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Title: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: BennyHarp on October 04, 2016, 09:32:17 PM
What a player! Shame his last few seasons in a Kerry jersey were dogged by injuries. One of very few truly great forwards in the modern game!

http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/thepateam/colm-cooper-retire-intercounty-football/
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 04, 2016, 09:36:17 PM
Some career he had was a joy to watch. Best of luck to him if he does retire.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire
Post by: T Fearon on October 04, 2016, 10:02:33 PM
Sad news.The outstanding player of the millennium to date,and a true honest sportsman into the bargain
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire
Post by: Jinxy on October 04, 2016, 10:19:01 PM
Was never the same after his knee injury.
An absolute joy to watch in his prime.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on October 04, 2016, 10:20:18 PM
The greatest flat track bully and player who could steamroll cannon fodder to play the game.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 04, 2016, 10:25:12 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on October 04, 2016, 10:20:18 PM
The greatest flat track bully and player who could steamroll cannon fodder to play the game.
::)
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire
Post by: laceer on October 04, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Some player. Made it look effortless. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire
Post by: beer baron on October 04, 2016, 10:35:50 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on October 04, 2016, 10:20:18 PM
The greatest flat track bully and player who could steamroll cannon fodder to play the game.


;D  Put that wooden spoon away for once old chap  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire
Post by: macdanger2 on October 04, 2016, 10:36:14 PM
Class footballer, it was a pleasure to watch him (when he wasn't playing against us at any rate)
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: yellowcard on October 04, 2016, 11:02:29 PM
Most skilful player of this millennium to date. Below Maurice Fitz in terms of pure elegance and natural ability but at his peak as an inside forward he was unmarkable. Played the game the right way with barely a foul stroke despite coming in for plenty of treatment from rugged corner backs. It's the right time for him to go, the last thing you want to see is a player like him seeing out his career mostly on the bench.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: rrhf on October 04, 2016, 11:33:41 PM
A top quality footballer sublimely skilled and enjoyed watching him rip apart other teams.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: sid waddell on October 04, 2016, 11:46:02 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 04, 2016, 11:02:29 PM
Below Maurice Fitz in terms of pure elegance and natural ability
In what way was Gooch below Maurice Fitzgerald in terms of natural ability or elegance?

Elegance is in the eye of the beholder, but elegance to me is ability to beat a man with the drop of a shoulder, to pass the ball into the net in the blinking of an eye, to split a defence wide open with a single pass.

He is/was as elegant and naturally talented as players come.

4-18 from play in All-Ireland finals as opposed to Fitzgerald's 0-4 from play in finals.

Has anybody else hit 4-18 from play in All-Ireland finals?

The elegance of execution.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: yellowcard on October 05, 2016, 01:03:47 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 04, 2016, 11:46:02 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 04, 2016, 11:02:29 PM
Below Maurice Fitz in terms of pure elegance and natural ability
In what way was Gooch below Maurice Fitzgerald in terms of natural ability or elegance?

Elegance is in the eye of the beholder, but elegance to me is ability to beat a man with the drop of a shoulder, to pass the ball into the net in the blinking of an eye, to split a defence wide open with a single pass.

He is/was as elegant and naturally talented as players come.

4-18 from play in All-Ireland finals as opposed to Fitzgerald's 0-4 from play in finals.

Has anybody else hit 4-18 from play in All-Ireland finals?

The elegance of execution.

I would actually argue that Cooper was more productive but Fitzgerald had that languid effortless style and was more naturally 2 footed. Absolutely it's in the eye of the beholder. Personally I'd prefer to watch Fitzgerald who was a similar type player to Zidane in soccer, he just had an immaculate touch, maybe not the best athlete but was born with a gift.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: EastTyrone on October 05, 2016, 08:49:19 AM
Devastating that he never got a Player of the Year. Surly he had to deserve one, in one of the years Kerry won the AI.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: The Aristocrat on October 05, 2016, 08:57:49 AM
One of the best, and a good guy to match.

Is the Gooch type player a dying breed? if you look at some of the physical conditioning of other players.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: dublin7 on October 05, 2016, 09:01:10 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on October 04, 2016, 09:32:17 PM
What a player! Shame his last few seasons in a Kerry jersey were dogged by injuries. One of very few truly great forwards in the modern game!

http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/thepateam/colm-cooper-retire-intercounty-football/

While it's clear the Gooch is coming to the end of his career none of the papers carried this story this morning or on their websites. Wasn't mentioned on the sports news on newstalk or RTE either.  I don't know much about this website, so what are the chances this story is actually true?
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2016, 09:06:35 AM
I hope it's not. I think a guy like him could have a big say in helping with bringing the good minors through if he were still playing.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: TabClear on October 05, 2016, 10:20:04 AM
Quote from: EastTyrone on October 05, 2016, 08:49:19 AM
Devastating that he never got a Player of the Year. Surly he had to deserve one, in one of the years Kerry won the AI.

Is that true? Best forward of the noughties and a joy to watch.   So accurate from play and never looked hurried.

I remember watching him early in his intercounty career and proclaiming that he was too slight to make it at that level ...... :-\ :-\ :-\

Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: EastTyrone on October 05, 2016, 10:30:47 AM
Quote from: TabClear on October 05, 2016, 10:20:04 AM
Quote from: EastTyrone on October 05, 2016, 08:49:19 AM
Devastating that he never got a Player of the Year. Surly he had to deserve one, in one of the years Kerry won the AI.

Is that true? Best forward of the noughties and a joy to watch.   So accurate from play and never looked hurried.

I remember watching him early in his intercounty career and proclaiming that he was too slight to make it at that level ...... :-\ :-\ :-\

Yeah, it is unfortunately.



2015   
Jack McCaffrey
Dublin
2014   
James O'Donoghue
Kerry
2013   
Michael Darragh MacAuley
Dublin
2012   
Karl Lacey
Donegal
2011   
Alan Brogan
Dublin
2010   
Bernard Brogan
Dublin[3]
2009   
Paul Galvin
Kerry
2008   
Sean Cavanagh
Tyrone
2007   
Marc Ó Sé
Kerry
2006   
Kieran Donaghy
Kerry
2005   
Stephen O'Neill
Tyrone
2004   
Tomás Ó Sé
Kerry
2003   
Steven McDonnell
Armagh
2002   
Kieran McGeeney
Armagh
2001   
Pádraic Joyce
Galway
2000   
Seamus Moynihan
Kerry
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: twohands!!! on October 05, 2016, 10:31:56 AM
Quote from: TabClear on October 05, 2016, 10:20:04 AM
Quote from: EastTyrone on October 05, 2016, 08:49:19 AM
Devastating that he never got a Player of the Year. Surly he had to deserve one, in one of the years Kerry won the AI.

Is that true? Best forward of the noughties and a joy to watch.   So accurate from play and never looked hurried.

I remember watching him early in his intercounty career and proclaiming that he was too slight to make it at that level ...... :-\ :-\ :-\

In fairness he resembled a blade of grass when he first appeared on the county scene.

One of the all time greats - played the game at a different speed to most other players.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: Rossfan on October 05, 2016, 01:28:16 PM
Was one if the best right from the first day I saw him play for Kerry v  Laythrum in the League in Kenagh!
Carrick unplayable as was the Hyde that day.
He was so small and frail looking on an extremely soft pitch yet you knew you were seeing a good one.
If true then best wishes on your retirement.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: twohands!!! on October 05, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Looks like a serious clearout in the kingdom so

O'Se, Donaghy, O'Mahony, Sheehan and Cooper all out the gap

Lot of big names there.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: Esmarelda on October 05, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 04, 2016, 11:46:02 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 04, 2016, 11:02:29 PM
Below Maurice Fitz in terms of pure elegance and natural ability
In what way was Gooch below Maurice Fitzgerald in terms of natural ability or elegance?

Elegance is in the eye of the beholder, but elegance to me is ability to beat a man with the drop of a shoulder, to pass the ball into the net in the blinking of an eye, to split a defence wide open with a single pass.

He is/was as elegant and naturally talented as players come.

4-18 from play in All-Ireland finals as opposed to Fitzgerald's 0-4 from play in finals.

Has anybody else hit 4-18 from play in All-Ireland finals?

The elegance of execution.
A post that shows the irrelevance of isolated statistics.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: Unlaoised on October 05, 2016, 02:53:34 PM
Hope he stays on for another year didn't look out of place this year...still has plenty to offer...


Great player in his prime one of the best !!!!
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: rosnarun on October 05, 2016, 04:04:12 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on October 04, 2016, 10:20:18 PM
The greatest flat track bully and player who could steamroll cannon fodder to play the game.
are you Martín very very beag Mchugh ?
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: Syferus on October 06, 2016, 12:33:46 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 05, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Looks like a serious clearout in the kingdom so

O'Se, Donaghy, O'Mahony, Sheehan and Cooper all out the gap

Lot of big names there.

Few of them make Kerry any weaker. The first three are well past it and the fourth never really set the world on fire at any point.

Hopefully Cooper doesn't do a Marc/Tomas/O'Mahony and hang on too long so that your lasting image of them is them being laid out by younger bucks. Johnny Cooper had Gooch in his pocket this year. Really ever since Turbo Tom helped do in his knee he's been far easier to close out of games.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: twohands!!! on October 06, 2016, 01:21:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 06, 2016, 12:33:46 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 05, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Looks like a serious clearout in the kingdom so

O'Se, Donaghy, O'Mahony, Sheehan and Cooper all out the gap

Lot of big names there.

Few of them make Kerry any weaker. The first three are well past it and the fourth never really set the world on fire at any point.

Hopefully Cooper doesn't do a Marc/Tomas/O'Mahony and hang on too long so that your lasting image of them is them being laid out by younger bucks. Johnny Cooper had Gooch in his pocket this year. Really ever since Turbo Tom helped do in his knee he's been far easier to close out of games.

Yeah Cooper hasn't looked anything like the same player since the same since the knee injury unfortunately.

It's more the fact that it will be a lot of familiar names moving on.

Even with those lads moving on, Kerry will still have a couple of over 30s in the squad - Donnacha Walsh, Maher, Darran O'Sullivan are all past the 30 mark aswell
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: Fuzzman on October 07, 2016, 02:12:59 PM
No more news on this story. I'd say we'll not hear for sure until the New Year.
Replacing Bryan Sheehan's free taking could be Kerry's biggest problem.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2016, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on October 07, 2016, 02:12:59 PM
No more news on this story. I'd say we'll not hear for sure until the New Year.
Replacing Bryan Sheehan's free taking could be Kerry's biggest problem.

Seeing as he warmed the bench most games recently Fitzmaurice isn't of the same opinion.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: 5 Sams on October 07, 2016, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 05, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Looks like a serious clearout in the kingdom so

O'Se, Donaghy, O'Mahony, Sheehan and Cooper all out the gap

Lot of big names there.

None of them out the gap yet..
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2016, 10:30:12 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on October 07, 2016, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 05, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Looks like a serious clearout in the kingdom so

O'Se, Donaghy, O'Mahony, Sheehan and Cooper all out the gap

Lot of big names there.

None of them out the gap yet..

They're not noted for their speed alright, 5 Sams.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: Denn Forever on October 08, 2016, 05:06:30 PM
If he got a bank transfer to cavan, could we persuade him to play for us?
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: Jinxy on October 08, 2016, 05:22:04 PM
A bank transfer from Cavan might work.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: muppet on October 08, 2016, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 08, 2016, 05:06:30 PM
If he got a bank transfer to cavan, could we persuade him to play for us?

Would have to hurl first?
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: rrhf on October 08, 2016, 11:30:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 07, 2016, 10:30:12 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on October 07, 2016, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 05, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Looks like a serious clearout in the kingdom so

O'Se, Donaghy, O'Mahony, Sheehan and Cooper all out the gap

Lot of big names there.

None of them out the gap yet..


They're not noted for their speed alright, 5 Sams.

Seriously though could you imagine that group playing out a couple of years in somewhere like Waterford, Roscommon or Derry they'd make some difference. Even Mayo.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: Syferus on October 08, 2016, 11:53:21 PM
Quote from: rrhf on October 08, 2016, 11:30:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 07, 2016, 10:30:12 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on October 07, 2016, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 05, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Looks like a serious clearout in the kingdom so

O'Se, Donaghy, O'Mahony, Sheehan and Cooper all out the gap

Lot of big names there.

None of them out the gap yet..


They're not noted for their speed alright, 5 Sams.

Seriously though could you imagine that group playing out a couple of years in somewhere like Waterford, Roscommon or Derry they'd make some difference. Even Mayo.

Tyrone need help long before you should be getting to Mayo.
Title: Re: Colm Cooper set to retire?
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2016, 04:41:05 PM
Good to see this is nonsense and he's still playing on.