

Try here GY.
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: Mike Sheehy on November 20, 2006, 07:02:21 PM
Quotefolks, i am looking for a link to a list of every ulster champ county game since 1980,

Try the Guantanamo website and look under "Torture methods - video archive". I'm sure they'll have all the games there.
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: thewobbler on November 20, 2006, 08:59:28 PM
Mike Sheehy - it's now been some two years since you posted a message on the gaaboard that wasn't a (pointless) attack on Ulster football. Once upon a time it might have been called for. Once upon a time it might have been relevant. Perhaps once upon a time it might even have been funny.

But these days, none of those things apply, so please take your hopeless crusade and f**k off back to the hole you appeared from.

Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: dodo on November 20, 2006, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on November 20, 2006, 10:49:43 PM
as opposed to you i.e never been relevant or funny on anything.

So f**k off yourself you ignorant Down p***k.

Very articulate. Classy.
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: Fuzzman on November 21, 2006, 11:58:11 AM
It's hard to believe its 25 years since Fermanagh were in an Ulster final. Tyrone were the most successful team in Ulster in the 80's with Monaghan and Armagh next.
                                                                        Winners
1989  Final  Tyrone      2-13       0-7       Donegal     Tyrone
1988  Final  Monaghan  1-10       0-11      Tyrone     Monaghan
1987  Final  Derry         0-11       0-9        Armagh    Derry
1986  Final  Tyrone      1-11       0-10         Down    Tyrone
1985  Final  Monaghan   2-9        0-8         Derry      Monaghan
1984  Final  Tyrone      0-15       1-7        Armagh    Tyrone
1983  Final  Donegal     1-14       1-11        Cavan     Donegal
1982  Final  Armagh      0-10       1-4     Fermanagh  Armagh
1981  Final  Down        3-12       1-10       Armagh    Down
1980  Final  Armagh      4-10       4-7        Tyrone     Armagh

Tyrone              3 titles 5 finals
Monaghan          2 titles 2 finals
Armagh             2 titles 5 finals
Derry                1 title  2 finals
Donegal            1 title  2 finals
Down               1 title  2 finals
Fermanagh        0 titles 1 final
Cavan               0 titles 1 final

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

1990   Donegal 0-15 Armagh 0-14
1991   Down 1-15 Donegal 0-10
1992   Donegal 0-14 Derry 1-9
1993   Derry 0-8 Donegal 0-6
1994   Down 1-17 Tyrone 1-11
1995   Tyrone 2-13 Cavan 0-10
1996   Tyrone 1-9 Down 0-9
1997   Cavan 1-14 Derry 0-16
1998   Derry 1-7 Donegal 0-8
1999   Armagh 3-12 Down 0-10

Donegal 2 from 5
Down     2 from 4
Derry     2 from 4
Tyrone   2 from 3
Cavan    1 from 2
Armagh 1 from 2

The 90's continued the trend of no team really dominating the Ulster title although Donegal made it through to 5 finals. Tyrone were the first team in years to win back to back titles in 95 & 96.

Armagh surprisingly only won one title in the 90's but that was in 1999 when they would go on to dominate Ulster with winning 6 titles within 8 years with Tyrone taking the other 2. Donegal have made it to three finals but have yet to beat Armagh in the 00's.

2001 saw the start of the qualifiers with Fermanagh making huge progress via this path by getting to a semi final in 2004 defeating Armagh in the quarter final.


2000   Derry 1-11 to 1-12 Armagh
2001   Tyrone 1-13 Cavan 1-11
2002   Donegal 1-10 Armagh 1-14
2003   Tyrone 0-23  Down 1-5
2004   Armagh beat Donegal
2005   Armagh & the Ref beat Tyrone
2006   Armagh beat Donegal

Armagh 5 from 5
Tyrone  2 from 2
Donegal 0 from 3
Derry     0 from 1
Cavan    0 from 1
Down    0 from 1

Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: FermPundit on November 21, 2006, 12:55:16 PM
It really is hard to believe that we haven't reached an Ulster final in 27 years. It is due to a number of factors e.g small playing numbers and the strength of individual counties such as Donegal, Derry, Down, Tyrone during this period. Hopefully 2007 will be our year. I'm always optimistic about the future  8)
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: full back on November 21, 2006, 01:10:03 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on November 21, 2006, 12:55:16 PM
It really is hard to believe that we haven't reached an Ulster final in 27 years. It is due to a number of factors e.g small playing numbers and the strength of individual counties such as Donegal, Derry, Down, Tyrone during this period. Hopefully 2007 will be our year. I'm always optimistic about the future  8)

Maybe Armagh as well there ferm!
Title: Re: full back
Post by: FermPundit on November 21, 2006, 01:37:36 PM
Opps, did I also forget to mention Armagh?? I bascially should have mentioned all Ulster counties becasue I have painful memories of heavy defeats from nearly all of them. To be honest, Ulster has been and continues to be the most difficult province to win. You beat one big county and then theres anyone ready to dash the dreams of our first Ulster title.  Looking at the draw we might just need a bit of lady luck in 2007  ;D
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: rebel yell on November 21, 2006, 04:48:55 PM
Golden Years,
I have a small almanac here published in 1999 charting every Ulster football championship result between 1989 and 1998. Done by Damian Dowds and Donal Campbell. Not the scorers mind, but if you still need that info I can post it up. Just don't have the time right now to list them all off, but they're here for ya. I can easily get the details from 2000-2006 if required as well.
Regards,
Rebel Yell
Title: Ulster Stats
Post by: Fuzzman on November 21, 2006, 04:51:39 PM
Since 1980 (27 years ago)...

Armagh have won Ulster 8 times from 12 finals
Tyrone have won Ulster 7 times from 10 finals
Donegal have been to 10 finals but only won 3
Down have only won 3 titles from 7 finals
Derry have also only one 3 ulster titles from 7 finals

Down and Tyrone have won the AI twice in that period
Whereas Donegal, Derry and Armagh have only won it once.

I'm surprised Donegal have made it to so many finals and they must be fed up meeting Derry and Armagh and rarely beating them.
Title: All Championship results
Post by: dec on November 21, 2006, 05:06:03 PM
All championship results up to 2000 (downloaded from gaalore.com many years ago)

The file is named gaachampionship.doc but it is actually a zip file.

The only allowed file types are (Allowed file types: txt, doc, pdf, jpg, gif, mpg, png)

If you rename the file to gaachampionship.zip you should be able to extract the following files.

allireland_football.txt
allireland_hurling.txt
connaght_football.txt
connaght_hurling.txt
leinster_football.txt
leinster_hurling.txt
munster_football.txt
munster_hurling.txt
ulster_football.txt
ulster_hurling.txt

The format is

1989  Semi   Tyrone      1-12       1-7          Down     Tyrone
1989  Final  Tyrone      0-11       0-11      Donegal     *DRAW*


where the last column is the winner or *DRAW*
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: goldenyears on November 21, 2006, 05:19:31 PM
much appreciated lads, really surpassed expectations on this. tho i am particularly interested in the down teams for each of those games from 90 onwards. I have picked up the 2000 on but 90-2000 still struggling
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: ONeill on June 13, 2007, 10:06:12 AM
1983 - the last time an Ulster final has not involved a sick-county team. Donegal v Monaghan to buck the trend.
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: armaghniac on June 13, 2007, 10:35:20 AM
QuoteDonegal have made it to three finals but have yet to beat Armagh in the 00's.

Did they give the square ball in the end then?

Donegal are quite likely to get the Anglo-Celt this year, which would reflect their status in the 00's.
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: Donagh on June 13, 2007, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: goldenyears on November 20, 2006, 03:03:02 PM
folks, i am looking for a link to a list of every ulster champ county game since 1980, detailing final scores, scorers, and teams. Searched google but cant get close to what i am looking for...

can anyone help? thanx in advance,...

Did Jerome Quinn not compile all of these somewhere?
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: Uladh on June 13, 2007, 10:52:59 AM

Ma Granda has a set of books that records all of the championship results in ireland (including junior) every weekend sinces the 50s.
Title: Re: history of ulster championship - game by game - HELP
Post by: Big Bob on June 13, 2007, 10:57:48 AM
I know where you can find the history of every football championship game................ The rubbish bin!!!1 Thats where everything to do with football deserves to be put.