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Title: county championships 2013
Post by: waterfordlad on September 19, 2013, 08:04:19 AM
How are the championships going in other counties?
In Waterford De La Salle last years champions were beaten after extra time by Ballygunner last weekend. The semi final line up is Ballygunner v Abbeyside and Mount Sion v Passage.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 10:15:34 AM
Antrim Championship at semi-final stage also

Dunloy v Cushendall will be tight but think Cushendall will come through

Ballycastle v Loughgiel and I think Loughgiel will come through that one also.

Could be a banana skin somewhere but form tells me different
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: spuds on September 19, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
Abbeyside is Dungarvan or just outside ?
Would hurling have a strong standing in the town ?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: deiseach on September 19, 2013, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: spuds on September 19, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
Abbeyside is Dungarvan or just outside ?
Would hurling have a strong standing in the town ?

Abbeyside is that part of the metropolis on the Waterford side of the river. Hurling seems to be on the ascendant in both parts of the conurbation, although Abbeyside's football half, Ballinacourty, are still one of the teams to beat.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 19, 2013, 04:52:27 PM
Armagh Championship Final Replay tonight: Keady Lamh Derg v Armagh Cuchulainns.

Cuchulainns hoping to break the Keady/Middletown Duopoly from 1989. Going to be a tough outing for our lads as Keady have a lot of experience, but we have a young fit squad that will hopefully pull through after the drawn game.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 19, 2013, 04:59:17 PM
Only one quarter-final played in Galway so far. Beagh beat Turloughmore last weekend. Other quarter-final games on this coming weekend.

Padraig Pearses v Loughrea
Castlegar v St Thomas
Ardrahan v Portumna
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: AZOffaly on September 19, 2013, 05:12:01 PM
In Tipperary, they have 3 of the 4 semi finalists and surprisingly both finalists from last year are gone already after Drom and Inch followed Sarsfields out the door by losing to Nenagh last weekend.

The confirmed semi finalists are Nenagh Eire Óg, Loughmore-Castleiney (who must be favourites now with all the McGraths) and Borrisoleigh, while Kildangan and Clonoulty-Rossmore must replay their quarter final.

Up in Offaly they are awaiting a final clash between the nouveau riche in Kilcormac-Killoughy and the old monied Birr. Birr beat another old firm side, Saint Rynaghs, in their semi final while KK overcame Clareen, or Sier Kieran.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 19, 2013, 05:12:01 PM
In Tipperary, they have 3 of the 4 semi finalists and surprisingly both finalists from last year are gone already after Drom and Inch followed Sarsfields out the door by losing to Nenagh last weekend.

The confirmed semi finalists are Nenagh Eire Óg, Loughmore-Castleiney (who must be favourites now with all the McGraths) and Borrisoleigh, while Kildangan and Clonoulty-Rossmore must replay their quarter final.

Up in Offaly they are awaiting a final clash between the nouveau riche in Kilcormac-Killoughy and the old monied Birr. Birr beat another old firm side, Saint Rynaghs, in their semi final while KK overcame Clareen, or Sier Kieran.

Well they are 5/2 in PP at the minute, you confident?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 19, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Slaughtneil won Derry - not sure how they will cope in Ulster
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Harold Disgracey on September 20, 2013, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 19, 2013, 04:52:27 PM
Armagh Championship Final Replay tonight: Keady Lamh Derg v Armagh Cuchulainns.

Cuchulainns hoping to break the Keady/Middletown Duopoly from 1989. Going to be a tough outing for our lads as Keady have a lot of experience, but we have a young fit squad that will hopefully pull through after the drawn game.

Was at the game last night, Cuchullain's won by 2 points in a very entertaining game, 2-12 to 1-13.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2013, 08:55:02 AM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on September 20, 2013, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 19, 2013, 04:52:27 PM
Armagh Championship Final Replay tonight: Keady Lamh Derg v Armagh Cuchulainns.

Cuchulainns hoping to break the Keady/Middletown Duopoly from 1989. Going to be a tough outing for our lads as Keady have a lot of experience, but we have a young fit squad that will hopefully pull through after the drawn game.

Was at the game last night, Cuchullain's won by 2 points in a very entertaining game, 2-12 to 1-13.

Well done Cuchullain's, great club and I remember playing against them when they entered the Antrim leagues think they had a couple of spells there, and we played them in the Athletic grounds
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: spuds on September 20, 2013, 11:17:36 AM
Quote from: deiseach on September 19, 2013, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: spuds on September 19, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
Abbeyside is Dungarvan or just outside ?
Would hurling have a strong standing in the town ?

Abbeyside is that part of the metropolis on the Waterford side of the river. Hurling seems to be on the ascendant in both parts of the conurbation, although Abbeyside's football half, Ballinacourty, are still one of the teams to beat.
Dungarvan schools and CBS successes bodes well for their future, good to see clubs lift themselves out of the shadows of the city teams.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: AZOffaly on September 20, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 19, 2013, 05:12:01 PM
In Tipperary, they have 3 of the 4 semi finalists and surprisingly both finalists from last year are gone already after Drom and Inch followed Sarsfields out the door by losing to Nenagh last weekend.

The confirmed semi finalists are Nenagh Eire Óg, Loughmore-Castleiney (who must be favourites now with all the McGraths) and Borrisoleigh, while Kildangan and Clonoulty-Rossmore must replay their quarter final.

Up in Offaly they are awaiting a final clash between the nouveau riche in Kilcormac-Killoughy and the old monied Birr. Birr beat another old firm side, Saint Rynaghs, in their semi final while KK overcame Clareen, or Sier Kieran.

Well they are 5/2 in PP at the minute, you confident?

Of the 5 that are left, I think Loughmore have as good a chance as any. I wouldn't think the standard is outstanding, and the likes of John and Noel McGrath will be huge for them. Clonoulty would be my other pick of the 5, but maybe that's because I can't imagine Kildangan, Nenagh or Borrisoleigh as senior champions :)
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on September 20, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Limerick is down to the final stage with Na Piarsaigh v Adare

Na Piarsaigh had a good victory over reigning champions Kilmallock, while Adare had a close fought 2pt win over Doon.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 22, 2013, 07:22:14 PM
Semi-finals line-up decided in Galway

Portumna v St Thomas
Beagh v Loughrea
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on September 23, 2013, 11:18:24 AM
Portaferry and ourselves, Ballygalget in the Down final this Sunday.

Ports surprisingly beat Ballycran in a very poor semi-final when they were a man down for 50 minutes and Paul Braniff out with a kidney infection. How Ballycran contrived to lose it with 5 points up I still haven't worked out.

As for the final, the Ports will be buoyed by their semi-final win and whilst we played a challenge game in Dublin last week I'd expect us to be sluggish and start slowly which can be a recipe for a disaster on a small pitch like Ballycrans if we need to go chasing the game.

Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 23, 2013, 11:18:24 AM
Portaferry and ourselves, Ballygalget in the Down final this Sunday.

Ports surprisingly beat Ballycran in a very poor semi-final when they were a man down for 50 minutes and Paul Braniff out with a kidney infection. How Ballycran contrived to lose it with 5 points up I still haven't worked out.

As for the final, the Ports will be buoyed by their semi-final win and whilst we played a challenge game in Dublin last week I'd expect us to be sluggish and start slowly which can be a recipe for a disaster on a small pitch like Ballycrans if we need to go chasing the game.

Yous be favs for that though Johnny
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on September 23, 2013, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 23, 2013, 11:18:24 AM
Portaferry and ourselves, Ballygalget in the Down final this Sunday.

Ports surprisingly beat Ballycran in a very poor semi-final when they were a man down for 50 minutes and Paul Braniff out with a kidney infection. How Ballycran contrived to lose it with 5 points up I still haven't worked out.

As for the final, the Ports will be buoyed by their semi-final win and whilst we played a challenge game in Dublin last week I'd expect us to be sluggish and start slowly which can be a recipe for a disaster on a small pitch like Ballycrans if we need to go chasing the game.

Yous be favs for that though Johnny

Not so sure MR2, some of our forwards won't like the lack of space in Ballycran and our team selection is very much up in the air, no one has any idea what our starting 15 is and in what positions they might be in, hardly conducive for a good start..

TBH neither team will go any further as we're currently a few steps below Cushendall and Loughgeil in Antrim.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 23, 2013, 11:42:26 AM
Antrim Senior Huring Championship
Semi-Final Results

Cushendall 1-18 beat Dunloy 2-10
Loughgiel 2-20 beat Ballycastle 1-09


Final to be payed on Sunday 29th September in Ballycastle
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: waterfordlad on September 29, 2013, 07:04:56 PM
Passage through to play neighbours Ballygunner in the Waterford SHC final. Passage beat Mount Sion by 5 points today and Ballygunner beat Abbeyside by the same margin. First time Passage have reached final since 1997 when they lost to Ballygunner.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: waterfordlad on September 29, 2013, 07:04:56 PM
Passage through to play neighbours Ballygunner in the Waterford SHC final. Passage beat Mount Sion by 5 points today and Ballygunner beat Abbeyside by the same margin. First time Passage have reached final since 1997 when they lost to Ballygunner.

Loughgiel Antrim Champions beat Cushendall 3-14  to 2-06
Title: Down SHC
Post by: No1 on September 29, 2013, 08:30:27 PM
Ballygalget are the senior champions of Down. Kilclief are the junior champions.  :)
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 30, 2013, 06:34:31 PM
What Waterford players are playing with Passage? Is that the club Eoin Kelly moved to, is he still playing?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: deiseach on October 01, 2013, 10:07:22 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 30, 2013, 06:34:31 PM
What Waterford players are playing with Passage? Is that the club Eoin Kelly moved to, is he still playing?

Yes, Eoin Kelly plays for Passage, as does Noel Connors.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 06, 2013, 05:44:57 PM
Galway semi-finals

Loughrea 2-18 Beagh 1-11

St Thomas 1-19 Portumna 0-22
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 04:13:51 PM
Portumna 0-6 St Thomas 1-6 nearly half time. Sounds like a decent game
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 04:21:32 PM
Portumna 0-9 St Thomas 1-7 ht
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
Portumna 0-14 St Thomas 1-9
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 05:12:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
Portumna 0-14 St Thomas 1-9

Game over Portumna through to final to play Loughrea, should be a humdinger!!
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Lecale2 on October 12, 2013, 07:22:23 PM
The Galway final generally is!! Thank God for TG4.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 12, 2013, 10:06:54 PM
Mayo SHC Final tomorrow as well. Ballyhaunis v Tooreen, 2pm in Ballyhaunis.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 12, 2013, 10:06:54 PM
Mayo SHC Final tomorrow as well. Ballyhaunis v Tooreen, 2pm in Ballyhaunis.

Ballyhaunis must be big favs? Have they ever beaten the Galway Champions? They play Intermediate don't they once they get out of Mayo?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 12, 2013, 11:01:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 12, 2013, 10:06:54 PM
Mayo SHC Final tomorrow as well. Ballyhaunis v Tooreen, 2pm in Ballyhaunis.

Ballyhaunis must be big favs? Have they ever beaten the Galway Champions? They play Intermediate don't they once they get out of Mayo?

Favourites surely. They seem to stay at that level though, they lost to Four Roads from Roscommon last year in the Intermediate Connacht Championship. It's a pity they don't push on. Mayo and Roscommon winners play in the Connacht Intermediate semi, Galway intermediate winners await in the final.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 11:37:27 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 12, 2013, 11:01:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 12, 2013, 10:06:54 PM
Mayo SHC Final tomorrow as well. Ballyhaunis v Tooreen, 2pm in Ballyhaunis.

Ballyhaunis must be big favs? Have they ever beaten the Galway Champions? They play Intermediate don't they once they get out of Mayo?

Favourites surely. They seem to stay at that level though, they lost to Four Roads from Roscommon last year in the Intermediate Connacht Championship. It's a pity they don't push on. Mayo and Roscommon winners play in the Connacht Intermediate semi, Galway intermediate winners await in the final.

They played the Galway champions one year in the final a day after the Galway champions played their own replayed county final!! Thought if there was going to be a chance that was it.

We beat the Galway champions in the semi. Higgins is their main man, does he still hurl (doubt it) for the County?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: AZOffaly on October 13, 2013, 07:32:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 20, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 19, 2013, 05:12:01 PM
In Tipperary, they have 3 of the 4 semi finalists and surprisingly both finalists from last year are gone already after Drom and Inch followed Sarsfields out the door by losing to Nenagh last weekend.

The confirmed semi finalists are Nenagh Eire Óg, Loughmore-Castleiney (who must be favourites now with all the McGraths) and Borrisoleigh, while Kildangan and Clonoulty-Rossmore must replay their quarter final.

Up in Offaly they are awaiting a final clash between the nouveau riche in Kilcormac-Killoughy and the old monied Birr. Birr beat another old firm side, Saint Rynaghs, in their semi final while KK overcame Clareen, or Sier Kieran.

Well they are 5/2 in PP at the minute, you confident?

Of the 5 that are left, I think Loughmore have as good a chance as any. I wouldn't think the standard is outstanding, and the likes of John and Noel McGrath will be huge for them. Clonoulty would be my other pick of the 5, but maybe that's because I can't imagine Kildangan, Nenagh or Borrisoleigh as senior champions :)

Hope you got on :)
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: waterfordlad on October 13, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Passage won their first ever Waterford senior title today with an amazing finish to beat Ballygunner 3-16 to 3-13. They were 7 points behind in last 10 minutes and some people were leaving early. They got 4 points in a row to come to within 3 points going into injury time. They then got a goal to draw level and then Conor Carey got the winning goal with about 30 seconds to go. Huge support for Passage there and there will be great celebrations there for a while.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 13, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
Quote from: waterfordlad on October 13, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Passage won their first ever Waterford senior title today with an amazing finish to beat Ballygunner 3-16 to 3-13. They were 7 points behind in last 10 minutes and some people were leaving early. They got 4 points in a row to come to within 3 points going into injury time. They then got a goal to draw level and then Conor Carey got the winning goal with about 30 seconds to go. Huge support for Passage there and there will be great celebrations there for a while.


absolutely marvellous for a whole number of reasons not least being all they have been through in Passage village in the past few months.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 13, 2013, 09:13:47 PM
Tooreen won their first title in 10 years, with a 4-10 to 1-6 win over Ballyhaunis. That was unexpected outside of those two places I'm sure.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: ziggy90 on October 14, 2013, 06:16:46 AM
Fullen gaels beat John Mitchels yesterdat in the Warwickshire county final.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: deiseach on October 14, 2013, 08:56:40 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on October 13, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
absolutely marvellous for a whole number of reasons not least being all they have been through in Passage village in the past few months.

+1
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Premier Emperor on October 14, 2013, 09:53:27 AM
Quote from: waterfordlad on October 13, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Passage won their first ever Waterford senior title today with an amazing finish to beat Ballygunner 3-16 to 3-13. They were 7 points behind in last 10 minutes and some people were leaving early. They got 4 points in a row to come to within 3 points going into injury time. They then got a goal to draw level and then Conor Carey got the winning goal with about 30 seconds to go. Huge support for Passage there and there will be great celebrations there for a while.
Why would a lad go for goal with 30 seconds left instead of taking his point?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: waterfordlad on October 14, 2013, 05:30:24 PM
He was right in front of goal unmarked around 14 yard line when ball came to him so was as easy to go for goal as a point. Amazing finish to the game. It reminded me of Offaly v Limerick in 1994.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Premier Emperor on October 21, 2013, 12:19:00 PM
Wexford SHC final
Ferns St Aidan's 1-16 Oulart-The Ballagh 3-12

Carlow SHC final
Mount Leinster Rangers 1-20 St Mullin's 0-11

Westmeath SHC final
Castletown Geoghegan 1-12 St Oliver Plunketts 0-11

Wicklow SHC final
Bray Emmets 0-14 Glenealy 0-17

Oulart nearly beaten by the sound of it!
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on October 21, 2013, 02:31:33 PM
Wil Loughmore's dual ambitions be their downfall?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: theticklemister on October 21, 2013, 04:50:31 PM
Emerald Gaels, Leeds beat Wolfe Tones Liverpool in opening round of British Junior Championship
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on October 28, 2013, 05:41:20 PM
Portumna 3-12 Loughrea 0-14 in the Galway final played this afternoon. 
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Saffrongael on October 28, 2013, 09:13:41 PM
That was some comeback by Na Piarshaigh yesterday
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 05, 2013, 01:24:04 PM
Midleton Cork county champions play the winners of the Clare county final which is being played this Sunday.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Premier Emperor on November 05, 2013, 02:37:18 PM
Great scoring from Conor Lehane.
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/conor-lehane-midleton-1160330-Nov2013/?utm_source=shortlink
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: waterfordlad on November 09, 2013, 09:15:44 AM
Na Piarsaigh v Passage tomorrow so should be a good game. Na Piarsaigh would have to be favourites after winning the Munster club 2 years ago and Passage are missing Noel Connors who is abroad. They seem to have prepared well for it going on interview with Peter Queally in local paper. I just checked TG4 schedule and deferred showing of game is at 3:30 after football match.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Last Man on November 10, 2013, 05:02:46 PM
Quote from: waterfordlad on November 09, 2013, 09:15:44 AM
Na Piarsaigh v Passage tomorrow so should be a good game. Na Piarsaigh would have to be favourites after winning the Munster club 2 years ago and Passage are missing Noel Connors who is abroad. They seem to have prepared well for it going on interview with Peter Queally in local paper. I just checked TG4 schedule and deferred showing of game is at 3:30 after football match.
Better overall team won but Passage showed some fight to keep it so tight. Downes is something to behold, hard to judge on tv but d[dnt seem to be working as hard as the rest of the team. If Dowling and him linked up a bit more they'd be a powerful force.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: waterfordlad on November 10, 2013, 07:23:39 PM
Downes was excellent and I think better team won but as you said Passage did well to keep in it as were under a lot of pressure at times. Na Piarsaigh's forwards were better. Good game for the time of year.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on November 11, 2013, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: waterfordlad on November 10, 2013, 07:23:39 PM
Downes was excellent and I think better team won but as you said Passage did well to keep in it as were under a lot of pressure at times. Na Piarsaigh's forwards were better. Good game for the time of year.

Pretty good game the bits I seen off it.

Was it Downes who popped over the point at the end on his left side and under a good bit of pressure?

IIRC he's a left hander anyway.

I see sixmilebridge won the Clare championship, with Niall Gilligan still on the go, he must be touching 40 by now.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: theskull1 on November 11, 2013, 10:11:48 AM
Wonder how much Clares exertions this year at county level took their toll on those involved? Wasn't there only one Sixmilebridge player on the Clare panel?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on November 11, 2013, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 11, 2013, 10:11:48 AM
Wonder how much Clares exertions this year at county level took their toll on those involved? Wasn't there only one Sixmilebridge player on the Clare panel?

By the looks of it Sixmilebridge had the Morey's one playing and one on the panel, similar to NOF, with 2 possibly.

Clonlara, who Sixmilebridge beat in the semi-final have a good smattering of county players, possibly half a dozen, and you'd wonder if that had a telling impact on them.

Awful colour clash in that final by the looks of the pictures I've seen.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 11, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
Colin Ryan is NOF I think as well as Lynch, that's off the top of my head could be wrong. Do they play Midleton next weekend? Should be good game. Na Piarsaigh ticking along nicely and will be happy enough having disposed of Tipp and Waterford champions already.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2013, 09:35:16 PM
Gilligan still got it by the looks of those highlights. Wonder if any other ai winners stillplaying.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2013, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 11, 2013, 09:35:16 PM
Gilligan still got it by the looks of those highlights. Wonder if any other ai winners stillplaying.

At club level he'd be a serious player, wouldn't like to mark him. Beast of a man, he still taking the frees?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2013, 11:05:43 PM
Only saw the highlights but he hit at least a goal from a free and hit a few from play too and looked sharp.

Na piarsagh look like they've a lot of big strong guys on the team. Could be well suited to this time of year. Whoever beats middleton will have to do a good marking job on lehane though.  Very open munster championship.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Last Man on November 11, 2013, 11:25:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 11, 2013, 11:05:43 PM
Only saw the highlights but he hit at least a goal from a free and hit a few from play too and looked sharp.

Na piarsagh look like they've a lot of big strong guys on the team. Could be well suited to this time of year. Whoever beats middleton will have to do a good marking job on lehane though.  Very open munster championship.
I thought the Na Pairsaigh defense was as good as any team still in it, the stand in full back yesterday has great feet as well as skill and will only improve the half back line when the usual no.3 is back. They'll not cancel Lehane out entirely so it will be up to Downes and co to do the rest.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: waterfordlad on November 12, 2013, 08:46:40 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 11, 2013, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: waterfordlad on November 10, 2013, 07:23:39 PM
Downes was excellent and I think better team won but as you said Passage did well to keep in it as were under a lot of pressure at times. Na Piarsaigh's forwards were better. Good game for the time of year.

Pretty good game the bits I seen off it.

Was it Downes who popped over the point at the end on his left side and under a good bit of pressure?

IIRC he's a left hander anyway.

I see sixmilebridge won the Clare championship, with Niall Gilligan still on the go, he must be touching 40 by now.

Yeah that was some score by Downes. Gilligan is 37 I think and still looks a great player at club level. The conditions were bad for the Clare hurling final looking at Tg4 last night. Hurling at this time of year is different than in the summer with heavy pitches and suits more physical teams.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 12, 2013, 06:31:58 PM
It's not just about stopping Lehane (bit strange saying that giving how impressive his individual display was the last time) however Luke O'Farrell chipped in with 3 or 4 points in the county final at very important times. They also have Cork panelist Brian Hartnett who is capable of causing damage. I think they should get past Sixmilebridge (maybe not) but I think overall Na Piarsaigh should come out of Munster.

This would leave them against Portumna with Loughgiel v OTB, KK or B'Boden. Will be four very good teams at the semi final stages.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2013, 09:47:51 PM
Would portuma be as good as they were a few years ago? Suppose time will tell.

Would like to see otb make the breakthrough from leinster but think b'boden will go through. Munster and leinster very competitive.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Minder on November 17, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
Ballyboden beaten by Mount Leinster Rangers in Leinster semi final.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 17, 2013, 09:13:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2013, 09:47:51 PM
Would portuma be as good as they were a few years ago? Suppose time will tell.

No. Team is probably a bit past it's best now. Obviously Joe Canning is still young but a fair few of the rest are the wrong side of 30 now. Will still be dangerous enough though.

Reckon they will be playing Na Piarsaigh in the semis and they have a young enough team I think so they may have the legs on Portumna at this stage but if it stays tight then Portumna have the experience to win games like that.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: belleaqua on November 18, 2013, 12:42:17 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2013, 09:47:51 PM
Would portuma be as good as they were a few years ago? Suppose time will tell.

Would like to see otb make the breakthrough from leinster but think b'boden will go through. Munster and leinster very competitive.

No - by no means at the standard of their 2 in a row team but still a crafty and experienced side. Lack the pace they had but have put in one huge push this year for a County Title and more. Probably see a couple of retirements after this irrespective of the the All Ireland series results. Wouldn't be at all surprised if they win it but expecting the hunger and ability of other sides left will see them through.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on November 18, 2013, 09:20:08 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 17, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
Ballyboden beaten by Mount Leinster Rangers in Leinster semi final.

That's some win for the Carlow champions, Boden were expecting to do big things in Leinster and beyond, but fell at the first hurdle.

Oulart the Ballagh will surely fancy their chances now, but shouldn't take the Rangers for granted as Boden can testify to..

Lehane wasn't enough for Sixmilebridge who during the bit I was able to watch were susceptible to the odd goal with the No15 for Midleton causing problems for the bridge defence and set up a good chance for Lehane who hit the side netting with it. If the umpire hadn't have been on his toes there could have been a bit of consternation as the ball ended up inside the net because the side netting hadn't been tied down. He rightly stood his ground and gave it as wide.

Why can simple things like this not be sorted and fixed before the game starts and this was no club ground somewhere, it was Pairc Ui Chaoimh.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2013, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 18, 2013, 09:20:08 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 17, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
Ballyboden beaten by Mount Leinster Rangers in Leinster semi final.

That's some win for the Carlow champions, Boden were expecting to do big things in Leinster and beyond, but fell at the first hurdle.

Oulart the Ballagh will surely fancy their chances now, but shouldn't take the Rangers for granted as Boden can testify to..

Lehane wasn't enough for Sixmilebridge who during the bit I was able to watch were susceptible to the odd goal with the No15 for Midleton causing problems for the bridge defence and set up a good chance for Lehane who hit the side netting with it. If the umpire hadn't have been on his toes there could have been a bit of consternation as the ball ended up inside the net because the side netting hadn't been tied down. He rightly stood his ground and gave it as wide.

Why can simple things like this not be sorted and fixed before the game starts and this was no club ground somewhere, it was Pairc Ui Chaoimh.

Mount Leinster Rangers won the All Ireland Intermediate final and have made a massive step up in class, Ken Hogan was saying yesterday that they were hosting the feile last year and they came with a very strong team and wiped away most of the clubs including his own club, all the kids have hurling bags with at least 3 hurls in it. Stuck between all the big hurling counties is paying big dividends I'd say
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on November 18, 2013, 01:23:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2013, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 18, 2013, 09:20:08 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 17, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
Ballyboden beaten by Mount Leinster Rangers in Leinster semi final.

That's some win for the Carlow champions, Boden were expecting to do big things in Leinster and beyond, but fell at the first hurdle.

Oulart the Ballagh will surely fancy their chances now, but shouldn't take the Rangers for granted as Boden can testify to..

Lehane wasn't enough for Sixmilebridge who during the bit I was able to watch were susceptible to the odd goal with the No15 for Midleton causing problems for the bridge defence and set up a good chance for Lehane who hit the side netting with it. If the umpire hadn't have been on his toes there could have been a bit of consternation as the ball ended up inside the net because the side netting hadn't been tied down. He rightly stood his ground and gave it as wide.

Why can simple things like this not be sorted and fixed before the game starts and this was no club ground somewhere, it was Pairc Ui Chaoimh.

Mount Leinster Rangers won the All Ireland Intermediate final and have made a massive step up in class, Ken Hogan was saying yesterday that they were hosting the feile last year and they came with a very strong team and wiped away most of the clubs including his own club, all the kids have hurling bags with at least 3 hurls in it. Stuck between all the big hurling counties is paying big dividends I'd say

Plus club hurling in Kilkenny giving them regular competitive games at a high level.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: deiseach on November 18, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
It really has been a banner (pun unintended) year for hurling. Well done to Mount Leinster Rangers on reinforcing that.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Minder on November 24, 2013, 03:10:12 PM
Na Piarsaigh look like they will be hard to work in All Ireland Semi
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
3 of the 4 All Ireland semi finalists now know, with the 4th TBC next weekend, what way are the odds fixed now?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2013, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
3 of the 4 All Ireland semi finalists now know, with the 4th TBC next weekend, what way are the odds fixed now?

Portumna favs 11/10 Loughgiel 10/3 OTB 4/1 as is Na Piarsaigh with Mount Rangers sitting on 20/1!!
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Bord na Mona man on November 25, 2013, 11:41:49 AM
Loughgiel are the best team still in it, but they've been going at it for a few years now and may come unstuck against a fresher team.

Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 03:30:31 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 25, 2013, 11:41:49 AM
Loughgiel are the best team still in it, but they've been going at it for a few years now and may come unstuck against a fresher team.

Na Piarsaigh @ 4/1 are a big price.  Serious outfit and will give Portumna their fill of it.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 03:30:31 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 25, 2013, 11:41:49 AM
Loughgiel are the best team still in it, but they've been going at it for a few years now and may come unstuck against a fresher team.

Na Piarsaigh @ 4/1 are a big price.  Serious outfit and will give Portumna their fill of it.

Do you think they have improved since Loughgiel played them?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 03:30:31 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 25, 2013, 11:41:49 AM
Loughgiel are the best team still in it, but they've been going at it for a few years now and may come unstuck against a fresher team.

Na Piarsaigh @ 4/1 are a big price.  Serious outfit and will give Portumna their fill of it.

Do you think they have improved since Loughgiel played them?

Yes, they have a more mature look about them now.  Always looking to pick the right ball etc.  Can mix it as well.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Minder on November 25, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 03:30:31 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 25, 2013, 11:41:49 AM
Loughgiel are the best team still in it, but they've been going at it for a few years now and may come unstuck against a fresher team.

Na Piarsaigh @ 4/1 are a big price.  Serious outfit and will give Portumna their fill of it.

Do you think they have improved since Loughgiel played them?

Yes, they have a more mature look about them now.  Always looking to pick the right ball etc.  Can mix it as well.

Yeah if I was backing anyone it would be Na Piarsaigh.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 25, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 03:30:31 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 25, 2013, 11:41:49 AM
Loughgiel are the best team still in it, but they've been going at it for a few years now and may come unstuck against a fresher team.

Na Piarsaigh @ 4/1 are a big price.  Serious outfit and will give Portumna their fill of it.

Do you think they have improved since Loughgiel played them?

Yes, they have a more mature look about them now.  Always looking to pick the right ball etc.  Can mix it as well.

Yeah if I was backing anyone it would be Na Piarsaigh.

Loughgiel in fairness have also improved on their All Ireland i think. This year they have seem to have the ambition again so hopefully they can do the business in the semi final
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Last Man on November 26, 2013, 12:11:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 25, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 03:30:31 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 25, 2013, 11:41:49 AM
Loughgiel are the best team still in it, but they've been going at it for a few years now and may come unstuck against a fresher team.

Na Piarsaigh @ 4/1 are a big price.  Serious outfit and will give Portumna their fill of it.
Was talkin to a man from Portumna who reckoned Na Pairsaigh were soft and they fully expected to be meeting the Bridge in their next match. Not so it would seem. I like the look of them I have to say, organised and resolute in defence but like any club team it all depends if the special talents in attack show on the day.


Do you think they have improved since Loughgiel played them?

Yes, they have a more mature look about them now.  Always looking to pick the right ball etc.  Can mix it as well.

Yeah if I was backing anyone it would be Na Piarsaigh.

Loughgiel in fairness have also improved on their All Ireland i think. This year they have seem to have the ambition again so hopefully they can do the business in the semi final
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on November 26, 2013, 10:50:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 25, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 25, 2013, 03:30:31 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 25, 2013, 11:41:49 AM
Loughgiel are the best team still in it, but they've been going at it for a few years now and may come unstuck against a fresher team.

Na Piarsaigh @ 4/1 are a big price.  Serious outfit and will give Portumna their fill of it.

Do you think they have improved since Loughgiel played them?

Yes, they have a more mature look about them now.  Always looking to pick the right ball etc.  Can mix it as well.

Yeah if I was backing anyone it would be Na Piarsaigh.

Loughgiel in fairness have also improved on their All Ireland i think. This year they have seem to have the ambition again so hopefully they can do the business in the semi final

Do you think so? I haven't been all that impressed with them, but they've been doing all they needed to do in Antrim and Ulster and will hope to raise it up a few cogs come January and February, some players may hit a bit of form by then alright.

Ball winning forwards IMO will be their achilles heel if they get a wet, shitty day in Parnell or Athlone as they'll not be getting the same time or space to pick out the forwards as they like to.

A good dry sod will be an advantage to them, although Oulart the Ballagh (if they get over MLR, big IF) aren't overly big either by the looks of them.

Is Jim Nelson still guiding from the sidelines or has he stepped down?

I've liked the cut of Na Pairsigh of what I've seen of them this year and can see them get over Portumna in a semi-final.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2013, 05:47:45 PM
Poor auld OTB. Golden opportunity today.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: waterfordlad on December 01, 2013, 09:53:58 PM
Fair play to Mount Leinster Rangers. I didn't see the game today but was a great win for them. Oulart The Ballagh must be sickened though. They did the hard work winning away to Kilkenny and Offaly Champions only to fall in the final again.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: imtommygunn on December 01, 2013, 11:15:29 PM
Only saw the first half. Otb looked better hurlers but that mount leinster team are a big physical outfit. Anything otb got they really had to fight for.

Loughgiel wouldn't be a massive side and may struggle with the physicality.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Catch and Kick on December 01, 2013, 11:24:18 PM
Rangers will give Loughiel a lot to worry about. Some spirit in the Club. Ferocious competitors in football too and always hard to beat even though they don't really train for it..
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2013, 11:24:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 01, 2013, 11:15:29 PM
Only saw the first half. Otb looked better hurlers but that mount leinster team are a big physical outfit. Anything otb got they really had to fight for.

Loughgiel wouldn't be a massive side and may struggle with the physicality.

Tommy stick work wise they weren't great, plenty ball and a lot of poor wides in first half. Good handling and what the didn't have stick work wise they made up for it in determination which on a greasy heavy pitch is a big factor, weather should be the same come Feb, just think Loughgiel have that mojo back, I'll be backing them, be good to see the price on that.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: imtommygunn on December 01, 2013, 11:38:01 PM
I thought that too mr but stickwork wise otb are pretty good and still got beat.

Loughgiel probably should be favourites but it's a difficult enough game. Guess they all are at this stage.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Sean3 on December 02, 2013, 04:16:29 PM
Malachy Clerkin in today's Irish Times
Presumably a note of congratulations will be read out at the next meeting of the Cork County Board.
:)
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:25:08 PM
Quote from: Sean3 on December 02, 2013, 04:16:29 PM
Malachy Clerkin in today's Irish Times
Presumably a note of congratulations will be read out at the next meeting of the Cork County Board.
:)
brilliant.  ;D
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: laoislad on December 02, 2013, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: waterfordlad on December 01, 2013, 09:53:58 PM
Fair play to Mount Leinster Rangers. I didn't see the game today but was a great win for them. Oulart The Ballagh must be sickened though. They did the hard work winning away to Kilkenny and Offaly Champions only to fall in the final again.

Absolutely brilliant for Mount Leinster Rangers. Delighted for them.
Been some year for hurling.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 09:16:21 AM
God lads, don't be thinking that Mount Leinster Rangers are just a team of big mollockers, they've provided the backbone of a very good Carlow team for the last few years, the same Carlow team who've given Antrim their fill of it in recent times.

Loughguile will probably go in as favourites due to their previous experience at this level but unlike some other teams from more traditional hurling counties who maybe made the mistake of taking Loughguile for granted, Mount Leinster Rangers won't be making that mistake once they get the celebrations out of their system.

IMO Loughguile will need to find a level above what I've seen so far from them which isn't beyond them as I think they've been doing just enough to get through in Ulster. Turning up the momentum for the fourth time in four years come christmas time will be a mental challenge as much as anything for them.
PJ will need to work the oracle again.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: laoislad on December 03, 2013, 10:49:26 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 09:16:21 AM
God lads, don't be thinking that Mount Leinster Rangers are just a team of big mollockers, they've provided the backbone of a very good Carlow team for the last few years, the same Carlow team who've given Antrim their fill of it in recent times.




Ah here,that's hardly a barometer of how good they are  ;)
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 11:48:22 AM
Quote from: laoislad on December 03, 2013, 10:49:26 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 09:16:21 AM
God lads, don't be thinking that Mount Leinster Rangers are just a team of big mollockers, they've provided the backbone of a very good Carlow team for the last few years, the same Carlow team who've given Antrim their fill of it in recent times.




Ah here,that's hardly a barometer of how good they are  ;)

Is it the underage Carlow teams that play in Kilkenny leagues or do the seniors also play in the senior leagues?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Catch and Kick on December 03, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Carlow senior hurling teams play in the Kilkenny JUNIOR hurling league only. And don't necessarily win it either!
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 12:57:23 PM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on December 03, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Carlow senior hurling teams play in the Kilkenny JUNIOR hurling league only. And don't necessarily win it either!

Shows you that the Carlow Champions beat the best of Leinster including teams that sit at the top table in Kilkenny!! Best hurling result this year, forget Antrim getting to All Ireland under 21 final, forget Clare blowing all the teams away at under 21 and senior and the other great results in hurling this year
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: orangeman on December 03, 2013, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 12:57:23 PM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on December 03, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Carlow senior hurling teams play in the Kilkenny JUNIOR hurling league only. And don't necessarily win it either!

Shows you that the Carlow Champions beat the best of Leinster including teams that sit at the top table in Kilkenny!! Best hurling result this year, forget Antrim getting to All Ireland under 21 final, forget Clare blowing all the teams away at under 21 and senior and the other great results in hurling this year


Not sure about that. Antrim getting to the final in the 21s was incredible.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: deiseach on December 03, 2013, 03:46:08 PM
Quote from: Sean3 on December 02, 2013, 04:16:29 PM
Malachy Clerkin in today's Irish Times
Presumably a note of congratulations will be read out at the next meeting of the Cork County Board.
:)

Who knew Jedward could do opera?
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 02:05:06 AM
Quote from: orangeman on December 03, 2013, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 12:57:23 PM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on December 03, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Carlow senior hurling teams play in the Kilkenny JUNIOR hurling league only. And don't necessarily win it either!

Shows you that the Carlow Champions beat the best of Leinster including teams that sit at the top table in Kilkenny!! Best hurling result this year, forget Antrim getting to All Ireland under 21 final, forget Clare blowing all the teams away at under 21 and senior and the other great results in hurling this year


Not sure about that. Antrim getting to the final in the 21s was incredible.

If it was planned our part of an over-arching development goal I could believe more but when all those stories about huge swathes of the panel not even bothering to turn up for training the Thursday before the Wexford game are taken into account it's pretty clear Antrim reaching the U21 final was an outlier that will probably have little if any impact on anything else, certainly unless it proves a wake-up call for players and management alike.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on December 17, 2013, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 02:05:06 AM
Quote from: orangeman on December 03, 2013, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 12:57:23 PM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on December 03, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Carlow senior hurling teams play in the Kilkenny JUNIOR hurling league only. And don't necessarily win it either!

Shows you that the Carlow Champions beat the best of Leinster including teams that sit at the top table in Kilkenny!! Best hurling result this year, forget Antrim getting to All Ireland under 21 final, forget Clare blowing all the teams away at under 21 and senior and the other great results in hurling this year


Not sure about that. Antrim getting to the final in the 21s was incredible.

If it was planned our part of an over-arching development goal I could believe more but when all those stories about huge swathes of the panel not even bothering to turn up for training the Thursday before the Wexford game are taken into account it's pretty clear Antrim reaching the U21 final was an outlier that will probably have little if any impact on anything else, certainly unless it proves a wake-up call for players and management alike.
just because they weren't doing a whole pile of collective training doesn't mean they were sitting scratching their holes by the fireside.
If anything it gives credence to the fact its hard to beat good, regular club games which most of these lads were getting throughout the summer.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: Syferus on December 18, 2013, 12:05:29 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 17, 2013, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 02:05:06 AM
Quote from: orangeman on December 03, 2013, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 12:57:23 PM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on December 03, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Carlow senior hurling teams play in the Kilkenny JUNIOR hurling league only. And don't necessarily win it either!

Shows you that the Carlow Champions beat the best of Leinster including teams that sit at the top table in Kilkenny!! Best hurling result this year, forget Antrim getting to All Ireland under 21 final, forget Clare blowing all the teams away at under 21 and senior and the other great results in hurling this year


Not sure about that. Antrim getting to the final in the 21s was incredible.

If it was planned our part of an over-arching development goal I could believe more but when all those stories about huge swathes of the panel not even bothering to turn up for training the Thursday before the Wexford game are taken into account it's pretty clear Antrim reaching the U21 final was an outlier that will probably have little if any impact on anything else, certainly unless it proves a wake-up call for players and management alike.
just because they weren't doing a whole pile of collective training doesn't mean they were sitting scratching their holes by the fireside.
If anything it gives credence to the fact its hard to beat good, regular club games which most of these lads were getting throughout the summer.

Then why did those club games stand to them when Clare gave the a mind-numbing pounding the next day out?

To me getting to the AI final shows they're natural talent in Antrim but the manner of getting there shows that the attitude and structures are all wrong.
Title: Re: county championships 2013
Post by: johnneycool on December 18, 2013, 11:46:34 AM
Quote from: Syferus on December 18, 2013, 12:05:29 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 17, 2013, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 02:05:06 AM
Quote from: orangeman on December 03, 2013, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 12:57:23 PM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on December 03, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Carlow senior hurling teams play in the Kilkenny JUNIOR hurling league only. And don't necessarily win it either!

Shows you that the Carlow Champions beat the best of Leinster including teams that sit at the top table in Kilkenny!! Best hurling result this year, forget Antrim getting to All Ireland under 21 final, forget Clare blowing all the teams away at under 21 and senior and the other great results in hurling this year


Not sure about that. Antrim getting to the final in the 21s was incredible.

If it was planned our part of an over-arching development goal I could believe more but when all those stories about huge swathes of the panel not even bothering to turn up for training the Thursday before the Wexford game are taken into account it's pretty clear Antrim reaching the U21 final was an outlier that will probably have little if any impact on anything else, certainly unless it proves a wake-up call for players and management alike.
just because they weren't doing a whole pile of collective training doesn't mean they were sitting scratching their holes by the fireside.
If anything it gives credence to the fact its hard to beat good, regular club games which most of these lads were getting throughout the summer.

Then why did those club games stand to them when Clare gave the a mind-numbing pounding the next day out?

To me getting to the AI final shows they're natural talent in Antrim but the manner of getting there shows that the attitude and structures are all wrong.

Clare U-21's gave Galway, Tipp and Cork mind-numbing poundings as well. Questions must surely be asked of their collective training sessions as well, not to mention Wexford's who couldn't beat poor old Antrim who only had a dozen or so at training.

With the current structures in place club hurling will always be king in Antrim, once you win the Antrim club championship you're more often than not one big game away from an AI final, they're miles away from anything like that in county terms.
Players know this and hence the lack of interest in county hurling. It doesn't mean they're poor hurlers.

Are the structures wrong in Antrim or in the AI series, either U-21 or senior?