First of the provincial finals.
Both sides usually name their teams on the Thursday night, so we should have word soon.
Kerry didn't exactly set the world on fire against Tipp while Cork seemed to benefit from the fact that Clare didn't have all that much in the way of lads who got put the ball over or under the bar missing 3 goal chances and notching 12 wides.
I have close to zero faith in Cork - Cuthbert seems to me to be a massive spoofer for the most part- Also to me the recall of O'Connor in midfield just reeks of desperation, this Cork team haven't a notion how to defend and I just don't think the management team are remotely capable of pulling a rabbit from a bag that would spectacular enough to stun the Kerry folk. Their one slim hope is if the inside men get goals and plenty of them as the this Cork defence constantly concedes big scores against top teams.
Kerry are a bit more of an interesting question - lots of folk missing throughout the league, a squad that looks decent but with some interesting questions hanging over them and the small matter of being the reigning All-Ireland champions of course, but it's one thing to have a decent squad and a whole other thing to sort them into a decent team. When it comes to Kerry under Fitzmaurice he has a fairly decent record in terms of getting the match-ups right so unless he makes a mess of things, I'd expect them to triumph.
The starters are done with, we're getting down to the main course now ( August and September are the desert the best part of the meal in my opinion)
Yeah it's hard to see past Kerry in this one. In saying that Cork did put it up to Mayo last year and have decent footballers so anything is possible but you'd feel Kerry would need to have a notable off day for Cork to win.
Quote from: Zulu on July 02, 2015, 06:54:28 PM
Yeah it's hard to see past Kerry in this one. In saying that Cork did put it up to Mayo last year and have decent footballers so anything is possible but you'd feel Kerry would need to have a notable off day for Cork to win.
Like even in the Mayo game Cork still conceded 1-19 (only 2 points less than the Kerry game.) Even in the Donegal game they won, a not 100% Donegal still scored 0-19 points.
Overall it looks like they have made zero in the way of progress in terms of sorting things out on the defensive end of things and if your defence is not up-to-snuff you might get away with it if you have talented forwards for a day or two but you're not to be winning championships.
All the omens point to a Kerry win for me.
Ah yeah you couldn't make an argument for Cork but I think they'll have to have something up their sleeves, they can't go out man for man. They could go ultra defensive and Kerry have apparently dropped some big names for Sunday or at least that's the rumour.
Cork Team Senior Football:
1. Ken O'Halloran (Bishopstown)
2. Michael Shields (St. Finbarr's) Capt.
3. Eoin Cadogan (Douglas)
4. James Loughrey (Mallow)
5. Barry O'Driscoll (Nemo Rangers)
6. Brian O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
7. Stephen Cronin (Nemo Rangers)
8. Alan O'Connor (St. Colum's)
9. Fintan Goold (Macroom)
10. Paul Kerrigan (Nemo Rangers)
11. Donncha O'Connor (Ballydesmond)
12. Kevin O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
13. Colm O'Neill (Ballyclough)
14. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
15. Brian Hurley (Castlehaven)
Subs:
16. Paddy O'Shea (St. Vincent's)
17. Jamie O'Sullivan (Bishopstown)
18. Noel Galvin (Ballincollig)
19. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
20. Tomás Clancy (Fermoy)
21. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)
22. Patrick Kelly (Ballincollig)
23. John Hayes (Carbery Rangers)
24. Colm O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
25. Daniel Goulding (Éire Óg)
26. Donal Óg Hodnett (O'Donovan Rossa)
4 man forward line? Collins and O'Driscoll to drop back as sweepers I suppose. Not bad on paper but a few fellas whose name is probably more impressive than their ability at this stage. In truth would many of the top teams desperately want any of the Cork players other than O'Neill and Hurley?
That looks very much a lineup picked to avoid a hammering as opposed to one set up to go out and win it.
Could easily see that middle 8 for Cork struggling.
Kerry Team :
1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
2. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
3. Marc Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht
4. Shane Enright Tarbert
5. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
6. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
7. Killian Young Renard
8. David Moran Kerins O'Rahillys
9. Bryan Sheehan St Marys
10. Stephen O'Brien Kenmare
11. Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
13. Barry John Keane Kerins O'Rahillys
14. Kieran Donaghy (C) Austin Stacks
15. James O'Donoghue Killarney Legion
Fir Ionaid
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17. Colm Cooper Dr Crokes
18. Anthony Maher Duagh
19. Paul Geaney Dingle
20. Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore
21. Michael Geaney Dingle
22. Aidan O'Mahony Rathmore
23. Darran O'Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar
24. Tommy Walsh Kerins O'Rahillys
25. Jack Sherwood Firies
26. Paul Murphy Rathmore
Additional Information:
Additional Squad Members
Paul Galvin Finuge
Alan Fitzgerald Castlegregory
Pa Kilkenny Glenbeigh/Glencar
Padraig O'Connor Killarney Legion
Philip O'Connor Cordal
Kieran O'Leary Dr Crokes (Recovering from an Achilles Tendon Injury)
Substitutes Bench -
The Kerry substitutes bench contains five players who started against Donegal in last year's All Ireland Final – Brian Kelly, Aidan O'Mahony, Paul Murphy, Anthony Maher and Paul Geaney.
Marc Ó Sé - Marc Ó Sé will play his 82nd Championship game for Kerry on Sunday thus surpassing his brother Darragh with whom he currently shares 81 Championship appearances for The Kingdom. Their other sibling, Tomás, played 88 championship games for Kerry which is a record.
Colm Cooper is in 4th position in the all time Kerry Championship appearances list on a mere 77!
The Lynes of Cleeney - A link with Sunday's game
The Lynes of Cleeney, within earshot of the Fitzgerald Stadium in Killarney, are a very well known footballing family who played their Club Football with Killarney Legion. Denny, Jackie and Fr Mickey all won All Irelands with Kerry at senior level – and Denny captained Kerry in the Polo Grounds final in '47, a game in which Jackie also played. Jackie went on to train Kerry to 2 All Ireland titles in '69 and '70. Their sister, Maura, married Tom Spillane and was of course mother of Pat, Mick and Tom of Kerry Golden Years fame - Sunday's No. 5 Jonathan Lyne is a grandson of Denny Lyne. Jonathan, who made his Championship debut against Clare in 2012, and made his full championship debut against Tipperary in this year's semi final, started in all of Kerry's seven AFL games this season.
Well that's a fairly decent subs bench. 8)
No Cooper starting is the big one. What does it mean? What does it mean?
For me Maher not featuring is a mite odd - hard to not see him featuring at some stage - But then you look at him and you look at the Cork options for midfield on the subs bench and you consider Alan O'Connor missed the league and wasn't playing intercounty for 2 years and it's hard not to see Cork struggling down the home stretch - bringing him on for the last 25 minutes with fresh legs and eager to prove a point might well be a masterstroke.
BJK starting definitely a surprise - would have Paul Geaney ahead of him all day long but Geaney does seem to have a tendency to pick up knocks and injuries.
D Walsh being back is a serious plus in terms of the half-forward line - I think he's one of the few players you can say Kerry definitely miss when he's not on the pitch.
I'm expecting early subs with that bench - anyone who isn't performing from the gun will be hooked fairly quickly.
Also for all the talk of All-Ireland winners plus Cooper back plus Tommy Walsh back plus Galvin back, 2 of them are on the bench and one isn't even in the 26.
Intriguing as the man says.
Quote from: Zulu on July 02, 2015, 08:35:06 PM
4 man forward line? Collins and O'Driscoll to drop back as sweepers I suppose. Not bad on paper but a few fellas whose name is probably more impressive than their ability at this stage. In truth would many of the top teams desperately want any of the Cork players other than O'Neill and Hurley?
I doubt the Mayo management would say no to Kerrigan, D O'Connor or even Goulding.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 02, 2015, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 02, 2015, 08:35:06 PM
4 man forward line? Collins and O'Driscoll to drop back as sweepers I suppose. Not bad on paper but a few fellas whose name is probably more impressive than their ability at this stage. In truth would many of the top teams desperately want any of the Cork players other than O'Neill and Hurley?
I doubt the Mayo management would say no to Kerrigan, D O'Connor or even Goulding.
You could make a strong case for D O'Connor, but he's staring down the barrel of a gun in terms of his age and doesn't have long left given he's almost 35 now. Lovely footballer.
You'd be fairly hard pushed it to make a case for Kerrigan - has flattered to deceive for a long while now and has been consistently inconsistent - his use of the ball and distribution is still a total lottery in what he will do when he gets the ball - Being unpredictable means he can be a bother for defenders with his pace but can also be a bother for his own team-mates in terms of where to move.
As for Goulding - he's still living off his reputation for his MOTM performance in the All-Ireland in 2010 despite the fact that 7 of the 9 points he got that day were from deadballs. What has he done since then. The grand sum total of feck all. Mayo would look over at Cillian O'Connor look back at Goulding and burst their arse laughing.
O'Neill and Hurley are the blue chip players but beyond that you have a large lot of very average looking footballers there for a county of Cork's size.
Agree, O'Connor might bring something to a squad this year but his days are numbered. The other two? Not a chance.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 02, 2015, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 02, 2015, 08:35:06 PM
4 man forward line? Collins and O'Driscoll to drop back as sweepers I suppose. Not bad on paper but a few fellas whose name is probably more impressive than their ability at this stage. In truth would many of the top teams desperately want any of the Cork players other than O'Neill and Hurley?
I doubt the Mayo management would say no to Kerrigan, D O'Connor or even Goulding.
And Shields, and Cadagan.
Not so sure we should be writing off the langers here. I'd say that team has another push in them. They will love this underdog tag and coming in under the radar. O'Neill, Hurley, Kerrigan and O'Connor make a formidable and robust forward line. The langers are a big price at 5/2.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 02, 2015, 09:36:18 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 02, 2015, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 02, 2015, 08:35:06 PM
4 man forward line? Collins and O'Driscoll to drop back as sweepers I suppose. Not bad on paper but a few fellas whose name is probably more impressive than their ability at this stage. In truth would many of the top teams desperately want any of the Cork players other than O'Neill and Hurley?
I doubt the Mayo management would say no to Kerrigan, D O'Connor or even Goulding.
You could make a strong case for D O'Connor, but he's staring down the barrel of a gun in terms of his age and doesn't have long left given he's almost 35 now. Lovely footballer.
You'd be fairly hard pushed it to make a case for Kerrigan - has flattered to deceive for a long while now and has been consistently inconsistent - his use of the ball and distribution is still a total lottery in what he will do when he gets the ball - Being unpredictable means he can be a bother for defenders with his pace but can also be a bother for his own team-mates in terms of where to move.
As for Goulding - he's still living off his reputation for his MOTM performance in the All-Ireland in 2010 despite the fact that 7 of the 9 points he got that day were from deadballs. What has he done since then. The grand sum total of feck all. Mayo would look over at Cillian O'Connor look back at Goulding and burst their arse laughing.
O'Neill and Hurley are the blue chip players but beyond that you have a large lot of very average looking footballers there for a county of Cork's size.
I'd take Kerrigan & O'Connor ahead Doherty, Andy Moran, Ronaldson & Diarmuid O'Connor.
Individually Cork have a lot of outstanding footballers unfortunately for them collectively they under performed for far too long now. Its easy to blame the management but in this case I would, tactically Counihan & Cuthbert appear to be way out of their depth.
It's all set up for a Cork raid on Killarney. Even when Cork have bad sides they were always well fit to put it up to Kerry ( and vice versa ) so whilst I'm not predicting a Cork win, don't rule it out altogether.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 03, 2015, 09:33:35 AM
I'd take Kerrigan & O'Connor ahead Doherty, Andy Moran, Ronaldson & Diarmuid O'Connor.
Individually Cork have a lot of outstanding footballers unfortunately for them collectively they under performed for far too long now. Its easy to blame the management but in this case I would, tactically Counihan & Cuthbert appear to be way out of their depth.
I think you are being attracted by Kerrigan's flashy pace - I'd say if you saw any stats in terms of his effectiveness when in possession you'd run a mile. Can't argue with O'Connor - just a lovely kicker of a ball.
Overall Cork have a couple of outstanding intercounty footballers and a lot of reasonable-ish intercounty footballers - for a county the size of Cork it's fairly unimpressive stuff. By rights they should be the natural competitor to Dublin in the resources/money/playing argument but the GAA is booming in Dublin and dying in Cork. They'll have a lovely grand stadium as Frank's monument and no decent teams to play in it.
You look at the Cork squad (missing no-one with injuries) and how many players do you see who are are likely to be really contending for All-Stars, even if things go well for Cork this year.
It's not just tactically Cuthbert is poor - his man management of the squad has been very poor - he's pulled a fair chunk of younger lads in and then dropped them again. The vibes I've heard out of Cork is that last year there was a horrible atmosphere in the camp, this year things are better in morale terms but that's more down to the fact the players realise he's doing the best he can, but he's simply not up to it in terms of competing with the top managers. It's noticeable that he's been in the media a lot less this year - only doing the bare minimum - (he wasn't even at the last press day in Cork)
Counihan might have been weak on tactics but his man-management and that side of things was superb - he had huge respect from the players. Where things could get mighty messy if Cuthbert gets the notion into his head that he might want another term - if that happens expect a lot of blowback.
Counihan was a poor manager too. Even the year Cork won the AI under him they managed to look average. Why they chose his replacement from the same brain-trust I'll never know but there's always been a hell of a lot wrong with Cork football from what I've seen.
Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2015, 10:08:43 AM
Counihan was a poor manager too. Even the year Cork won the AI under him they managed to look average. Why they chose his replacement from the same brain-trust I'll never know but there's always been a hell of a lot wrong with Cork football from what I've seen.
Disagree about Counihan. Thought he was a very good manager. The silverware won under his watch was impressive. Could maybe have won another AI I admit.
The football played by Cork against us in 2010 (AISF) and 2011 (NFL Final) was at times brilliant.
Very peculiar Kerry line up with a strong looking bench and Galvin not even making the match day 26. Given the strength of some of the players they have left out and Cork's fragility I fear for Cork in this match and I have a feeling they could suffer a heavy defeat.
Quote from: Canalman on July 03, 2015, 10:30:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2015, 10:08:43 AM
Counihan was a poor manager too. Even the year Cork won the AI under him they managed to look average. Why they chose his replacement from the same brain-trust I'll never know but there's always been a hell of a lot wrong with Cork football from what I've seen.
Disagree about Counihan. Thought he was a very good manager. The silverware won under his watch was impressive. Could maybe have won another AI I admit.
The football played by Cork against us in 2010 (AISF) and 2011 (NFL Final) was at times brilliant.
League titles? Christ we know all about being a league team. It isn't good enough. Counihan couldn't read or react to games. He is the poorest manager to have won an AI in my lifetime IMHO.
Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2015, 11:11:23 AM
Quote from: Canalman on July 03, 2015, 10:30:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2015, 10:08:43 AM
Counihan was a poor manager too. Even the year Cork won the AI under him they managed to look average. Why they chose his replacement from the same brain-trust I'll never know but there's always been a hell of a lot wrong with Cork football from what I've seen.
Disagree about Counihan. Thought he was a very good manager. The silverware won under his watch was impressive. Could maybe have won another AI I admit.
The football played by Cork against us in 2010 (AISF) and 2011 (NFL Final) was at times brilliant.
League titles? Christ we know all about being a league team. It isn't good enough. Counihan couldn't read or react to games. He is the poorest manager to have won an AI in my lifetime IMHO.
The teams that won the league the last 15 years or so bar Derry have won the AI also. I personlly would never sneer at a league win.
Honestly think too many people read too much into Counihan's deadpan manner and made wrong assumptions. I have never seen a poor manager win an AI.
Counihan imo anyway was a very good manager.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 03, 2015, 10:01:40 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 03, 2015, 09:33:35 AM
I'd take Kerrigan & O'Connor ahead Doherty, Andy Moran, Ronaldson & Diarmuid O'Connor.
Individually Cork have a lot of outstanding footballers unfortunately for them collectively they under performed for far too long now. Its easy to blame the management but in this case I would, tactically Counihan & Cuthbert appear to be way out of their depth.
I think you are being attracted by Kerrigan's flashy pace - I'd say if you saw any stats in terms of his effectiveness when in possession you'd run a mile. Can't argue with O'Connor - just a lovely kicker of a ball.
Overall Cork have a couple of outstanding intercounty footballers and a lot of reasonable-ish intercounty footballers - for a county the size of Cork it's fairly unimpressive stuff. By rights they should be the natural competitor to Dublin in the resources/money/playing argument but the GAA is booming in Dublin and dying in Cork. They'll have a lovely grand stadium as Frank's monument and no decent teams to play in it.
You look at the Cork squad (missing no-one with injuries) and how many players do you see who are are likely to be really contending for All-Stars, even if things go well for Cork this year.
It's not just tactically Cuthbert is poor - his man management of the squad has been very poor - he's pulled a fair chunk of younger lads in and then dropped them again. The vibes I've heard out of Cork is that last year there was a horrible atmosphere in the camp, this year things are better in morale terms but that's more down to the fact the players realise he's doing the best he can, but he's simply not up to it in terms of competing with the top managers. It's noticeable that he's been in the media a lot less this year - only doing the bare minimum - (he wasn't even at the last press day in Cork)
Counihan might have been weak on tactics but his man-management and that side of things was superb - he had huge respect from the players. Where things could get mighty messy if Cuthbert gets the notion into his head that he might want another term - if that happens expect a lot of blowback.
up until a couple of seasons ago I would have agreed, but for me, Kerrigan is much more of a 'team' player of late.
Really looking forward to this game. If Cork are organised defensively, if Gould and O'Connor can somehow make a show of it in the middle, if Hurley and O'Neill are provided with enough ammunition, it may be all to play for in the final 10 mins.
Kerry by 4
If Cork are organised defensively. It's like saying if the Pope was a Muslim.
Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2015, 12:23:15 PM
If Cork are organised defensively. It's like saying if the Pope was a Muslim.
Lads pay attention to what this top analyst says, he said that James O' Donoghue was a poor player last year and that Kerry would get nowhere in the championship, so pay attention to his analysis because he was bang on the money last year.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 03, 2015, 10:01:40 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 03, 2015, 09:33:35 AM
I'd take Kerrigan & O'Connor ahead Doherty, Andy Moran, Ronaldson & Diarmuid O'Connor.
Individually Cork have a lot of outstanding footballers unfortunately for them collectively they under performed for far too long now. Its easy to blame the management but in this case I would, tactically Counihan & Cuthbert appear to be way out of their depth.
I think you are being attracted by Kerrigan's flashy pace - I'd say if you saw any stats in terms of his effectiveness when in possession you'd run a mile. Can't argue with O'Connor - just a lovely kicker of a ball.
Overall Cork have a couple of outstanding intercounty footballers and a lot of reasonable-ish intercounty footballers - for a county the size of Cork it's fairly unimpressive stuff. By rights they should be the natural competitor to Dublin in the resources/money/playing argument but the GAA is booming in Dublin and dying in Cork. They'll have a lovely grand stadium as Frank's monument and no decent teams to play in it.
You look at the Cork squad (missing no-one with injuries) and how many players do you see who are are likely to be really contending for All-Stars, even if things go well for Cork this year.
It's not just tactically Cuthbert is poor - his man management of the squad has been very poor - he's pulled a fair chunk of younger lads in and then dropped them again. The vibes I've heard out of Cork is that last year there was a horrible atmosphere in the camp, this year things are better in morale terms but that's more down to the fact the players realise he's doing the best he can, but he's simply not up to it in terms of competing with the top managers. It's noticeable that he's been in the media a lot less this year - only doing the bare minimum - (he wasn't even at the last press day in Cork)
Counihan might have been weak on tactics but his man-management and that side of things was superb - he had huge respect from the players. Where things could get mighty messy if Cuthbert gets the notion into his head that he might want another term - if that happens expect a lot of blowback.
Kerrigan hasn't made the most of his talent, he's been nowhere near consistent enough for cork but that may stem from the management and that he appears to get shifted around. James Horan was worried enough by Kerrigan by giving Keegan a man marking job on Kerrigan or so it appeared to me. I'm not claiming he's outstanding but he's a superior player to Moran, D O'Connor, Doherty and Ronaldson.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 03, 2015, 03:38:17 PMKerrigan hasn't made the most of his talent, he's been nowhere near consistent enough for cork but that may stem from the management and that he appears to get shifted around. James Horan was worried enough by Kerrigan by giving Keegan a man marking job on Kerrigan or so it appeared to me. I'm not claiming he's outstanding but he's a superior player to Moran, D O'Connor, Doherty and Ronaldson.
That was a game where Cork's named half-forwards were Kerrigan, Mark Collins and Colm O'Driscoll, with both Collins and O'Driscoll's roles involved them drifting back to help their defence for long periods.
The other 3 Cork forwards in that game were Hurley and O'Neill who were inside near the goals while Gould played an attacking link-man midfielder. Basically it made a world of sense for Keegan to be marking Kerrigan and Keegan handled him fairly comfortably - Keegan ended up with a point while Kerrigan ended up with no score which I think gives a fair reflection of who won that battle. Cuthbert left both Donnacha O'Connor and Paddy Kelly on the bench but it was no surprise to see them replace Collins and Colm O'Driscoll.
I would agree that Kerrigan has been shifted around a bit by management and they don't seem to have the best idea of how to use him effectively (but it's not like he is the only one the management don't seem to have a clue how to use effectively - this is the same management team who tried Paddy Kelly as a centre-back and wasted time in the league trying to see if Cadogan might be an option at midfield) but the management haven't been helped by the fact that in a number of games where he has been given his shot he has failed to impress and the fact that he hasn't developed his game very much in all the time he has been involved with the Cork team [although I think that can be levelled at a fair few Cork footballers ; it seems that for a serious chunk of Cork footballers their development seems to stop once they stop playing U21 football. ]
Kerrigan is a serious talent. I'd love to have a player like that available to me.
Value in cork at 5/2. Kerry not a great side at all .
Quote from: Frank Casey on July 02, 2015, 08:49:55 PM
Kerry Team :
1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
2. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
3. Marc Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht
4. Shane Enright Tarbert
5. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
6. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
7. Killian Young Renard
8. David Moran Kerins O'Rahillys
9. Bryan Sheehan St Marys
10. Stephen O'Brien Kenmare
11. Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
13. Barry John Keane Kerins O'Rahillys
14. Kieran Donaghy (C) Austin Stacks
15. James O'Donoghue Killarney Legion
Fir Ionaid
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17. Colm Cooper Dr Crokes
18. Anthony Maher Duagh
19. Paul Geaney Dingle
20. Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore
21. Michael Geaney Dingle
22. Aidan O'Mahony Rathmore
23. Darran O'Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar
24. Tommy Walsh Kerins O'Rahillys
25. Jack Sherwood Firies
26. Paul Murphy Rathmore
Additional Information:
Additional Squad Members
Paul Galvin Finuge
Alan Fitzgerald Castlegregory
Pa Kilkenny Glenbeigh/Glencar
Padraig O'Connor Killarney Legion
Philip O'Connor Cordal
Kieran O'Leary Dr Crokes (Recovering from an Achilles Tendon Injury)
Substitutes Bench -
The Kerry substitutes bench contains five players who started against Donegal in last year's All Ireland Final – Brian Kelly, Aidan O'Mahony, Paul Murphy, Anthony Maher and Paul Geaney.
Marc Ó Sé - Marc Ó Sé will play his 82nd Championship game for Kerry on Sunday thus surpassing his brother Darragh with whom he currently shares 81 Championship appearances for The Kingdom. Their other sibling, Tomás, played 88 championship games for Kerry which is a record.
Colm Cooper is in 4th position in the all time Kerry Championship appearances list on a mere 77!
The Lynes of Cleeney - A link with Sunday's game
The Lynes of Cleeney, within earshot of the Fitzgerald Stadium in Killarney, are a very well known footballing family who played their Club Football with Killarney Legion. Denny, Jackie and Fr Mickey all won All Irelands with Kerry at senior level – and Denny captained Kerry in the Polo Grounds final in '47, a game in which Jackie also played. Jackie went on to train Kerry to 2 All Ireland titles in '69 and '70. Their sister, Maura, married Tom Spillane and was of course mother of Pat, Mick and Tom of Kerry Golden Years fame - Sunday's No. 5 Jonathan Lyne is a grandson of Denny Lyne. Jonathan, who made his Championship debut against Clare in 2012, and made his full championship debut against Tipperary in this year's semi final, started in all of Kerry's seven AFL games this season.
Wonderful post Frank.I`l be dropin this one in the laps of the vet exiles this mornin(accreditation to yourself of course)this is their meat and gravy type info.The appearance figures look so small for lads who`ve been around so long and as towards the Lyne family well what can one say marvellous heritage there and long be it so.Great post.
Is rte down or is it just mine?
mine down as well
Huge crowd
My RTE down too. Anywhere online I can get it?
Over six minutes for the first score, must be two Ulster teams wearing the wrong jerseys.
Rte should have it online. 1-01 to no score for Cork atm for those who can't see it.
Martin Carney.
Why RTE, why?
Kerrigan black carded
Buckley got away with a deliberate pull back.
Ridiculous
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 05, 2015, 02:11:41 PM
Martin Carney.
Why RTE, why?
He probably cheap! Sounds it anyway.
Anybody else think Hurley pulled back going for that fifty city ball on 30 mins in front of kerry goal.
Kerry have popper over two points in the interim
Kerry now 4 up going into half time. Cork with a big wind as well. Looking ominous for them at this stage. No great intensity at all in this game.
Kerry not exactly flying yet still have 1-9 on the scoreboard.
O'Donoghue seems to be destroying Loughrey any time Kerry get the ball to him.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 05, 2015, 02:25:52 PM
Kerrigan black carded
Buckley got away with a deliberate pull back.
Ridiculous
A pull back isnt a black card, a pull down is. Ref got it right.
Brolly and O'Rourke sounding on the TV like Cork are getting hammered! There is only 4 points in it!
O'Donoghue is a great footballer! But Brolly is right, this holding of his face when he is robbed in the tackle is annoying.
The blanket defence has infected the country!
Feel sorry for referees with black card. If Kerrigan had have committed that foul in midfield he probably would have got yellow. Think black was right though.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 05, 2015, 02:49:29 PM
Brolly and O'Rourke sounding on the TV like Cork are getting hammered! There is only 3 points in it!
It looks like a bit of a hammering to be fair. A decent start and after that Cork really flatlined.
Horror of a goal to concede but might make a match of it.
Getting tasty now! Cork two up!
Quote from: Throw ball on July 05, 2015, 02:50:42 PM
The blanket defence has infected the country!
Feel sorry for referees with black card. If Kerrigan had have committed that foul in midfield he probably would have got yellow. Think black was right though.
paudie is doing well. The calls on the cards are correct.
Carney is an embarrasment. Making Tommy Carr sound good-ish
Carney doesn't understand the black card.
O'Connor making a huge difference this year.
Ridiculous penalty for Kerry. Level now. Absolute joke decision.
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 05, 2015, 03:13:44 PM
Ridiculous penalty for Kerry. Level now. Absolute joke decision.
I was defending Paudie but he got that wrong.
Awful decision for penalty
Really bad penalty decision. Two lads with their eyes on the ball. A textbook 50/50.
Kerry two up, Cork look tired. Penalty has decided the game.
The reality is you touch O'Donaghue in the Square it's a penalty! That's the way it goes.
Unbelievable! Cork goal, terrible defending by Kerry.
Tell that Ref get the kerry Blinkers off him, how that a penalty, plus Donaghy pull down deliberate
How many defenders have Kerry brought on from the six subs used?
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 05, 2015, 03:25:47 PM
How many defenders have Kerry brought on from the six subs used?
All six.
Some kick to tie. Serious balls
What a game, replay in limerick?
It appears Armagh refereeing is just as poor as their footballers.
Quote from: gerrykeegan on July 05, 2015, 03:34:10 PM
Some kick to tie. Serious balls
+10000000
Replay in LIMERICK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some game. Ridiculous decision by Hughes with the penalty, Kerry getting another helping hand from refs again this year.
O'Donoghue knows how to win soft penalties.
So now you cant give out about the ref awarding a nonexistent penalty but you bitch all you want about blanket defences
Paudi has long had a reputation for making the game all about him. A ridiculous decision.
Funny how RTE are now trying to shut Brolly up when he goes off on one. Shame they hadn't learned that lesson when he started on Cavanagh.
Got the penalty wrong but I felt the ref gave a couple of soft frees to Cork after (not enough to make up for the peno call)
Kerry hardly got into the Cork half for long stretches yet still ended up with 2-15.
Brolly talking guff to the nth degree.
Lots of scope for Kerry to have a better performance next day out, I think that's Cork's chance is gone.
Quote of the year
" Paudie wouldn't know a penalty if it bit him in the arse"
He is an annoying p***k of a referee. It is always more about him than the players. Someone should tell him at half-time that he had enough TV time
Quote from: tyroneman on July 05, 2015, 03:43:39 PM
Paudi has long had a reputation for making the game all about him. A ridiculous decision.
Funny how RTE are now trying to shut Brolly up when he goes off on one. Shame they hadn't learned that lesson when he started on Cavanagh.
Exactly my point worse Ffinn type of ref. looks like a Boy Scout troop leader not a referee. No offense to any Boy Scout or Boy Scout troop leaders
Publicans in Killarney will be smiling anyway.
In fairness to Hughes you have to look at the penalty decision from his vantage point and it looks like from his view that O Donoghue was pulled down as his body was turned around as he fell to the ground and I think he only consulted with his umpires to see if it was a deliberate pulldown
Different set of rules for Kerry games
Quote from: tyroneman on July 05, 2015, 03:43:39 PM
Paudi has long had a reputation for making the game all about him. A ridiculous decision.
Funny how RTE are now trying to shut Brolly up when he goes off on one. Shame they hadn't learned that lesson when he started on Cavanagh.
It was a terrible decision. Brolly is what he said and what he was eventually was allowed to say. Very obvious that Maloney was tring to cut him off. Should have let him say what he was trying to say and move on. Maloney seems to think that post match analysis should not contain any analysis of things that have already happened.
Personally thought Brolly was right about Cavanagh. As he was right in his comments about JO'D at half time.
Good game but there was no way that was a penalty and with two lads reaching for the ball I don't see how the ref could have felt O'Donoghue was pulled down.
Quote from: maigheo on July 05, 2015, 03:49:39 PM
In fairness to Hughes you have to look at the penalty decision from his vantage point and it looks like from his view that O Donoghue was pulled down as his body was turned around as he fell to the ground and I think he only consulted with his umpires to see if it was a deliberate pulldown
Can't see how that was a penalty from any viewpoint other than possibly the Kerry dug out or the O'Donaghue living room
I thought at first he had given it for the tackle on Donaghy in the air - that was more of a foul than on O'Donoghue.
replay in Killarney july 18th
Quote from: joemamas on July 05, 2015, 03:44:27 PM
Quote of the year
" Paudie wouldn't know a penalty if it bit him in the arse"
He is an annoying p***k of a referee. It is always more about him than the players. Someone should tell him at half-time that he had enough TV time
You must be a hell of a referee.
Quote from: maigheo on July 05, 2015, 04:03:09 PM
replay in Killarney july 18th
A reverse-Mayo so to speak.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 05, 2015, 03:34:44 PM
It appears Armagh refereeing is just as poor as their footballers.
Would love it if the footballers only made one or two bad decisions in a game.
Replay in Killarney again, why? Is it because pairc ui caomh is out of use, if so surely it should go to neutral venue? Or is that the arrangement in Munster.
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Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 05, 2015, 03:34:44 PM
It appears Armagh refereeing is just as poor as their footballers.
Would love it if the footballers only made one or two bad decisions in a game.
Are you PH or a relative. EVerybody makes a mistake. No doubting that.
Can you deny that even when he is a linesman that he is on on the field to the ref more than any other linesman.
My personal opinion is that I hate when the ref or the linesman becomes the story.
Had Brolly a premonition at half time. He gives of about a Kerry player 'acting' at half time then the player 'buys' a penalty in second!
Quote from: joemamas on July 05, 2015, 04:17:32 PM
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Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 05, 2015, 03:34:44 PM
It appears Armagh refereeing is just as poor as their footballers.
Would love it if the footballers only made one or two bad decisions in a game.
Are you PH or a relative. EVerybody makes a mistake. No doubting that.
Can you deny that even when he is a linesman that he is on on the field to the ref more than any other linesman.
My personal opinion is that I hate when the ref or the linesman becomes the story.
You obviously have a personal beef with this referee. We all have refs we do not like particularly. For me that is Joe McQuillan. Others complain about Marty Duffy etc.. A general view of the match today will show most decisions were unbiased and correct.
Quote from: maigheo on July 05, 2015, 04:03:09 PM
replay in Killarney july 18th
Good boost for the winners having a competitive match before the quarters. Big gap otherwise.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 05, 2015, 04:25:03 PM
Quote from: maigheo on July 05, 2015, 04:03:09 PM
replay in Killarney july 18th
Good boost for the winners having a competitive match before the quarters. Big gap otherwise.
It's going to be crushing for Cork in particular if they lose though.
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Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 05, 2015, 03:34:44 PM
It appears Armagh refereeing is just as poor as their footballers.
Would love it if the footballers only made one or two bad decisions in a game.
Are you PH or a relative. EVerybody makes a mistake. No doubting that.
Can you deny that even when he is a linesman that he is on on the field to the ref more than any other linesman.
My personal opinion is that I hate when the ref or the linesman becomes the story.
You obviously have a personal beef with this referee. We all have refs we do not like particularly. For me that is Joe McQuillan. Others complain about Marty Duffy etc.. A general view of the match today will show most decisions were unbiased and correct.
Ahh for crying out loud man will you and the rest ever see the bigger picture, Kerry have a special ride with a lot of officials a lot of the time.My best example today , Sheehan lashed out three times whilst the ref was inbetween the cork player and Sheehan , he seen it , watched it and didn't give him a yellow .
Still nobody has ever answere the very simple question as regards Shane enright last year against Mayo , Reilly gave a penalty for a drag down to the ground , how on earth can you explain how a card wasn't given. You can't , it's f ooking Kerry and they can do what they want.
Donaghy never bloody stops with the aggressive verbals to umpires, refs and linesmen , yet he doesn't give a fook , he is doing it years without punishment.
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Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 05, 2015, 03:34:44 PM
It appears Armagh refereeing is just as poor as their footballers.
Would love it if the footballers only made one or two bad decisions in a game.
Are you PH or a relative. EVerybody makes a mistake. No doubting that.
Can you deny that even when he is a linesman that he is on on the field to the ref more than any other linesman.
My personal opinion is that I hate when the ref or the linesman becomes the story.
You obviously have a personal beef with this referee. We all have refs we do not like particularly. For me that is Joe McQuillan. Others complain about Marty Duffy etc.. A general view of the match today will show most decisions were unbiased and correct.
Ahh for crying out loud man will you and the rest ever see the bigger picture, Kerry have a special ride with a lot of officials a lot of the time.My best example today , Buckley lashed out three times whilst the ref was inbetween the cork player and Buckley , he seen it , watched it and didn't give him a yellow .
Still nobody has ever answere the very simple question as regards Shane enright last year against Mayo , Reilly gave a penalty for a drag down to the ground , how on earth can you explain how a card wasn't given. You can't , it's f ooking Kerry and they can do what they want.
Donaghy never bloody stops with the aggressive verbals to umpires, refs and linesmen , yet he doesn't give a fook , he is doing it years without punishment.
While I see were you are coming from about Kerry - Armagh suffered in the 2006 quarter final when Coldrick was referee - I do not believe referees set out deliberately to favour Kerry. With Eoin Cadigan on the Cork team he could easily have been seen to favour Cork. Cadigan helped out Armagh hurlers - and Crossmaglen footballers I believe - this year.
Quote from: larryin89 on July 05, 2015, 04:29:34 PM
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Quote from: joemamas on July 05, 2015, 04:17:32 PM
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Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 05, 2015, 03:34:44 PM
It appears Armagh refereeing is just as poor as their footballers.
Would love it if the footballers only made one or two bad decisions in a game.
Are you PH or a relative. EVerybody makes a mistake. No doubting that.
Can you deny that even when he is a linesman that he is on on the field to the ref more than any other linesman.
My personal opinion is that I hate when the ref or the linesman becomes the story.
You obviously have a personal beef with this referee. We all have refs we do not like particularly. For me that is Joe McQuillan. Others complain about Marty Duffy etc.. A general view of the match today will show most decisions were unbiased and correct.
Ahh for crying out loud man will you and the rest ever see the bigger picture, Kerry have a special ride with a lot of officials a lot of the time.My best example today , Buckley lashed out three times whilst the ref was inbetween the cork player and Buckley , he seen it , watched it and didn't give him a yellow .
Still nobody has ever answere the very simple question as regards Shane enright last year against Mayo , Reilly gave a penalty for a drag down to the ground , how on earth can you explain how a card wasn't given. You can't , it's f ooking Kerry and they can do what they want.
Donaghy never bloody stops with the aggressive verbals to umpires, refs and linesmen , yet he doesn't give a fook , he is doing it years without punishment.
Jez, Donaghy is a dose alright with the complaining and arm waving. O'Donoghue is not far behind him. Did the player who (in the eyes of the Ref) took O'Donoghue down get a Card? If not why not? Shades of Cafferkey in the semi last year!
God,
listening to marty squad, that Brenda whoever she is one patronizing clown.
fu*k me. Where does RTE unearth these people from.
she sounds like some Dublin(no offense to dublin folk) bird who came down the country to interview people fifty years ago. terrible
Yer wan Brenda is from Kildare, hardly a football county.
Quote from: armaghniac on July 05, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Yer wan Brenda is from Kildare, hardly a football county.
True, the Geezer would never get to Manage a Football power! ;)
apologies to all Dubs then. But she is a dose, as is that Billy Keane who was a guest.
Quote from: joemamas on July 05, 2015, 07:18:30 PM
apologies to all Dubs then. But she is a dose, as is that Billy Keane who was a guest.
Terrible show. Jack O'S was rubbish as well
Quote from: armaghniac on July 05, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Yer wan Brenda is from Kildare, hardly a football county.
Go suck on your one All-Ireland.
It's a game Cork should have won comfortably, they were in too for 3/4's of the game. I'd like to think this will give them confidence for the ends day as opposed to 'they've missed their chance'.
Interesting to see Kerrigan play where he did, he stared well and his black card clearly affected Cork for the rest of he half. I'd put Donaghy's goal down to a lack of experience from Cronin, he should have passed it to Kerrigan and not to Shields who had his back to Buckey. I thought Cadogan was superb on Donaghy's as was most of the Cork team, only Hurley dissapointed. I don't think there's 70 minutes in D O'Connor, he looked very tired 10 minutes before he came off. Alan O'Connor was my man of the match, he dominated the second half long before Moran's black card.
Amazing how Cork have become s weak county that refereeing decisions go against. I did not think a penalty but only after second viewing. That said I thought Geaney was fouled twice in the 67 min chance he shot wide. Cork player ran into him and then accidentally tripped him but Geaney ploughed through both fouls like a bullock. Very enjoyable game and will be great to see the replay.
The penalty was not a penalty but Cork will look back at this and be more sick at the chances they wasted. They were f**king the ball about on the half forward line and not making any positive decisive runs. The match was there for the taking in the last ten minutes and they didn't grab the chance, they played too conservatively.
The Cork goalie must not be able to take a deadball kick without the 'T'. We had a similar chance to win in Limerick with a long range free and didn't take it. I think tactically a short kick is the only option in those last minute situations unless you have an 80% man taking the kick with the missed 20% at least going dead. A deadball there and Kerry were left with no choice but to go for a short kick out which would likely have been stifled.
Cork won't win the next time.
Kerry have Ye all fooled , they're not as good as people make them out to be at all. Cork will win the replay.
Don't buy this nonsense that Cork missed the boat. The bottom line is that they were the better team today and but for a bad decision they would be Munster champions today. Cork showed bottle today that I doubted if they had before the game and I think they still have a good chance in the replay given the fact that the they will feel they were majorly wronged today and have to go back to Kerry's home pitch again for the replay. I'd still favour Kerry slightly but wouldn't be writing off Cork again as much based on today's match.
Why can't they do the replay in Thurles?
Quote from: Main Street on July 05, 2015, 10:44:53 PM
Why can't they do the replay in Thurles?
Cork happy to play in Killarney, next 2 games between the two will be in PUC.
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Quote from: armaghniac on July 05, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Yer wan Brenda is from Kildare, hardly a football county.
Go suck on your one All-Ireland.
Sorry, are you from Kildare or Kerry?
James O'D would give Greg Louganis a right run for his money in the diving stakes. For such a talented player, it's a pity to see it. Kerry people would probably pat him on the back for being cute, but its unpleasant none the less.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2015, 07:43:46 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 05, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Yer wan Brenda is from Kildare, hardly a football county.
Go suck on your one All-Ireland.
Well at least Armagh people can remember an All Ireland.
QuoteDon't buy this nonsense that Cork missed the boat.
Why?
Kerry will have a different team out the next day. I would also expect Kerry to go man to man as BC will try that now that the cat is out of the bag.
Should be a classic if both teams go man to man, Kerry will win a shootout and they never get bullied a 2nd time.
As a matter of interest, when was the last time kerry lost a championship replay?
Quote from: westbound on July 06, 2015, 10:59:45 AM
As a matter of interest, when was the last time kerry lost a championship replay?
Not sure but they did lose the replay to Cork a few days after the three O'Se's father died - I'm rubbish at keeping track of which year was which - but that wasn't so long ago. I did see a stat a while back that Kerry have only been beaten in championship football in Kerry 9 times since 1928. Overall I'm struggling to think of many other replays Kerry have lost.
The 1972 All Ireland Final Replay v Offaly is one anyway. That's what we're reduced to!
Based on Cuthbert's quotes after the game I think he needs someone to explain to him is and isn't a black card
Quote"If you pull a fella down it is a black card. We have got two of them. If you pull a fella down around the neck it is the same as pulling a fella down but it is a yellow card supposedly.
"I don't know the difference. I am not a referee. What do ye think? Ye are asking me the question.
QuoteCynical Behaviour Fouls
1. Deliberately pull down an opponent.
2. Deliberately trip an opponent with the hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
3. Deliberately body collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of a movement of play.
4. Threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or a teammate.
5. Remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
Hate to see managers coming out with this nonsense - a manager of an intercounty team pretending to or not knowing the exact rules. (not sure which is worse)
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 06, 2015, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: westbound on July 06, 2015, 10:59:45 AM
As a matter of interest, when was the last time kerry lost a championship replay?
Not sure but they did lose the replay to Cork a few days after the three O'Se's father died - I'm rubbish at keeping track of which year was which - but that wasn't so long ago. I did see a stat a while back that Kerry have only been beaten in championship football in Kerry 9 times since 1928. Overall I'm struggling to think of many other replays Kerry have lost.
Cork beat them in replays in 1987, 2002, 2006 and 2009. Kerry beat Cork in replays in 1976, 2008 and 2010.
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Quote from: westbound on July 06, 2015, 10:59:45 AM
As a matter of interest, when was the last time kerry lost a championship replay?
Not sure but they did lose the replay to Cork a few days after the three O'Se's father died - I'm rubbish at keeping track of which year was which - but that wasn't so long ago. I did see a stat a while back that Kerry have only been beaten in championship football in Kerry 9 times since 1928. Overall I'm struggling to think of many other replays Kerry have lost.
Cork beat them in replays in 1987, 2002, 2006 and 2009. Kerry beat Cork in replays in 1976, 2008 and 2010.
That's a lot of replays! A Munster Council extra revenue-type conspiracy here, I reckon...
Alan O'Connor had the game of his life in the 2nd half.
Hard to see that happening again.
Kerry will start with Moran & Maher.
Quote from: Beffs on July 05, 2015, 10:57:45 PM
James O'D would give Greg Louganis a right run for his money in the diving stakes. For such a talented player, it's a pity to see it. Kerry people would probably pat him on the back for being cute, but its unpleasant none the less.
I think that's a bit harsh. Certainly I would argue neither of the incidents being cited from yesterday's game was a dive.
The first was early on when Kerrigan pushed him in the back (which should have been a free), causing O'Donoghue to fall heavily on his shoulder (which he had an operation on that kept him out all year until recently). I'm pretty sure he was genuinely hurt and he was down for some time afterwards.
The second was the dubious penalty. In that case, Collins ran into him, knocking and pulling him down. With the benefit of replays, we can see that this appears to have been an accidental collision rather than a deliberate foul, but it wasn't a case of O'Donoghue diving on the ground either. It's not like he threw himself down with minimal contact or feigned injury. He did appeal for a penalty, but in fairness he likely didn't know himself that it wasn't a deliberate foul - he had his eyes on the ball and what he would have felt was someone running into him and pulling him down.
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Quote from: Beffs on July 05, 2015, 10:57:45 PM
James O'D would give Greg Louganis a right run for his money in the diving stakes. For such a talented player, it's a pity to see it. Kerry people would probably pat him on the back for being cute, but its unpleasant none the less.
I think that's a bit harsh. Certainly I would argue neither of the incidents being cited from yesterday's game was a dive.
The first was early on when Kerrigan pushed him in the back (which should have been a free), causing O'Donoghue to fall heavily on his shoulder (which he had an operation on that kept him out all year until recently). I'm pretty sure he was genuinely hurt and he was down for some time afterwards.
The second was the dubious penalty. In that case, Collins ran into him, knocking and pulling him down. With the benefit of replays, we can see that this appears to have been an accidental collision rather than a deliberate foul, but it wasn't a case of O'Donoghue diving on the ground either. It's not like he threw himself down with minimal contact or feigned injury. He did appeal for a penalty, but in fairness he likely didn't know himself that it wasn't a deliberate foul - he had his eyes on the ball and what he would have felt was someone running into him and pulling him down.
Dubious penalty!! Look at it again and you'll see JOD fouled Collins.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 06, 2015, 03:56:19 PM
Dubious penalty!! Look at it again and you'll see JOD fouled Collins.
How exactly did JOD foul Collins
Footage here.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/kerry-penalty-video/299735
Hughes was a fair distance from the action as Walsh had put in a very long ball after receiving a foot medium length forward foot pass.
Am I the only one who thinks Cadogan's was restricting Donaghy's jump - his other hand from the one Cadogan used to bat the ball away was pretty much on Donaghy's chest - I've given penalties for similar.
With the way Collins kinda of drags down JOD's body a bit, you can see why the mistake was made.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 06, 2015, 05:08:12 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 06, 2015, 03:56:19 PM
Dubious penalty!! Look at it again and you'll see JOD fouled Collins.
How exactly did JOD foul Collins
Footage here.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/kerry-penalty-video/299735
Hughes was a fair distance from the action as Walsh had put in a very long ball after receiving a foot medium length forward foot pass.
Am I the only one who thinks Cadogan's was restricting Donaghy's jump - his other hand from the one Cadogan used to bat the ball away was pretty much on Donaghy's chest - I've given penalties for similar.
With the way Collins kinda of drags down JOD's body a bit, you can see why the mistake was made.
Collins went to catch the ball at that point look at where JOD's left arm is, he's pulling at the top half of Collins' arm causing Collins to drop the ball.
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Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 06, 2015, 03:56:19 PM
Dubious penalty!! Look at it again and you'll see JOD fouled Collins.
How exactly did JOD foul Collins
Footage here.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/kerry-penalty-video/299735
Hughes was a fair distance from the action as Walsh had put in a very long ball after receiving a foot medium length forward foot pass.
Am I the only one who thinks Cadogan's was restricting Donaghy's jump - his other hand from the one Cadogan used to bat the ball away was pretty much on Donaghy's chest - I've given penalties for similar.
With the way Collins kinda of drags down JOD's body a bit, you can see why the mistake was made.
Collins went to catch the ball at that point look at where JOD's left arm is, he's pulling at the top half of Collins' arm causing Collins to drop the ball.
I don't see any pulling on Collins arm - I see JOD has his hand on the ball. JOD does go down a bit easily with Collins's fairly impact into him- I wouldn't really class it as a dive - more as riding the challenge to the ground. Collins was very unlucky with his momentum - the fact that JOD had streaked away/opened up so much space from Loughrey (who I thought was utterly destroyed any time the ball came near the pair of them) really didn't help matters as it made it look very much like a situation where JOD had gotten free and the covering defender had dived in - normally in those sort of situations the defender is going to end up committing a foul.
Anyone any thought on Cadogan's challenge on Donaghy? I'm surprised more hasn't been made of it. Donaghy never stops mouthing but I do think that he falls into the category of being seen as a big man who can look after himself and defenders get a bit more leeway in terms of pulling and dragging him. It would be interesting to see how he has done in terms of being awarded penalties/frees over the course of his career.
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Quote from: twohands!!! on July 06, 2015, 05:08:12 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 06, 2015, 03:56:19 PM
Dubious penalty!! Look at it again and you'll see JOD fouled Collins.
How exactly did JOD foul Collins
Footage here.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/kerry-penalty-video/299735
Hughes was a fair distance from the action as Walsh had put in a very long ball after receiving a foot medium length forward foot pass.
Am I the only one who thinks Cadogan's was restricting Donaghy's jump - his other hand from the one Cadogan used to bat the ball away was pretty much on Donaghy's chest - I've given penalties for similar.
With the way Collins kinda of drags down JOD's body a bit, you can see why the mistake was made.
Collins went to catch the ball at that point look at where JOD's left arm is, he's pulling at the top half of Collins' arm causing Collins to drop the ball.
I don't see any pulling on Collins arm - I see JOD has his hand on the ball. JOD does go down a bit easily with Collins's fairly impact into him- I wouldn't really class it as a dive - more as riding the challenge to the ground. Collins was very unlucky with his momentum - the fact that JOD had streaked away/opened up so much space from Loughrey (who I thought was utterly destroyed any time the ball came near the pair of them) really didn't help matters as it made it look very much like a situation where JOD had gotten free and the covering defender had dived in - normally in those sort of situations the defender is going to end up committing a foul.
Anyone any thought on Cadogan's challenge on Donaghy? I'm surprised more hasn't been made of it. Donaghy never stops mouthing but I do think that he falls into the category of being seen as a big man who can look after himself and defenders get a bit more leeway in terms of pulling and dragging him. It would be interesting to see how he has done in terms of being awarded penalties/frees over the course of his career.
Look at the movement of Collins' right arm, its not a natural movement. JOD has got his arm inside Collins' and tugs at it and then they both go to ground. Forwards have been getting away with that for years and still are.
Have heard a lot of waffle about Donaghy and O'Donaghue being the oppressed. Both almost always get more than the benefit of the doubt on fouls and were greatly helped in this in winning an AI title last year. Both are consistently in the Referees ear, holding hands out and mouthing officials. It works for them and why would they change when it gets them closer to their goals.
J'OD dived for that penalty. Arms out, appealing for a penalty he doesn't deserve is as bad as simulating a foul.
Kerrigan I think it was tackled JOD in the corner in the 1st half and he went down holding his face like he'd been hit by Conor McGregor even though he was barely touched. Fair play to Brolly for pointing it out.
I played in defence all my career and if a ref gave a penalty decision like that against me I'd be going mad. Have to fancy Kerry for the replay. More room for improvement than Cork. Kerry had the worst defensive record in the league and they were all over the place yesterday.For all the talk of their bench yesterday all the experience was in the midfielders/forwards. Didnt have quality defender to come on and OSe struggled with the pace of the game. Will probably cost them later on in the year
Riding the challenge to the ground ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: StephenC on July 06, 2015, 08:07:24 PM
Riding the challenge to the ground ;D ;D ;D
It's not quite a dive.... ;)
The Dubs and the Tymoanies are obsessed with the Kingdom
Anybody know what will happen as regards TV coverage of the Cork-Kerry replay?
As far as I know Sky have rights to two qualifiers being shown on July 18th which will be Fermanagh v Roscommon and Longford v Kildare.
Given that the Cork-Kerry replay is a 7pm start, you would think this means it's being lined up for live TV coverage. Sky, you would presume, will push to replace one of their scheduled live qualifier matches with live Cork-Kerry coverage.
However there appears to be a problem here on two fronts.
i) Sky do not appear to have rights to show a provincial final exclusively live.
ii) If RTE want to show the Cork-Kerry replay live, Sky will surely object given that their 7pm qualifier match would be upstaged by a far more attractive live match directly clashing with it on RTE.
Will the Cork-Kerry replay be shown live at all, one wonders? If Sky get the rights, there will be a Liveline furore over it given that every provincial final since 1998 has been shown live on free to air TV (the Clare-Waterford replay in 1998 was the last not to be shown live, from my memory). If it's not shown at all, there will be an even bigger Liveline furore.
Surely the obvious thing to do was to have it throw in at 2:30 or 3pm and have it live on RTE, thus avoiding a clash? Perhaps the match will be brought forward when this issue is considered?
A 7pm start in Killarney is also disastrous for anybody wanting to travel by train. Irish Rail, comically, is advertising "great value return fares" for this match, however the last train out of Killarney is 7:38pm.
If I am not mistaken the Fermanagh v Roscommon and Longford v Kildare matches are this weekend.
The mid afternoon slot is unworkable as the killarney marathon is on that day according to newstalk this evening.
Quote from: Throw ball on July 07, 2015, 08:09:10 PM
If I am not mistaken the Fermanagh v Roscommon and Longford v Kildare matches are this weekend.
Correct. 3B games on that weekend between the 4 winners of 2B.
Did Sky show last year's Connacht Final?? -
Just watched the match there now - thought that the penalty looked like a penalty in real time but only because JOD pulled the defenders arm into him as he fell. Depending on where you're from, you can call it cuteness or cheating.
Thought the first possible black card incident (where cadogan was fouled) was a banker. Donaghy's one less so imo
Kerry look like they have more room for improvement.
Quote from: Sidney on July 07, 2015, 07:19:06 PM
Anybody know what will happen as regards TV coverage of the Cork-Kerry replay?
As far as I know Sky have rights to two qualifiers being shown on July 18th which will be Fermanagh v Roscommon and Longford v Kildare.
Given that the Cork-Kerry replay is a 7pm start, you would think this means it's being lined up for live TV coverage. Sky, you would presume, will push to replace one of their scheduled live qualifier matches with live Cork-Kerry coverage.
However there appears to be a problem here on two fronts.
i) Sky do not appear to have rights to show a provincial final exclusively live.
ii) If RTE want to show the Cork-Kerry replay live, Sky will surely object given that their 7pm qualifier match would be upstaged by a far more attractive live match directly clashing with it on RTE.
Will the Cork-Kerry replay be shown live at all, one wonders? If Sky get the rights, there will be a Liveline furore over it given that every provincial final since 1998 has been shown live on free to air TV (the Clare-Waterford replay in 1998 was the last not to be shown live, from my memory). If it's not shown at all, there will be an even bigger Liveline furore.
Surely the obvious thing to do was to have it throw in at 2:30 or 3pm and have it live on RTE, thus avoiding a clash? Perhaps the match will be brought forward when this issue is considered?
A 7pm start in Killarney is also disastrous for anybody wanting to travel by train. Irish Rail, comically, is advertising "great value return fares" for this match, however the last train out of Killarney is 7:38pm.
It'll probably be deferred coverage on RTE. Coverage will likely start around 9.
No lights in Killarney. Bit of a gamble with this fixture.
Extra time might be dusky enough depending on the weather.
Losing team could possibly be playing for 3 weekends in a row.
I actually thought it was strange that the replay wasn't this Saturday coming. I suppose with all the hurling and football qualifiers they didn't want a clash, but when you consider the whole point of the A and B side was to prevent teams losing a provincial final and playing the next week, Munster have walked either Cork or Kerry into that precise situation.
The losers of the Munster final are due out in round 4A on July 25th. If the replay was this saturday, they'd have the full 2 weeks beforehand. Now they'll have 1 week, and as mentioned above, if they win that they'll be out in a quarter final the next week again.
Quote from: lenny on July 08, 2015, 08:00:45 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 07, 2015, 07:19:06 PM
Anybody know what will happen as regards TV coverage of the Cork-Kerry replay?
As far as I know Sky have rights to two qualifiers being shown on July 18th which will be Fermanagh v Roscommon and Longford v Kildare.
Given that the Cork-Kerry replay is a 7pm start, you would think this means it's being lined up for live TV coverage. Sky, you would presume, will push to replace one of their scheduled live qualifier matches with live Cork-Kerry coverage.
However there appears to be a problem here on two fronts.
i) Sky do not appear to have rights to show a provincial final exclusively live.
ii) If RTE want to show the Cork-Kerry replay live, Sky will surely object given that their 7pm qualifier match would be upstaged by a far more attractive live match directly clashing with it on RTE.
Will the Cork-Kerry replay be shown live at all, one wonders? If Sky get the rights, there will be a Liveline furore over it given that every provincial final since 1998 has been shown live on free to air TV (the Clare-Waterford replay in 1998 was the last not to be shown live, from my memory). If it's not shown at all, there will be an even bigger Liveline furore.
Surely the obvious thing to do was to have it throw in at 2:30 or 3pm and have it live on RTE, thus avoiding a clash? Perhaps the match will be brought forward when this issue is considered?
A 7pm start in Killarney is also disastrous for anybody wanting to travel by train. Irish Rail, comically, is advertising "great value return fares" for this match, however the last train out of Killarney is 7:38pm.
It'll probably be deferred coverage on RTE. Coverage will likely start around 9.
Just confirmed that RTE have it live.
Just heard on RTE that the replay will be shown live on RTE 2.
Happy days.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on July 08, 2015, 11:37:10 AM
Just heard on RTE that the replay will be shown live on RTE 2.
Happy days.
Looks like Sky agreed to move their game to an earlier slot
Quote from: Hound on July 08, 2015, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on July 08, 2015, 11:37:10 AM
Just heard on RTE that the replay will be shown live on RTE 2.
Happy days.
Looks like Sky agreed to move their game to an earlier slot
If they did then fair dues to them.
To listen to some people you would swear that they were the devil incarnate.
With all the Cork-Kerry draws in Munster, the winner of the replay has never won the All-Ireland, however for the last 3 replays, the loser has won the All-Ireland.
I think that Kerry are miles off the pace at the moment but with the preferentialprovincial system they shouldnt need to peak too early.
Quote from: rrhf on July 08, 2015, 05:40:39 PM
I think that Kerry are miles off the pace at the moment but with the preferentialprovincial system they shouldnt need to peak too early.
That game last Sunday was streets ahead any other game in ANY province so far, apart from Donegal v Tyrone, which was still a bit below it understandably so less of the whining please.
The losers Last Sunday (now on the 18th) will have to play 3 weeks on the trot culminating in facing the Dubs. Plenty incentive to peak there if you ask me.
But of course, the level of analysis of the actual game on here is of the "Hoganstand level, so..
Cork won't fear Kerry.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 09, 2015, 11:34:05 AM
Cork won't fear Kerry.
The aul clichés are great, like the way Meath are never beaten even if they're ten point down.......oh wait ;D
I think you have something there. It seems like only Mayo is holding true to its cliché profile.
Quote from: Hardy on July 09, 2015, 12:02:17 PM
I think you have something there. It seems like only Mayo is holding true to its cliché profile.
>:(
Hardy, I enjoy your posts , always raise an aul smile.
Are yis sure it's on TV live?
I can't see it anywhere.
RTE2 16:40 http://www.rte.ie/tv/listings_rtetwo.html (http://www.rte.ie/tv/listings_rtetwo.html)
The Saturday Game
Jacqui Hurley presents live coverage of the All Ireland Hurling Championship Round 2 qualifier between Dublin and Limerick from Semple Stadium, Thurles. Throw in 5.oopm.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa//thesundaygame.html (http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa//thesundaygame.html)
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/gaa-on-sky (http://www1.skysports.com/watch/gaa-on-sky)
SAT 11TH JULY
Clare v Cork
All-Ireland SHC Qualifiers , Sky Sports 3 HD (18:30)
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 10, 2015, 10:55:56 AM
Are yis sure it's on TV live?
I can't see it anywhere.
RTE2 16:40 http://www.rte.ie/tv/listings_rtetwo.html (http://www.rte.ie/tv/listings_rtetwo.html)
The Saturday Game
Jacqui Hurley presents live coverage of the All Ireland Hurling Championship Round 2 qualifier between Dublin and Limerick from Semple Stadium, Thurles. Throw in 5.oopm.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa//thesundaygame.html (http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa//thesundaygame.html)
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/gaa-on-sky (http://www1.skysports.com/watch/gaa-on-sky)
SAT 11TH JULY
Clare v Cork
All-Ireland SHC Qualifiers , Sky Sports 3 HD (18:30)
It's not on til next Saturday
Ahhhhhh!!!!!
I thought I heard that on Monday but a lad from Skerries told me it was on this weekend. Eejit
OK sorry lads
God maybe I'll go to it. Always wanted to go to a Munster final with my red hand flag with me
That's if its not burned in Omagh this weekend
I heard the Kerry County Board just appointed Maurice Deegan ref for the replay.
Jim Gavin was right back in March.
http://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/gavin-kerry-player-reactions-put-ref-decisions-under-pressure-31031830.html
Quote from: Hardy on July 09, 2015, 12:02:17 PM
I think you have something there. It seems like only Mayo is holding true to its cliché profile.
:)
Perhaps but the Mayo ladies aren't great now either.
This will be real championship football, losers know they're out!
No changes for Cork
Team Cork Senior Football
1. Ken O'Halloran (Bishopstown)
2. Michael Shields (St. Finbarr's) Capt.
3. Eoin Cadogan (Douglas)
4. James Loughrey (Mallow)
5. Barry O'Driscoll (Nemo Rangers)
6. Brian O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
7. Stephen Cronin (Nemo Rangers)
8. Alan O'Connor (St. Colum's)
9. Fintan Goold (Macroom)
10. Paul Kerrigan (Nemo Rangers)
11. Donncha O'Connor (Ballydesmond)
12. Kevin O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
13. Colm O'Neill (Ballyclough)
14. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
15. Brian Hurley (Castlehaven)
Subs:
16. Paddy O'Shea (St. Vincent's)
17. Jamie O'Sullivan (Bishopstown)
18. Noel Galvin (Ballincollig)
19. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
20. Tomás Clancy (Fermoy)
21. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)
22. Patrick Kelly (Ballincollig)
23. John Hayes (Carbery Rangers)
24. Colm O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
25. Daniel Goulding (Éire Óg)
26. Donal Óg Hodnett (O'Donovan Rossa)
Selectors: Brian Cuthbert (Bishopstown) - Manager, Owen Sexton, (Kilbrittain), Ciaran O'Sullivan (Urhan), Don Davis (O'Donovan Rossa), Ronan McCarthy (Douglas).
4 changes on Kerry team. Out go Fionn Fitzgerald, who levelled the game for Kerry in additional-time, Peter Crowley, Stephen O'Brien and Barry John Keane, scorer of 0-3 in the 2-15 to 3-12 stalemate.
In their place, Aidan O'Mahony steps into the full-back slot.
Paul Murphy, man of the match in the All-Ireland final last year, is stationed at wing-back.
Anthony Maher joins David Moran in midfield with Bryan Sheehan slotting into the wing-forward role.
And Paul Geaney replaces Keane at corner-forward.
Additionally, Kerry have named Paul Galvin alongside the likes of Colm Cooper in reserve
Kerry (v Cork)
1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
2. Marc Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht
3. Aidan O'Mahony Rathmore
4. Shane Enright Tarbert
5. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
6. Killian Young Renard
7. Paul Murphy Rathmore
8. Anthony Maher Duagh
9. David Moran Kerins O'Rahilly's
10. Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
11. Bryan Sheehan St Mary's
12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
13. Paul Geaney Dingle
14. Kieran Donaghy Austin Stacks
15. James O'Donoghue Killarney Legion
Subs
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17. Colm Cooper Dr Crokes
18. Barry John Keane Kerins O'Rahilly's
19. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
20. Stephen O'Brien Kenmare
21. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
22. Michael Geaney Dingle
23. Darran O'Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar
24. Tommy Walsh Kerins O'Rahilly's
25. Jack Sherwood Firies
26. Paul Galvin Finuge
Missed round 1 of this battle so hopefully we'll be happy in some pub in Thurles watching round 2.
They'll probably meet later on again in Croker.
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 17, 2015, 01:14:46 AM
Missed round 1 of this battle so hopefully we'll be happy in some pub in Thurles watching round 2.
They'll probably meet later on again in Croker.
Given the losers if they win R4 play Dublin and both would have to reach the AI final to play again this is it for these two this year.
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 16, 2015, 11:39:20 PM
4 changes on Kerry team. Out go Fionn Fitzgerald, who levelled the game for Kerry in additional-time, Peter Crowley, Stephen O'Brien and Barry John Keane, scorer of 0-3 in the 2-15 to 3-12 stalemate.
In their place, Aidan O'Mahony steps into the full-back slot.
Paul Murphy, man of the match in the All-Ireland final last year, is stationed at wing-back.
Anthony Maher joins David Moran in midfield with Bryan Sheehan slotting into the wing-forward role.
And Paul Geaney replaces Keane at corner-forward.
Additionally, Kerry have named Paul Galvin alongside the likes of Colm Cooper in reserve
Kerry (v Cork)
1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
2. Marc Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht
3. Aidan O'Mahony Rathmore
4. Shane Enright Tarbert
5. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
6. Killian Young Renard
7. Paul Murphy Rathmore
8. Anthony Maher Duagh
9. David Moran Kerins O'Rahilly's
10. Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
11. Bryan Sheehan St Mary's
12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
13. Paul Geaney Dingle
14. Kieran Donaghy Austin Stacks
15. James O'Donoghue Killarney Legion
Subs
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17. Colm Cooper Dr Crokes
18. Barry John Keane Kerins O'Rahilly's
19. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
20. Stephen O'Brien Kenmare
21. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
22. Michael Geaney Dingle
23. Darran O'Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar
24. Tommy Walsh Kerins O'Rahilly's
25. Jack Sherwood Firies
26. Paul Galvin Finuge
Hmmmm. So Kerry are forced to show their hand earlier than they would have liked.
Quote from: Syferus on July 17, 2015, 01:16:40 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 17, 2015, 01:14:46 AM
Missed round 1 of this battle so hopefully we'll be happy in some pub in Thurles watching round 2.
They'll probably meet later on again in Croker.
Given the losers if they win R4 play Dublin and both would have to reach the AI final to play again this is it for these two this year.
Is there not another draw after Round 4 Syf?
If Cork lose Munster and then beat Kildare they can't draw Kerry in QF so they play Dublin.
If Westmeath BT Fermanagh they can't play Dublin....
.
Carney not easy listened to.
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
Carney not easy listened to.
Just said that the players were getting their rocks off.
He could say anything. Except anything sensible.
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
Carney not easy listened to.
Must be the northern accent.
Non plussed!
Trouts, worms. Wtf?
2 great scores by Geaney.
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 07:10:46 PM
2 great scores by Geaney.
Last one was picked with a little guided roll straight of the ground!
Fantastic display of blocking the ball from both sides.
Sheehan can hit a ball !
A lovely thrust by Kerrigan.
More black card waffle. These clowns get paid to spout this shite.
Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 07:14:03 PM
A lovely thrust by Kerrigan.
strongly built fellow
Cork are well up for this one so far.
Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2015, 07:17:39 PM
More black card waffle. These clowns get paid to spout this shite.
Every single fecking free is "almost in black card territory"
Two halfwits
Never a free
Donaghy having a bit of a mare so far.
Do deegan and lane normally do ladies football? Both leave little or no physical contact go. As for the commentators.......
Is there a muzzle for Carney ?
Nothing" malicious " in it.
Just as Martin says there's little chance of Cork scoring as Cork are set up so defensively Kerrigan wrecks the net.
Lol
If Carney gets much more high pitched only dogs will make out what he is rambling on about
Embarrassing from shields!
Quote from: Put Up That Flag on July 18, 2015, 07:33:45 PM
If Carney gets much more high pitched only dogs will make out what he is rambling on about
What's the word of the day - malicious, flashpoint, or belt
This is almost as bad as Galway v Derry !
I suppose it shows how bad the conditions are for football today!
Apart from kerrigans goal this cork Kerry match is like a Cross between wwf and a bad rugby match ( though aren't they all!! ;) )
Kerry will win on tko -sorry points!
The amount of sh@&e talked by these two is unbelievable. Giving completely wrong reasons for free kicks etc. Don't have the sense to look at where the ref gives the frees. Numpties!
It's a much better game than Galway v Derry.
Shields should hang his head in shame.
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 18, 2015, 07:35:54 PM
This is almost as bad as Galway v Derry !
I suppose it shows how bad the conditions are for football today!
Apart from kerrigans goal this cork Kerry match is like a Cross between wwf and a bad rugby match ( though aren't they all!! ;) )
Kerry will win on tko -sorry points!
You're having a laugh right?? This is football played in bad conditions, Derry Galway was non-football played in shite conditions. There's a world of difference between the games.
Quote from: CD on July 18, 2015, 07:36:36 PM
The amount of sh@&e talked by these two is unbelievable. Giving completely wrong reasons for free kicks etc. Don't have the sense to look at where the ref gives the frees. Numpties!
Loved it when Carney said there was 'very little chance of a score' three seconds before Kerrigans goal. Expert analysis!
Quote from: Jinxy on July 18, 2015, 07:36:46 PM
It's a much better game than Galway v Derry.
Shields should hang his head in shame.
Very much so Jinxy.
Not a bad game of football so far given the terrible conditions compared with the first day out.
I could watch this stuff every week. There has been plenty of poor stuff played so far this year and will be worse played before the year is out.
Referee giving some terrible soft frees to Kerry.
Shields a disgrace. Shame Joe isn't there to give him the Cavanagh treatment......yeh right
Should bring in retrospective bans for diving which would cut it out straight away. It's something we shouldn't tolerate at all.
Quote from: tyroneman on July 18, 2015, 07:44:38 PM
Referee giving some terrible soft frees to Kerry.
Shields a disgrace. Shame Joe isn't there to give him the Cavanagh treatment......yeh right
He got a fair roasting, wind yer neck in.
And from Dessie, who is no amateur at manufacturing frees himself. Enjoying DD on the panel.
Quote from: tyroneman on July 18, 2015, 07:44:38 PM
Referee giving some terrible soft frees to Kerry.
Shields a disgrace. Shame Joe isn't there to give him the Cavanagh treatment......yeh right
Deegan killing cork with the soft frees he has given kerry.At least he didn't fall for Shields bulls**t dive.
Martin Carney should be pensioned off to some retirement home as far away from a microphone as possible. Like listening to a senile old pensioner everyone is too polite to tell to stop talking. Has not got a clue
You wonder what it will take for Bryan Sheehan to get booked, persistent fouling
Quote from: Zulu on July 18, 2015, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 18, 2015, 07:35:54 PM
This is almost as bad as Galway v Derry !
I suppose it shows how bad the conditions are for football today!
Apart from kerrigans goal this cork Kerry match is like a Cross between wwf and a bad rugby match ( though aren't they all!! ;) )
Kerry will win on tko -sorry points!
You're having a laugh right?? This is football played in bad conditions, Derry Galway was non-football played in shite conditions. There's a world of difference between the games.
Think it's yourself having a laugh
The cynical ( both well versed in the dark arts traditionally - Galway and Derry aren't) play by both teams means they can't complain about refs decisions here
He is not a good ref but fairly consistent
Quote from: dublin7 on July 18, 2015, 07:50:47 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on July 18, 2015, 07:44:38 PM
Referee giving some terrible soft frees to Kerry.
Shields a disgrace. Shame Joe isn't there to give him the Cavanagh treatment......yeh right
Deegan killing cork with the soft frees he has given kerry.At least he didn't fall for Shields bulls**t dive.
Martin Carney should be pensioned off to some retirement home as far away from a microphone as possible. Like listening to a senile old pensioner everyone is too polite to tell to stop talking. Has not got a clue
After the schemozzele in the first half he said "both teams are just getting their rocks off". It takes something to make Canning sound coherent but Carney is doing it.
Dat delicious angle.
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 18, 2015, 07:59:24 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 18, 2015, 07:50:47 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on July 18, 2015, 07:44:38 PM
Referee giving some terrible soft frees to Kerry.
Shields a disgrace. Shame Joe isn't there to give him the Cavanagh treatment......yeh right
Deegan killing cork with the soft frees he has given kerry.At least he didn't fall for Shields bulls**t dive.
Martin Carney should be pensioned off to some retirement home as far away from a microphone as possible. Like listening to a senile old pensioner everyone is too polite to tell to stop talking. Has not got a clue
After the schemozzele in the first half he said "both teams are just getting their rocks off". It takes something to make Canning sound coherent but Carney is doing it.
Sure ye know what he meant ;D
Commentary is a disgrace. A tackle round the neck is not a ' soft free'. Especially when the replay clearly shows it.
Moronic stuff
Fabulous corner back performance from Enright. Fantastic to see a defender trusted to win his personal battle rather than needing cover all the time. . Obviously, Carney will attribute this to a poor performance from Hurley.
Touch of the Mikey Sheehy there!
Great finish by Geaney - 1-2 now ?
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:14:02 PM
Great finish by Geaney - 1-2 now ?
don't lke the roaring into shields face once he scored it
Jesus, Carney just called Donncha Walsh a donkey
Not far wrong there. More of a workhorse maybe.
Kerry players getting away with all sorts of cynicism purely because they are in kerry jerseys. Deegan is a joke
Carney attributing all the quick thinking for the goal to The Gooch, watch the replay after the match Walsh realises straight away what's on and starts his run from outside the 45 long before Cooper evens spots what's on
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 18, 2015, 08:15:56 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:14:02 PM
Great finish by Geaney - 1-2 now ?
don't lke the roaring into shields face once he scored it
Jesus, Carney just called Donncha Walsh a donkey
Wouldn't be a fan of the roaring myself but was it Geaney that Shields tried to get sent off in the 1st half? If so I'd let him away with that one
Carney saying I didn't see it but I don't think there was anything untoward!!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/kerry-v-cork-plaacutemaacutes-picardia-and-penalty-pain-343072.html
Deegan falling for the cute hoor plamas hook line and sinker
Quote from: moysider on July 18, 2015, 08:17:07 PM
Not far wrong there. More of a workhorse maybe.
I think that's what he was trying to say. He said donkey.... horse
Quote from: glens73 on July 18, 2015, 08:20:45 PM
Carney saying I didn't see it but I don't think there was anything untoward!!
No matter if someone is getting their head cleaved off he reckons there was nothing "malicious"
Quote from: glens73 on July 18, 2015, 08:20:45 PM
Carney saying I didn't see it but I don't think there was anything untoward!!
No only a kerryman (Sheehan?) throwing a box off the ball. Look forward to the incident being disected after the game. :o
Canning & Carney are 2 cretins.
Fair play Kerry - great win for them abs credit to both teams for putting on a great shoe despite the terrible conditions.
Cork potentially play Dublin now in quarter final. Interesting.
Corks attacking embarrassingly bad.
Kerry and Dublin can do whatever the fcuk they want on a pitch and no one calls them out on it.
Cynical nasty dirty .....words that only apply to Ulster teams in the southern media and RTE.
Carney tried to justify how easy Shields went down in first half by saying he was tired from the run out with ball-what a tool!
Fitzmaurice earned his corn along the line this evening making some big calls.
Marc O'Se gets Munster medal number 9 ?
What an average player O'Donoghue is say compared to the rossie forwards, isn't that what Syferus was telling us last year :o :o :o
Quote from: tyroneman on July 18, 2015, 08:32:10 PM
Kerry and Dublin can do whatever the fcuk they want on a pitch and no one calls them out on it.
Cynical nasty dirty .....words that only apply to Ulster teams in the southern media and RTE.
Ehh, Dubs weren't playing tonight??
How about you write your complaint on your arm and show it to the next corner forward you mark....
"Hi Pot, I'm the kettle..."
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:31:41 PM
Fair play Kerry - great win for them abs credit to both teams for putting on a great shoe despite the terrible conditions.
Cork potentially play Dublin now in quarter final. Interesting.
I dunno. Cork haven t enough imo in spite the ref riding them a fair bit. Pity they didn t do it the first day. Dublin v Kerry at qf. Now that would have been interesting. One of the big 2 gone before semis would have opened it up a biteen.
Quote from: on the hop on July 18, 2015, 07:52:54 PM
You wonder what it will take for Bryan Sheehan to get booked, persistent fouling
Totally agree, at half-time i thought he might have been related to Deegan
Enjoyed that! Weather atrocious, Shehan was easily man of the match despite what that Carney tool said. Actually thought Loughrey did as well as I've seen anyone on O'Donoghue. Corks marquee forwards, who were so dangerous in the league had zero impact.
Quote from: tyroneman on July 18, 2015, 08:32:10 PM
Kerry and Dublin can do whatever the fcuk they want on a pitch and no one calls them out on it.
Cynical nasty dirty .....words that only apply to Ulster teams in the southern media and RTE.
Please stop this embarrassing whinging.
Kerry playing Fermanagh/Westmeath in QF
::)
Colm O'Neill and Brian Hurley very well held and when that happened Cork were always going to struggle.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 18, 2015, 08:15:56 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:14:02 PM
Great finish by Geaney - 1-2 now ?
don't lke the roaring into shields face once he scored it
Jesus, Carney just called Donncha Walsh a donkey
I'm nearly sure he actually called him a donkeyhorse.
Quote from: passedit on July 18, 2015, 08:26:34 PM
Quote from: glens73 on July 18, 2015, 08:20:45 PM
Carney saying I didn't see it but I don't think there was anything untoward!!
No only a kerryman (Sheehan?) throwing a box off the ball. Look forward to the incident being disected after the game. :o
Twas Sheehan, got taken off straight afterwards too...
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 18, 2015, 07:57:22 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 18, 2015, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 18, 2015, 07:35:54 PM
This is almost as bad as Galway v Derry !
I suppose it shows how bad the conditions are for football today!
Apart from kerrigans goal this cork Kerry match is like a Cross between wwf and a bad rugby match ( though aren't they all!! ;) )
Kerry will win on tko -sorry points!
You're having a laugh right?? This is football played in bad conditions, Derry Galway was non-football played in shite conditions. There's a world of difference between the games.
Think it's yourself having a laugh
The cynical ( both well versed in the dark arts traditionally - Galway and Derry aren't) play by both teams means they can't complain about refs decisions here
He is not a good ref but fairly consistent
Ah will you stop!! One game was decent and one was awful. The refs were poor in both mind you.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 18, 2015, 08:45:30 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 18, 2015, 08:15:56 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:14:02 PM
Great finish by Geaney - 1-2 now ?
don't lke the roaring into shields face once he scored it
Jesus, Carney just called Donncha Walsh a donkey
I'm nearly sure he actually called him a donkeyhorse.
He's lucky. A double compliment.
Oh and how was O'Donoughue the MOM??
Quote from: Zulu on July 18, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
Oh and how was O'Donoughue the MOM??
Testament to the player considering he was about Kerry's 11th best player.
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:42:03 PM
Colm O'Neill and Brian Hurley very well held and when that happened Cork were always going to struggle.
Hurley overrated.O Neill carried the Cork forward line in the first game and today well held. The end result only seven scores.
Quote from: Zulu on July 18, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
Oh and how was O'Donoughue the MOM??
Because he's James O Donoghue I assume.
Or that Martin carney was picking it.
O'Donoghue would have been subbed if he wasn't who he was: would love to see a statistical analysis of his performance. Martin Carney is absolutely clueless.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 18, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:42:03 PM
Colm O'Neill and Brian Hurley very well held and when that happened Cork were always going to struggle.
Hurley overrated.O Neill carried the Cork forward line in the first game and today well held. The end result only seven scores.
Hurley seems to have shot his bolt. He looked scary in the league a few times. Not the same space or intensity in championship I suppose.
Dessie didn't think he was man of the match either!
Quote from: moysider on July 18, 2015, 08:59:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 18, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:42:03 PM
Colm O'Neill and Brian Hurley very well held and when that happened Cork were always going to struggle.
Hurley overrated.O Neill carried the Cork forward line in the first game and today well held. The end result only seven scores.
Hurley seems to have shot his bolt. He looked scary in the league a few times. Not the same space or intensity in championship I suppose.
Think Hurley is class but Cork aren't getting it out of him.
Quote from: Minder on July 18, 2015, 08:24:54 PM
Quote from: glens73 on July 18, 2015, 08:20:45 PM
Carney saying I didn't see it but I don't think there was anything untoward!!
No matter if someone is getting their head cleaved off he reckons there was nothing "malicious"
Thought that was hilarious alright. Could he not just say I didn't see it and leave it at that. You could choose any 2 gaaboarders and put them on and they'd be better than that
Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2015, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on July 18, 2015, 08:32:10 PM
Kerry and Dublin can do whatever the fcuk they want on a pitch and no one calls them out on it.
Cynical nasty dirty .....words that only apply to Ulster teams in the southern media and RTE.
Please stop this embarrassing whinging.
Telling it like it is. Same again tonight. A level media playing field would be nice. Not gonna happen.
Anyhow. End of rant as nothing will change.
Quote from: Zulu on July 18, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 18, 2015, 08:59:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 18, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:42:03 PM
Colm O'Neill and Brian Hurley very well held and when that happened Cork were always going to struggle.
Hurley overrated.O Neill carried the Cork forward line in the first game and today well held. The end result only seven scores.
Hurley seems to have shot his bolt. He looked scary in the league a few times. Not the same space or intensity in championship I suppose.
Think Hurley is class but Cork aren't getting it out of him.
Ah now. He's gone missing a fair amount. We know all about talented players not putting it on the field in the championship.
Abysmal match, even with the conditions. Awful refereeing against both teams from Deegan. O'Donoghue getting MOTM was laughable - I thought Loughrey did very well shepherding him. It's all well and good showing left and right for ball and "getting involved" but it's not much use if you don't do anything with it once you have it. Murphy or Moran much more deserving.
Lads, you are deported to Guantanamo Bay and you have the option of selecting your own method of torture.
Would you go with:
a) Listening to the commentary of Ger Canning & Martin Carney on a never-ending loop
b) Listening to the commentary of Marty Morrissey & Martin Carney on a never-ending loop
or
c) being water-boarded by Martin Carney (remember, you won't be able to hear him under the water)
Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 18, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 18, 2015, 08:59:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 18, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:42:03 PM
Colm O'Neill and Brian Hurley very well held and when that happened Cork were always going to struggle.
Hurley overrated.O Neill carried the Cork forward line in the first game and today well held. The end result only seven scores.
Hurley seems to have shot his bolt. He looked scary in the league a few times. Not the same space or intensity in championship I suppose.
Think Hurley is class but Cork aren't getting it out of him.
Ah now. He's gone missing a fair amount. We know all about talented players not putting it on the field in the championship.
I think the signs are there in his game and he has reached heights in the past, league or not, that mark him out as exceptional. Admittedly he needs to produce but it's definitely there IMO.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 18, 2015, 09:14:04 PM
Lads, you are deported to Guantanamo Bay and you have the option of selecting your own method of torture.
Would you go with:
a) Listening to the commentary of Ger Canning & Martin Carney on a never-ending loop
b) Listening to the commentary of Marty Morrissey & Martin Carney on a never-ending loop
or
c) being water-boarded by Martin Carney (remember, you won't be able to hear him under the water)
I'd hate to see what Martin's idea of malicious water-bordering is like.
Was Hurley the man who played like God at full-forward for Cork against Dublin in a quarter-final a few years ago? I've forgotten when it was, Mayo were playing the day after, as I recall, and this one was played under lights. Whoever that guy was went off to Australia then that winter, but I've never heard what became of him. Was it Hurley? Went down under, didn't happen, came back?
Hurley is an odd shape for a modern intercounty player.
He's like a lad that would have played in the 70's.
Very blocky.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 18, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
Was Hurley the man who played like God at full-forward for Cork against Dublin in a quarter-final a few years ago? I've forgotten when it was, Mayo were playing the day after, as I recall, and this one was played under lights. Whoever that guy was went off to Australia then that winter, but I've never heard what became of him. Was it Hurley? Went down under, didn't happen, came back?
That was Ciaran Sheehan. He's off playing AFL in the land of Oz.
Quote from: CD on July 18, 2015, 08:40:25 PM
Enjoyed that! Weather atrocious, Shehan was easily man of the match despite what that Carney tool said. Actually thought Loughrey did as well as I've seen anyone on O'Donoghue. Corks marquee forwards, who were so dangerous in the league had zero impact.
I thought Loughrey was excellent.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 18, 2015, 09:14:04 PM
Lads, you are deported to Guantanamo Bay and you have the option of selecting your own method of torture.
Would you go with:
a) Listening to the commentary of Ger Canning & Martin Carney on a never-ending loop
b) Listening to the commentary of Marty Morrissey & Martin Carney on a never-ending loop
or
c) being water-boarded by Martin Carney (remember, you won't be able to hear him under the water)
(d) Listening to Tyroners whinging
(e) reading Syfín's half million posts non stop
Quote from: Rossfan on July 18, 2015, 09:38:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 18, 2015, 09:14:04 PM
Lads, you are deported to Guantanamo Bay and you have the option of selecting your own method of torture.
Would you go with:
a) Listening to the commentary of Ger Canning & Martin Carney on a never-ending loop
b) Listening to the commentary of Marty Morrissey & Martin Carney on a never-ending loop
or
c) being water-boarded by Martin Carney (remember, you won't be able to hear him under the water)
(d) Listening to Tyroners whinging
(e) reading Syfín's half million posts non stop
(f) hearing Rossfan continually write off the careers of Cregg and Donie Shine only to be proven wrong the next week
Have watched a heap of games now where with 10 minutes to go the team leading by 3+ points will do one or all of the following to waste time and kill the flow of play.
Players (from the team leading) who get fouled (at even the most minor level) and pretend to be in serous pain.
Players (from the team leading) who when conceding an free, jibe, hold onto the ball and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) who when winning a free, jibe and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) pull down a player, run away from the incident, get called back from the ref and get a black card.
Players (from the team leading) just playing keep ball and winding down the clock.
Players (from the team leading) taking an age to take a free and then deciding to leave it to a colleague to take.
Substitutions from the leading team.
The irony is that the way the rules are laid out the referee is your best friend at this point (if you are leading that is). He help burn up as much time as you like and won't add a bit on for it.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
Have watched a heap of games now where with 10 minutes to go the team leading by 3+ points will do one or all of the following to waste time and kill the flow of play.
Players (from the team leading) who get fouled (at even the most minor level) and pretend to be in serous pain.
Players (from the team leading) who when conceding an free, jibe, hold onto the ball and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) who when winning a free, jibe and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) pull down a player, run away from the incident, get called back from the ref and get a black card.
Players (from the team leading) just playing keep ball and winding down the clock.
Players (from the team leading) taking an age to take a free and then deciding to leave it to a colleague to take.
Substitutions from the leading team.
The irony is that the way the rules are laid out the referee is your best friend at this point (if you are leading that is). He help burn up as much time as you like and won't add a bit on for it.
You'd have been feeling awful refreshed if you watched us last weekend so.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
Have watched a heap of games now where with 10 minutes to go the team leading by 3+ points will do one or all of the following to waste time and kill the flow of play.
Players (from the team leading) who get fouled (at even the most minor level) and pretend to be in serous pain.
Players (from the team leading) who when conceding an free, jibe, hold onto the ball and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) who when winning a free, jibe and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) pull down a player, run away from the incident, get called back from the ref and get a black card.
Players (from the team leading) just playing keep ball and winding down the clock.
Players (from the team leading) taking an age to take a free and then deciding to leave it to a colleague to take.
Substitutions from the leading team.
The irony is that the way the rules are laid out the referee is your best friend at this point (if you are leading that is). He help burn up as much time as you like and won't add a bit on for it.
Whilst the others are cynical you can't really complain about that. What dya expect them to do? Hand the ball back to the opposition?
All that is spot on. The best solution would be an independent 'ball in play' clock implemented for the last ten minutes.
Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 09:55:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
Have watched a heap of games now where with 10 minutes to go the team leading by 3+ points will do one or all of the following to waste time and kill the flow of play.
Players (from the team leading) who get fouled (at even the most minor level) and pretend to be in serous pain.
Players (from the team leading) who when conceding an free, jibe, hold onto the ball and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) who when winning a free, jibe and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) pull down a player, run away from the incident, get called back from the ref and get a black card.
Players (from the team leading) just playing keep ball and winding down the clock.
Players (from the team leading) taking an age to take a free and then deciding to leave it to a colleague to take.
Substitutions from the leading team.
The irony is that the way the rules are laid out the referee is your best friend at this point (if you are leading that is). He help burn up as much time as you like and won't add a bit on for it.
You'd have been feeling awful refreshed if you watched us last weekend so.
I was away on Holidays. Just got sight of 2 minutes highlights Ros/Ferm on RTE Player today. Penalty was never a penalty! I suppose you can put it down to what us Mayo people now call a Cormac Reilly moment!
Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2015, 10:01:25 PM
All that is spot on. The best solution would be an independent 'ball in play' clock implemented for the last ten minutes.
GAA don't like hooters or stop clocks
Everybody loves hooters.
Quote from: trileacman on July 18, 2015, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
Have watched a heap of games now where with 10 minutes to go the team leading by 3+ points will do one or all of the following to waste time and kill the flow of play.
Players (from the team leading) who get fouled (at even the most minor level) and pretend to be in serous pain.
Players (from the team leading) who when conceding an free, jibe, hold onto the ball and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) who when winning a free, jibe and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) pull down a player, run away from the incident, get called back from the ref and get a black card.
Players (from the team leading) just playing keep ball and winding down the clock.
Players (from the team leading) taking an age to take a free and then deciding to leave it to a colleague to take.
Substitutions from the leading team.
The irony is that the way the rules are laid out the referee is your best friend at this point (if you are leading that is). He help burn up as much time as you like and won't add a bit on for it.
Whilst the others are cynical you can't really complain about that. What dya expect them to do? Hand the ball back to the opposition?
It's exactly what i expect when you have the ball as much as the other listed items when you don't. This was just a to do list when ahead. It was not labeling cynical play!
Quote from: baoithe on July 18, 2015, 09:24:52 PM
Quote from: CD on July 18, 2015, 08:40:25 PM
Enjoyed that! Weather atrocious, Shehan was easily man of the match despite what that Carney tool said. Actually thought Loughrey did as well as I've seen anyone on O'Donoghue. Corks marquee forwards, who were so dangerous in the league had zero impact.
I thought Loughrey was excellent.
Me too. The commentary was embarrassing.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 18, 2015, 10:06:58 PM
Everybody loves hooters.
Yes and the bigger.... er I mean louder, the better.
Quote from: bennydorano on July 18, 2015, 10:10:00 PM
Quote from: baoithe on July 18, 2015, 09:24:52 PM
Quote from: CD on July 18, 2015, 08:40:25 PM
Enjoyed that! Weather atrocious, Shehan was easily man of the match despite what that Carney tool said. Actually thought Loughrey did as well as I've seen anyone on O'Donoghue. Corks marquee forwards, who were so dangerous in the league had zero impact.
I thought Loughrey was excellent.
Me too. The commentary was embarrassing.
Very much so.
There was nothing malicious in it, though.
Quote from: moysider on July 18, 2015, 10:12:30 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 18, 2015, 10:06:58 PM
Everybody loves hooters.
Yes and the bigger.... er I mean louder, the better.
Ger Canning likes Huge ones
I thought the Cork sextet didn t fire on the night.
Limp up front with little or no penetration and a bit soft at the back.
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I wonder why Marty's shirts are always missing the top 3 buttons.
I thought that was a massive effort from Kerry, in a game played at a relentless pace from beginning to end.
Quote from: Main Street on July 18, 2015, 11:02:56 PM
I wonder why Marty's shirts are always missing the top 3 buttons.
I thought that was a massive effort from Kerry, in a game played at a relentless pace from beginning to end.
The wimen.
Anymore I'm going to have to watch the matches with the volume turned down. Carney with a pint or two on him?
Cork fought hard but just lacking that extra bit of talent to swing it. Far too many over hit passes into the full forwards and also over complicated their hand passing in the half forwards. Had the possession to win that game. Entertaining stuff and hard fought.
Shame on Shields for his pathetic dive though.
James Loughrey MOM for me. Held O Donaghue to a solitary point from play and very little else. A defensive masterclass.
Quote from: bannside on July 18, 2015, 11:57:14 PM
James Loughrey MOM for me. Held O Donaghue to a solitary point from play and very little else. A defensive masterclass.
James was good alright. He was ably assisted by 2/3 other Cork lads who swarmed James.
Paul Murphy excellent. Maher and Moran held sway in the middle and the old dog for the hard road O'Mahony brought steel and everything else to the Kerry defence.
Quote from: Zulu on July 18, 2015, 08:47:50 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 18, 2015, 07:57:22 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 18, 2015, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 18, 2015, 07:35:54 PM
This is almost as bad as Galway v Derry !
I suppose it shows how bad the conditions are for football today!
Apart from kerrigans goal this cork Kerry match is like a Cross between wwf and a bad rugby match ( though aren't they all!! ;) )
Kerry will win on tko -sorry points!
You're having a laugh right?? This is football played in bad conditions, Derry Galway was non-football played in shite conditions. There's a world of difference between the games.
Think it's yourself having a laugh
The cynical ( both well versed in the dark arts traditionally - Galway and Derry aren't) play by both teams means they can't complain about refs decisions here
He is not a good ref but fairly consistent
Ah will you stop!! One game was decent and one was awful. The refs were poor in both mind you.
If you thought that was decent then good luck to you.
We agree to drastically disagree here
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2015, 11:18:20 PM
Anymore I'm going to have to watch the matches with the volume turned down. Carney with a pint or two on him?
God no! Never took a drink in his life!
Quote from: moysider on July 19, 2015, 12:11:11 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2015, 11:18:20 PM
Anymore I'm going to have to watch the matches with the volume turned down. Carney with a pint or two on him?
God no! Never took a drink in his life!
He should start - it might help .....
..... The rest of us listening to him!
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:35:00 PM
Fitzmaurice earned his corn along the line this evening making some big calls.
Marc O'Se gets Munster medal number 9 ?
Sure yer granny would have 10 if she was born in kerry.
Quote from: rrhf on July 19, 2015, 07:06:09 AM
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 08:35:00 PM
Fitzmaurice earned his corn along the line this evening making some big calls.
Marc O'Se gets Munster medal number 9 ?
Sure yer granny would have 10 if she was born in kerry.
True enough. Didn't Spillane have a very athletic granny ? Didn't he say that his granny was faster / better than Francie ?
Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 18, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
Was Hurley the man who played like God at full-forward for Cork against Dublin in a quarter-final a few years ago? I've forgotten when it was, Mayo were playing the day after, as I recall, and this one was played under lights. Whoever that guy was went off to Australia then that winter, but I've never heard what became of him. Was it Hurley? Went down under, didn't happen, came back?
That was Ciaran Sheehan. He's off playing AFL in the land of Oz.
Thanks Syf. That makes Hurley a mystery so. Anthony Moyles on Twitter reckoned Hurley was afraid of Enright. That's a terrible indictment of him if that's the case.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 19, 2015, 10:50:14 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 18, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
Was Hurley the man who played like God at full-forward for Cork against Dublin in a quarter-final a few years ago? I've forgotten when it was, Mayo were playing the day after, as I recall, and this one was played under lights. Whoever that guy was went off to Australia then that winter, but I've never heard what became of him. Was it Hurley? Went down under, didn't happen, came back?
That was Ciaran Sheehan. He's off playing AFL in the land of Oz.
Thanks Syf. That makes Hurley a mystery so. Anthony Moyles on Twitter reckoned Hurley was afraid of Enright. That's a terrible indictment of him if that's the case.
Hurley looked a phenomenal player in under 21's and has played well in the last 2 leagues and was very good in a big game last Summer but can't remember off the top of my head who against so probably deserves his place and i'm a fan but over both Kerry games he was very disappointing and yesterday it looked like he had absolutely no faith in shaking off Enright, i seen him look like he was past Enright 2 or 3 times with the ball only to turn back and look for the offload as if he always felt Enright would catch him.
The one slight excuse i would give him is he's not being played close enough to goal, whenever i've seen him at his best he's been in the fulll forward line coming out to meet the ball and turning to score or run at the defender.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
Have watched a heap of games now where with 10 minutes to go the team leading by 3+ points will do one or all of the following to waste time and kill the flow of play.
Players (from the team leading) who get fouled (at even the most minor level) and pretend to be in serous pain.
Players (from the team leading) who when conceding an free, jibe, hold onto the ball and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) who when winning a free, jibe and have handbags with the opposition.
Players (from the team leading) pull down a player, run away from the incident, get called back from the ref and get a black card.
Players (from the team leading) just playing keep ball and winding down the clock.
Players (from the team leading) taking an age to take a free and then deciding to leave it to a colleague to take.
Substitutions from the leading team.
The irony is that the way the rules are laid out the referee is your best friend at this point (if you are leading that is). He help burn up as much time as you like and won't add a bit on for it.
And the reason the hooter wasn't brought in was because it would allow too many opportunities for time wasting. Laughable ::)
The GAA's love of replays has nothing to do with it of course.