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Title: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Bud Wiser on June 30, 2014, 09:39:55 AM
Ok, so we are all passionate GAA followers or the same posters would not be hrre for a million years. A lot of us have moved around a bit since the board started and just like Gabriel Hurl, got married and started a new life in what we will call an away venue. But when does away become home?

Myself, came to Dublin in '68, a million years ago, married a Dub but to this day if Laois were playing Dublin in football I empty the lungs for the Laois cause. Hurling strangely enough I would be a "silent" Dubs supporter if they play Laois and full blown anyone else.

I play an odd game of golf with father and son who plays for Dubs and Saturday I asked the Dad who he was supporting when the son is playing Galway in the hurling, he being from Galway and his answer was "how far out are we from the pin"

So are there any of us who adapt our new abodes for our home counties?
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2014, 10:03:31 AM
Never.

If you're blessed enough to be born in Roscommon there's no distance that would make you forget home.

A little different but Andy Moran's dad is a die hard Rossie and to this day he will never cheer for Mayo, only for Andy.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: AZOffaly on June 30, 2014, 10:07:26 AM
I'm Offaly 100%, but it is an interesting question Bud, and it's relevant enough now too. I'm involved with a few different Tipperary at various times, and I've gotten to know the lads involved in Tipp fairly well, so I definitely have a grĂ¡ for Tipp now, football and hurling.

If Offaly played Tipp, and I wasn't involved in some way, I'd still shout for Offaly but I must admit I probably attend more Tipp games than Offaly ones at this point.

Coincidentally my father had the same issue when he moved the family to Offaly from Westmeath. He played with Westmeath, and ended up involved with Ferbane and Offaly. I'm still not sure which he shouts for if the two teams were playing and he wasn't involved.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: rosnarun on June 30, 2014, 10:16:34 AM
surely this is not a question of how long? as  ' how many generations will pass'?
gives me grat pleasure to see my Offaly born nieces wear the mayo Jersey even though on of them has played for Offaly u-12's
apparently such a thing exists
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: orangeman on June 30, 2014, 10:27:28 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2014, 10:03:31 AM
Never.

If you're blessed enough to be born in Roscommon there's no distance that would make you forget home.

A little different but Andy Moran's dad is a die hard Rossie and to this day he will never cheer for Mayo, only for Andy.

That man is full of badness ! He needs counselling of some sort.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2014, 10:31:45 AM
Quote from: orangeman on June 30, 2014, 10:27:28 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2014, 10:03:31 AM
Never.

If you're blessed enough to be born in Roscommon there's no distance that would make you forget home.

A little different but Andy Moran's dad is a die hard Rossie and to this day he will never cheer for Mayo, only for Andy.

That man is full of badness ! He needs counselling of some sort.

Ever been to Ballagh?
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Hardy on June 30, 2014, 03:17:11 PM
Maybe if I'd moved anywhere but to Cork it would have been a possibility.

Seriously, though, not a chance. Even my Limerick-born, Cork-reared son is a Meath supporter in football. That might have grown from attending Meath matches with me and his mad uncles from a very early age. I didn't ever suggest he should follow Meath, or shouldn't follow Cork, but I never saw any reason to take him to Cork matches, nor indeed to go to them myself. Being a man of excellent taste, he made the correct choice himself.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Lone Shark on June 30, 2014, 03:22:33 PM
In my case county allegiance stays with you, but you'll very quickly fall in with a new club as you get to know the people around. Also, they're unlikely to be in competition with your home club.

I've been a long time out of Offaly now and while the county's defeats don't hurt as much as they used to, I suspect that's more down to becoming familiar with the habit than any geographical factor.   :'(

I bear the Rossies no ill-will and would support them in any game barring one against Offaly, but I wouldn't take any real sense of joy from them winning, nor would I lose any sleep if they lost. At club level however, I'd already know a good few of the lads and would have a lot of time for them - I'd be quite vested in them already, having moved in here a year ago.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: WT4E on June 30, 2014, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2014, 10:03:31 AM
Never.

If you're blessed enough to be born in Roscommon there's no distance that would make you forget home.

A little different but Andy Moran's dad is a die hard Rossie and to this day he will never cheer for Mayo, only for Andy.

Is Andy Moran not from Roscommon too?
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2014, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 30, 2014, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2014, 10:03:31 AM
Never.

If you're blessed enough to be born in Roscommon there's no distance that would make you forget home.

A little different but Andy Moran's dad is a die hard Rossie and to this day he will never cheer for Mayo, only for Andy.

Is Andy Moran not from Roscommon too?

Raised on the sights of Tony Mac kicking the shite out of Mayo like any young Ballagh ladeen of his age. Went to the games with the ould man as a Rossie too. Sadly politics drew him to the dark side. Still time for him to do a Sean Kilbride and return home.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: rosnarun on June 30, 2014, 04:46:08 PM
when hes well past his best he may want to go abroad and drop down a division or two. but in the mean time he has serious business to take care of
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 30, 2014, 05:07:54 PM
If the majority of people in Ballagh wanted to play in Ros competitions, then I'm sure they'd have their way.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: laoislad on June 30, 2014, 05:26:58 PM
The Roscommon ones on here are getting as bad as the Nordies for taking over every thread.

As for the original question.I've been in Dublin for 13 years now. Lived in Palmerstown first, now in Lucan and hopefully by the end of the year we'll be in Ballinteer so I'm here for life I'd say but ..No never not in a million years would I ever shout for Dublin.Never.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 30, 2014, 05:29:10 PM
I'm reminded of the Munster final day a few years ago, when a parent of a Cork minor took off his Cork top after the minor game to reveal his Kerry top underneath ready for the Senior game! 2000 I think it was.

Kind of in that boat a little myself..would know more about Cork underage teams than Kerry these days and couldn't honestly shout against them, but still..would be shouting for Kerry on Sunday for example.

Quite a lot of second generation Kerry fans in Cork. I knew a lad who was a Cork u21 a few years ago and would regularly meet him at Munster finals with Kerry colours on! Strange to some, but true!

BTW, Hardy, whatever about Kerry..having the young fella supporting Meath from Cork is fairly hardcore!
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2014, 05:32:56 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 30, 2014, 05:26:58 PM
The Roscommon ones on here are getting as bad as the Nordies for taking over every thread.

As for the original question.I've been in Dublin for 13 years now. Lived in Palmerstown first, now in Lucan and hopefully by the end of the year we'll be in Ballinteer so I'm here for life I'd say but ..No never not in a million years would I ever shout for Dublin.Never.

I didn't know the thread was only for the other 30 counties.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2014, 05:40:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 30, 2014, 05:26:58 PM
The Roscommon one on here are getting as bad as the Nordies for taking over every thread.

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2014, 05:52:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 30, 2014, 05:40:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 30, 2014, 05:26:58 PM
The Roscommon one on here are getting as bad as the Nordies for taking over every thread.

Fixed that for you.

It wasn't Roscommon people that started commenting on a totally on-topic post. Shooting the messenger.

Try to keep things on topic from now on, eh?
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Hardy on June 30, 2014, 08:03:26 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 30, 2014, 05:29:10 PM
BTW, Hardy, whatever about Kerry..having the young fella supporting Meath from Cork is fairly hardcore!

Aye. He used to wear the Meath jersey all about the place here (he's out foreign now, hitched up with a Kerry woman, would ya believe). That used to worry me a bit, but he never got into any trouble. I'd never have got away with it myself, but I'm more easily riz.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: panc56 on June 30, 2014, 11:35:36 PM
Living in Dublin 20 years and there is no circumstance where I would support Dublin footballers. A great Gaa club community exists in the capital but I just can't extend that to the county set up. Maybe due to the amount of gobshites who go to Dubs matches. Strangely their hurlers I've no problem with.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Billys Boots on July 01, 2014, 09:01:02 AM
Once a Larry, always a Larry - why would you want to be anything else?
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: DoireGael on July 01, 2014, 09:33:39 AM
I personally live in London but I'm a Derry man through and through in regards supporting. Who are London's supporters? I do support them in the Connaught championship and by support I mean glance at the result on RTE etc.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Bingo on July 01, 2014, 10:14:32 AM
Round the border, specifically round Blayney it seems very easy to change colours particularly between Armagh and Monaghan. When they were winning Ulsters and the All-Ireland it was hard to tell who was from where. More recently these people seem to have taken a look at the map and have adjusted their colours accordingly. Will be interesting to see if this lasts.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: muppet on July 01, 2014, 10:20:21 AM
Lived in Dublin for 23 years.

I support the Dubs and by support I mean go to the pub, shout at the telly the wrong times and only attend Mayo games.

Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Lar Naparka on July 01, 2014, 10:28:15 AM
How long does it take to change colours?
Well, forever in the case of the true Gaels of Ballaghadereen.
For 6 long generations the worthy burghers of Ballagh have resisted the threats blandishments and/or entreaties of the sheepshaggers and mud wallahs who surround them.  Since 1898 they have remained true to their heritage
The have never wavered in their loyalty to their spiritual home.
Mark my words, Ming Flanagan will be pope long before Ballagh lowers the beloved green and red.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Rossfan on July 01, 2014, 10:43:38 AM
If the GAA clowns in Ballagh want to continue to wallow in the darkness, muck, gutter and sewerlands of backwardness and ignorance- let them at it the fools, the fools the fools....
Our revenge will be the laughter of the children the day we bring Sam to the Square so the enlightened, intelligent, progressive, go ahead folk of that town can thank God that they moved on from the darkness etc imposed on their town by the GAA club.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Billys Boots on July 01, 2014, 10:46:39 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on July 01, 2014, 09:01:02 AM
Once a Larry, always a Larry - why would you want to be anything else?

I've lived in Dublin for 30 years; my kids are Dubs supporters, which makes me want them to lose to the power of infinity. 
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Dont Matter on July 01, 2014, 10:58:54 AM
The lad that started this thread is an embarrassment to himself, his family and his original county. Support the dubs? He's the kinda fella that would tout on his neighbours to the brits to save his own skin.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Fuzzman on July 04, 2014, 03:26:27 PM
I might to reply to this thread several times as I've actually lived longer outside Tyrone now than I have in it which indeed is sad.

I went to school in Derry so in 1993 I was supporting Cork in the AI final. I know. The shame of it.
Went to college with a pile of Derry wans hi and so continued my hatred for the "Horse it into ye Sor" brigade as we fought each other in many a good battle during the 90's.

In 96 I moved to Dublin, chasing a half Donegal half Dublin woman and so I was very anti Dubs back then and surprisingly even more anti Mead for some reason
(http://inpho.ie/cache/inpho/bd/e0/52/3a0ada7bc66547eb57b8cd9f55a94c5e3d1126a087/INPHO_00006230.jpg)

Then during the noughties when we finally got our act together and football was RE-invented was when I really enjoyed playing the Dubs. The fact that we beat them a few times in big games in Croker on our way to winning the AI really added to the spectacle for me as having loads of Dublin mates at that stage.

However since 2008 and Tyrone's demise the hatred for Dublin starting to build again and I had my first born son wearing the red and white from day 1. However now with 4 kids all supporting the Dubs and their cousin MDMA it's hard to not get sucked in by it all.
I was glad to see them win it in 2011 for MDMA and his dad but I was less pleased last year.

Whilst I will always be a Tyrone fan, I find myself taking the kids to Croker now more often to watch the durty Dubs and listening to their totally biased and often scandalous fans. Of course we all have fans we're embarrassed by but I notice the fact that so many Dub fans are not used to being in the minority at matches as they rarely leave Croker that they really hate it when others shout things against the Dubs. I've already been to two Dubs match this year (league final) and I often find I'm clapping along with the kids through gritted teeth.
I'm tempted to take the eldest son to the match in Clones or Omagh but don't know is he ready to explain to him yet about the 12th July and why Armagh are not the real Orangemen.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on July 04, 2014, 04:22:34 PM
I don't think any true supporter would ever change his county allegiance if he moved elsewhere, and of course this applies to the very many culchies who end up settling in Dublin. However, many of their sons end up on the player conveyor belt which feeds the Dublin senior squad and at that point their anti-Dublin prejudice becomes blunted.

Ironic or what?
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: Fuzzman on July 05, 2014, 08:55:54 AM
Have you kids Hill?
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on July 05, 2014, 11:47:46 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 05, 2014, 08:55:54 AM
Have you kids Hill?

I do indeed. My five year old granddaughter was at her first game in Croker a few weeks ago for the match with Laois and her three year old sister was at her first game last weekend against Wexford.
Title: Re: How long does it take to change colours?
Post by: naka on July 06, 2014, 09:25:39 PM
Have lived outside Armagh more than in
But would always be true to the orchard
Have a brother whose daughter plays camogie for Armagh and son was with down minors
Mixed up family
My own kids are both born in down but are true to the faith