In an interview, Bernard Brogan claims that he did not expect that he would be nominated for the Footballer of the Year awards.
"Five years after I won one ... I probably didn't think I'd be back at that level again."
Will this humility brings him to the victory? What ya guys think? ;)
I'm more concerned about the Fermanagh Minors management tbh
What a strange thread.
Probably a lot less to do with humility, than a statement of fact. He didn't exactly set the world on fire last year, so I'd say that he is as surprised as everyone else, at the year that he has had.
Leave the lad alone! You implying he's being Big headed?
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 10, 2015, 12:03:18 AM
Leave the lad alone! You implying he's being Big headed?
Who? Bernard or Angus or maybe both.
Since Berno came on the scene as a regular, about 2007 or so, he has been incredibly consistent. even on bad days he chips in with a score or two and on good days he is unplayable at full forward. This year he has been a real team player - unselfish, making space for others. Even the day of the final, when nothing was sticking for him personally, he still got 0-2, and two other Dublin points were set up directly from turnovers he engineered.
To paraphrase the Ronan Clarke thread, if he played for Kerry you'd never hear the end of him. Legend.
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 10, 2015, 11:32:57 AM
Since Berno came on the scene as a regular, about 2007 or so, he has been incredibly consistent. even on bad days he chips in with a score or two and on good days he is unplayable at full forward. This year he has been a real team player - unselfish, making space for others. Even the day of the final, when nothing was sticking for him personally, he still got 0-2, and two other Dublin points were set up directly from turnovers he engineered.
To paraphrase the Ronan Clarke thread, if he played for Kerry you'd never hear the end of him. Legend.
He's from Dublin. We still don't hear the end of him.
I'd be talking about the kind of legendary status that guys like Dec O'Sullivan, the Gooch etc get accorded regularly. Berno i think is on a par with both of them in terms of influence he wields during a game, but it is rare enough that you'd see him get that respect. I think there is still a bit of the grudging "yerra he's only a fancy dan" thing going on.
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 10, 2015, 12:44:15 PM
I'd be talking about the kind of legendary status that guys like Dec O'Sullivan, the Gooch etc get accorded regularly. Berno i think is on a par with both of them in terms of influence he wields during a game, but it is rare enough that you'd see him get that respect. I think there is still a bit of the grudging "yerra he's only a fancy dan" thing going on.
Never saw that. Everyone knows Brogan is a class forward. I think you're creating a straw man to attack there.
The year he won it he wasn't the best player that year. Marty Clarke was robbed.
Syf, maybe i'm a bit oversensitive, but if we're going to look back at the first half of this decade being Dublin's (which we probably will) then he is an absolute key man in Dublin's development. But if I was to compare him to say, Peter Canavan, people would have an absolute stroke, even though there are parallels. For instance, maybe Berno's biggest year was 2010 when he carried us to an All Ireland semi on his back (after us being taken to extra time by Wexford and hammered by Meath) breaking the hoodoo that Tyrone had over us on the way - whilst Canavan never had a better year than 95, ending on a losing team, but creating the foundations for what came after.
the point is when people discuss best forwards of the last 20/25 years, Berno is rarely in the discussion, but I think he absolutely should be, in terms of influence alone.
Snoop, I'm sure you'll see by the above, that good and all as Marty was that year (and he was at a really high standard) I don't think Berno robbed him.
This is a GAA forum, is it not? BB is nominated for Player of The Year. Why is it strange to be discussing whether or not he will win the award, or just the player in general?
Agree 100% about the Kerry thing. If he was from Kerry, the likes of Spillane & Daragh O'Se etc would never shut up about him.
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 10, 2015, 01:14:56 PM
. But if I was to compare him to say, Peter Canavan, people would have an absolute stroke, even though there are parallels. For instance, maybe Berno's biggest year was 2010 when he carried us to an All Ireland semi on his back (after us being taken to extra time by Wexford and hammered by Meath) breaking the hoodoo that Tyrone had over us on the way - whilst Canavan never had a better year than 95, ending on a losing team, but creating the foundations for what came after.
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Quote from: Beffs on October 10, 2015, 07:56:23 PM
This is a GAA forum, is it not? BB is nominated for Player of The Year. Why is it strange to be discussing whether or not he will win the award, or just the player in general?
Agree 100% about the Kerry thing. If he was from Kerry, the likes of Spillane & Daragh O'Se etc would never shut up about him.
So Declan O'Sullivan and Gooch are great footballers because Spillane and Darragh O'Se says so, what a load of rubbish along with this Kerry thing.
No, because so many former Kerry players have media gigs, they get to control the agenda of what gets talked about, which in turn shapes peoples opinions on things. Which means that their own players get elevated to the levels of sainthood, that no other counties players ever will, no matter how good they are.
There are Kerry men with on both the live Sunday Game broadcasts and the evening high light show. And for the non RTE games, we have Daragh popping up on TV3, Setanta and Sky. Dara O'Cinneide hosts Seo Sport. Both Daragh & Marc have columns in the two most widely read news papers in the country. Need I go on? It's hardly rocket science.
Quote from: Beffs on October 10, 2015, 11:17:12 PM
No, because so many former Kerry players have media gigs, they get to control the agenda of what gets talked about, which in turn shapes peoples opinions on things. Which means that their own players get elevated to the levels of sainthood, that no other counties players ever will, no matter how good they are.
There are Kerry men with on both the live Sunday Game broadcasts and the evening high light show. And for the non RTE games, we have Daragh popping up on TV3, Setanta and Sky. Dara O'Cinneide hosts Seo Sport. Both Daragh & Marc have columns in the two most widely read news papers in the country. Need I go on? It's hardly rocket science.
The media is awash with Dubs too ffs. If you were talking about players from amost any of the other 30 you may have had a point but this is the pot calling the Sligo jersey black.
For me Bernard Brogan is one of the jewels of our games. Never shite talking, no dirty belts, beautiful kicking style, well spoken. A great role model for young players.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 11, 2015, 02:14:56 PM
For me Bernard Brogan is one of the jewels of our games. Never shite talking, no dirty belts, beautiful kicking style, well spoken. A great role model for young players.
+ 1
+2
Quality quality footballer. Mind seeing him kicking about ten points v k cokes in parnell park about 6 years ago in Dublin championship
Top top class
+3
He is a natural scoring forward, something that dublin teams usually lack
Great footballer
+3 +1
Class act Brogan.
+1
Brilliant in the Supervalu ads too.
+5
He has nice hair.
+6
He has many leather bound books and his apartment smells of rich mahogany.
+7 The white boots this year really accentuated his beautiful kicking style.
+6 hes not as good as alan
Quote from: rosnarun on October 13, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
+6 hes not as good as alan
agreed he isn't.
Alan is still the best.
He is a quality player and he does not have a reputation for theatrics.
Some put it down to his Kerry blood. If we could get him a flat in Dungannon would he transfer (purely for the hurling of course).
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 10, 2015, 11:32:57 AM
Since Berno came on the scene as a regular, about 2007 or so, he has been incredibly consistent. even on bad days he chips in with a score or two and on good days he is unplayable at full forward. This year he has been a real team player - unselfish, making space for others. Even the day of the final, when nothing was sticking for him personally, he still got 0-2, and two other Dublin points were set up directly from turnovers he engineered.
To paraphrase the Ronan Clarke thread, if he played for Kerry you'd never hear the end of him. Legend.
Why was he so (relatively) late making the breakthrough to the Dubs first 15?
Did his cruciate at19/20 from memory and then was squad member for a couple of seasons
Quote from: INDIANA on October 13, 2015, 10:42:07 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on October 13, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
+6 hes not as good as alan
agreed he isn't.
Alan is still the best.
Feck ya Indiana! You could have at least put a + whatever number it was! :P