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Title: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: ashman on June 14, 2016, 06:15:23 PM
Three questions:

1/ is there too much handpassing in modern Gaelic football.

2/ if you think there is , what is the solution.

3) what would be the be benefits for the game.


Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: thewobbler on June 14, 2016, 06:19:08 PM
I'd suggest from the outset that there's two kinds of hand passing. One enables a fluid running game that's a joy to watch. The other is endless recycling of lateral and stationary passes, which is an abomination to watch.

But I'd still rather watch either form than watch lads boot the ball aimlessly forward.
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: BennyHarp on June 14, 2016, 06:55:30 PM
Remember when they bought in a rule that a hand pass had to be with a closed fist? Whatever happened to that?
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: Rossfan on June 14, 2016, 07:02:54 PM
Between about 1950 and 1974 you could only fist the ball.
The throw was brought back then and now about 70% of Gaelic players seldom/never/ can't kick the bloody ball.
The throwing over the bar needs to be abolished asap.
To answer Ashman
1 yes
2 limit it - My proposal is if you get a handpass you can't handpass
3 bring back the foot into football.
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: DuffleKing on June 14, 2016, 07:24:12 PM

Yes what we need to improve the game is the comical sight of footballers trying to perfect the subtlety of kick passing 4 yards to a team mate.

This has been trialled already and been an utter failure.
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 14, 2016, 08:06:50 PM
How about doing away with the fisted point. Drives me mad seeing players in on goal with the keeper coming out and fisting it over. Maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: Rossfan on June 14, 2016, 08:47:40 PM
They don't even have to fist it. As so many if them were using the open hand and getting away with it the rule was changed.
It's a sickening sight alright.
And as for the "pass the parcel" shiteology......
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: macdanger2 on June 16, 2016, 11:49:46 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 14, 2016, 08:06:50 PM
How about doing away with the fisted point. Drives me mad seeing players in on goal with the keeper coming out and fisting it over. Maybe it's just me.

Absolutely, I hate seeing a player not having the confidence to kick the ball and going for the 20m fist/throw instead
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: Jinxy on June 17, 2016, 12:15:49 AM
How else is Michael Dara MacAuley supposed to score?
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 17, 2016, 09:11:00 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 14, 2016, 06:19:08 PM
I'd suggest from the outset that there's two kinds of hand passing. One enables a fluid running game that's a joy to watch. The other is endless recycling of lateral and stationary passes, which is an abomination to watch.

But I'd still rather watch either form than watch lads boot the ball aimlessly forward.

+1
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: Rossfan on June 17, 2016, 10:05:09 AM
Ulsterites  just love throwball ::)
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 17, 2016, 10:26:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2016, 10:05:09 AM
Ulsterites  just love throwball ::)

As opposed to the technically superior "hoof it in".
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: twohands!!! on June 17, 2016, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 17, 2016, 12:15:49 AM
How else is Michael Dara MacAuley supposed to score?

Ah don't be mean to the first Player of the Year who's not able to kick a point.
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: Rossfan on June 17, 2016, 11:45:29 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 17, 2016, 10:26:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2016, 10:05:09 AM
Ulsterites  just love throwball ::)

As opposed to the technically superior "hoof it in".
No. Think of Dublin  kicking the oul football ;) and all the better kicking it into forwards moving into space. Also kicking long over the heads if the blankets.
As for hoofin it in - at least you might get a score but you won't score playing pass the parcel over and back in the middle of the field.
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 17, 2016, 12:23:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2016, 10:05:09 AM
Ulsterites  just love throwball ::)

Yeah, maybe we should all start playing the superior Roscommon brand of football.
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 17, 2016, 12:33:03 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2016, 11:45:29 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 17, 2016, 10:26:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2016, 10:05:09 AM
Ulsterites  just love throwball ::)

As opposed to the technically superior "hoof it in".
No. Think of Dublin  kicking the oul football ;) and all the better kicking it into forwards moving into space. Also kicking long over the heads if the blankets.
As for hoofin it in - at least you might get a score but you won't score playing pass the parcel over and back in the middle of the field.

Dublin can hand pass with the best of them. They're good whichever way they play it. Some other other counties tho...  :-[

If you think hoofing it in is a better way of achieving a score than retaining position, then we'll leave er there.
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: Rossfan on June 17, 2016, 01:02:56 PM
I never saw anyone getting a score  retaining possession - except Joe Sheridan of course ;D
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: Jinxy on June 17, 2016, 01:22:44 PM
He would have kicked it sooner if he hadn't been fouled.
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: muppet on June 17, 2016, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 17, 2016, 01:22:44 PM
He would have kicked it sooner if he hadn't been fouled.

He was held up diving for the line. Then while at the bottom of the ruck, under the posts, he inexplicably tried for the drop-goal and made a Sludden out of it.
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 17, 2016, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2016, 01:02:56 PM
I never saw anyone getting a score  retaining possession - except Joe Sheridan of course ;D

Of course. Hoofing it over the bar is the only aspect of the game we should focus on. We should shorten the pitches and just let the keepers have a long range kicking contest. Unfortunately Dublin would still be at the front. 
Title: Re: The Handpass in Gaelic Football.
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2016, 02:02:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2016, 10:05:09 AM
Ulsterites  just love throwball ::)

A prod workmate of mine back in the 90's called it catchykickyball. It's probably handypalmdyball now.  ;D