1. Ken O'Halloran (Bishopstown)
2. James Loughrey (Mallow)
3. Michael Shields (St. Finbarr's)
4. Tom Clancy (Clonakilty)
5.Tomás Clancy (Fermoy)
6. Stephen O'Donoghue (Ballincollig)
7. Jamie O'Sullivan (Bishopstown)
8. Eoin Cadogan (Douglas)
9. Fintan Goold (Macroom)
10. Kevin O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
11. John O'Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
12. Colm O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
13. Colm O'Neill (Ballyclough)
14. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
15. Brian Hurley (Castlehaven)
Subs:
16. Michael Martin (Nemo Rangers)
17. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
18. Noel Galvin (Ballincollig)
19. Brian O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
20. Donnacha O'Connor (Ballydesmond)
21. Patrick Kelly (Ballincollig)
22. Paul Kerrigan (Nemo Rangers)
23. Daniel Goulding (Éire Óg)
24. John Hayes (Carbery Rangers)
25. Donal Óg Hodnett (O'Donovan Rossa)
26. Barry O'Driscoll (Nemo Rangers)
Note: Ian Maguire, Ruairi Deane and Kevin Crowley continue their rehab following injury and therefore were not considered for this game.
Cadogan at midfield, Loughrey at corner-back, Collins at full-forward - Cuthbert and co trying this hand their hand at clever is always amusing
1 Brendan Kealy
2 Pa Kilkenny
3 Mark Griffin
4 Fionn Fitzgerald
5 Jonathan Lyne
6 Jack Sherwood
7 Paul Murphy
8 Anthony Maher
9 David Moran
10 Michael Geaney
11 Bryan Sheehan
12 Johnny Buckley
13 Stephen O'Brien
14 Kieran Donaghy
15 Barry John Keane
16 Brian Kelly
17 Tommy Walsh
18 Paul Geaney
19 Killian Young
20 Kieran O'Leary
21 Padraig O'Connor
22 Alan Fitzgerald
23 Philip O'Connor
24 Shane Enright
25 Peter Crowley
26 Paul O'Donoghue
Only change from the Dublin game is Barry John Keane in for Paul Geaney
Cork look very light on options in the full back line and at midfield TH?
Loughrey, Shields and Clancy are all natural half-backs (even though Shields is experienced at 3) and without Maguire the midfield looks very lightweight. Collins will play around the middle I'd assume and Cadogan will play as a sweeper/defender.
Noelie Galvin, once fit, will slot into a corner back spot you'd think. Crowley is a good young player aswell and might be an option. Brian O'Driscoll was doing well in the Sigerson until he got injured, he will probably start.
Not really sure how Sunday will go. Cork will continue the defensive alignment and hope O'Neill and Hurley can get enough scores. Depends on how the Kerry attack fares at the other end to decide the game then.
Looking at the Cork setup I think it looks very much like a side who are being set up to not to lose/ keep the Kerry score down as much as possible/ avoid another hammering at all costs as opposed to actually going out to actively try and win the game. I think the Cork gameplan is going to be as ultra-defensive as possible - The Munster final debacle was all about leaving the Kerry forwards acres of space to play in and not putting any sort of pressure on the good quality ball coming in to them. Can't help but think of the quote about generals fighting the last war.
With the personnel selected it looks very much like the main tactic will be to pack the defence and hit on the break. Cork certainly managed to pack the defence the last day against Donegal, but the whole hit on the break part of things was a massive failure. It will be interesting to see how Cork manage to fare in terms of their attack given how abysmal they were at getting the ball to their dangermen in Donegal with Colm O'Neill having a miserable 4 possessions.
I assume O'Donoghue will be down to mark Donaghy given he did fairly well on him in the Stacks Ballincollig game.
Will be interesting to see which of the Kerry backs is down to mark - I presume it will be Griffin v Hurley again - Hurley was in the form of his life the last time they met, whereas his form since has been a lot more patchy. Will it be Kilkenny or Fitzgerald who will get assigned to O'Neill?
One area of possible weakness to me is the Kerry half-forward line - Geaney hasn't impressed and I thought Sheehan was woeful in the first half of the Dublin game while Buckley was almost invisible. Geaney got hooked at half-time and Sheehan and Buckley got a bit better but I feel that was due to the fact that Kerry owned the ball and they had very little to do in the way of defending. For me both of these are far better players when their team is going forward and attacking as opposed to when the opposition have the ball.
Relegation-wise it's very hard to see either of these 2 go down at this stage and whoever wins would nearly have a foot in the playoffs, however I'd say that the league considerations will be very far from their minds and it will be a case of once more unto the breach to face the old enemy.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 06, 2015, 03:22:46 PM
Looking at the Cork setup I think it looks very much like a side who are being set up to not to lose/ keep the Kerry score down as much as possible/ avoid another hammering at all costs as opposed to actually going out to actively try and win the game. I think the Cork gameplan is going to be as ultra-defensive as possible - The Munster final debacle was all about leaving the Kerry forwards acres of space to play in and not putting any sort of pressure on the good quality ball coming in to them. Can't help but think of the quote about generals fighting the last war.
With the personnel selected it looks very much like the main tactic will be to pack the defence and hit on the break. Cork certainly managed to pack the defence the last day against Donegal, but the whole hit on the break part of things was a massive failure. It will be interesting to see how Cork manage to fare in terms of their attack given how abysmal they were at getting the ball to their dangermen in Donegal with Colm O'Neill having a miserable 4 possessions.
I assume O'Donoghue will be down to mark Donaghy given he did fairly well on him in the Stacks Ballincollig game.
Will be interesting to see which of the Kerry backs is down to mark - I presume it will be Griffin v Hurley again - Hurley was in the form of his life the last time they met, whereas his form since has been a lot more patchy. Will it be Kilkenny or Fitzgerald who will get assigned to O'Neill?
One area of possible weakness to me is the Kerry half-forward line - Geaney hasn't impressed and I thought Sheehan was woeful in the first half of the Dublin game while Buckley was almost invisible. Geaney got hooked at half-time and Sheehan and Buckley got a bit better but I feel that was due to the fact that Kerry owned the ball and they had very little to do in the way of defending. For me both of these are far better players when their team is going forward and attacking as opposed to when the opposition have the ball.
Relegation-wise it's very hard to see either of these 2 go down at this stage and whoever wins would nearly have a foot in the playoffs, however I'd say that the league considerations will be very far from their minds and it will be a case of once more unto the breach to face the old enemy.
On Kerry half-forward line..I'd agree on Mikey Geaney, not up to much really. Not sure what Fitz sees in him. I disagree on Sheehan and Buckley though. I thought Sheehan was moving well enough myself. He's in a lot better nick than he usually is this time of year and barring injury he will improve massively by Summer. He did well enough the last day, kicked some good scores and linked play well mostly. Buckley lost McCaffrey twice in first half which resulted in 2 points, but apart from that he did ok. Not his best game, but he wasn't bad either. Improved out of all order last year. Don't agree with sentiment that he only does it when things are going well. He took Munster final by scruff of the neck early on last year. His score under huge pressure in AI Final was as good as you'll get.
Anyway, aside from that..not sure I'd be putting Griffin on Hurley again. Fionn Fitz or Kilkenny I'd say. Kilkenny has marked him and done ok at least once before. It's not so much about who marks who though, but about keeping the ball away from O'Neill and Hurley by winning the middle third and closing down space in front of the inside line. Cork as you say, will be attempting to counter-attack a lot, so it will be an interesting tactical battle if nothing else.
On recent form Kerry would be favourites, but these games are usually (last year apart) tight and tense encounters, so a goal or 2 may decide the outcome.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 06, 2015, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 06, 2015, 03:22:46 PM
Looking at the Cork setup I think it looks very much like a side who are being set up to not to lose/ keep the Kerry score down as much as possible/ avoid another hammering at all costs as opposed to actually going out to actively try and win the game. I think the Cork gameplan is going to be as ultra-defensive as possible - The Munster final debacle was all about leaving the Kerry forwards acres of space to play in and not putting any sort of pressure on the good quality ball coming in to them. Can't help but think of the quote about generals fighting the last war.
With the personnel selected it looks very much like the main tactic will be to pack the defence and hit on the break. Cork certainly managed to pack the defence the last day against Donegal, but the whole hit on the break part of things was a massive failure. It will be interesting to see how Cork manage to fare in terms of their attack given how abysmal they were at getting the ball to their dangermen in Donegal with Colm O'Neill having a miserable 4 possessions.
I assume O'Donoghue will be down to mark Donaghy given he did fairly well on him in the Stacks Ballincollig game.
Will be interesting to see which of the Kerry backs is down to mark - I presume it will be Griffin v Hurley again - Hurley was in the form of his life the last time they met, whereas his form since has been a lot more patchy. Will it be Kilkenny or Fitzgerald who will get assigned to O'Neill?
One area of possible weakness to me is the Kerry half-forward line - Geaney hasn't impressed and I thought Sheehan was woeful in the first half of the Dublin game while Buckley was almost invisible. Geaney got hooked at half-time and Sheehan and Buckley got a bit better but I feel that was due to the fact that Kerry owned the ball and they had very little to do in the way of defending. For me both of these are far better players when their team is going forward and attacking as opposed to when the opposition have the ball.
Relegation-wise it's very hard to see either of these 2 go down at this stage and whoever wins would nearly have a foot in the playoffs, however I'd say that the league considerations will be very far from their minds and it will be a case of once more unto the breach to face the old enemy.
On Kerry half-forward line..I'd agree on Mikey Geaney, not up to much really. Not sure what Fitz sees in him. I disagree on Sheehan and Buckley though. I thought Sheehan was moving well enough myself. He's in a lot better nick than he usually is this time of year and barring injury he will improve massively by Summer. He did well enough the last day, kicked some good scores and linked play well mostly. Buckley lost McCaffrey twice in first half which resulted in 2 points, but apart from that he did ok. Not his best game, but he wasn't bad either. Improved out of all order last year. Don't agree with sentiment that he only does it when things are going well. He took Munster final by scruff of the neck early on last year. His score under huge pressure in AI Final was as good as you'll get.
Anyway, aside from that..not sure I'd be putting Griffin on Hurley again. Fionn Fitz or Kilkenny I'd say. Kilkenny has marked him and done ok at least once before. It's not so much about who marks who though, but about keeping the ball away from O'Neill and Hurley by winning the middle third and closing down space in front of the inside line. Cork as you say, will be attempting to counter-attack a lot, so it will be an interesting tactical battle if nothing else.
On recent form Kerry would be favourites, but these games are usually (last year apart) tight and tense encounters, so a goal or 2 may decide the outcome.
On Sheehan and Buckley it's not so much a matter of them only being good when Kerry are on top rather they are far better at attacking than defending. I know they are half-forwards but to me they both look somewhat old-fashioned players in that their defensive contribution can be very limited (especially Sheehan) and Buckley seems to be one of those players who can go out of games for long patches.
Sheehan kicked the frees the last day and got one point of play but that was when he was unmarked. I think people over-rate him a bit because of his ability to kick frees and because of his form in previous years - for me he looks a player in decline. I'd be shocked if he is more than a squad player this year [with Moran, Cooper and O'Donoghue pretty much guaranteed starters, his value as a free-taker declines substantially] and I wouldnt be surprised to see him hanging up his boots before too long.
What would make things very interesting to next day if Kerry got off to a flyer and got an early goal.
Quick point from Kerry to start after 32 seconds. Donaghy fouled and BJ Keane converts.
Gould hits the post 1 one 1 with the keeper and Colm O'Neill strikes the rebound home.
BJ Keane from play
Sounds like serious pace to the game from the start
Kevin O'Driscoll point from play
Cork 1-1 Kerry 0-2
Another goal by Cork :o
John O'Rourke
Cork 2-1 Kerry 0-2
Another Goal ;D
Donaghy - sounds like the keeper made a mess of it
Cork 2:1 Kerry 1:2
Cork get a point after a great save by Kealy
Colm O'Driscoll
Cork 2:2 Kerry 1:2
No blanket here ;D
Black card for Paul Murphy 11 minutes
Killian Young on to replace him
Colm O'Neill scores the free.
Cork 2:3 Kerry 1:2
A ball saved off the line by Griffin to deny Cork another goal.
"There was more talk this week about Paul Galvin than Kim Kardashian's new hair" radio Kerry special
Colm O'Neill free
Cork 2-4 Kerry 1-2
Another goal for Cork :o :o
John O'Rourke
Cork 3-4 Kerry 1-2
Kerry defence getting destroyed here apparently
Kerry a point from a BJ Keane free and a score from play
Kerry 1:4 Cork 3:4
Tommy Walsh on for Bryan Sheehan
Peter Crowley replaces Sherwood
Bjk hits the post with a free and Stephen O'Brien first time kicks over the bar
Kerry 1:5 Cork 3:4
Kerry 2:5 Cork 3:4
Kerry Goal
High ball to Donaghy offloads to Tommy Walsh and goal
Fists flying and scrap breaks out after
Yellows all around from the schmozzle - not sure of 3 or 4
Kerry 2:6 Cork 3:7
Frantic stuff
Kerry 2:6 Cork 3:7 at HT
Goals galore !!!
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 08, 2015, 02:38:19 PM
Kerry 2:6 Cork 3:7 at HT
Goals galore !!!
What channel is showing the game?
http://www.radiokerry.ie cracking game.
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 08, 2015, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 08, 2015, 02:38:19 PM
Kerry 2:6 Cork 3:7 at HT
Goals galore !!!
What channel is showing the game?
Listening to it on the wireless Radio Kerry - TG4 showing it delayed after the hurling.
Thanks lads.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 08, 2015, 02:38:19 PM
Kerry 2:6 Cork 3:7 at HT
Goals galore !!!
Thanks God for teams that actually try to play.
Maher gone of at HT for Alan Fitzgerald
Kerry 2:7 Cork 3:8
Cork 3:11 Kerry 2:7
7 point game. Cork sounding a lot more comfortable now
Cork 3:12 Kerry 2:7
Cork forwards in flying form - Cork have barely kicked a wide I'd say.
Donaghy hasnt really featured in the 2nd half
Donnacha O'Connor on for Cork and puts it over the bar with his first touch. Class is permanent.
Cork 3:13 Kerry 2:8
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 08, 2015, 03:08:39 PM
Cork 3:12 Kerry 2:7
Cork forwards in flying form - Cork have barely kicked a wide I'd say.
Donaghy hasnt really featured in the 2nd half
Shot his bolt against the Dubs
Kerry have sounded woeful in the 2nd half - kicked an array of wides.
Cork putting the hurt on Kerry in the league again - can't help think things will be different come Championship.
Cork 3:15 Kerry 2:8
Ten point game now after a Donnacha O'Connor free
Cork running the bench now bringing Kerrigan on now
2nd half a non-event compared to first with Cork strolling home.
Still Cork 3:16 Kerry 2:9
Cork 3:17 Kerry 2:9
Another Donnacha O'Connor point
Why didn't they bring Galvin back for last year's semi!
FT Cork 3:17 Kerry 2:9
Big question is will it be a repeat scenario of last year, especially when you consider the quantity Kerry have to bring back.
Kerry's score difference has taken a serious battering which might be important later on.
Didn't see this game but reading about it there now
Was it a dirty game?
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http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2015/0308/685475-cork-v-kerry/ (http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2015/0308/685475-cork-v-kerry/)
I don't think it was a remotely dirty game. This was a one off incident which ended with a yellow card for Donaghy and a couple of other players.
Quote from: thebuzz on March 10, 2015, 12:47:45 PM
I don't think it was a remotely dirty game. This was a one off incident which ended with a yellow card for Donaghy and a couple of other players.
Yeah definitely don't think there was much in the way of dirt/nastiness in the game - that dogpile came when there was some mild nonsense after Kerry's 2nd goal - there was a bit of a flashpoint and a load of players on both sides were grappling together in a crowd in a bit of a hold me back let me at em cluster and then one of the Cork players stuck an arm around Tommy Walsh's neck from behind and pulled him to the ground and something like 10/12 players ended up on the ground as a result like fallen skittles.
Ref wasn't great - he missed a blatant trip by one of the Kerry players at one stage and a blatant frontal charge by a Cork player at another. I did think Cadogan for Cork was probably a bit lucky the ref had a hands-off/let it flow approach (it really is no surprise how schmozzles break out in games with refs who adopt this approach) - and down the line if I had to bet on one player from Cork to get in trouble at some stage it would be him. For Kerry I would be very surprised if there aren't further incidents with Donaghy at some stage given the nature of his game and his tendency to never shut up. I feel he could easily end up being a liability for Kerry. It will be interesting to see how Fitzmaurice handles him this year especially given his position as captain. I though Kerry looked very one-dimensional in attack with way too much ball being lumped in on top of him.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 10, 2015, 05:42:29 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on March 10, 2015, 12:47:45 PM
I don't think it was a remotely dirty game. This was a one off incident which ended with a yellow card for Donaghy and a couple of other players.
Yeah definitely don't think there was much in the way of dirt/nastiness in the game - that dogpile came when there was some mild nonsense after Kerry's 2nd goal - there was a bit of a flashpoint and a load of players on both sides were grappling together in a crowd in a bit of a hold me back let me at em cluster and then one of the Cork players stuck an arm around Tommy Walsh's neck from behind and pulled him to the ground and something like 10/12 players ended up on the ground as a result like fallen skittles.
Ref wasn't great - he missed a blatant trip by one of the Kerry players at one stage and a blatant frontal charge by a Cork player at another. I did think Cadogan for Cork was probably a bit lucky the ref had a hands-off/let it flow approach (it really is no surprise how schmozzles break out in games with refs who adopt this approach) - and down the line if I had to bet on one player from Cork to get in trouble at some stage it would be him. For Kerry I would be very surprised if there aren't further incidents with Donaghy at some stage given the nature of his game and his tendency to never shut up. I feel he could easily end up being a liability for Kerry. It will be interesting to see how Fitzmaurice handles him this year especially given his position as captain. I though Kerry looked very one-dimensional in attack with way too much ball being lumped in on top of him.
That was Shields...nasty wee fcuker when he wants to be. Doesn't need to do it though because he's a superb player....he should just play the game stop that shite.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 10, 2015, 05:42:29 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on March 10, 2015, 12:47:45 PM
I don't think it was a remotely dirty game. This was a one off incident which ended with a yellow card for Donaghy and a couple of other players.
Yeah definitely don't think there was much in the way of dirt/nastiness in the game - that dogpile came when there was some mild nonsense after Kerry's 2nd goal - there was a bit of a flashpoint and a load of players on both sides were grappling together in a crowd in a bit of a hold me back let me at em cluster and then one of the Cork players stuck an arm around Tommy Walsh's neck from behind and pulled him to the ground and something like 10/12 players ended up on the ground as a result like fallen skittles.
Ref wasn't great - he missed a blatant trip by one of the Kerry players at one stage and a blatant frontal charge by a Cork player at another. I did think Cadogan for Cork was probably a bit lucky the ref had a hands-off/let it flow approach (it really is no surprise how schmozzles break out in games with refs who adopt this approach) - and down the line if I had to bet on one player from Cork to get in trouble at some stage it would be him. For Kerry I would be very surprised if there aren't further incidents with Donaghy at some stage given the nature of his game and his tendency to never shut up. I feel he could easily end up being a liability for Kerry. It will be interesting to see how Fitzmaurice handles him this year especially given his position as captain. I though Kerry looked very one-dimensional in attack with way too much ball being lumped in on top of him.
Yeah but when Gooch and O'Donoghue are playing off him later in the season they'll make good use of all the ball being pumped into him because when he's on form he wins a lot of it. One of his strengths is his unselfishness. Despite being a slabber he is very much a team player.
True 5Sams.
I keep saying I wish Sean Cavanagh would try to copy his style. Catch a high ball. Quick hands or turn and shoot. Hard to defend against without fouling.
Just watched the highlights on RTE player. No mention of the shmozzle or any incidents during the match.