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Title: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: seafoid on June 04, 2016, 01:03:34 PM
Apart from Mayo and Cork  :o
Kildare had a decent team in 1998 to 2000 who didn't manage it. Galway mid 80s.  Who else ?
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: Crete Boom on June 04, 2016, 01:31:30 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2016, 01:03:34 PM
Apart from Mayo and Cork  :o
Kildare had a decent team in 1998 to 2000 who didn't manage it. Galway mid 80s.  Who else ?

Cork won an All Ireland in 2010. Galway in the early 70's were quality and didn't win an All Ireland. Galway lost 3 finals in a row in the 1940's , the Galway hurlers since 88 have racked up the All Ireland final losses .
God I don't know why I have given oxygen to this shite talk but look Seafoid if Mayo do win an All Ireland which we all know is yours and a small minority of Galway fans biggest fear just go pontificate about the middle East or keep pretending you have read Ulysses or whatever else you can fill your days with!!!

Mods as a nice summertime present could you please merge all shitman's Mayo will never win the All Ireland before Galway will threads please , just so the rest of us can steer clear??
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 01:55:24 PM
Cavan in the 60s, split ulster titles with Down. Down won 3 all Ireland's and that last great Cavan team won none.
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: T Fearon on June 04, 2016, 02:10:56 PM
If teams didn't win All Irelands how could they be described as "high achieving teams?"
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: waterfordlad on June 04, 2016, 02:13:36 PM
Waterford hurlers with 4 Munster titles between 2002 and 2010 and a National League in 2007 but only made it to one All Ireland final where we were hammered by Kilkenny. Hopefully the new team which are showing promise and already have a League title can do it as 1959 is a long time ago!
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: Schkite on June 04, 2016, 03:18:55 PM
If we're going by the teams in the first post then Monaghan of the mid-80s would be similar. Many of that group won 3 Ulsters and a National League.
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: ashman on June 04, 2016, 04:03:27 PM
Quote from: waterfordlad on June 04, 2016, 02:13:36 PM
Waterford hurlers with 4 Munster titles between 2002 and 2010 and a National League in 2007 but only made it to one All Ireland final where we were hammered by Kilkenny. Hopefully the new team which are showing promise and already have a League title can do it as 1959 is a long time ago!

Probably the best ever hurling team to watch but the defence was an Achilles heel.

The current team has a better defence in both personnel & structure . 
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: seafoid on June 04, 2016, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: waterfordlad on June 04, 2016, 02:13:36 PM
Waterford hurlers with 4 Munster titles between 2002 and 2010 and a National League in 2007 but only made it to one All Ireland final where we were hammered by Kilkenny. Hopefully the new team which are showing promise and already have a League title can do it as 1959 is a long time ago!
Good call
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: trentoneill15 on June 04, 2016, 04:23:53 PM
Mayo of 1990s and 2000s, Derry won one and I would view Mayo as a far stronger footballing county than Derry however I recall Derry beating a strong Mayo side in a rainy Celtic Park in 2007.
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 04:32:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 04, 2016, 02:19:26 PM
Antrim 2007-present

Hurling or football or maybe both?
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: BennyCake on June 04, 2016, 04:38:01 PM
Kilkenny hurlers 2010. Bloody chokers.
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: seafoid on June 04, 2016, 04:50:12 PM
Roscommon late 70s. 4 in a row Connacht champions. Had some class players.  Got to the 1980 final but lost. Unlucky to have been around in an era when Connacht teams didn't win big.
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: didlyi on June 04, 2016, 11:10:22 PM
The Waterford hurlers! Maybe their luck will change soon
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: ONeill on June 04, 2016, 11:21:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2016, 04:50:12 PM
Roscommon late 70s. 4 in a row Connacht champions. Had some class players.  Got to the 1980 final but lost. Unlucky to have been around in an era when Connacht teams didn't win big.

Wasn't there a Roscommon club team around that time which kept falling at the final hurdle or close to it?
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: seafoid on June 04, 2016, 11:41:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 04, 2016, 11:21:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2016, 04:50:12 PM
Roscommon late 70s. 4 in a row Connacht champions. Had some class players.  Got to the 1980 final but lost. Unlucky to have been around in an era when Connacht teams didn't win big.

Wasn't there a Roscommon club team around that time which kept falling at the final hurdle or close to it?
Clann na nGael. Awful mi adh
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on June 04, 2016, 11:52:49 PM
I agree with Waterfordlad. I thought that team were hosed by the system. I remember seeing some Waterford bucks rolling around Terenure, Dublin 6, on the Wednesday after they won the first Munster, in 2003 or whenever it was, still wearing the jerseys. That must have been some session, and more power to them.

The Rossies of the late 70s have already been mentioned but I would spare a thought for the Derek-Duggan Rossies of 90/91 too. Bad beats in both semi-finals.

Mythology holds that Cork of the latter-half of the 70s were the second-best team in the country. Although that mythology gets a little shaky when you wonder if that makes Kerry or Dublin third. Cork are seldom behind the door when it comes to the self-praise.

Nudie Hughes' Monaghan of the 'eighties have been mentioned. They were an exciting prospect at a time when the Championship seemed every bit as Dublin/Kerry dominated as it seems now. The more things change, the more they remain the same.
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: ck on June 05, 2016, 12:03:24 AM
Current Rossie side could be considered as high achieving in div 1? Could they win an all Ireland? Probably not but a Connacht would certainly be on their radar.
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 12:17:25 AM
Quote from: ck on June 05, 2016, 12:03:24 AM
Current Rossie side could be considered as high achieving in div 1? Could they win an all Ireland? Probably not but a Connacht would certainly be on their radar.

I'd settle for beating the daylights out of Sligo for now.
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: ck on June 05, 2016, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 12:17:25 AM
Quote from: ck on June 05, 2016, 12:03:24 AM
Current Rossie side could be considered as high achieving in div 1? Could they win an all Ireland? Probably not but a Connacht would certainly be on their radar.

I'd settle for beating the daylights out of Sligo for now.

Will be lucky to be within 10points Syf. Carew is doing his best but I think he took us at the wrong time. I'm sure NY sorted your cobwebs.
Title: Re: High achieving teams that didn't win the all Ireland
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2016, 07:56:39 AM
The current Mayo team and the 96 version should have won the All Ireland.