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Title: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: seafoid on November 18, 2016, 05:31:52 PM
Other than Bord Gáis....which often sounds like the prostitution regulator
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: johnneycool on November 18, 2016, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 18, 2016, 05:31:52 PM
Other than Bord Gáis....which often sounds like the prostitution regulator

Do the Rte news presenters pronounce Gardaí correctly?

It's very O'ey
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: 5 Sams on November 18, 2016, 08:35:14 PM
Cloughoge, Killeen, Siobhán, agus araile...there's loads..
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Rossfan on November 18, 2016, 08:49:08 PM
Mohill
Elphin
Scramogue
Lough
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: seafoid on November 19, 2016, 12:35:06 AM
Connacht
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: manfromdelmonte on November 19, 2016, 01:16:23 PM
Mullinalaghta
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: armaghniac on November 19, 2016, 01:25:29 PM
Dún Laoghaire
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: seafoid on November 19, 2016, 01:42:08 PM
Oughterard

What a pathetic transliteration though

Uachtar Árd is glorious

Galway city has a few names straight out of the Gaeilge like :

Lough Atalia/Loch an tSáile
Bohermore/Bóthar Mór
Doughiska/ Dubh Uisce
Shantalla/ Sean talamh
Liosbán
Ros cam

and many locals pronounce them as per the Gaeilge
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 19, 2016, 10:30:25 PM
Muid. Raćaıď. (As close to séimhiús as possible - unfortunately nothing goes on the M on my phone)
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Lar Naparka on November 19, 2016, 10:44:58 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 19, 2016, 07:19:22 PM
Fwinah Gwale
Crucksbullaghadawn is a hill not far from Manulla in Mayo. Pollatomish in Irish appears to be a rude term, doesn't it?
Pollawaddy is no different.
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: mrdeeds on November 19, 2016, 10:50:12 PM
Moynalty in Meath. Won tidy towns a couple years ago and newcasters couldn't pernounce it properly. Y is silent. Hector on Today FM at time couldn't say it and him a Meath man. In fact he hadn't a clue where it was.
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:18:08 AM
There is no part of Ireland that should be pronouncing caoimhin as cweeva. Dubs do it all the time.

Conal should never be koenal. Conan should never be koenan as koenan the barbarian

Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:19:03 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:18:08 AM
There is no part of Ireland that should be pronouncing caoimhin as cweeva. Dubs do it all the time.

Conal should never be koenal. Conan should never be koenan as koenan the barbarian

Sorry caoimhe not caoimhin
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: seafoid on November 20, 2016, 06:10:11 AM
Laois.  How does that look to English people, I wonder

Clontuskert outside Ballinashloe
All the locals say Cluain Tuaisceart

Skeheenarinky in Tipp
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Lar Naparka on November 20, 2016, 01:19:47 PM
I have yet to hear a non-Irish person pronounce "Ballaghadereen" correctly.
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: armaghniac on November 20, 2016, 01:45:22 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 20, 2016, 06:10:11 AM
Laois.  How does that look to English people, I wonder

Clontuskert outside Ballinashloe
All the locals say Cluain Tuaisceart

Why not just change the name to Cluain Tuaisceart and be done with bastardised spelling?
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: seafoid on November 20, 2016, 03:30:12 PM
Kiltimagh
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: 5 Sams on November 20, 2016, 04:08:37 PM
Gneeveguilla
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 08:44:40 AM
Blacklion in Cavan comes from Bealach Laighin, the road to Leinster . It makes more sense in Irish
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 21, 2016, 09:35:30 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 08:44:40 AM
Blacklion in Cavan comes from Bealach Laighin, the road to Leinster . It makes more sense in Irish

Definitely. An Blaic it is now. Such a bastardised version the 'official' language on signposts.
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: general_lee on November 21, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 08:44:40 AM
Blacklion in Cavan comes from Bealach Laighin, the road to Leinster . It makes more sense in Irish
Lovely always wondered where that came from...

A lot of people struggle with Derry..
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: armaghniac on November 21, 2016, 10:16:02 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 08:44:40 AM
Blacklion in Cavan comes from Bealach Laighin, the road to Leinster . It makes more sense in Irish

It would be even more sense if it said it was the road to Connacht!
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 10:53:20 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 21, 2016, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 21, 2016, 09:35:30 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 08:44:40 AM
Blacklion in Cavan comes from Bealach Laighin, the road to Leinster . It makes more sense in Irish

Definitely. An Blaic it is now. Such a bastardised version the 'official' language on signposts.

I live quite near Blacklion.  At a stage during the 90s the signposts read "Learga" (An Leargaidh) and the village was known as Largay in days gone by.  I always thought it took the name Blacklion from the Black Lion Inn staging post there.  God only knows what "An Blaic" is!
Bealach sounds more plausible

there is a Bealach Laighean/BlackLion in Greystones

Was Cavan always part of Ulster?
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Canalman on November 21, 2016, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:19:03 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:18:08 AM
There is no part of Ireland that should be pronouncing caoimhin as cweeva. Dubs do it all the time.

Conal should never be koenal. Conan should never be koenan as koenan the barbarian

Sorry caoimhe not caoimhin

Always thought Caoimhe pronounced phonetically as Queeva to be honest. How does the rest of the country pronounce it?
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 21, 2016, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: Canalman on November 21, 2016, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:19:03 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:18:08 AM
There is no part of Ireland that should be pronouncing caoimhin as cweeva. Dubs do it all the time.

Conal should never be koenal. Conan should never be koenan as koenan the barbarian

Sorry caoimhe not caoimhin

Always thought Caoimhe pronounced phonetically as Queeva to be honest. How does the rest of the country pronounce it?

Up North it's usually Kee-va
The blas is different up North

In Throne Kevin is Kyevin , Cara is Cyara
Oisín is pronounced without the fada , like Ocean in Armagh

etc etc
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Buttofthehill on November 21, 2016, 01:42:37 PM
Pádraig also causes troubleand Donnacha. I'm thinking of skysports.
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: BenDover on November 21, 2016, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 21, 2016, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: Canalman on November 21, 2016, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:19:03 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:18:08 AM
There is no part of Ireland that should be pronouncing caoimhin as cweeva. Dubs do it all the time.

Conal should never be koenal. Conan should never be koenan as koenan the barbarian

Sorry caoimhe not caoimhin

Always thought Caoimhe pronounced phonetically as Queeva to be honest. How does the rest of the country pronounce it?

Up North it's usually Kee-va
The blas is different up North

In Throne Kevin is Kyevin , Cara is Cyara
Oisín is pronounced without the fada , like Ocean in Armagh

etc etc
As Ard mhacha mé - and I'd say Osheen, probably because I have a bit of Irish but haven't heard Ocean
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Hardy on November 21, 2016, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: Buttofthehill on November 21, 2016, 01:42:37 PM
Pádraig also causes troubleand Donnacha. I'm thinking of skysports.

Donniker O'Calligan.
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: muppet on November 21, 2016, 03:15:00 PM
Michael Ó'Mhuircheartaigh
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: 5 Sams on November 21, 2016, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 21, 2016, 03:15:00 PM
Michael Ó'Mhuircheartaigh

There a few muppets that can't spell either!! ;)
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: muppet on November 21, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on November 21, 2016, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 21, 2016, 03:15:00 PM
Michael Ó'Mhuircheartaigh

There a few muppets that can't spell either!! ;)

Apologies.  :D

Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: 5 Sams on November 21, 2016, 04:12:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 21, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on November 21, 2016, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 21, 2016, 03:15:00 PM
Michael Ó'Mhuircheartaigh

There a few muppets that can't spell either!! ;)

Apologies.  :D

Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh

Maith thú ;D
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: mrdeeds on November 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
The English have a problem with Doherty. Ken Docerty the way they say it.
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: muppet on November 21, 2016, 04:27:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
The English have a problem with Doherty. Ken Docerty the way they say it.

Kevin Mo Ran used to play for United and Ireland.

And Paul Meg Rath
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 04:31:26 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
The English have a problem with Doherty. Ken Docerty the way they say it.

And Deirdre

Deedree
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: Rossfan on November 21, 2016, 04:45:39 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on November 20, 2016, 01:19:47 PM
I have yet to hear a non-Irish person pronounce "Ballaghadereen" correctly.
mMst irish media types plus local eejity chamber of Commerce, political and think their smart types mispronounce it as "BALLADREEN"
Gobshites.
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 21, 2016, 04:27:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
The English have a problem with Doherty. Ken Docerty the way they say it.

Kevin Mo Ran used to play for United and Ireland.

And Paul Meg Rath
Did you ever try pronouncing Holborn in front of an English person? It is impossible
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: sid waddell on November 21, 2016, 05:23:14 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
The English have a problem with Doherty. Ken Docerty the way they say it.
And most people have a problem with how to pronounce where he comes from.

It's Renna-la, not Ranna-la.
Title: Re: Irish names/words that foreigners and many Dubs cannot pronounce
Post by: lurganblue on November 22, 2016, 10:28:36 AM
Quote from: BenDover on November 21, 2016, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 21, 2016, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: Canalman on November 21, 2016, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:19:03 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 20, 2016, 01:18:08 AM
There is no part of Ireland that should be pronouncing caoimhin as cweeva. Dubs do it all the time.

Conal should never be koenal. Conan should never be koenan as koenan the barbarian

Sorry caoimhe not caoimhin

Always thought Caoimhe pronounced phonetically as Queeva to be honest. How does the rest of the country pronounce it?

Up North it's usually Kee-va
The blas is different up North

In Throne Kevin is Kyevin , Cara is Cyara
Oisín is pronounced without the fada , like Ocean in Armagh

etc etc
As Ard mhacha mé - and I'd say Osheen, probably because I have a bit of Irish but haven't heard Ocean

Yep, plenty of Oh Sheens round lurgan way but who am i to tell people they are pronouncing their child's name wrong  :P Cant remember hearing them name much until Oisin McConville destroyed Down in 1999.  He's a lot to answer for.

The Queeva pronunciation of Caoimhe always grates on me. Hate it. Sounds awful