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Title: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: T Fearon on August 05, 2014, 11:43:58 PM
Armagh GAA have summoned the World's journalistic fraternity to a Press Conference tomorrow,Wednesday! Silence no more!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: lynchbhoy on August 05, 2014, 11:50:27 PM
A hhh
I thought you were going to announce that you were actually going to have to buy match tickets instead of winning them!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: bennydorano on August 06, 2014, 07:53:22 AM
Has it really been a media ban? More an Irish News embargo.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Hound on August 06, 2014, 08:50:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 06, 2014, 07:53:22 AM
Has it really been a media ban? More an Irish News embargo.
Complete media ban. Refused interviews with RTE and Sky on TV.
Irish Times reported in the build up to the last match that an Armagh player turned up for the press briefing with players from other counties, refused to say a word, collected his cheque, and left.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: AZOffaly on August 06, 2014, 09:30:30 AM
did the Armagh man of the match not talk to Sky the other day?
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: illdecide on August 06, 2014, 09:35:14 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 06, 2014, 09:30:30 AM
did the Armagh man of the match not talk to Sky the other day?

Soupy did talk to SKY after the game
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: AZOffaly on August 06, 2014, 09:37:55 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 08:50:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 06, 2014, 07:53:22 AM
Has it really been a media ban? More an Irish News embargo.
Complete media ban. Refused interviews with RTE and Sky on TV.
Irish Times reported in the build up to the last match that an Armagh player turned up for the press briefing with players from other counties, refused to say a word, collected his cheque, and left.

In fairness the story there was that the player was sent down for the photo shoot, like all the rest of them, but when he was contacted on the way down, he reminded them that he wouldn't be available for interviews, as per the instruction from team management. He did the photo shoot.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: ck on August 06, 2014, 10:10:44 AM
Such a feckin farce the whole thing. Sure didn't one of their players do an interview with Sky last week, yet others don't talk. It's all a mess and serves no purpose at all.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 06, 2014, 10:23:15 AM
Postponed! Lol
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: DuffleKing on August 06, 2014, 10:40:52 AM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on August 06, 2014, 10:23:15 AM
Postponed! Lol

LOL. You have to admire it at this stage. Aggrivating the press is risky business but they are certainly dictating the message none the less
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: DuffleKing on August 06, 2014, 10:43:58 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 08:50:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 06, 2014, 07:53:22 AM
Has it really been a media ban? More an Irish News embargo.
Complete media ban. Refused interviews with RTE and Sky on TV.
Irish Times reported in the build up to the last match that an Armagh player turned up for the press briefing with players from other counties, refused to say a word, collected his cheque, and left.

Nice implication of the player as a mercenary there Hound. Armagh are obliged to provide a player for these game promotion photos, they are not obliged to do interviews. Happens the press treat them as a free lunch - tag along and pick up the handy interviews.

This type of thread is great for highlighting the posters with media agendas...
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Rossfan on August 06, 2014, 10:52:32 AM
Message to Armagh GAA - Grow up FFS!!!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 06, 2014, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2014, 10:52:32 AM
Message to Armagh GAA - Grow up FFS!!!

It's actually quite mature and quite calculated, well played Armagh.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: mackers on August 06, 2014, 11:00:06 AM
While I don't agree with the blanket media ban this has shown how seriously the media take themselves....the IN will have nothing else to write about if the ban is over.....it has filled some column inches for them over the last few weeks.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: AZOffaly on August 06, 2014, 11:13:43 AM
I'm confused hardstation. Given that this is a reaction to media coverage and bans related to the parade row, where does this rank on your 'whingeometer'?
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: ONeill on August 06, 2014, 11:16:48 AM
I see Paddy Heaney is urging the apple chompers to call an end to it. I think he has written that article a couple of times now over the years.

His thinking is that the players will look back in years to come and think they missed out in fully appreciating their great fun. Wise up Paddy.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: AZOffaly on August 06, 2014, 11:18:02 AM
The media are gas.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Armamike on August 06, 2014, 11:20:13 AM
Don't really agree with it all myself but can understand why the management has had issues with some of the reporters over the past few months.  One or two guys in the IN and Bel Telegraph printed stuff after the Cavan game that was out of line imo and stuff they could not stand over.  I'm not sure how some of those guys really expected to get a favourable response for interviews after that.  Having said that i would rather the management had come out and addressed those reporters and their views directly rather than tarring everyone.

Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: moysider on August 06, 2014, 11:22:11 AM
Ban? What media ban?
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: AZOffaly on August 06, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 06, 2014, 11:13:43 AM
I'm confused hardstation. Given that this is a reaction to media coverage and bans related to the parade row, where does this rank on your 'whingeometer'?
It isn't whinging at all. It's anti-whinging.
If they went to the media everyday to complain about the bans, that'd be whinging.
You can't be accused of whinging for saying nothing.

But by them not talking to the press, is that a form of whinging itself? Or at least sulking?
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Armamike on August 06, 2014, 11:25:20 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 06, 2014, 11:16:48 AM
I see Paddy Heaney is urging the apple chompers to call an end to it. I think he has written that article a couple of times now over the years.

His thinking is that the players will look back in years to come and think they missed out in fully appreciating their great fun. Wise up Paddy.

He's tried a few different approaches over the past few weeks. This is his latest tact - the guilt trip (think of the proud daddies and mummies that are missing out).  Fact is Armagh are talking to the likes of John Campbell in the Bel Telegraph and this probably doesn't sit too well with Paddy.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: oakleafgael on August 06, 2014, 11:26:10 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 06, 2014, 11:13:43 AM
I'm confused hardstation. Given that this is a reaction to media coverage and bans related to the parade row, where does this rank on your 'whingeometer'?

AZ,

The media ban was in place before the parade row with Cavan.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Orior on August 06, 2014, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: Armamike on August 06, 2014, 11:25:20 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 06, 2014, 11:16:48 AM
I see Paddy Heaney is urging the apple chompers to call an end to it. I think he has written that article a couple of times now over the years.

His thinking is that the players will look back in years to come and think they missed out in fully appreciating their great fun. Wise up Paddy.

He's tried a few different approaches over the past few weeks. This is his latest tact - the guilt trip (think of the proud daddies and mummies that are missing out).  Fact is Armagh are talking to the likes of John Campbell in the Bel Telegraph and this probably doesn't sit too well with Paddy.

Nor Jim McGuinness!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: ONeill on August 06, 2014, 11:34:31 AM
What usually happens now is that the media turn on Armagh and try to find some juicy story about Ciaran McKeever and a goat in Maghery.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: mackers on August 06, 2014, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 06, 2014, 11:34:31 AM
What usually happens now is that the media turn on Armagh and try to find some juicy story about Ciaran McKeever and a goat in Maghery.
You're including Ciaran in a lot of your posts now O'Neill.....verging on infatuation at this point.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: ONeill on August 06, 2014, 12:02:42 PM
Ok 'mackers'.

Brian Mallon and his brother Andy with a piece of blue rope in Clonmore.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Sidney on August 06, 2014, 12:14:33 PM
I love the irony that Armagh are sponsored by a media communications company yet refuse to communicate with the media.

It reminds me of when Pele endorsed viagra yet was categorical that he never used it.

Perhaps McGeeney's next move will be to alienate Armagh's secondary sponsors Simply Fruit by putting all the players on the Atkins diet?
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Sidney on August 06, 2014, 12:17:54 PM
When Armagh took up their sponsorship deal with Rainbow Communications, is this what they had in mind?

(http://goodtoknow.media.ipcdigital.co.uk/111/00000b824/50e4_orh100000w614/Phillip-Schofield-and-Zippy.jpg)
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: highorlow on August 06, 2014, 12:26:28 PM
The wait continues. Conference is now cancelled.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2014/0806/635437-armagh-cancel-press-event-as-media-ban-continues/

Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Sidney on August 06, 2014, 12:40:38 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 06, 2014, 12:26:28 PM
The wait continues. Conference is now cancelled.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2014/0806/635437-armagh-cancel-press-event-as-media-ban-continues/
5/8/14

Official statement from Armagh GAA


Armagh GAA, in association with the Irish News and RTE, is proud to announce a special one-off summer performance of Samuel Beckett's "Waiting For Godot".

The matinee performance, to take place today at midday on Wednesday August 6th, will take place in McGeeney suite at the Carrickdale Hotel.

Paddy Heaney of the Irish News plays the role of Vladimir, while the irrepressible Marty Morrissey of RTE takes the role of Estragon.

But all eyes will be on Ciaran McKeever, who, in his first major stage role, plays Godot.

Ends

Update:

With the nation's press already gathered in the McGeeney suite in eager anticipation of this high profile production, latest reports say McKeever was "very nervous" this morning ahead of his acting debut, and may not even turn up.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: ONeill on August 06, 2014, 12:54:10 PM
Can we not just make it up?

Hack: Paul, do you think you can win this weekend?

The Grim: Yes, there's no point in turning up if you don't think you can win. The boys have prepared well and have given 110% this week. Donegal are an excellent outfit and have a lot of All Ireland winners in their side. We know the task ahead of us is difficult and we'll give it our best and hopefully come out the right side. It'll be a battle (laughs).

Hack: Kieran, you seem to have reinvigorated Armagh this year

Geezer: Oh I wouldn't say that. Armagh have always had good players so they did and it just took....whose phone is that? That's the second time that's went off.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 06, 2014, 01:02:21 PM
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2pzzpyp.jpg)
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 06, 2014, 01:03:13 PM
Lads it's up to Armagh to do what they want but it's a bit of a joke.
If you were the sponsors you'd hardly be delighted. And just on the larger picture you have people moaning every time the Dubs get a new sponsorship partner.
I fully appreciate they have the population etc but they also play the media to the last and that doesn't do their commercial side of things any harm.
Armagh can do as they wish but it's doing them no favours if they want to get money from outside the parish.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 06, 2014, 01:05:50 PM
bow wow the mafia love Dublin because they sell newspapers.. end of...
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: StephenC on August 06, 2014, 01:11:00 PM
I think this media ban will be worth 3-4 point to Armagh on Saturday.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: balladmaker on August 06, 2014, 01:24:51 PM
The old Sunday Game broadcast from this year's All Ireland winners banquet could be interesting to say the least .... wait a minute, shouldn't be talking like that, sure we all know that it's Dublin's year ::)
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: T Fearon on August 06, 2014, 01:47:45 PM
It's postponed as Ciaran Mc Keever has to repel Hurricane Bertha.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: omagh_gael on August 06, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on August 06, 2014, 01:47:45 PM
It's postponed as Ciaran Mc Keever has to repel Hurricane Bertha.

Hurricane Bertha. Isn't that a chancey blade from Camlough?
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Sidney on August 06, 2014, 02:18:09 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on August 06, 2014, 01:47:45 PM
It's postponed as Ciaran Mc Keever has to repel Hurricane Bertha.
Ciaran McKeever generally proves repellent to anything with a female name, so no change there.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Zulu on August 06, 2014, 03:49:38 PM
Is this for real? Every national newspaper in Ireland should do a weekly spoof article on Armagh, as O'Neill suggested, from now on. It was nonsense carry on before now but if they actually cancelled a news conference they were going to have on the morning of it then they deserve no sympathy from anyone. Siege mentality me arse!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: T Fearon on August 06, 2014, 03:56:33 PM
Think Armagh should go down the old Sinn Fein censorship route and have interviewees voiced over by actors.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 03:57:30 PM
There are several counties where you could do a factual article, but people would think it was a spoof!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Armamike on August 06, 2014, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 03:57:30 PM
There are several counties where you could do a factual article, but people would think it was a spoof!

A few quickly spring to mind. The white van/Dom Corrigan episode in Sligo is one.  Paudie O'Se getting attacked by an 80 year old on the sideline etc.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 06, 2014, 08:05:10 PM
What a bunch of cry babies, what age these men? i doubt they need to worry about talking after the Donegal game
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: balladmaker on August 06, 2014, 08:11:40 PM
Why the need for county teams to rush to speak to any reporter going?  Don't see why we should hold the press in a position where they think they have the right to interview anyone.  Armagh are dancing to their own tune and no one elses, fair play to them.  Also, don't understand some people's infatuation with the fact Armagh won't talk to the press, it's a non-story, literally.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Zulu on August 06, 2014, 08:21:12 PM
Really??  So you think it would be normal and ok if every top team and athlete the world over never spoke to the media? They all danced to their own tune, whatever that means, and that'd be good for sport?
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Hound on August 06, 2014, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 06, 2014, 10:43:58 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 08:50:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 06, 2014, 07:53:22 AM
Has it really been a media ban? More an Irish News embargo.
Complete media ban. Refused interviews with RTE and Sky on TV.
Irish Times reported in the build up to the last match that an Armagh player turned up for the press briefing with players from other counties, refused to say a word, collected his cheque, and left.

Nice implication of the player as a mercenary there Hound. Armagh are obliged to provide a player for these game promotion photos, they are not obliged to do interviews. Happens the press treat them as a free lunch - tag along and pick up the handy interviews.

This type of thread is great for highlighting the posters with media agendas...
Good one!
I've no media agenda chap. Just quoted what the Irish Times reported.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 08:28:11 PM
The GAA has no genuine interest in publicising Armagh, otherwise they'd be on TV  instead of Murdoch's ghetto where nobody useful watches them bar a few Hooray Henries tweeting in England.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Hound on August 06, 2014, 08:35:57 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 08:28:11 PM
The GAA has no genuine interest in publicising Armagh, otherwise they'd be on TV  instead of Murdoch's ghetto where nobody useful watches them bar a few Hooray Henries tweeting in England.
You seriously think the GAA made the decision as to what games RTE get versus what games Sky get?
Siege mentality is spreading!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 08:39:38 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 08:35:57 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 08:28:11 PM
The GAA has no genuine interest in publicising Armagh, otherwise they'd be on TV  instead of Murdoch's ghetto where nobody useful watches them bar a few Hooray Henries tweeting in England.
You seriously think the GAA made the decision as to what games RTE get versus what games Sky get?

Of course they made the decision, they allocated the games in the contract!

QuoteSiege mentality is spreading!

Well then raise the siege and put us on RTÉ!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Hound on August 06, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 08:39:38 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 08:35:57 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 08:28:11 PM
The GAA has no genuine interest in publicising Armagh, otherwise they'd be on TV  instead of Murdoch's ghetto where nobody useful watches them bar a few Hooray Henries tweeting in England.
You seriously think the GAA made the decision as to what games RTE get versus what games Sky get?

Of course they made the decision, they allocated the games in the contract!

QuoteSiege mentality is spreading!

Well then raise the siege and put us on RTÉ!
No they didnt. They allocated categories of games, RTE and Sky had freedom to pick individual matches within those categories.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: DuffleKing on August 06, 2014, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 06, 2014, 10:43:58 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 08:50:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 06, 2014, 07:53:22 AM
Has it really been a media ban? More an Irish News embargo.
Complete media ban. Refused interviews with RTE and Sky on TV.
Irish Times reported in the build up to the last match that an Armagh player turned up for the press briefing with players from other counties, refused to say a word, collected his cheque, and left.

Nice implication of the player as a mercenary there Hound. Armagh are obliged to provide a player for these game promotion photos, they are not obliged to do interviews. Happens the press treat them as a free lunch - tag along and pick up the handy interviews.

This type of thread is great for highlighting the posters with media agendas...
Good one!
I've no media agenda chap. Just quoted what the Irish Times reported.

Not a bother sir.

Sure throw up the link there where the Irish Times published what you quote
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: naka on August 06, 2014, 10:00:52 PM
 ;)reading the newry democrat and newry reporter
seems Pablo grimley has given interviews to them( he communicating with the locals)
for what its worth the irish news insinuated about Dunne which has rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way but Heaney etc too arrogant to realise that
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
No they didnt. They allocated categories of games, RTE and Sky had freedom to pick individual matches within those categories.

As I said, they designed the system.

And while I don't want to come across as paranoid, Dublin all of whose games are at home get several games on terrestial TV for those not wanting to travel the 10Km to the game. Armagh, who had only one game at home get no games on regular TV.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Sandy Hill on August 06, 2014, 10:12:03 PM
Quote from: mackers on August 06, 2014, 11:00:06 AM
While I don't agree with the blanket media ban this has shown how seriously the media take themselves....the IN will have nothing else to write about if the ban is over.....it has filled some column inches for them over the last few weeks.

The IN will have no problem filling their columns; they'll just continue, as is usual with them, to write reams and reams of sycophantic shite about Tyrone.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Zulu on August 06, 2014, 10:29:10 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
No they didnt. They allocated categories of games, RTE and Sky had freedom to pick individual matches within those categories.

As I said, they designed the system.

And while I don't want to come across as paranoid, Dublin all of whose games are at home get several games on terrestial TV for those not wanting to travel the 10Km to the game. Armagh, who had only one game at home get no games on regular TV.

Paranoid it is so.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: screenexile on August 06, 2014, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 06, 2014, 10:29:10 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
No they didnt. They allocated categories of games, RTE and Sky had freedom to pick individual matches within those categories.

As I said, they designed the system.

And while I don't want to come across as paranoid, Dublin all of whose games are at home get several games on terrestial TV for those not wanting to travel the 10Km to the game. Armagh, who had only one game at home get no games on regular TV.

Paranoid it is so.

I agree! What a load of shite. Your games were on TV wise up!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: JP on August 06, 2014, 11:13:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
No they didnt. They allocated categories of games, RTE and Sky had freedom to pick individual matches within those categories.

As I said, they designed the system.

And while I don't want to come across as paranoid, Dublin all of whose games are at home get several games on terrestrial TV for those not wanting to travel the 10Km to the game. Armagh, who had only one game at home get no games on regular TV.

In fairness Sky got the choose each round of the qualifers which game they wanted to show, they chose us, we should be flattered. The other games such as Kildare V Down weren't shown at all. So there is no grounds to complain there.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: BennyHarp on August 06, 2014, 11:26:17 PM
Quote from: JP on August 06, 2014, 11:13:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
No they didnt. They allocated categories of games, RTE and Sky had freedom to pick individual matches within those categories.

As I said, they designed the system.

And while I don't want to come across as paranoid, Dublin all of whose games are at home get several games on terrestrial TV for those not wanting to travel the 10Km to the game. Armagh, who had only one game at home get no games on regular TV.

In fairness Sky got the choose each round of the qualifers which game they wanted to show, they chose us, we should be flattered. The other games such as Kildare V Down weren't shown at all. So there is no grounds to complain there.

I genuinely think Armaghniac would prefer if the game was not on TV at all rather than if it was on Sky.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: JP on August 06, 2014, 11:34:47 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 06, 2014, 11:26:17 PM
Quote from: JP on August 06, 2014, 11:13:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
No they didnt. They allocated categories of games, RTE and Sky had freedom to pick individual matches within those categories.

As I said, they designed the system.

And while I don't want to come across as paranoid, Dublin all of whose games are at home get several games on terrestrial TV for those not wanting to travel the 10Km to the game. Armagh, who had only one game at home get no games on regular TV.

In fairness Sky got the choose each round of the qualifers which game they wanted to show, they chose us, we should be flattered. The other games such as Kildare V Down weren't shown at all. So there is no grounds to complain there.

I genuinely think Armaghniac would prefer if the game was not on TV at all rather than if it was on Sky.

To be honest I have enjoyed the Sky coverage. Don't have to listen to the likes of Tommy Carr during the game or Pat Spillane in the middle of it.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 11:57:20 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 06, 2014, 10:29:10 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 06, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
No they didnt. They allocated categories of games, RTE and Sky had freedom to pick individual matches within those categories.

As I said, they designed the system.

And while I don't want to come across as paranoid, Dublin all of whose games are at home get several games on terrestial TV for those not wanting to travel the 10Km to the game. Armagh, who had only one game at home get no games on regular TV.

Paranoid it is so.

Because you are  paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: rrhf on August 07, 2014, 07:34:59 AM
Armagh have been very dignified on what is tantamount to oppression. Their suffering has been incalculable.  I can't see them ever making another audible noise.. today as a mark of solidarity with our suffering angry brothers in Armagh can we all self impose a media ban..
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 08:19:48 AM
 http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html  (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html)

Jesus some Journalists really believe their opinion matters.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Zip Code on August 07, 2014, 08:23:12 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 06, 2014, 11:16:48 AM
I see Paddy Heaney is urging the apple chompers to call an end to it. I think he has written that article a couple of times now over the years.

His thinking is that the players will look back in years to come and think they missed out in fully appreciating their great fun. Wise up Paddy.

Has Paddy ever apologised for the shite he penned after the Cavan match?
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: ONeill on August 07, 2014, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 08:19:48 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html  (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html)

Jesus some Journalists really believe their opinion matters.

Haha! That piece is a laugh. Yer man Fogarty was probably boiling over writing that. He comes across a bit of a tit there.

It sort of shows how crap sports journalism has become. Write about the football lads. Not babies.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Zip Code on August 07, 2014, 08:29:55 AM
Quote from: Zulu on August 06, 2014, 03:49:38 PM
Is this for real? Every national newspaper in Ireland should do a weekly spoof article on Armagh, as O'Neill suggested, from now on. It was nonsense carry on before now but if they actually cancelled a news conference they were going to have on the morning of it then they deserve no sympathy from anyone. Siege mentality me arse!

The Irish News did a blinder of a one after the Cavan game - so there would be no change there.  O'Neill is nearly as infatuated with Armagh as the media at this stage.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: AZOffaly on August 07, 2014, 10:01:04 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 08:19:48 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html  (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html)

Jesus some Journalists really believe their opinion matters.

Sad.

At what point in our history did journalists move from reporting the news into giving their opinion of it? Who really cares what some lad with a degree from college thinks about Donegal's defense? Sure a lot of people have degrees from college, just not in 'writing'. Why is their opinion given ANY more weight than anyone else's? Obviously I'm interested in the opinion of ex-players because of the perspective they bring, and I like a good article well written by a journo who knows he or she are not the story, the subject is the story.

But journalists, and sports journalists in particular, whose only function seems to be to enlighten us with their opinions get on my tits.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Hardy on August 07, 2014, 10:34:55 AM
Press conference goes ahead after all (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/3417626)
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: armaghniac on August 07, 2014, 10:50:23 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 07, 2014, 10:01:04 AM
But journalists, and sports journalists in particular, whose only function seems to be to enlighten us with their opinions get on my tits.

Quite. Here we see rants posted all the time, but journalists get paid for posting rants in publications we have to pay to read!!

And as for history graduates, if a person had acquired academic method of properly researching things before writing then that might be of some benefit, but there is no evidence of this in Irish journalism. In Ireland there are are good and responsible journalists, but they are often drowned out by those without professional standards.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: ONeill on August 07, 2014, 10:55:19 AM
Juvenile journalism caused ban, says Armagh's Paul Grimley

BY JOHN CAMPBELL – 07 AUGUST 2014

Armagh manager Paul Grimley has hit out at what he feels is "juvenile journalism" in relation to the county's media ban.

And, as Armagh absorb further brickbats following the 11th hour cancellation of yesterday's planned media briefing at the Carrickdale Hotel near Dundalk, he now insists no such blanket ban has existed.

"I am not under any contractual obligation to speak to any element of the media. I have a basic human right to speak to whom I choose and I will continue to exercise that right," insists the Armagh boss.

"I think we have seen the juvenile side of GAA journalism of late in relation to Armagh. There are even journalists who make the point that no one would be interested in Armagh anyway so it is baffling to see them continue to write about us. Strange that, isn't it?"

"It is also disturbing that certain journalists, both north and south, have seen fit to continually refer to the team management and county board in derogatory terms. One of the most recent instances of this was when our county board was described as 'spineless' and it's hardly surprising that some members of the board would like to meet the journalist in question to seek clarification on his remarks."

"The county board and executive in Armagh are people who are held in high esteem and do not deserve to be vilified by any journalist."

Grimley may have found himself in the firing line of late – it is understood that the GAA's top brass had a part to play in organising yesterday's media event that never was – but he is certainly unrepentant as he channels all his energies into planning for Saturday's showdown with Ulster champions Donegal.

And the Armagh boss stresses that what he refers to as "a so-called media ban" has not really been in operation.

"Go back over recent weeks and you will see that players like Kevin Dyas, Stefan Campbell and Ciaran McKeever have picked up significant man of the match awards and there was certainly no gag placed on them when they went to take delivery of their respective trophies," points out Grimley.

"I had asked them, though, to dwell on their own performances and contributions rather than on the team's display or tactics."

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/juvenile-journalism-caused-ban-says-armaghs-paul-grimley-30488731.html
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on August 07, 2014, 11:04:44 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 08:19:48 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html  (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html)

Jesus some Journalists really believe their opinion matters.

He has some previous with McGeeney.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: ONeill on August 07, 2014, 11:05:54 AM
But Oisin hits back for the media:

McConville: Armagh media ban 'gone to ridiculous level'

Former Armagh star Oisín McConville, pictured, claims the county's behaviour has reached a ridiculous level after they pulled out of a scheduled press conference yesterday.

The GAA were left embarrassed when the All-Ireland quarter-finalists pulled the plug on an event set to take place in the Carrickdale Hotel.

Selector Peter McDonnell and injured captain Ciaran McKeever had been expected to be in attendance.

In a statement, the GAA said they would endeavour to ensure Armagh players and management would be available for interview before and after this Saturday's clash with Donegal.

The latest act runs consistent with Armagh's selective media ban, which extends to the national media, although Stefan Campbell appeared on Sky Sports after last weekend's victory over Meath.

Their stance stems back to their Ulster quarter-final win over Cavan when manager Paul Grimley claimed "hysterical" media coverage of the counties' pre-match row had convinced the GAA to serve three Armagh players with one-match bans as well as a €5,000 fine.

Cavan were also handed down the same fine with two players banned.

Croke Park had only been informed yesterday morning of the Armagh management's decision not to go ahead with the press conference.

Head of communications Alan Milton said: "We discussed the event with the Armagh County Board and the relevant parties, and we wouldn't have put it out there if there wasn't an understanding that it would take place."

McConville has been dismayed by the action and can't understand how the management believe it will aid their preparations for Donegal.

"I was buoyed by the fact we were going to speak to journalists. I thought, 'right, they've made their point' and were moving on. But this now smacks of a county that's looking for headlines rather than trying to shy away from there. For it to be pulled at the last minute doesn't seem right.

"I have spoken to lots of Armagh people on this. The important thing to them is that the team are going well and that's an essential point to make. The second point is people at this stage are just wondering what is going on.

"Most supporters could understand why they felt they needed to make the point and that's probably fair enough but it's now gone to a ridiculous level and this latest incident doesn't help anybody. It doesn't help the PR of Armagh, it doesn't help the sponsors or the team.

"The focus has to be on Donegal and the massive task ahead of the players. But this stuff is just a distraction and it won't help."

McConville suggests Donegal, as much as Armagh, have been indulging in gamesmanship ahead of the last eight fixture.

He believes Martin McHugh's "two-trick pony" remarks about Colm Cooper were an attempt to take the focus off Donegal ahead of the game.

"If you're gonna be Hercule Poirot about it you almost feel as if they're trying to deflect from the camp just as Martin McHugh's comments at the weekend deflected on Donegal. Both propaganda machines are trying quite hard."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/cwqlidgbsnau/rss2/
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: ONeill on August 07, 2014, 11:08:04 AM
Aided by McGuinness' nemesis, D Bogue:

It's time for Armagh to put an end to childish tantrum

BY DECLAN BOGUE – 07 AUGUST 2014

Is this one of these 'media writing about media' bore-fests that the media loves, or is there a nonplussed indifference to the entire scenario surrounding the Armagh media ban?

Is it even a media ban? I don't think it can be, given the companion piece to this column on the same page is an interview willingly given by Armagh manager Paul Grimley to my colleague John Campbell.

You will see from Paul's comments that he and his squad feels wronged over the course of the summer. It has led to probably the worst-kept media bans in the history of the GAA.

Because Kevin Dyas was allowed to speak at the presentation of his Ulster GAA Writers' Monthly Award. Stefan Campbell was allowed to speak to Sky after winning his Man of the Match Award. And when an email dropped into the inboxes of the country's GAA journalists on Tuesday, the prevailing notion was they had seen sense.

Not that speaking to players and management is any great thrill. The fact is, while their opinions matter in the context of a game, they are still human. Therefore, you will have boring footballers, just as you have boring bricklayers and boring accountants and boring journalists. Nobody gets excited about speaking to somebody who could bore their way through five minutes of post-match platitudes.

But, in nominating Peter McDonnell and Ciaran McKeever, there was juice to the story. Take McKeever for example. In years gone by, he granted many interviews, one that appeared in Gaelic Life while I was editor a particular favourite.

With the interviewer, Ciaran Woods, he talked about his 'apprenticeship' as a player under Kieran McGeeney, his knowledge and appreciation of green tea and how he had faced the scourge of online abuse. He revealed himself to be engaging and forthright.

His own development this year as Armagh's main ball-playing defender, along with the influence of McGeeney back in as selector, were all interesting topics to be covered. And that's before we even got onto his thoughts on the Donegal reinvention since the two teams last met in 2010 and how their paths have been blown off course since.

And consider Peter McDonnell. Last week he was quoted in a newspaper as saying "people would need to retrace their steps very accurately. Respect and good manners are not difficult qualities to carry.

"We would feel that we have been disrespected and dismissed and portrayed inaccurately ...

"Those ... who seek to report accurately and honestly do a marvellous job. Those who wish to pursue more insidious lines, motivated by factors that do not have the good of our county at heart, are another story altogether."

Now that deserved a little more clarification.

The curious thing about all this is that last year Armagh arranged an excellent media evening before the Ulster Championship, where the media was treated to the usual outstanding hospitality in the Athletic Grounds.

That the team went on to lose to Cavan and then ultimately Roscommon in the qualifiers had nothing to do with their good courtesy at the time, just as their relative success in getting to an All-Ireland quarter-final bears no relation to their silly games now.

Having interviewed McDonnell at the aforementioned press evening last summer and found him to be a philosophical, interesting deep-thinker, I don't think it would have been disrespectful to ask him at a press event what he meant by respect and good manners. I would also have asked him how the 'resolution was achieved' and how much influence Croke Park had on the hastily assembled press day.

Ultimately, the whole thing is laughable at this stage. There is no way a media blackout is fostering any real siege mentality among the players, who are all too clever to truly force themselves to believe it.

Whether Armagh talk are not is irrelevant, but the only people they cheat, in the end, remains themselves. Whoever is making the decisions in the camp need to take themselves a little less seriously.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/its-time-for-armagh-to-put-an-end-to-childish-tantrum-30488708.html
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Zip Code on August 07, 2014, 11:44:04 AM
O'Neill is truly obsessed with Armagh, obviously too much time on his hands in the summer months!!!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 07, 2014, 12:36:40 PM
"Those ... who seek to report accurately and honestly do a marvellous job. Those who wish to pursue more insidious lines, motivated by factors that do not have the good of our county at heart, are another story altogether."

Sounds like a description of Bogue.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 12:51:44 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on August 07, 2014, 11:04:44 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 08:19:48 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html  (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html)

Jesus some Journalists really believe their opinion matters.

He has some previous with McGeeney.

Yea aware of that, my perception would be he lets his personal opinions get in the way of his writing too easily, a poor trait in any sports journalist - he also went to town on Kildare supporters for endangering the life of Joe McQuillian after the Tyrone game last year.
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: heffo on August 07, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 12:51:44 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on August 07, 2014, 11:04:44 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 08:19:48 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html  (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html)

Jesus some Journalists really believe their opinion matters.

He has some previous with McGeeney.

Yea aware of that, my perception would be he lets his personal opinions get in the way of his writing too easily, a poor trait in any sports journalist - he also went to town on Kildare supporters for endangering the life of Joe McQuillian after the Tyrone game last year.

McGeeney asked him outside at a press conference when he was asked about an 'approach' to Shane Supple
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: orangeman on August 07, 2014, 01:15:09 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 07, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 12:51:44 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on August 07, 2014, 11:04:44 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 08:19:48 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html  (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html)

Jesus some Journalists really believe their opinion matters.

He has some previous with McGeeney.

Yea aware of that, my perception would be he lets his personal opinions get in the way of his writing too easily, a poor trait in any sports journalist - he also went to town on Kildare supporters for endangering the life of Joe McQuillian after the Tyrone game last year.

McGeeney asked him outside at a press conference when he was asked about an 'approach' to Shane Supple

Outside as in boxing terms ? Or just for a cup of tea ?.

Mc Geeney after one of the International rules games where the Australians were throwing digs, was very cross and famously said -  if they want to box, we'll box !!
Title: Re: The long wait is coming to an end!
Post by: heffo on August 07, 2014, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: orangeman on August 07, 2014, 01:15:09 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 07, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 12:51:44 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on August 07, 2014, 11:04:44 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2014, 08:19:48 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html  (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/petulant-armagh-only-losers-in-this-sorry-mess-278697.html)

Jesus some Journalists really believe their opinion matters.

He has some previous with McGeeney.

Yea aware of that, my perception would be he lets his personal opinions get in the way of his writing too easily, a poor trait in any sports journalist - he also went to town on Kildare supporters for endangering the life of Joe McQuillian after the Tyrone game last year.

McGeeney asked him outside at a press conference when he was asked about an 'approach' to Shane Supple
Outside as in boxing terms ? Or just for a cup of tea ?.

Outside as in don't dare ask me questions around my transfer policy!