With the news that Paul Bealin is out as manager of Westmeath, I was wondering what the situation is in the rest of the country?
Leinster
Louth - Vacant
Meath - Mick O'Dowd - Manager since 2013 championship. - (In trouble after a poor end to 2014?)
Dublin - Jim Gavin - Manager since 2013 championship. (Assuming he'll stay if he wants to.)
Wicklow - Harry Murphy - Manager since 2012 championship.
Wexford - Vacant
Carlow - Vacant
Kildare - Jason Ryan - Manager since 2014 championship. (Assuming he's okay).
Laois - Tomás O Flaharta - Manager since 2014 championship. (Assuming he's okay).
Offaly - Vacant
Westmeath - Vacant
Longford - Jack sheedy - Confirmed for 2015
Munster
Cork - Brian Cuthbert - Manager since 2014 championship. (Probably okay as it's just been 1 year, but I know there's a bit of unrest there).
Kerry - Eamonn Fitzmaurice - Manager since 2013 championship. (I think he's okay, even if Mayo beat them. Haven't heard rumblings in Kerry and they know they don't have a stellar team at the moment).
Tipperary - Peter Creedon - Manager since 2013 championship. (Should be okay. Good progress made this year. If personal circumstances are ok, he'll stay on).
Limerick - John Brudair - Manager since 2014 championship. (Another first year man, so should be okay on that basis. Stayed in D3 and won a couple of qualifier games)
Clare - Colm Collins - Manager since 2014 championship. (Again, should be ok. Ran Kerry reasonably close, got promoted from D4 and showed well in qualifiers)
Waterford - Vacant
Connacht
Sligo - Pat Flanagan - Manager since 2014 championship. (Not sure what Sligo lads think, but I suspect he may be offered the Offaly job).
Galway - Vacant
Mayo - Vacant
Roscommon - John Evans - Manager since 2013 championship. (Hard to know this one from outside. Long trek to Kiltoom or wherever they train. What's the roscommon vibe?)
Leitrim - Vacant
London - Paul Coggins - Manager since 2011 championship. (Might be time to change there. Didn't come close to repeating last year's heroics this time around).
Ulster
Fermanagh - Pete McGrath - Manager since 2014 championship. Confirmed for 2015
Antrim - Liam Bradley - Manager (second time around) since 2014 championship. (Beat Fermanagh, got trimmed by Donegal and beaten by Limerick. Probably ok because it's year 1 again).
Tyrone - Mickey Harte - Manager since 25 B.C. . (Probably on his way out. The greatest manager of his generation, but it does look to be getting stale in the Red Hand county).
Derry - Brian McIver - Manager since 2013 championship. (Should be okay, but the league performance didn't translate. What do our Derry lads say?)
Armagh -Vacant
Down - Vacant
Donegal - Jimmy McGuinness - Manager since 2011 championship. (Another lad who might be thinking of pastures new. This is his 4th championship, and it must be tough with the family and the Celtic job. Win 2014 and he's proven his bounce back ability after 2013. Lose, and what more can he do?)
Monaghan - Malachy O'Rourke - Manager since 2013 championship. (You'd imagine he'd be ok. Ulster final again this year, and a good run to the quarter finals at least. A good run against the Dubs and surely he'd be grand)
Cavan - Terry Hyland - Manager since 2013 championship. (Cavan seem to be coming, but it's not there yet. Is Hyland the man to bring them on?)
Very comprehensive az. Can't see Flanagan leaving Sligo for his native county (provided he isn't given the cold shoulder again). Offaly are 4-5 years away from being an attractive prospect IMO.
QuoteLongford - Jack sheedy - Manager since 2014 championship. (Assuming he's okay).
Quite likely he's there for another year as there is no groundswell of opinion agin him at the top table nor from the players. A few mumblings from the floor at a recent county board meeting but that's unlikely to affect things. AFAIK the top table is awaiting a comprehensive report on the 2014 season before it rubber stamps another year.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 07, 2014, 12:11:12 PM
With the news that Paul Bealin is out as manager of Westmeath, I was wondering what the situation is in the rest of the country?
Roscommon - John Evans - Manager since 2013 championship. (Hard to know this one from outside. Long trek to Kiltoom or wherever they train. What's the roscommon vibe?)
He'd got some personal things but the latest whispers are that he'll be with us for another go in 2015.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2014, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 07, 2014, 12:11:12 PM
With the news that Paul Bealin is out as manager of Westmeath, I was wondering what the situation is in the rest of the country?
Roscommon - John Evans - Manager since 2013 championship. (Hard to know this one from outside. Long trek to Kiltoom or wherever they train. What's the roscommon vibe?)
He'd got some personal things but the latest whispers are that he'll be with us for another go in 2015.
And leading the U21s to AI glory too..
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on August 07, 2014, 12:30:56 PM
Very comprehensive az. Can't see Flanagan leaving Sligo for his native county (provided he isn't given the cold shoulder again). Offaly are 4-5 years away from being an attractive prospect IMO.
Not sure whether I want him to stay or go. This year was bad but a little better than KW's last year. I think Flanagan could do with better selectors/backroom team and a better county board......
Waterford weren't mentioned there. I'm offended ;).
I'd be more of a hurling fan than football but Niall Carew was thinking over his future after the 1 point defeat to Carlow in qualifiers. I haven't heard anything since but they haven't made much progress in last couple of years so he might decide to pull out.
Armagh - Paul Grimley - Manager since 2013 championship. (Geezer's arrival means it's probably a case of when rather than if he takes over. Grimley'd be hard done by if they moved him out after this run, so maybe this team will stay in situ.)
Is this not already a done deal?
Quote from: ONeill on August 07, 2014, 08:01:54 PM
Armagh - Paul Grimley - Manager since 2013 championship. (Geezer's arrival means it's probably a case of when rather than if he takes over. Grimley'd be hard done by if they moved him out after this run, so maybe this team will stay in situ.)
Is this not already a done deal?
nah. The arse has fallen out of the finances. Actually the arse fell out of them a long time ago but the enormity only emerging now.
Plus clubs unhappy with losing their county players. Geezer hardly the man to put that right. And the clubs have to vote him in.
Quote from: waterfordlad on August 07, 2014, 07:54:50 PM
Waterford weren't mentioned there. I'm offended ;).
I'd be more of a hurling fan than football but Niall Carew was thinking over his future after the 1 point defeat to Carlow in qualifiers. I haven't heard anything since but they haven't made much progress in last couple of years so he might decide to pull out.
Apologies waterfordlad. Certainly not intended. I know what the football folk have to go through down there and I'd never belittle them. Thanks for adding Waterford to my list.
Quote from: Syferus on August 07, 2014, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2014, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 07, 2014, 12:11:12 PM
With the news that Paul Bealin is out as manager of Westmeath, I was wondering what the situation is in the rest of the country?
Roscommon - John Evans - Manager since 2013 championship. (Hard to know this one from outside. Long trek to Kiltoom or wherever they train. What's the roscommon vibe?)
He'd got some personal things but the latest whispers are that he'll be with us for another go in 2015.
And leading the U21s to AI glory too..
You might get to the final alright
Galway might be best taking the advice of the poets laureate of Galway football, the Saw Doctors. The heron-chokers need a brand new Welger, and to get rid of that ould Mulholland.
Brian mcIver, is on a five year development plan in derry and is ahead of schedule, think we will stick with him for the full five.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 07, 2014, 10:53:28 PM
Galway might be best taking the advice of the poets laureate of Galway football, the Saw Doctors. The heron-chokers need a brand new Welger, and to get rid of that ould Mulholland.
Very good ;D
Pete McGrath has been ratified for Fermanagh next year.
Quote from: trasna man on August 07, 2014, 11:20:02 PM
Brian mcIver, is on a five year development plan in derry and is ahead of schedule,.
Was losing to Longford not meant to happen till next year? :)
Anthony Rainbow steps down as Carlow manager, no surprise there I think.
Aidan O'Brien stepped down as Wexford manager.
Johneen spotted at the club championship games over the weekend, shouldn't be too much drama in that reappointment.
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2014, 08:07:14 PM
Johneen spotted at the club championship games over the weekend, shouldn't be too much drama in that reappointment.
Was at the Kerry/Galway and Mayo/Cork QF's as well. Not that means much was probably watching Kerry rather than looking at Galway and Mayo.
So we have vacancies in Laythrum, Down, Offaly, Westmeath, Carlow, Louth, Wexford so far.
Question marks in Antrim, Cavan, Armagh, Galway, and maybe a few more Leinster Counties - Cork too possibly.
Depending on how the AI plays out Horan, Gavin, Mcguinness may jump ship
To be honest I think Horan will go after this year, however it pans out.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2014, 09:13:22 PM
So we have vacancies in Laythrum, Down, Offaly, Westmeath, Carlow, Louth, Wexford, Waterford and Armagh so far.
Question marks in Antrim, Cavan, Armagh, Galway, and maybe a few more Leinster Counties - Cork too possibly.
Depending on how the AI plays out Horan, Gavin, Mcguinness may jump ship
Niall Carew has gone in Waterford alright, as advised by waterfordlad. I've updated the first post with the latest situation I think.
Longford Co Board meet tomorrow night to decide on reappointing Sheedy for another year.
I know of at least one club agin and I know that if Shamrock Shore Snr has any say in the matter, being a club delegate, then a second club will say no.
But I think the top table and their aversion to change will swing the vote in Sheedy's favour.
Personally I think he was the wrong man at the beginning but at the same time it's unfair to dump after one season that had two championship wins......
Mulholland is stepping down in Galway.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2014, 10:50:54 AM
So we have vacancies in Laythrum, Down, Offaly, Westmeath, Carlow, Louth, Wexford, Waterford and Armagh, Galway so far.
Question marks in Antrim, Cavan, Armagh, Galway, and maybe a few more Leinster Counties - Cork too possibly.
Depending on how the AI plays out Horan, Gavin, McGuinness may jump ship
No question mark in Cavan , Terry Hyland confirmed he was staying on a few weeks ago
Terry might fancy staying but ...... have clubs/Co Board re appointed him?
Unless the Longford chairman pulls a rabbit out of the hat tonight, JacK Sheedy will be gone . 24 clubs and 12 executive have a vote . At present the views of 8 executive members are known 4 for 4 against , with probably the same split between the remaining 4 . So at best 6 of the executive in favour at present untill details of next years proposed selectors are released . The players would have been all impressed with the strength and conditioning coach and would favour him staying . They were less impressed with some of the other people with Jack . Unfortunately they all come as a package and I don't see Gilly getting the 19 votes needed to save Jack.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2014, 02:27:59 PM
Terry might fancy staying but ...... have clubs/Co Board re appointed him?
He has a deal until 2016 so the clubs didn't have to vote or relect him. It was after a meeting with the co board that he said he was staying on so I would assume they want him to continue?
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 21, 2014, 04:03:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2014, 02:27:59 PM
Terry might fancy staying but ...... have clubs/Co Board re appointed him?
He has a deal until 2016 so the clubs didn't have to vote or relect him. It was after a meeting with the co board that he said he was staying on so I would assume they want him to continue?
I'd have thought he'd be in bother after this year's anaemic championship performances and his ultra defensive team set up.
Anyway I've drawn a line though Cavan in my last posting :).
Promotion was the goal at the start of the year, Peter Donnelly had a big say in the defensive style Cavan have developed, this year in the championship there was 10 players missing from the team that played Kerry last year through injury or travelling
next year should be better, hopefully and the style of play will change slightly too
ye fairly parked the bus against Mayo all the same and agaisnt Armagh
l
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 21, 2014, 05:55:02 PM
Promotion was the goal at the start of the year, Peter Donnelly had a big say in the defensive style Cavan have developed, this year in the championship there was 10 players missing from the team that played Kerry last year through injury or travelling
next year should be better, hopefully and the style of play will change slightly too
ye fairly parked the bus against Mayo all the same and agaisnt Armagh
l
At least when we park the bus we do it in style.
Nothing stylish from the games against Mayo or Armagh
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 21, 2014, 07:16:46 PM
Nothing stylish from the games against Mayo or Armagh
(http://www.hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/photo-4.jpg)
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 21, 2014, 05:55:02 PM
Promotion was the goal at the start of the year, Peter Donnelly had a big say in the defensive style Cavan have developed, this year in the championship there was 10 players missing from the team that played Kerry last year through injury or travelling
next year should be better, hopefully and the style of play will change slightly too
ye fairly parked the bus against Mayo all the same and agaisnt Armagh
l
But we attacked them at some stage. Bad shootin at vital stages effd us up in both games.
Ye're bucks were still 13 or 14 behind the ball when ye were way behind in the second half against us.
Anyway we'll be renewing acquaintances ( near time ye came to the Hyde) next Spring in D2. Hopefully we'll both have made more progress by then.
I see Johneen is saying he's going to "freshen up" his back room. I wonder what has he up his cute sleevín :-X
Quote from: Syferus on August 21, 2014, 07:59:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 21, 2014, 07:16:46 PM
Nothing stylish from the games against Mayo or Armagh
(http://www.hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/photo-4.jpg)
Fancy bus. Is there a toilet on that thing?
Forgot about that thing of beauty. Agree rossfan, roscommon were a bit more adventurous
there will be be changes in the Cavan back room too
Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2014, 08:16:09 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 21, 2014, 05:55:02 PM
Promotion was the goal at the start of the year, Peter Donnelly had a big say in the defensive style Cavan have developed, this year in the championship there was 10 players missing from the team that played Kerry last year through injury or travelling
next year should be better, hopefully and the style of play will change slightly too
ye fairly parked the bus against Mayo all the same and agaisnt Armagh
l
But we attacked them at some stage. Bad shootin at vital stages effd us up in both games.
Ye're bucks were still 13 or 14 behind the ball when ye were way behind in the second half against us.
Anyway we'll be renewing acquaintances ( near time ye came to the Hyde) next Spring in D2. Hopefully we'll both have made more progress by then.
I see Johneen is saying he's going to "freshen up" his back room. I wonder what has he up his cute sleevín :-X
Did someone whisper FOD as a selector? Evans does have a way with words..
No surprise but Jack Sheedy was reaffirmed as Longford manager last night on a vote of 14-5.
Some ex-players not amused judging by Twitter.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2014, 10:36:19 AM
So we have vacancies in Wicklow, Laythrum, Down, Offaly, Westmeath, Carlow, Louth, Wexford, Waterford and Armagh, Galway so far.
Question marks in Antrim, Cavan, Armagh, Galway, and maybe a few more Leinster Counties - Cork too possibly.
Depending on how the AI plays out Horan, Gavin, McGuinness may jump ship
Wicklow added.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 23, 2014, 12:03:11 PM
So we have vacancies in Wicklow, Laythrum, Down, Offaly, Westmeath, Carlow, Louth, Wexford, Waterford and Armagh[/color], Galway and MayoWR so far.
Question marks in Antrim, Cavan, Armagh, Galway, and maybe a few more Leinster Counties - Cork too possibly.
Depending on how the AI plays out Horan, Gavin, McGuinness may jump ship
Looks like the Aristocrats of Down going next door for a common oul Armaghite :D
Bit of a come down ?
Shane Ward to be appointed in Laythrum next week I hear.
Bradley gone and a new man in place already up in Antrim
Whoever takes over Louth will be without Paddy Keenan, http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=224202
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2014, 04:11:40 PM
So we have vacancies in Wicklow, Laythrum, Down, Offaly, Westmeath, Carlow, Louth, Wexford, Waterford and Armagh[/color], Galway and MayoWR so far.
Question marks in Sligo Antrim, Cavan, Armagh, Galway, and maybe a few more Leinster Counties - Cork too possibly.Depending on how the AI plays out Horan, Gavin, McGuinness may jump ship
Shane Ward appointed as Senior, Junior and U21 manager in Laythrum.
I've heard of double jobbin but that's squeezin the last drop out of him.
Only Walsh nominated for Galway and only one name in the hat in Waterford too.
2 Nominations in Rhuland.
Pat Flanagan yet to commit in Shliigo
So vacancies in Sligo and Donegal.
Interesting times
Has Donie Buckley agreed to do Kerry u-21s along with the position he has with our seniors?
Looks like David power is on to take the Wexford job.
Is Pat Flanagan being lined up for Offaly?
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 04, 2014, 01:45:30 PM
Is Pat Flanagan being lined up for Offaly?
That's been the word for quite a while.
So it's now vacancies in Sligo, Donegal, Offaly, Westmeath and Louth.
Are Westmeath the only county without a manager?
Pat Flanagan confirmed in Offaly.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 31, 2014, 01:45:12 PM
Are Westmeath the only county without a manager?
Donegal not confirmed yet. At least they look like they will appoint someone, we can go back collective training in 2 weeks, we'll be blessed to have a man with a plan by then though. ::)
Keep tellin you Croí - Tom Tom Tommy is ye're only man :P
I think the following is the current state of play
Antrim - Frank Fitzsimons
Armagh - Kieran McGeeney
Carlow - Turlough O'Brien
Cavan - Terry Hyland
Clare - Colm Collins
Cork - Brian Cuthbert
Derry - Brian McIver
Down - Jim Corry
Dublin - Jim Gavin
Fermanagh - Pete McGrath
Galway - Kevin Walsh
Kerry - Eamonn Fitzmaurice
Kildare - Jason Ryan
Laois - Tomás Ó Flatharta
Leitrim - Shane Ward
Limerick - John Brudair
London - Paul Coggins
Longford - Jack Sheedy
Louth - Colin Kelly
Mayo - Noel Connelly and Pat Holmes
Meath - Mick O'Dowd
Monaghan - Malachy O'Rourke
New York - Ian Galvin
Offaly - Pat Flanagan
Roscommon - John Evans
Sligo - Niall Carew
Tyrone - Mickey Harte
Waterford - Tom McGlinchey
Wicklow - Johnny Magee
Donegal – Annoucement expected soon
Tipperary - Is Peter Creedon still manager?
Westmeath – anyone know anything?
Wexford – anyone know anything?
As far as I'm aware all the following are teachers (or retired teachers) which is a hell of a lot as there are a serious number I don't have the first clue what they do as the day-job so odds are good there could well be a fair few more.
Brian Cuthbert
Brian McIver
Eamonn Fitzmaurice
Jason Ryan
Malachy O'Rourke
Mickey Harte
Shane Ward
Pete McGrath
Peter Creedon is still manager in Tipp.
David Power is the new manager in Wexford.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 19, 2014, 04:44:58 PM
Shane Ward appointed as Senior, Junior and U21 manager in Laythrum.
I've heard of double jobbin but that's squeezin the last drop out of him.
There seems to be a bit of the double jobbin going on all right. In the smaller counties especially you can see why the county board would like the idea.
I don't think it's a small county thing to be honest, I think it's a case of trying to get the young lads exposed to the senior training, and these days a lot of U21s are on senior panels too, so it's probably easier logistically to be managed by the same lad.
Having said that, David Power was over the U21s in Tipp last year, and Creedon was Senior manager so that was different.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 31, 2014, 03:04:20 PM
Keep tellin you Croí - Tom Tom Tommy is ye're only man :P
We're wanting to halt the free fall, not add another couple of tonnes on top
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 31, 2014, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 31, 2014, 01:45:12 PM
Are Westmeath the only county without a manager?
Donegal not confirmed yet. At least they look like they will appoint someone, we can go back collective training in 2 weeks, we'll be blessed to have a man with a plan by then though. ::)
They are appointing a new manager tonight it seems http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=226875
Former Laois and Offaly manager Tom Cribbin the latest to be linked to the Westmeath role. Jack Cooney's taste's were too rich for the CB, poor old Banty never stood a chance.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 03, 2014, 10:27:44 AM
Former Laois and Offaly manager Tom Cribbin the latest to be linked to the Westmeath role. Jack Cooney's taste's were too rich for the CB, poor old Banty never stood a chance.
Talk's the talk but doesn't walk the walk, very underwhelming as Kildare u21 manager this year.
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 31, 2014, 03:09:39 PM
Westmeath – anyone know anything?
Wexford – anyone know anything?
Is that not a bit harsh?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 03, 2014, 12:46:41 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 03, 2014, 10:27:44 AM
Former Laois and Offaly manager Tom Cribbin the latest to be linked to the Westmeath role. Jack Cooney's taste's were too rich for the CB, poor old Banty never stood a chance.
Talk's the talk but doesn't walk the walk, very underwhelming as Kildare u21 manager this year.
His record when player/manager of Clane was very good. Hard to put the finger on what went wrong with the u21s. Seemed to be a shambles of a set up this year. He won't need to do much to be an improvement on Paul Bealin.
Celbridge will be delighted to hang on to Cooney for another year.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on November 03, 2014, 12:55:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 03, 2014, 12:46:41 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 03, 2014, 10:27:44 AM
Former Laois and Offaly manager Tom Cribbin the latest to be linked to the Westmeath role. Jack Cooney's taste's were too rich for the CB, poor old Banty never stood a chance.
Talk's the talk but doesn't walk the walk, very underwhelming as Kildare u21 manager this year.
His record when player/manager of Clane was very good. Hard to put the finger on what went wrong with the u21s. Seemed to be a shambles of a set up this year. He won't need to do much to be an improvement on Paul Bealin.
Celbridge will be delighted to hang on to Cooney for another year.
Another underwhelming nomination alright. Although nearly got a poor Offaly side promoted from Div 3 in 2011.
Is Cooney that highly thought of in Celbridge?
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 03, 2014, 01:38:37 PM
Is Cooney that highly thought of in Celbridge?
I believe so yes. They won the county league this year and really should have beaten Moorefield in the championship semi final. That was a big improvement on last year when Moorefield destroyed them in the championship. The loss of Paddy Brophy to Aussie Rules will be a big blow for their chances next year.
Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2014, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 31, 2014, 03:09:39 PM
Westmeath – anyone know anything?
Wexford – anyone know anything?
Is that not a bit harsh?
I was asking about who the managers were/are - twas not intended as a slight against either county whatsoever.
Quote from: twohands!!! on November 03, 2014, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2014, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 31, 2014, 03:09:39 PM
Westmeath – anyone know anything?
Wexford – anyone know anything?
Is that not a bit harsh?
I was asking about who the managers were/are - twas not intended as a slight against either county whatsoever.
Don't mind muppet twohands, the rawness leaves the Mayo body earlier as the years pass by. Stirring helps them get through the winter easier.
Tom Cribbin to be the third manager proposed for ratification by the Westmeath county board tonight.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 04, 2014, 02:01:37 PM
Tom Cribbin to be the third manager proposed for ratification by the Westmeath county board tonight.
I predict he won't be voted in by the clubs
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 04, 2014, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 04, 2014, 02:01:37 PM
Tom Cribbin to be the third manager proposed for ratification by the Westmeath county board tonight.
I predict he won't be voted in by the clubs
Hard to meet the Westmeath standard ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2014, 05:32:52 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 04, 2014, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 04, 2014, 02:01:37 PM
Tom Cribbin to be the third manager proposed for ratification by the Westmeath county board tonight.
I predict he won't be voted in by the clubs
Hard to meet the Westmeath standard ;)
Tommy Carr really wouldn't be any worse than the sorts of names being mentioned now.
Quote from: Syferus on November 04, 2014, 06:52:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2014, 05:32:52 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 04, 2014, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 04, 2014, 02:01:37 PM
Tom Cribbin to be the third manager proposed for ratification by the Westmeath county board tonight.
I predict he won't be voted in by the clubs
Hard to meet the Westmeath standard ;)
Tommy Carr really wouldn't be any worse than the sorts of names being mentioned now.
Give the other candidates some sort of credit like
Cribbin it is.
Despite a vote they didn't even count the show of hands or allow any discussion on anyone else. That's democracy Westmeath style.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 05, 2014, 07:56:10 AM
Cribbin it is.
Despite a vote they didn't even count the show of hands or allow any discussion on anyone else. That's democracy Westmeath style.
This has been another shambles from this CB, they won't be remembered fondly in Westmeath that's for sure. They'll probably pump all the money they've been scraping from supporting the teams into a "redeveloped" Cusack Park. ::)
On the appointment, I'm looking at the positive side, it's not Bealin or Tommy Carr.
http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/with-15-managerial-changes-we-assess-their-chances-in-next-seasons-football-season-30722588.html
FOR F.U.C.K.S. SAKE!!!
What now? Did he resign?
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 13, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
FOR F.U.C.K.S. SAKE!!!
I think he just heard who the new U21 manager is :-[ :'(
Tell me it goes Beep Beep?
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 13, 2014, 10:50:16 AM
Tell me it goes Beep Beep?
Beep Beep..... crash .....write off usually ;D
I thought Tom Cribbin was managing both U21s and Seniors?
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 13, 2014, 11:16:36 AM
I thought Tom Cribbin was managing both U21s and Seniors?
He is but is "focusing solely on the senior side until January". Really sets us up for a good run in this. >:(
Splutter, splutter is coaching and apparently is a "super coach". ::)
Was adopting a wait and see approach towards Cribbin. Honeymoon period didn't last long. Good news is that it looks likely there will be a challenge to change chairman of CB. Not a great sign when the clubs want you out not even halfway through your term.
In fairness, maybe Carr is a good skills coach. Management and Coaching would be different.
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 13, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
In fairness, maybe Carr is a good skills coach. Management and Coaching would be different.
It's no like Wstmeath were too hot at minor before he got there. Carr gets turfed in with Maughan for us but he was a damn sight better a manager.
Quote from: Syferus on November 13, 2014, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 13, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
In fairness, maybe Carr is a good skills coach. Management and Coaching would be different.
It's no like Wstmeath were too hot at minor before he got there. Carr gets turfed in with Maughan for us but he was a damn sight better a manager.
Maughan managed mayo teams to three all Ireland finals albeit not winning any of them. He also won a munster title with Clare so his management skills have been well proven. He's not a magician capable of making a silk purse out of a sow's ear however......
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 13, 2014, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 13, 2014, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 13, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
In fairness, maybe Carr is a good skills coach. Management and Coaching would be different.
It's no like Wstmeath were too hot at minor before he got there. Carr gets turfed in with Maughan for us but he was a damn sight better a manager.
Maughan managed mayo teams to three all Ireland finals albeit not winning any of them. He also won a munster title with Clare so his management skills have been well proven. He's not a magician capable of making a silk purse out of a sow's ear however......
Tommy Carr. Can't even get a coaching gig in his own adopted club.
Westmeath won all around them at U16 before the CB foisted Tommy Carr on all of us. Players, clubs or supporters didn't want him. By some stroke of luck, i.e. not through any great masterplan, we had the same man in charge as that group came up through the age groups and they were working well together. Similar to the underage structure that Dublin have so successfully implemented where the same manager will take the development squad from U12 up to U18. We're our own worst enemy.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 13, 2014, 04:48:06 PM
Westmeath won all around them at U16 before the CB foisted Tommy Carr on all of us. Players, clubs or supporters didn't want him. By some stroke of luck, i.e. not through any great masterplan, we had the same man in charge as that group came up through the age groups and they were working well together. Similar to the underage structure that Dublin have so successfully implemented where the same manager will take the development squad from U12 up to U18. We're our own worst enemy.
no point in Westmeath teams being too successful, give all the other mediocre counties a chance.
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 13, 2014, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 13, 2014, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 13, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
In fairness, maybe Carr is a good skills coach. Management and Coaching would be different.
It's no like Wstmeath were too hot at minor before he got there. Carr gets turfed in with Maughan for us but he was a damn sight better a manager.
Maughan managed mayo teams to three all Ireland finals albeit not winning any of them. He also won a munster title with Clare so his management skills have been well proven. He's not a magician capable of making a silk purse out of a sow's ear however......
John the Maughan, with all his wisdom, took a top 10 team and made them inferior to Sligo. The work of a true legend of the game. He hasn't stopped sniping at us and we won't stop sniping at him.
If a Rossie called the lifeblood of Mayo football 'paying customers' don't lie and say you'd feel any differently. The one thing Roscommon and Mayo share is an almost rabid passion for football. What Maughan did was to insult the very identity of a county and as a Mayo man he would have been an idiot to have not known better.
"John the Maughan, with all his wisdom, took a top 10 team and made them inferior to Sligo".
Thanks For the kind words Sy
Quote from: sligoman2 on November 14, 2014, 05:33:27 PM
"John the Maughan, with all his wisdom, took a top 10 team and made them inferior to Sligo".
Thanks For the kind words Sy
There is a reason Ros has no mother.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 13, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
FOR F.U.C.K.S. SAKE!!!
A biteen of disquiet to the East of us -
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=227914
Hard to please Westmeath though, couldn't wait to get rid of Pat Flanagan who got them promoted to Division 1, to be replaced by Bealin who lost every game in the Division. They create their own problems
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2014, 03:26:17 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 13, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
FOR F.U.C.K.S. SAKE!!!
A biteen of disquiet to the East of us -
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=227914
More than a bit.
Quote from: sligoman2 on November 14, 2014, 05:33:27 PM
"John the Maughan, with all his wisdom, took a top 10 team and made them inferior to Sligo".
Thanks For the kind words Sy
Didn't mean to be dismissive of Sligo. I'm sure Mayo and Galway lads look at us like that and it's a maddening viewpoint when you're on the receiving end.
In 2005 we were cominf off a great run in the qualifiers and an AIQF against Kerry in 2003 and made the Connacht final in 2004 and lost a close enough game to Dublin in Croker in R4. With a lad called Tommy Carr as manager, not exactly this board's idea of great management. My point was that Maughan had plenty to work with but he could only manage to get the car going in reverse.
Quote from: Syferus on November 14, 2014, 02:42:03 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 13, 2014, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 13, 2014, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 13, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
In fairness, maybe Carr is a good skills coach. Management and Coaching would be different.
It's no like Wstmeath were too hot at minor before he got there. Carr gets turfed in with Maughan for us but he was a damn sight better a manager.
Maughan managed mayo teams to three all Ireland finals albeit not winning any of them. He also won a munster title with Clare so his management skills have been well proven. He's not a magician capable of making a silk purse out of a sow's ear however......
John the Maughan, with all his wisdom, took a top 10 team and made them inferior to Sligo. The work of a true legend of the game. He hasn't stopped sniping at us and we won't stop sniping at him.
If a Rossie called the lifeblood of Mayo football 'paying customers' don't lie and say you'd feel any differently. The one thing Roscommon and Mayo share is an almost rabid passion for football. What Maughan did was to insult the very identity of a county and as a Mayo man he would have been an idiot to have not known better.
as usual, Syferus not letting the facts get in the way of his ranting
THANK f**k!
Westmeath football manager Tom Cribbin has revealed that Tom Carr will not be involved with the county under-21 side at all.
Cribbin had asked the former Dublin All-Ireland winner to look after the under-21 squad until the New Year when the Kildare native would be more familiar with the senior squad.
However, a number of club delegates were concerned over Carr's role with the under-21s as they feel he has underachieved during his time as manager of the county minors.
And now, Cribbin has confirmed to the Westmeath Independent that Carr will not be involved at all with the squad and that he would be taking full charge of the senior and under-21 squads.
Cribbin has added Gary Connaughton and Pierce Corroon as his senior selectors, while Michael Ennis, David Martin, Frank Mescall and Graham O'Connor will work with the under-21 squad.
The former Offaly manager stated: "There was no agenda. I felt Tom Carr's experience with the minors would help until January, allowing me to get a firm grasp on the senior team.
"Tom Carr never wanted to be under-21 manager and was only going to help in a busy period. I am very happy with the under-21 backroom team, they're all of high calibre."
That looks a decent setup with the U21s now, pity they didn't give them their own manager instead of having Cribbin double jobbing. Still, sighs of relief all round.
Who can stop Westmeath now ?? :o
Quote from: Rossfan on November 26, 2014, 10:49:21 AM
Who can stop Westmeath now ?? :o
We are usually first in line, now that some deadwood has been removed there is room for the other 31 counties.