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Title: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: screenexile on January 24, 2014, 11:21:34 AM
Censorship alive and well in Newtownabbey . . . The DUP not exactly covering themselves in glory the last few weeks/months!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25860816

Newtownabbey theatre: Bible play cancelled after council row

A play that was due to open in the Theatre at the Mill in Newtownabbey, County Antrim, has been cancelled, following claims it was blasphemous.

The Bible: The Complete Word of God (Abridged) was due to open on Wednesday, 29 January, for two nights.

Some councillors had called for the show, presented by the Reduced Shakespeare Company, to be stopped.

A notice on the theatre's website said the show had been cancelled and apologised for any inconvenience.

There was heated discussion at Newtownabbey Council's policy and governance committee on Monday.
'Great regret'

It had been due for discussion at the council's monthly meeting next Monday when opponents were to make a final attempt to have the play pulled.

However, in a statement on Thursday, Newtownabbey Borough Council said: "The council's artistic board held an away day on Wednesday 22 January 2014, to plan and develop a strategy for the council's future arts programme.

"During the day, next week's performance of The Bible: The Complete Word of God (Abridged) was discussed by the board.

"Subsequently, the chair of the council's artistic board, Councillor Billy Webb, has written to the council's chief executive, to confirm that with great regret, the board has taken the decision to cancel next week's production.

"In taking this decision, the board wishes to confirm its commitment to deliver on the agreed council's artistic policy to deliver the highest quality performing arts programme, offering a diverse, socially relevant and enriching experience to as many citizens as possible."

Sinn Féin councillor Gerry O'Reilly described the decision to cancel the play as the "worse type of censorship".

"This is clearly an example of certain councillors forcing their religious views onto everyone else in the constituency," he said.

"What the councillors are basically saying is that they can dictate what type of dramas people can view."

NI21 leader Basil McCrea said: "This is a very regrettable decision - there are certain basic rights which modern western democracies guarantee for their citizens.

"One is freedom of religion and another is freedom of speech."
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: ziggysego on January 24, 2014, 03:33:02 PM
Everyone has stopped talking about Paisley....
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Orior on January 24, 2014, 04:11:08 PM
I wonder do those councillors see that there actions put them into the same category as the Taliban?

What is the difference between "you are not allowed to see that play" and "women must be covered from head to toe"?
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Shamrock Shore on January 24, 2014, 04:53:10 PM
Great to see the time machine has been invented in Norn Iron.

Major flaw is that it can only bring you back 300 years.

How we were embarrassed in 1975 over the 'banning' of the RTE production 'The Spike' cos one could see some flobby boobies behind opaque glass.
Sure glad we have moved on a bit down Mexico way.
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Rossfan on January 24, 2014, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 24, 2014, 11:21:34 AM
Censorship alive and well in Newtownabbey . . . The DUP not exactly covering themselves in glory the last few weeks/months!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25860816

- there are certain basic rights which modern western democracies guarantee for their citizens.

"One is freedom of religion and another is freedom of speech."

I'm afraid the North fails to meet those criteria. :-\
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: lawnseed on January 24, 2014, 07:58:44 PM
You get what you vote for. 11 out of 12 dup reps were against it. Theyll all get re-elected so this is newtownabbey this is what the people want
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 04:27:27 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 24, 2014, 07:58:44 PM
You get what you vote for. 11 out of 12 dup reps were against it. Theyll all get re-elected so this is newtownabbey this is what the people want

I'm living in the Newtownabbey borough and it's completely dominated by DUP/UUP, giving councilors the right to vote on such things is wrong, but with it being shown in a council run building then it gives them the greenorange  light to vote against it. I'd say none of them actually know what the play is about or seen it.

Would sicken your hole, I hope they find a venue that isn't run by the council and I'll attend it.
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2014, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 24, 2014, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 24, 2014, 11:21:34 AM
Censorship alive and well in Newtownabbey . . . The DUP not exactly covering themselves in glory the last few weeks/months!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25860816

- there are certain basic rights which modern western democracies guarantee for their citizens.

"One is freedom of religion and another is freedom of speech."

I'm afraid the North fails to meet those criteria. :-\

It meets the western bit...

The DUP fail to see the irony in their name.
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
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I'm living in the Newtownabbey borough and it's completely dominated by DUP/UUP, giving councilors the right to vote on such things is wrong, but with it being shown in a council run building then it gives them the greenorange  light to vote against it. I'd say none of them actually know what the play is about or seen it.

I blame the residents who don't vote.
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
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I'm living in the Newtownabbey borough and it's completely dominated by DUP/UUP, giving councilors the right to vote on such things is wrong, but with it being shown in a council run building then it gives them the greenorange  light to vote against it. I'd say none of them actually know what the play is about or seen it.

I blame the residents who don't vote.

Catholic: 22.6%
Protestant: 67.8%

That's the breakdown, so I'm not great with maths but......
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
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I'm living in the Newtownabbey borough and it's completely dominated by DUP/UUP, giving councilors the right to vote on such things is wrong, but with it being shown in a council run building then it gives them the greenorange  light to vote against it. I'd say none of them actually know what the play is about or seen it.

I blame the residents who don't vote.

Catholic: 22.6%
Protestant: 67.8%

That's the breakdown, so I'm not great with maths but......

What is required is some Protestants to vote for non Eejits, you might know some.
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:07:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
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I'm living in the Newtownabbey borough and it's completely dominated by DUP/UUP, giving councilors the right to vote on such things is wrong, but with it being shown in a council run building then it gives them the greenorange  light to vote against it. I'd say none of them actually know what the play is about or seen it.

I blame the residents who don't vote.

Catholic: 22.6%
Protestant: 67.8%

That's the breakdown, so I'm not great with maths but......

What is required is some Protestants to vote for non Eejits, you might know some.

Know plenty, they probably vote alliance though I never ask
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Eamonnca1 on January 27, 2014, 09:11:31 PM
Saw the play myself a couple of years ago. Great crack. If you watch the whole thing and see the whole context you'll see they're actually very respectful.
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 27, 2014, 09:11:31 PM
Saw the play myself a couple of years ago. Great crack. If you watch the whole thing and see the whole context you'll see they're actually very respectful.

Think I'll get a ticket, seems it may be getting a look in
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Eamonnca1 on January 27, 2014, 09:13:51 PM
They might have to run more performances now after all the attention it's gotten. Sure to be a sell-out after all this.
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: glens abu on January 27, 2014, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:07:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
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I'm living in the Newtownabbey borough and it's completely dominated by DUP/UUP, giving councilors the right to vote on such things is wrong, but with it being shown in a council run building then it gives them the greenorange  light to vote against it. I'd say none of them actually know what the play is about or seen it.

I blame the residents who don't vote.

Catholic: 22.6%
Protestant: 67.8%

That's the breakdown, so I'm not great with maths but......

What is required is some Protestants to vote for non Eejits, you might know some.

Know plenty, they probably vote alliance though I never ask

You should tell them that they should think again as it was Billy Webb of Alliance party who was the chair of the committee and he voted to have it banned.
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: glens abu on January 27, 2014, 09:40:09 PM
Just heard after a debate in Council tonight the decision to ban the play has been overturned. :o :o
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 10:05:45 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 27, 2014, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:07:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
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I'm living in the Newtownabbey borough and it's completely dominated by DUP/UUP, giving councilors the right to vote on such things is wrong, but with it being shown in a council run building then it gives them the greenorange  light to vote against it. I'd say none of them actually know what the play is about or seen it.

I blame the residents who don't vote.

Catholic: 22.6%
Protestant: 67.8%

That's the breakdown, so I'm not great with maths but......

What is required is some Protestants to vote for non Eejits, you might know some.

Know plenty, they probably vote alliance though I never ask

You should tell them that they should think again as it was Billy Webb of Alliance party who was the chair of the committee and he voted to have it banned.

Like I said, if they did vote... I wouldn't ask anyone who they vote, like asking someone how much money ya make.

Great to see it being overturned, stoneage politics. This place is nuts!!
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: Maguire01 on January 27, 2014, 10:08:28 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 27, 2014, 09:40:09 PM
Just heard after a debate in Council tonight the decision to ban the play has been overturned. :o :o
Strange one. Wonder what the numbers were. Heard at least one DUP councillor broke ranks.
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: glens abu on January 27, 2014, 10:09:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 10:05:45 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 27, 2014, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:07:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
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I'm living in the Newtownabbey borough and it's completely dominated by DUP/UUP, giving councilors the right to vote on such things is wrong, but with it being shown in a council run building then it gives them the greenorange  light to vote against it. I'd say none of them actually know what the play is about or seen it.

I blame the residents who don't vote.

Catholic: 22.6%
Protestant: 67.8%

That's the breakdown, so I'm not great with maths but......

What is required is some Protestants to vote for non Eejits, you might know some.

Know plenty, they probably vote alliance though I never ask

You should tell them that they should think again as it was Billy Webb of Alliance party who was the chair of the committee and he voted to have it banned.

Like I said, if they did vote... I wouldn't ask anyone who they vote, like asking someone how much money ya make.

Great to see it being overturned, stoneage politics. This place is nuts!!

Yeah great news and the website to book tickets has crashed,it will be a big sellout now.Dont be embarrassed to ask who they vote for I do it every night I am on a canvas ;)
Title: Re: Down With This Sort of Thing - Newtownabbey Style!
Post by: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 10:41:39 PM
Do Protestants know the joke about Moses coming down the mountain in his Triumph, or is that a bit risqué?