In the immortal words of The Stone Roses 'This is the one, I've waited for'. Monaghan obviously looking to continue where they left off and Cavan obviously looking to get points on the board before the break.. I'm not sure what the injury front is in Cavan, Monaghan shouldn't be too bad, probably a few sore bodies after the Mayo game as it was a physical affair.. Cavan didn't shrink against the Dubs in that regards so this will no doubt be an up close and personal affair..
Who has the pleasure of reffing this gem ?? !!
I have a funny feeling it wont be 15 v 15 at the end. Monaghan were seriously aggressive against Mayo and look to have totally bullied them. Cavan were not aggressive enough against the dubs. I think Cavan need a number of changes to the team that lost to Dublin. Galligan has to start in goals for a start. I would go with the same full back line except I'd drop Rory Dunne who looked way off the pace. I'd have Corr midfield with Clarke for a bit of steel and we can only hope he doesnt thump anyone and get sent off as he is prone to do. Not much else we can do with the forwards as we dont really have any! Big question is who gets to mark McManus - Id put Faulkner on him personally.
Cavan desperately need to get something out of this game as they have got a very unlucky set of fixtures with only 3 home games (2 against Dublin and Kerry). If they are to stay up it will need to be done on the road. Doubt there will be much in this at the end and given that Cavan have been on the wrong side of the narrowest defeats against Monaghan in the last few years I am hoping we get that bit of a break we need to win it. Should be a good crowd and good craic anyway.
There'll be some amount of belly-tickling for this one.
There'll be some money spent at this one.
When is the last time Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal were all in Div 1?
All three have improved a lot the last few years and seemed to have left the Armaghs, Derrys and Downs in their wake.
The O'Classico in Division 1, you can't beat it!
Should be a tight affair, they usually are regardless of form coming into the game. Winning in Mayo will have given our lads a boost but I don't think the defeat to the Dubs will have the Cavan heads down too much. Probably a must win for both teams - Like I said last week, getting points in Mayo was a big boost but it's games like this that will determine what way our league will go.
A local row. Gods make their own importance
There could be some fun and games at this one!
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on February 07, 2017, 09:09:41 AM
In the immortal words of The Stone Roses 'This is the one, I've waited for'. Monaghan obviously looking to continue where they left off and Cavan obviously looking to get points on the board before the break.. I'm not sure what the injury front is in Cavan, Monaghan shouldn't be too bad, probably a few sore bodies after the Mayo game as it was a physical affair.. Cavan didn't shrink against the Dubs in that regards so this will no doubt be an up close and personal affair..
Mackey Buchannan and Niall Murray injured while there's questions marks over Galligan McEnroe and Gearoid
13-12 , and thats just whats left on the pitch at the end
Northern Sound just switch between the two commentary teams, for partiality purposes.
Why is it at Blaney and not Clones?
Seems like a daft call not having it in clones given that this will probably draw the biggest crowd to a Monaghan home game in this years league.
Mattie would want to get his shit together for this one. It's not the time for throwing in lads with no intercounty experience. It's not a time for talking about how great the Cavan lads are, how great the Monaghan lads are, how great the tea ladies are and how great it is to be in Division 1.
Hard to know who is the best option to pick up McManus, Killian Clarke has seemingly forgot how to tackle, Gunner doesn't have the pace but could do a hatchet job I suppose, Faulkner might be the best option.
Quote from: Westside on February 07, 2017, 08:37:16 PM
Mattie would want to get his shit together for this one. It's not the time for throwing in lads with no intercounty experience. It's not a time for talking about how great the Cavan lads are, how great the Monaghan lads are, how great the tea ladies are and how great it is to be in Division 1.
Hard to know who is the best option to pick up McManus, Killian Clarke has seemingly forgot how to tackle, Gunner doesn't have the pace but could do a hatchet job I suppose, Faulkner might be the best option.
Probably Faulkner but I liked Fergal Reillys aggression against Dublin.
Quote from: Westside on February 07, 2017, 08:37:16 PM
Mattie would want to get his shit together for this one. It's not the time for throwing in lads with no intercounty experience. It's not a time for talking about how great the Cavan lads are, how great the Monaghan lads are, how great the tea ladies are and how great it is to be in Division 1.
Hard to know who is the best option to pick up McManus, Killian Clarke has seemingly forgot how to tackle, Gunner doesn't have the pace but could do a hatchet job I suppose, Faulkner might be the best option.
You need pace nowadays to do a proper hatchet job.
The whole world's gone mad.
Quote from: Itchy on February 07, 2017, 07:58:54 PM
Seems like a daft call not having it in clones given that this will probably draw the biggest crowd to a Monaghan home game in this years league.
Believe it or not Dublin are a bigger draw than Cavan ;D
Some Cavan people do have an inflated opinion of their importance in the scheme of things.
Quote from: Main Street on February 07, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
Some Cavan people do have an inflated opinion of their importance in the scheme of things.
Chatting to a fella from Blaney and he can't believe it's there. But he did say in past for a Tyrone game was moved in lead up to Clones
Quote from: Main Street on February 07, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
Some Cavan people do have an inflated opinion of their importance in the scheme of things.
It must be the 5 all Irelands
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2017, 08:18:46 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 07, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
Some Cavan people do have an inflated opinion of their importance in the scheme of things.
It must be the 5 all Irelands
Lovely !!
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 08, 2017, 07:48:13 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 07, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
Some Cavan people do have an inflated opinion of their importance in the scheme of things.
Chatting to a fella from Blaney and he can't believe it's there. But he did say in past for a Tyrone game was moved in lead up to Clones
We played Tyrone in Inniskeen in 2010 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_National_Football_League_(Ireland) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_National_Football_League_(Ireland))). We beat them by a point. We just about stayed up, as a result of our head to head result with Derry, who went down with Tyrone. I remember people at the time questioning the venue... It was an obvious tactic to have the game there i.e. to take Tyrone out of their comfort zone that was Clones.
Similarly, Blayney will be less familiar to Cavan than Clones, and based on the above this may count..
I'm originally from Clones BTW and obviously biased towards it as a home venue, but I'm not against moving league games out of there the odd time.
Who holds the bragging rights in this head-to-head over the last 5 years?
Quote from: Jinxy on February 08, 2017, 11:13:56 AM
Who holds the bragging rights in this head-to-head over the last 5 years?
Monaghan have won the Championship games that matter. Think Cavan record in league and McKenna cup meetings is decent though.
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2017, 08:18:46 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 07, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
Some Cavan people do have an inflated opinion of their importance in the scheme of things.
It must be the 5 all Irelands
Is there anyone alive in Monaghan who can remember that?
Possibly there is a 30 second b&W youtube clip somewhere of men in caps running after a ball in droves, through a fog of cigarette smoke bellowing out from be-capped spectators.
The member from Cavan implied that Monaghan people would up for attending this game in their thousands if it were in Clones, as if we cared that much.
Probably more Cavan people would attend the game in Clones than would be willing to endure an extra 45km journey to Blaney, but I doubt there would be more Monaghan people,.
At first glance I was curious why Blaney and not Clones but as GMF has already written, we have played much much bigger games in distant, tranquil places like Inniskeen (just down the road from Hackballscross).
Blaney not that far from parts of Cavan. Maybe the poster just thought because Cavan near Monaghan that a lot will travel.
BlaYney... thanks
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 08, 2017, 01:49:54 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 08, 2017, 12:59:29 PM
BlaYney... thanks
A grammer nazi. Good man.
'blayney, to give it its vernacular definition.. ;)
And he (Boycey) would be a spelling Nazi, and not a gramm
ar Nazi as described.. ;)
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 08, 2017, 12:56:09 PM
Blaney not that far from parts of Cavan. Maybe the poster just thought because Cavan near Monaghan that a lot will travel.
I suppose it depends from where but Clones is closer to most parts of Cavan than Bla
Yney and many parts are much closer. Road travel to Clones is better and there's a much better chance of getting a seat in the stand. I think it's a given that more Cavan people would travel to Clones that would travel to Blayney.
I doubt the location will make much difference, if any, to what will transpire on the pitch.
We play one home game in Blayney, one in Inniskeen and take on the Dubs in Clones. I think it's good to travel around the county's venues in the league.
Quote from: Main Street on February 08, 2017, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2017, 08:18:46 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 07, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
Some Cavan people do have an inflated opinion of their importance in the scheme of things.
It must be the 5 all Irelands
Is there anyone alive in Monaghan who can remember that?
Possibly there is a 30 second b&W youtube clip somewhere of men in caps running after a ball in droves, through a fog of cigarette smoke bellowing out from be-capped spectators.
The member from Cavan implied that Monaghan people would up for attending this game in their thousands if it were in Clones, as if we cared that much.
Probably more Cavan people would attend the game in Clones than would be willing to endure an extra 45km journey to Blaney, but I doubt there would be more Monaghan people,.
At first glance I was curious why Blaney and not Clones but as GMF has already written, we have played much much bigger games in distant, tranquil places like Inniskeen (just down the road from Hackballscross).
Monaghan are still Samless. One of the great mysteries.
Is Blayney one of the biggest pitches in country?
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 08, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
Is Blayney one of the biggest pitches in country?
Did you misspell again Mr Deeds and put in a p where there should be a b?
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 08, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
Is Blayney one of the biggest pitches in country?
Someone has been on Hoganstand ;D
It allegedly has a bigger surface area than Croker but actual pitch was pulled in a couple of metres each side at request of county manager a few years ago and I don't think it's ever been changed back..
Quote from: Boycey on February 08, 2017, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 08, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
Is Blayney one of the biggest pitches in country?
Someone has been on Hoganstand ;D
It allegedly has a bigger surface area but actual pitch was pulled in a couple of years ago at request of county manager a few years ago and I don't think it's ever been changed back..
Cheers for that. Couldn't believe anything you read on Hoganstand.
There's a very recent pic of St Mary's Park for you mrdeeds
https://twitter.com/nedkellyscb/status/825706953754210306
Quote from: Boycey on February 08, 2017, 08:18:29 PM
There's a very recent pic of St Mary's Park for you mrdeeds
https://twitter.com/nedkellyscb/status/825706953754210306
Jesus looks likes it's wider that it's longer.
Quote from: Main Street on February 08, 2017, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2017, 08:18:46 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 07, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
Some Cavan people do have an inflated opinion of their importance in the scheme of things.
It must be the 5 all Irelands
Is there anyone alive in Monaghan who can remember that?
Possibly there is a 30 second b&W youtube clip somewhere of men in caps running after a ball in droves, through a fog of cigarette smoke bellowing out from be-capped spectators.
The member from Cavan implied that Monaghan people would up for attending this game in their thousands if it were in Clones, as if we cared that much.
Probably more Cavan people would attend the game in Clones than would be willing to endure an extra 45km journey to Blaney, but I doubt there would be more Monaghan people,.
At first glance I was curious why Blaney and not Clones but as GMF has already written, we have played much much bigger games in distant, tranquil places like Inniskeen (just down the road from Hackballscross).
One thing for sure lad is there is no one alive in Monaghan that remembers Monaghan winning a Sam.
I thought the Blayney pitch was nothing special, just neat and tidy. The stand looked like it would have a hard time keeping out the rain and I suppose overall, the ground isn't up to holding a fixture of this standing and against a team with such a pedigree (though locked away in history) ::)
Clones was a more obvious setting with seating for 6 or 7,000.
What's changed for Monaghan this year is mainly plus and I think they'll have way too much for Cavan. Though not too much can be read into beating that Mayo team but the return of Gavin Doogan is by far the biggest plus, I thought he was outstanding v Mayo. The Hughes brothers were also a stand out. We don't miss the retirees, Clerkin and Finlay as they had already been faded out of the team, though we miss a free taker from the right side, Finlays side. Beggan will always be hit or miss, if he hits one from distance it's a bonus. McManus pegging two free kicks from the 45m mark was a welcome skill.
Clones has about 1000 more covered seats than Blayney everything else is subject to the elements. It's hardly Buckingham Palace ;D
just looking at the sigerson highlights on independent.ie
McCarthy scored 1-2 from play and looked really impressive. He has the talent to give Monaghan that other option up front beside mcmanus that the badly need. He's one to watch this year.
Quote from: straightred on February 08, 2017, 10:59:15 PM
just looking at the sigerson highlights on independent.ie
McCarthy scored 1-2 from play and looked really impressive. He has the talent to give Monaghan that other option up front beside mcmanus that the badly need. He's one to watch this year.
McCarthy and fellow UCD team mate McGinn are serious talents for Monaghan. McCarthy has bags of scoring potential but also works like a dog of the ball. He's excellent at disposing opposition players of the ball and probably best suited to a half forward role. I don't think we'll see too much of McGinn during this NFL campaign as he's got the U-21's to contend with too, unless of course they get eliminated early. I suppose seeing Jack McCarron back and fit is the great hope. Heard he was kicking points for fun at training recently.
Quote from: Boycey on February 08, 2017, 10:46:07 PM
Clones has about 1000 more covered seats than Blayney everything else is subject to the elements. It's hardly Buckingham Palace ;D
How many seats do you think are under that mini roof in Blayney?
A seat is still a seat and seat availability is likely to be a big criteria in the decision process of the intrepid Cavan supporter before deciding to make the journey of a lifetime into the bowels of Monaghan.
Here's who's down to play on the much discussed pitch:
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Monaghan are unchanged for Sunday's Allianz League clash against neighbours Cavan in Castleblayney.
Manager Malachy O'Rourke has kept faith with the same team that started in the 1-11 to 0-12 victory over Mayo in the opening round last Saturday.
Conor McManus and Darren Hughes were in inspiring form as the Farney men opened their Division 1 campaign with a merited success in Castlebar.
Talisman McManus finished with 0-6 to his name while Hughes hit 1-1 in a man-of-the-match performance from midfield.
Currin's Jack McCarron is named on the bench after being absent last weekend.
Monaghan (Allianz FL v Cavan): Rory Beggan; Fintan Kelly, Drew Wylie, Ryan Wylie; Kieran Duffy, Neil McAdam, Colin Walshe; Darren Hughes, Kieran Hughes; Karl O'Connell, Shane Carey, Gavin Doogan; Conor McCarthy, Thomas Kerr, Conor McManus.
Subs: Conor Forde, James Mealiff, Owen Coyle, Brian Greenan, Niall McKeown, Aaron Lynch, Dermot Malone, Owen Duffy, Ryan McAnespie, Jack McCarron, Barry McGinn.
http://www.hoganstand.com/monaghan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=265773 (http://www.hoganstand.com/monaghan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=265773)
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Strong line out with plenty of options from the bench. Good to see McCarron named also.
And Cavan have that x factor, a 16th man called P d'Gree.
I think we need more than dog food.
Have to say I have no great confidence going into this game. I think we are playing the same tactics we played under terry hyland ( despite our new manager claims otherwise) but we seem unsure of what we are supposed to be doing. I also think if we lose we see screwed.
Dour affair in Castleblayney
14:20
Cavan and Monaghan failing to set the pulses racing in Castleblayney, which is a shame for those in attendance in the cold conditions. Coming up to 20 minutes gone and Seánie Johnston's free remains the solitary score.
Mongahan struggling to get any quality ball into Conor McManus. Scoring chances few and far between.
Leaving this here for Main Streets attention. The crowd must have been on the edge of their seats for those first 20 minutes ;)
Listening to NS, I can hear the occasional shouts from a crowd over and above the sound of teeth chattering.
I think Seanie missed a sitter, a 13m free, I know how he feels.
It's level now, 10 mins to go and Cavan fires are burning.
Both teams did their best to escape victory and succeeded.
Cavan go home, only half depressed but I suppose their point has a bit more value.
Quote from: Main Street on February 12, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
Both teams did their best to escape victory and succeeded.
Cavan go home, only half depressed but I suppose their point has a bit more value.
Sounds like a real classic Main Street, I'm surprised you aren't on here bemoaning the quality on show. Was there any interludes from a different game or Hawkeyes to add a bit of excitement?
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 12, 2017, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 12, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
Both teams did their best to escape victory and succeeded.
Cavan go home, only half depressed but I suppose their point has a bit more value.
Sounds like a real classic Main Street, I'm surprised you aren't on here bemoaning the quality on show. Was there any interludes from a different game or Hawkeyes to add a bit of excitement?
Ah, thin skinned Benny is here, may god help your ever diminishing levels of self esteem and whataboutery Benny, because nothing else seems to be working.
Quote from: Main Street on February 12, 2017, 03:55:52 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 12, 2017, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 12, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
Both teams did their best to escape victory and succeeded.
Cavan go home, only half depressed but I suppose their point has a bit more value.
Sounds like a real classic Main Street, I'm surprised you aren't on here bemoaning the quality on show. Was there any interludes from a different game or Hawkeyes to add a bit of excitement?
Ah, thin skinned Benny is here, may god help your ever diminishing levels of self esteem and whataboutery Benny, because nothing else seems to be working.
i just thought a football connesseur as yourself would be even handed with your criticism of poor football on show.
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 12, 2017, 04:10:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 12, 2017, 03:55:52 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 12, 2017, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 12, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
Both teams did their best to escape victory and succeeded.
Cavan go home, only half depressed but I suppose their point has a bit more value.
Sounds like a real classic Main Street, I'm surprised you aren't on here bemoaning the quality on show. Was there any interludes from a different game or Hawkeyes to add a bit of excitement?
Ah, thin skinned Benny is here, may god help your ever diminishing levels of self esteem and whataboutery Benny, because nothing else seems to be working.
i just thought a football connesseur as yourself would be even handed with your criticism of poor football on show.
On show? I was listening to the game you twerp ;D
Some of you Tyronies are utter dullards.
The NS commentary was first class apart from the Cavan guy and as I wrote, the game was cráp.
ps. it's a football connoisseur, Benny.
Are you trying to make it as a lower order troll, Benny?
Quote from: Main Street on February 12, 2017, 06:37:23 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 12, 2017, 04:10:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 12, 2017, 03:55:52 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 12, 2017, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 12, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
Both teams did their best to escape victory and succeeded.
Cavan go home, only half depressed but I suppose their point has a bit more value.
Sounds like a real classic Main Street, I'm surprised you aren't on here bemoaning the quality on show. Was there any interludes from a different game or Hawkeyes to add a bit of excitement?
Ah, thin skinned Benny is here, may god help your ever diminishing levels of self esteem and whataboutery Benny, because nothing else seems to be working.
i just thought a football connesseur as yourself would be even handed with your criticism of poor football on show.
On show? I was listening to the game you twerp ;D
Some of you Tyronies are utter dullards.
The NS commentary was first class apart from the Cavan guy and as I wrote, the game was cráp.
ps. it's a football connoisseur, Benny.
Are you trying to make it as a lower order troll, Benny?
My apologies Main Street, I don't tend to read most of your posts. In fact I generally try to avoid hijacking a thread from a game I have no vested interest in just to slag off the teams involved. But even though I'm thin skinned I do manage to avoid petty name calling when posters consistently do it to games/threads involving Tyrone. So am I trying to be a troll...no. Though, I shall remind you of your obsessive Tyrone troll posts as the year progresses!
After that game can we not just close this thread????
Cavan dropped 11 balls into keeper's hand. And 13 wides.
Mushroom men were lucky today. I'll take a point but we deserved both.
Sounds like an uncharacteristically dour affair.
Nice one Jinxy.
Quote from: Itchy on February 12, 2017, 09:19:33 PM
Mushroom men were lucky today. I'll take a point but we deserved both.
I would tend to disagree. Desperate play by both teams for large parts of the game but when we were two up early in the second half we should have pushed on and closed it out. Instead, we seemed to freeze, symptomatic of the weather conditions..
Cavan were clever in defense and make it hard for us to get any ball to our inside forwards. Our shot selection was poor, but again, probably partly due to the packed defense.
Not good enough from a Mon perspective for this division. It won't do against stronger teams.
Well for one, a stone wall penalty in the last few mins was denied to Cavan by Golderick. Our shooting was also cat which ultimately cost us both points. I wouldnt expect a shooting performance like that again.
After Monaghan's great win in Mayo last weekend I expected them to beat a depleted Cavan team quite handy.
With Mayo beating Kerry away as well, it was a strange weekend of football but conditions were terrible.
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 13, 2017, 10:17:50 AM
After Monaghan's great win in Mayo last weekend I expected them to beat a depleted Cavan team quite handy.
With Mayo beating Kerry away as well, it was a strange weekend of football but conditions were terrible.
Is right, and there'll be another turn or two in her yet, as always is the case..
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 12, 2017, 02:54:34 PM
Dour affair in Castleblayney
14:20
Cavan and Monaghan failing to set the pulses racing in Castleblayney, which is a shame for those in attendance in the cold conditions. Coming up to 20 minutes gone and Seánie Johnston's free remains the solitary score.
Mongahan struggling to get any quality ball into Conor McManus. Scoring chances few and far between.
Leaving this here for Main Streets attention. The crowd must have been on the edge of their seats for those first 20 minutes ;)
It must have been pretty dour alright.
According to The Irish Times, "Monaghan and Cavan played out an agricultural 0-7 to 0-7 draw in Castleblaney." ;D