Hi. I'm currently selling a car through carzone. Was contacted today from a person who is currently abroad. He has viewed car on net said he is happy and wants to pay via PayPal then once all I'd cleared arrange for its collection and sending it to him in Ukraine? He wants my PayPal details. I don't have a PayPal account but could set one up. Does this sound legit.? Is PayPal crime proof? If he hadn't mentioned shipping it to Ukraine I Prob wouldn't be suspicious. Any thoughts or experience of PayPal appreciated.
I'd do some serious snooping around on this before going any further.
That sounds major suspect to me. Firstly why anyone would buy a car without seeing it and then why they'd pay for it before getting it shipped to Ukraine.
Just doesn't make sense. He'd likely get car cheaper anywhere else in European.
I'd play along but not a chance I'd give him any details.
Quick google through up several scams
https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Access-and-security/Car-Purchase-Scam/td-p/682717?profile.language=en-gb (https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Access-and-security/Car-Purchase-Scam/td-p/682717?profile.language=en-gb)
No deal I'm afraid.
Sounds legit.
I'm in the middle of a pretty big business deal myself at the moment via the Internet with a Nigerian Prince.
Are there some humans more predisposed to being scammed? Blows my mind that anyone needs to ask for advice on such things...so its a serious rather than a condescending question?
I would string him along and scam the scammer!
Quote from: laoislad on June 23, 2015, 05:16:49 PM
Sounds legit.
I'm in the middle of a pretty big business deal myself at the moment via the Internet with a Nigerian Prince.
Don't do it Laoislad its a scam
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 23, 2015, 05:40:14 PM
I would string him along and scam the scammer!
Correct, time to get inventive... have as much craic with this tosser and waste as much of his time as you can. Then F him off in the rudest way you can dream up. But don't give him any info!
Type the email into google. Usually shows up scam emails
Give him one of these:
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Quote from: laoislad on June 23, 2015, 05:16:49 PM
Sounds legit.
I'm in the middle of a pretty big business deal myself at the moment via the Internet with a Nigerian Prince.
What is for GAA Coaching skills?
Thanks for advice. I've never used paypal obviously the Ukraine thing raised alarm bells. But is paypal not a secure site? Is it not just a middleman for transferring cash. I haven't given him Any info bar my email.
It is pretty secure, however paypal disputes are very common, and they will often times side with the buyer.
Quote from: snoopdog on June 23, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
Thanks for advice. I've never used paypal obviously the Ukraine thing raised alarm bells. But is paypal not a secure site? Is it not just a middleman for transferring cash. I haven't given him Any info bar my email.
Paypal is a secure site, but from what I've read in the above links, the scam sends you fake paypal notifications and asks you to forward money through services like Moneygram.
Just don't leave the Kievs in the ignition when dealing with these guys.
Avoid like the plague and do not click on any links they send you.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 23, 2015, 10:30:18 PM
Just don't leave the Kievs in the ignition when dealing with these guys.
The breaded coating jams it up ;)
Set up a PayPal account, give him your email address and accept the money. Don't follow any links he sends you, instead always log into PayPal.com. Then once you have the money and before you let the car go contact PayPal and ask if the account holder is verified as you have some concerns as its Ukraine. If you follow their advice you won't be out money.
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 24, 2015, 12:15:26 AM
Set up a PayPal account, give him your email address and accept the money. Don't follow any links he sends you, instead always log into PayPal.com. Then once you have the money and before you let the car go contact PayPal and ask if the account holder is verified as you have some concerns as its Ukraine. If you follow their advice you won't be out money.
There isn't going to be any money; it's a scam.
Yip - this is a scam, my aunty was selling some furniture on gumtree and got a similar sort of message, with the buyer not being in Ukraine but somewhere in the NI and wanting to use PayPal to purchase goods they were sending a courier to collect. Some dodgy characters about.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 23, 2015, 10:30:18 PM
Just don't leave the Kievs in the ignition when dealing with these guys.
When it comes to dealing with Ukranians I operate a "Donetsk don't tell" policy
I would love to get a job as a scammer in Nigeria and come up with email scams. They are off the wall really but obviously someone falls for them.
Must be pure elation in the office when they get a result.
Dear Bingo,
I hope you are getting fine on this beautiful day. I most inform your of my current situation. I am a very wealthy seller of fine goods and have made myself a very big fortune. I have more money than sense, LOL. To help others, I like to provide scholarships to good peoples around the planet. It gives me great satisfaction and happiness to share my moneys.
I have followed you on the Facebook and would like to offer you one of my scholarships for your offspring to attend a schooling of there own choosing. These scholarships are very rich with over USD$10,000,000 at my offering for the next number of years. It gives me great happiness to do this.
I hope my offering finds you well and we can do this as quickly as possible as I have great many of people to help.
Just send me your details (Bank details only) and I will arrange wire transfer of moneys as soon as possible.
Kind Happiness
Ugo Prince Moneybags.
Hey hands off Bingo. That's the guy I'm doing the business deal with.
Get your own Nigerian Prince FFS.
Quote from: laoislad on June 24, 2015, 10:18:37 AM
Hey hands off Bingo. That's the guy I'm doing the business deal with.
Get your own Nigerian Prince FFS.
Chill out FFS, the guy is obviously loaded, if we both play it cool, we'll both do very well out of it.
Quote from: snoopdog on June 23, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
Hi. I'm currently selling a car through carzone. Was contacted today from a person who is currently abroad. He has viewed car on net said he is happy and wants to pay via PayPal then once all I'd cleared arrange for its collection and sending it to him in Ukraine? He wants my PayPal details. I don't have a PayPal account but could set one up. Does this sound legit.? Is PayPal crime proof? If he hadn't mentioned shipping it to Ukraine I Prob wouldn't be suspicious. Any thoughts or experience of PayPal appreciated.
u kraine be sure its a scam
Make sure to spend at least a week haggling the price with the guy, be amazed that he grants you your every wish. Then tell him a load of bull about payments and drag him along as long as possible so he doesnt scam some other poor divil.
Thank Christ for this thread; just checked me spam, got a message from Princess Grace Tina Yak, and without revealing too much im on the gravy train from here on. Ill be spending less time on here that's for sure; see ye all around loooooosers ;D
Quote from: snoopdog on June 23, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
Hi. I'm currently selling a car through carzone. Was contacted today from a person who is currently abroad. He has viewed car on net said he is happy and wants to pay via PayPal then once all I'd cleared arrange for its collection and sending it to him in Ukraine? He wants my PayPal details. I don't have a PayPal account but could set one up. Does this sound legit.? Is PayPal crime proof? If he hadn't mentioned shipping it to Ukraine I Prob wouldn't be suspicious. Any thoughts or experience of PayPal appreciated.
It's definitely a scam. Just google "paypal scams carzone" and you'll see what I mean.