1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
2. Pa Kilkenny Glenbeigh/Glencar
3. Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore
4. Paul Murphy Rathmore
5. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
6. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
7. Killian Young Renard
8. Anthony Maher Duagh
9. David Moran Kerins O'Rahillys
10. Stephen O'Brien Kenmare
11. Bryan Sheehan St Marys
12. Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
13. Paul Geaney Dingle
14. Kieran Donaghy (C) Austin Stacks
15. Barry John Keane Kerins O'Rahillys
Fir Ionaid:
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17. Jack Sherwood Firies
18. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
19. Tommy Walsh Kerins O'Rahillys
20. Alan Fitzgerald Castlegregory
21. Shane Enright Tarbert
22. Philip O'Connor Cordal
23. Paul O'Donoghue St Marys
24. Padraig O'Connor Killarney Legion
25. Kieran O'Leary Dr Crokes
26. Daithí Casey Dr Crokes
Crowley, Young and Paul Geaney in for Sherwood,Fitzgerald and Mickey Geaney
9 starters from the final I make it.
Gallagher not expected to make many changes to the team from last week. Major improvement needed as we were terrible against Monaghan. Be disappointed if travel down and don't see an improvement from donegal considering team is at near full strength
1 Paul Durcan
2 Paddy McGrath
3 Neil McGee
4 Eamonn McGee
5 Frank McGlynn
6 Karl Lacey
7 Mark McHugh
8 Neil Gallagher
9 Christy Toye
10 Martin O'Reilly
11 Odhrán Mac Niallais
12 Ryan McHugh
13 Patrick McBrearty
14 Michael Murphy
15 Hugh McFadden
16 Michael Boyle
17 Declan Walsh
18 Anthony Thompson
19 Eamonn Doherty
20 Joe Gibbons
21 Martin McElhinney
22 Gary McFadden
23 Colm McFadden
24 Daniel McLaughlin
25 Eoin McHugh
26 Eamonn Ward
11 starters from the All-Ireland for Donegal
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 12, 2015, 10:53:00 PM
1 Paul Durcan
2 Paddy McGrath
3 Neil McGee
4 Eamonn McGee
5 Frank McGlynn
6 Karl Lacey
7 Mark McHugh
8 Neil Gallagher
9 Christy Toye
10 Martin O'Reilly
11 Odhrán Mac Niallais
12 Ryan McHugh
13 Patrick McBrearty
14 Michael Murphy
15 Hugh McFadden
16 Michael Boyle
17 Declan Walsh
18 Anthony Thompson
19 Eamonn Doherty
20 Joe Gibbons
21 Martin McElhinney
22 Gary McFadden
23 Colm McFadden
24 Daniel McLaughlin
25 Eoin McHugh
26 Eamonn Ward
Happy to see Ryan mchugh back in the half forwards he was wasted in the half back line last week. Think if mark mchugh is to start he needs to be named in the backline
Heading to Tralee more in hope than expectation. We've a terrible away record in Div 1 and I don't think that'll change this weekend. Important that there's some positive reaction to last weekend though. Another performance like that and Rory will be getting a lot of flak.
Quote from: donegal lad on March 12, 2015, 11:08:38 PMHappy to see Ryan mchugh back in the half forwards he was wasted in the half back line last week. Think if mark mchugh is to start he needs to be named in the backline
Would it be fair to say that both McHugh's have been out-of-form a bit so far this year ?
Thought they were both very quiet in the Dublin game and they hasnt been much talk of them in dispatches.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 12, 2015, 11:34:18 PM
Quote from: donegal lad on March 12, 2015, 11:08:38 PMHappy to see Ryan mchugh back in the half forwards he was wasted in the half back line last week. Think if mark mchugh is to start he needs to be named in the backline
Would it be fair to say that both McHugh's have been out-of-form a bit so far this year ?
Thought they were both very quiet in the Dublin game and they hasnt been much talk of them in dispatches.
Would be fair to say that. Ryan has been played in the half backline a lot this year which takes away from his game IMO.
If I'm being honest I don't believe mark has done enough to walk straight back I to the starting 15. He played in the McKenna cup and all league games this year and he has looked off the pace and I believe playing him in the half forwards is sacrificing an attacking option
Is Hugh McFadden a brother of Colm's?
Is Colm injured/rested or not the player he was.
Interesting how Rory takes such a different attitude to the league than Jim did.
Is Jim still at Celtic? Full time?
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 13, 2015, 08:59:45 AM
Is Hugh McFadden a brother of Colm's?
Is Colm injured/rested or not the player he was.
Interesting how Rory takes such a different attitude to the league than Jim did.
Is Jim still at Celtic? Full time?
Hugh McFadden plays with Killybegs and is not related to the St. Michaels lads.
Colm scored 1-06 in a high-scoring challenge game with Galway but there's certainly still plenty of concern that his performance will continue to drop off as it has done for the last 2 years.
Not sure that Rory is taking a different attitude than Jim.
Yeah, Jim is still at Celtic.
McFadden is in his 14th season with the county senior team. How many lads play at the top level after all that time? I am honestly shocked that he is back for another go around. He will have a hard time winning a starting place though, unless McBrearty, Murphy or O'Reilly get injured.
What is most surprising about him has been the speed with which his performance has dropped off, but part of that is that he hit such an amazing level in 2011-2012, when almost everything he hit was dropping over the bar. Some of the long distance points he was hitting in those two seasons were just incredible. He was doing on a weekly basis what the Dublin team did to Donegal in the first half of last year's semi final. Why his accuracy has dropped off (from frees too), maybe he doesn't even know, but it can be precisely traced to the 2013 Ulster final when his off-day was a large reason we lost, even if it was probably indicative of and a result of the intensity Monaghan brought all over the field. In the game before that, against Down, he almost single-handedly won it for us with his accuracy and opportunism on a day when we played pretty poorly.
Quote from: StephenC on March 12, 2015, 11:09:45 PM
Heading to Tralee more in hope than expectation. We've a terrible away record in Div 1 and I don't think that'll change this weekend. Important that there's some positive reaction to last weekend though. Another performance like that and Rory will be getting a lot of flak.
We've a terrible record away to Kerry especially (not unique I'm sure!). I think I can remember us winning maybe once down there over the past two decades or so.
It is probably going to come down to the Tyrone game for us, as I can't see us getting much in Castlebar either.
You never know in the league though. And it depends on what kind of training both teams are at at the moment.
Quote from: J70 on March 13, 2015, 12:38:24 PM
McFadden is in his 14th season with the county senior team. How many lads play at the top level after all that time? I am honestly shocked that he is back for another go around. He will have a hard time winning a starting place though, unless McBrearty, Murphy or O'Reilly get injured.
What is most surprising about him has been the speed with which his performance has dropped off, but part of that is that he hit such an amazing level in 2011-2012, when almost everything he hit was dropping over the bar. Some of the long distance points he was hitting in those two seasons were just incredible. He was doing on a weekly basis what the Dublin team did to Donegal in the first half of last year's semi final. Why his accuracy has dropped off (from frees too), maybe he doesn't even know, but it can be precisely traced to the 2013 Ulster final when his off-day was a large reason we lost, even if it was probably indicative of and a result of the intensity Monaghan brought all over the field. In the game before that, against Down, he almost single-handedly won it for us with his accuracy and opportunism on a day when we played pretty poorly.
I think the reality is that Colm's 2012 level was an outlier rather than a baseline. His form before and after that has been more reflective of his overall career. Still though, it wasn't as if he had just one good game in 2012 or anything. He was on fire that year and should really have won POTY (Lacey got it as he should have received it the previous year IMO). As you say, some of the points he scored that year were truly spectacular. His opener (and Donegal's) against Kerry in the QF set the tone for that game.
Quote from: J70 on March 13, 2015, 12:41:39 PM
Quote from: StephenC on March 12, 2015, 11:09:45 PM
Heading to Tralee more in hope than expectation. We've a terrible away record in Div 1 and I don't think that'll change this weekend. Important that there's some positive reaction to last weekend though. Another performance like that and Rory will be getting a lot of flak.
We've a terrible record away to Kerry especially (not unique I'm sure!). I think I can remember us winning maybe once down there over the past two decades or so.
It is probably going to come down to the Tyrone game for us, as I can't see us getting much in Castlebar either.
You never know in the league though. And it depends on what kind of training both teams are at at the moment.
We really have to beat Tyrone at home although maybe when we meet Mayo, they will have the job done at that stage and will not be as up for it.
Quote from: StephenC on March 13, 2015, 02:23:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 13, 2015, 12:38:24 PM
McFadden is in his 14th season with the county senior team. How many lads play at the top level after all that time? I am honestly shocked that he is back for another go around. He will have a hard time winning a starting place though, unless McBrearty, Murphy or O'Reilly get injured.
What is most surprising about him has been the speed with which his performance has dropped off, but part of that is that he hit such an amazing level in 2011-2012, when almost everything he hit was dropping over the bar. Some of the long distance points he was hitting in those two seasons were just incredible. He was doing on a weekly basis what the Dublin team did to Donegal in the first half of last year's semi final. Why his accuracy has dropped off (from frees too), maybe he doesn't even know, but it can be precisely traced to the 2013 Ulster final when his off-day was a large reason we lost, even if it was probably indicative of and a result of the intensity Monaghan brought all over the field. In the game before that, against Down, he almost single-handedly won it for us with his accuracy and opportunism on a day when we played pretty poorly.
I think the reality is that Colm's 2012 level was an outlier rather than a baseline. His form before and after that has been more reflective of his overall career. Still though, it wasn't as if he had just one good game in 2012 or anything. He was on fire that year and should really have won POTY (Lacey got it as he should have received it the previous year IMO). As you say, some of the points he scored that year were truly spectacular. His opener (and Donegal's) against Kerry in the QF set the tone for that game.
He always had the ability, but not the consistency, which is something he found under McGuinness in the first two seasons. Unfortunately, before that, sporadic games such as the one against Tyrone in 2004 and various league games were the only glimpses we saw of his talent. Maybe suffered a bit like Devenney did in the defensive and physical lockdown under which Ulster Championship games have been played over the past decade or so. I remember the 2007 disaster against Tyrone, where he showed every extreme, scoring a fantastic Murphy-esque goal which was ludicrously disallowed (for a penalty, which he missed!), before losing the rag late on through frustration and all the mouthing off, then slapping Dooher (I think) and getting the line. I don't think he was ever as poor though as he has been over the past 18 months, however. Combination of age and loss of confidence I guess.
Its called age, i seen P Bradley and J brolly and even A.Tohill go from unstoppable and scoring machines 1 season to totally falling away the next as the legs go, Derry probably could have got another 4yrs out of Tohill at Full forward but at 32 he hadn't the leg speed for midfield. the only man i have ever seen kept his speed with age was mickey Linden, was still a flying Machine at 38, unreal!!
Donegal's childish tactics are clearly not putting Sheehan off
Cracking game so far.
Bryan Sheehan putting on a free taking exhibition here.
Ref seems to be giving a lot of benefit of the doubt to Donegal
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 15, 2015, 02:33:54 PM
Ref seems to be giving a lot of benefit of the doubt to Donegal
He did there! Murphy very lucky. Another ref would be producing a red for that and deservedly so. He had a look and led with the elbow. Dirty action!
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 15, 2015, 02:33:54 PM
Ref seems to be giving a lot of benefit of the doubt to Donegal
Some cynical and head high hits on Kerry players. Ref is also giving Donegal some soft frees.Michael Murphy should be gone. Jumped in into Kerry player with an elbow straight to his head. Cowardly & dangerous cheap shot. Gets away with muder because of his reputation.
Ref should work for Coca Cola, biggest bottler in the country, afraid to send him off.
Wondering if the ref left his black and red cards in the dressing room - Donegal should have 1 red and 2 blacks in my opinion plus they got a couple of soft frees.
But kerry aren't cynical !
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Quote from: dublin7 on March 15, 2015, 02:39:14 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 15, 2015, 02:33:54 PM
Ref seems to be giving a lot of benefit of the doubt to Donegal
Some cynical and head high hits on Kerry players. Ref is also giving Donegal some soft frees.Michael Murphy should be gone. Jumped in into Kerry player with an elbow straight to his head. Cowardly & dangerous cheap shot. Gets away with muder because of his reputation.
Ref should work for Coca Cola, biggest bottler in the country, afraid to send him off.
Murphy should be off most weeks but because he doesn't get punished he continues the carry on and so it continues
Quote from: straightred on March 15, 2015, 02:48:57 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 15, 2015, 02:39:14 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 15, 2015, 02:33:54 PM
Ref seems to be giving a lot of benefit of the doubt to Donegal
Some cynical and head high hits on Kerry players. Ref is also giving Donegal some soft frees.Michael Murphy should be gone. Jumped in into Kerry player with an elbow straight to his head. Cowardly & dangerous cheap shot. Gets away with muder because of his reputation.
Ref should work for Coca Cola, biggest bottler in the country, afraid to send him off.
Murphy should be off most weeks but because he doesn't get punished he continues the carry on and so it continues
Right, he's only got one red and one black in the four games so far.
Great rob by Geaney for the goal
Kerry are wiping us out on the kickout.
Kerry have been the better team, but we could easily be at least level here. Some shocking misses.
Aye - three awful wides in the 60th minute will prove costly it seems.
Kerry made fairly hard work of the win in the end - all felt a bit phoney-warish.
Kerry in with a fair-shot at the semis while Donegal can't forget about the relegation issue yet.
Great game of football, boy i love Bryan Sheehan
Pat Spillane said Donegal had 9 players over 30 - that surely can't be right can it?
They have a few,
Gallagher, McFadden,Karl Lacey, Paul Durkan, Eamon McGee, Christy Toye, any others?
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 15, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
They have a few,
Gallagher, McFadden,Karl Lacey, Paul Durkan, Eamon McGee, Christy Toye, any others?
Don't think there are any others - think it was just Pat chatting nonsense. The younger McGee wouldnt be far off 30 by now and Thompson I'd imagine isn't that far off it.
I knew the age profile wasnt great in the Donegal squad but 9 over 30 would be just ludicrous.
Durcan, Eamon McGee, Lacy, Thompson, Gallagher, Toye, McFadden, Walsh all over 30. Neil McGee 30 this year. Pat not too far off.
Thompson wouldn't be. He is 28. 29 this year
Marc O Se, Galvin, Cooper, Aidan O Mahony, Brian Sheehan 30 this year, Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, Kerry would have a few on their panel too.
Just watched a recording of the match. Sheehan is some talent and Buckley put in a masterclass.
McBrearty is up there with the best corner forwards in the game
St Michael gets away with alot!
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 15, 2015, 10:27:46 PM
Thompson wouldn't be. He is 28. 29 this year
Marc O Se, Galvin, Cooper, Aidan O Mahony, Brian Sheehan 30 this year, Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, Kerry would have a few on their panel too.
Is Leon Thompson gone from the panel?
I would be shocked if Galvin makes the Kerry panel. Marc and Aidan O'Mahony may struggle as well and Gooch's injury recovery is still in the unknown category.
Quote from: JoG2 on March 15, 2015, 10:33:24 PM
Just watched a recording of the match. Sheehan is some talent and Buckley pit in a masterclass.
McBrearty is up there with the best corner forwards in the game
St Michael gets away with alot!
He is also on the receiving end of a lot of abuse.
Quote from: Seamus on March 15, 2015, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 15, 2015, 10:27:46 PM
Thompson wouldn't be. He is 28. 29 this year
Marc O Se, Galvin, Cooper, Aidan O Mahony, Brian Sheehan 30 this year, Donnacha Walsh, Donaghy, Kerry would have a few on their panel too.
Is Leon Thompson gone from the panel?
I would be shocked if Galvin makes the Kerry panel. Marc and Aidan O'Mahony may struggle as well and Gooch's injury recovery is still in the unknown category.
Leon Thompson hasn't featured in a league or championship game, as far as I remember, for at least six or seven years.
Was very promising in his youth, especially in '06, until he got a bad injury.
Think he might have been back on the panel occasionally.
Paddy McBrearty is a Rolls Royce of a forward, why he was left on the bench for 50 minutes of last year's All Ireland is one of football's mysteries.
Quote from: Seamus on March 15, 2015, 11:07:23 PM
Paddy McBrearty is a Rolls Royce of a forward, why he was left on the bench for 50 minutes of last year's All Ireland is one of football's mysteries.
He was poor in games he started last season. came off the bench in the Ulster final and that seemed to wake him up. Played well off the bench for the rest of the season.
Compared to some of the fare that is being passed of as football year. I thought this was a very good whole hearted game. I would watch games like that every day of the week.
The ref whoever he was, deserves a pat on the back, I thought he was very good/sensible.
Fine open game, won't have any bearing on the rest of the year though.
Donegal would need to beat Tyrone to have any chance of staying up, but neither team will want to show their hand too much before meeting in the Ulster Championship.
To be honest I don't think Donegal would be that bothered if they went down, Div 2 didn't slow them up too much last year.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on March 16, 2015, 06:15:46 PM
Fine open game, won't have any bearing on the rest of the year though.
Donegal would need to beat Tyrone to have any chance of staying up, but neither team will want to show their hand too much before meeting in the Ulster Championship.
To be honest I don't think Donegal would be that bothered if they went down, Div 2 didn't slow them up too much last year.
The thing is that last year they were promoted out of Division 2 at a canter; a far better reference is what happened in 2013 when they got relegated - especially when you look at the record of other teams who got relegated from Division 1 in the same year's championship.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 16, 2015, 06:24:31 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on March 16, 2015, 06:15:46 PM
Fine open game, won't have any bearing on the rest of the year though.
Donegal would need to beat Tyrone to have any chance of staying up, but neither team will want to show their hand too much before meeting in the Ulster Championship.
To be honest I don't think Donegal would be that bothered if they went down, Div 2 didn't slow them up too much last year.
The thing is that last year they were promoted out of Division 2 at a canter; a far better reference is what happened in 2013 when they got relegated - especially when you look at the record of other teams who got relegated from Division 1 in the same year's championship.
2013 wasn't down that much down to being relegated, it had far more to do with injures & the unavailability of players for training.
The former is in the hands of the gods & the latter has been addressed with the postponement of the club championships till after the county championship is over.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on March 16, 2015, 07:03:05 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 16, 2015, 06:24:31 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on March 16, 2015, 06:15:46 PM
Fine open game, won't have any bearing on the rest of the year though.
Donegal would need to beat Tyrone to have any chance of staying up, but neither team will want to show their hand too much before meeting in the Ulster Championship.
To be honest I don't think Donegal would be that bothered if they went down, Div 2 didn't slow them up too much last year.
The thing is that last year they were promoted out of Division 2 at a canter; a far better reference is what happened in 2013 when they got relegated - especially when you look at the record of other teams who got relegated from Division 1 in the same year's championship.
2013 wasn't down that much down to being relegated, it had far more to do with injures & the unavailability of players for training.
The former is in the hands of the gods & the latter has been addressed with the postponement of the club championships till after the county championship is over.
The fact remains that sides that get relegated from Division 1 generally tend to have an awful championship in the year that they get relegated.
Maybe Donegal will manage to buck that trend but given how the Ulster championship draw went,I would be extremely surprised.
In terms of the management Gallagher in his first year in charge surely won't want to be the manager who gets the team who lost the All-Ireland only last September relegated to Division 2, while for Harte whose term is up this year, it will surely kill any notions of him extending his term.
Moran is really showing last year wasn't a flash in the pan. After two serious injuries he is showing now that he is the best midfielder in Ireland. Buckley was superb...serious amount of work.
Quote from: 5 Sams on March 16, 2015, 07:42:41 PM
Moran is really showing last year wasn't a flash in the pan. After two serious injuries he is showing now that he is the best midfielder in Ireland. Buckley was superb...serious amount of work.
Moran is a fine player, but mid March is a bit soon to be crowning anyone the best midfielder in Ireland.
A lot of players are only starting to come into their own at this time of year. If he is still lording it in September then fair enough, but until then.....
Quote from: BluestackBoy on March 16, 2015, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on March 16, 2015, 07:42:41 PM
Moran is really showing last year wasn't a flash in the pan. After two serious injuries he is showing now that he is the best midfielder in Ireland. Buckley was superb...serious amount of work.
Moran is a fine player, but mid March is a bit soon to be crowning anyone the best midfielder in Ireland.
A lot of players are only starting to come into their own at this time of year. If he is still lording it in September then fair enough, but until then.....
He was lording it in August and September last year as well. That's my point...he is just consolidating it now.