Before the Ulster Final a vigil is taking place to show Ulster's solidarity with the people of Gaza.
We're looking for as many people as possible to wear their county colours.
So if you're going to the match, from Donegal, Derry, Antrim, Down, Armagh, Monaghan, Cavan, Fermanagh and Tyrone, wear your county jersey and assemble between 1.30pm-3.45pm. at the old Largy School next to the football field.
Gaels for Gaza. Great idea. If I can make it, i'll be there. Have flag, can travel......
Not in favour of this.It will lead to loads of criticism from our separated brethern in the North,only too keen to bash the GAA.Politics should be kept out of the GAA
Quote from: T Fearon on July 19, 2014, 08:17:33 AM
Not in favour of this.It will lead to loads of criticism from our separated brethern in the North,only too keen to bash the GAA.Politics should be kept out of the GAA
That says more for them then us.
Quote from: JP on July 19, 2014, 08:19:52 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 19, 2014, 08:17:33 AM
Not in favour of this.It will lead to loads of criticism from our separated brethern in the North,only too keen to bash the GAA.Politics should be kept out of the GAA
That says more for them then us.
Yes it does but Tony is right that it will bring on the usual from them. Still it should go ahead as some things are bigger than the skewed sewer politics that dictates people's mindsets in our wee cuntry!
Keep politics out of the GAA.
This isn't politics, its about humanity.
Gaa were and are happy to be used by politicians. Why not on this occasion ?.
I assume this demonstration hasn't the blessing of the GAA ?.
Where are the vigils for the weekly slaughters in Iraq?
This is a vigil outside of GAA grounds. If anyone wants to join in, fine. If they dont want to join and want to go on into the ground, then fine as well.
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Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2014, 10:50:05 AM
Where are the vigils for the weekly slaughters in Iraq?
Organise one then Tommy, if you feel strongly enough about it.
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2014, 10:50:05 AM
Where are the vigils for the weekly slaughters in Iraq?
Or for the people blown out of the sky above the Ukranian countryside.
Quote from: orangeman on July 19, 2014, 10:47:41 AM
Gaa were and are happy to be used by politicians. Why not on this occasion ?.
I assume this demonstration hasn't the blessing of the GAA ?.
It's not taking place on GAA property, once people are inside they can do as they wish, so long as it doens't interfere with others' enjoyment of the occassion. People can buy and eat crap, get drunk... this doesn't mean that the GAA supports their behaviour, so whether the likes of Padraig Duffy gives his blessing or not for this show of solidarity is irrelevant.
Others on here have come up with all sorts of baloney to justify their own inaction. This is about individual GAA supporters and members, using the gathering to show solidarity to a people that are being hammered by a state force, that has the backing of the west.
While there will be people killed in a variety of other places in the world, it is unclear whether any useful pressure can be brought to influence these situations. Isreal likes to portray itself as respectable in a way that the likes of Syria does not.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 19, 2014, 08:40:52 AM
Quote from: JP on July 19, 2014, 08:19:52 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 19, 2014, 08:17:33 AM
Not in favour of this.It will lead to loads of criticism from our separated brethern in the North,only too keen to bash the GAA.Politics should be kept out of the GAA
That says more for them then us.
Yes it does but Tony is right that it will bring on the usual from them. Still it should go ahead as some things are bigger than the skewed sewer politics that dictates people's mindsets in our wee cuntry!
Poppycock from Tony, lacks conviction and moral fibre.
One should act if one feels the action is moral and just and not let oneself be controlled by such things as, will it disturb the peace of mind of the KKK etc 'Oh my boy, don't go upsetting the likes of Bubba or Wullie with that civil rights talk'.
And this is not a political event taking place on a GAA ground, not even the GAA own the streets of Clones.
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Surely there is some sort human rights violation there, putting children in antrim jerseys is a disgrace!
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Surely there is some sort human rights violation there, putting children in antrim jerseys is a disgrace!
They would probably make the panel !
Why wasn't there a vigil for the 150000 Syrians killed
Maybe because hey were killed by Muslims backed by Iran, they don't fit your narrative
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Quote from: whitey on July 19, 2014, 07:20:41 PM
Why wasn't there a vigil for the 150000 Syrians killed
Maybe because hey were killed by Muslims backed by Iran, they don't fit your narrative
As I said above, what influence could we have on Syria?
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That's the tragedy, the Palestinians are always on the losing side.
Quote from: armaghniac on July 19, 2014, 11:28:34 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 19, 2014, 07:20:41 PM
Why wasn't there a vigil for the 150000 Syrians killed
Maybe because hey were killed by Muslims backed by Iran, they don't fit your narrative
As I said above, what influence could we have on Syria?
Quote from: give her dixie on July 19, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
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That's the tragedy, the Palestinians are always on the losing side.
You're a bad article ;D
I would say after viewing Canavan on youtube a few times his picture will have replaced Yasser on the wall by now.
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on July 20, 2014, 12:07:08 AM
I would say after viewing Canavan on youtube a few times his picture will have replaced Yasser on the wall by now.
They use to shout "Alahu Akbur" (God is great) in Gaza, now they shout "Peter Akbur"
Politics has no room is sport.
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 01:26:57 AM
Politics has no room is sport.
On the contrary, politics and sport have always mixed and will continue to mix - the GAA itself throughout its history is an obvious example.
Saying sport and politics don't mix is one of the laziest cliches out there.
Quote from: Sidney on July 20, 2014, 02:01:19 AM
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 01:26:57 AM
Politics has no room is sport.
On the contrary, politics and sport have always mixed and will continue to mix - the GAA itself throughout its history is an obvious example.
Saying sport and politics don't mix is one of the laziest cliches out there.
Absolutely. That sounds like a recent Man City or Chelsea fan trying to justify their team selection.
Quote from: Sidney on July 20, 2014, 02:01:19 AM
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 01:26:57 AM
Politics has no room is sport.
On the contrary, politics and sport have always mixed and will continue to mix - the GAA itself throughout its history is an obvious example.
Saying sport and politics don't mix is one of the laziest cliches out there.
Just out of curiosity...do you think a pro Israel demonstration should be allowed as well?
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2014, 03:05:04 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 20, 2014, 02:01:19 AM
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 01:26:57 AM
Politics has no room is sport.
On the contrary, politics and sport have always mixed and will continue to mix - the GAA itself throughout its history is an obvious example.
Saying sport and politics don't mix is one of the laziest cliches out there.
Just out of curiosity...do you think a pro Israel demonstration should be allowed as well?
Absoutley. If you want to organise one, I will give you a lift
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2014, 03:05:04 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 20, 2014, 02:01:19 AM
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 01:26:57 AM
Politics has no room is sport.
On the contrary, politics and sport have always mixed and will continue to mix - the GAA itself throughout its history is an obvious example.
Saying sport and politics don't mix is one of the laziest cliches out there.
Just out of curiosity...do you think a pro Israel demonstration should be allowed as well?
If the residents of Clones are fine with it, why not? Good luck with organising it.
Do you think it was right that apartheid South Africa was banned from international sport?
Quote from: Sidney on July 20, 2014, 08:55:02 AM
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2014, 03:05:04 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 20, 2014, 02:01:19 AM
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 01:26:57 AM
Politics has no room is sport.
On the contrary, politics and sport have always mixed and will continue to mix - the GAA itself throughout its history is an obvious example.
Saying sport and politics don't mix is one of the laziest cliches out there.
Just out of curiosity...do you think a pro Israel demonstration should be allowed as well?
If the residents of Clones are fine with it, why not? Good luck with organising it.
Do you think it was right that apartheid South Africa was banned from international sport?
I have a pretty good memory, but I dont seem to recall the ANC lobbing thousands of missiles into the residential neighbourhoods of Johannesburg and Pretoria.
Youre comparing apples and oranges here
QuoteI have a pretty good memory, but I dont seem to recall the ANC lobbing thousands of missiles into the residential neighbourhoods of Johannesburg and Pretoria.
So people that bomb residential neighbourhoods are clearly in the wrong, in your opinion?
Quote from: armaghniac on July 20, 2014, 02:12:13 PM
QuoteI have a pretty good memory, but I dont seem to recall the ANC lobbing thousands of missiles into the residential neighbourhoods of Johannesburg and Pretoria.
So people that bomb residential neighbourhoods are clearly in the wrong, in your opinion?
I'm talking about Hamas....not sure who you're referring to
Does Israel not also bomb residential areas, beaches and the like?
Quote from: Sidney on July 20, 2014, 02:01:19 AM
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 01:26:57 AM
Politics has no room is sport.
On the contrary, politics and sport have always mixed and will continue to mix - the GAA itself throughout its history is an obvious example.
Saying sport and politics don't mix is one of the laziest cliches out there.
So lets just say the British take a lot of interest in the GAA over the next 50 years, would you support the GAA being used as a tool for British political issues? When someone refuses to wear a poppy the majority of Irishmen say that politics has no room in sport.
Quote from: Sidney on July 20, 2014, 02:01:19 AM
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 01:26:57 AM
Politics has no room is sport.
On the contrary, politics and sport have always mixed and will continue to mix - the GAA itself throughout its history is an obvious example.
Saying sport and politics don't mix is one of the laziest cliches out there.
You're fond of bringing politics into sport
'Ulster Gaels'
I've never understood 'Gael' being used to describe GAA people, the Gaels were people who lived in Gaelic Ireland centuries ago, it's a bit like calling Cork City FC Vikings.
Well done Donegal as they raise the Palestine flag high in Clones at the final whistle.
Quote from: give her dixie on July 20, 2014, 05:41:24 PM
Well done Donegal as they raise the Palestine flag high in Clones at the final whistle.
There'll be trouble about this !!!
Quote from: orangeman on July 20, 2014, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on July 20, 2014, 05:41:24 PM
Well done Donegal as they raise the Palestine flag high in Clones at the final whistle.
There'll be trouble about this !!!
The BBC are beside themselves trying to cut away every time the camera picks up the flags on the pitch.
I have flown my flag at GAA grounds, and will continue to do so !!!
Quote from: hardstation on July 20, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
I remember being in Croke Park for an Ulster Final when there was a minute silence for people who died in England.
7/7 attacks in London if I remember correctly?
The people at the match today are the GAA and can put up any bloody flag they want. Ive no love for Hamas, a bunch of counter productive fools but what israel is doing is breeching all rules if war. If the tools in power in this country had any moral fibre they would expel the Israeli ambassador and stop trade with that country.
Itchy, Israel does not recognise the conflict with Hamas as "war", just as Britain doesn't recognise the conflict in the Six Counties as "war"; by refusing to do so they do not have to abide by any "rules of war". Hence the atrocities.
And for those of you yelping and gurning that people should not use the GAA as a political tool, cast your mind back to the 1992 European Championship when Denmark, which was invited in only after Serbia was kicked out, won the tournament.
Re. our northern Six Counties brethren who would be pro-Israel, I assume none of them were in the Spion Kop in 1992 when the loyal and faithful threw packets of bacon at the Israelis every time they got a corner!
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 04:49:38 PM
'Ulster Gaels'
I've never understood 'Gael' being used to describe GAA people, the Gaels were people who lived in Gaelic Ireland centuries ago, it's a bit like calling Cork City FC Vikings.
So when did they move out ?
Quote from: haveaharp on July 22, 2014, 09:24:34 AM
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 04:49:38 PM
'Ulster Gaels'
I've never understood 'Gael' being used to describe GAA people, the Gaels were people who lived in Gaelic Ireland centuries ago, it's a bit like calling Cork City FC Vikings.
So when did they move out ?
There might be a clue in the name
Gaelic Athletic Association!
Quote from: Keyser soze on July 22, 2014, 10:16:46 AM
Quote from: haveaharp on July 22, 2014, 09:24:34 AM
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 04:49:38 PM
'Ulster Gaels'
I've never understood 'Gael' being used to describe GAA people, the Gaels were people who lived in Gaelic Ireland centuries ago, it's a bit like calling Cork City FC Vikings.
So when did they move out ?
There might be a clue in the name Gaelic Athletic Association!
Yes an association that didn't exist in Medieval Ireland, that would mean someone from Germany who plays Hurling is a Gael yet someone called Conor O'Doherty from Donegal who has no interest in GAA isn't, there is more to Gaelic culture than sport.
That banner saying 'Ulster Gaels' is a fine example, I would say over 90% of people from Ulster have descent from Gaelic clans regardless what religion they are or what sport they follow.
I'm a GAA fan but I believe this thing of GAA people thinking they are more Gaelic needs to be stopped.
Quote from: haveaharp on July 22, 2014, 09:24:34 AM
Quote from: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 04:49:38 PM
'Ulster Gaels'
I've never understood 'Gael' being used to describe GAA people, the Gaels were people who lived in Gaelic Ireland centuries ago, it's a bit like calling Cork City FC Vikings.
So when did they move out ?
They never but put it like this, Ireland in the 1400's wasn't full of GAA pitches, it was a different society and they were a very different type of people than the modern Irishman, this is why I describe myself as being 'descended from gaels' and not 'a gael'