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In 1952 both counties had 3 all Irelands each. 6 Nil to Galway since but Mayo lead in number of Connacht championships and have loads of Croke Park experience.

Quote from: seafoid on April 04, 2016, 03:36:39 PM
In 1952 both counties had 3 all Irelands each. 6 Nil to Galway since but Mayo lead in number of Connacht championships and have loads of Croke Park experience.

It is sad to see how much of a slump (despite their young talent) Galway are in that all Galway football supporters can do is poke fun at Mayo's recent failed attempts to win the big one.
Actually the saddest thing I ever heard was a Galway supporter after their loss to Donegal last year remarking that he didn't care if Galway won the All Ireland again as long as Mayo didn't win one!!!

Personally I wouldn't care if Galway win 5 in a row as long as Mayo could land Sam once in my lifetime!!! If Galway were to win a couple of All Irelands in the next couple of years similar to 98/2001 I would tip my hat in respect to them for finishing the job we couldn't and would hope one day to better them not sit in the shade and throw stones at them.

At this rate I might be in the ground before we see Sam again although I might have said the exact same thing in the mid 90's. A bloody Connacht title would be a big achievement at this stage.

Quote from: Crete Boom on April 04, 2016, 03:47:45 PM

Quote from: seafoid on April 04, 2016, 03:36:39 PM
In 1952 both counties had 3 all Irelands each. 6 Nil to Galway since but Mayo lead in number of Connacht championships and have loads of Croke Park experience.

It is sad to see how much of a slump (despite their young talent) Galway are in that all Galway football supporters can do is poke fun at Mayo's recent failed attempts to win the big one.
Actually the saddest thing I ever heard was a Galway supporter after their loss to Donegal last year remarking that he didn't care if Galway won the All Ireland again as long as Mayo didn't win one!!!

Personally I wouldn't care if Galway win 5 in a row as long as Mayo could land Sam once in my lifetime!!! If Galway were to win a couple of All Irelands in the next couple of years similar to 98/2001 I would tip my hat in respect to them for finishing the job we couldn't and would hope one day to better them not sit in the shade and throw stones at them.

Off course you did

At the moment I cannot see any way that Galway will win an All Ireland before Mayo, who have somehow contrived to lose at least two All Ireland's that they really should have won in my lifetime. Talk of Galway people not caring as long as Mayo don't win is crazy, we are gone miles back and need to sort out our own house.
Mayo are in a far better place than Galway and are there or there abouts year after year, we can't even win a Connacht at the moment and the Rossies look to be ahead of us as well.

I had a really bad feeling about the match in 2013 and expected Galway to get a serious hiding, starting to think that way about 2016 at this stage but they have 10 weeks to come up with something for Mayo. At the end of the day this is a question for next October, the league won't matter a jot in comparison to championship performances.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 04, 2016, 03:52:33 PM
At this rate I might be in the ground before we see Sam again although I might have said the exact same thing in the mid 90's. A bloody Connacht title would be a big achievement at this stage.

I was talking to Tomas Mannion's sister in the mid 90s and she was talking about how much abuse the footballers used to get especially after the loss to Leitrim in 1994 when a bloody Connacht title was hard to imagine..

In answer to your question, Mayo at the moment, no question. For reasons set out elsewhere on this forum, the current Galway squad won't be winning Sam anytime at all soon. Whether the current Mayo squad, renewed under new management, can do it is a big one; Writing off Kerry is like writing off KK, always foolhardy, yet still they rely a lot on their aging players. Mayo don't fear Donegal, nor should they, but Tyrone could be trickier this year. Then there'll be Dublin who'll take some stopping; for Mayo to win Sam it may take for Kerry to beat the Dubs out of their way first. This is all assuming Rochford can coax a late spell of good form (and a richer scoring vein) out of a fairly well-traveled Mayo panel. I must be in the minority of Galway fans who actively wants to see Mayo win Sam, for the sake of Connacht football and for upsetting the natural order.

The one very slight thing in Galway's favour is tradition, the comfort of having done it before; the very rare times they have a team good enough to win, a-la '98, they know it and push on.

Maybe Galway will have to wait for the next generation of Donnellans, Fallons and Joyces?

Mayo have hit rich seams of talent in the last 6 decades without landing the big prize. Even during the 70s when we couldn t win a Connacht be actually had some very good players.

Galway also lost finals badly in the 70's and 80s when they had top teams.

The difference between winning and losing can be down to the quality of others around at the same time. Mayo have been unlucky at times, like with the current Dublin side ( arguably their best ever) and Kerry in the noughties ( arguably their best as well).
Losing to Cork '89 and Donegal 2012 another day's work though.

The past is the past and there is nothing we can do about it. The mad thing about the great Galway team circa 1997 -2002 is you'd expect success like that to inspire the next generation? To make them think they have a god given right to win Connacht and AI's. And that thay'd go on to dominate Connacht. On the opposite side Mayo's continual lack of success seems to inspire team after team to come back and back. We have ended up like some sort of sado masochistic county, but we keep plugging!

How much is the growth of Rugby affecting Galway?

Quote from: From the Bunker on April 05, 2016, 10:20:58 PM
The past is the past and there is nothing we can do about it. The mad thing about the great Galway team circa 1997 -2002 is you'd expect success like that to inspire the next generation? To make them think they have a god given right to win Connacht and AI's. And that thay'd go on to dominate Connacht. On the opposite side Mayo's continual lack of success seems to inspire team after team to come back and back. We have ended up like some sort of sado masochistic county, but we keep plugging!

I think we are in a position to keep plugging because we are a big county with gaelic football the top game. So there are always a good number of quality players there. We can rebuild a lot quicker than most. Galway is a bigger county but is only half football.
In Galway the St. Jarlath's nursery was a great + for them. . A conveyor belt of players coming out with success and confidence. That's gone now maybe. Jarlath's is now just a local school with local lads like schools everywhere else in the province. This year no Galway college made the last 4 in Connacht. 2 Sligo schools contested the final. That would be beyond belief 10 years ago.

Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on April 05, 2016, 10:58:39 PM
How much is the growth of Rugby affecting Galway?

I can t see it affecting Galway especially. Or anywhere else much.

Mayo e.g. lost 2 players that would have been good county players to rugby last 15 years or so.
We lost more to pro soccer and as many to Aussie Rules.

Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on April 05, 2016, 10:58:39 PM
How much is the growth of Rugby affecting Galway?

Not a lot I wouldn't think, there's 3 senior football clubs within Galway city, St. Michael's, St. James', Salthill Knocknacarra, all of which are fairly competitive and would probably be in the top tier of senior football clubs in the county. It's the schools I think that are suffering at the minute, since St. Jarlaths amalgamated with St. Pats and stopped taking borders the football has been on a steady decline, a few years ago the Galway minor team would have a serious number of Jarlaths players, not anymore. St. Mary's have disappeared altogether, I think they've slipped down to senior B in fact.

Quote from: Duine Eile on April 05, 2016, 11:15:07 PM

Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on April 05, 2016, 10:58:39 PM
How much is the growth of Rugby affecting Galway?

Not a lot I wouldn't think, there's 3 senior football clubs within Galway city, St. Michael's, St. James', Salthill Knocknacarra, all of which are fairly competitive and would probably be in the top tier of senior football clubs in the county. It's the schools I think that are suffering at the minute, since St. Jarlaths amalgamated with St. Pats and stopped taking borders the football has been on a steady decline, a few years ago the Galway minor team would have a serious number of Jarlaths players, not anymore. St. Mary's have disappeared altogether, I think they've slipped down to senior B in fact.

In contrast St. Geralds - Castlebar was a joke for decades in regards to even competing in the College 'A' Competitions.  Decent Coaches, pitches and structure changed all that. With that success, better footballers are attracted to the College. That said Jarlaths have won a few titles lately! And these lads should be senior level or close now! So is this the problem?

Quote from: From the Bunker on April 05, 2016, 11:30:12 PM

Quote from: Duine Eile on April 05, 2016, 11:15:07 PM

Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on April 05, 2016, 10:58:39 PM
How much is the growth of Rugby affecting Galway?

Not a lot I wouldn't think, there's 3 senior football clubs within Galway city, St. Michael's, St. James', Salthill Knocknacarra, all of which are fairly competitive and would probably be in the top tier of senior football clubs in the county. It's the schools I think that are suffering at the minute, since St. Jarlaths amalgamated with St. Pats and stopped taking borders the football has been on a steady decline, a few years ago the Galway minor team would have a serious number of Jarlaths players, not anymore. St. Mary's have disappeared altogether, I think they've slipped down to senior B in fact.

In contrast St. Geralds - Castlebar was a joke for decades in regards to even competing in the College 'A' Competitions.  Decent Coaches, pitches and structure changed all that. With that success, better footballers are attracted to the College. That said Jarlaths have won a few titles lately! And these lads should be senior level or close now! So is this the problem?

17/18 years ago Davitt College were probably stronger than St. Geralds. The Dillons and Paul Cody would have been in Davitt. Mayo never had a super school. Players were dispersed around local schools. When I was a kid in St. Muredach's, in one of our better teams, Liam McHale, Aidan McHale and others were playing in the local teck. When we played Jarlath's they had Ballina lads like Niall Brennan and Kevin McStay playing with them, as well as Padraig Brogan and Patrick Corcoran from just out the road in Knockmore! If we had those we could have been winning stuff.
Very few local Tuam lads made the Jarlath's teams. In fact Jarlath's probably underachieved with the resources they had! I have a Jarlath's team from about 15 years ago where there wasn t 2 players from the same club and more than a third of the team were not from Galway.

Jarlaths always had a few boarders playing sure enough.
Saying that the last 2 Hogan Cup winning teams in 1994 & 2002 were almost entirely made up of Galway lads.
Jarlaths have had a few tough seasons at senior level but I don't think we should be writing obituaries for them just yet.
They will still be very competitive over the coming years.
Other Galway schools need to get their act together though.

Quote from: galwayman on April 06, 2016, 12:27:10 AM
Jarlaths always had a few boarders playing sure enough.
Saying that the last 2 Hogan Cup winning teams in 1994 & 2002 were almost entirely made up of Galway lads.
Jarlaths have had a few tough seasons at senior level but I don't think we should be writing obituaries for them just yet.
They will still be very competitive over the coming years.
Other Galway schools need to get their act together though.

Not writing obituraries or anything. But Jarlath's now are no longer backboned by outsiders.
I remember that team that I was talking about had Ahern and Finneran from Roscommon. Kavanagh from Kildare and Kilcoyne from Mayo. All players who were able to play serious senior county football. The goalkeeper Donoghue and Gary Sice are the only 2 Galway lads that I can recall that had serious careers with Galway from that team.
Even back in the day when I was about they had the Mayo lads ( likes of Brogan and Mark Butler from Mayo made the best ever Jarlath's 15 for their millinium I think) , Roscommon lads and even a McGettigan from Donegal. We were scrabbling about from local lads. Some of the better Ballina and Knockmore lads (the local senior clubs) were in Jarlath's.

Quote from: moysider on April 06, 2016, 01:14:00 AM

Quote from: galwayman on April 06, 2016, 12:27:10 AM
Jarlaths always had a few boarders playing sure enough.
Saying that the last 2 Hogan Cup winning teams in 1994 & 2002 were almost entirely made up of Galway lads.
Jarlaths have had a few tough seasons at senior level but I don't think we should be writing obituaries for them just yet.
They will still be very competitive over the coming years.
Other Galway schools need to get their act together though.

Not writing obituraries or anything. But Jarlath's now are no longer backboned by outsiders.
I remember that team that I was talking about had Ahern and Finneran from Roscommon. Kavanagh from Kildare and Kilcoyne from Mayo. All players who were able to play serious senior county football. The goalkeeper Donoghue and Gary Sice are the only 2 Galway lads that I can recall that had serious careers with Galway from that team.
Even back in the day when I was about they had the Mayo lads ( likes of Brogan and Mark Butler from Mayo made the best ever Jarlath's 15 for their millinium I think) , Roscommon lads and even a McGettigan from Donegal. We were scrabbling about from local lads. Some of the better Ballina and Knockmore lads (the local senior clubs) were in Jarlath's.

A lot of the Knockmore lads would have gone to Foxford Secondary School.

Quote from: moysider on April 06, 2016, 01:14:00 AM

Quote from: galwayman on April 06, 2016, 12:27:10 AM
Jarlaths always had a few boarders playing sure enough.
Saying that the last 2 Hogan Cup winning teams in 1994 & 2002 were almost entirely made up of Galway lads.
Jarlaths have had a few tough seasons at senior level but I don't think we should be writing obituaries for them just yet.
They will still be very competitive over the coming years.
Other Galway schools need to get their act together though.

Not writing obituraries or anything. But Jarlath's now are no longer backboned by outsiders.
I remember that team that I was talking about had Ahern and Finneran from Roscommon. Kavanagh from Kildare and Kilcoyne from Mayo. All players who were able to play serious senior county football. The goalkeeper Donoghue and Gary Sice are the only 2 Galway lads that I can recall that had serious careers with Galway from that team.
Even back in the day when I was about they had the Mayo lads ( likes of Brogan and Mark Butler from Mayo made the best ever Jarlath's 15 for their millinium I think) , Roscommon lads and even a McGettigan from Donegal. We were scrabbling about from local lads. Some of the better Ballina and Knockmore lads (the local senior clubs) were in Jarlath's.

I think you're combining a few teams there Moy! Gary Sice was on the 02 team that had Michael Meehan, Darren Mullahy, John Devane, Cillin de Paor, Ger Aherne and those lads, Donoghue was gone a couple of years at that stage. That was the year they had the 2 fantastic battles with Declan O'Sullivan and Colaiste an Sceilge in Limerick.

Galway have won 4 u21 All Irelands since 2002 and haven't won a Championship game in Croker in that time, that is appalling.

As someone who is looking from afar its hard to know whats going wrong with Galway but we're obviously producing talented players but turning them into good Senior players is proving a problem. I can only see 2 players from the 2011 & 2013 team in Comer & Walsh that may develop into really top players. 

If in 2001 we'd be told we'd win 4 u21 All Irelands in in the next 12 years but wouldn't win a game in Croker in that time you'd have laughed at it, it doesn't make any logical sense.

I haven't a clue but how many of the 2011 & 2013 but how of the players are with senior clubs? Off the top of my head Flynn & Cummins aren't, not sure about anyone else.

I've always been surprised that other counties don't copy Kerry's divisional championship, it sure is working for them in terms of producing county players and even Junior & intermediate club AI's as many of these players are exposed to a higher level of football.

It took Galway ages to adopt to pukey blanket football. Other counties with a few all Irelands such as Down and Meath have had the same problem . There was a lot of foostering with managers like big Joe that didn't work out.  Mayo got their act together. 

I think maybe the footballers have the thing the hurlers have. A large pick of good players but no coherent system to develop them.

Footballers don't have that Seaf. It's hard to know whether to be angrier with the hurling scene where a multitude of good players are wasted or with the football set-up where few good players are emerging. The likes of Niall Burke, Cathal Mannion, Jason Flynn, Conor Cooney, Conor Whelan, Glennon, Jonny Glynn etc. mightn't yet or ever be good enough to win an AI but can you even name their big ball equivalent in the county?

Quote from: mouview on April 06, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
Footballers don't have that Seaf. It's hard to know whether to be angrier with the hurling scene where a multitude of good players are wasted or with the football set-up where few good players are emerging. The likes of Niall Burke, Cathal Mannion, Jason Flynn, Conor Cooney, Conor Whelan, Glennon, Jonny Glynn etc. mightn't yet or ever be good enough to win an AI but can you even name their big ball equivalent in the county?

The hurling case is worse, Mo.  I will see if I can dig out a 2005 IT article about Galway hurling's embarrassment of riches and inability to turn into a senior team. They are ok up to u21 but it gets very vague afterwards . At least AC tried to change that.   
The footballers have used and dropped an awful lot of good young lads in the last 10 years.

Eg 2009 league
GALWAY : P Doherty; N Coyne, F Hanley, D Burke; G Bradshaw (0-2) , D Blake, D Mullahy; J Bergin, B Cullinane; S Armstrong (0-1), P Joyce (0-1) , M Lydon; D Dunleavy (0-2), M Meehan (1-9, three frees), N Joyce (0-1). Subs : D Meehan for D Mullahy (23 mins inj), F Breathnach for N Joyce (25 mins), M Clancy for F Breathnach (50 mins), G Sice for N Coyne (53 mins), D Reilly for M Lydon (63 mins)

2011 league
GALWAY: A Faherty (0-1, a 45); A Burke, C Forde, J Duane; G O'Donnell, G Higgins, G Sice; J Bergin, F Hanley (0-1); F Breathnach (0-1), O Concannon (0-1 free), C Kenny; C Bane (0-5, two frees), P Conroy (0-2), M Clancy (0-2). Subs: J Ryan for P Conroy (53 mins), D Blake for F Breathnach (62 mins).

2013 league
Galway: Manus Breathnach; Gary Sweeney, Finian Hanley, Johnny Duane; Garreth Bradshaw, Gary O'Donnell, Gary Sice (0-01); Niall Coleman (0-01), Anthony Griffin; Michael Boyle, Paul Conroy (0-03, 0-02 free), Seán Denvir; Eoin Concannon, Michael Meehan (0-01, free), Michael Martin (0-04, 0-03 frees).
Sub: Fionntán Ó'Curráin for Griffin, Seán Armstrong for Concannon, Conor Doherty for Denvir, Danny Cummins for Martin, Keith Kelly for Bradshaw

2014 championship
GALWAY: T Healy; 2 D O'Neill, 3 F Hanley, 4 J Moore; 5 G Bradshaw (0-2), 6 G O'Donnell, 7 P Varley; 8 F O'Curraoin, 9 T Flynn (1-0); 10 M Lundy (1-1), 14 P Conroy (0-1), 23 J O'Brien; 13 M Martin, 11 S Walsh (0-5, three frees), 15 D Cummins.
Substitutes: 22 S Armstrong for D Cummins (half-time), 25 D Comer (0-1) for J O'Brien (half-time), 12 K Kelly for J Moore (48 mins inj), 24 E Hoare for M Martin (56 mins), 20 C Mulryan for P Varley (67 min),

2016 league
Galway: M Breathnach; D Wynne (0-1), D Kyne, C Sweeney; L Silke, G O'Donnell, G Bradshaw; T Flynn, P Conroy; E Brannigan (0-2), P Sweeney (1-0), G Sice (0-3,3f); S Walsh (0-4,1f, '45), D Cummins (0-1), D Comer (0-1). Subs: J Heaney for D Cummins (48); S Denvir for G Sice (61); E Hoare for E Brannigan (70).

Winning is about developing talent and moulding it and bringing it on and Galway can't really do that in either code right now . When you can't do it it is like when you play Monopoly and have to sell all your property and start again with nothing over and over again.

The Mayo lads are a good example of how to do it even if the final execution has been poor   

Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2016, 11:53:52 AM
Galway have won 4 u21 All Irelands since 2002 and haven't won a Championship game in Croker in that time, that is appalling.

As someone who is looking from afar its hard to know whats going wrong with Galway but we're obviously producing talented players but turning them into good Senior players is proving a problem. I can only see 2 players from the 2011 & 2013 team in Comer & Walsh that may develop into really top players. 

If in 2001 we'd be told we'd win 4 u21 All Irelands in in the next 12 years but wouldn't win a game in Croker in that time you'd have laughed at it, it doesn't make any logical sense.

I haven't a clue but how many of the 2011 & 2013 but how of the players are with senior clubs? Off the top of my head Flynn & Cummins aren't, not sure about anyone else.

I've always been surprised that other counties don't copy Kerry's divisional championship, it sure is working for them in terms of producing county players and even Junior & intermediate club AI's as many of these players are exposed to a higher level of football.

Of the team that started the last day:
Maghnus Breathnach, David Wynne, Declan Kyne, Gareth Bradshaw, Tom Flynn, Danny Cummins, Shane Walsh will all be playing intermediate club football this year.

Quote from: moysider on April 06, 2016, 01:14:00 AM

Quote from: galwayman on April 06, 2016, 12:27:10 AM
Jarlaths always had a few boarders playing sure enough.
Saying that the last 2 Hogan Cup winning teams in 1994 & 2002 were almost entirely made up of Galway lads.
Jarlaths have had a few tough seasons at senior level but I don't think we should be writing obituaries for them just yet.
They will still be very competitive over the coming years.
Other Galway schools need to get their act together though.

Not writing obituraries or anything. But Jarlath's now are no longer backboned by outsiders.

Jarlath's were never backboned by outsiders. They were always backboned by Galway lads and there might be a couple of non Galway lads on the team any given year. Some years a few more. Some years hardly any. I played senior against Jarlath's for 3 years back when they still took boarders and they never had more than one or two outsiders on the team any of those years. I think the importance of outsiders to Jarlath's is probably somewhat exaggerated. It was a factor in their success but not a major one. As was mentioned their last 2 Hogan Cup winning teams were almost exclusively Galway lads. The difference being Jarlath's attracted lads from all over north and east Galway and a few from west Galway as well. Nowadays with the emergence of schools like Holy Rosary Mountbellew, Athenry, Claregalway and Oranmore. Young lads that would have gone to Jarlath's in the past now go to these local schools. Jarlath's would have hoovered up players from football mad areas like Mountbellew, Moylough and Caltra (The Meehan's for example) but those lads now go to Holy Rosary rather than Jarlath's. Result being Jarlath's are not as strong as they once were while a school like Holy Rosary have won the Senior B two years on the trot.

Quote from: Duine Eile on April 06, 2016, 02:46:36 PM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2016, 11:53:52 AM
Galway have won 4 u21 All Irelands since 2002 and haven't won a Championship game in Croker in that time, that is appalling.

As someone who is looking from afar its hard to know whats going wrong with Galway but we're obviously producing talented players but turning them into good Senior players is proving a problem. I can only see 2 players from the 2011 & 2013 team in Comer & Walsh that may develop into really top players. 

If in 2001 we'd be told we'd win 4 u21 All Irelands in in the next 12 years but wouldn't win a game in Croker in that time you'd have laughed at it, it doesn't make any logical sense.

I haven't a clue but how many of the 2011 & 2013 but how of the players are with senior clubs? Off the top of my head Flynn & Cummins aren't, not sure about anyone else.

I've always been surprised that other counties don't copy Kerry's divisional championship, it sure is working for them in terms of producing county players and even Junior & intermediate club AI's as many of these players are exposed to a higher level of football.

Of the team that started the last day:
Maghnus Breathnach, David Wynne, Declan Kyne, Gareth Bradshaw, Tom Flynn, Danny Cummins, Shane Walsh will all be playing intermediate club football this year.

Sorry I meant those who played in either final who are not on the panel now and play for clubs who aren't senior football, perhaps not playing that level of football is a reason for their lack of progress. I thought Moycullen won the Intermediate Championship last year so Wynne & Bradshaw will be playing Senior championship?

Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2016, 05:56:34 PM

Quote from: Duine Eile on April 06, 2016, 02:46:36 PM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2016, 11:53:52 AM
Galway have won 4 u21 All Irelands since 2002 and haven't won a Championship game in Croker in that time, that is appalling.

As someone who is looking from afar its hard to know whats going wrong with Galway but we're obviously producing talented players but turning them into good Senior players is proving a problem. I can only see 2 players from the 2011 & 2013 team in Comer & Walsh that may develop into really top players. 

If in 2001 we'd be told we'd win 4 u21 All Irelands in in the next 12 years but wouldn't win a game in Croker in that time you'd have laughed at it, it doesn't make any logical sense.

I haven't a clue but how many of the 2011 & 2013 but how of the players are with senior clubs? Off the top of my head Flynn & Cummins aren't, not sure about anyone else.

I've always been surprised that other counties don't copy Kerry's divisional championship, it sure is working for them in terms of producing county players and even Junior & intermediate club AI's as many of these players are exposed to a higher level of football.

Of the team that started the last day:
Maghnus Breathnach, David Wynne, Declan Kyne, Gareth Bradshaw, Tom Flynn, Danny Cummins, Shane Walsh will all be playing intermediate club football this year.

Sorry I meant those who played in either final who are not on the panel now and play for clubs who aren't senior football, perhaps not playing that level of football is a reason for their lack of progress. I thought Moycullen won the Intermediate Championship last year so Wynne & Bradshaw will be playing Senior championship?

Actually you could be right, I included Walsh alright, Kilkerrin Clonberne made the drop this year but forgot about the lads that went up! Oops!

GALWAY: T Healy (Corofin); D Cunnane (St Michael's), J Shaughnessy (Ballinasloe), M Loughnane (St Gabriel's); P Varley (Cortoon), D Burke (Corofin), E Walsh (Moycullen); F Ó Curraoin (Micheal Breathnach), T Flynn (Athenry); C Mulryan (Cortoon), S Moran (Claregalway), D Comer (Annaghdown); S Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne), A Varley (Cortoon), I Burke (Corofin).
Subs for Galway: C Rabbitte (Kilkerrin-Clonberne) for Moran (47); J Healy (Annaghdown) for Healy (inj 50); P Ezergailis (Moycullen) for Cunnane (54); G Kelly (Williamstown) for Burke, S Maughan (St Michael's) for A Varley (both 59).

Galway team and subs from 2013 final. A fair few of them have been given their chance but never seemed to make any headway, Shaughnessy was on the panel last year, Mulryan was there under Alan Mulholland, Ian Burke was there but left, Daithi Burke went with the hurlers, Shane Maughan was given his chance in th FBD this year but didn't really make an impact. (Also plays his club football with Salthill now!)

2011 All Ireland team

M Breathnach, G Sweeney, C Forde, A Tierney, J Moore (0-02), J Duane, T Fahy, T Flynn, F O Curraoin, C Doherty (0-01), M Hehir (0-07, 4f), M Boyle (0-02, 1f), D Cummins (0-04), P Sweeney (1-00), E Monahan (1-00).
Subs: A Murphy for Sweeney, M Farragher for Monahan, B Flaherty for Boyle, C Halloran for Fahy, C Silke for Tierney.

This was a seriously talented team, even more so than the 2013 team I think. In fairness most of them have gotten the chance at senior level but for some reason their ability wasn't carried with them or they didn't have the right attitude, Mark Hehir, Micheal Boyle for example,  never seemed to spark quite as well for the seniors.