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Poll
Question: When does a wage become a 'good' wage?
Option 1: £400 p/w and over votes: 12
Option 2: £500 p/w and over votes: 17
Option 3: £600 p/w and over votes: 17
Option 4: £800 p/w and over votes: 15
Option 5: £1000 p/w and over votes: 15
Option 6: £1500 p/w and over votes: 6
Option 7: £2000 p/w and over votes: 10
Title: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Franko on February 05, 2016, 05:06:10 PM
OK folks.  We've been having a lot of career/job based discussion on here over the past few days.  During it I've heard people mention the phrase 'good money' a few times.  I'm just trying to get a feel for what, in everyone's eyes, would constitute 'good money'.  This is take home pay, which you have left in a week after taxation/national insurance/student loan repayments etc.  I.e. the figure in the bottom right hand corner of the payslip.  I've done it on a weekly basis as I think it's easier to envisage.

I'm in the wee 6, so have set the poll up in the Queen's Sterling but if we used an indicative exchange rate of e0.80 = £1 to try to level the playing field.  I appreciate that taxation levels are different north and south (NHS etc) but this is just a general indicator.

It's an anonymous poll so please leave egos at the door.  For what it's worth, IMO, anyone taking home more than £500 p/w would be earning what could be termed 'good money'.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: FL/MAYO on February 05, 2016, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 05, 2016, 05:06:10 PM
OK folks.  We've been having a lot of career/job based discussion on here over the past few days.  During it I've heard people mention the phrase 'good money' a few times.  I'm just trying to get a feel for what, in everyone's eyes, would constitute 'good money'.  This is take home pay, which you have left in a week after taxation/national insurance/student loan repayments etc.  I.e. the figure in the bottom right hand corner of the payslip.  I've done it on a weekly basis as I think it's easier to envisage.

I'm in the wee 6, so have set the poll up in the Queen's Sterling but if we used an indicative exchange rate of e0.80 = £1 to try to level the playing field.  I appreciate that taxation levels are different north and south (NHS etc) but this is just a general indicator.

It's an anonymous poll so please leave egos at the door.  For what it's worth, IMO, anyone taking home more than £500 p/w would be earning what could be termed 'good money
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Would that take home wage be for a single person?
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Franko on February 05, 2016, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on February 05, 2016, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 05, 2016, 05:06:10 PM
OK folks.  We've been having a lot of career/job based discussion on here over the past few days.  During it I've heard people mention the phrase 'good money' a few times.  I'm just trying to get a feel for what, in everyone's eyes, would constitute 'good money'.  This is take home pay, which you have left in a week after taxation/national insurance/student loan repayments etc.  I.e. the figure in the bottom right hand corner of the payslip.  I've done it on a weekly basis as I think it's easier to envisage.

I'm in the wee 6, so have set the poll up in the Queen's Sterling but if we used an indicative exchange rate of e0.80 = £1 to try to level the playing field.  I appreciate that taxation levels are different north and south (NHS etc) but this is just a general indicator.

It's an anonymous poll so please leave egos at the door.  For what it's worth, IMO, anyone taking home more than £500 p/w would be earning what could be termed 'good money
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Would that take home wage be for a single person?

Yeah, should have said that. I'm not referring to household income, just a single wage.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2016, 08:09:46 PM
Good money depends on where you live and how much a house costs
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Orior on February 05, 2016, 08:27:59 PM
Dear Franko,

I wouldn't have went with those categories. Instead I would have used:

1) €0 - €400
2) €401 - €600
3) €601 - €800
etc
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: The Iceman on February 05, 2016, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2016, 08:09:46 PM
Good money depends on where you live and how much a house costs
Totally agree - depends on cost of living, cost of a house... one mans struggle would be a kings ransom elsewhere...

The minimum wage in Seattle is $15 per hour. That works out to about 21 grand sterling per year.
I'd say that money isn't bad in parts of ireland? it wouldn't keep you here with taxes and medical

Was chatting a QS friend earlier and he was offered a good job close to home or the same job in dublin for 12K extra  - but that 3 hours round trip plus wear and tear on the car wouldn't be worth the extra money..its all relative i think
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Franko on February 05, 2016, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 05, 2016, 08:27:59 PM
Dear Franko,

I wouldn't have went with those categories. Instead I would have used:

1) €0 - €400
2) €401 - €600
3) €601 - €800
etc

I thought about that. The reason I went for the categories I did were because I thought that, in all honesty, nobody would determine less than £400 p/w as being good money and similarly, I didn't think that anyone would argue that someone taking home more than £1000 p/w wasn't making a good wage.  I guess I figured that the answer would have lay somewhere in between those limits.  I appreciate that these things are all relative, but everyone will have a figure in their head, that if they heard, would say, "Jeez, that's a good wage".  I wanted to find out where that figure lay for the boarders.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Franko on February 05, 2016, 08:56:34 PM
Edit:

I've added another couple of options.  Over £2k p/w take home pay is comfortably into the six-figure salary bracket so I wouldn't see any point in anything higher.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: LeoMc on February 05, 2016, 09:52:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 05, 2016, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 05, 2016, 08:27:59 PM
Dear Franko,

I wouldn't have went with those categories. Instead I would have used:

1) €0 - €400
2) €401 - €600
3) €601 - €800
etc

I thought about that. The reason I went for the categories I did were because I thought that, in all honesty, nobody would determine less than £400 p/w as being good money and similarly, I didn't think that anyone would argue that someone taking home more than £1000 p/w wasn't making a good wage.  I guess I figured that the answer would have lay somewhere in between those limits.  I appreciate that these things are all relative, but everyone will have a figure in their head, that if they heard, would say, "Jeez, that's a good wage".  I wanted to find out where that figure lay for the boarders.
Are you asking what we think is good money or what we earn. Most people would count a bit more than they are getting as good money.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: FL/MAYO on February 05, 2016, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2016, 08:09:46 PM
Good money depends on where you live and how much a house costs

Seafoid, what would you consider to be good money for a family of 4 to live comfortably in the Galway/Mayo area. I know its like asking how long is a piece of string but in your best estimate what would you consider to be good money in this scenario?
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Itchy on February 06, 2016, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on February 05, 2016, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2016, 08:09:46 PM
Good money depends on where you live and how much a house costs

Seafoid, what would you consider to be good money for a family of 4 to live comfortably in the Galway/Mayo area. I know its like asking how long is a piece of string but in your best estimate what would you consider to be good money in this scenario?

Countryside or in the town. Galway city is expensive, a lot of people commute from Mayo as house prices are much cheaper. If you live in rural parts you'd prob want to be on 70k gross per annum between u and spouse.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2016, 08:39:14 AM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on February 05, 2016, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2016, 08:09:46 PM
Good money depends on where you live and how much a house costs

Seafoid, what would you consider to be good money for a family of 4 to live comfortably in the Galway/Mayo area. I know its like asking how long is a piece of string but in your best estimate what would you consider to be good money in this scenario?
A house is around 200K I think. Not sure about health insurance but I think 700 a week for a couple would be a good start although that is open to correction.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2016, 08:40:08 AM
Sometimes any love is good love and any money is good money
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Puckoon on February 06, 2016, 09:22:20 AM
Honest money goes further. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Franko on February 06, 2016, 09:23:06 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 05, 2016, 09:52:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 05, 2016, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 05, 2016, 08:27:59 PM
Dear Franko,

I wouldn't have went with those categories. Instead I would have used:

1) €0 - €400
2) €401 - €600
3) €601 - €800
etc

I thought about that. The reason I went for the categories I did were because I thought that, in all honesty, nobody would determine less than £400 p/w as being good money and similarly, I didn't think that anyone would argue that someone taking home more than £1000 p/w wasn't making a good wage.  I guess I figured that the answer would have lay somewhere in between those limits.  I appreciate that these things are all relative, but everyone will have a figure in their head, that if they heard, would say, "Jeez, that's a good wage".  I wanted to find out where that figure lay for the boarders.
Are you asking what we think is good money or what we earn. Most people would count a bit more than they are getting as good money.

What you think is good money.  I don't think I could have been much clearer than that.  Don't agree with the part in bold at all.  But if that's the way you think, then vote for it.  It's an anonymous poll of an anonymous forum so you won't be giving too much away.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2016, 01:39:19 PM
I see person has take home pay of 2 grand a week!!! Nice , would like that
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Minder on February 06, 2016, 03:40:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2016, 01:39:19 PM
I see person has take home pay of 2 grand a week!!! Nice , would like that

No the question is what constitutes "good money", not what your salary is.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2016, 04:46:22 PM
Its what you pay out after earning that..... The more ya have the more you spend!
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 07, 2016, 11:10:31 AM
before or after tax?

at least ye don't have the USC
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Franko on February 07, 2016, 04:22:40 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 07, 2016, 11:10:31 AM
before or after tax?

at least ye don't have the USC

After
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: haranguerer on February 08, 2016, 08:27:11 AM
This is going well   :D
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: LeoMc on February 08, 2016, 09:06:16 AM
Quote from: Franko on February 06, 2016, 09:23:06 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 05, 2016, 09:52:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 05, 2016, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 05, 2016, 08:27:59 PM
Dear Franko,

I wouldn't have went with those categories. Instead I would have used:

1) €0 - €400
2) €401 - €600
3) €601 - €800
etc

I thought about that. The reason I went for the categories I did were because I thought that, in all honesty, nobody would determine less than £400 p/w as being good money and similarly, I didn't think that anyone would argue that someone taking home more than £1000 p/w wasn't making a good wage.  I guess I figured that the answer would have lay somewhere in between those limits.  I appreciate that these things are all relative, but everyone will have a figure in their head, that if they heard, would say, "Jeez, that's a good wage".  I wanted to find out where that figure lay for the boarders.
Are you asking what we think is good money or what we earn. Most people would count a bit more than they are getting as good money.

What you think is good money.  I don't think I could have been much clearer than that. Don't agree with the part in bold at all.  But if that's the way you think, then vote for it.  It's an anonymous poll of an anonymous forum so you won't be giving too much away.

Just making the same point a few others have, that "Good money" is a relative thing.
If a man is taking home £350 per week and got offered £400 he would see it as good money. IF a man was taking home £400 and got offered £450 he would see it as good money.

What is viewed as good money can depend as much on current expectations as well as on the Industry a man is in and where he lives.

Good money for a C++ programmer (the nerds can probably give a better example of what is in demand) living in SF London or Dublin would be very different from good money for a Joiner or Tiler in Cavan who has his house paid for 10 years ago and been getting by for the last 3 or 4 years.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Franko on February 08, 2016, 09:19:42 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 08, 2016, 09:06:16 AM
Quote from: Franko on February 06, 2016, 09:23:06 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 05, 2016, 09:52:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 05, 2016, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 05, 2016, 08:27:59 PM
Dear Franko,

I wouldn't have went with those categories. Instead I would have used:

1) €0 - €400
2) €401 - €600
3) €601 - €800
etc

I thought about that. The reason I went for the categories I did were because I thought that, in all honesty, nobody would determine less than £400 p/w as being good money and similarly, I didn't think that anyone would argue that someone taking home more than £1000 p/w wasn't making a good wage.  I guess I figured that the answer would have lay somewhere in between those limits.  I appreciate that these things are all relative, but everyone will have a figure in their head, that if they heard, would say, "Jeez, that's a good wage".  I wanted to find out where that figure lay for the boarders.
Are you asking what we think is good money or what we earn. Most people would count a bit more than they are getting as good money.

What you think is good money.  I don't think I could have been much clearer than that. Don't agree with the part in bold at all.  But if that's the way you think, then vote for it.  It's an anonymous poll of an anonymous forum so you won't be giving too much away.

Just making the same point a few others have, that "Good money" is a relative thing.
If a man is taking home £350 per week and got offered £400 he would see it as good money. IF a man was taking home £400 and got offered £450 he would see it as good money.

What is viewed as good money can depend as much on current expectations as well as on the Industry a man is in and where he lives.

Good money for a C++ programmer (the nerds can probably give a better example of what is in demand) living in SF London or Dublin would be very different from good money for a Joiner or Tiler in Cavan who has his house paid for 10 years ago and been getting by for the last 3 or 4 years.

Obviously I know this, but vote for whatever that figure is for you.  Then we'll maybe get a feel for what the board thinks.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: seafoid on February 08, 2016, 09:28:46 AM
Franko

For a more complete view you really would need to consult "readers' wives". They spend a lot of the money.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: LeoMc on February 08, 2016, 10:30:06 AM
Quote from: Franko on February 08, 2016, 09:19:42 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 08, 2016, 09:06:16 AM
Quote from: Franko on February 06, 2016, 09:23:06 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 05, 2016, 09:52:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 05, 2016, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 05, 2016, 08:27:59 PM
Dear Franko,

I wouldn't have went with those categories. Instead I would have used:

1) €0 - €400
2) €401 - €600
3) €601 - €800
etc

I thought about that. The reason I went for the categories I did were because I thought that, in all honesty, nobody would determine less than £400 p/w as being good money and similarly, I didn't think that anyone would argue that someone taking home more than £1000 p/w wasn't making a good wage.  I guess I figured that the answer would have lay somewhere in between those limits.  I appreciate that these things are all relative, but everyone will have a figure in their head, that if they heard, would say, "Jeez, that's a good wage".  I wanted to find out where that figure lay for the boarders.
Are you asking what we think is good money or what we earn. Most people would count a bit more than they are getting as good money.

What you think is good money.  I don't think I could have been much clearer than that. Don't agree with the part in bold at all.  But if that's the way you think, then vote for it.  It's an anonymous poll of an anonymous forum so you won't be giving too much away.

Just making the same point a few others have, that "Good money" is a relative thing.
If a man is taking home £350 per week and got offered £400 he would see it as good money. IF a man was taking home £400 and got offered £450 he would see it as good money.

What is viewed as good money can depend as much on current expectations as well as on the Industry a man is in and where he lives.

Good money for a C++ programmer (the nerds can probably give a better example of what is in demand) living in SF London or Dublin would be very different from good money for a Joiner or Tiler in Cavan who has his house paid for 10 years ago and been getting by for the last 3 or 4 years.

Obviously I know this, but vote for whatever that figure is for you.  Then we'll maybe get a feel for what the board thinks.
Done
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: FL/MAYO on February 08, 2016, 06:03:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 06, 2016, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on February 05, 2016, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2016, 08:09:46 PM
Good money depends on where you live and how much a house costs

Seafoid, what would you consider to be good money for a family of 4 to live comfortably in the Galway/Mayo area. I know its like asking how long is a piece of string but in your best estimate what would you consider to be good money in this scenario?

Countryside or in the town. Galway city is expensive, a lot of people commute from Mayo as house prices are much cheaper. If you live in rural parts you'd prob want to be on 70k gross per annum between u and spouse.
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Countryside but not to rural either. Probably in the Westport area or within 10 miles of Galway city. I'm on a 2 year countdown so trying to get a feel for what to expect when we move back.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: FL/MAYO on February 08, 2016, 08:01:52 PM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on February 08, 2016, 06:03:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 06, 2016, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on February 05, 2016, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2016, 08:09:46 PM
Good money depends on where you live and how much a house costs

Seafoid, what would you consider to be good money for a family of 4 to live comfortably in the Galway/Mayo area. I know its like asking how long is a piece of string but in your best estimate what would you consider to be good money in this scenario?

Countryside or in the town. Galway city is expensive, a lot of people commute from Mayo as house prices are much cheaper. If you live in rural parts you'd prob want to be on 70k gross per annum between u and spouse.
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Countryside but not to rural either. Probably in the Westport area or within 10 miles of Galway city. I'm on a 2 year countdown so trying to get a feel for what to expect when we move back.
Title: Re: What is "Good Money"
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 08, 2016, 10:57:51 PM
Franko was VERY clear that he doesn't want actual salary details.