Just heard Philly and Jim Gavin intreviewed on RTE radio this morning. Marty asked him to expand on the incident involving Kieran Donaghy. He stated that the ball was there to be won; it was a wet day with slippery conditions etc etc and concluded by saying that what happens on the field should stay on the field. Jim didnt add anything either to what we all saw on our screens. I think Philly has stepped over the line on this occasion and he represents a cloud over an otherwise great victory by a great Dublin team
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=FafVtHWn4X8
I heard the interview. Marty let him away with talking utter shite about the incident. RTE only seem happy to lambast if the offender is from Ulster.
It was a disgraceful act and as low as anything seen this year. The Sunday game crew glossed over it "His hand was somewhere it shouldn't have been" and "We shouldn't dwell on it on a night like this"
Sure Brian Sheehan punched MDMA aswell and nothing was made of it. A punch is a punch apparently.
Tadhg Kennelly was lauded and considered made of the right stuff when he decided to take out Nicholas Murphy with a terrible pre meditated challenge at the start of an all Ireland ..................... Usual dub bashing here
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 21, 2015, 10:42:51 AM
Tadhg Kennelly was lauded and considered made of the right stuff when he decided to take out Nicholas Murphy with a terrible pre meditated challenge at the start of an all Ireland ..................... Usual dub bashing here
I don't think so, he was rightly criticized by the majority of people. Gouging is wrong full stop and he should be rightly brought to book over it
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 21, 2015, 10:42:51 AM
Tadhg Kennelly was lauded and considered made of the right stuff when he decided to take out Nicholas Murphy with a terrible pre meditated challenge at the start of an all Ireland ..................... Usual dub bashing here
So you think he done nothing wrong yesterday then?
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 21, 2015, 10:42:51 AM
Tadhg Kennelly was lauded and considered made of the right stuff when he decided to take out Nicholas Murphy with a terrible pre meditated challenge at the start of an all Ireland ..................... Usual dub bashing here
Maybe by Kerry people? Not by most others!
No dub bashing going on here.
Just philly mcmahon bashing. There is a big difference.
Eye gouging is a sickening offence
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 21, 2015, 10:42:51 AM
Tadhg Kennelly was lauded and considered made of the right stuff when he decided to take out Nicholas Murphy with a terrible pre meditated challenge at the start of an all Ireland ..................... Usual dub bashing here
Tadhg Kenelly was not lauded at all . What he did was wrong and irresponsible.
There is no "dub bashing " here. One player did an awful act that is seen as a ferocious thing even in rugby.
Circling wagons and whattaboutery are pure cowardice
These threads only go one way.
Not one Dublin poster will admit what happened was wrong, instead it will just the usual of pointing out of other incidents that happened with other players from various counties.
The Dubs will call it dub bashing but in reality its not.
Eye gouging is a sc**bag thing to do end if, it be nice if everyone agreed on that rather than thinking its OK because some other player done something a few years ago.
Dublin were without doubt the team of the year but they aren't a team you could be fond of because of the nonsense they go on with.
Probably footballer of the year.
QuoteRegarding the incident with Donaghy, McMahon commented: "Look, it was a slippy day and the ball was on the ground to be challenged and I went down to challenge the ball, and he's a big lad so, trying to get around Kieran Donaghy is hard but... Yeah look, this is the heat of the battle.
"We'd like to say part of our culture is humility and the same with the Kerry lads. You know, what happened on the pitch stays on the pitch and we shook hands and that was the end of it."
When pressed further if there was any intention to get involved with Donaghy 'in any way', McMahon responded: "No, look it, this is Gaelic football and we're grown men. We play a physical sport and at the end of the day the result is what ends it and we shake hands and get on with it."
Some amount of horseshit there
Everyone defends their own players no matter what which is our nature but is wrong, however RTE is bang out of order with different standards of analysis for different teams. if that had been a Tyrone player their panelists would have went mental...
Footballer of the Year.
Quote from: longballin on September 21, 2015, 12:47:53 PM
Everyone defends their own players no matter what which is our nature but is wrong, however RTE is bang out of order with different standards of analysis for different teams. if that had been a Tyrone player their panelists would have went mental...
Yeah if it had been Justy McMahon instead of Philly McMahon it would definitely have got a different reaction. No question about it.
Quote from: An Watcher on September 21, 2015, 10:49:44 AM
Eye gouging is a sickening offence
It is and I'd never defend that player because I don't like him anyway.
However it's rich listening to Kerry commentators going on about it after Kennelly took Murphy out of it in 2009.
I thought the sunday game approach to the McMahon incident was bizarre , and incomparable to their approach in criticising other incidents throughout the year. Des took a hands off approach, while the 3 pundits looked uncomfortable and guarded in their responses. I wonder if any of the players who won their appeals, in the previously highlighted incidents , used in their defence that the RTE comments prejudiced the initial decisions of CCCC .?This would actually be a reasonable defence, as the coverage of the McCann incident , amounted to trial by television. Have they been warned from on high, that they should not make any comments that could prejudice a potential hearing .....therefore the bland " ah now , he might have had his hand somewhere where it shouldn't have been" . This appeared to be an agreed response, which none of the pundits appeared to be comfortable with.
I didn't watch the Sunday Game, on purpose, but if they glossed over that, as I'm reading, then the rank hypocrisy is terrible. As I said before, I accused Tyrone lads of paranoia, but sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and that should have been lambasted in the same manner as Sean Cavanagh/Tiernan McCann/General Tyrone nastiness.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 02:44:04 PM
I didn't watch the Sunday Game, on purpose, but if they glossed over that, as I'm reading, then the rank hypocrisy is terrible. As I said before, I accused Tyrone lads of paranoia, but sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and that should have been lambasted in the same manner as Sean Cavanagh/Tiernan McCann/General Tyrone nastiness.
I don't watch the Sunday Game.
But this isn't about the Sunday Game. It isn't about McCann or Tadhg Kenelly either. It is about whether a player committed a vicious and dangerous act or not.
Quote from: 6th sam on September 21, 2015, 02:42:14 PM
I thought the sunday game approach to the McMahon incident was bizarre , and incomparable to their approach in criticising other incidents throughout the year. Des took a hands off approach, while the 3 pundits looked uncomfortable and guarded in their responses. I wonder if any of the players who won their appeals, in the previously highlighted incidents , used in their defence that the RTE comments prejudiced the initial decisions of CCCC .?This would actually be a reasonable defence, as the coverage of the McCann incident , amounted to trial by television. Have they been warned from on high, that they should not make any comments that could prejudice a potential hearing .....therefore the bland " ah now , he might have had his hand somewhere where it shouldn't have been" . This appeared to be an agreed response, which none of the pundits appeared to be comfortable with.
agreed. McStay's reaction for me was the most interesting. I felt he definitely wanted to say more, but for whatever reason, seemed under instruction to bite his tongue.
if I've read the expression 'sour grapes' once today, I've read it a hundred times.
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Quote from: 6th sam on September 21, 2015, 02:42:14 PM
I thought the sunday game approach to the McMahon incident was bizarre , and incomparable to their approach in criticising other incidents throughout the year. Des took a hands off approach, while the 3 pundits looked uncomfortable and guarded in their responses. I wonder if any of the players who won their appeals, in the previously highlighted incidents , used in their defence that the RTE comments prejudiced the initial decisions of CCCC .?This would actually be a reasonable defence, as the coverage of the McCann incident , amounted to trial by television. Have they been warned from on high, that they should not make any comments that could prejudice a potential hearing .....therefore the bland " ah now , he might have had his hand somewhere where it shouldn't have been" . This appeared to be an agreed response, which none of the pundits appeared to be comfortable with.
agreed. McStay's reaction for me was the most interesting. I felt he definitely wanted to say more, but for whatever reason, seemed under instruction to bite his tongue.
Maybe he's biting his tongue after he received a threatening letter from a Sunday game colleagues solicitor a few years back - there was an incident on the pitch and McStay who was commentating asserted that there was no doubt about it and he had meant to assault the other player.
The Sunday Game boyos kept it hush because of the link up with the Dublin team at the victory banquet.
Remember it turned a bit ugly in 1997 between Ger Loughnane and Eamon Cregan on the Sunday Game. Immediately after the final whistle Loughnane had claimed it was the greatest game of hurling ever played. Cregan in his SG analysis pointed out a few flaws in the game and also made mention of a valid Tipp point that was waved wide.
When they went back over to the hotel Loughnane started to have a go at Cregan and at one stage claimed he was looking after his job in Tipperary with his biased analysis.
Had the pundits torn strips off McMahon there could have been a backlash over at the Gibson hotel and maybe some car crash tv viewing.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on September 21, 2015, 03:20:06 PM
The Sunday Game boyos kept it hush because of the link up with the Dublin team at the victory banquet.
Remember it turned a bit ugly in 1997 between Ger Loughnane and Eamon Cregan on the Sunday Game. Immediately after the final whistle Loughnane had claimed it was the greatest game of hurling ever played. Cregan in his SG analysis pointed out a few flaws in the game and also made mention of a valid Tipp point that was waved wide.
When they went back over to the hotel Loughnane started to have a go at Cregan and at one stage claimed he was looking after his job in Tipperary with his biased analysis.
Had the pundits torn strips off McMahon there could have been a backlash over at the Gibson hotel and maybe some car crash tv viewing.
At least that might have been more exciting than the match itself was.
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Not nice. He will be getting a letter. 3 match ban and then the usual appeal.
http://www.sportsfile.com/id/1058289/
Gouging and car jackings the mans a thug :o
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http://www.sportsfile.com/id/1058289/
Gouging and car jackings the mans a thug :o
He just hit that kid with the car!!!!
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http://www.sportsfile.com/id/1058289/
Gouging and car jackings the mans a thug :o
He just hit that kid with the car!!!!
Typical 'Mun insurance scam!!!
Every winning team seems to have a villian, and we'd all secretly love for them to be on our team
Currently 12/1 for footballer of the year and if its based on performance he should win it. Kept AOS under wraps twice and kept Gooch quiet and outscored him yesterday as well as being probably the highest scoring man marker in the game. If it wasn't for the unsavoury incidents he'd be a shoo in for POTY but he probably won't win it now because of the bad PR. Like McMenamin and Galvin though he will always be a player who plays on the edge and sometimes who goes over the line.
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He'd have been better off saying nothing on the radio this morning instead of ""Look, it was a slippy day and the ball was on the ground to be challenged and I went down to challenge the ball," Is that the best excuse he could come up with ?
A low act. But what sanction would suffice? I mean the CCC or whoever could make up an 8 wk ban for McCann in the middle of the championship, nothing worthwhile would be any use at this stage of the year. Saying that it was rotten, absolutely rotten.
Donaghy says it's over now and left on the pitch, anyhow from that photo it looks like star is sticking his big head into philly's finger tip.
Was it Philly and Connolly that caused a near riot in a club championship a few years back ?
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Quote from: An Watcher on September 21, 2015, 10:49:44 AM
Eye gouging is a sickening offence
It is and I'd never defend that player because I don't like him anyway.
However it's rich listening to Kerry commentators going on about it after Kennelly took Murphy out of it in 2009.
Going by your logic nobody should comment on the matter at all, because every county has a player who did something wrong in the past....
one law for dubs another for tyrone etc typical southern bias
Any ban would apply to next years championship and not the league!
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
Quote from: delgany on September 21, 2015, 08:26:43 PM
Any ban would apply to next years championship and not the league!
missing a few games in the leinster championship is hardly punishment
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
O Carroll has never been sent off- doesn't count
Cooper weighs 11 stone and is a waif- I'd pick him with with one hand myself. - again doesn't count.
Kerry have O Mahony, Donaghy, Galvin, Maher, Crowley...........I could go on.
The most cynical team in the country and always have been.
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Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
O Carroll has never been sent off- doesn't count
Cooper weighs 11 stone and is a waif- I'd pick him with with one hand myself. - again doesn't count.
Kerry have O Mahony, Donaghy, Galvin, Maher, Crowley...........I could go on.
The most cynical team in the country and always have been.
O'Carroll is very good at it, that's why he doesn't get caught.
It doesn't matter what weight you are, Ricey wasn't 16 stone.
I wouldn't include Maher or Crowley on your list.
Dublin have won the most cynical team this year by some margin.
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Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
O Carroll has never been sent off- doesn't count
Cooper weighs 11 stone and is a waif- I'd pick him with with one hand myself. - again doesn't count.
Kerry have O Mahony, Donaghy, Galvin, Maher, Crowley...........I could go on.
The most cynical team in the country and always have been.
O'Carroll is very good at it, that's why he doesn't get caught.
It doesn't matter what weight you are, Ricey wasn't 16 stone.
I wouldn't include Maher or Crowley on your list.
Dublin have won the most cynical team this year by some margin.
I wouldn't agree. Rory O Carroll is the king of full backs. Bit of holding is as far as Rory goes. All defenders do that in CP.
Crowley wrestled Connolly three times to the ground yesterday in an effort to get him sent off.
Mc Mahon is a pup.
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Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
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Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:56:06 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
O Carroll has never been sent off- doesn't count
Cooper weighs 11 stone and is a waif- I'd pick him with with one hand myself. - again doesn't count.
Kerry have O Mahony, Donaghy, Galvin, Maher, Crowley...........I could go on.
The most cynical team in the country and always have been.
O'Carroll is very good at it, that's why he doesn't get caught.
It doesn't matter what weight you are, Ricey wasn't 16 stone.
I wouldn't include Maher or Crowley on your list.
Dublin have won the most cynical team this year by some margin.
I wouldn't agree. Rory O Carroll is the king of full backs. Bit of holding is as far as Rory goes. All defenders do that in CP.
Crowley wrestled Connolly three times to the ground yesterday in an effort to get him sent off.
Mc Mahon is a pup.
A bit of holding? He has his arms wrapped around his markey for 90% of the match.
But according to you Crowley is too small to be considered?
He's worse than a pup.
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
Not really to do with this but what players would you say from Mayo fit in this category?
(Maybe Keegan and COC?)
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Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
Not really to do with this but what players would you say from Mayo fit in this category?
(Maybe Keegan and COC?)
Our cynical players as the Kerry media painted us last year are
streetwise.
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
Not really to do with this but what players would you say from Mayo fit in this category?
(Maybe Keegan and COC?)
A Philly McMahon or Rory O'Carroll could have been the difference between winning no all Ireland's to winning as many as 3? Definitely 2013, Maybe 2012 and 2014. Thoughts?
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
Not really to do with this but what players would you say from Mayo fit in this category?
(Maybe Keegan and COC?)
Our cynical players as the Kerry media painted us last year are streetwise.
But who are they?
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
O Carroll has never been sent off- doesn't count
Cooper weighs 11 stone and is a waif- I'd pick him with with one hand myself. - again doesn't count.
Kerry have O Mahony, Donaghy, Galvin, Maher, Crowley...........I could go on.
The most cynical team in the country and always have been.
O'Carroll is very good at it, that's why he doesn't get caught.
It doesn't matter what weight you are, Ricey wasn't 16 stone.
I wouldn't include Maher or Crowley on your list.
Dublin have won the most cynical team this year by some margin.
I wouldn't agree. Rory O Carroll is the king of full backs. Bit of holding is as far as Rory goes. All defenders do that in CP.
Crowley wrestled Connolly three times to the ground yesterday in an effort to get him sent off.
Mc Mahon is a pup.
A bit of holding? He has his arms wrapped around his markey for 90% of the match.
But according to you Crowley is too small to be considered?
He's worse than a pup.
Rory doesn't engage in the dark arts. Every full back holds his man. It's a bullshit statement.
Mc mahon and Bastic I agree on. Johnny Cooper couldn't start a row with himself.
Crowley for Kerry is very cyncial. Spent the whole day yesterday goading Connolly.
Was listening to Off the Ball last week and Malachy Clerkin was on talking about an interview he had with Philly. I went and searched it out afterwards. Came across this gem of a quote, quite ironic after the box he got from O'Se in the semi:
"The sport is changing. Sometimes you hit lads and they don't get up as quick as they used to. It's evolved. I know that if I hit someone and he gets up and not a bother on him, then I know it's a battle. But if he stays on the ground – and I know it wasn't that sort of hit – I'll just shake my head and go, 'That's what the sport is now.' More and more, you see the second fella rather than the first."
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ballymun-s-philly-mcmahon-a-chip-off-the-old-block-1.1733998
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
Kerry ain't a clean team but they're not in Dublins league when it comes to the dirty stuff! It's been proven in this years championship.
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
Kerry ain't a clean team but they're not in Dublins league when it comes to the dirty stuff! It's been proven in this years championship.
No it hasn't. They repeatedly don't get punished like other counties because GAA officials have always bought into the pure football Kerry bolloxology. I can tell you first hand they have always had their Mafia Assassins
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
O Carroll has never been sent off- doesn't count
Cooper weighs 11 stone and is a waif- I'd pick him with with one hand myself. - again doesn't count.
Kerry have O Mahony, Donaghy, Galvin, Maher, Crowley...........I could go on.
The most cynical team in the country and always have been.
O'Carroll is very good at it, that's why he doesn't get caught.
It doesn't matter what weight you are, Ricey wasn't 16 stone.
I wouldn't include Maher or Crowley on your list.
Dublin have won the most cynical team this year by some margin.
I wouldn't agree. Rory O Carroll is the king of full backs. Bit of holding is as far as Rory goes. All defenders do that in CP.
Crowley wrestled Connolly three times to the ground yesterday in an effort to get him sent off.
Mc Mahon is a pup.
A bit of holding? He has his arms wrapped around his markey for 90% of the match.
But according to you Crowley is too small to be considered?
He's worse than a pup.
Rory doesn't engage in the dark arts. Every full back holds his man. It's a bullshit statement.
Mc mahon and Bastic I agree on. Johnny Cooper couldn't start a row with himself.
Crowley for Kerry is very cyncial. Spent the whole day yesterday goading Connolly.
O'Carroll is one of the best at the dark arts, no one would have noticed it this year only O'Connor split him open. That's what he's at all the time!
Cooper has been getting tips of O'Carroll and McMahon, dirtiest full back line in Ireland. Worse than the McGees!!!
Crowley is harmless.
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
Kerry ain't a clean team but they're not in Dublins league when it comes to the dirty stuff! It's been proven in this years championship.
No it hasn't. They repeatedly don't get punished like other counties because GAA officials have always bought into the pure football Kerry bolloxology. I can tell you first hand they have always had their Mafia Assassins
Hey, there's no denying they've had their fair share of gougers but Dublin win the award of number one gougers this year by a long way.
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A low act. But what sanction would suffice? I mean the CCC or whoever could make up an 8 wk ban for McCann in the middle of the championship, nothing worthwhile would be any use at this stage of the year. Saying that it was rotten, absolutely rotten.
Well he should not be brought on next Lions tour anyway.
Alan Quinlan lost his place on Lions squad for a lot less straying around than that.
As regards GAA, he's no case to answer. Let him belt away.
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
Kerry ain't a clean team but they're not in Dublins league when it comes to the dirty stuff! It's been proven in this years championship.
No it hasn't. They repeatedly don't get punished like other counties because GAA officials have always bought into the pure football Kerry bolloxology. I can tell you first hand they have always had their Mafia Assassins
Hey, there's no denying they've had their fair share of gougers but Dublin win the award of number one gougers this year by a long way.
You're only a Wind Up Merchant in fairness so you can amuse yourself
Headbutts, diving, punching, holding off the ball, disgusting sledging, eye gouging, that's been Dublin this season. You can't deny it!
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Headbutts, diving, punching, holding off the ball, disgusting sledging, eye gouging, that's been Dublin this season. You can't deny it!
Ah now, hold on.
That ridiculous. The bits in bold can only be levelled at one Dublin player only.
I saw a lot of games and I didn t see a 'proper' punch. By a 'proper' punch go check out what Paudí did to Dinny Allen back in the day!
If anything Dublin are not a bullying team. Big lads like Flynn and Kilkenny don't throw their weight about. Bernard Brogan the last day looked terrified in the conditions. McCaffrey and Fenton are pure footballers. Rock, Andrews, McMenamon don t go looking for trouble. Alan Brogan is pure football. Bastic is no ogre for a man of his size and age either.
Holding off the ball is something you will see in underage and junior teams. Can t say I saw diving being an issue with Dublin either.
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At the game yesterday and a couple of things.
Ok, it was a wet day but still the atmosphere was not a patch on the Mayo/Dub semi or even the hurling final! Is it that likes of the lad painted in blue cant get final tickets ? It looked like The Hill had a different crowd in.
Or maybe it is a different dynamic when these 2 teams meet.
Kerry were not physical at all really. A few tangles on the ground but that was more down to conditions. The lads were nearly apologising to each other about it. And if anything the Kerry lads were holding in those situations. But nothing in it really.
I dunno what the dynamic is. Last year Walsh was a cntu in both semi-finals. Skelping away with impunity and badgering the ref. Yesterday he went back to his choirboy mode (which was his form for most of his career). He played a destructive game last year and covered a lot of ground. Yesterday he was hobbling badly near the end but at no time looked like an enforcer. He ran a lot but minded himself.
A dry day yesterday and Kerry could have taken a serious beating imo. So many of their players were off the pace/ unfocussed was unreal.
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
O Carroll has never been sent off- doesn't count
Cooper weighs 11 stone and is a waif- I'd pick him with with one hand myself. - again doesn't count.
Kerry have O Mahony, Donaghy, Galvin, Maher, Crowley...........I could go on.
The most cynical team in the country and always have been.
O'Carroll is very good at it, that's why he doesn't get caught.
It doesn't matter what weight you are, Ricey wasn't 16 stone.
I wouldn't include Maher or Crowley on your list.
Dublin have won the most cynical team this year by some margin.
I wouldn't agree. Rory O Carroll is the king of full backs. Bit of holding is as far as Rory goes. All defenders do that in CP.
Crowley wrestled Connolly three times to the ground yesterday in an effort to get him sent off.
Mc Mahon is a pup.
A bit of holding? He has his arms wrapped around his markey for 90% of the match.
But according to you Crowley is too small to be considered?
He's worse than a pup.
Rory doesn't engage in the dark arts. Every full back holds his man. It's a bullshit statement.
Mc mahon and Bastic I agree on. Johnny Cooper couldn't start a row with himself.
Crowley for Kerry is very cyncial. Spent the whole day yesterday goading Connolly.
Crowley was at the same with Cavanagh in the semi-final, spent the whole game trying to get a reaction out of him. It doesn't really bother me as such as every team will have players like that you will try and rile one of the opposition's key men and Cavanagh is wise enough to it by now. What did annoy me was after the intense scrutiny that Tyrone came under after the Monaghan game, after the flak Justy McMahon got for his marking job on Murphy, there was nothing about Crowley. There have been subsequent events in the semi-finals that would put most of what we saw in the Tyrone-Monaghan game into pale significance but there has been nowhere near the hysteric reaction.
Could you imagine the reaction if guys like O'Mahony, Crowley, Connolly, Cooper or McMahon played for Tyrone?
What McMahon did is the same or worse than biting.
Any ban won't be long enough but sure it'll be appealed, by senior counsel of course!
I see Connollys report is out. Apparently the linesman's word is hearsay.
Was watching the game as a neutral on Sunday and to be honest it didn't take me long to decide I wanted Dublin to win after seeing the constant antics of O'Mahony and Crowley etc. Add Donaghy into the equation and its hard to want Kerry to win. I knew the game was up for Kerry when Sheehan was brought on,I'm sure he put the fear of god into the Dublin players. Sheehan probably didn't even mean to punch Macauley either.
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Everyone defends their own players no matter what which is our nature but is wrong, however RTE is bang out of order with different standards of analysis for different teams. if that had been a Tyrone player their panelists would have went mental...
Two wrong and all that.
The problem isn't that Philly got a light touch but that the Tyrone lads got a severe bashing.
Great to see a Dublin team with a set of balls for a change.
I know things happen in the heat of the moment but I find it hard to believe that philly McMahon would attempt to gouge a guys eye.
I would expect that he prob tried to pull donaghys face - dragging his hand across it - but gouging...that's not something that even in the heat of the moment would happen in GAA.
ive seen the photos, I didn't see it during the game, I didn't watch the sunday game. But I just doubt it.
I do think McMahon is cynical, borderline dirty - but that's the game. Im not criticising him for that. he is good at it.
There are loads more Dublin defenders (and midfielders and attackers) who play on the edge which shows a level of football intelligence that teams need. its just about within the rules and they are all Ireland champions as they can also play football.
There many other teams with similar abilities. Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal.
I wish Derry had these abilities.
Football ability alone wont win you an all Ireland or even an ulster championship.
you can call me naïve etc but I just cant see McMahon intending to gouge.
only he knows but that intent can never be proven.
the only way to make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen again is maybe to make an example of Philly and ban hm
its not fair on philly as I don't believe he intended it. but the GAA prob needs to nip this in the bud.
If I was joe schmidt I'd has McMahon on a plane.
Lynchbhoy, take a look at the video, there is literally no doubt
Welcome to the three-consecutive-Championship-wins-against-Kerry-in-Croke club Dublin, better late than never! ;) :P
No question that the better team on the day won, though Kerry tactics significantly contributed to their own downfall.
Would tend to agree with Lynchbhoy on the Mc Mahon incident, though raking a hand across an opponent's face should be punished on its own ugly terms... Still, could have been so much worse, had he any Tyrone connections! :-\
Seeing his comments in the Irish News won't help him much:
"Yeah it does, I'm talking to friends and family (about the incident), when I should be talking about keeping one of the best footballers in decades scoreless!"
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Welcome to the three-consecutive-Championship-wins-against-Kerry-in-Croke club Dublin, better late than never! ;) :P
No question that the better team on the day won, though Kerry tactics significantly contributed to their own downfall.
Would tend to agree with Lynchbhoy on the Mc Mahon incident, though raking a hand across an opponent's face should be punished on its own ugly terms... Still, could have been so much worse, had he any Tyrone connections! :-\
Might be due to the victims Tyrone connections ;)
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People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
you need to let Limerick go, its over, cannot be changed. I've watched Mayo, Kerry, Dublin, Donegal and Tyrone (top 5 teams in the country) live on a few occasions in the last couple of years ( ie their current squads) and each are as cynical as each other. The holding, dragging etc, there isnt much difference. Diving, sledging is Tyrone's baby by a distance. You're calling out players like Donnacha Walsh, Crowley to add concrete to your vendetta, its fairly pitiful in fairness. This is school yard carryon...youse are the worst, no youse are the worst. I'm waiting for one of you guys to say their da could beat another man's da in a fight .
What Philly McMahon done to Donaghy on Sunday is beyond the pale. He needs the book thrown at him. Any other player gouging a man's eye the same.
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you need to let Limerick go, its over, cannot be changed. I've watched Mayo, Kerry, Dublin, Donegal and Tyrone (top 5 teams in the country) live on a few occasions in the last couple of years ( ie their current squads) and each are as cynical as each other. The holding, dragging etc, there isnt much difference. Diving, sledging is Tyrone's baby by a distance. You're calling out players like Donnacha Walsh, Crowley to add concrete to your vendetta, its fairly pitiful in fairness. This is school yard carryon...youse are the worst, no youse are the worst. I'm waiting for one of you guys to say their da could beat another man's da in a fight .
What Philly McMahon done to Donaghy on Sunday is beyond the pale. He needs the book thrown at him. Any other player gouging a man's eye the same.
I have no idea what this is about.
Would love to have Philly play for us, Ricy Mark2
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you need to let Limerick go, its over, cannot be changed. I've watched Mayo, Kerry, Dublin, Donegal and Tyrone (top 5 teams in the country) live on a few occasions in the last couple of years ( ie their current squads) and each are as cynical as each other. The holding, dragging etc, there isnt much difference. Diving, sledging is Tyrone's baby by a distance. You're calling out players like Donnacha Walsh, Crowley to add concrete to your vendetta, its fairly pitiful in fairness. This is school yard carryon...youse are the worst, no youse are the worst. I'm waiting for one of you guys to say their da could beat another man's da in a fight .
What Philly McMahon done to Donaghy on Sunday is beyond the pale. He needs the book thrown at him. Any other player gouging a man's eye the same.
I have no idea what this is about.
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Would love to have Philly play for us, Ricy Mark2
Ricey was never physical though. He rarely put in big hits or busted out of challenges. For some reason he would have you terrified before it came to that.
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Quote from: Ranga on September 21, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
People say every team needs a player like McMahon, Dublin seem to have many of these type of players!
Funny thing is Kerry have more!
McMahon, O'Carroll, Cooper, MDMA, Bastick, Connolly, who are the Kerry players?
Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, David Moran, Enright, Maher...off the top of my head!
Only Donaghy would make the cut from that list.
If you are saying Donaghy is the mildest of all I named, then I agree with you!
I'm saying Donaghy would be the only one to make it onto the cynical list.
From afar it looks like that! Donaghy is the Big bad Bully! He stands out! But the reality is Kerry more than anyone have loads of players playing on the edge. You see there are players like Connolly who get a rush of blood and do something rash, uncalculated to bring him to the limelight. Players Like Donnacha Walsh can spend a whole game doing calculated cynical stuff and yet nobody notices. Kerry hide their deceit better. Now don't get me wrong, Connolly is no angel and Donnacha Walsh takes a sh!t load of abuse as well. But to say Kerry are a clean team is cloud coo coo Land!
you need to let Limerick go, its over, cannot be changed. I've watched Mayo, Kerry, Dublin, Donegal and Tyrone (top 5 teams in the country) live on a few occasions in the last couple of years ( ie their current squads) and each are as cynical as each other. The holding, dragging etc, there isnt much difference. Diving, sledging is Tyrone's baby by a distance. You're calling out players like Donnacha Walsh, Crowley to add concrete to your vendetta, its fairly pitiful in fairness. This is school yard carryon...youse are the worst, no youse are the worst. I'm waiting for one of you guys to say their da could beat another man's da in a fight .
What Philly McMahon done to Donaghy on Sunday is beyond the pale. He needs the book thrown at him. Any other player gouging a man's eye the same.
Yet your at the same craic in your own post. :o
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 22, 2015, 08:13:06 AM
What McMahon did is the same or worse than biting.
Any ban won't be long enough but sure it'll be appealed, by senior counsel of course!
I see Connollys report is out. Apparently the linesman's word is hearsay.
He's got that covered too. Ask Paul Kerrigan!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh6YQBgD-0A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh6YQBgD-0A)
A 9 week ban for 'contact with the eye area': http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/34340436 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/34340436)
And that is in the middle of a World Cup.
Quote from: muppet on September 23, 2015, 10:04:45 PM
A 9 week ban for 'contact with the eye area': http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/34340436 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/34340436)
And that is in the middle of a World Cup.
That's professional sport.
Philly is only an amateur at it. ::)
that the proper way to issue bans, 3 days, no f**king around, no legal get outs, Appeals use to be increased if they failed but i think that doesn't apply any more.
national teams respect the reports given and don't try to cheat there way round the rules to get players off like the Gaelic or soccer.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2015, 11:25:15 PM
that the proper way to issue bans, 3 days, no f**king around, no legal get outs, Appeals use to be increased if they failed but i think that doesn't apply any more.
national teams respect the reports given and don't try to cheat there way round the rules to get players off like the Gaelic or soccer.
Aye, that ban was handed out to an Argie. Bet an England/Kiwi/Auzzie player would be treated very differently, just like the GAA do when it comes to the big counties.
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2015, 11:25:15 PM
that the proper way to issue bans, 3 days, no f**king around, no legal get outs, Appeals use to be increased if they failed but i think that doesn't apply any more.
national teams respect the reports given and don't try to cheat there way round the rules to get players off like the Gaelic or soccer.
Aye, that ban was handed out to an Argie. Bet an England/Kiwi/Auzzie player would be treated very differently, just like the GAA do when it comes to the big counties.
YEAH! AWIGHT MATE ! BLADDY ARGIES
I wouldn't put too much money on the teams you've mentioned there not taking their oil (as teams / players should do)
Are you saying there's very few appeals in Rugby? I'm almost sure appeals are quite common.
I'm sure there are appeals, but would there be 3 layers of it with a multitude of players getting off on technicalities like typos etc? In the rugby world, I'm sure the punishment for a certain offence would be fairly rigid, ie Romania would not get hit harder for an eye gouge than NZ. Maybe I'm wrong
Only a gypsy would eye gouge or the likes.
No dancing around it. He knew he did it but thinks its fine because they won.
Anyone at that carry on should be made an example of with a lengthly ban that matters.
Zero tolerance is needed in some instances.
This season will be as much remembered for all the crap and controversy that occurred as it will for the Dubz landing another title.
Potential one match ban - the GAA are jokers. I guess it clears the way for everyone else to give it a go for a laugh
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on September 25, 2015, 08:03:15 AM
Potential one match ban - the GAA are jokers. I guess it clears the way for everyone else to give it a go for a laugh
If true, the way this years went, punishment wise, one match is pretty harsh ! The whole thing needs a swift and drastic overhaul. It really is a joke at this stage
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2015, 11:25:15 PM
that the proper way to issue bans, 3 days, no f**king around, no legal get outs, Appeals use to be increased if they failed but i think that doesn't apply any more.
national teams respect the reports given and don't try to cheat there way round the rules to get players off like the Gaelic or soccer.
Rugbys disciplinary process wasn't much help to Brian o Driscoll when the 2 new Zealand thugs tried to put him in a wheelchair.
Appealing the ban apparently. It'll be interesting to hear what the defence is
Thought that he'd sit back take the ban and let the dust settle. Being banned for one match would mean shag all to him at this stage! Must want to clear his name and open up the chance of getting player of the year and any other accolades. Although I doubt the overturning of the ban would have a dramatic effect on the perception of him as a player.
Either way the GAA need to wrap this up and get a serious plan in place to deal with their seriously inept disciplinary system.
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2015, 10:15:50 AM
Thought that he'd sit back take the ban and let the dust settle. Being banned for one match would mean shag all to him at this stage! Must want to clear his name and open up the chance of getting player of the year and any other accolades. Although I doubt the overturning of the ban would have a dramatic effect on the perception of him as a player.
Either way the GAA need to wrap this up and get a serious plan in place to deal with their seriously inept disciplinary system.
Hasnt a hope of POTY as that is voted on by the actual players - a serious chunk of whom he'll have played against (whereas the selection for the three candidates is made by a committee) Even if he is cleared and goes on a massive media blitz his reputation with the actual players will come against him in the end.
Said McCaffrey at 7/1 was a tasty price a while back and I stick to it.
Far more likeable than McMahon which counts for a lot when down to the final three - also has pedigree in that he was a Young Player of the Year previously.
The only obstacle stopping Brogan from getting it is the fact that he won it already.
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 01, 2015, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 01, 2015, 10:15:50 AM
Thought that he'd sit back take the ban and let the dust settle. Being banned for one match would mean shag all to him at this stage! Must want to clear his name and open up the chance of getting player of the year and any other accolades. Although I doubt the overturning of the ban would have a dramatic effect on the perception of him as a player.
Either way the GAA need to wrap this up and get a serious plan in place to deal with their seriously inept disciplinary system.
Hasnt a hope of POTY as that is voted on by the actual players - a serious chunk of whom he'll have played against (whereas the selection for the three candidates is made by a committee) Even if he is cleared and goes on a massive media blitz his reputation with the actual players will come against him in the end.
Said McCaffrey at 7/1 was a tasty price a while back and I stick to it.
Far more likeable than McMahon which counts for a lot when down to the final three - also has pedigree in that he was a Young Player of the Year previously.
The only obstacle stopping Brogan from getting it is the fact that he won it already.
And that he had a stinker in the final.
Mitigating circumstances. All the forwards had stinkers in the final, due to the conditions.
Philly McMahon's contribution to Dublin's retaking of Sam this year was enormous. He is definitely my POTY.
I believe that there are very few players or managers or supporters in this country who would not want Philly on their team.
cant see a man who tries to headbutt a player, stick his knees into a player on the ground, and i don't know what he was at with Donaghy been remotely near to be considered a player of the year, some role model for the kids indeed. Again focus is down to 6 wks in the year August and a few weeks in September, surely there has to be a better process to picking a player of the year. Some players had good seasons, M Murphy,L Keegan, J McCaffrey (who get it) C Kilkenny and Mcmahon in general. Personally the best player in the country this year was Monaghans Conor McManus
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 01, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
Philly McMahon's contribution to Dublin's retaking of Sam this year was enormous. He is definitely my POTY.
I believe that there are very few players or managers or supporters in this country who would not want Philly on their team.
Agree, most dominant player in the country this year, a hero, a gentlemen and a good role model . Deserves it.
After him then Bernard, after Bernard Rory O Carroll, After him then Connolly, then Jack. Connolly was in many peoples eyes a shoe in up until the semi-finals. Didn't stand out in either game but contributed hugely.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 02, 2015, 08:20:45 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 01, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
Philly McMahon's contribution to Dublin's retaking of Sam this year was enormous. He is definitely my POTY.
I believe that there are very few players or managers or supporters in this country who would not want Philly on their team.
Agree, most dominant player in the country this year, a hero, a gentlemen and a good role model . Deserves it.
After him then Bernard, after Bernard Rory O Carroll, After him then Connolly, then Jack. Connolly was in many peoples eyes a shoe in up until the semi-finals. Didn't stand out in either game but contributed hugely.
and roll model of the year goes to......
'right kids, pay attention. First part of training today will be headbutting, then we'll move on to feigning injury. After hang sangwiches we'll progress to gouging eyeballs. Oh, and don't forget to bring a friend next week'.
Quote from: JoG2 on October 02, 2015, 09:35:56 AM
and roll model of the year goes to......
'right kids, pay attention. First part of training today will be headbutting, then we'll move on to feigning injury. After hang sangwiches we'll progress to gouging eyeballs. Oh, and don't forget to bring a friend next week'.
Can empathise with those sentiments perhaps, but FFS, he's a gaelic footballer not an acrobat: ROLE model!
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 01, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
Philly McMahon's contribution to Dublin's retaking of Sam this year was enormous. He is definitely my POTY.
I believe that there are very few players or managers or supporters in this country who would not want Philly on their team.
Good player but very up and down. Seems to have had trouble even making the Dublin 15 in most of the last few years.
I don't see how McMahon is getting all this credit for keeping AOS quiet in particular, he was only one two players whose only task was to mark him, with a third man quick to help out. And in the first game in particular McMahon should have been sent off, all he did was foul once AOS got the ball. When he realised AOS can't track back effectively in the second game he made hay going forward but also scuffed a few golden opportunities too.
I getting a feeling Dublin people are trying to make McMahon into some sort of roguish hero ala Ricey in Tyrone because neutrals have little time for the way he goes about playing the game but honestly I don't care enough about McMahon to have strongly negative or positive feelings about him.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 02, 2015, 10:21:03 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 02, 2015, 09:35:56 AM
and roll model of the year goes to......
'right kids, pay attention. First part of training today will be headbutting, then we'll move on to feigning injury. After hang sangwiches we'll progress to gouging eyeballs. Oh, and don't forget to bring a friend next week'.
Can empathise with those sentiments perhaps, but FFS, he's a gaelic footballer not an acrobat: ROLE model!
you'd needy check yourself in if you're getting that upset over a typo ;-)
Quote from: Syferus on October 02, 2015, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 01, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
Philly McMahon's contribution to Dublin's retaking of Sam this year was enormous. He is definitely my POTY.
I believe that there are very few players or managers or supporters in this country who would not want Philly on their team.
Good player but very up and down. Seems to have had trouble even making the Dublin 15 in most of the last few years.
I don't see how McMahon is getting all this credit for keeping AOS quiet in particular, he was only one two players whose only task was to mark him, with a third man quick to help out. And in the first game in particular McMahon should have been sent off, all he did was foul once AOS got the ball. When he realised AOS can't track back effectively in the second game he made hay going forward but also scuffed a few golden opportunities too.
It's also worth noting that while AOS only scored 0-1 in the two matches, he was fouled for 4 pointed frees in the first game and 3 in the second so it wasn't quite the lockdown job indicated by the scoring stats alone
POTY should be exactly that, just because he may have head butted or eye gouged, u cant then say he shouldn't get player of the year because of that. If he was the best player in the championship then he deserves to be recognised this way in spite of the misdemeanours! He plays on the edge like a lot of players do. He is interested in winning all-Irelands, that's what he trains all year for. IMHO he was man of the match in the all-Ireland final but he should also get a suspension for his action in that game. FFS they were going to suspend McCann for 8 weeks for diving.
Quote from: JoG2 on October 02, 2015, 10:37:16 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 02, 2015, 10:21:03 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 02, 2015, 09:35:56 AM
and roll model of the year goes to......
'right kids, pay attention. First part of training today will be headbutting, then we'll move on to feigning injury. After hang sangwiches we'll progress to gouging eyeballs. Oh, and don't forget to bring a friend next week'.
Can empathise with those sentiments perhaps, but FFS, he's a gaelic footballer not an acrobat: ROLE model!
you'd needy check yourself in if you're getting that upset over a typo ;-)
The letters 'e' and 'l' are nowhere near typo territory on a keypad, Derry dipso! ;)
Quote from: Syferus on October 02, 2015, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 01, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
Philly McMahon's contribution to Dublin's retaking of Sam this year was enormous. He is definitely my POTY.
I believe that there are very few players or managers or supporters in this country who would not want Philly on their team.
Good player but very up and down. Seems to have had trouble even making the Dublin 15 in most of the last few years.
I don't see how McMahon is getting all this credit for keeping AOS quiet in particular, he was only one two players whose only task was to mark him, with a third man quick to help out. And in the first game in particular McMahon should have been sent off, all he did was foul once AOS got the ball. When he realised AOS can't track back effectively in the second game he made hay going forward but also scuffed a few golden opportunities too.
I getting a feeling Dublin people are trying to make McMahon into some sort of roguish hero ala Ricey in Tyrone because neutrals have little time for the way he goes about playing the game but honestly I don't care enough about McMahon to have strongly negative or positive feelings about him.
+1
On the button all the way Syf
POTY is voted by the players and managers, is that correct? Then he has a good chance in my opinion as no bias agenda driven officials or journo's will have a vote.
A role model who likes to roll around :) get up the yard you literate bollox ye.
Look the lad had a good year. He a bit of a rogue and this will always get up the nose of opposition fans especially if he gets away with it and your team suffers. His misdemeanors are not seen by the Dublin fans and this is understandable. They like any fan will see what they want to see or gloss over it to make it less awkward for them to support him as fans.
Question is 'Is the Player of the Year supposed to be a role model?' or is it supposed to be the most influential player of the year?
Quote from: Syferus on October 02, 2015, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 01, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
Philly McMahon's contribution to Dublin's retaking of Sam this year was enormous. He is definitely my POTY.
I believe that there are very few players or managers or supporters in this country who would not want Philly on their team.
And in the first game in particular McMahon should have been sent off
Why is that?
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 02, 2015, 11:15:24 AM
POTY is voted by the players and managers, is that correct? Then he has a good chance in my opinion as no bias agenda driven officials or journo's will have a vote.
A role model who likes to roll around :) get up the yard you literate bollox ye.
much obliged
Whatever we might think of Philly's approach to the game, it's a bit rich to read the holier than thou pontificating coming from Colm O'Rourke.
If the award is for the best footballer of the year then McMahon is a clear winner for me. A very stout defender but also a good footballer to go with it as the quality of his passing and the number of scores got testify to. I'm surprised that McCaffrey is being touted so highly since whilst he had a couple of good games early on in the traditional Leinster turkey shoots, his form dipped in the latter stages or at least I don't remember him as being particularly outstanding. Brogan would be the alternative if image comes into it as he has the image but also produced the goods consistently (apart from an average final).
Quote from: JoG2 on October 02, 2015, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 02, 2015, 11:15:24 AM
POTY is voted by the players and managers, is that correct? Then he has a good chance in my opinion as no bias agenda driven officials or journo's will have a vote.
A role model who likes to roll around :) get up the yard you literate bollox ye.
much obliged
Fair enough, medicine swallowed, though had that Dub gobshite referred to
illiterates you had a mouthful of oil to get down your uncouth gob! ;)
In the current game it is very hard to stand out or to have a massive influence on a game, except as part of a system. That ishe came up against another potential POTY has brightened Philly's Star. Not sure he was this years most influential but he came out in the winning side of one of the fre real battles.
Since when have fans of any sport labelled a player who has headbutted, bitten, feigned injury and eye gouged as a 'rogue'. I could think of a lot of names to call him but a rogue would not be one.
Dublin Gaa and fans should hang their heads in shame with their constant support of McMahon.
Quote from: mup on October 03, 2015, 08:12:39 AM
Since when have fans of any sport labelled a player who has headbutted, bitten, feigned injury and eye gouged as a 'rogue'. I could think of a lot of names to call him but a rogue would not be one.
Dublin Gaa and fans should hang their heads in shame with their constant support of McMahon.
All managers will support their player in this situation. And most supporters will also but not all. Think of micky hartes support of ryan mcmenamin when he was behaving like a sc**bag year after year. The fact he was a good player meant that harte would always support him. Also think of harte totally supporting mccann this year after his disgusting dive.
Quote from: mup on October 03, 2015, 08:12:39 AM
Since when have fans of any sport labelled a player who has headbutted, bitten, feigned injury and eye gouged as a 'rogue'. I could think of a lot of names to call him but a rogue would not be one.
Dublin Gaa and fans should hang their heads in shame with their constant support of McMahon.
A lot or wild allegations there - can you substantiate any of them?
No? I thought not.
After reading about his personal life of late as it's been in the papers a lot , I have great admiration for this guy and understand his aggressive play a bit more . Your typical middle class uppity conservative shitebag gaa people wouldn't have a clue or even care to understand a culture they have always frowned upon. I always look forward to the day the council estate kids are more pro gaa, maybe this buck will up the ante in that respect.
McMahon should be POTY. Dublin would have won Sam with or without McCaffrey. Not so sure they would have done so without McMahon.
Quote from: larryin89 on October 03, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
After reading about his personal life of late as it's been in the papers a lot , I have great admiration for this guy and understand his aggressive play a bit more . Your typical middle class uppity conservative shitebag gaa people wouldn't have a clue or even care to understand a culture they have always frowned upon. I always look forward to the day the council estate kids are more pro gaa, maybe this buck will up the ante in that respect.
WTF does this mean? Are you saying that because he comes from a 'council estate', you're willing to overlook some of his behaviour on the pitch. If that's the case you're even more clueless than the middle class uppity shitebags you're on about. Gouging, headbutts are out of order regardless of where he comes from, and it is not 'aggressive play', it is dirty play. That attitude that 'it's okay if he's dirty because of where he comes from ' is more discriminatory and presumptuous than someone who says he must be dirty because he's from the 'Mun. (Which is equally nonsense).
I have no clue what he's like off the pitch, and he seems to do great work in that community, but lets please spare the 'he comes from a tough neighbourhood so he has to be tough himself' stuff. Nothing tough in any of the dirty stuff he did on the pitch.
What is his background ? Just that he is from a council estate ?
As I said, I don't know much of him personally, and I've never met him. I know his brother died young as a result of a drug addiction (I believe), and I know Philly does great work in that area with the kids in Ballymun. I also know he has driven himself on and runs a load of Health and Fitness clubs and Fitfood as well.
Other than that, I don't know the back story.
He was anonymous for Ballymun on Saturday against Vincents
Quote from: Declan on October 05, 2015, 01:02:57 PM
He was anonymous for Ballymun on Saturday against Vincents
Indiana has his card marked :)
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Quote from: larryin89 on October 03, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
After reading about his personal life of late as it's been in the papers a lot , I have great admiration for this guy and understand his aggressive play a bit more . Your typical middle class uppity conservative shitebag gaa people wouldn't have a clue or even care to understand a culture they have always frowned upon. I always look forward to the day the council estate kids are more pro gaa, maybe this buck will up the ante in that respect.
Gouging, headbutts are out of order regardless of where he comes from, and it is not 'aggressive play', it is dirty play.
What headbutt? Are you referring to this incident where O'Shea is holding his collar and drags him towards him?
http://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/philly-mcmahon-in-the-clear-as-new-footage-of-clash-with-aiden-oshea-emerges/37912
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Quote from: larryin89 on October 03, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
After reading about his personal life of late as it's been in the papers a lot , I have great admiration for this guy and understand his aggressive play a bit more . Your typical middle class uppity conservative shitebag gaa people wouldn't have a clue or even care to understand a culture they have always frowned upon. I always look forward to the day the council estate kids are more pro gaa, maybe this buck will up the ante in that respect.
Gouging, headbutts are out of order regardless of where he comes from, and it is not 'aggressive play', it is dirty play.
What headbutt? Are you referring to this incident where O'Shea is holding his collar and drags him towards him?
http://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/philly-mcmahon-in-the-clear-as-new-footage-of-clash-with-aiden-oshea-emerges/37912
Yes, I am. Maybe that wasn't a headbutt. The gouging is certain though. So if I say Gouging is out of order regardless, is that okay?
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Quote from: larryin89 on October 03, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
After reading about his personal life of late as it's been in the papers a lot , I have great admiration for this guy and understand his aggressive play a bit more . Your typical middle class uppity conservative shitebag gaa people wouldn't have a clue or even care to understand a culture they have always frowned upon. I always look forward to the day the council estate kids are more pro gaa, maybe this buck will up the ante in that respect.
Gouging, headbutts are out of order regardless of where he comes from, and it is not 'aggressive play', it is dirty play.
What headbutt? Are you referring to this incident where O'Shea is holding his collar and drags him towards him?
http://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/philly-mcmahon-in-the-clear-as-new-footage-of-clash-with-aiden-oshea-emerges/37912
Yes, I am. Maybe that wasn't a headbutt. The gouging is certain though. So if I say Gouging is out of order regardless, is that okay?
So there was no headbutt. We're clear on that.
I haven't seen any gouging, I know CCCC have proposed a penalty and he's chosen to contest it and that's ongoing - if you can see any gouging in that clip you've far better eyesight than me.
Fair enough, you just pretend he didn't and I'll just trust my eyesight.
As for the headbutt, I'm willing to accept it may not have been. May not.
Anyway, this is slightly tangential. What I'm saying is that *if* (cough cough) he gouged a lad, the fact he comes from Ballymun is not a mitigating factor, no more than he should be tarred as dirty just because he is from Ballymun. His behaviour on the field is completely separate from his locale. I'm sure you can agree with that?
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Quote from: larryin89 on October 03, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
After reading about his personal life of late as it's been in the papers a lot , I have great admiration for this guy and understand his aggressive play a bit more . Your typical middle class uppity conservative shitebag gaa people wouldn't have a clue or even care to understand a culture they have always frowned upon. I always look forward to the day the council estate kids are more pro gaa, maybe this buck will up the ante in that respect.
Gouging, headbutts are out of order regardless of where he comes from, and it is not 'aggressive play', it is dirty play.
What headbutt? Are you referring to this incident where O'Shea is holding his collar and drags him towards him?
http://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/philly-mcmahon-in-the-clear-as-new-footage-of-clash-with-aiden-oshea-emerges/37912
Yes, I am. Maybe that wasn't a headbutt. The gouging is certain though. So if I say Gouging is out of order regardless, is that okay?
So there was no headbutt. We're clear on that.
I haven't seen any gouging, I know CCCC have proposed a penalty and he's chosen to contest it and that's ongoing - if you can see any gouging in that clip you've far better eyesight than me.
I suppose he didn't bite the Cork lad either? Your getting as bad as the Tyrone lads!
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
Ach sure it was only a little nibble.
Philly McMahon should definitely be player of the year. He never headbutted or eye gouged or dived or punched players on the ground or anything. Here's his highlight reel from the season:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mCrvSNuAM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mCrvSNuAM8)
Some clap trap on here. The man had a super season. Theres not one county in Ireland who would not love to have him. I'll have him, and would not want him unless I got the full package. POTY
Who said he didn't have a super season? Some lads are very keen to argue with stuff that hasn't been said at all!
Quote from: Ranga on October 05, 2015, 01:50:07 PM
Philly McMahon should definitely be player of the year. He never headbutted or eye gouged or dived or punched players on the ground or anything. Here's his highlight reel from the season:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mCrvSNuAM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mCrvSNuAM8)
Another one. That Kerrigan incident was from a few years ago. Donaghy footage inconclusive. O Shea incident both of them at it.
Best player in Ireland this year.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 05, 2015, 02:45:12 PM
Quote from: Ranga on October 05, 2015, 01:50:07 PM
Philly McMahon should definitely be player of the year. He never headbutted or eye gouged or dived or punched players on the ground or anything. Here's his highlight reel from the season:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mCrvSNuAM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mCrvSNuAM8)
Another one. That Kerrigan incident was from a few years ago. Donaghy footage inconclusive. O Shea incident both of them at it.
Best player in Ireland this year.
Biting, gouging, diving, punching, throwing headbutts. No wonder Philly McMahon is so popular with the Dubs.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
You forgot the punching and sledging as well.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 06, 2015, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
You forgot the punching and sledging as well.
And there are none of you wouldn't wish you had him on your team. Unfortunately for you, you haven't got him.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
AZ, you're beginning to sound like Colm O'Rourke. Offaly won all their AI titles with a fair quota of hard men on their teams. And these men are rightly legends in Offaly.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 06, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
AZ, you're beginning to sound like Colm O'Rourke. Offaly won all their AI titles with a fair quota of hard men on their teams. And these men are rightly legends in Offaly.
Hard = Good
Underhand = not Good
Quote from: PW Nally on October 06, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 06, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
AZ, you're beginning to sound like Colm O'Rourke. Offaly won all their AI titles with a fair quota of hard men on their teams. And these men are rightly legends in Offaly.
Hard = Good
Underhand = not Good
"Hard" in my experience usually encompasses the lot.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 06, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
AZ, you're beginning to sound like Colm O'Rourke. Offaly won all their AI titles with a fair quota of hard men on their teams. And these men are rightly legends in Offaly.
Exactly. Most on the lads on here are just bitter, and its great.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 06, 2015, 09:36:41 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on October 06, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 06, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
AZ, you're beginning to sound like Colm O'Rourke. Offaly won all their AI titles with a fair quota of hard men on their teams. And these men are rightly legends in Offaly.
Hard = Good
Underhand = not Good
"Hard" in my experience usually encompasses the lot.
Nothing hard about trying to remove someone's eyeball from their socket. I don't think there's even a word for that.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 06, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
AZ, you're beginning to sound like Colm O'Rourke. Offaly won all their AI titles with a fair quota of hard men on their teams. And these men are rightly legends in Offaly.
There's a difference between hard and sneaky shite like gouging and biting Hound. I've no problem with Ger Brennan for example.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 07, 2015, 09:30:29 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 06, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
AZ, you're beginning to sound like Colm O'Rourke. Offaly won all their AI titles with a fair quota of hard men on their teams. And these men are rightly legends in Offaly.
There's a difference between hard and sneaky shite like gouging and biting Hound. I've no problem with Ger Brennan for example.
He didn't bite me.
He's not that tough!
Sorry Hound, on both counts. The missing comma and confusing you with THIB. :)
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 07, 2015, 09:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 06, 2015, 09:36:41 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on October 06, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on October 06, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 05, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
I forgot him biting Kerrigan!
AZ, you're beginning to sound like Colm O'Rourke. Offaly won all their AI titles with a fair quota of hard men on their teams. And these men are rightly legends in Offaly.
Hard = Good
Underhand = not Good
"Hard" in my experience usually encompasses the lot.
Nothing hard about trying to remove someone's eyeball from their socket. I don't think there's even a word for that.
Yes, the word is hyperbole.
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He is a gentleman.... having failed in his attempt to reposition his gum shield he helpfully tried to replace his contact lens.