So, how does Armagh look going in to this campaign? Any insight into Armagh's starting 15? I'd expect Armagh to win this one handily, especially playing at home and Tipp having to make such a long trek. How's Tipp been playing?
The team will be named at 9.30pm on Friday, after training. Training was cancelled tonight, hence the delay.
Fcuk me if Tipp beat Armagh it will be some fall from grace. What are ye at there lads?
Quote from: rrhf on January 29, 2015, 09:41:05 PM
Fcuk me if Tipp beat Armagh it will be some fall from grace. What are ye at there lads?
Thats the attitude.....shur all ye have to do is turn up ;)
Quote from: tippabu on January 29, 2015, 09:47:51 PM
Quote from: rrhf on January 29, 2015, 09:41:05 PM
Fcuk me if Tipp beat Armagh it will be some fall from grace. What are ye at there lads?
Thats the attitude.....shur all ye have to do is turn up ;)
RRHF would be a Tyrone man.
Quote from: Throw ball on January 29, 2015, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: tippabu on January 29, 2015, 09:47:51 PM
Quote from: rrhf on January 29, 2015, 09:41:05 PM
Fcuk me if Tipp beat Armagh it will be some fall from grace. What are ye at there lads?
Thats the attitude.....shur all ye have to do is turn up ;)
RRHF would be a Tyrone man.
pity, was hoping ye all thought that way!! I reckon ye should have too much for us but think we will put up a good account of ourselves, think we are too weak at the back without macdonald and imagine ye will find it alot easy to get scores than we will
Quote from: tippabu on January 29, 2015, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on January 29, 2015, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: tippabu on January 29, 2015, 09:47:51 PM
Quote from: rrhf on January 29, 2015, 09:41:05 PM
Fcuk me if Tipp beat Armagh it will be some fall from grace. What are ye at there lads?
Thats the attitude.....shur all ye have to do is turn up ;)
RRHF would be a Tyrone man.
pity, was hoping ye all thought that way!! I reckon ye should have too much for us but think we will put up a good account of ourselves, think we are too weak at the back without macdonald and imagine ye will find it alot easy to get scores than we will
Do not know were we are at the minute. A number of key players have not featured much yet and the keeper position is anyone's guess. There are 4 fit keepers in squad and I don't think any have played a league match for county yet.
Odd McKenna cup for Armagh. One goodish performance in defeat in the first match then it fell away. A lot of talent to come into that side but not all available just yet. Also you would imagine that the intensity would pick up. Geezer has probably been unlucky with the keeper position. His first choice got injured, his experienced replacement has walked and the beauty parade of contenders hasn't yielded a stand out candidate. The other big issue is the full forward line. Its anybody's guess who is going to take up these positions. A couple of contenders havent been fit or have been tied up with the universities, some weird and wonderful experimenting with the positioning of some of the contenders for the full forward line plus McGeeney's natural inclination to defend and flood the middle has robbed the full forward line of numbers. If he has any sense he will start Clarke and McParland in there. Campbell, Kernan and maybe young McKenna in the half forwards to provide a bit of threat.
Tipp won't trouble Armagh on Sunday. I expect Armagh to win comfortably, not only on Sunday but I just don't see us losing a game in Div 3. We might not be great but we are better than anything in this division.
Tipperay have excellent forwards in Conor Sweeny, Michael Quinlivan and Barry Grogan and should give Armagh plenty of trouble
Brian lacey thinks Tipperary has too much firepower for Armagh.
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 30, 2015, 06:34:19 PM
Tipperay have excellent forwards in Conor Sweeny, Michael Quinlivan and Barry Grogan and should give Armagh plenty of trouble
Two young lads in the middle, Colin o riordan and Stephen o brien are very good too, both under 21's. O riordan has two years left at under 21 and even at this stage think he'd get onto any county team, he is a special player.
On laceys comments, we put up really big scores last year but it wasn't against the same calibre of opposition, although we did manage to put up a very big score v div two laois away from home so hopefully we can carry on that progression
Will many Tipp supporters be making the trip up north, Tippabu, in your view?
Quote from: Oraisteach on January 30, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Will many Tipp supporters be making the trip up north, Tippabu, in your view?
There will probably another car load aswell as my own!! don't think the tipp fans will hold up the game due to crowd congestion anyway!!
McNeice, Moriarty, Vernon, Murray. Shields, McKeever, D McKenna, Findon, Campbell, McVerry, McKenna, A Forker, Kernan, C Rafferty, Clarke
Too conservative
Quote from: tippabu on January 30, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on January 30, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Will many Tipp supporters be making the trip up north, Tippabu, in your view?
There will probably another car load aswell as my own!! don't think the tipp fans will hold up the game due to crowd congestion anyway!!
We've had those uncouth Tyrone people creating a queue at the gate, more restrained visitors are very welcome.
How risky is it having Finn Mo as starting FB. He always seems prone to fouling and thereby giving up cheap points?
Quote from: LCohen on January 30, 2015, 09:46:10 PM
McNeice, Moriarty, Vernon, Murray. Shields, McKeever, D McKenna, Findon, Campbell, McVerry, McKenna, A Forker, Kernan, C Rafferty, Clarke
Too conservative
Will we be wearing blue rosettes or something?
Quote from: tippabu on January 30, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on January 30, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Will many Tipp supporters be making the trip up north, Tippabu, in your view?
There will probably another car load aswell as my own!! don't think the tipp fans will hold up the game due to crowd congestion anyway!!
There is a bus going tippabu, organised by the Friends I think. Michael power is your man. Might save you a bit of diesel.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 31, 2015, 08:30:40 AM
Quote from: tippabu on January 30, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on January 30, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Will many Tipp supporters be making the trip up north, Tippabu, in your view?
There will probably another car load aswell as my own!! don't think the tipp fans will hold up the game due to crowd congestion anyway!!
There is a bus going tippabu, organised by the Friends I think. Michael power is your man. Might save you a bit of diesel.
I know yeah, myself and who i travel with are happier doing our own thing though, we'll all end up driving once this year so not too bad.
Quote from: BennyCake on January 31, 2015, 12:09:27 AM
Quote from: LCohen on January 30, 2015, 09:46:10 PM
McNeice, Moriarty, Vernon, Murray. Shields, McKeever, D McKenna, Findon, Campbell, McVerry, McKenna, A Forker, Kernan, C Rafferty, Clarke
Too conservative
Will we be wearing blue rosettes or something?
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant ::)
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 31, 2015, 08:30:40 AM
Quote from: tippabu on January 30, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on January 30, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Will many Tipp supporters be making the trip up north, Tippabu, in your view?
There will probably another car load aswell as my own!! don't think the tipp fans will hold up the game due to crowd congestion anyway!!
There is a bus going tippabu, organised by the Friends I think. Michael power is your man. Might save you a bit of diesel.
Diesel cheap up here anyway..
Quote from: LCohen on January 31, 2015, 12:02:37 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 31, 2015, 12:09:27 AM
Quote from: LCohen on January 30, 2015, 09:46:10 PM
McNeice, Moriarty, Vernon, Murray. Shields, McKeever, D McKenna, Findon, Campbell, McVerry, McKenna, A Forker, Kernan, C Rafferty, Clarke
Too conservative
Will we be wearing blue rosettes or something?
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant ::)
Ah right. As long as I know ;)
Anybody know what radio will be covering the match?
Quote from: BennyCake on January 31, 2015, 02:55:31 PM
Quote from: LCohen on January 31, 2015, 12:02:37 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 31, 2015, 12:09:27 AM
Quote from: LCohen on January 30, 2015, 09:46:10 PM
McNeice, Moriarty, Vernon, Murray. Shields, McKeever, D McKenna, Findon, Campbell, McVerry, McKenna, A Forker, Kernan, C Rafferty, Clarke
Too conservative
Will we be wearing blue rosettes or something?
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant ::)
Ah right. As long as I know ;)
Before the team was announced I commented on the key selection being the full forward line. The McKenna Cup gave little insight into McGeeney's plans in this area other than he tends to play more natural half forwards and leaves the team a little short in fire power - he is too conservative in his tactics. If you assume that Campbell continues to play in the middle then he only has Clarke as a natural "inside" forward. Others can fill in there but its not their natural game or best position. Its Division 3 FFS and we should be putting these sides to the sword. Its not complacency and its not a call for olé tactics. The normal quota of fire power should suffice.
Quote from: Oraisteach on January 31, 2015, 03:13:15 PM
Anybody know what radio will be covering the match?
Think there is audio commentary on Armagh TV.
Thanks Throw Ball. Anyone seen this keeper from Annaghmore? How are his kick-outs? Can he field a ball? Is he tall or short?
God forbid this young lad from Annaghmore has a bad game tomorrow.
All right, lads and lasses. Can't seem to access Armagh TV. Any other station carrying the match? What about Tipp?
Tony, I'm just trying to find out what he's like. I never had a disparaging word to say about McEvoy. The only Armagh player I have reservation about is Finn Mo given his propensity for giving up fouls in front of goal. Just trying to get impressions from those who have seen him play.
I know you weren't.I see big Durcan,the Donegal keeper repeated his All Ireland final boob tonight,sending a short kick out straight into the arms of a Derry forward,who unbelievably missed.imagine an Armagh goalkeeper doing this in a Mc Kenna Cup game! He'd be lynched ::)
Hon Tipp!!
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2chrnec.jpg)
hopefully it'll be a good competitive game tomorrow, if we play to our potential we will be able to cause ye problems but first competitive game of the year you can never predict what sort of performance a team will give
Thanks AFS
Quote from: AFS on February 01, 2015, 12:00:00 AM
Quote from: Oraisteach on January 31, 2015, 07:32:57 PM
All right, lads and lasses. Can't seem to access Armagh TV. Any other station carrying the match? What about Tipp?
http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/
The stream usually doesn't start until a few minutes before throw in.
Is this being shown or is it just audio?
Just audio.
Safe journey to anyone travelling.
Quote from: Oraisteach on January 31, 2015, 06:40:25 PM
Thanks Throw Ball. Anyone seen this keeper from Annaghmore? How are his kick-outs? Can he field a ball? Is he tall or short?
From what I've seen of him he has a decent kickout accurate, 50-55 yards and fairly accurate. Solid type of a player, good shot stopper, but I eoukd give you the caveat that I've only seen him 2-3 times last year in club football.
I would worry a wee bit about this game. Tipp are a bit of an unknown to us and have a fair sprinkling of good young players. They have a sound underage structure which is starting to bear fruit and will have no fear. Armagh are exposed in every game they play in Division 3 as they will be the favourites every time they take the field. Can they take that pressure? It's not an easy task to be constantly favourites as it seeps into your head that all you have to do is turn up. I'm not saying that will definitely be the case but it could. Today's game should be ok but the games down the country against Clare etc won't be easy
Armagh should recall the first game of the League against Louth last year when they played pure rank for 45 mins. Let's hope for better today.
Armagh 1-04. Tipperary 0-04. HT (J Clarke pen.)
Sounds like a drab match.
Armagh should really be ahead by much more. Too many sides and sometimes a bit pedestrian
Armagh 1-04 Tipp 0-07 (after a couple of minutes)
Armagh 1-05 Tipp 0-08 abysmal start to second half, but Tipp player gets a red
Armagh 2-05 Tipp 0-08 (Shields goal) Mallon and Dyas on as subs
Armagh 2-05 Tipp 0-09
Armagh 2-05 Tipp 0-10
Armagh 2-05 Tipp 0-12 Tipp in control right now
Armagh 2-05 Tipp 0-13
Armagh 2-06 Tipp 0-13
Armagh 2-07 Tipp 0-13
Armagh 2-08 Tipp 0-13 FT Tipp can feel very hard done by--had almost all the play in second half. J Clarke scored 1-05
Disappointed for Tipp that they couldn't hold on for at least a draw. Sounded like a decent performance though, especially when they lost a man and fell a goal behind as well. The next step for this team is to close out these sort of victories though. A similar situation happened in cork last year in the championship. It's great that they are getting into those positions, but you have to go on and win them games. Limerick never quite cracked that in the mid 00s and were left unfulfilled as a team. Tipp need to kick on and show they belong, because I know they do.
Tipp were robbed. You would have thought they had had the extra man instead of Armagh. Once again we hadto rely too much on Jamie for scores.
As bad as Armagh have played in a while - bar Jamie. Did not see what the Tipp Man did to get the line but Grogan for Tipp and Forker for Armagh were lucky not to follow. Think the penalty was a very harsh decision. Still playing poor and winning will do.
Quote from: Throw ball on February 01, 2015, 05:38:03 PM
As bad as Armagh have played in a while - bar Jamie. Did not see what the Tipp Man did to get the line but Grogan for Tipp and Forker for Armagh were lucky not to follow. Think the penalty was a very harsh decision. Still playing poor and winning will do.
Ah well, at least we're not Tyrone.
Quote from: Throw ball on February 01, 2015, 05:38:03 PM
Did not see what the Tipp Man did to get the line
The two boys did a bit of rolling about, the Tipp man got on top and punched the Cullyhana lad. It was a red card, but normally you don't see them given.
I assume that black cards are not in use during the NFL?
Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 01, 2015, 06:14:12 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 01, 2015, 05:38:03 PM
Did not see what the Tipp Man did to get the line
The two boys did a bit of rolling about, the Tipp man got on top and punched the Cullyhana lad. It was a red card, but normally you don't see them given.
I assume that black cards are not in use during the NFL?
With you on the black cards. A couple of blatant trips for a start!
Tipperary are a big big team with a strong midfield. Was impressed with their full forward. They also have a couple of players who are good at the 'darker arts'. A couple of Armagh lads could learn a thing or two! On saying that overall I feel Armagh might have got the balance of decisions and stole the points.
Will McGeeney persist with the ploy of one up front and lumping ball in at him no matter how many men are marking him?
Quote from: LCohen on February 01, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
Will McGeeney persist with the ploy of one up front and lumping ball in at him no matter how many men are marking him?
No - sometimes he will play no-man up front and continue lumping ball in that direction :)
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 01, 2015, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: LCohen on February 01, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
Will McGeeney persist with the ploy of one up front and lumping ball in at him no matter how many men are marking him?
No - sometimes he will play no-man up front and continue lumping ball in that direction :)
Yes, that's called Plan B.
We're always ahead of the game when it comes to tactics ;)
QuoteAh well, at least we're not Tyrone.
Correct Einstein. You don't have 3 All Irelands and you're in division 3. Not a hard one to work out.
Bitterly disappointed after that today, thought the ref had an absolute mare but then I am biased. The penalty was very soft to say the very least, I do believe our red card was correct though, I only half saw it but it looked like Robbie threw a punch. Armagh were poor today but I think alot of people still don't quiet give us the credit that we are actually a pretty decent side. Alot of young players today for us, 4 under 21's started and 6 of our ai minor winning team, our midfield o riordan and o brien who are 19 and 20 were very good and contributed 5 points from play and that was the main def fence between the teams, apart from Clarke armagh didn't seem to have anyone who looked comfortable to take a score whereas we had scores though out the team. having played almost 30 mins with only 14 men our lads were out on their feet, still it was almost a carbon copy of the cork match from last year we should have won but didn't see it out, we need to sort out a game plan for seeing out these big games. hopefully now armagh can beat everyone else and the rest of us can fight it out for 2nd place, wouldn't mind getting another crack at ye in croke park. Best of luck on the year ahead.
Quote from: Over the Bar on February 01, 2015, 09:22:29 PM
QuoteAh well, at least we're not Tyrone.
Correct Einstein. You don't have 3 All Irelands and you're in division 3. Not a hard one to work out.
Miaow!
If you'd been following your own county's thread, you'd have got my comment. But it seems you're more interested in Armagh than your own team. That's understandable considering the performance against Monaghan ;)
Quote from: BennyCake on February 01, 2015, 10:37:35 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on February 01, 2015, 09:22:29 PM
QuoteAh well, at least we're not Tyrone.
Correct Einstein. You don't have 3 All Irelands and you're in division 3. Not a hard one to work out.
Miaow!
If you'd been following your own county's thread, you'd have got my comment. But it seems you're more interested in Armagh than your own team. That's understandable considering the performance against Monaghan ;)
With a few minutes to go I was planning to come on here and quote "it's the end of Armagh as we know it...and I feel fine!" But, congratulations, you managed to pull it out of the bag, a great day for the Orchard. I'll save it now for after the Wexford game. ;)
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 01, 2015, 11:06:31 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 01, 2015, 10:37:35 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on February 01, 2015, 09:22:29 PM
QuoteAh well, at least we're not Tyrone.
Correct Einstein. You don't have 3 All Irelands and you're in division 3. Not a hard one to work out.
Miaow!
If you'd been following your own county's thread, you'd have got my comment. But it seems you're more interested in Armagh than your own team. That's understandable considering the performance against Monaghan ;)
With a few minutes to go I was planning to come on here and quote "it's the end of Armagh as we know it...and I feel fine!" But, congratulations, you managed to pull it out of the bag, a great day for the Orchard. I'll save it now for after the Wexford game. ;)
Ach that line's been used already. Great day indeed. See you next Sunday, maybe ;)
Closer than expected, but we won. Onwards and upwards.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/peter-creedon-facing-sideline-ban-after-referee-blast-310417.html
Rubbing salt into the wounds.