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Title: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on January 20, 2014, 07:53:55 PM
Just 12/13 days away, time to get this thread up and running. For us to progress we must get promoted this year but as ever this will be a real dogfight division & it won't surprise me if a unfancied side gain promotion, Wexford at 6/1 look good value.

Outright winner odds

Cavan (7/4), Roscommon (7/2), Wexford (6), Fermanagh (11), Sligo (12), Limerick (14), Longford (14) Offaly (16)

Relegation

Offaly (8/11), Longford (evens) Limerick (7/4), Fermanagh (15/8), Sligo (9/4), Wexford (5), Roscommon (6) Cavan (8/1)

Cavan - Fermanagh (H) Offaly (A) Wexford (A) Sligo (H) Longford (A) Roscommon (H) Limerick (A)

Fermanagh - Cavan (A) Sligo (H) Longford (A) Roscommon (H) Limerick (A) Wexford (H) Offaly (H)

Wexford -  Offaly (H) Roscommon (A) Cavan (H) Limerick (A) Sligo (H) Fermanagh (A) Longford (H)

Offaly - Wexford (A) Cavan (H) Sligo (A)Longford (H) Roscommon (A) Limerick (H) Fermanagh (A)

Sligo -  Limerick (H) Fermanagh (A) Offaly (H) Cavan (A) Wexford (A) Longford (H) Roscommon (A)

Limerick - Sligo (A) Longford (H) Roscommon (A) Wexford (H) Fermanagh (H) Offaly (A) Cavan (H)

Longford - Roscommon (H) Limerick (A) Fermanagh (H) Offaly (A) Cavan (H) Sligo (A) Wexford (A)

Roscommon - Longford (A) Wexford (H) Limerick (H) Fermanagh (A) Offaly (H) Cavan (A) Sligo (H)
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: larryin89 on January 20, 2014, 08:22:55 PM
Can only see Cavan causing Roscommon any problems here, Roscommon are not a div 3 team and will prove that this year. ( gawd I hat saying stuff like that)
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: From the Bunker on January 20, 2014, 09:01:49 PM
Have to say I'd expect Roscommon to get out of that group. 4 home games with Longford fermanagh and Cavan close treks. League is a strange animal all the same and you never know where you might lose points!
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 20, 2014, 10:17:09 PM
Cavan are shaping up well so far playing with a lot of new lads and looking fit and hungry. We should be good enough to beat Fermanagh first day but the next games away to Offaly and Wexford  who are two teams we always struggle against and both of them are away. Roscommon are a serious threat too and that game in Breffni could be a very important game. This Div 3 is a tough division and there are banana skins everywhere but I think we have the quality and self belief this year to get promotion.

Who will go down I wonder? Fermanagh and Sligo I think.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on January 20, 2014, 11:31:25 PM
I think this was brought before but I must admit I don't understand why we have 4 away games again this year and we are in the same division while other teams have 4 home games again e.g Roscommon.
I think we played Ross away last year too.  I does not make any sense to me.

I think we will do well to survive, we can't be throwing away six point leads to div 4 teams like we did yesterday and like we did last year v Meath.

Still, it was a nice change to actually have a 6 pt lead.

I would be interested in the opinions of the posters of how good some of the new players Pat introduced in the fbd are?  We need another good midfielder in my opinion to partner with kilcullen.

One of Sligo's biggest weaknesses is poor passes under pressure - hopefully Dr Flanagan has a tablet for that.  Looking forward to what seems to be a very strong division
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: SLIGONIAN on January 21, 2014, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on January 20, 2014, 11:31:25 PM
I think this was brought before but I must admit I don't understand why we have 4 away games again this year and we are in the same division while other teams have 4 home games again e.g Roscommon.
I think we played Ross away last year too.  I does not make any sense to me.

I think we will do well to survive, we can't be throwing away six point leads to div 4 teams like we did yesterday and like we did last year v Meath.

Still, it was a nice change to actually have a 6 pt lead.

I would be interested in the opinions of the posters of how good some of the new players Pat introduced in the fbd are?  We need another good midfielder in my opinion to partner with kilcullen.

One of Sligo's biggest weaknesses is poor passes under pressure - hopefully Dr Flanagan has a tablet for that.  Looking forward to what seems to be a very strong division
Honestly trying to be patient but yday was very frustrating whilst i have been at all 3 games its hard to know what to make of the players that are getting chances. People are applauding pat and i can see why if your not familiar with the players and your not going to the games, you'll think its great but for us to have to endure it, its not easy seeing slow players and out of your depth ones getting chances and you know whats coming, they'll eventually be shown up more.

im not going to name names or analyse us publicly. nice to have a 6 pt lead? man come on what good is that? if you don't win. i was at that meath game last yr and it was exact repeat 2nd half. ill send ya pm tomorrow on the details from my perspective but we have a lot of work to do on/off the field. I'm very mixed so far on everything, yes we can be brilliant but what good is that if you don't work hard all the time and repeating it is unforgivable.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Mano on January 21, 2014, 11:40:56 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on January 21, 2014, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on January 20, 2014, 11:31:25 PM
I think this was brought before but I must admit I don't understand why we have 4 away games again this year and we are in the same division while other teams have 4 home games again e.g Roscommon.
I think we played Ross away last year too.  I does not make any sense to me.

I think we will do well to survive, we can't be throwing away six point leads to div 4 teams like we did yesterday and like we did last year v Meath.

Still, it was a nice change to actually have a 6 pt lead.

I would be interested in the opinions of the posters of how good some of the new players Pat introduced in the fbd are?  We need another good midfielder in my opinion to partner with kilcullen.

One of Sligo's biggest weaknesses is poor passes under pressure - hopefully Dr Flanagan has a tablet for that.  Looking forward to what seems to be a very strong division
Honestly trying to be patient but yday was very frustrating whilst i have been at all 3 games its hard to know what to make of the players that are getting chances. People are applauding pat and i can see why if your not familiar with the players and your not going to the games, you'll think its great but for us to have to endure it, its not easy seeing slow players and out of your depth ones getting chances and you know whats coming, they'll eventually be shown up more.

im not going to name names or analyse us publicly. nice to have a 6 pt lead? man come on what good is that? if you don't win. i was at that meath game last yr and it was exact repeat 2nd half. ill send ya pm tomorrow on the details from my perspective but we have a lot of work to do on/off the field. I'm very mixed so far on everything, yes we can be brilliant but what good is that if you don't work hard all the time and repeating it is unforgivable.

Look at the positives we have finally got a new manager and County Board Chairman. Thankfully the embarrassing year we had last year has resulted in some change at the top level.

This is the time of year to try out new players if they are not good enough then they will be cut from the panel - every team throughout the country is fielding weakened teams - if we unearth 2/3 new players then it will be worth it.

There seems to be alot of players missing from last years panel - anyone know the story with these lads Taylor (sick), Gilmartin, McIntyre (injured), Brendan Egan (Vincents), Brian Egan, Brian Kennedy, Johnny Martyn, Brian Curran
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 21, 2014, 01:35:22 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on January 20, 2014, 11:31:25 PM
I think this was brought before but I must admit I don't understand why we have 4 away games again this year and we are in the same division while other teams have 4 home games again e.g Roscommon.
I think we played Ross away last year too.  I does not make any sense to me.

Somebody explained the reasoning behind it when the league fixtures came out. Not that I really got the logic behind it. We are in the same boat in Div 2. 4 away games again this year after 4 away last year. In a tight division having 4 away games (for the 2nd year in a row) could be the difference between staying up or not to some sides.

I guess if you have 4 home again though you're laughing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on January 21, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
A lot of our neighbours from other Divisions interloping here.
It's all to play for in this traditionally tightest of all the Divisions.
A good start is the key and hope we can start with 4 points from the 2 Feb games.
2 points we're still in with a chance but 2 defeats and Larry's prediction might come true -we'll get out of D3 by being relegated.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on January 21, 2014, 08:12:12 PM
Cavan have been confident going into the last two League Campaigns, 2012 we ended up being very lucky to stay up and last year we stumbled at the first hurdle v Antrim, got back on track and losing the Fermanagh game really ended our ambitions.

I do think this year will be different, unlike last year we have a settled spine of a team performing well. We have our best full back and full forward available. Keating and Dunne were big losses during last year's league. The team matured during the extended Championship run last year and they will believe that now is the time to make the step up.

The McKenna Cup and the League are world's apart though and in reality there is little separating ourselves, Wexford and Roscommon. Our fixture list is (once again) fairly awful with trips to Offaly and Wexford which won't help us. I do think promotion will be a struggle and we will hit bumps in the road during this campaign. If we can keep our key players fit with the possibility of Gearoid coming back to give us a lift for the final few games I think we will give it a good rattle.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on January 21, 2014, 08:39:22 PM
Think its between more then 3 teams, Longford have a very good record against Cavan both in Breffni and Pearse Park , and despite their poor showing last year in Division 2 I'm sure they will want to rectify that this year. Took a bad beating by Kildare in the O Byrne Cup but only had 2 regulars playing. Some good U21 forwards from this year/last year like Mark Hughes, Robbie Smith.

Limerick can be a match for any team and was surprising they remained in Division 4 as long as they did. Ian Ryan, Stephen Kelly, Johnny McCarthy , Ger Collins are all solid players.

Sligo were without David Kelly for the entire league and Championbship last year, as good as any forward in the Country on his day.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on January 21, 2014, 08:51:26 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 21, 2014, 08:39:22 PM
Think its between more then 3 teams, Longford have a very good record against Cavan both in Breffni and Pearse Park , and despite their poor showing last year in Division 2 I'm sure they will want to rectify that this year. Took a bad beating by Kildare in the O Byrne Cup but only had 2 regulars playing. Some good U21 forwards from this year/last year like Mark Hughes, Robbie Smith.

Limerick can be a match for any team and was surprising they remained in Division 4 as long as they did. Ian Ryan, Stephen Kelly, Johnny McCarthy , Ger Collins are all solid players.

Sligo were without David Kelly for the entire league and Championbship last year, as good as any forward in the Country on his day.

If Longford beat us they've every chance but a loss at home to start the league may meaning staying up is a more attainable goal than being promoted. Hard to know where Sligo land but with Pat Flanagan's late appointment it's though to see our neighbours being in the shake-up going into the final weekend.

Don't know what to make of Limerick. We delt with them down in the city last time we played them a few years ago and could be just as likely to get relegated as beat anyone of note.

Usual pattern of Division 3 is everyone scalping someone and the pre-season favourites looking in a little bother mid-league but recovering heading into the stretch. Hope that'd be enough for us to get promoted.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on January 22, 2014, 12:11:16 AM
I expect us to have a better league than last year. That would not be particularly difficult though. Hoping and praying for a good start. Colleges crap has really been a big impediment for Sligo this year coupled with the late managerial appointment. Unusually for Sligo we have a few lads involved in club semi finals which is a blow cos we need everybody.

I didn't see any FBD games but the feedback is not great. Still - we got the the final of it last year and look what happened after that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on January 26, 2014, 05:54:31 PM
The odds i posted above should change after that FBD result today. We remain so inconsistent anything could happen & until we sort out our defence we can forget about promotion.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on January 26, 2014, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 26, 2014, 05:54:31 PM
The odds i posted above should change after that FBD result today. We remain so inconsistent anything could happen & until we sort out our defence we can forget about promotion.

Because the other D3 counties playing this weekend looked so impressive?

What's with the obsession GAA supporters have with odds, anyways?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on January 26, 2014, 06:21:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 26, 2014, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 26, 2014, 05:54:31 PM
The odds i posted above should change after that FBD result today. We remain so inconsistent anything could happen & until we sort out our defence we can forget about promotion.

Because the other D3 counties playing this weekend looked so impressive?

What's with the obsession GAA supporters have with odds, anyways?

Because the odds are more or less how you are rated. Two years ago we were one of the favourites to get relegated have we really improved so much since? i guess we'll find out after this league campaign.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on January 26, 2014, 06:37:22 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 26, 2014, 06:21:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 26, 2014, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 26, 2014, 05:54:31 PM
The odds i posted above should change after that FBD result today. We remain so inconsistent anything could happen & until we sort out our defence we can forget about promotion.

Because the other D3 counties playing this weekend looked so impressive?

What's with the obsession GAA supporters have with odds, anyways?

Because the odds are more or less how you are rated. Two years ago we were one of the favourites to get relegated have we really improved so much since? i guess we'll find out after this league campaign.

We've improved plenty. Lots of good footballers with some experience at senior under their belts now. There's no excuses not to get it done this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 09:37:41 PM
Cavan 2/7 v Fermanagh 7/2. Draw is 8/1

Not much point turning up then so.
Cavan the new footballing superpower.
If we keep it under 15 then we will be doing well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2014, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 09:37:41 PM
Cavan 2/7 v Fermanagh 7/2. Draw is 8/1

Not much point turning up then so.
Cavan the new footballing superpower.
If we keep it under 15 then we will be doing well.

I'm sure if ye kick and drag and box enough you will keep it under 15. A good kick to a Cavan mans head like was done in the same game last year and it might even get you the win.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on January 27, 2014, 09:47:43 PM
Are those odds a surprise.  Fermanaghs Mckenna cup form was dire, but would expect it to be a close game. Promotion was probaly lost against Fermanagh last year and the cynical game plan, revenge would be nice.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 09:56:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2014, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 09:37:41 PM
Cavan 2/7 v Fermanagh 7/2. Draw is 8/1

Not much point turning up then so.
Cavan the new footballing superpower.
If we keep it under 15 then we will be doing well.

I'm sure if ye kick and drag and box enough you will keep it under 15. A good kick to a Cavan mans head like was done in the same game last year and it might even get you the win.

Myles you talking about Antony Forde again?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 09:58:03 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 27, 2014, 09:47:43 PM
Are those odds a surprise.  Fermanaghs Mckenna cup form was dire, but would expect it to be a close game. Promotion was probaly lost against Fermanagh last year and the cynical game plan, revenge would be nice.

Revenge? Do the two championship games last year not leave us owing you one?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2014, 10:01:25 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 09:56:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2014, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 09:37:41 PM
Cavan 2/7 v Fermanagh 7/2. Draw is 8/1

Not much point turning up then so.
Cavan the new footballing superpower.
If we keep it under 15 then we will be doing well.

I'm sure if ye kick and drag and box enough you will keep it under 15. A good kick to a Cavan mans head like was done in the same game last year and it might even get you the win.

Myles you talking about Antony Forde again?

Nope. Ye are lucky there was no TV cameras and a "weak as water" ref or one of your star men would have been enjoying a 12 month ban from football last year. I never witnessed such an act on a field before or since.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on January 27, 2014, 10:07:08 PM
Revenge from last year league defeat. Championship is played on hard ground where teams try to play football a different comparisson
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 27, 2014, 10:07:08 PM
Revenge from last year league defeat. Championship is played on hard ground where teams try to play football a different comparisson

You leave the two lads up front and then pack the defence. As cynical as most teams.
That I suppose is modern football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on January 27, 2014, 10:11:10 PM
If we have realistic expectations of playing Division 2 football next year we have to win this game. No excuses. Wonder which Fermanagh man will be sent out to try take Mackey out of the game for the 3rd time in 12 months?

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
Wonder are Paddy Power giving odds on when Forde gets sent to the stand again?
Cavan are jusy as cynical as most other teams.
Have you forgotten the punches thrown at Sean Quigley in the qualifier's?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on January 27, 2014, 10:21:03 PM
FermGael I doubt many teams could match Fermanagh last year for cynical play. Anyway hopefully its a football game this time, not rugby,
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2014, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
Wonder are Paddy Power giving odds on when Forde gets sent to the stand again?
Cavan are jusy as cynical as most other teams.
Have you forgotten the punches thrown at Sean Quigley in the qualifier's?

He was only sent to the stands once and it was against ye. Anyway, there was hardly a punch landed in that pile of handbags from either team last year. Hopefully Pete McGrath, being a good football man, will have ye concentrating on playing football like Cavan do instead of trying to foul your way to victory.  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: TomFun on January 28, 2014, 09:51:51 AM
Really looking forward to a football lesson from Cavan this weekend, I hope we learn from their pure expression of and artistic bent on the game of gaelic football. Who knows, if we are attentive enough we will get an insight into what it is to be a stylish winning team on the up and may somehow mend our terrible, evil ways.

After this wonderful opportunity to share a pitch with these football messiahs we can then begin our league campaign with the hope of a point here and there against lesser teams.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on January 28, 2014, 10:06:09 AM
I don't know why ye are being so smart. Fermanagh were tanked by Donegal and Leitrim before Christmass in challenge games, beaten by UUJ before the Mckenna Cup and lost by 5 to Louth last week aswell as losing 3 Mckenna Cup games. Cavan are not football messiahs but we should have enough for Fermanagh.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: TomFun on January 28, 2014, 10:18:50 AM
Thanks for the run down on the previous results. Maybe we shouldn't turn up then?

Look, only a fool would put money on Fermanagh to beat Cavan at this stage but try and remember a ball hasn't been kicked seriously this year yet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on January 28, 2014, 10:22:43 AM
I think ye should turn up, throwing in the towel before the league has started wouldn't be a great sign
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on January 28, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
There are 6 other team in this Division  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on January 28, 2014, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2014, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
Wonder are Paddy Power giving odds on when Forde gets sent to the stand again?
Cavan are jusy as cynical as most other teams.
Have you forgotten the punches thrown at Sean Quigley in the qualifier's?

He was only sent to the stands once and it was against ye. Anyway, there was hardly a punch landed in that pile of handbags from either team last year. Hopefully Pete McGrath, being a good football man, will have ye concentrating on playing football like Cavan do instead of trying to foul your way to victory.  ;)

Cavan were just as cynical as Fermanagh were last year.
They have a very good system based around Dunne and Keating.
Flood the defence, break at pace and Dunne and Keating provide the finishing touches.

Very young, inexperienced Fermanagh team will be playing on Saturday night.
I would not be surprised if we have 6 or 7 players making their national league debuts.
Pete has a huge rebuilding job on his hands and if we stay in division 3 then it will have been a good campaign.

By the way its Cavan gaels I feel sorry for.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on January 28, 2014, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: TomFun on January 28, 2014, 09:51:51 AM
Really looking forward to a football lesson from Cavan this weekend, I hope we learn from their pure expression of and artistic bent on the game of gaelic football. Who knows, if we are attentive enough we will get an insight into what it is to be a stylish winning team on the up and may somehow mend our terrible, evil ways.

After this wonderful opportunity to share a pitch with these football messiahs we can then begin our league campaign with the hope of a point here and there against lesser teams.

Agreed. Hope you enjoy the experience.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on January 28, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 28, 2014, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2014, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
Wonder are Paddy Power giving odds on when Forde gets sent to the stand again?
Cavan are jusy as cynical as most other teams.
Have you forgotten the punches thrown at Sean Quigley in the qualifier's?

He was only sent to the stands once and it was against ye. Anyway, there was hardly a punch landed in that pile of handbags from either team last year. Hopefully Pete McGrath, being a good football man, will have ye concentrating on playing football like Cavan do instead of trying to foul your way to victory.  ;)

Cavan were just as cynical as Fermanagh were last year.
They have a very good system based around Dunne and Keating.
Flood the defence, break at pace and Dunne and Keating provide the finishing touches.

Very young, inexperienced Fermanagh team will be playing on Saturday night.
I would not be surprised if we have 6 or 7 players making their national league debuts.
Pete has a huge rebuilding job on his hands and if we stay in division 3 then it will have been a good campaign.

By the way its Cavan gaels I feel sorry for.

I think Cavan Gaels will probably get what they deserve!
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on January 28, 2014, 07:58:13 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 28, 2014, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2014, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 27, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
Wonder are Paddy Power giving odds on when Forde gets sent to the stand again?
Cavan are jusy as cynical as most other teams.
Have you forgotten the punches thrown at Sean Quigley in the qualifier's?

He was only sent to the stands once and it was against ye. Anyway, there was hardly a punch landed in that pile of handbags from either team last year. Hopefully Pete McGrath, being a good football man, will have ye concentrating on playing football like Cavan do instead of trying to foul your way to victory.  ;)

Cavan were just as cynical as Fermanagh were last year.
They have a very good system based around Dunne and Keating.
Flood the defence, break at pace and Dunne and Keating provide the finishing touches.

Very young, inexperienced Fermanagh team will be playing on Saturday night.
I would not be surprised if we have 6 or 7 players making their national league debuts.
Pete has a huge rebuilding job on his hands and if we stay in division 3 then it will have been a good campaign.

By the way its Cavan gaels I feel sorry for.

Just as cynical as Fermanagh? I don't recall a Cavan player attempting to kick an opponent in the head. I don't recall a Cavan player going out to target a key opponent (Mackey taken out by Quigley in the league and first Championship game) I don't recall Terry naming a dummy side, sending them out to march in the parade and then make the switches in an attempt to confuse the opposition.

This game will be difficult but if you can't beat this Fermanagh side at home, you don't deserve to be promoted. Be interesting to see if Killian Brady & Hayes retain their places or will Killian Clarke come in.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2014, 08:23:23 PM
The Div 3 thread showing great promise already.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: panc56 on January 28, 2014, 08:32:32 PM
I can't understand all of this bravado from my Cavan friends. Favourites for the Division worth laying I'd say.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2014, 09:03:46 PM
Quote from: panc56 on January 28, 2014, 08:32:32 PM
I can't understand all of this bravado from my Cavan friends. Favourites for the Division worth laying I'd say.

Example of the Bravado please???
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2014, 08:23:23 PM
The Div 3 thread showing great promise already.

It has been a good one the last few years. The Meath crowd will be missed for the banter, especially with you Cavan bucks!.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2014, 08:23:23 PM
The Div 3 thread showing great promise already.

It has been a good one the last few years. The Meath crowd will be missed for the banter, especially with you Cavan bucks!.

I know, and the Mushroom men gone too it might be quieter but then you couldn't accuse them Ros boys of being quiet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 09:59:59 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2014, 08:23:23 PM
The Div 3 thread showing great promise already.

It has been a good one the last few years. The Meath crowd will be missed for the banter, especially with you Cavan bucks!.

I know, and the Mushroom men gone too it might be quieter but then you couldn't accuse them Ros boys of being quiet.

And with the Rossies in mind it's a pity the umbrella purchasers are gone too!!!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on January 29, 2014, 01:11:09 PM
Seamie Quigley out through injury and Sean has to serve a one match ban from the straight red he go in last years qualifier game.
Both have been our main scorers in the McKenna cup.  Mission impossible now.

QuoteI don't recall a Cavan player going out to target a key opponent

Westside, Sean Quigley and others were targeted numerous times in the first half of that qualifier game against Cavan. 



Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on January 29, 2014, 01:20:14 PM
You should watch a video of the league match from last year, Eugen Keating had his jersey ribbed off by McCluskey moments after coming on as a sub along with numerous other things that happened day. Cavan were rampant in the first half of that qualifier a bit of niggle at half time probaly followed on from the championship game in enniskillen
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on January 29, 2014, 01:28:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 29, 2014, 01:20:14 PM
You should watch a video of the league match from last yesr, Eugen Keating had his jersey ribbed off by McCluskey moments after coming on as a sub along with numerous other things that happened day. Cavan were rampant in the first half of that qualifie a bit of niggle at half time probaly followed on from the championship in enniskillen

Rodney that is fair enough.  I have no problem admitting last year that Fermanagh were very cynical.

But Cavan gave as good as they got. 

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on January 29, 2014, 01:40:53 PM
Quigleys are a huge loss for Fermanagh, destroyed Ballinagh last year in Ulster Club.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: AZOffaly on January 30, 2014, 01:23:26 PM
Lads, ye are all wasting yer time. Emmett has the lads raring for road, and I can see nothing only 8 Offaly victories and a stroll into Division 2.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on January 31, 2014, 10:05:28 AM
Fermanagh team named:

C Snow, J Woods, C Cullen, C Quigley, D McCusker, R McCluskey,T Daly, E Donnelly (capt), R O'Callaghan, L Cullen, R Jones, C Jones, P McCusker, B Cox, T Corrigan

Great to see the Cullen twins playing.  Represent Belnaleck.  One of the smallest clubs in Fermanagh and have been doing some great work at underage.  Have moved from playing Reserve football to now playing Intermediate football.  Great to see.

Very inexperienced team with 6 players making there national league debut.
That team must be one of the youngest teams Fermanagh have ever fielded.  Probably only Clucker, Woods, Donnelly, C Quigley and Snow over 25.  Baptism of fire for alot of those young players. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ExiledGael on January 31, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 31, 2014, 10:05:28 AM
Fermanagh team named:

C Snow, J Woods, C Cullen, C Quigley, D McCusker, R McCluskey,T Daly, E Donnelly (capt), R O'Callaghan, L Cullen, R Jones, C Jones, P McCusker, B Cox, T Corrigan

Great to see the Cullen twins playing.  Represent Belnaleck.  One of the smallest clubs in Fermanagh and have been doing some great work at underage.  Have moved from playing Reserve football to now playing Intermediate football.  Great to see.

Very inexperienced team with 6 players making there national league debut.
That team must be one of the youngest teams Fermanagh have ever fielded.  Probably only Clucker, Woods, Donnelly, C Quigley and Snow over 25.  Baptism of fire for alot of those young players.

No choice but to go with these young players, and I really hope they can step up a level, but it could be a long hard League. Fear the worst in Breffni Park tomorrow night. Cavan -6 at 10/11 looks too good to miss out on.
We lost to Cavan three times in the 2013 Championship when we were the strongest we could be and really well prepared. Now we are considerably weaker and Cavan still look to be on an upward curve. Think they will win Ulster in the next five years
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 31, 2014, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 31, 2014, 10:05:28 AM
Fermanagh team named:

C Snow, J Woods, C Cullen, C Quigley, D McCusker, R McCluskey,T Daly, E Donnelly (capt), R O'Callaghan, L Cullen, R Jones, C Jones, P McCusker, B Cox, T Corrigan

Great to see the Cullen twins playing.  Represent Belnaleck.  One of the smallest clubs in Fermanagh and have been doing some great work at underage.  Have moved from playing Reserve football to now playing Intermediate football.  Great to see.

Very inexperienced team with 6 players making there national league debut.
That team must be one of the youngest teams Fermanagh have ever fielded.  Probably only Clucker, Woods, Donnelly, C Quigley and Snow over 25.  Baptism of fire for alot of those young players.

Big change in the Fermanagh starting team this year, retirements and injuries?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Qwerty28 on January 31, 2014, 04:56:28 PM
Not much build up to the Shannonside classico....how are your boys fixed Syferus? Longford patchy enough in the O'Byrne and still missing a few so not sure what to expect. Suppose survival would be a success what with 4 away games so important to get off to a decent start Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on January 31, 2014, 06:24:09 PM
Quote from: Qwerty28 on January 31, 2014, 04:56:28 PM
Not much build up to the Shannonside classico....how are your boys fixed Syferus? Longford patchy enough in the O'Byrne and still missing a few so not sure what to expect. Suppose survival would be a success what with 4 away games so important to get off to a decent start Sunday.

Still unknown who is fit and who isn't - the three Donals (Shine, Ward and Smith), David Keenan, Ian Kilbride and Colin Compton have been on the blocks in recent weeks. Outside Keenan and Smith not being available for Sunday they're all up in the air. Mango's of course riden off into a well deserved sunset.

Team could be made public any minute now. Longford is the one we've been focused on since training began so it's time we put up or shut up about promotion. Panel's settled and have the benefit of better preparations this year. Still an incredibly young panel but they have mostly found their feet at senior. Don't be surprised if Senan starts on the bench.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on January 31, 2014, 09:52:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 31, 2014, 06:24:09 PM
. Don't be surprised if Senan starts on the bench.
After last Sunday's effort he'll be feckin lucky to even make the bench.
Goin by Evans' selections to date and taking account of various rumours ( from all sorts of unreliable sources) -
O'Malley, Collins- Carty -Stackeen, Seáine-2 Dalys, Micky Finn- C Shine,
Forwards in no particular order Keane,O'Gara,Cregg,Donie Shine I hope, Ciarán Murtagh and...... take your pick - possibly Enda Smith depending on Hastings Cup game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on January 31, 2014, 11:12:04 PM
Cavan team named. No real surprises although I wonder will the back line change on Sunday. Flanagan in for Tinnelly is only change from the team that bet Monaghan.

Conor Gilsenan; Joshua Hayes, Rory Dunne, Killian Brady; James McEnroe, Alan Clarke, Fergal Flanagan; David Givney, Turloc Mooney; Cian Mackey, Michael Lyng, Martin Reilly; Niall McDermott, Kevin Tierney, Eugene Keating
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on February 01, 2014, 10:58:03 AM
Terry won't make too many changes to a winning side, I think starting Flanagan is the right call though. Heavy pitch, dogfight of a game expected, he's made for evenings like that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on February 01, 2014, 11:29:58 AM
I'm going for 4 home wins...

Cavan vs Fermanagh
Longford vs Roscommon
Sligo vs Limerick
Wexford vs Offaly
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on February 01, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
Pitch inspection at breffni at 4pm. I see pairc esler is unplayable too
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: armaghniac on February 01, 2014, 03:16:38 PM
QuoteI see pairc esler is unplayable too

They don't call it the Marshes for nothing!
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on February 01, 2014, 04:21:21 PM
Cavan  match off. Back on at 2 tomorrow pending a pitch inspection in the morning.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on February 01, 2014, 09:15:54 PM
Pretty disappointed with the Sligo team named yesterday. I hope Limerick are weak.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 02, 2014, 09:10:05 AM
Twas all set to head to Longford today but events have conspired agin me so I will rely on Shiteside and maybe the odd text from the brother or Laureleye.

Not too often one can say that the first game in a League is a crucial one.........but this is certainly a crucial one for Longford as we are the pundits' choice for the trip south to Div 4. A good start will do wonders....a bad start could see the wheels fall off again like last year.

Safe travelling to all those heading and I hope it's a classic.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on February 02, 2014, 04:12:36 PM
Ros 0-13 Longford 0-10 FT.

Not even an army of Michael Duffys could have stopped us today.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on February 02, 2014, 04:33:29 PM
Great to get off to a winning start
It would be great to hear what the spectators have to say...

Big game v Fermanagh next week
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on February 02, 2014, 07:09:05 PM
Always good to get away win in this division but once again our performance was average at best, major improvement needed if we are to push for promotion this year. Determined display from a patched up Longford team today will be interesting to see how they fare once their key players return.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2014, 08:17:15 PM
Delighted to get out of Breffni today with the 2 points. Cavan started really well but had a strong breeze behind them. Givney was top at midfield and Keating was supreme at FF. All but one of cavans 10 points in the first half came from play while 3 out of four Fermanagh points were from frees. However Fermanagh werent for lying down and gave it a right go in the second half and cavan seemed unprepared for it. We looked cluless at times working it into our forwards and then started making silly decisions and bad passes. Almost every mistake was punished by a Fermanagh counter attack and score. There was only 2 points in it near the end with Fermanagh on top and Cavan looking to the bench for inspiration. Thankfully for us Fermanagh coughed up a really soft goal which Fergal Flanagan was happy to accept. I think the ernesiders will do damage in the league yet. For Terry, he has to have another look as a few lads didnt really contribute today and they will have to up their game and remember it isnt over till its over. Anyway we rarely win our first league game so at least that is done. Next up Offaly and I think we can do the business there too next week.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 02, 2014, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 02, 2014, 04:12:36 PM
Ros 0-13 Longford 0-10 FT.

Not even an army of Michael Duffys could have stopped us today.

Hey found ya Syf all the way down here in division 3.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on February 02, 2014, 09:23:24 PM
The problem for Cavan today was a fair few players thought the game was over at half time. Playing only average and winning is a good habit.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on February 02, 2014, 09:30:27 PM
Not that a good habit, when a better team then Fermanagh can take advantage and punish mistakes. Still good to get off the mark, should be a good tussle in Tullamore next week.

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on February 02, 2014, 09:50:11 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 02, 2014, 09:23:24 PM
The problem for Cavan today was a fair few players thought the game was over at half time. Playing only average and winning is a good habit.

You're some craic Itchy. 

Fermanagh put in a good display today.  Very young and inexperienced team today who recovered well after a very nervous start. If we would have had one of Sean or Seamie available i think we would have shaded it.
Cullen twins played really well and Clucker and Decky McCusker had great games.  Tomas Corrigan was excellent upfront and kicked some nice scores.
 
Eugene Keating was a class apart in the first half.  Some great points and gave our defence the run around.

In the second half we ran at the Cavan defence and showed how vulnerable their full back line is.
The goal was a killer blow.  We had the momentum and were only 2 points down.  Just goes to show that you should not mess about with the ball in front of your own goal.  At that stage Cavan were all over the place.  That mistake ended the contest.

Overall very encouraging.  Sean Quigley will be back from suspension for next week and a few others should be back from injury.  Great to see Eamonn Maguire back today.  Did enough in his 20 minute substitute appearance to get a start the next day.

Thought the referee had a good game and the Fermanagh black cards were warranted.  Although one thing i did notice ( especially in the first half) was Fermanagh and Cavan players jumping into the man after they had given a pass.  Obviously trying to get there opposite number black carded.  An unintended consequence of the new rules.

Best game of football i have seen between Cavan and Fermanagh in years.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on February 02, 2014, 10:26:15 PM
What I meant to say was it is a good habit to get into when you play below par you still grind out the win. I'm not trying to belittle fermanagh but clearly in the second half the game turned on its head. You might think that was solely down to Fermanagh upping their game and no doubt they did but I think a few cavan players got complacent too. Cavans full back line held up fairly well, most fermanaghs scores were from out the field so not sure what weaknesses Fermanagh found. Hope it acts as a reality check for Cavan, there will be no soft points in this league.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blue in hope on February 03, 2014, 03:01:28 PM
Cavan nearly threw it away yesterday. They were very dominant in first half and really should have had the game over at half time. Poor second half kept kicking balls in on top of Keating who had three men around him and the only other Cavan man inside the 21 was Tierney. I would be worried with if Keating had an off day where will the scores come from. I though Lyng did very well particularly in the second half where he showed for every ball coming out of the Cavan defence. He will be a good addition this year to the team. It was good to see a full back line and goalkeeper that looked solid throughout the game. Rory Dunne has been magnificent in all the games so far. He has picked up where he left off against Kerry last year.  Fermanagh will cause other teams in this group some problems.
One thing I noticed was while I think the advantage rule is a good thing the ref yesterday was very inconsistent implementing it. One Fermanagh player was doing a lot of fouling and Cavan were given the advantage but no sanction was taken against the player for persistent fouling which would have happened in the old rules.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: tommysmith on February 03, 2014, 06:12:46 PM
Was disappointed with management yesterday the game was slipping away and they were slow to make changes.  James McEnroe was out of the game for a good 10 minutes before he was taken off.

Good to start with a win but must improve if promotion is to be got.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
A win is a win. Last year Monaghan tanked Meath and the we tanked both Monaghan and Meath. Those 2 counties got promoted and Monaghan won ulster. Nothing is perfect this time of the year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on February 04, 2014, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 02, 2014, 09:10:05 AM
I hope it's a classic.
On a day when goals and points were being lorried all over the NFL we had a good oul low scoring effort between a Longford B team and a 20 minute Roscommon team.
We continued our new policy of absolutely dire first halves in which only our defenders made any effort to attack but not before 35 to 40 sideways and backwards hand passes were pawed around.
Good God but what would Harry Keegan think  :'( :'(
A combination of wides from Longford plus Duffy ignoring 2 penalties for Ros left it 7-4 for the Lars who'd had the wind at h/t.
We took off two of our non performers at h/t leaving about 7 more on the pitch.
In accordance with our current policy we put on a spurt , got level and then let the Lars take the lead again.
Senan Kilbride woke up following the introduction of the excellent Dara Donnelly, hit 3 great points in two minutes to put us back in the lead and despite a few hairy monents when we looked like leaking a goal or two we won handily outscoring the Lars 6-1 in the last 15 minutes.
Awful performance for the most part but 2 points gained.
However I won't put in for any holidays in late September just yet. ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on February 07, 2014, 07:12:40 PM
Has everyone forgotten the NFL already???
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on February 07, 2014, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 07, 2014, 07:12:40 PM
Has everyone forgotten the NFL already???

Deafening silence alright, maybe this division needs Antrim,Meath to return.

http://www.shannonside.ie/sport/roscommon-v-wexford-preview/ Gay talking sense again, why the GAA fixed club finals the same day as NFL fixtures remains a mystery.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on February 07, 2014, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 07, 2014, 07:12:40 PM
Has everyone forgotten the NFL already???

Sssh. We'll be promoted before people have a chance to get a good hand wringing in at this rate.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on February 07, 2014, 10:11:35 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 07, 2014, 07:57:34 PM
, why the GAA fixed club finals the same day as NFL fixtures remains a mystery.
The obvious thing was to fix the football finals for Saturday and the hurling on Sunday.
As for the Wexford game - we'll have to play for more than the last 15 minutes if we're to get anything out of this one.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on February 07, 2014, 10:12:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 07, 2014, 10:11:35 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 07, 2014, 07:57:34 PM
, why the GAA fixed club finals the same day as NFL fixtures remains a mystery.
The obvious thing was to fix the football finals for Saturday and the hurling on Sunday.
As for the Wexford game - we'll have to play for more than the last 15 minutes if we're to get anything out of this one.

The last 20, so? We don't want to go too crazy.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on February 08, 2014, 01:44:19 PM
I see have the same starting 15.  We need to play for more than 25 minutes per game.  Hopefully pat is getting used to our strengths and weaknesses mad knows what levers to pull and when to pull them.
We got hammered by Fermanagh last year but I think we can give them a run for their money today if we play hard for the whole game
Midfield will be key in my opinion
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2014, 07:10:23 PM
11 mins gone  Fermanagh 0-1 Sligo 0-1 
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ck on February 08, 2014, 07:14:10 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 08, 2014, 01:44:19 PM
I see have the same starting 15.  We need to play for more than 25 minutes per game.  Hopefully pat is getting used to our strengths and weaknesses mad knows what levers to pull and when to pull them.
We got hammered by Fermanagh last year but I think we can give them a run for their money today if we play hard for the whole game
Midfield will be key in my opinion

Agree strongly. New managers for both sides but Sligo on the up and Fermanagh on way down. Sligo by 5 or 6
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2014, 07:17:30 PM
18 mins gone Fermanagh 1-1 Sligo 0-2
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ck on February 08, 2014, 07:22:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 08, 2014, 07:17:30 PM
18 mins gone Fermanagh 1-1 Sligo 0-2

Anyone know an on-line radio station covering Sligo game?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2014, 07:28:43 PM
29 mins gone Fermanagh 2-2 Sligo 1-4
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2014, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: ck on February 08, 2014, 07:22:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 08, 2014, 07:17:30 PM
18 mins gone Fermanagh 1-1 Sligo 0-2

Anyone know an on-line radio station covering Sligo game?
OceanFM
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ck on February 08, 2014, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 08, 2014, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: ck on February 08, 2014, 07:22:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 08, 2014, 07:17:30 PM
18 mins gone Fermanagh 1-1 Sligo 0-2

Anyone know an on-line radio station covering Sligo game?
OceanFM

Can't get it on-line. No coverage options here in Dublin.
Can anyone tell me if Mark Breheny is playing?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2014, 07:36:30 PM
Half time  Fermanagh 2-3  Sligo 1-7
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2014, 08:30:01 PM
FT Fermanagh 2-13  Sligo 1-10, Sean Quigley the stand out player with 1-8. Sligo ended the game with 13 men.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on February 08, 2014, 10:24:33 PM
Based on the oxen fm commentary the ref was terrible and both sendings off we're poor decisions.  Don't know why pat did not make a move to combat quicken.  Best team won another game where we plane for only one half. Some players were very poor and were hardly mentioned.
Lot of work to do
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ck on February 08, 2014, 10:30:27 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 08, 2014, 10:24:33 PM
Based on the oxen fm commentary the ref was terrible and both sendings off we're poor decisions.  Don't know why pat did not make a move to combat quicken.  Best team won another game where we plane for only one half. Some players were very poor and were hardly mentioned.
Lot of work to do

Ah there's no doubt we're struggling. Fermanagh was a must win game. After tonight's disaster we could be looking at Div.4 if there's not a serious improvement.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on February 08, 2014, 11:31:13 PM
I spoke to a friend of mine on the way home from the game who had a different take on the sendings off. Relying on that Ocean FM commentary is not great.

We're in a bad place. A good few lads not really up to it and some of the more established (better) players not playing well. At leat we have the 2 points from the first game in the bag - we could easily have none.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: SLIGONIAN on February 08, 2014, 11:47:56 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 08, 2014, 10:24:33 PM
Based on the oxen fm commentary the ref was terrible and both sendings off we're poor decisions.  Don't know why pat did not make a move to combat quicken.  Best team won another game where we plane for only one half. Some players were very poor and were hardly mentioned.
Lot of work to do
I'll make this very simple, Kilcullen deserved to be sent off 100%, i was right beside it, he took a player out of it way after the ball was gone, he was on a yellow and knew exactly what he doing, it was like he wanted to be sent off, disgrace imo,

Cawley who was Sligo best defender by far, was very unlucky, several times he was the only Sligo defender to front up physically and block runs, fermanagh forward ran at him, cawley stayed strong fronted up and player went down, sent off, a free at most imo..

Lads don't let the 2 sending offs fool you either, were in big trouble and would of lost tonight with 15.

Also to say the ref wasn't that bad either for us beside the cawley sending off imo, not sure why ocean fm would be spouting that..
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 09, 2014, 07:49:27 AM
Listened to the game on Ocean. Who was the no. 23 for Fermanagh who went on? The 2 lads said Seamus Quigley was listed, but was dropped from the panel yesterday for playing soccer.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on February 09, 2014, 08:20:18 AM
I said it last week that I was impressed with Fermanagh. They were the first team so far this year that had Cavan panicking. They will take points of a lot if teams and I think they will finish nearer the top than the bottom. Sligo seems a real Jekyll and Hyde team, they could beat anyone on their day but often play well below their best. Tough game for us in Tullamore today, by all accounts we are missing up to 5 of last weeks team through injury. I'm fearful that Offaly will ambush us.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on February 09, 2014, 11:46:34 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 09, 2014, 08:20:18 AM
I said it last week that I was impressed with Fermanagh. They were the first team so far this year that had Cavan panicking. They will take points of a lot if teams and I think they will finish nearer the top than the bottom. Sligo seems a real Jekyll and Hyde team, they could beat anyone on their day but often play well below their best. Tough game for us in Tullamore today, by all accounts we are missing up to 5 of last weeks team through injury. I'm fearful that Offaly will ambush us.

It would be an incredible result if Offaly beat Cavan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: tommysmith on February 09, 2014, 12:06:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 09, 2014, 11:46:34 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 09, 2014, 08:20:18 AM
I said it last week that I was impressed with Fermanagh. They were the first team so far this year that had Cavan panicking. They will take points of a lot if teams and I think they will finish nearer the top than the bottom. Sligo seems a real Jekyll and Hyde team, they could beat anyone on their day but often play well below their best. Tough game for us in Tullamore today, by all accounts we are missing up to 5 of last weeks team through injury. I'm fearful that Offaly will ambush us.

It would be an incredible result if Offaly beat Cavan.

I don't think it would Cavan missing there Captain,two midfielders from last week and Mackey. 

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on February 09, 2014, 12:10:17 PM
Offaly put up a decent performance last week away too Wexford,  and with the injuries Cavan have it wouldn't be that incredible
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 09, 2014, 03:46:08 PM
We're fooked  >:(
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on February 09, 2014, 04:10:49 PM
Good win for us today. Great heart and work even if everything didn't always come off. All damage done in 1st quarter with Dunne and Keating putting on an exhibition in finishing. But Offaly were dire, they will struggle to stay up on that performance.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on February 09, 2014, 04:18:14 PM
Roscommon putting on a dominant display in a big game. Been a good few years since that happened.

If Donie's free-taking boots were on it would have easily been a 10 or 11 point win, such was the one-sided manner of the game. Apart from a ten minute patch in the first half Wexford never looked like bridging the gap on the scoreline that we opened up with a 1-04 to 0-01 start.

Donie put on a show in the middle, winning more high ball cleanly than I've seen in many years of watching Roscommon. He was nothing short of spectacular and his passing matched his catching, always looking for the pass whenever he had the ball in hand.

Senan ket rolling too, got the goal off a rebounded shot that hit the upright and worked others into the play well. Missed a couple of tough frees against the wind in the second half - Cregger was our best free-taker on the day!

Cregger was beating his man all day and looks strong as an ox. Scored a couple big points in the second half that extinguished any hopes Wexford had.

Higgins scored three points too, very good performance from him. Thought Cathal Shine was his usual efficient self, just a very good midfield performance where everyone, HFs and HBs, all contributed to us winning lots of breaking ball.

Backs cleaned out Wexford on multiple occasions. Apart from that ten minute patch they were rock solid, particularly in the second half against the wind. Seanie is Seanie, as always.

Enda Smith was impressive off the bench, two points from play including the first after Wexford's purple patch to settle us. Ciaran Murt came off with an injury late on.

We need to work on our frees but Jesus if we're not in pole position for promotion now. See it through, lads.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on February 09, 2014, 05:06:44 PM
Good win in what could turn out to be massive 2 points for us.

When you consider the quality of players we have that performance today should be more common from us, hopefully we can kick on now & get rid of our inconsistency.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2014, 08:04:35 PM
Long way to go yet Syferus ,try not to get too excited. We beat Offaly with out playing well for more than 20 mins today but Offaly were poor, not sure what there game plan was.

I think the first two weeks do show that Wexford are not, at least at this point, as good as we might expect. I still think Fermanagh will be dangerous to a lot of teams while Cavan and Roscommon in Breffni in the 2nd last game could be a game that could promote one of them. Glad of the 3 weeks break as we had 5 lads out injured today and hopefully they will be back then.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on February 09, 2014, 08:49:30 PM
Division 3
Pos.   Team   P   W   D   L   F   A   Pts.
1   Roscommon   2   2   0   0   1-29   1-19   4
2   Cavan   2   2   0   0   2-23   0-19   4
3   Fermanagh   2   1   0   1   2-24   2-22   2
4   Sligo   2   1   0   1   1-25   2-26   2
5   Limerick   2   1   0   1   2-24   0-26   2
6   Wexford   2   1   0   1   2-23   1-28   2
7   Longford   2   0   0   2   0-21   2-24   0
8   Offaly   2   0   0   2   0-20   2-25   0
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on February 09, 2014, 09:14:13 PM
Good win on Saturday night.  Pete seems to have found a couple of real gems after our retirement epidemic.
Would have been very fearful at the start of the year but would have alot of cause for optimism.
Sean Quigley had a stormer despite the sideshow that Seamie and Niall Cassidy provided.
We ran the ball when we had to but also made good use of the long ball.
Much more enjoyable to watch this year as well.

The 2nd sending off for Sligo was not even a foul. 
The first one was silly by the Sligo player so soon after getting a yellow card.
He left the referee with no option.
Good to get the win and Longford away next. 


Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on February 10, 2014, 10:11:22 PM
Great win for us yesterday and a decent performance with fast attacking football for 50 minutes. We had a 15 minute lull in the first half and a 5 minute  one in the second.
Senan stayed awake for most of the game while Cregg was excellent throughout. Of course it helped that the ball was going in fairly fast and fairly regularly for a pleasant change. Some great catching by Donie in midfield - pity about the freetaking though. Enda Smith had a great game for a gasúnín while we seem to have eliminated all the slow paced lads. Ciarán Murtagh again staked a claim to a permanent starting place and certainly makes it easier for Cregg and Senan to shine when he's dashing about the place.
Defence was excellent - except for a few occasions during the lull periods - but then again there were Wexford lads getting it too easy to start things from further out.
Top of the League, 4 points gathered in February. Job done so far but won't be getting carried away yet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross matt on February 12, 2014, 10:37:03 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 10, 2014, 10:11:22 PM
Great win for us yesterday and a decent performance with fast attacking football for 50 minutes. We had a 15 minute lull in the first half and a 5 minute  one in the second.
Senan stayed awake for most of the game while Cregg was excellent throughout. Of course it helped that the ball was going in fairly fast and fairly regularly for a pleasant change. Some great catching by Donie in midfield - pity about the freetaking though. Enda Smith had a great game for a gasúnín while we seem to have eliminated all the slow paced lads. Ciarán Murtagh again staked a claim to a permanent starting place and certainly makes it easier for Cregg and Senan to shine when he's dashing about the place.
Defence was excellent - except for a few occasions during the lull periods - but then again there were Wexford lads getting it too easy to start things from further out.
Top of the League, 4 points gathered in February. Job done so far but won't be getting carried away yet.
+1
Not getting carried away but at least there are signs of some consistency. Well done management!
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on February 24, 2014, 08:12:42 PM
Round 3 this Sunday. Already a venue change for our game.

Roscommon v Limerick - Kiltoom
Wexford v Cavan - New Ross
Longford v Fermanagh - Pearse park
Sligo v Offaly - Markievicz Park

All 2pm throw ins.

Seeing is believing is the new NFL tagline,  it certainly is in div 3  :P
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on February 24, 2014, 11:16:12 PM
A must win for us.  Hopefully the break has given pat the time to get them in shape and address the obvious weaknesses
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: AZOffaly on February 25, 2014, 10:24:11 AM
Agent Flanagan, you need to do us a favour here.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on February 25, 2014, 02:59:00 PM
One of our top forwards has left the panel. He has a health issue but is still playing for the U-21's (played last Sunday I hear). Not a word about it anywhere. Would that happen in any other county in the country?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: AZOffaly on February 25, 2014, 03:51:30 PM
Depends if he fell out with the manager. Is Pat training the U21s as well?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on February 25, 2014, 04:01:17 PM
Flanagan and co are in charge of the U-21's also.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
How come Longford are so poor this season?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on February 25, 2014, 07:56:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 25, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
How come Longford are so poor this season?

Lots of injuries.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blowitupref on February 25, 2014, 09:14:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 25, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
How come Longford are so poor this season?
Glen Ryan stepping down hasn't helped them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: neilthemac on February 25, 2014, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 25, 2014, 09:14:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 25, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
How come Longford are so poor this season?
Glen Ryan stepping down hasn't helped them.
Big changes in their other backroom positions too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on February 25, 2014, 09:31:08 PM
They have been without Kavanagh, Paul Barden, Shane Mulligan, Michael Quinn missed the first game, plus u21 championship started last week so those players wouldn't have been involved,
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Billys Boots on February 26, 2014, 08:51:43 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 25, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
How come Longford are so poor this season?

We're saving ourselves ... for next year's Bihatimber. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on February 28, 2014, 07:21:40 PM
Everybody forgetting about this most exciting of Divisions.
Could be a tough one for us but hopefully the lads will do the business and continue the march to hopefully Croker and Promotion.
Team probably - Darren, Collins/Carty/Seanie, Cafferky/Niall D/ Stack, Cathal S/Higgins, Enda Smith/Donie S/Conor D, Senan/Cregg /O'Gara.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ck on March 01, 2014, 11:09:20 AM
That's a damn strong Rossies side!
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 01, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 28, 2014, 07:21:40 PM
Everybody forgetting about this most exciting of Divisions.
Could be a tough one for us but hopefully the lads will do the business and continue the march to hopefully Croker and Promotion.
Team probably - Darren, Collins/Carty/Seanie, Cafferky/Niall D/ Stack, Cathal S/Higgins, Enda Smith/Donie S/Conor D, Senan/Cregg /O'Gara.

Dunno why we'd be starting Stackie for his first competitive match at wing-back when he's a natural corner-back and we have Ian Kilbride available again. Did have a couple runs for Brigids at HF but that'd be a strange call. If Evans was desperate to make room he could just move Seanie to the wing and slot Stack in behind him. More likely Keenan and Stack will be first line subs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
Real tough game for us today. Seems we will definitely be without Keating and possibly Rory Dunne, two of our best performers this year so far. I imagine we will not have access to the u21s either. Thankfully Mackey and Givney are back. Still think we can do it if we play to our potential. Ros should win easy enough, Fermanagh should beat Longford and I fancy a Sligo win too against Offaly
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: tommysmith on March 02, 2014, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
Real tough game for us today. Seems we will definitely be without Keating and possibly Rory Dunne, two of our best performers this year so far. I imagine we will not have access to the u21s either. Thankfully Mackey and Givney are back. Still think we can do it if we play to our potential. Ros should win easy enough, Fermanagh should beat Longford and I fancy a Sligo win too against Offaly

If Cavan want to win today they will have whatever players Hyland wants on that pitch.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 02, 2014, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
Real tough game for us today. Seems we will definitely be without Keating and possibly Rory Dunne, two of our best performers this year so far. I imagine we will not have access to the u21s either. Thankfully Mackey and Givney are back. Still think we can do it if we play to our potential. Ros should win easy enough, Fermanagh should beat Longford and I fancy a Sligo win too against Offaly

If Cavan want to win today they will have whatever players Hyland wants on that pitch.

Even injured players?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: tommysmith on March 02, 2014, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 02, 2014, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
Real tough game for us today. Seems we will definitely be without Keating and possibly Rory Dunne, two of our best performers this year so far. I imagine we will not have access to the u21s either. Thankfully Mackey and Givney are back. Still think we can do it if we play to our potential. Ros should win easy enough, Fermanagh should beat Longford and I fancy a Sligo win too against Offaly

If Cavan want to win today they will have whatever players Hyland wants on that pitch.

Even injured players?

Why would he want to play injured players?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 02, 2014, 12:15:12 PM
Tommy what are you talking about?...

Very tough for Cavan today, looks like we'll be without first choice full back, center back, one first choice midfielder, centre forward (Lyng arguably first choice on the 40) and full forward. If we could cope with that and go to Wexford and get a win it would be massive for us.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 12:48:03 PM
The groundsman on hoganstand has this as the team..
Gilsenan
Hayes
Mcloughlin
F Flanagan
McEnroe
D O Reilly
Argue
McKiernan (gearoid or Declan I don't know)
Argue
K Brady
M Reilly
Givney
Dunne
Mackey

If that's right it'll be interesting to see who stays inside at ff and who comes out.

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: tommysmith on March 02, 2014, 01:09:30 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 02, 2014, 12:15:12 PM
Tommy what are you talking about?...

What are you on about?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 02, 2014, 01:13:49 PM
I'd imagine it will almost certainly be Givney inside with Argue and Gearoid McKiernan at midfield. That's a very young side but even though we're missing a few lads down the middle it still looks relatively strong on paper. Only Mackey and Martin Reilly over 23/24 years of age. Massive game for us, best of luck to the lads.

Tommy you said "If Cavan want to win today they will have whatever players Hyland wants on that pitch" What did you mean by that? Obviously he'd want Keating and Clarke out there but he cant.. Did you mean the U21s?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 01:26:11 PM
Yup gearoid us starting, I hope he is ready, great to see him get a start. Killian gunner named at midfield but as you say westside it'll surely by argue or givney in there.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on March 02, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 02, 2014, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
Real tough game for us today. Seems we will definitely be without Keating and possibly Rory Dunne, two of our best performers this year so far. I imagine we will not have access to the u21s either. Thankfully Mackey and Givney are back. Still think we can do it if we play to our potential. Ros should win easy enough, Fermanagh should beat Longford and I fancy a Sligo win too against Offaly

If Cavan want to win today they will have whatever players Hyland wants on that pitch.

Its an important game, and as you know playing higher level is the only was of bringing on the young players. The amount of injuries led to starting the u21s, Clarke and Argue. Will be needed for this game as they wont be featuring next week, with the u21s playing on the 12th

Capable of beating Wexford. A few sloppy goals was the difference in 2012 in Wexford when they had arguably a stronger team with Red Barry, Lee Chin playing. Barry has retired and Chin playing Hurling this year.
They are a team in decline.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: tommysmith on March 02, 2014, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 02, 2014, 01:13:49 PM
I'd imagine it will almost certainly be Givney inside with Argue and Gearoid McKiernan at midfield. That's a very young side but even though we're missing a few lads down the middle it still looks relatively strong on paper. Only Mackey and Martin Reilly over 23/24 years of age. Massive game for us, best of luck to the lads.

Tommy you said "If Cavan want to win today they will have whatever players Hyland wants on that pitch" What did you mean by that? Obviously he'd want Keating and Clarke out there but he cant.. Did you mean the U21s?

Of course he wouldn't want Keating or Clarke what use would they be and them injured.

This wrapping up U21's in cotton wool must stop if we want of the Div 3.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 01:46:53 PM
I see a tweet there from the official Co Board account, its a bit blurry the picture but it looks like no Givney and instead Alan Clarke is playing. Could be a tough evening for us.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 01:53:06 PM
Actually looking again it looks like Givney is in MF and Gearoid isnt playing. Lyng not playing for Wexford either. I'll have to wait for confirmation from Northern Sound today, I believe Tynan is not doing the matches any more so perhaps I might find out within the first half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 02, 2014, 01:58:53 PM
Myles I think that tweet shows Givney Midfield and Gearoid Corner forward. It's just the way the program was altered. Is the Celt doing a live blog?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 02:01:15 PM
I checked their website, doesn't seem like they are.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 02:06:11 PM
nice music on northern sound but no commentary on the match or Sunday sport as advertised. Why am I not surprised.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 02:15:58 PM
Connection resumed. Cavan 5-1 up after 15 mins
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 02:17:30 PM
Gearoid for his 1st of the season.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 02:28:55 PM
Cavan up 7 - 3. Ros hammering Limerick 11pts to 1. Fermanagh 6 ahead of Longford and Sligo up by 3 on Offaly.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
Half Times
Wexford 0-2 Cavan 0-8
Sligo 0-7 Offaly 0-7
Ros 1-14 Limerick 0-3
Longford 1-4 Fermanagh 3-6
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on March 02, 2014, 02:44:15 PM
Half time Sligo and Offaly level at 7.  We keep making silly mistakes, bad passes, losing posesssion in the tackle etc.

Tough second half, mcnamee is killing us so far.  Some of the new names are not pulling their weight at least in the first half.

We can't afford to lose this one.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 02, 2014, 02:48:55 PM
Cavan up by 5 at half time. It's a lot in bad conditions but we've had trouble keeping our foot on the gas in the second half of games this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 02, 2014, 02:48:55 PM
Cavan up by 5 at half time. It's a lot in bad conditions but we've had trouble keeping our foot on the gas in the second half of games this year.

Dead right. Time to stop that becoming a repeat characteristic in the 2nd half.... hopefully.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
Half Times
Wexford 0-2 Cavan 0-8
Sligo 0-7 Offaly 0-7
Ros 1-14 Limerick 0-3
Longford 1-4 Fermanagh 3-6

Longford score is incorrect, Fermanagh lead by 1 after 14 mins of second half.

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
Half Times
Wexford 0-2 Cavan 0-8
Sligo 0-7 Offaly 0-7
Ros 1-14 Limerick 0-3
Longford 1-4 Fermanagh 3-6

Longford score is incorrect, Fermanagh lead by 1 after 14 mins of second half.

Apologies - I took it off twitter.

Cavan 12 - 4 up, looking good for a very important 2 points.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on March 02, 2014, 03:22:51 PM
Sligo ahead by 8. Coen got a black card but played brilliantly when he came on.  Pat has made the right substitutions and coen, Kelly and brehony were cutting Offaly apart.  We should win now.....
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 03:23:36 PM
Longford lead by 3, Ros :) and Cavan in pole position to go up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 03:30:15 PM
Rossies by 11, foot off pedal in second half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 03:34:32 PM
Great win for cavan 13 to 6. Would have put that down as the trickiest match when the draw was made so delighted to get the 2 points and keep the 100% record going.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 03:35:30 PM
Longford bt 1.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 03:23:36 PM
Longford lead by 3, Ros :) and Cavan in pole position to go up.

Don't forget Sligo. If you are level with a team it goes on head to head so if Sligo bet either Cavan or Ros that would change things. We have Sligo next Sunday in Breffni.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 03:41:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 03:23:36 PM
Longford lead by 3, Ros :) and Cavan in pole position to go up.

Don't forget Sligo. If you are level with a team it goes on head to head so if Sligo bet either Cavan or Ros that would change things. We have Sligo next Sunday in Breffni.

Sligo have  won against the poor teams in the league so far. Yet to play Wex, Ros,  and Cavan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 02, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
Fantastic win for Cavan with key players out injured. Hopefully Argue and Clarke came through the game uninjured. Good to see Gearoid getting in a good 60 minutes and Mooney returning from injury. Sligo at home next Sunday, we won't have Argue and Killian Clarke available so hopefully we will have some of Alan Clarke, Keating and Rory Dunne back. Looking very good for us at this stage but still a long way to go. After Sligo's win today they can leapfrog us if they beat us.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mrdeeds on March 02, 2014, 03:44:55 PM
Good win for Cavan and great to see Ronan Flanagan back playing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 03:45:53 PM
Great stuff Cavan. Its a long time since we won down there. Great to see GMc, mark McKeever and Ronan Flanagan back in the thick of it. Our U21s are gone with the seniors now so we'll need them lads in to keep the standards up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on March 02, 2014, 03:48:08 PM
We will have to work very hard to get anything out of the Cavan game.  Having said that, when we play smart football we can match any team, the problem we have is we only play in spells and then revert back to the stupid bad passes, losing posesssion etc..
Great to see Brian curran back who had a massive game at chb and was givem motm by ocean fm.

Offaly played poorly today, I think they are better than they showed and mcnamee is class.  They need to get some points soon if they have any chance of staying up.

We only won by three in the end Offaly penalty in extra time, but there again we were up by eight and fell asleep- this is something we need to fix.

Happy to have the points in the bag, this was a very important win for us as we still have to play Wexford, Cavan and Ross away
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 02, 2014, 04:02:46 PM
Cregger, you are a bearded magician.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: larryin89 on March 02, 2014, 04:09:11 PM
Roscommon Connacht champions elect.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 03:41:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 03:23:36 PM
Longford lead by 3, Ros :) and Cavan in pole position to go up.

Don't forget Sligo. If you are level with a team it goes on head to head so if Sligo bet either Cavan or Ros that would change things. We have Sligo next Sunday in Breffni.

Sligo have  won against the poor teams in the league so far. Yet to play Wex, Ros,  and Cavan.

I never take Sligo for granted. Last year we hammered Monaghan and Meath 2 games in a row and went to Sligo and needed a last minute goal to salvage a point. We will need to keep ourselves focused and not let complacency set in if we are to pick up the two points.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 02, 2014, 06:06:39 PM
Two comfortable back to back wins playing free flowing football TBH thats as rare as hen's teeth for us. Our starting team today must have been one of our youngest ever senior sides? Diarmuid Murtagh,Enda Smith still teenagers while both Dalys,Collins,Cafferky,C Shine all in their early 20s but for all the underage talent coming through you still need leaders and strong characters to drive them on and in Donie Shine,Senan Kilbride,Sean McDermott,Cathal Cregg etc we have experienced players that are leading by example.

Tricky away tie next weekend against Fermanagh we lost on our last two visits there. I wonder will we do a Cavan and rest the U21s?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 07:47:40 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 02, 2014, 06:06:39 PM
Two comfortable back to back wins playing free flowing football TBH thats as rare as hen's teeth for us. Our starting team today must have been one of our youngest ever senior sides? Diarmuid Murtagh,Enda Smith still teenagers while both Dalys,Collins,Cafferky,C Shine all in their early 20s but for all the underage talent coming through you still need leaders and strong characters to drive them on and in Donie Shine,Senan Kilbride,Sean McDermott,Cathal Cregg etc we have experienced players that are leading by example.

Tricky away tie next weekend against Fermanagh we lost on our last two visits there. I wonder will we do a Cavan and rest the U21s?

Can have all the underage talent in the world, these young lads need to be playing in Div 2 next year. So we should play them against Fermanagh and make the senior side the priority.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 02, 2014, 08:09:29 PM
Quote from: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 07:47:40 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 02, 2014, 06:06:39 PM
Two comfortable back to back wins playing free flowing football TBH thats as rare as hen's teeth for us. Our starting team today must have been one of our youngest ever senior sides? Diarmuid Murtagh,Enda Smith still teenagers while both Dalys,Collins,Cafferky,C Shine all in their early 20s but for all the underage talent coming through you still need leaders and strong characters to drive them on and in Donie Shine,Senan Kilbride,Sean McDermott,Cathal Cregg etc we have experienced players that are leading by example.

Tricky away tie next weekend against Fermanagh we lost on our last two visits there. I wonder will we do a Cavan and rest the U21s?

Can have all the underage talent in the world, these young lads need to be playing in Div 2 next year. So we should play them against Fermanagh and make the senior side the priority.

Not this year. U21 team is too good this year to be actively scuttling it. Enough quality overage players to give us every chance of being Fermanagh, at most Murt and the Smiths should only be on the bench. Dunno if Evans will be kind enough to oblige.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 02, 2014, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: Rudi on March 02, 2014, 07:47:40 PM
Can have all the underage talent in the world, these young lads need to be playing in Div 2 next year. So we should play them against Fermanagh and make the senior side the priority.
Whenever we get promoted we must make sure we are good enough to stay up & have the depth to be competitive at higher level.  Its a bit of of dilemma for Evans and co but with O'Gara,C Murtagh out injured he might decide to start Enda,Diarmuid again next Sunday. Donie Smith needs more minutes before U21 championship anyway.

Cavan on the same boat as ourselves, full of underage talent and need to be playing in Div 2 football next year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 08:53:04 PM
Is your u21 really that good. I know ye beat us in the Hastings final but we dominated the game and kicked over 20 wides plus we were missing quite a few. Perhaps ye were too? The game I. Breffni will be very interesting indeed.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on March 02, 2014, 09:05:17 PM
It wont be that interesting as both sides could be promoted by then
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 02, 2014, 09:23:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 08:53:04 PM
Is your u21 really that good. I know ye beat us in the Hastings final but we dominated the game and kicked over 20 wides plus we were missing quite a few. Perhaps ye were too? The game I. Breffni will be very interesting indeed.

We should have won the Connacht U21 final against Galway last year nine of that starting 15 are still underage this year & we have the pick of 2011,2012 Connacht minor winning teams. Yes we weren't as wasteful as Cavan in that hasting cup game but it should be noted we were missing up to 7 championship starters.

Saying all that we could be beaten in our opening U21 game as Mayo away is a tough one & they will love the underdog tag.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on March 02, 2014, 09:49:57 PM
A bit more encouraging but I'm afraid it has to be said that Offaly are simply terrible. McNamee's effortless scores kept them in it first half but once Ross bottled him up it was one way traffic - until we got two of our best defenders injured and started shipping water towards the end.

As mentioned earlier Brian Curran being back was simply huge for us. There was no procession through the middle like the last couple of days and his long deliveries into Kelly in particular were excellent. Kelly is back on form after two iffy performances prior to this. Looks a totally different player and back to somewhere near his best. So much of the gameplan rests on him working hard to get free. Other plusses include Ross Donovan back to form. He has this pattern in recent seasons of being a bit off colour in the first few league games but then gets back to being class. It looks to be continuing. Keelan Cawley (finally in his proper position) in particular and Charlie Harrison were both pretty good - the HB line dominated. Eoin McHugh again did well, was surprised to see him substituted though he has a lingering injury I believe. Worked hard and was physical.

There are lots of areas of concern though. All the above must be seen in the light of a really poor Offaly side (sorry Biffo's, gives me no joy to say it). I do get a feeling that Flanagan is beginning to make his own mark. Some good man management things I've heard in the last couple of days and improvements in some younger lads - well, there is probably cause for cautious optimism. Think we will struggle against the better teams in the league but one more win should keep us safe and I think we'll get that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 02, 2014, 11:52:34 PM
   
1   ROSCOMMON   3   3   0   0   56   35   6
2   CAVAN.             3   3   0   0      42   25   6
3   SLIGO                   3   2   1   0   46   47   4
4   FERMANAGH   3   1   2   0   47   46   2
5   LIMERICK           3   1   2   0   43   50   2
6   LONGFORD.        3   1   2   0   39   47   2
7   WEXFORD           3   1   2   0   35   44   2
8   OFFALY                   3   0   3   0   35   49   0
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 03, 2014, 12:58:44 AM
Roscommon making it rain at the right end for a change.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on March 03, 2014, 09:38:34 AM
I have no idea how we lost that.  9 points up after 30 minutes and Longford were all over the place.
BTW the Longford warmup was something you would expect to see in a reserve match and was one of the reasons they started so poorly.

We were on top in all sections and the 2 points seemed secure. The Quigleys were running riot.
An injury to a Longford player caused quite a delay ( well done to the referee for playing on there when players on both sides were signalling for attention from the sideline) and Fermanagh were never able to really get back into the game.  Our midfield went out of the game after the black card to O'Callaghan. Longford got a scrappy goal to cut the deficit to 4 and then pushed on in the second half. We did not score for 25 minutes of the second half.  We just could not win a ball in midfield or win a breaking ball.  Longford had a stranglehold.  We managed to raise it in the last 10 minutes.  Had a great chance for a score but the referee decided to award us a free instead of playing the advantage rule.  He was very frustrating and very inconsistent both ways.  Physicality is now obviously something that is outlawed in our game.

Massive game next weekend against Roscommon. We really need the 2 points or we will be right in the relegation mix.   


Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 04, 2014, 10:53:11 AM
Exhilariting stuff from our boys in the first half on Sunday.
Direct football, great pace, wonderful balls into the FF Line, great intelligent running/positioning and finishing from the said FF Line. All the kind of things that were totally absent from Ros Senior  teams in recent years.
Full Back line, midfield and all the forwards esp Cregg and Murtagh playing great stuff.
Mind you we still let Limerick in as we were far too easily opened up for at least 3 goal chances.
We still motored well for the first 10 mins of the 2nd half and I suppose it's hard to blame lads taking the foot off the pedal when you're 14 or 15 points up. Limerick came well into it after that helped by some very loose play by us in the middle third as we seemed to switch off in that "zone" but there was still never any danger of them getting near us.
A load of substitutions noticeably weakend the team and poor David O'Gara was very unfortunate injuring his hand after only a few minutes action.
Keenan needed to get that game under his belt and Stack needs more exposure at County level. Good to see donie Smith getting back into action too.
So far so good as we've improved 100% since the start of the season and hopefully we'll continue in that vein on Saturday as we face a tough oul trip.
I expect and am hearing that Evans will use the U21s as they improve the team with their pace, intelligence and football ability.
While we wouldn't say no to a U21 All Ireland ( would we what?) getting the Senior team to Div 2 is the priority.
Anyway who off the top of their heads can name the last 6 AI U21 Champions??
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 04, 2014, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 04, 2014, 10:53:11 AM
Exhilariting stuff from pour baoys in the first half on Sunday.
Direct football, great pace, wonderful balls into the FF Line, great intelligent running/positioning and finishing from the said FF Line. All the kind of things that were totally absent from Ros Senior  teams in recent years.
Full Back line, midfield and all the forwards esp Cregg and Murtagh playing great stuff.
Mind you we still let Limerick in as we were far too easily opened up for at least 3 goal chances.
We still motored well for the first 10 mins of the 2nd half and I suppose it's hard to blame lads taking the foot off the pedal when you're 14 or 15 points up. Limerick came well into it after that helped by some very loose play by us in the middle third as we seemed to switch off in that "zone" but there was still never any danger of them getting near us.
A load of substitutions noticeably weakend the team and poor David O'Gara was very unfortunate injuring his hand after only a few minutes action.
Keenan needed to get that game under his belt and Stack needs more exposure at County level. Good to see donie Smith getting back into action too.
So far so good as we've improved 100% since the start of the season and hopefully we'll continue in that vein on Saturday as we face a tough oul trip.
I expect and am hearing that Evans will use the U21s as they improve the team with their pace, intelligence and football ability.
While we wouldn't say no to a U21 All Ireland ( would we what?) getting the Senior team to Div 2 is the priority.
Anyway who off the top of their heads can name the last 6 AI U21 Champions??

Galway, Dublin x2 and Cork, Kerry x1.

U21 is incredibly important for senior.

The reason those young players are so good is because underage is so good. You don't get one without the other. U21 success is a priority this year too and even a Connacht U21 title would be remembered long after a good run of form in D3 is forgotten about.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 04, 2014, 02:02:57 PM
So if we don't do well at U21 and we do at Senior the U21 lads already good enough to be on the Senior team will suddenly become bad players??
Playing in Div 2 next year will bring them on a lot too me buicín.
Galway have won 4  U21 AIs in the last 10 or 12 years yet they've been much poorer at Senior than the team that preceded those U21s.
Let's be greedy and win both the U21 AI and the D3. :D
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 04, 2014, 05:15:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 04, 2014, 10:53:11 AM

I expect and am hearing that Evans will use the U21s as they improve the team with their pace, intelligence and football ability.
While we wouldn't say no to a U21 All Ireland ( would we what?) getting the Senior team to Div 2 is the priority.
Anyway who off the top of their heads can name the last 6 AI U21 Champions??
I'd say about 90% of GAA supporters should know the last 6 U21 AI winners. I wonder what % knows off the top of their heads the last 6 div 3 champions?

The U21s will be involved on Sunday as we are down to 26 fit players. Our injury list is mounting I Kilbride,D Ward,P Brogan,D Donnelly,M Finneran,C Murtagh,D O Gara are all probably out this weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 04, 2014, 05:17:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 04, 2014, 02:02:57 PM
So if we don't do well at U21 and we do at Senior the U21 lads already good enough to be on the Senior team will suddenly become bad players??
Playing in Div 2 next year will bring them on a lot too me buicín.
Galway have won 4  U21 AIs in the last 10 or 12 years yet they've been much poorer at Senior than the team that preceded those U21s.
Let's be greedy and win both the U21 AI and the D3. :D

The way to do that isn't to allow key U21 players like the Smiths, Conoreen and Murt get injured or be leaden legged for the Wednesday. Wardie will be back now the IABA Elite championship is over, Comp didn't even feature on Sunday and he's as good a young player as there is in the county. Dunno if Killer suffered a set-back because he wasn't on the 26 on Sunday. Plenty of depth in the panel right now, no need to run our kids into the ground.

Evans has done well so far this year but now's his chance to show his respect for the county and not just a blinkered approach with only a mind for the senior team. Doubt sense will prevail.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 04, 2014, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 04, 2014, 05:17:51 PM
The way to do that isn't to allow key U21 players like the Smiths, Conoreen and Murt get injured or be leaden legged for the Wednesday.
Evans has done well so far this year but now's his chance to show his respect for the county and not just a blinkered approach with only a mind for the senior team. Doubt sense will prevail.
I highly doubt he'll take your advice anyway gasúinín  ;D ;D
He's the Senior manager and it's the priority team so it gets first call on the best players.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 04, 2014, 05:43:26 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 04, 2014, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 04, 2014, 05:17:51 PM
The way to do that isn't to allow key U21 players like the Smiths, Conoreen and Murt get injured or be leaden legged for the Wednesday.
Evans has done well so far this year but now's his chance to show his respect for the county and not just a blinkered approach with only a mind for the senior team. Doubt sense will prevail.
I highly doubt he'll take your advice anyway gasúinín  ;D ;D
He's the Senior manager and it's the priority team so it gets first call on the best players.

Certainly not that way in the majority of successful underage counties. We of all counties know that what's been acceptable before isn't necessarily for the best.

Beat Mayo at U21 or beat Fermanagh in a non-critical away league game? I know which one is more important to most supporters. I think we can beat Fermanagh without the U21s.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 04, 2014, 06:54:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 04, 2014, 05:43:26 PM
Beat Mayo at U21 or beat Fermanagh in a non-critical away league game? I know which one is more important to most supporters.
The team isn't selected by popular vote y'eejitín. It's selected by Johneen Evans.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: larryin89 on March 05, 2014, 11:49:24 PM
Ooh sy don't be gettin your headeen in a spineen  a week before the big clash.

I know if you happen to lose your run on Mayo at this level , it will cause large scale depression in the county of stolen sheep and a free the weed td .

See ya in Castlebar buckeen .
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 06, 2014, 10:28:36 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 05, 2014, 11:49:24 PM
Ooh sy don't be gettin your headeen in a spineen  a week before the big clash.

I know if you happen to lose your run on Mayo at this level , it will cause large scale depression in the county of stolen sheep and a free the weed td .

I know it may upset you Lar but we've given up worrying  about or measuring ourselves on results against Chokerland.
Succesful Counties like Kerry/Cork/Dublin/Tyrone are now our benchmarks.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 06, 2014, 05:19:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 06, 2014, 10:28:36 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 05, 2014, 11:49:24 PM
Ooh sy don't be gettin your headeen in a spineen  a week before the big clash.

I know if you happen to lose your run on Mayo at this level , it will cause large scale depression in the county of stolen sheep and a free the weed td .

I know it may upset you Lar but we've given up worrying  about or measuring ourselves on results against Chokerland.
Succesful Counties like Kerry/Cork/Dublin/Tyrone are now our benchmarks.

And Cavan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 06, 2014, 11:16:43 PM
Round 4 squeaky bum time.

Fermanagh v Roscommon - i stand corrected we have lost on our last three visit to Enniskillen would be nice to get a long overdue win but a draw would be a decent result also.

Offaly v Longford - midland derby, Offaly have to win this game if they are to stay up while the larries must be on a high after that comeback win against Fermanagh.

Cavan v Sligo - three wins from 3 & at home will have Cavan hot favourites however its hard to know what Sligo team will turn up on the day.

Limerick v Wexford - judging by what i saw of both against us this game will be like two bald men fighting over a comb.

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: larryin89 on March 07, 2014, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 06, 2014, 10:28:36 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 05, 2014, 11:49:24 PM
Ooh sy don't be gettin your headeen in a spineen  a week before the big clash.

I know if you happen to lose your run on Mayo at this level , it will cause large scale depression in the county of stolen sheep and a free the weed td .

I know it may upset you Lar but we've given up worrying  about or measuring ourselves on results against Chokerland.
Succesful Counties like Kerry/Cork/Dublin/Tyrone are now our benchmarks.

That's the spirit, let's hope for your sake it's not another false dawn and 13 then becomes 14 , because it will really start to become scary when 18 year old Roscommon men can't ever remember beating Mayo in championship .
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 07, 2014, 02:18:57 PM
Cannot go to Tullamore this Sun but anything other than a win will keep us in the relegation mire.

O'Connor Park is another graveyard for Longford - like Portlaoise and Navan.
Well....I spose every ground in Leinster can be classed a graveyard for Longford  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 07, 2014, 02:23:24 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 07, 2014, 02:01:25 PM
, because it will really start to become scary when 18 year old Roscommon men can't ever remember beating Mayo in championship .
To borrow from what One greater than I once said -" Weep not for us but for ye'reselves and ye're children"
Anyway back on topic -haven't heard any word of a team yet.
This will be a tough one for us as Fermanagh are alleged to play with a packed defence so will be interesting to see how we cope. However our recent outbreak of quick direct ball to pacy mobile forwards is one way to overcome that and here's hoping we continue in that vein and don't go back to the Rugby League stuff we got mired in over the last few years.
Two points here and we can start booking an oul trip to Croker for the D3 Final.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 07, 2014, 05:18:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 07, 2014, 02:23:24 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 07, 2014, 02:01:25 PM
, because it will really start to become scary when 18 year old Roscommon men can't ever remember beating Mayo in championship .
To borrow from what One greater than I once said -" Weep not for us but for ye'reselves and ye're children"
Anyway back on topic -haven't heard any word of a team yet.
This will be a tough one for us as Fermanagh are alleged to play with a packed defence so will be interesting to see how we cope. However our recent outbreak of quick direct ball to pacy mobile forwards is one way to overcome that and here's hoping we continue in that vein and don't go back to the Rugby League stuff we got mired in over the last few years.
Two points here and we can start booking an oul trip to Croker for the D3 Final.

I wonder if we're over-egging Fermanagh in the same manner we over-egged Wexford and Limerick. If we're focused there's zero reason to be losing. The Duke in the People yesterday was buying into Evans' complacency-warding mantra of this being our 'most important league game in years' but the reality is the result of this game is unlikely to be make or break either way. It'd mean we have a chance to be heading to Breffni with the (likely) golden 10 points in the bag but there are other avenues to the same point and they involve games in the comforting surroundings of Lough Ree.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 07, 2014, 05:51:01 PM
The golden 10 points wouldn't have been enough to get us promoted last year & if we lose on Sunday Fermanagh will have the advantage on the head to head against us & with games against Limerick (A) Wexford (H) Offaly (H) that they should win.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 07, 2014, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 07, 2014, 05:51:01 PM
The golden 10 points wouldn't have been enough to get us promoted last year & if we lose on Sunday Fermanagh will have the advantage on the head to head against us & with games against Limerick (A) Wexford (H) Offaly (H) that they should win.

The team with one win in all of 2014 is likely to go on a four game winning streak? I'm glad you're optimistic about the northern boys but there's many more reasons to be optimistic about ourselves.

We've always had a problem with pumping our opponents with hot air, if we played Carlow we'd probably still be getting comments about the waiting in the long grass or that 'they're a very physical side'.

Fermanagh have regressed since God left and we've got a lot better since we last played them; that's the black and white of the situation.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on March 07, 2014, 07:03:14 PM
Fermanagh have arguably their best forward back on the panel since Canavan left, seamus quigley.
Dropped before the Chsmpionship in 2012  for discipline and didnt feature for the remainder of canavans reign. The ff line of Seamus and Sean Quigley is a handful and Thomas Corrigan. Eoin Donnelly is a quality player at midfield,  Ryan McCluskey at centre back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 07, 2014, 07:26:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 07, 2014, 06:23:32 PM
The team with one win in all of 2014 is likely to go on a four game winning streak? I'm glad you're optimistic about the northern boys but there's many more reasons to be optimistic about ourselves.

We've always had a problem with pumping our opponents with hot air, if we played Carlow we'd probably still be getting comments about the waiting in the long grass or that 'they're a very physical side'.

Y'amadáinín - it's called treating your opponents with the respect they deserve as footballers representing their County.
It's not as if we've been knocking around the top 4 or 6 or anything like that in years We've lost to Laythrum and stuttered past Longford within the last 6 weeks so just take your 14 year ould logic and put it in the attic with the rest of your toys.
Thankfully the management and players aren't as full of immature crap as you are.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 07, 2014, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 07, 2014, 06:23:32 PM
The team with one win in all of 2014 is likely to go on a four game winning streak? 

Yes look at us, this time last year we had only won one game yet went on to win our remaining three games.

Quote from: rodney trotter on March 07, 2014, 07:03:14 PM
Fermanagh have arguably their best forward back on the panel since Canavan left, seamus quigley.
Dropped before the Chsmpionship in 2012  for discipline and didnt feature for the remainder of canavans reign. The ff line of Seamus and Sean Quigley is a handful and Thomas Corrigan. Eoin Donnelly is a quality player at midfield,  Ryan McCluskey at centre back.

I think most know on their day Fermanagh at home are capable of beating any side in div 3, i think deep down Syferus must know the aren't Carlow.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 08, 2014, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 07, 2014, 07:03:14 PM
Fermanagh have arguably their best forward back on the panel since Canavan left, seamus quigley.
Dropped before the Chsmpionship in 2012  for discipline and didnt feature for the remainder of canavans reign. The ff line of Seamus and Sean Quigley is a handful and Thomas Corrigan. Eoin Donnelly is a quality player at midfield,  Ryan McCluskey at centre back.

I think we'll be ok with Soccer Seamus. Says a lot about where Fermanagh's management feel they are when they have to accommodate a player with no respect for their county.

Fermanagh named the other Quigley at 11, he's the one I'd worry about. Think experimenting with him out there could cost Fermanagh, all our HBs are good footballers and the only advantage he'll have is an inch or two in the air. Can do more damage closer to goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Lucifer on March 08, 2014, 11:52:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 08, 2014, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 07, 2014, 07:03:14 PM
Fermanagh have arguably their best forward back on the panel since Canavan left, seamus quigley.
Dropped before the Chsmpionship in 2012  for discipline and didnt feature for the remainder of canavans reign. The ff line of Seamus and Sean Quigley is a handful and Thomas Corrigan. Eoin Donnelly is a quality player at midfield,  Ryan McCluskey at centre back.

I think we'll be ok with Soccer Seamus. Says a lot about where Fermanagh's management feel they are when they have to accommodate a player with no respect for their county.

Fermanagh named the other Quigley at 11, he's the one I'd worry about. Think experimenting with him out there could cost Fermanagh, all our HBs are good footballers and the only advantage he'll have is an inch or two in the air. Can do more damage closer to goal.

It is highly unlikely that Sean will line out in the half forwards; Ryan Jones will probably move out.  Both of the Quigleys take equal watching, similar style and similar ability.

Whilst that is a nice soundbite re Soccer Seamus, the truth is that even the best managers and best teams often accommodate players.  McGrath has played his cards correctly in this instance, however we'll be lucky if it is his last misdemeanor.

We'll have about 7/8 changes from the team played last year against ye, and significantly it is experienced players being replaced by youth.  Apparently ye were open at times v Limerick, so I'm clinging to the hope we can stay in the game with goals.  I'd worry about Cregg and Kilbride inside, whilst we play with a sweeper we haven't been particularly defensive this year.  Daly will need cover to cope with Cregg, and we don't really have anyone in the FB line with the physicality to match Kilbride.  I'm expecting a high scoring loss, but hoping for a more defensive game plan and stealing 2 points with goals!
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 09, 2014, 12:39:19 AM
Quote from: Lucifer on March 08, 2014, 11:52:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 08, 2014, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 07, 2014, 07:03:14 PM
Fermanagh have arguably their best forward back on the panel since Canavan left, seamus quigley.
Dropped before the Chsmpionship in 2012  for discipline and didnt feature for the remainder of canavans reign. The ff line of Seamus and Sean Quigley is a handful and Thomas Corrigan. Eoin Donnelly is a quality player at midfield,  Ryan McCluskey at centre back.

I think we'll be ok with Soccer Seamus. Says a lot about where Fermanagh's management feel they are when they have to accommodate a player with no respect for their county.

Fermanagh named the other Quigley at 11, he's the one I'd worry about. Think experimenting with him out there could cost Fermanagh, all our HBs are good footballers and the only advantage he'll have is an inch or two in the air. Can do more damage closer to goal.

It is highly unlikely that Sean will line out in the half forwards; Ryan Jones will probably move out.  Both of the Quigleys take equal watching, similar style and similar ability.

Whilst that is a nice soundbite re Soccer Seamus, the truth is that even the best managers and best teams often accommodate players.  McGrath has played his cards correctly in this instance, however we'll be lucky if it is his last misdemeanor.

We'll have about 7/8 changes from the team played last year against ye, and significantly it is experienced players being replaced by youth.  Apparently ye were open at times v Limerick, so I'm clinging to the hope we can stay in the game with goals.  I'd worry about Cregg and Kilbride inside, whilst we play with a sweeper we haven't been particularly defensive this year.  Daly will need cover to cope with Cregg, and we don't really have anyone in the FB line with the physicality to match Kilbride.  I'm expecting a high scoring loss, but hoping for a more defensive game plan and stealing 2 points with goals!

I really don't think many counties would accommodate a player if they did what Quigley did even if they had a spotless record, which Quigley clearly does not. We had a championship starter dropped from the panel this year because he threw his jersey at the dressing room wall when he was told he was being subbed out, for example. Low standards seep into panels just as high standards hold players to account.

I really have zero respect for Quigley, what he did showed total disregard for the game and the honour of representing his county. I don't think much good can come from having a powder keg on your panel.

I'd clarify and say I expect the hardest fought game of the league so far - the Longford game was tight but we played half asleep for 40 minutes and after that it was one-way traffic - and that our recent record in Brewster means we shouldn't be taking Fermanagh lightly even if the form book of both teams only points to one result.

There will be less space and our forwards will have to deal with more frustration than they did in the last few games. Diarmuid Murtagh is a name outsiders mightn't know but that'll change soon enough, it could be up to him to get the big scores with so much attention focused on Kilbride and Cregg.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 09, 2014, 11:16:37 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 09, 2014, 12:39:19 AM


I really have zero respect for Quigley
I'd say the feeling would be mutual if he knew or cared about your existence.
C'mon Ros -this is where we either arrive or go back to the dross.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 09, 2014, 03:14:47 PM
Wild game in Brewster with neither team showing much interest in defence - Ros 2-13 Fermanagh 3-9 atm.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 09, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
Ros 3-17 Ferm 3-09 with six minutes left.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 09, 2014, 03:35:02 PM
Ended 3-17 to 4-10 to us. Fermanagh with a late goal. Luicifer's perdiction was totally on the money.

Defence took a holiday in Brewster today.

Almost home. We have to focus everything on picking up both points against Offaly now. Will take a lot of pressure off the Cabin trip.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: joemamas on March 09, 2014, 03:40:59 PM
rte have wrong ft score on their website
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 09, 2014, 03:42:22 PM
Cavan beat Sligo 1-12 to 0-10. Wasn't able to make it but listened on the radio. Sligo were extremely defensive and made life very hard for Cavan and their 2 man full forward line seems to have hit a purple patch both sides of half time. Indeed Sligo were 4 up at 9-5 15 mins into the 2nd half but Cavan upped the performance in the last quarter to score 1-7 to sligos 1 point. Great result considering our full back was on the bench (came on early for McLoughlin who was inured), Ctr back & captain still injured and no Keating or Givney and all U21's gone. 100% record intact and another tough game away to Longford next weekend which I think would seal promotion.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 09, 2014, 03:43:44 PM
Uncanny from Lucifer. Any chance of  the lotto numbers for the Euro Millions?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: tintin25 on March 09, 2014, 04:22:06 PM
You'd think 4-10 would be enough to win most games! Roscommon were sharper in attack and upped it when they went 5 behind in the 2nd half.  Still think Fermanagh can take some positives out if the game and think we'll do enough in the remaining games to avoid relegation.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on March 09, 2014, 04:25:52 PM
Hows division 3 looking?

Roscommon and Cavan must be near promoted.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 09, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
Ah jaysus was one of those silly non defending matches it reminded me our game against Wicklow in 2011 but hey we finally..... get a win in Enniskillen! hard earned as expected a huge 2 points gained, promotion in our own hands surely the lads won't fcuk up now?



Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on March 09, 2014, 08:36:42 PM
That was like watching two boxers going punch for punch with absolutely no defence.
We were 5 up after 15 minutes of the second half
By the 20th minute we were 1 down. 
We could not handle Shine and Cregg at all but your full back line was very poor under the high ball.
Seamie had them running scared.

The wee rugby tackle at the end shows exactly how the black card rule is flawed.
The standing ovation from the Roscommon supporters said it all.
Very enjoyable game though.

Massive game away to limerick up next.
A must win.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 09, 2014, 08:48:17 PM
Pretty poor Cavan display today, especially in the first half. Sligo were 4 ahead 10 minutes into the 2nd half and missed a lot of good chances which allowed us to tag on a few frees and get momentum again. Management made some good changes and we got a hold again around the middle. We played some great football for 10 minutes and got some lovely scores and a great goal, that buried the sligo challenge. Gearoid was massive, incredible considering him long he was out for. Mackey too was good. Very disappointed with Tierney, looks out of his depth. Dunne too was dire but got some nice scores at the end. Seems givney and Alan Clarke are out for a few more weeks and Keating doubtful for next week so the trip to Longford will be very difficult. A win there will mean certain promotion as we'd have the head to head against all rivals.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Qwerty28 on March 09, 2014, 09:42:48 PM
Looks like two promotion spots almost sown up between Cavan and Ros.....rte had wrong score on their website for Ferm Ros game, not for the first time they made a mistake in the scorelines and always bugs me they way the news always lists the winner first rather than who was home and away!

Good win for Longford, should hopefully stay up now with 4 points and nice booster ahead of championship to get one over Offaly, especially in O'Connor Park!

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: tintin25 on March 09, 2014, 09:50:25 PM
Thought Quigley was poor enough today, despite scoring two goals. Would need to sharpen the fitness come championship time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on March 10, 2014, 12:18:43 AM
Disappointed with the final score considering we were up 4 in the 2nd half.  Black cards were dodgy at best and the ref was very poor and made some crazy decisions for both teams.

We need a few more points, promotion chance is probably gone but we need a couple of more points to ensure we stay up.

Same story again today, patches of brilliant football followed by stupidity and laziness - losing the ball in the tackle, bad passes and losing focus.  Pat should know by now who is not performing and make the changes that are needed.
Fair play to Cavan, we had them scared and they responded and we fell asleep.

Very frustrating but some positives - Kelly motm and seems back and better than ever.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blue in hope on March 10, 2014, 09:30:14 AM
Blackcards for both Sligo men were correct. Donovan pulled down Fergal Flanagan  down off the ball as he was running up to support the forwards. Number 26 was black carded for a trip on Tinnelly when he intercepted the ball. I would agree with your thought that the ref was poor and very inconsistent. Players from both teams were frustrated with him.
Overall happy to see Cavan showing good character to turn a four point deficit to a five point win. They will have learnt  alot yesterday. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 10, 2014, 10:51:08 AM
Didn't make Tullamore but by all accounts Longford should have won by a country mile.

We missed at least three goal chances that were begging and our erstwhile goalkeeper was at fault for at least the goal ( decided to solo out the pitch and then got caught as happens quite often with him) and perhaps a few points. That said he is still in the black in his Longford account by my reckoning.

Good to see Paul Barden come on as a late sub so we may see more of him in possibly his final year as an inter county player.

The Da was happy with the win coming out but he was saddened at looking at a once proud Offaly side (he played for Offaly in Noo Yoik in the late 50s) playing such poor football in the second half. I cannot see anything but relegation for them. Who will join them?

Could we see Wexford in the basement? WTF has happened there?

Another win (home v Cavan and then away to Sligo and Wexford) will secure our status but it won't be easy as nobody is going to cough up easy points at this stage.

Cavan and Ros to go up
Offaly and Wexford to go down.

Louth and Meath to join the Div 3 party for 2015.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: LaurelEye on March 10, 2014, 06:41:56 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 10, 2014, 10:51:08 AM
Didn't make Tullamore but by all accounts Longford should have won by a country mile.

We missed at least three goal chances that were begging and our erstwhile goalkeeper was at fault for at least the goal ( decided to solo out the pitch and then got caught as happens quite often with him) and perhaps a few points.

He's not erstwhile yet, Shamrock.

Perhaps we could put one of these electronic collars on him that would emit a small electric shock once he goes more than a certain safe distance from the goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blowitupref on March 10, 2014, 06:51:47 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on March 10, 2014, 09:30:14 AM
Blackcards for both Sligo men were correct. Donovan pulled down Fergal Flanagan  down off the ball as he was running up to support the forwards. Number 26 was black carded for a trip on Tinnelly when he intercepted the ball. I would agree with your thought that the ref was poor and very inconsistent. Players from both teams were frustrated with him.
Overall happy to see Cavan showing good character to turn a four point deficit to a five point win. They will have learnt  alot yesterday.

Sligo must have been down to the bare bones in defence yesterday, Charlie Harrison and Keelan Cawley both out injured and that black card for Donovan arguably their best defender.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on March 10, 2014, 11:56:54 PM
Yeah we are short a lot of backs - you can add mcintyre and Egan to the missing as well.

Very big game for us v Wexford next week.  We could still get relegated or promoted at this point but the promotion chances are very slim
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on March 11, 2014, 10:44:16 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 10, 2014, 11:56:54 PM
Yeah we are short a lot of backs - you can add mcintyre and Egan to the missing as well.

Very big game for us v Wexford next week.  We could still get relegated or promoted at this point but the promotion chances are very slim

And Luke Bree. Should have Egan, Bree and McIntyre back for the last 2 games. Not sure on Keelan or Charlie with their injuries.

We haven't a prayer of getting promoted but I think we're impoving gradually and should manage to nab another win somewhere to keep us in Div 3 for another year. I hope we're not heading to Roscommon looking for it on the last day though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 11, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: ross4life on March 09, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
Ah jaysus was one of those silly non defending matches ..... a huge 2 points gained, promotion in our own hands surely the lads won't fcuk up now?
We managed to win despite doing our level best to fcuk up as you so eloquently put it. :D
We have some excellent forwards but Godhelpus Goalie, Backs and Midfield.... :-[
A lad built like a 10 pints a night darts player disintegrated our "nailed on 3 positions sorted out" full back line, our HB line was so open it was embarrassin while our midfielders seem to think their only role is to jump for the ball and if the others get it then you just hang about and wait for the next kick out. Higgins at least tried to get involved in going forward a few times.
Forwards esp Cregg,Donie and young Murtagh were absolutely wonderful when we hit the ball into them. We had 2 of these passages - in the first half we got 1-3 or so in a few minutes but then went back to sleep till the middle of the second half when we woke up at 1-9 to 3-8 and ran in 2-8 to 2 points in a purple patch.
Then dozed off again and it took a "Kavanagh" from Carty to stop it becoming a 1 point game. He should have got a black but instead the Ref gave him a second yellow. He gave the Fermanagh lad a yellow for his reaction and took the free off them as well. Seems players are of the opinion fouling is a total no no now??
Evans afterwards praised the lads' attitude and the way they came back but if they ALL defended whenever Fermanagh got the ball there would have been no need for comebacks.
Still promotion nearly secured but bejaysus have we some problems to iron out.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 11, 2014, 05:33:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 11, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: ross4life on March 09, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
Ah jaysus was one of those silly non defending matches ..... a huge 2 points gained, promotion in our own hands surely the lads won't fcuk up now?
We managed to win despite doing our level best to fcuk up as you so eloquently put it. :D
We have some excellent forwards but Godhelpus Goalie, Backs and Midfield.... :-[
A lad built like a 10 pints a night darts player disintegrated our "nailed on 3 positions sorted out" full back line, our HB line was so open it was embarrassin while our midfielders seem to think their only role is to jump for the ball and if the others get it then you just hang about and wait for the next kick out. Higgins at least tried to get involved in going forward a few times.
Forwards esp Cregg,Donie and young Murtagh were absolutely wonderful when we hit the ball into them. We had 2 of these passages - in the first half we got 1-3 or so in a few minutes but then went back to sleep till the middle of the second half when we woke up at 1-9 to 3-8 and ran in 2-8 to 2 points in a purple patch.
Then dozed off again and it took a "Kavanagh" from Carty to stop it becoming a 1 point game. He should have got a black but instead the Ref gave him a second yellow. He gave the Fermanagh lad a yellow for his reaction and took the free off them as well. Seems players are of the opinion fouling is a total no no now??
Evans afterwards praised the lads' attitude and the way they came back but if they ALL defended whenever Fermanagh got the ball there would have been no need for comebacks.
Still promotion nearly secured but bejaysus have we some problems to iron out.

Good summary rosfan. IMO we have plenty of decent defenders but at the moment they are just a group of individuals instead of one solid unit. Midfield i don't know, our best midfielder retired another one injured while Cathal Shine is still trying to find his feet at senior level, we need more pace,mobility in midfield & might have to wait another year or so for that. Forwards playing very well a fit Donie Shine has brought our average score up however we must remember its div 3 defences we are playing against.

I remember in 2007 we were one home win away from promotion and fcuked up against Leitrim they celebrated on the field like they won Connacht or something...
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: This Years Model on March 11, 2014, 05:41:28 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 10, 2014, 10:51:08 AM
Could we see Wexford in the basement? WTF has happened there?
We could indeed Shamrock. The loss of Forde a couple of years ago was a blow, but losing Colm Morris and Eric Bradley last year, David Murphy and especially Red Barry this year, is all proving a little too much to bear. Very much in a rebuilding phase, but I suspect the management expected to be rebuilding while in Div 3 not 4 ... still, every game is a Championship game from here on, so it'll be interesting to see what they're made of. Need 2 wins out of 3.
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Another win (home v Cavan and then away to Sligo and Wexford) will secure our status but it won't be easy as nobody is going to cough up easy points at this stage.

Cavan and Ros to go up
Offaly and Wexford to go down.

Louth and Meath to join the Div 3 party for 2015.
... And wouldn't it be kind of poetic if Longford got the chance to put us down, considering the suffering they've endured at the hands of the yellabellies over the last few years ...?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2014, 05:43:24 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 11, 2014, 05:33:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 11, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: ross4life on March 09, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
Ah jaysus was one of those silly non defending matches ..... a huge 2 points gained, promotion in our own hands surely the lads won't fcuk up now?
We managed to win despite doing our level best to fcuk up as you so eloquently put it. :D
We have some excellent forwards but Godhelpus Goalie, Backs and Midfield.... :-[
A lad built like a 10 pints a night darts player disintegrated our "nailed on 3 positions sorted out" full back line, our HB line was so open it was embarrassin while our midfielders seem to think their only role is to jump for the ball and if the others get it then you just hang about and wait for the next kick out. Higgins at least tried to get involved in going forward a few times.
Forwards esp Cregg,Donie and young Murtagh were absolutely wonderful when we hit the ball into them. We had 2 of these passages - in the first half we got 1-3 or so in a few minutes but then went back to sleep till the middle of the second half when we woke up at 1-9 to 3-8 and ran in 2-8 to 2 points in a purple patch.
Then dozed off again and it took a "Kavanagh" from Carty to stop it becoming a 1 point game. He should have got a black but instead the Ref gave him a second yellow. He gave the Fermanagh lad a yellow for his reaction and took the free off them as well. Seems players are of the opinion fouling is a total no no now??
Evans afterwards praised the lads' attitude and the way they came back but if they ALL defended whenever Fermanagh got the ball there would have been no need for comebacks.
Still promotion nearly secured but bejaysus have we some problems to iron out.

Good summary rosfan. IMO we have plenty of decent defenders but at the moment they are just a group of individuals instead of one solid unit. Midfield i don't know, our best midfielder retired another one injured while Cathal Shine is still trying to find his feet at senior level, we need more pace,mobility in midfield & might have to wait another year or so for that. Forwards playing very well a fit Donie Shine has brought our average score up however we must remember its div 3 defences we are playing against.

I remember in 2007 we were one home win away from promotion and fcuked up against Leitrim they celebrated on the field like they won Connacht or something...

Wouldn't it just be lovely if Johneen could convince Mango to lace up for one last summer when he joins the management team later in the year?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 11, 2014, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 11, 2014, 05:33:58 PM
I remember in 2007 we were one home win away from promotion and fcuked up against Leitrim they celebrated on the field like they won Connacht or something...
I remember it well  :-[
At 3.30 that day we were in D2 but by 4 o'clock it looked like D4 would be our lot. We went mad v the Biffs in Tullamore and got into D2 where we were a major embarrassment under the Tanned one.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: haranguerer on March 12, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 11, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
A lad built like a 10 pints a night darts player disintegrated our "nailed on 3 positions sorted out" full back line, our HB line was so open it was embarrassin while our midfielders seem to think their only role is to jump for the ball and if the others get it then you just hang about and wait for the next kick out. Higgins at least tried to get involved in going forward a few times.

You're just lucky he'd a brutal game
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Bojangles on March 12, 2014, 10:23:54 AM
Syf, I'm in agreement. Mango's guile and distruibution to an inside line that is currently on fire would give Ross a massive boost for the summer. John / Gay / whoever, make that call!...
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on March 13, 2014, 09:24:32 AM
Here we go again.......

http://www.impartialreporter.com/news/roundup/articles/2014/03/13/404317-uncertainty-surrounds-quigley-brothers/ (http://www.impartialreporter.com/news/roundup/articles/2014/03/13/404317-uncertainty-surrounds-quigley-brothers/)

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Uncertainty surrounds Quigley brothers

Published: 13 Mar 2014 07:40

There is uncertainty surrounding the future of the three Quigley brothers, Conor, Seamie and Sean with it rumoured that the Roslea men have left the Fermanagh squad ahead of this Sunday's league encounter against Limerick.

A disagreement with manager Pete McGrath is believed to have led to the trio walking out of training on Tuesday night and it casts doubt over their participation for the remainder of the campaign.

Conor was named vice-captain of the squad by McGrath at the start of the season while Sean and Seamie have provided the bulk of the scores to date in the league with Sean having notched 3-18.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: orangeman on March 13, 2014, 09:31:05 AM
Row out again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on March 13, 2014, 09:31:42 AM
Fermanagh would have to give up on the Quigleys at this stage, Seamus in particular,
amount of times he has left the Fermanagh panel http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEwQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.belfasttelegraph.co.uk%2Fsport%2Fgaa%2Fcanavan-in-dark-as-star-quigley-goes-awol-28761030.html&ei=UnohU_e-PIjNhAeh1YGYBA&usg=AFQjCNEQiNGI1y4g9uKfD8PH1gYsvhq-VQ
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2014, 10:19:22 AM
I said it here before, wasting your time with these lads. They will bring the whole team down. Take a leaf out of Cavans book. Sad to see lads with such disrespect for their county and a gentleman like Pete McGrath.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 13, 2014, 03:18:15 PM
Looking forward to the joust with Cavan.

Cavan have the form, being top of the League and all but Longford are going into this with two wins under the belt so anything can happen.

Will home advantage give Longford the edge. Hope so. It may be grim at times with Cavan playing 'Black Death' football  ;)  but hopefully the expected crowd of 2,000 will have a half daycent game to chew over after.

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on March 13, 2014, 04:10:40 PM
Longford have a good record against Cavan in breffni and in Pearse Park. Beat Cavan twice in 2012, league and the qualifiers, beat Cavan in 09 too in the league. The 2012 qualifier defeat was one Seanie Johnstons last game for Cavan.

Longford had a lot of injuries at the start of the league but have most of them lads back now and are finding a bit of form.Going well without the u21s.  Should be a close game, we owe Longford one
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 13, 2014, 04:26:48 PM
Near essential for our U21s that we end the promotion race against Offaly. Hopefully Wexford do us a solid in their game and we don't slip up against the neighbours, we'll be able to rest the U21s for the remaining two games.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on March 13, 2014, 10:04:50 PM
Fermanagh team v Limerick

C. Snow; J. Woods, C. Cullen, T. Daly; D. McCusker, R. McCluskey, T. McElroy; E. Donnelly, R. O'Callaghan; L. Cullen, R. Jones, P. McCusker; R. Ormsby, B. Cox, T. Corrigan

We are quigless



Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on March 14, 2014, 12:18:38 PM
Limerick is far enough away without it being brought to NewcastleWest.
Title: Amhrán
Post by: drici on March 14, 2014, 12:26:43 PM
Quote from: FermGael on March 14, 2014, 12:18:38 PM

Limerick is far enough away without it being brought to NewcastleWest.


Ah but now you can meet Kitty, Geraldine and Mary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtMrltrWck0
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Ultán on March 14, 2014, 12:29:50 PM
Lads esay to say get rid of the Quigleys but Seán and Connor have played for Fermanagh the last number of years with no issues. Everyone knows about Sheamus and the issues there have been with him. You can't just say get rid of the three of them because they are brothers. I would be interested to hear the full story.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on March 14, 2014, 12:46:14 PM
What age would Seamus be? He doesn't seem like a fella that will change. Sean was u21 last year so still young, 
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: cornafean on March 14, 2014, 02:13:33 PM
Quote from: FermGael on March 14, 2014, 12:18:38 PM
Limerick is far enough away without it being brought to NewcastleWest.

The way the city is bypassed nowadays you'd be in Newcastlewest nearly as quickly as the Gaelic Grounds anyway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 15, 2014, 09:31:13 AM
Couple of tight ones today.

Limerick v fermanagh. It will be close but I think Fermanagh to edge it.

Longford v Cavan. Keating is back for us so again a tight away win. Longford will be close in their own pitch and with a bit of momentum now.

Wexford v Sligo. Sligo to win by a few. Wexford have been brutal so far.

Roscommon v Offaly. Home banker. Offaly will do well to stay within 8 points.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on March 15, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
Would be very surprised if Fermanagh went to Limerick without the Quigleys and got 2pts
Would expect Wexford to raise their game at home to Sligo or they will be in a Relegation fight

Limerick
Cavan
Wexford
Roscommon

Who i would fancy to win tomorrow.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 15, 2014, 09:52:10 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 15, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
Would be very surprised if Fermanagh went to Limerick without the Quigleys and got 2pts
Would expect Wexford to raise their game at home to Sligo or they will be in a Relegation fight

Limerick
Cavan
Wexford
Roscommon

Who i would fancy to win tomorrow.

Fermanagh were Quigley-less against Cavan and easily have won.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on March 15, 2014, 10:09:48 AM
They played well, had the wind in the second half and faught back well against Cavan, but Cavan still won by 4. Game should have been over at half time , Mackey missed a great goal chance.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2014, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 15, 2014, 09:50:12 AM

Limerick
Cavan
Wexford
Roscommon

Who i would fancy to win tomorrow.
I think that would mean Ros and Cavan promoted if those predictions happen.
I suspect it would be the first time ever promotion was done and dusted with 2 games remaining.
However we won't count any chickens just yet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 15, 2014, 01:59:31 PM
We don't want to be going into the Roscommon game needing points. Huge game tomorrow this is our chance.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 15, 2014, 02:05:15 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 15, 2014, 01:59:31 PM
We don't want to be going into the Roscommon game needing points. Huge game tomorrow this is our chance.

Neither do we. I think both teams would be very happy to have it all done and dusted for the Breffni game, clear the benches and save the real action for Croker.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 15, 2014, 05:16:07 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if Longford,Sligo cause a few upsets tomorrow.  Our lads need to be fully  focused, Offaly fighting to stay up & will want to beat their neighbours. Unchanged team from what i hear.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2014, 02:46:59 PM
Wex 2-12 Sligo 1-12 FT

Ros 2-08 Offaly 1-03 HT

Longford 0-06 Cavan 0-04 HT

Just need to hold out and we're up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on March 16, 2014, 02:56:10 PM
Same old story from us, hit a couple of purple patches then fell asleep. Some of the starters are just not good enough for this grade in my opinion.
Another brilliant performance from marren and Kelly but too many players did not perform.

Word to pat Flanagan - pull off the next player that loses the ball in the tackle, enough is enough.

We need to beat Longford to stay up, very frustrating from a supporter point of view.  Fair play to Wexford, they did enough to win.  Good to see Colm McGee back
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2014, 03:42:23 PM
Ros 3-19 Offaly 2-04 FT

Donie was exceptional. He scored 9 or 10 points today and won loads of ball around the middle.

D2 is a reality. Never expected it to be so straight-forward after all the trouble we had. The lads are finally showing their potential. There's a great unity in the panel now. We have a panel of talented players with the right attitude and that's as solid a foundation to move forward with as you can have.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 16, 2014, 04:37:00 PM
Delighted we are finally out of div 3 & we did it in style with two games to spare. By my count Donie Shine scored 0-11 the fact he scored more than Offaly says it all really in truth todays game was a total non-contest. The next step is to make sure we good enough to stay in div 2 now, on the evidence of the performances this year and talent available to us i think we should do ok. Sad to see our neighbours fall so low but they have are some decent underage players coming through and will have to start again in div 4.

Well done to Cavan also like ourselves 5 wins from 5 the last two games matter little now however i'm looking forward to the Croke park final on April 26th.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 16, 2014, 06:35:40 PM
Terrible game in Longford in a terrible ground with a terrible referee. We should have been way ahead and missed a very scorable 1-4 in the first half and Longford had the ref to thank for giving them a lot of soft frees to keep them in touch and they ended up going in 1 point up at half time. Martin Dunne left his shooting boots behind today. At the 2nd of the 2nd half Cavan went down to 14 men when Mooney got a harsh 2nd yellow and then the ref started giving cavan a few soft frees before evening the teams with a straight red for a Longford player for a late tackle on Martin Reilly. Cavan hit their purple patch in the 3rd quarter, a quick free by mackey found Tierney who blasted a shot off the bar with an open goal gaping. The rebound  was touched on the line by the longford player and a penalty awarded which Dunne buried. Longford got a few more frees but never really threatened again.

Cavan again looked poor in attack. Made lots of chances and in total hit 13 wides, missed 2 excellent goal chances and dropped 6 shots short. Longford were more economical but created no goal chances and only had a few wides. However, we got the 2 points while playing poorly and that is a good sign. Thankfully we can get another run in Croke park and look forward to Div 2 football next year. Can't see us beating Roscommon without getting some of our players back for 2 weeks time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 16, 2014, 06:58:37 PM
Not great quality but who cares. Well done to all the lads, brilliant to get promoted with 2 games to spare.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2014, 07:23:49 PM
Well done to the Cavan lads on getting promoted too. Great to see two counties' work at grass-roots bearing some fruit.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on March 16, 2014, 10:19:30 PM
Great result today in Limerick.
Excellent display from the whole team.  Looked very focused and everybody played their part.
Defence was very much on top and we bossed the midfield sector.
Tomas Corrigan scored  9 points and kicked some great scores from play.
Without Seamus or Sean we played a quick running game and delivered good quality low ball into our forward line instead of just lumping it in.
So that leaves us third on 4 points along with Wicklow, Sligo and Longford.
Offaly need a miracle at this stage.

We have Wicklow and Offaly to play at home in our final 2 games so all very much on our own hands.

Seamie has been dropped. That's the last 4 Fermanagh managers that have shown him the road. They can't all be wrong.

The door has been left open for Conor and Sean.  Hopefully they will rejoin the panel and we can move on from this.

Congratulations to Roscommon and hope you go on and win the final.
Oh and Cavan too.  Yeah.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on March 16, 2014, 11:26:11 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 16, 2014, 02:56:10 PM
Same old story from us, hit a couple of purple patches then fell asleep. Some of the starters are just not good enough for this grade in my opinion.
Another brilliant performance from marren and Kelly but too many players did not perform.

Word to pat Flanagan - pull off the next player that loses the ball in the tackle, enough is enough.

We need to beat Longford to stay up, very frustrating from a supporter point of view.  Fair play to Wexford, they did enough to win.  Good to see Colm McGee back

Glad that Keelan Cawley was back and seemed to play very well. Some others that usually feature well on the radio commentary seemed very quiet today  ;)

Longford game huge for us now but to be honest we always suspected this. We should be at our strongest so far in the league - should have Egan, Bree and maybe even McIntyre so they'll be a big help. A win there and I don't think we can go down. Wexford were always going to be tough on their own patch today in a must win game for them. Sounded like lots of silly (repeated) errors but when we do hit a purple patch we can put 4 or 5 scores on very quickly, which is encouraging.

I think there's lots of room for improvement but I also do see signs of improvement.

Congrats to Cavan and Roscommon.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: SLIGONIAN on March 16, 2014, 11:47:20 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 16, 2014, 11:26:11 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 16, 2014, 02:56:10 PM
Same old story from us, hit a couple of purple patches then fell asleep. Some of the starters are just not good enough for this grade in my opinion.
Another brilliant performance from marren and Kelly but too many players did not perform.

Word to pat Flanagan - pull off the next player that loses the ball in the tackle, enough is enough.

We need to beat Longford to stay up, very frustrating from a supporter point of view.  Fair play to Wexford, they did enough to win.  Good to see Colm McGee back

Glad that Keelan Cawley was back and seemed to play very well. Some others that usually feature well on the radio commentary seemed very quiet today  ;)

Longford game huge for us now but to be honest we always suspected this. We should be at our strongest so far in the league - should have Egan, Bree and maybe even McIntyre so they'll be a big help. A win there and I don't think we can go down. Wexford were always going to be tough on their own patch today in a must win game for them. Sounded like lots of silly (repeated) errors but when we do hit a purple patch we can put 4 or 5 scores on very quickly, which is encouraging.

I think there's lots of room for improvement but I also do see signs of improvement.

Congrats to Cavan and Roscommon.
the reports I got from people at the game were pretty disgusted with today's effort. Very critical and naming several players just not good enough but being picked again and again. Patience is wearing thin by the sounds of it. Cawley curran Kelly Brehony got good mentions marren late on did well. As Seanie says bree Egan and McIntyre should boost and hopefully have Charlie back soon, hopefully they'll put Martyn in full back soon too. A far bit of pressure on us now, we have to beat Longford, Roscommon look strong. Congrats to Cavan and Roscommon, well deserved.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 17, 2014, 12:20:10 AM
That game v Cavan today was the most depressing 70 mins football I've seen in a while.

Standard was dire. Cavan should have won by a mile but they ultimately won cos they were the least worse of the two teams.

Only player that we had to earn his outfield spurs was Micky Quinn. The rest were clueless and uninspiring. (our goalie had a few good saves).

I had the misfortune to be with my 10 yr old daughter  in front of a Cavan ignoramus who effed, blinded, cnuted this, cnuted that the whole 70 mins.

Myles, you've disssed Pearse Park before iirc. Can you expand on what you see are the ground's faults? I've been traipsing in and out of there, and played there numerous times, since 1973 and I have no major issues with it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: gwan-ye-boy-ya on March 17, 2014, 12:34:51 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 16, 2014, 06:35:40 PM
Terrible game in Longford in a terrible ground with a terrible referee. We should have been way ahead and missed a very scorable 1-4 in the first half and Longford had the ref to thank for giving them a lot of soft frees to keep them in touch and they ended up going in 1 point up at half time. Martin Dunne left his shooting boots behind today. At the 2nd of the 2nd half Cavan went down to 14 men when Mooney got a harsh 2nd yellow and then the ref started giving cavan a few soft frees before evening the teams with a straight red for a Longford player for a late tackle on Martin Reilly. Cavan hit their purple patch in the 3rd quarter, a quick free by mackey found Tierney who blasted a shot off the bar with an open goal gaping. The rebound  was touched on the line by the longford player and a penalty awarded which Dunne buried. Longford got a few more frees but never really threatened again.

Cavan again looked poor in attack. Made lots of chances and in total hit 13 wides, missed 2 excellent goal chances and dropped 6 shots short. Longford were more economical but created no goal chances and only had a few wides. However, we got the 2 points while playing poorly and that is a good sign. Thankfully we can get another run in Croke park and look forward to Div 2 football next year. Can't see us beating Roscommon without getting some of our players back for 2 weeks time.
aye sure yous will beat the rosies alrite. Yon uns are the meath of connaught.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 17, 2014, 04:13:17 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 17, 2014, 12:20:10 AM
That game v Cavan today was the most depressing 70 mins football I've seen in a while.

Standard was dire. Cavan should have won by a mile but they ultimately won cos they were the least worse of the two teams.

Only player that we had to earn his outfield spurs was Micky Quinn. The rest were clueless and uninspiring. (our goalie had a few good saves).

I had the misfortune to be with my 10 yr old daughter  in front of a Cavan ignoramus who effed, blinded, cnuted this, cnuted that the whole 70 mins.

Myles, you've disssed Pearse Park before iirc. Can you expand on what you see are the ground's faults? I've been traipsing in and out of there, and played there numerous times, since 1973 and I have no major issues with it.

Sorry took me so long to reply, I was trying to figure out what iirc meant!

Well there are a few things with Pearse Park. The biggest problem is the terrace opposite the stand. Was it the O Reilly builder from Fawlty Towers who built it? You can't see the a few meters inside the side line when you stand on it in any sort of a crowd. I found that out the last time I was there against Roscommon in the U21 AI semi final two years ago and it was really annoying. I went to the seated area yesterday to find my view obscured by metal poles holding up the roof. The pitch was also in poor nick with a ping-pong style bounce of it which both teams found difficult to deal with. The fence along the side of the pitch was obviously built before levels were invented. As for the mess they made of trying to play  the national anthem at the start, well enough said really.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 17, 2014, 07:53:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 16, 2014, 04:37:00 PM
Delighted we are finally out of div 3 & we did it in style with two games to spare.
Well done to Cavan also like ourselves 5 wins from 5 the last two games matter little now however i'm looking forward to the Croke park final on April 26th.
Also delighted and we are certainly getting out of the badlands in some style.  A point difference of +43 (110/67) tells us that at last we've raised ourselves from the morass.
Jayses but weren't the Biffs absolutely awful. AZ what's goin on at all at all?
We helped them as much as we could by our comedy opera gifting them 2 goals.
A lot done but we've got a lot to do in the goalie and back division before we can hope to compete with the Rhus in June if we get over Laythrum.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 17, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 17, 2014, 07:53:54 PM
Also delighted and we are certainly getting out of the badlands in some style.  A point difference of +43 (110/67) tells us that at last we've raised ourselves from the morass.
Jayses but weren't the Biffs absolutely awful. AZ what's goin on at all at all?
We helped them as much as we could by our comedy opera gifting them 2 goals.
A lot done but we've got a lot to do in the goalie and back division before we can hope to compete with the Rhus in June if we get over Laythrum.
Credit to Evans & co for changing our style of play after those shocking displays against Leitrim,Longford. Mayo are far from water tight at the back this year either but at least they are playing against better quality than us & they should improve once some Cunniffe, Barrett return. Should we stick with the starting 6 defenders & hope they cut out the silly errors & defend better collectively or introduce more experience e.g Donal Ward,Ian Kilbride?

The last two league games will be used for fringe players, Cavan in Croke park will set up defensively against us & it should be a good test for our free scoring forward line before the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 17, 2014, 09:51:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 17, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
Should we stick with the starting 6 defenders & hope they cut out the silly errors & defend better collectively or introduce more experience e.g Donal Ward,Ian Kilbride?

Ward like Darragh Donnelly and Paddy Brogan seems to be injury prone. Kilbride too slow for the Summer.
I'd like to see Stack and Donnelly get seriously tried out but  the latter is injured these days.
It looks like goalie and FB line aren't on the same wavelengths either.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Qwerty28 on March 17, 2014, 10:46:20 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 17, 2014, 04:13:17 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 17, 2014, 12:20:10 AM
That game v Cavan today was the most depressing 70 mins football I've seen in a while.

Standard was dire. Cavan should have won by a mile but they ultimately won cos they were the least worse of the two teams.

Only player that we had to earn his outfield spurs was Micky Quinn. The rest were clueless and uninspiring. (our goalie had a few good saves).

I had the misfortune to be with my 10 yr old daughter  in front of a Cavan ignoramus who effed, blinded, cnuted this, cnuted that the whole 70 mins.

Myles, you've disssed Pearse Park before iirc. Can you expand on what you see are the ground's faults? I've been traipsing in and out of there, and played there numerous times, since 1973 and I have no major issues with it.

Sorry took me so long to reply, I was trying to figure out what iirc meant!

Well there are a few things with Pearse Park. The biggest problem is the terrace opposite the stand. Was it the O Reilly builder from Fawlty Towers who built it? You can't see the a few meters inside the side line when you stand on it in any sort of a crowd. I found that out the last time I was there against Roscommon in the U21 AI semi final two years ago and it was really annoying. I went to the seated area yesterday to find my view obscured by metal poles holding up the roof. The pitch was also in poor nick with a ping-pong style bounce of it which both teams found difficult to deal with. The fence along the side of the pitch was obviously built before levels were invented. As for the mess they made of trying to play  the national anthem at the start, well enough said really.

Shocking game altogether, couldn't be bothered trying to type all of the faults from a Longford viewpoint or I'd be here all night! Might be  lucky enough to stay up if we get some of the U-21s involved for last 2 games (unfortunately don't see us beating Dublin again Wed)

Re Pearse Park, they seem to be repairing/replacing some relevantly new terracing for some reason, as one wag pointed out yesterday it definately not an archaeological dig thats taking place. I agree it could do with being sloped better as the sideline on that side is impossible to see
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 17, 2014, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 17, 2014, 09:51:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 17, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
Should we stick with the starting 6 defenders & hope they cut out the silly errors & defend better collectively or introduce more experience e.g Donal Ward,Ian Kilbride?

Ward like Darragh Donnelly and Paddy Brogan seems to be injury prone. Kilbride too slow for the Summer.
I'd like to see Stack and Donnelly get seriously tried out but  the latter is injured these days.
It looks like goalie and FB line aren't on the same wavelengths either.

Big props to the forwards. The shaggy bear from Brigids is in flying form, unselfish and incredible vision at times. The Murt-Senan goal was poetry between two team-mates with complete trust in each other. Will be interesting how our free-flowing attack matches up with Cavan's quality defence in Croker.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 18, 2014, 09:47:23 AM
The terracing in Pearse Park on the near side is being reinforced as the original was beginning to shift.

I cannot empathise with you Myles as the last time I was in Pearse Park with a massive crowd was 1977 when the Dubs played Cavan. I never had trouble seeing the game when I stood on the near side terrace but I am over 6ft and perhaps there were shag all in front of me so maybe you have a valid point.

The stand was redeveloped a few years ago. There's only about 5 poles the entire length so you must have been unfortunate!

I agree with the pitch condition. I thought it looked very poor. And I was surprised cos they keep it under wraps from the county final to the beginning of the League. Perhaps the county hurlers made a dogs' dinner of it.

As for the balls up of The National Anthem......the only thing worse would have been if they put in an emergency call to the Longford Pipe Band to come and rescue the day!
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ck on March 18, 2014, 10:09:30 AM
Cavan and Rossies head and shoulders top two in div 3 but let's face it they haven't exactly beaten much. The rest of the teams in div 3 are no better than those in div 4
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: This Years Model on March 18, 2014, 10:42:18 AM
I hate to say it, but it's very much looking to me like a shoot-out between Wexford and Longford on the last day, with the loser going down ...

Allianz Football League Roinn 3 2014 Round 6
Cavan  v  Roscommon
Fermanagh  v  Wexford
Offaly  v  Limerick
Sligo  v  Longford

Allianz Football League Roinn 3 2014 Round 7
Roscommon  v  Sligo
Limerick  v  Cavan
Fermanagh  v  Offaly
Wexford  v  Longford
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 26, 2014, 04:00:23 PM
Action resumes in this mighty Division as we and Cyaavn play out the remaining schedule of meaningless glorified challenge matches.
I suppose two shadow teams here on Saturday?
Ros probably -
O'Reilly
Stack Collins Ward
Kilbride Donnelly Brogan
Finneran C Shine
Keane Burns Keenan
Compton O'Gara and ???
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2014, 04:40:08 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2014, 04:00:23 PM
Action resumes in this mighty Division as we and Cyaavn play out the remaining schedule of meaningless glorified challenge matches.
I suppose two shadow teams here on Saturday?
Ros probably -
O'Reilly
Stack Collins Ward
Kilbride Donnelly Brogan
Finneran C Shine
Keane Burns Keenan
Compton O'Gara and ???

Wouldn't be surprised by Donie Smith featuring this weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 26, 2014, 06:03:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2014, 04:00:23 PM
Action resumes in this mighty Division as we and Cyaavn play out the remaining schedule of meaningless glorified challenge matches.
I suppose two shadow teams here on Saturday?
Ros probably -
O'Reilly
Stack Collins Ward
Kilbride Donnelly Brogan
Finneran C Shine
Keane Burns Keenan
Compton O'Gara and ???

O'Gara full forward would be worth trying again. Scored two goals against Cavan in Breffni Park last year & Cavan haven't conceded a league goal since that game. On another note C Dineen,K Mannion, D McDermott,S Purcell,S Oates, D Butler featured in that game all are no longer the on panel.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 26, 2014, 11:41:33 PM
Is there some reason a few Roscommon fans on here cannot spell Cavan? Maybe 5 letters is too many.

Anyhow, I expect we will put out as strong a team as we can and go out to win. Winning is a habit so I'd be surprised if Roscommon do any different. Expect Keating and Clarke to make returns.  Hopefully will be a good game, someone has to lose the perfect record.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2014, 12:07:42 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 26, 2014, 11:41:33 PM
Is there some reason a few Roscommon fans on here cannot spell Cavan? Maybe 5 letters is too many.

Anyhow, I expect we will put out as strong a team as we can and go out to win. Winning is a habit so I'd be surprised if Roscommon do any different. Expect Keating and Clarke to make returns.  Hopefully will be a good game, someone has to lose the perfect record.

Good on ye Cabinets. We were just going up for the top class bahhhhter.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 28, 2014, 12:03:28 AM
The football purists from Roscommon face the anti-football monsters of Cavan on Sunday and for a change we've named a team:

QuoteR O'Reilly

S McDermott
N Collins
R Stack

P Brogan
D Donnelly
I Kilbride


K Higgins
M Finneran

D Keane
D Shine
C Compton

S Kilbride
D O'Gara
F Cregg

Bolded are the changes from the last day. No U21s as expected. Collins is a positional switch as well.

The Cavan team to face them:

Quote
Conor Gilsenan

Joshua Hayes
Rory Dunne   
Feargal Flanagan
   
Killian Brady   
Alan Clarke   
Damien O Reilly

Packie Leddy
Gearoid McKiernan   

Christopher Conroy   
Niall McDermott   
Martin Reilly   

Kevin Tierney   
Martin Dunne   
Eugene Keating
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 28, 2014, 11:12:48 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2014, 12:03:28 AM
we've named a team:

QuoteR O'Reilly

S McDermott
N Collins
R Stack

P Brogan
D Donnelly
I Kilbride


K Higgins
M Finneran

D Keane
D Shine
C Compton

S Kilbride
D O'Gara
F Cregg

Bolded are the changes from the last day. No U21s as expected. Collins is a positional switch as well.


Quote

My tongue in cheek prediction got 10 of them right.
The HB Line paying the penalty for being so open v Fermanagh, Limerick, Offaly etc?
Great chance for Stackeen, Donnelly and Paddy Brogan to claim a permanent place.
Hopefully Donie and Senan are in top form as the rest of the forward line doesn't inspire confidence.
anyway it's a meaningless game between two Counties whose minds are no doubt drifting towards long hot Summer days.....
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 28, 2014, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 28, 2014, 11:12:48 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2014, 12:03:28 AM
we've named a team:

QuoteR O'Reilly

S McDermott
N Collins
R Stack

P Brogan
D Donnelly
I Kilbride


K Higgins
M Finneran

D Keane
D Shine
C Compton

S Kilbride
D O'Gara
F Cregg

Bolded are the changes from the last day. No U21s as expected. Collins is a positional switch as well.


Quote

My tongue in cheek prediction got 10 of them right.
The HB Line paying the penalty for being so open v Fermanagh, Limerick, Offaly etc?
Great chance for Stackeen, Donnelly and Paddy Brogan to claim a permanent place.
Hopefully Donie and Senan are in top form as the rest of the forward line doesn't inspire confidence.
anyway it's a meaningless game between two Counties whose minds are no doubt drifting towards long hot Summer days.....

DOG showed some skill at FF, I'm interested to see how he plays in what is the Cathal Cregg role on Sunday, he 'll have plenty of ground to cover.

Think we've forgotten how good Comp is, if his use of the ball has improved he's an excellent young forward in his own right. Keane has impressed in his two chances this year, v Longford and the second half against Offaly.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 28, 2014, 03:36:41 PM
David O'Gara is no Cathal Cregg I'm afraid.
Compton needs to step up and fulfil his potential or he'll be another of the " God he was a great underage player" players.
Keane tries his hardest and will work for 70 minutes but I'm afraid he's not really a County player. OK in D3 but after that....
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 28, 2014, 05:45:29 PM
I thought Roscommon would be favourites but seems cavan are at 4/11.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 28, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2014, 05:45:29 PM
I thought Roscommon would be favourites but seems cavan are at 4/11.

Cavan were always favourites to win the div 3 title outright so it wouldn't have made sense if you weren't favourite to win this home game.

9 changes for us only 4 for Cavan, i presume both  teams are for the program & more changes will be made before throw in.

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 28, 2014, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 28, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2014, 05:45:29 PM
I thought Roscommon would be favourites but seems cavan are at 4/11.

Cavan were always favourites to win the div 3 title outright so it wouldn't have made sense if you weren't favourite to win this home game.

9 changes for us only 4 for Cavan, i presume both  teams are for the program & more changes will be made before throw in.

I can see that team starting unless Wardie or Ciaran Murt are fit to play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2014, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 28, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2014, 05:45:29 PM
I thought Roscommon would be favourites but seems cavan are at 4/11.

Cavan were always favourites to win the div 3 title outright so it wouldn't have made sense if you weren't favourite to win this home game.

9 changes for us only 4 for Cavan, i presume both  teams are for the program & more changes will be made before throw in.

May have been favouites at the start but Roscommon have shown the better form and have beaten teams more comfortably than Cavan have.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on March 28, 2014, 08:52:44 PM
Hello.........

Is there anyone not from Roscommon out there????

Me head is light reading this shtuff
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 28, 2014, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2014, 08:52:08 PM
May have been favouites at the start but Roscommon have shown the better form and have beaten teams more comfortably than Cavan have.
Have been keeping a close eye on the odds & Cavan have remained favourites throughout. We have been scoring freely while leaving ourselves open at the back. Cavan have been more cautious going forward & very strong defensively. The punters probably see Cavan's style of play to be more difficult to beat than ours.

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 28, 2014, 09:45:36 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 28, 2014, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2014, 08:52:08 PM
May have been favouites at the start but Roscommon have shown the better form and have beaten teams more comfortably than Cavan have.
Have been keeping a close eye on the odds & Cavan have remained favourites throughout. We have been scoring freely while leaving ourselves open at the back. Cavan have been more cautious going forward & very strong defensively. The punters probably see Cavan's style of play to be more difficult to beat than ours.

These are the same bookies that thought Sligo were 10/1 last weekend, though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 29, 2014, 01:23:16 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2014, 09:45:36 PM
These are the same bookies that thought Sligo were 10/1 last weekend, though.
Should be no odds on underage football IMO, already enough pressure on 18-21 year olds than having the extra pressure like the odds that was us last weekend. Also the lack of knowledge that goes into underage odds can be extremely poor.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 29, 2014, 11:23:31 AM
Cavan should win by a few if those are the starting teams but rumour is Keating won't start for us. Nice to see big leddy and Conroy get a run. Conroy was brilliant for last years u21s. Leddy was a bit slow in pre season but maybe his fitness might be back up by now.

Ross4life- what difference does it make to two teams if bookies accept bets on them?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 29, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
Well one 0 is gone - Senan Kilbride has scored the first goal against Cavan in this year's league.

Ros 1-03 Cavan 0-04 after 15 minutes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 29, 2014, 07:46:15 PM
Ros 1-03 Cavan 0-08 HT.

Ian K sent off after accidental striking the head of a Cavan player who was trying to obstruct a free, Cavan had been preventing him from playing quick frees all game with little protection from the referee.

That might be all she wrote for the game as a competition but I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 29, 2014, 08:45:10 PM
Ros 1-08 Cavan 0-14 FT.

Satisfied enough that with poor free-taking (missed penalty among them), down to 14 men for the second half and so many changes that we were still in the game at the end. We would have collapsed in other years in this sort of situation. Total shadow-boxing and neither side can draw too much from the game. See ye in Croker.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 29, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
Dogged stuff in the second half. Roscommon surprisingly playing very defensively. Poor night for Shine on the frees. Kilbride with a deserved red for swinging back the elbow into the Cavan player's face. Cavan were comfortable in the second half after the penalty miss and took the foot off the gas, Rossies controlled the last ten minutes. Two interceptions by Mickey Lyng were important going into the last few minutes. Keating was poor enough but bottled up well. Was really impressed by Martin Dunne who won some ball he had no right to win and made the most of limited possession. Workmanlike from Cavan but the Rossies didn't look to interested although Evans looked close to a coronary on the sideline at one stage.

Hopefully we will see better fare in Croker. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 29, 2014, 10:19:12 PM
Best team win. Red card deserved even if syphillis tries to defend it. Well done to Roscommon for scoring a goal against us.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 29, 2014, 10:20:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 29, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
Dogged stuff in the second half. Roscommon surprisingly playing very defensively. Poor night for Shine on the frees. Kilbride with a deserved red for swinging back the elbow into the Cavan player's face. Cavan were comfortable in the second half after the penalty miss and took the foot off the gas, Rossies controlled the last ten minutes. Two interceptions by Mickey Lyng were important going into the last few minutes. Keating was poor enough but bottled up well. Was really impressed by Martin Dunne who won some ball he had no right to win and made the most of limited possession. Workmanlike from Cavan but the Rossies didn't look to interested although Evans looked close to a coronary on the sideline at one stage.

Hopefully we will see better fare in Croker.

He always does.

No way we couldn't be very defensive after being reduced to 14. Wouldn't expect much different next month, maybe both teams will be more clinical but it could easily be another dour struggle.

Quote from: Itchy on March 29, 2014, 10:19:12 PM
Best team win. Red card deserved even if syphillis tries to defend it. Well done to Roscommon for scoring a goal against us.

You spelt my name wrong.

Ian deserved the red but the Cavan player deserved at least a yellow if not a black card for cynically trying to impede the free-taker. Too many times referees tick the person who responds and not the person who initiates.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 29, 2014, 10:28:17 PM
Error ridden display from us. Cavan's average score going into this game was 14 points per game so they kept that going tonight. Shame we had to play all of 2nd half with with 14 men but Ian Kilbride can have little complaints. We missed at least six scorable frees Senan in front of the posts around 20 yards out the worst miss. Would have been interesting finish if Donie Shine didn't miss that penalty but the best side on the night won.

I'm expecting no classic in Croker however if we sort out free taking we might have a decent chance to win it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 29, 2014, 10:51:30 PM
Roscommon had a wall of defence set up from the start and not just when they went down to 14.

Keating kicked some poor wides from Cavan, thought Conroy struggled a bit with the physicality. Both teams missing key players and I suppose it will depend on how the U21s for either team get on before we'll see if they'll have a full hand to pick from for the League Final. Nice to have a great chance of finishing the league unbeaten.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 29, 2014, 10:52:45 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 29, 2014, 10:51:30 PM
Roscommon had a wall of defence set up from the start and not just when they went down to 14.

Keating kicked some poor wides from Cavan, thought Conroy struggled a bit with the physicality. Both teams missing key players and I suppose it will depend on how the U21s for either team get on before we'll see if they'll have a full hand to pick from for the League Final. Nice to have a great chance of finishing the league unbeaten.

We'll be picking our U21s regardless.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 29, 2014, 11:45:03 PM
Even if it's the week before an All Ireland Final?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 29, 2014, 11:47:10 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 29, 2014, 11:45:03 PM
Even if it's the week before an All Ireland Final?

You don't seem to be aware of how we use our U21s, Westside. It wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 30, 2014, 03:39:01 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2014, 11:47:10 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 29, 2014, 11:45:03 PM
Even if it's the week before an All Ireland Final?

You don't seem to be aware of how we use our U21s, Westside. It wouldn't surprise me.

I was aware that they were used before the first game of the U21 Championship but that was when promotion was still uncertain and was presumably the county's number 1 priority. Winning the League Final would be nice but in reality it means very little given that Roscommon are promoted regardless, I can't see Roscommon risking U21 players if they got that far in the U21 Championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 30, 2014, 11:21:58 AM
No nor me either as our next 2 games are in effect sructured challenges. Winning a D3 cupeen might be nice but who really gives a toss as the only important thing for us and Cavan was escaping upwards from that Division.
We sent out our "B" squad and to make sure we wouldn't win we had Shine and Kilbride missing frees galore and Donie skying a penalty over the bar :-[  We still had problems from 2-9 and the absence of Enda,Cathal and Diarmuid from the forwards division brought home their value to the team.
If we were really mad about winning that game they'd have seen action at some stage - Cathal came on in the last few minutes alright.
Cavan are a well organised outfit who attack like a rugby league team, hit the corners regularly and get back to defend in numbers. We continue to struggle against those 3 tactics.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blowitupref on March 30, 2014, 04:41:33 PM
FT Sligo 0-15 Longford 2-8,Offaly 1-12 1-13 Limerick,  Fermanagh 1-16 Wexford 0-6 latest.

Wexford v Longford next weekend and i think the loser will go down. A draw would also good enough for Longford to stay up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on March 30, 2014, 04:44:13 PM
We hung on for a 1 point win which should be enough to stay up.

Possible free for Longford was not given at the death.  So next year we should get 4 home games.

Well done lads, however we fell asleep again for a while
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Blowitupref on March 30, 2014, 05:03:53 PM
FT Fermanagh 2-20 Wexford 3-8
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on March 30, 2014, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 30, 2014, 04:44:13 PM
We hung on for a 1 point win which should be enough to stay up.

Possible free for Longford was not given at the death.  So next year we should get 4 home games.

Well done lads, however we fell asleep again for a while

Its the luck of the draw how many home games you get.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 30, 2014, 05:26:40 PM
Listening to Shiteside it would seem Longford's first half performance was dire beyond all belief.

At least they stopped fluting around with the ball in the second half and went direct. Could have got a draw. Most have said it was a free in at the end, but there ya go. Wouldn't have made any difference I don't think. We need a draw or better v Wexford, whose wheels are nowhere to be found near their wagon.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 30, 2014, 07:23:14 PM
Big wins today for Sligo & Fermanagh.

We in Cavan can only be thankful that Roscommon spared us an inevitable hammering by a) Sending only their B team b) Getting a player sent off on purpose just to test how they'd play with 14 men and c) Intentionally kicking all their frees wide just to keep the game interesting.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 30, 2014, 08:02:24 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 30, 2014, 07:23:14 PM
Big wins today for Sligo & Fermanagh.

We in Cavan can only be thankful that Roscommon spared us an inevitable hammering by a) Sending only their B team b) Getting a player sent off on purpose just to test how they'd play with 14 men and c) Intentionally kicking all their frees wide just to keep the game interesting.

You're finally talking sense, Myles.

Johneen's master plan is coming together nicely.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Westside on March 30, 2014, 08:24:16 PM
Roscommon's first team will beat us comfortably in Croke Park.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 30, 2014, 08:37:34 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 30, 2014, 07:23:14 PM
Big wins today for Sligo & Fermanagh.

We in Cavan can only be thankful that Roscommon spared us an inevitable hammering by a) Sending only their B team b) Getting a player sent off on purpose just to test how they'd play with 14 men and c) Intentionally kicking all their frees wide just to keep the game interesting.
Syferus is slowing down, took him over 30mins to reply  :D

Seriously though a) our "B starting team" had 4 All Ireland club winners,3 All Ireland minor winners & 4 Sigerson cup winners. b) Ian Kilbride didn't learn from the sending off in Connacht club final c) div 4 level free taking or worse from us last night.

Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 30, 2014, 05:26:40 PM
Listening to Shiteside it would seem Longford's first half performance was dire beyond all belief.

At least they stopped fluting around with the ball in the second half and went direct. Could have got a draw. Most have said it was a free in at the end, but there ya go. Wouldn't have made any difference I don't think. We need a draw or better v Wexford, whose wheels are nowhere to be found near their wagon.

Hard to know whats going on when Willie Hegarty is doing the commentary. Sligo are staying up it looks like our other neighbours Longford should do likewise & both will probably be pushing promotion next year. I hope we don't go in the other direction.

-------------------------------

On another note. Sad news on the passing of Brendan Lynch today, a member of our All-Ireland winning teams in 1943/44. RIP.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 30, 2014, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 30, 2014, 08:02:24 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 30, 2014, 07:23:14 PM
Big wins today for Sligo & Fermanagh.

We in Cavan can only be thankful that Roscommon spared us an inevitable hammering by a) Sending only their B team b) Getting a player sent off on purpose just to test how they'd play with 14 men and c) Intentionally kicking all their frees wide just to keep the game interesting.

You're finally talking sense, Myles.

Johneen's master plan is coming together nicely.

Aye. Now to make the final competitive - that is to allow Cavan to stay in the game. Could we play both halves with the wind and have Joe McQuillan as the ref. Otherwise I fear Roscommon will beat us by 40 points.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 30, 2014, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 30, 2014, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 30, 2014, 08:02:24 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 30, 2014, 07:23:14 PM
Big wins today for Sligo & Fermanagh.

We in Cavan can only be thankful that Roscommon spared us an inevitable hammering by a) Sending only their B team b) Getting a player sent off on purpose just to test how they'd play with 14 men and c) Intentionally kicking all their frees wide just to keep the game interesting.

You're finally talking sense, Myles.

Johneen's master plan is coming together nicely.

Aye. Now to make the final competitive - that is to allow Cavan to stay in the game. Could we play both halves with the wind and have Joe McQuillan as the ref. Otherwise I fear Roscommon will beat us by 40 points.

And that's with us resting the U21s for the second half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 30, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 30, 2014, 08:37:34 PM

Seriously though a) our "B starting team" had 4 All Ireland club winners,3 All Ireland minor winners & 4 Sigerson cup winners. b) Ian Kilbride didn't learn from the sending off in Connacht club final c) div 4 level free taking or worse from us last night.


On another note. Sad news on the passing of Brendan Lynch today, a member of our All-Ireland winning teams in 1943/44. RIP.

Minor, All Ireland Club, Sigerson are all fine and well but Senior Inter Co ( even D3)  is a step up and some lads just haven't got what it takes.
RIP Brendan. Only 2 left now John Joe Nerney and Liam Gilmartin. As the oul  refrain went " Nerney small and Gilmartin tall "
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 30, 2014, 10:47:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 30, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 30, 2014, 08:37:34 PM

Seriously though a) our "B starting team" had 4 All Ireland club winners,3 All Ireland minor winners & 4 Sigerson cup winners. b) Ian Kilbride didn't learn from the sending off in Connacht club final c) div 4 level free taking or worse from us last night.


On another note. Sad news on the passing of Brendan Lynch today, a member of our All-Ireland winning teams in 1943/44. RIP.

Minor, All Ireland Club, Sigerson are all fine and well but Senior Inter Co ( even D3)  is a step up and some lads just haven't got what it takes.
RIP Brendan. Only 2 left now John Joe Nerney and Liam Gilmartin. As the oul  refrain went " Nerney small and Gilmartin tall "

Isn't there another member of panel that started the AISF in '43 or '44 still alive too? I remember Tony Conboy doing an interview with him in the Herald a year or two ago. Think he emigrated after '44, he was quite young.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: sligoman2 on March 31, 2014, 12:22:43 AM
So the loser of wex v Longford goes down.  Home field advantage might shade it for Wexford but they would need a big mprovement on today or they will be playing against our good friends in London next year
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 31, 2014, 01:00:26 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 30, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
Minor, All Ireland Club, Sigerson are all fine and well but Senior Inter Co ( even D3)  is a step up and some lads just haven't got what it takes.
Didn't show it that dead rubber game however i think the majority of those lads have what it takes & a good management team will always get the best out of players. Others lads without those credentials will find it tougher to step up but then again thats the same with every county.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on March 31, 2014, 11:15:06 AM
Big sigh of relief after the final whistle yeaterday. Disappointed that I couldn't make it to Markievicz myself but happy with what I've heard about it. Survival was always the goal for the league. That has been acheived so now the focus turns to June and a home tie against either Galway or our conquerers of last year, London. Lots of work to be done but some better options at our disposal following this league. We till have some troublesome areas that we may not have the personnel to fix but I'm sure the manager will come up with something to mitigate these problems. I think we'll be decent in the summer.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: FermGael on March 31, 2014, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 31, 2014, 11:15:06 AM
Big sigh of relief after the final whistle yesterday. Disappointed that I couldn't make it to Markievicz myself but happy with what I've heard about it. Survival was always the goal for the league. That has been achieved so now the focus turns to June and a home tie against either Galway or our conquerors of last year, London. Lots of work to be done but some better options at our disposal following this league. We till have some troublesome areas that we may not have the personnel to fix but I'm sure the manager will come up with something to mitigate these problems. I think we'll be decent in the summer.

Exactly the same thing for Fermanagh.
Game was over at half time and we took our foot of the gas.
Wexford were very slow to start and i would say a lot of that was due to their decision to travel up the morning of the game.

Quigleys have not be missed.  Seems to be a good unity in the panel now.  Owens was a real handful at full forward and Tomas Corrigan has really stepped up. 
McCluskey was missing as well yesterday and our best defender in the league, John Woods, had to come of injured.
All things considered, a good league campaign for Fermanagh considering the retirements at the start of the year and the Quigley side show.  Alot of young players have been blooded in the league and have played well. 
Hopefully Pete may spot a few more in the next while whenever the club leagues commence.  Still think the panel could could with a reinforcement or two.  McCabe would be a good addition whenever his soccer commitments are over. 

Focus now shifts to Antrim at the start of June. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: SLIGONIAN on March 31, 2014, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 31, 2014, 11:15:06 AM
Big sigh of relief after the final whistle yeaterday. Disappointed that I couldn't make it to Markievicz myself but happy with what I've heard about it. Survival was always the goal for the league. That has been acheived so now the focus turns to June and a home tie against either Galway or our conquerers of last year, London. Lots of work to be done but some better options at our disposal following this league. We till have some troublesome areas that we may not have the personnel to fix but I'm sure the manager will come up with something to mitigate these problems. I think we'll be decent in the summer.
I actually think it's been a disappointing league from flanagans point of view, survival just about was my expectation but no way was it flanagans or his suitors, I honestly believe they thought promotion. All I've heard is how much work we have to do etc...it will probably be rolled out in June aswell, or this was never a 1yr plan,  his team selections are atrocious and don't reflect form at all, he's showed no signs of learning either. He's far too loyal to some players while others are ruthlessly discarded. So far for me I'm unimpressed with the management. I was relieved on Sunday though but with there injury list we had to win at home.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 31, 2014, 12:56:20 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 31, 2014, 01:00:26 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 30, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
Minor, All Ireland Club, Sigerson are all fine and well but Senior Inter Co ( even D3)  is a step up and some lads just haven't got what it takes.
Didn't show it that dead rubber game however i think the majority of those lads have what it takes & a good management team will always get the best out of players. Others lads without those credentials will find it tougher to step up but then again thats the same with every county.
I think it's fair to say Evans' aim as well as promotion was to have a squad of 21/22 outfield players to fill the first 14 plus 6 substitutions to have us competitive for the Championship.
Based on what we've seen and barring injuries -
Collins, Carty, Seanie, Ward, N Daly, Stack, Cafferky,
Keenan, C Daly
Finneran, Higgins, C Shine, 
2 Smiths, 2 Murtaghs, Donie Shine, Senan, C Cregg, O'Gara.

After that we'd be struggling a bit but Compton, Keane , F Cregg plus any stepper uppers from U21 might keep a few lads on their toes.
Meanwhile if the Cavan game was a dead rubber the Sligo game will be a totally extinct one as they are now safe and we can't do worse than 2nd.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on March 31, 2014, 05:42:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 31, 2014, 12:56:20 PM
I think it's fair to say Evans' aim as well as promotion was to have a squad of 21/22 outfield players to fill the first 14 plus 6 substitutions to have us competitive for the Championship.
Based on what we've seen and barring injuries -
Collins, Carty, Seanie, Ward, N Daly, Stack, Cafferky,
Keenan, C Daly
Finneran, Higgins, C Shine, 
2 Smiths, 2 Murtaghs, Donie Shine, Senan, C Cregg, O'Gara.

After that we'd be struggling a bit but Compton, Keane , F Cregg plus any stepper uppers from U21 might keep a few lads on their toes.
Meanwhile if the Cavan game was a dead rubber the Sligo game will be a totally extinct one as they are now safe and we can't do worse than 2nd.


Those in bold came off our last four U-21 teams i think its fair to say Evans has a better panel to work with than other Ros managers had in the last decade. With so much potential in our panel i hope Evans,Sheerin,Burke are the right management team to get the best out of them.

Quote from: Rossfan on March 31, 2014, 12:56:20 PM
Meanwhile if the Cavan game was a dead rubber the Sligo game will be a totally extinct one as they are now safe and we can't do worse than 2nd.
Yes total dead rubber the only game in div 3 that isn't will be Wexford v Longford.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on March 31, 2014, 06:03:10 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 31, 2014, 05:42:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 31, 2014, 12:56:20 PM
I think it's fair to say Evans' aim as well as promotion was to have a squad of 21/22 outfield players to fill the first 14 plus 6 substitutions to have us competitive for the Championship.
Based on what we've seen and barring injuries -
Collins, Carty, Seanie, Ward, N Daly, Stack, Cafferky,
Keenan, C Daly
Finneran, Higgins, C Shine, 
2 Smiths, 2 Murtaghs, Donie Shine, Senan, C Cregg, O'Gara.

After that we'd be struggling a bit but Compton, Keane , F Cregg plus any stepper uppers from U21 might keep a few lads on their toes.
Meanwhile if the Cavan game was a dead rubber the Sligo game will be a totally extinct one as they are now safe and we can't do worse than 2nd.


Those in bold came off our last four U-21 teams i think its fair to say Evans has a better panel to work with than other Ros managers had in the last decade. With so much potential in our panel i hope Evans,Sheerin,Burke are the right management team to get the best out of them.

Quote from: Rossfan on March 31, 2014, 12:56:20 PM
Meanwhile if the Cavan game was a dead rubber the Sligo game will be a totally extinct one as they are now safe and we can't do worse than 2nd.
Yes total dead rubber the only game in div 3 that isn't will be Wexford v Longford.

Arrah sure we don't have much on the Sunday, the lads might as well turn up. Hopefully we'll be nursing a hangover after celebrating our first Connacht title of the year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on March 31, 2014, 08:04:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 31, 2014, 06:03:10 PM
Hopefully we'll be nursing a hangover after celebrating our first Connacht title of the year.
Who do you get to buy the drink for you?  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on April 01, 2014, 11:58:17 PM
Who's brain fart was it to put the cavan limerick game on at 4pm on Saturday, if that wasnt bad enough we will have to avoid traffic heading to some rugby match. All club games moved in the county too. Thanks to the powers that be.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: AZOffaly on April 02, 2014, 10:02:22 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 01, 2014, 11:58:17 PM
Who's brain fart was it to put the cavan limerick game on at 4pm on Saturday, if that wasnt bad enough we will have to avoid traffic heading to some rugby match. All club games moved in the county too. Thanks to the powers that be.

Cavan and Limerick is on at 4pm in Limerick???? Holy Jaysus that will be a nightmare for the Gaelic Grounds. Thomond Park will only be clearing out at that stage, the Toulouse game is kicking off at 1.30.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: cornafean on April 02, 2014, 11:14:24 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 01, 2014, 11:58:17 PM
Who's brain fart was it to put the cavan limerick game on at 4pm on Saturday, if that wasnt bad enough we will have to avoid traffic heading to some rugby match. All club games moved in the county too. Thanks to the powers that be.

Request from Limerick county board, apparently.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on April 02, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 01, 2014, 11:58:17 PM
Who's brain fart was it to put the cavan limerick game on at 4pm on Saturday, if that wasnt bad enough we will have to avoid traffic heading to some rugby match. All club games moved in the county too. Thanks to the powers that be.

Heineken Cup Quarter final - not some AIL Division 2 game, Thomand and Navan
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2014, 04:44:30 PM
Hope you enjoyed the rugby Rodney. Here in the big game Cavan are 8 pts to 7 pts up at half time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2014, 05:53:43 PM
Final score 18 to 14. Great achievement to win 7/7. Ref today was very much against us too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on April 05, 2014, 05:56:44 PM
Yeah the Gaelic Grounds was full to capacity, Good to keep the momentum up
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2014, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 05, 2014, 05:56:44 PM
Yeah the Gaelic Grounds was full to capacity, Good to keep the momentum up

Didn't realise you were there Rodney, we could have met for a few scoops.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on April 05, 2014, 06:33:30 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 05, 2014, 05:53:43 PM
Final score 18 to 14. Great achievement to win 7/7. Ref today was very much against us too.
Fine achievement regardless the division but if my memory serves me right Longford won 6 & drew 1 in 2012 only to lose all their games in div 2 the following year. Promotion was the priority for ourselves & Cavan the next step is to stay up & anything else will be a bonus.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on April 05, 2014, 06:45:19 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 05, 2014, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 05, 2014, 05:56:44 PM
Yeah the Gaelic Grounds was full to capacity, Good to keep the momentum up

Didn't realise you were there Rodney, we could have met for a few scoops.

I wasn't. 4.30 in Limerick wasn't suitable on a Saturday, can you stick up a match report other then the ref being no good - heard that on the radio
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2014, 07:05:53 PM
Just thought you were there when you were commenting on the size of the crowd. Match report is on hogan stand. Im on the mobile here, too long to a report. Any specific questions fire away.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on April 05, 2014, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 05, 2014, 07:05:53 PM
Just thought you were there when you were commenting on the size of the crowd. Match report is on hogan stand. Im on the mobile here, too long to a report. Any specific questions fire away.

Ah jus thought you might have been one of those lads that relies on twitter and Nortern Sound and then pretends to be at the game. I know its on Hoganstand cheers.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2014, 10:46:56 PM
Live in Galway so only an hour up the road. Not that big of a sacrifice for me to make it today.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2014, 05:08:18 PM
Woeful game in Hyde park the last two games we have returned to the form of the FBD final i hope some of the fast moving high scoring form seen against Limerick,Wexford etc will return in Croke park in a few weeks however either way one would have to fancy unbeaten Cavan to win the title.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on April 06, 2014, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2014, 05:08:18 PM
Woeful game in Hyde park the last two games we have returned to the form of the FBD final i hope some of the fast moving high scoring form seen against Limerick,Wexford etc will return in Croke park in a few weeks however either way one would have to fancy unbeaten Cavan to win the title.

I hear Cavan are the real deal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2014, 08:10:11 PM
Great league for Cavan. Played well in patches in most games but could always rely on a mean defense to keep us all our games. Div 3 is hard to get out off with a lot of the teams in it capable of beating others although I'd admit that some of the teams I was expecting to challenge just did not do so.

The final will be interesting as I am not sure if both teams will give it everything and risk showing their hands for the championship. It would certainly be nice to get some silverware but that would be quickly forgotten if Armagh roll us over in Ulster. I expect Roscommon feel the same way. Hopefully we give a better account of ourselves than we did the last time we met Roscommon in Croke park.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shrewdness on April 06, 2014, 09:08:19 PM
Make no mistake, Roscommon are planning to win in Croke Park. Winning that game won't damage a team's championship prospects.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on April 06, 2014, 09:27:34 PM
So are Cavan, focus will be on Armagh after that game not now. Armagh game isnt until June 8th
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: tommysmith on April 06, 2014, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 06, 2014, 09:27:34 PM
So are Cavan, focus will be on Armagh after that game not now. Armagh game isnt until June 8th

Didn't realise it was that late May will be a long Month.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on April 06, 2014, 09:54:16 PM
Yeah its Sunday June 8th, the last 3 years Cavan have been in the premliminary Round so that was 2 weeks earlier late May.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 07, 2014, 09:01:58 AM
Bye lads and lassies. Nice knowing ye.

*packs bags, exits quietly*

:-[
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on April 07, 2014, 09:20:36 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on April 07, 2014, 09:01:58 AM
Bye lads and lassies. Nice knowing ye.

*packs bags, exits quietly*

:-[

Two up, two down in four years? Longford sure like motoring.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Black Card on April 07, 2014, 10:24:34 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 06, 2014, 09:27:34 PM
So are Cavan, focus will be on Armagh after that game not now. Armagh game isnt until June 8th

FFS Cavan just have to turn up and they will beat Armagh.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: rodney trotter on April 07, 2014, 10:26:59 AM
Would expect a performance from Armagh, still 2 months away. What is the injury situation like now?
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on April 07, 2014, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on April 07, 2014, 09:01:58 AM
Bye lads and lassies. Nice knowing ye.

*packs bags, exits quietly*

:-[

Don't become strangers. Get back here asap.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Rossfan on April 07, 2014, 10:50:44 AM
THe word "Pedestrian" was invented for games like yesterday's appalling spectacle in the Hyde.
The players were disinterested, the followers definitely were as only around 500 turned up and when you take away the U16s and Season ticketers did 100 people actually pay on the day?
Can you imagine Kilkenny hurlers being disinterested in a game even a matterless one? No! That's what separates winners from"Ah sure we're doin grand" players.
We were diabolical in the first half yet could have been ahead if we'd got the deserved penalty. However the removal of 1 disinterested lad and 2 who aren't County players at half time improved us a bit. Compton with 2 v good points , C Murtagh won a few good frees early on and looked lively all through while Keane ( not a County player either) worked his ***** off.
David Keenan had a great game but - don't be gettin on the end of moves near the posts Davidín - not your strong point.
We spent most of the day goin backwards and sideways and arsin around , a style of gobsh1tery I thought we'd eradicated.
Problems remain from 2-9 - we have NO Midfield. I wonder will many more members of the U21 squad be moved up to try and improve things for the Summer e.g Murray, Corcoran.
Like our Longford friend it's farewell to D3 and no loss either.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 07, 2014, 12:47:04 PM
Thanks Seanie.

The new regime has not settled well in Longford. For the most part of the League we played brutal stuff. One would think the goals are across the pitch watching Longford. Handpass, handpass, handpass, lose possession, run back to goals etc etc.

From Div 4 to Div 3 to Div 2 to Div 3 to Div 4. Tipp did the same a few years ago.

Knives are being sharpened I hear.

I am too depressed to think of tuning into results from Fraher Field, Ruislip or Aughrim in 2015. I wont even get to see us play Offaly in May as I will be in Wexford that Sunday at an event.

Tis a black day for us Longford folk.

Good luck to Rossies and Cavan in Div 2. It's a different world up there and I hope ye survive.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: armaghniac on April 07, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
Shamrock Shore, would you have any info on where to park near Div 3 venues and the like that you no longer need? I'm sure Tony Fearon would be glad of this. Following comments on the Sky TV thread, I am going to emigrate.  :-[
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 07, 2014, 03:31:46 PM
Sorry to hear of your troubles Armaniac. But don't despair. Plenty of parking near all of the grounds of counties in Div 3 in 2015 for the bauld Fearon - especially if he turns up at each of them a week early.

Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on April 07, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on April 07, 2014, 12:47:04 PM
Thanks Seanie.

The new regime has not settled well in Longford. For the most part of the League we played brutal stuff. One would think the goals are across the pitch watching Longford. Handpass, handpass, handpass, lose possession, run back to goals etc etc.

From Div 4 to Div 3 to Div 2 to Div 3 to Div 4. Tipp did the same a few years ago.

Knives are being sharpened I hear.

I am too depressed to think of tuning into results from Fraher Field, Ruislip or Aughrim in 2015. I wont even get to see us play Offaly in May as I will be in Wexford that Sunday at an event.

Tis a black day for us Longford folk.

Good luck to Rossies and Cavan in Div 2. It's a different world up there and I hope ye survive.

Cheers Shams. Longford are too solid a county to be down in D4 for long.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on April 07, 2014, 05:42:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 07, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
Shamrock Shore, would you have any info on where to park near Div 3 venues and the like that you no longer need? I'm sure Tony Fearon would be glad of this. Following comments on the Sky TV thread, I am going to emigrate.  :-[

;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: magpie seanie on April 08, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on April 07, 2014, 03:31:46 PM
Sorry to hear of your troubles Armaniac. But don't despair. Plenty of parking near all of the grounds of counties in Div 3 in 2015 for the bauld Fearon - especially if he turns up at each of them a week early.

And he'll be delighted to know that he can get a cup of tea and even a bowl of soup in Markievicz Park if Armagh are one of our opponents in our 3 home games (for some reason we only get 3, year after year...). He did some moaning about not being able to feed his face the last time he was there.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: armaghniac on April 08, 2014, 12:29:23 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 08, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on April 07, 2014, 03:31:46 PM
Sorry to hear of your troubles Armaniac. But don't despair. Plenty of parking near all of the grounds of counties in Div 3 in 2015 for the bauld Fearon - especially if he turns up at each of them a week early.

And he'll be delighted to know that he can get a cup of tea and even a bowl of soup in Markievicz Park if Armagh are one of our opponents in our 3 home games (for some reason we only get 3, year after year...). He did some moaning about not being able to feed his face the last time he was there.

There are some advantages, Wexford Park has the best coffee of any GAA venue.
Title: Re: NFL Division 3 2014
Post by: Syferus on April 08, 2014, 02:00:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 08, 2014, 12:29:23 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 08, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on April 07, 2014, 03:31:46 PM
Sorry to hear of your troubles Armaniac. But don't despair. Plenty of parking near all of the grounds of counties in Div 3 in 2015 for the bauld Fearon - especially if he turns up at each of them a week early.

And he'll be delighted to know that he can get a cup of tea and even a bowl of soup in Markievicz Park if Armagh are one of our opponents in our 3 home games (for some reason we only get 3, year after year...). He did some moaning about not being able to feed his face the last time he was there.

There are some advantages, Wexford Park has the best coffee of any GAA venue.

We use washroom water in ours.

Pity we're closing the Hyde next year because we could have infected the D2 elite.