Any thoughts from the Kildare lads on Saturday's game.
Reports from the Dubs camp suggest that Paul Flynn, Rory O'Carroll and Alan Brogan will be available – whether or not they play is another thing.
Bernard Brogan, Denis Bastick and Dean Rock are still not fit.
One way or another it has the makings of a good game.
We're still in shock, will be Thursday before we are able to digest the thoughts of this game.
From the frying pan straight into the fire.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 04, 2014, 05:12:03 PM
From the frying pan straight into the fire.
You're sounding like a Kerry man DH (apologies to my Kerry friends ;))
It's a 50/50 game which could go either way.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on March 04, 2014, 08:38:22 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 04, 2014, 05:12:03 PM
From the frying pan straight into the fire.
You're sounding like a Kerry man DH (apologies to my Kerry friends ;))
It's a 50/50 game which could go either way.
The layers don't agree:
Dublin 1/4
Kildare 7/2
The priority is to be in contention with 10 minutes to go. The Hyland-Niall Kelly-Paddy Brophy age group have taken two hidings off Dublin at senior and one at minor, need to prove, mainly to themselves, that there's no reason they can't at least compete with them. Indeed all the Kildare players need to prove there's no psychological hang-up. Fair enough we were outclassed in championship last year but I think the work rate in the second half, for the first time in the McGeeney era, was abysmal to the point that we were lucky to lose by "only" 16. There's no shame losing to the best team in the country but we should lose to no-one by double figures. Jason Ryan has implied that some fellas had given up in the back of their minds because we were five points down at the break and I agree with him.
It would be nice to get the two points but at the very least we need to get back to the 2009-11 era when we were never more than a kick off our lovely neighbours.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 04, 2014, 08:45:39 PM
The layers don't agree:
Dublin 1/4
Kildare 7/2
If you draw a line of form between how they both fared against Cork then the bookies odds are not justified.
Kildare unchanged:
1. Shane Connolly - St Laurence's
2. Mick O'Grady - Celbridge
3. Mick Foley - Athy
4. Hugh McGrillen - Celbridge
5. Kevin Murnaghan - Moorefield
6. Fergal Conway - Celbridge
7. Paul Cribbin - Johnstownbridge
8. Tommy Moolick - Leixlip
9. Gary White - Sarsfields
10. Cathal McNally - Johnstownbridge
11. Eoghan O'Flaherty - Carbury
12. Seán Hurley - Johnstownbridge
13. Paddy Brophy - Celbridge
14. Tomás O'Connor - Clane
15. Darroch Mulhall - Athy
We look really short of options among the backs at the moment.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2014, 02:33:56 PM
Kildare unchanged:
1. Shane Connolly - St Laurence's
2. Mick O'Grady - Celbridge
3. Mick Foley - Athy
4. Hugh McGrillen - Celbridge
5. Kevin Murnaghan - Moorefield
6. Fergal Conway - Celbridge
7. Paul Cribbin - Johnstownbridge
8. Tommy Moolick - Leixlip
9. Gary White - Sarsfields
10. Cathal McNally - Johnstownbridge
11. Eoghan O'Flaherty - Carbury
12. Seán Hurley - Johnstownbridge
13. Paddy Brophy - Celbridge
14. Tomás O'Connor - Clane
15. Darroch Mulhall - Athy
We look really short of options among the backs at the moment.
Any word on the injury front?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 07, 2014, 02:57:48 PM
Any word on the injury front?
Leper played in a challenge for Naas recently but I'm not sure if he's going to be anything more than an option off the bench given all his injury problems. Peter Kelly sounds like he's targeting the Derry match. Ollie Lyons has an ongoing hamstring issue. Probably for the best if they try to let that clear up before the summer. I haven't heard anything about Eoin Doyle.
Meh!
Dublin when playing to their ability are a class above all the rest. Nothing else needs to be said , only team that can stop Dublin retaining Sam Maguire is Dublin.
The Dubs will have to improve in defence if are to retain Sam Maguire. Kildare could have scored 4 or 5 goals tonight. Whats the latest on Ciaran Kilkenny? went off early with a knee injury and could be out for a while.
Agree with Larry, only the Dubs can beat the Dubs, if they are in the right frame of mind they are head and shoulders above everyone else. I wouldn't worry about their defence, they'll be fine once they are at full strength.
From looking at Kilkenny's knock I would say he'll be ok. It looked like a bang to a boney protrusion rather than a ligament type issue but you never can really tell until it's been assessed properly.
not that it had impact on result,but thought marty duffy had another disastrous outing. Thought he favored Dublin a lot in first half in 26th min Macauley went on a trademark run, lost possession to be fair was probably fouled, but then lashed out at first kildare player he saw, Duffy was maybe 10 yards away looking at it and choose to ignore it. was not sure what i was certain was I saw first go round, just looked at replay, one of many poor decisions, Not to state the obvious but he will cause major controversy before season is over.
He's just an awful ref Joe, bad tonight....bad every night.
Jason Ryan should get a court injunction to prevent Tomas O'Connor setting foot inside a gym for the rest of the year.
It's coaching he needs, not another inch on his biceps.
Look at O'Gara for Dublin who has slimmed down, has more functional power and can now knock over 2/3 points a game.
This is a fella who was practically a laughing stock a few years ago such was his perceived lack of football ability.
O'Connor is not a scoring threat, and defenders are backing off without contesting possession knowing full well he has to lay it off to someone else.
That can still work as a tactic, as it did for Mulhall's goal, but as a strategy it is way too predictable.
Quote from: Zulu on March 08, 2014, 11:23:20 PM
He's just an awful ref Joe, bad tonight....bad every night.
Agreed, but is anybody truly monitoring ref's, maybe it is too much to expect from one person to cover a 170 x 90 yard field now that game has really quickened up.
Quote from: joemamas on March 08, 2014, 11:47:10 PM
Quote from: Zulu on March 08, 2014, 11:23:20 PM
He's just an awful ref Joe, bad tonight....bad every night.
Agreed, but is anybody truly monitoring ref's, maybe it is too much to expect from one person to cover a 170 x 90 yard field now that game has really quickened up.
I don't like criticising refs but they have to stop giving this guy big games. He ruins any game he is anywhere near. How he refs division 1 matches i do not know.
Donegal are good enough to beat the dubs, maybe cork & mayo too. Doesn't mean they will but they can. Tyrone also
I don't think mayo have the scoring power.
If donegal get back to where they were 2 years ago then maybe - murphy, mcfadden and mcbrearty as lethal as anyone.
Cork could be dark horses. Goulding, o'connor and the youngish guy hurley i think you call him ? Might challenge scoreboard. How solid defense in particular is is the big question. Midfield with walsh there should be ok.
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 09, 2014, 12:10:30 AM
I don't think mayo have the scoring power.
If donegal get back to where they were 2 years ago then maybe - murphy, mcfadden and mcbrearty as lethal as anyone.
Cork could be dark horses. Goulding, o'connor and the youngish guy hurley i think you call him ? Might challenge scoreboard. How solid defense in particular is is the big question. Midfield with walsh there should be ok.
Brian Hurley, U21 star from last year. Colm O Neill is also back too. C They have a lot more pace in the team now with the older players departing the scene and could do well this year. Ciaran Sheehan will obviously be a loss ,playing AFL.
Anticipated that the Dublin forwards would go to town on our defence and so it proved. Mick O'Grady was the only Kildare back who got the better of his opposite number. We badly need Kelly and Lyons back ASAP.
Dublin's pace is unreal. The speed and precision at which they can move the ball from one end of the field to the other is seriously impressive. Kildare just don't have anything like the same pace and quality that Dublin have throughout their team. We had a few players last night who could compete like O'Grady, Mulhall, Cribbin and O'Flaherty but we had many others who just looked lost at sea. Guys like Chalky, Foley and O'Neill are as game as a pebble but they are always going to really struggle for pace against this Dublin team on the fast sod at Croke Park.
Jason Ryan won't have learned anything new last night. Our forward line will do damage against most defences provided a good supply of ball. Midfield back is where the root of Kildare's problems lie and have done for the last 2 or 3 years. He needs to inject some pace into the backs and midfield in the hope that it improves matters. The return of Kelly and Lyons might help and Dan Flynn should be brought in around the middle.
Happy enough with that given the quality of player we're missing.
If I were Jason Ryan, I'd be working on a plan A & a Plan B - it's seemed to me for a while that they haven't had either for a while.
Kilkenny's cruciate is gone and is expected to be out for 6 months. Real blow for Dublin and the championship.
Quote from: Zulu on March 09, 2014, 03:25:50 PM
Kilkenny's cruciate is gone and is expected to be out for 6 months. Real blow for Dublin and the championship.
Sad news great player. Will miss rest off the year acc to twitter
Disappointing for him, good luck in his recovery.
Dublin have cover though
Lads up north hes not called part of Duffys circus for nothing!!