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Title: Free masons
Post by: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 04:10:53 PM
Any masons or any of you know someone in the Masons?
Was reading about a high profile fella in the political ring who is in them and was a bit shocked by some of the things they do.  Spirit Cooking. Look that up if you want to lose your breakfast
If anyone is in it whats the allure? Or what do folks know about it?
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: Bord na Mona man on November 07, 2016, 04:18:09 PM
The late Vere Wynne-Jones of RTE was a freemason. I'm not sure if any other known figures are members.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: imtommygunn on November 07, 2016, 04:23:02 PM
Some of the wife's family were in the masons. Her dad had a mason book etc and told me a few things about it. Weird setup but seems a lot more prevalent than any of us thought with keywords etc etc in job interviews and all.

His dad was in them and died young. They were very good to his mother from a financial perspective and really were a massive assistance in bringing his family up.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: muppet on November 07, 2016, 04:24:27 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 04:10:53 PM
Any masons or any of you know someone in the Masons?
Was reading about a high profile fella in the political ring who is in them and was a bit shocked by some of the things they do.  Spirit Cooking. Look that up if you want to lose your breakfast
If anyone is in it whats the allure? Or what do folks know about it?

Worst
October
Surprise
Ever.


I predict evidence will emerge by midnight that Hillary is the daughter of Satan. Or the father of Satan. Or the Kenyan surrogate mother of Satan.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 04:31:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 07, 2016, 04:24:27 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 04:10:53 PM
Any masons or any of you know someone in the Masons?
Was reading about a high profile fella in the political ring who is in them and was a bit shocked by some of the things they do.  Spirit Cooking. Look that up if you want to lose your breakfast
If anyone is in it whats the allure? Or what do folks know about it?

Worst
October
Surprise
Ever.


I predict evidence will emerge by midnight that Hillary is the daughter of Satan. Or the father of Satan. Or the Kenyan surrogate mother of Satan.
Purposely not going in to politics muppet - just genuinely curious of people's experience
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: muppet on November 07, 2016, 04:35:08 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 04:31:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 07, 2016, 04:24:27 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 04:10:53 PM
Any masons or any of you know someone in the Masons?
Was reading about a high profile fella in the political ring who is in them and was a bit shocked by some of the things they do.  Spirit Cooking. Look that up if you want to lose your breakfast
If anyone is in it whats the allure? Or what do folks know about it?

Worst
October
Surprise
Ever.


I predict evidence will emerge by midnight that Hillary is the daughter of Satan. Or the father of Satan. Or the Kenyan surrogate mother of Satan.
Purposely not going in to politics muppet - just genuinely curious of people's experience

In fairness I haven't seen you on that thread in a while.  :D

To answer the question, I am not aware of anyone I know being a mason.

Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: foxcommander on November 07, 2016, 04:42:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 07, 2016, 04:24:27 PM
Or the Kenyan surrogate mother of Satan.

You really shouldn't call Obama names like that. He's bad but not that bad.

Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: Puckoon on November 07, 2016, 04:52:18 PM
I know quite a few through family ties over here. No spirit cooking with those folks.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: omaghjoe on November 07, 2016, 04:54:59 PM
Know a couple of people in them and attended a few functions of theirs, in the US.

Seem to be a harmless bunch of old people TBF.

I was kinda surprised that they are deemed to be a religion and (maybe rather paradoxily?) state that there are no false religions
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: Aristo 60 on November 07, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
I was at a funeral once and I spotted a few boys in white gloves etc. Didn't know they were masons at the time.

Anyway there was a young white glove wearing lad at the funeral (younger than me by a few years anyway) who I knew was a rising star at a very large firm I had worked for going back a few years.

It could have been his natural ability and intelligence that made him the rising star of course. Who knows.

What I can say for sure for sure is that he was no oil painting, yet he managed to be the poster boy on the firm's publicity material. When I saw the white gloves on him all those years later, it all made perfect sense. 
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on November 07, 2016, 04:52:18 PM
I know quite a few through family ties over here. No spirit cooking with those folks.
In fairness I don't think they are allowed to talk about much. The lad I knew back home who's Dad was in it said there were a lot of rituals ( he mentioned one about being locked in a coffin) where they were not allowed to tell.  All harmless at the start, business club, good old boys club, then the further and deeper you go...
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: BennyCake on November 07, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
Orange Order / Masons, just the same. Enough said.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: 5 Sams on November 07, 2016, 05:37:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXtQMz1RGNw
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 07:14:06 PM
The masons have a house in Gorey.  A pity they weren't in charge of the banks in the run up to 2008
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 07:18:00 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
Orange Order / Masons/ knights of the Columbanus, just the same. Enough said.

Fixed that for you
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 07, 2016, 07:20:06 PM
I work with a man who is high up in the Masons.

He is a gent; and is totally normal, ie he is 65 and he could drink me under the table.

I always thought the Masons were weird, but he has really made me change my mind about them.
He says their main aim is to look after the families of other Masons who died or has fallen on hard times.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: OgraAnDun on November 07, 2016, 07:21:49 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
Orange Order / Masons, just the same. Enough said.

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 07:39:55 PM
i watched a few videos there after the Simpsons one! It says there are 33 degrees or levels of masonry and you progress up each one. They are illuminati - seeking enlightenment and openly at the higher levels subscribe to following lucifer - who they argue is not satan by the way.
Look in to it a bit more.  I don't think arguing that someone is a good person means the masons are ok... from what I see they are a very dangerous organization cloaked in the occult and secrecy and ultimately satanic..
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: ardchieftain on November 07, 2016, 08:18:05 PM
Looking on the internet won't get you any true information Iceman. Maybe we should burn them all at the stake just in case.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 07, 2016, 08:18:05 PM
Looking on the internet won't get you any true information Iceman. Maybe we should burn them all at the stake just in case.
the internet seems to work for most other topics? I didn't say anyone has to be burned at the stake. I'm simply pointing out the dangers of the organisation
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 08:42:47 PM
The Occult! Ones i know in it do a lot of charity dinners and raise a lot of money for local charities.. I havent seen them ride any goats backwards or anything like that but I'm actually not in it so wouldnt know for sure...
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: imtommygunn on November 07, 2016, 08:45:03 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 07, 2016, 08:18:05 PM
Looking on the internet won't get you any true information Iceman. Maybe we should burn them all at the stake just in case.
the internet seems to work for most other topics? I didn't say anyone has to be burned at the stake. I'm simply pointing out the dangers of the organisation

There is quite a lot the internet doesn't work on like stopping pies being peddled...
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: ardchieftain on November 07, 2016, 08:49:39 PM
Was only being semi serious iceman. Ever hear of disinformation?

Oh, and the use of the word occult, like it's a dirty word always makes me cringe.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: Far East on November 08, 2016, 06:30:52 AM
Dodgy people.  The kind of people who would kill domestic cats and see nothing wrong in that.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: Puckoon on November 08, 2016, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 07:39:55 PM
i watched a few videos there after the Simpsons one! It says there are 33 degrees or levels of masonry and you progress up each one. They are illuminati - seeking enlightenment and openly at the higher levels subscribe to following lucifer - who they argue is not satan by the way.
Look in to it a bit more.  I don't think arguing that someone is a good person means the masons are ok... from what I see they are a very dangerous organization cloaked in the occult and secrecy and ultimately satanic..

I think you're falling for believing all the nonsense on the subject.  They're very open folks in the public eye of their communities.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: The Iceman on November 08, 2016, 05:31:29 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on November 08, 2016, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 07:39:55 PM
i watched a few videos there after the Simpsons one! It says there are 33 degrees or levels of masonry and you progress up each one. They are illuminati - seeking enlightenment and openly at the higher levels subscribe to following lucifer - who they argue is not satan by the way.
Look in to it a bit more.  I don't think arguing that someone is a good person means the masons are ok... from what I see they are a very dangerous organization cloaked in the occult and secrecy and ultimately satanic..

I think you're falling for believing all the nonsense on the subject.  They're very open folks in the public eye of their communities.
what if you're falling for their lies?
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: Puckoon on November 08, 2016, 05:45:26 PM
I don't think I am falling for anything, somewhat neutral in regards to the Masons. I certainly don't regard them as satanic, dangerous, or cloaked in the occult. Cloaked in mystery for sure. But sure so are women.

Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: J70 on November 08, 2016, 05:58:09 PM
Monty Python's take (with a brief snippet of Not the Nine O'Clock News first...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNqzHRd8nNM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNqzHRd8nNM)
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: The Iceman on November 08, 2016, 06:02:03 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on November 08, 2016, 05:45:26 PM
I don't think I am falling for anything, somewhat neutral in regards to the Masons. I certainly don't regard them as satanic, dangerous, or cloaked in the occult. Cloaked in mystery for sure. But sure so are women.
If it was me and my family was exposed to a society "cloaked in mystery" I would be checking them out carefully
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: laoislad on November 08, 2016, 06:06:03 PM
I'd say there is worse c***ts to be found in the Catholic Church than these Mason fellas.
Title: Re: Free masons
Post by: J70 on November 08, 2016, 06:08:00 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 07, 2016, 07:39:55 PM
i watched a few videos there after the Simpsons one! It says there are 33 degrees or levels of masonry and you progress up each one. They are illuminati - seeking enlightenment and openly at the higher levels subscribe to following lucifer - who they argue is not satan by the way.
Look in to it a bit more.  I don't think arguing that someone is a good person means the masons are ok... from what I see they are a very dangerous organization cloaked in the occult and secrecy and ultimately satanic..

Occult? Satanic??