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Title: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: magpie seanie on July 04, 2014, 01:01:11 PM
Well the general level of enthusiasm over this tie is just unreal! Don't think we've many if any Wicklow posters and the Sligo crew are probably like myself, dreading the game! We got a monumental hammering last weekend off Roscommon followed by a dressingroom barney. Most seem to think the latter is a good sign but I would pay more attention to what happened on the field. Also, arguably our best scoring forward who has been treated like crap all year headed for Boston on Wednesday. We're in poor shape.

Wicklow look to be a better side than when they beat us a few years ago.

Do the math as they yanks say!
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Syferus on July 04, 2014, 01:07:25 PM
How do Wicklow look better than they did under Micko? I think they look significantly worse to be honest, their league form now carries through to their championship form.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Shrewdness on July 04, 2014, 01:53:18 PM
Seanie, if Sligo can get their heads right, then this match is very winnable for them. But it's going to be a test for them. As far as i know the game is in Aughrim, which means that Wicklow will be well revved up for it. The big unknown is Sligo's state of mind. The Galway defeat followed by their annihilation in the Roscommon challenge will have taken their toll. If assessed on footballing ability, i'd give Sligo a hesitant vote, but if they're not mentally tuned in, Wicklow would be well capable of nailing them in Aughrim. A hard game to call.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: highorlow on July 04, 2014, 02:24:52 PM
When is this match?
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: magpie seanie on July 04, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Tomorrow at 5pm.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Mano on July 04, 2014, 05:57:31 PM
I read on a Hoganstand that Kilcullen is gone on holidays. Is this true Seanie?
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 04, 2014, 11:57:57 PM
Are Sligo as bad as seanie is saying? Is Eamon O'Hara the solution?
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Syferus on July 05, 2014, 12:05:41 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 04, 2014, 11:57:57 PM
Are Sligo as bad as seanie is saying? Is Eamon O'Hara the solution?

On the field or in the dug-out?
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Don Corleone on July 05, 2014, 12:46:56 AM
Okrim is an hard place to get out of, almost as hard as to get into. I wonder why nobody calls it by it's proper title. *
As a point of order, can anyone give me the name of the so-called Wexford Park.....

*O'Byrne Park.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Rossfan on July 05, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
Best of luck to Sligo - they'll need it going by their own posters.
Be nice to have a few Connacht Counties in the pot.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: sligoman2 on July 05, 2014, 03:11:19 PM
Head to know what to expect, we have a habit if winning games when no one expects us to, it sounds like all is not well in camp Sligo, but a win today would be a nice boost.
I hope pf is a little smarter with tactics today and changes the midfield pairings.

Anyone know what the story is with Kelly marren and Hughes who are all doubtful according to the papers
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Syferus on July 05, 2014, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on July 05, 2014, 03:11:19 PM
Head to know what to expect, we have a habit if winning games when no one expects us to, it sounds like all is not well in camp Sligo, but a win today would be a nice boost.
I hope pf is a little smarter with tactics today and changes the midfield pairings.

Anyone know what the story is with Kelly marren and Hughes who are all doubtful according to the papers

Marren and Hughes have ankle injuries and Kelly's hamstring injury reoccurred from what I read.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Syferus on July 05, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
Sligo 0-12 Wicklow 0-10 FT.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: magpie seanie on July 05, 2014, 06:39:17 PM
Surprised and glad to be wrong.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 05, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 05, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
Sligo 0-12 Wicklow 0-10 FT.

Good win for Sligo in fortress Aughrim.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: sligoman2 on July 05, 2014, 06:49:50 PM
Subs were the difference, coen and Rooney made a big diff when they came on with Coen scoring two points.
I would expect coen to start the next game in place of Brehony who seemed to struggle and was easily knocked off the ball.  Marren was non exisrent once again and may be injured but we can't be carrying any passengers.


Fair play top Flanagan for changing the midfield I think McIntyre and McDonnell both did well.

Tough luck to Wicklow, they had a lot of wides in the second half
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Blowitupref on July 05, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
Was said on RTE it was Sligos first win in the qualifiers since 2009 is that correct?
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Syferus on July 05, 2014, 07:03:20 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 05, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
Was said on RTE it was Sligos first win in the qualifiers since 2009 is that correct?

Yup.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: armaghniac on July 05, 2014, 07:03:20 PM
The qualifiers have seen defeats for teams from Derry,Aughrim and the Boyne.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Shrewdness on July 05, 2014, 09:51:54 PM
Well done to Sligo. Good to go to Aughrim and emerge with a win.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: baoithe on July 05, 2014, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on July 05, 2014, 06:49:50 PM
Subs were the difference, coen and Rooney made a big diff when they came on with Coen scoring two points.
I would expect coen to start the next game in place of Brehony who seemed to struggle and was easily knocked off the ball.  Marren was non exisrent once again and may be injured but we can't be carrying any passengers.


Fair play top Flanagan for changing the midfield I think McIntyre and McDonnell both did well.

Tough luck to Wicklow, they had a lot of wides in the second half

I'm a bit rushed here but will give a brief summary of the game as I saw it.

Sorry Sligoman2 but Rooney was not good in my opinion  (he would not be in my team (but then who am I?)) and Coen pulled out of a 50/50 challenge when the game was in the melting pot. He was also outmuscled a fair but. That said, he did take his point very well to go ahead when Wicklow had levelled.

McDonnell was absolutely outstanding. He fetched a few great balls; he won breaking ball and run with real pace at Wicklow. He is going to be a very good footballer. This week we had more aggression; created overlaps and fought for the ball around the middle. Also we varied our kickouts although there was still too much delay in getting the ball kicked out  - even in the first half.

With all the ball we did win our ball into full forward line was poor but then Adrian Marren was not really showing - he doesn't look right to me. Kelly came out to CF in the second half when brehony went off and he largely controlled matters. The full back line played well as did midfield and half forward line. TOday there was some intensity and attempts to vary the play(we created some very good moves) and crucially the hand passing errors were well down on the last day (though not eradicated). We should have won the game by more if the final ball was right but then again I have seen many games where Sligo would have capitulated when the home team levelled matters well into the second half. The changes made in the lineup at least brought more work rate and intensity to the team.

We wont be worrying anyone else left in the draw but it is nice to win a game and Aughrim (though a lovely spot) is no easy place to go to - even if Wicklow are not very good.




Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: AZOffaly on July 05, 2014, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 05, 2014, 07:03:20 PM
The qualifiers have seen defeats for teams from Derry,Aughrim and the Boyne.

And Enniskillen.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 05, 2014, 11:40:17 PM
Wicklow don't actually have a good championship record in Aughrim
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: muppet on July 06, 2014, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 05, 2014, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 05, 2014, 07:03:20 PM
The qualifiers have seen defeats for teams from Derry,Aughrim and the Boyne.

And Enniskillen.

I think there is a link in the first 3.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: AZOffaly on July 06, 2014, 12:29:35 AM
And the 4th. Unless I have the lyrics wrong ..
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: muppet on July 06, 2014, 12:41:53 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 06, 2014, 12:29:35 AM
And the 4th. Unless I have the lyrics wrong ..

I was thinking you wouldn't miss much.

Apologies.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: orangeman on July 06, 2014, 01:03:37 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 05, 2014, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 05, 2014, 07:03:20 PM
The qualifiers have seen defeats for teams from Derry,Aughrim and the Boyne.

And Enniskillen.

And Antrim too after today.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: sligoman2 on July 06, 2014, 01:29:54 AM
Quote from: baoithe on July 05, 2014, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on July 05, 2014, 06:49:50 PM
Subs were the difference, coen and Rooney made a big diff when they came on with Coen scoring two points.
I would expect coen to start the next game in place of Brehony who seemed to struggle and was easily knocked off the ball.  Marren was non exisrent once again and may be injured but we can't be carrying any passengers.


Fair play top Flanagan for changing the midfield I think McIntyre and McDonnell both did well.

Tough luck to Wicklow, they had a lot of wides in the second half

I'm a bit rushed here but will give a brief summary of the game as I saw it.

Sorry Sligoman2 but Rooney was not good in my opinion  (he would not be in my team (but then who am I?)) and Coen pulled out of a 50/50 challenge when the game was in the melting pot. He was also outmuscled a fair but. That said, he did take his point very well to go ahead when Wicklow had levelled.

McDonnell was absolutely outstanding. He fetched a few great balls; he won breaking ball and run with real pace at Wicklow. He is going to be a very good footballer. This week we had more aggression; created overlaps and fought for the ball around the middle. Also we varied our kickouts although there was still too much delay in getting the ball kicked out  - even in the first half.

With all the ball we did win our ball into full forward line was poor but then Adrian Marren was not really showing - he doesn't look right to me. Kelly came out to CF in the second half when brehony went off and he largely controlled matters. The full back line played well as did midfield and half forward line. TOday there was some intensity and attempts to vary the play(we created some very good moves) and crucially the hand passing errors were well down on the last day (though not eradicated). We should have won the game by more if the final ball was right but then again I have seen many games where Sligo would have capitulated when the home team levelled matters well into the second half. The changes made in the lineup at least brought more work rate and intensity to the team.

We wont be worrying anyone else left in the draw but it is nice to win a game and Aughrim (though a lovely spot) is no easy place to go to - even if Wicklow are not very good.

You obviously were at the match baoithe and would be in a better position to comment. I am only going off what I heard on the radio - Coen was on for about 15 minutes and scored 2 points from play and that was the difference, it sounded like Rooney did okay too when introduced but had a poor game v Galway and I don't think he will start the next day.  I know the radio commentary can be a little biased but I think coen deserves to start the next day over Brehony, who did very little based on what I heard.

Anyway isn't it great to be talking about a next day and to be discussing who should start and who should not.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: magpie seanie on July 06, 2014, 08:06:07 AM
Was only listening on Ocean myself yesterday but I reckon on a dry day Coen is definitely worth a place. Breheny and Marren are living on their reputations. Kelly should play the Breheny role. Murphy and Coen should have been the inside men. Marren kicks a few great scores but has no workrate and doesnt even contest if a ball in isnt to his liking. Murphy of course is not about so Marren should start but he needs to work harder. I know Coen isnt the bravest at times but he always shows and contests for possession.

McDonnell has great potential. Delighted yesterday went well for him. We seemed to hoover up the breaks in the middle third yesterday that we would have expected to do against Galway. How much was down to the opponents and how much was down to better midfield play? Several balls were not even contested against Galway.

So we live to fight another day. Limerick at home would offer the best chance of progression.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: From the Bunker on July 06, 2014, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 05, 2014, 09:51:54 PM
Well done to Sligo. Good to go to Aughrim and emerge with a win.

Well done to our neighbours and great opportunity to blood players and gain confidence.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: sligoman2 on July 06, 2014, 01:55:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 06, 2014, 08:06:07 AM
Was only listening on Ocean myself yesterday but I reckon on a dry day Coen is definitely worth a place. Breheny and Marren are living on their reputations. Kelly should play the Breheny role. Murphy and Coen should have been the inside men. Marren kicks a few great scores but has no workrate and doesnt even contest if a ball in isnt to his liking. Murphy of course is not about so Marren should start but he needs to work harder. I know Coen isnt the bravest at times but he always shows and contests for possession.

McDonnell has great potential. Delighted yesterday went well for him. We seemed to hoover up the breaks in the middle third yesterday that we would have expected to do against Galway. How much was down to the opponents and how much was down to better midfield play? Several balls were not even contested against Galway.

So we live to fight another day. Limerick at home would offer the best chance of progression.

I'm not fully up to speed on the new format, who could we meet next and who can we not meet?

Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Syferus on July 06, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
Tipp, Limerick or Laois/Wexford. All doable matches.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: sligoman2 on July 06, 2014, 02:50:16 PM
Thanks Sy, all doable I agree if we could get a game at home.  I don't think we've had a home game in about 10 years
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: baoithe on July 06, 2014, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
Tipp, Limerick or Laois/Wexford. All doable matches.

I think we'd struggle against Tipp, Laois or Wexford.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Syferus on July 06, 2014, 04:08:30 PM
Quote from: baoithe on July 06, 2014, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
Tipp, Limerick or Laois/Wexford. All doable matches.

I think we'd struggle against Tipp, Laois or Wexford.

You don't have to worry about Wexford now. They were very poor this year anyways. Laois and Tipp would struggle with Sligo too. I've seen Tipp in the flesh this year and they're decent but not much more than that. Laois aren't much better, particularly in terms of their ability as footballers they're quite limited. Playing D1/2 football might give them an edge.

Sligo shouldn't be scared of any of them. If they are or aren't zoned in they'll get a flaking like any team would.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 06, 2014, 06:37:27 PM
Kevin O Donnell not McDonnell. I've seen him a bit at club level. A really good prospect for Sligo.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Mano on July 06, 2014, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 06, 2014, 06:37:27 PM
Kevin O Donnell not McDonnell. I've seen him a bit at club level. A really good prospect for Sligo.
It's McDonnell
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 06, 2014, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: Mano on July 06, 2014, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 06, 2014, 06:37:27 PM
Kevin O Donnell not McDonnell. I've seen him a bit at club level. A really good prospect for Sligo.
It's McDonnell

Sorry I wrote that the wrong way around, I think he was being deferred to as o Donnell earlier. Anyways good result for Sligo, there's plenty of beatable same in that draw yet
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: moysider on July 06, 2014, 09:39:23 PM
Quote from: Mano on July 06, 2014, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 06, 2014, 06:37:27 PM
Kevin O Donnell not McDonnell. I've seen him a bit at club level. A really good prospect for Sligo.
It's McDonnell

Is he the lad from Castleconnor that came on v Galway?
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: magpie seanie on July 06, 2014, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 06, 2014, 09:39:23 PM
Quote from: Mano on July 06, 2014, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 06, 2014, 06:37:27 PM
Kevin O Donnell not McDonnell. I've seen him a bit at club level. A really good prospect for Sligo.
It's McDonnell

Is he the lad from Castleconnor that came on v Galway?

Yeah. He's well known as he has been tagged as "one to watch" for a brave while now. I remember a friend of mine (who is not prone to getting too excited) raving about him having seen him as a 16 year old playing for the county minors. Fingers crossed he develops into what we think he can. Good signs so far.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: magpie seanie on July 07, 2014, 10:11:23 AM
Well we got the one we wanted. Gives us a good chance of progressing but obviously Limerick are no joke - should have beaten us in the league despiteall their alleged problems at the time.

I think Tipp will beat Laois.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Syferus on July 07, 2014, 10:17:55 AM
Lovely chance for Slugo to play for a place in an AIQF. Can ye play Galway again in R4?
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: commonman on July 07, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
on basis that tipp and limk couldn't meet in R3, then galway Sligo cannot meet in R4, I think that rule only comes in from round 3.

Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: Syferus on July 07, 2014, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: commonman on July 07, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
on basis that tipp and limk couldn't meet in R3, then galway Sligo cannot meet in R4, I think that rule only comes in from round 3.

That's what I thought. So unless Galway beat Mayo if Sligo win there won't be any need for a 4A draw - they'll play Cork at a neutral venue.
Title: Re: Sligo v. Wicklow - someone has to...
Post by: magpie seanie on July 07, 2014, 11:00:32 AM
James Hynes and Charlie Harrison on the GAA team of the week. Delighted especially for Hynes. Great to see new players coming through and along with McDonnell's performance a good weekend for west Sligo football. If we are to make anythnig of ourselves we need all areas of the county producing football players.