Is it
a) a publishing company
b) a wardrobe in the 4 Courts
c) something to do with basketball
d) PR for the artist formerly known as Puke football
Puke football and full court press (bluergh) are different concepts. The blanket defence relies on getting men deep, closing off space, and turning the ball over deep and then counter attacking.
The 'full court press' is much higher up the pitch, like the basketball term. It implies defending very high up the field, and trying to force turnovers in the opposition half.
Almost polar opposites actually.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 02:44:46 PM
Puke football and full court press (bluergh) are different concepts. The blanket defence relies on getting men deep, closing off space, and turning the ball over deep and then counter attacking.
The 'full court press' is much higher up the pitch, like the basketball term. It implies defending very high up the field, and trying to force turnovers in the opposition half.
Almost polar opposites actually.
Was it a coach or a journalist who introduced the term to GAA journalism ?
I don't know. But a public flogging may not be uncalled for.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 02:54:11 PM
I don't know. But a public flogging may not be uncalled for.
It's like one of those business words that all the top managers use and very few of the people who actually do the work understand.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 02:54:11 PM
I don't know. But a public flogging may not be uncalled for.
Mayo at their best under Horan were fantastic at pressing high up the field, it was also a key element of Brigids' game-plan under McStay in the AI-winning season. Probably a good marriage there, actually.
Anyways, if you can do it right pressing up the field can be absolutely devastating and puts the least comfortable ball carriers on the opposing team under the sort of pressure they usually only have experience dishing out.
Yep. I agree. It's the term I'm talking about, not the tactic.
These spoof pundits could at least try and disguise what they're at by doing a bit of Roget-ing (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2719138/Sinister-buttocks-University-lecturer-discovers-meaningless-phrases-essays-created-students-hide-plagiarism.html) and calling it "entire tribunal media" or some such. That might get them over the advantage boundary*
* (Roget it).
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
Yep. I agree. It's the term I'm talking about, not the tactic.
The IT have been using it for a while but not to define the specific GF tactic
That seems to be more this year.
http://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?q=%22full%20court%20press%22&page=2&sortOrder=oldest
And the 2011 puke football match was also described as FCP, interestingly
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
Yep. I agree. It's the term I'm talking about, not the tactic.
McStay is usually the one who introduces a lot of these terms from US sports into gaelic football.
Barcelona in soccer in their pomp employed a very succesfuil version of this tactic. High risk, high reward.
Only a matter of time before we hear of
"bottom line advancement"
"rearview attack"
"arse boxing"
Arse boxing is there a while now. Tommy Lyons coined that phrase I think.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 04:28:41 PM
Arse boxing is there a while now. Tommy Lyons coined that phrase I think.
That was a great phrase but the Dubs arse boxed themselves out of whatever championship it was.
Quote from: seafoid on September 01, 2014, 04:32:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 04:28:41 PM
Arse boxing is there a while now. Tommy Lyons coined that phrase I think.
That was a great phrase but the Dubs arse boxed themselves out of whatever championship it was.
Great phrase indeed, but what exactly does it mean?
Lads pretending to fight. Bumping off one another like lads in a mosh pit.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 04:37:50 PM
Lads pretending to fight. Bumping off one another like lads in a mosh pit.
;D ;D
All makes sense now!!
Arse boxing is superb
Is the word Shim-ozzel used in any other sport? 8)
(Dunno how to spell it)
A Schmozzle is how I spell it. It sound Hebrew, but I think it comes from the Laois/Offaly myself :)
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 01, 2014, 04:06:03 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
Yep. I agree. It's the term I'm talking about, not the tactic.
McStay is usually the one who introduces a lot of these terms from US sports into gaelic football.
Barcelona in soccer in their pomp employed a very succesfuil version of this tactic. High risk, high reward.
I think Mc Hale's influence here might be more pertinent. Expect him on the Mc Stay ticket in Mayo
Quote from: Red on September 01, 2014, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 01, 2014, 04:06:03 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
Yep. I agree. It's the term I'm talking about, not the tactic.
McStay is usually the one who introduces a lot of these terms from US sports into gaelic football.
Barcelona in soccer in their pomp employed a very succesfuil version of this tactic. High risk, high reward.
I think Mc Hale's influence here might be more pertinent. Expect him on the Mc Stay ticket in Mayo
They'll be protecting the rock...