Just seen this through twitter, what is the reasoning for this????
Those are the two acts which I thoroughly enjoyed the most.
I remember the old quiz format in the 1980s. It was like watching paint dry. I hear they updated it to a table/pub quiz format, but that's still not a great spectator sport. If they used a bit of imagination (and investment) and used electronic buzzers and a permanently visible electronic scoreboard it could be presented like a TV quiz show with a time limit. It'd be a whole lot more interesting for the audience. Should be achievable, there's only ever one Scór event per weekend in each county, so you'd only need one set of equipment per county.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 19, 2013, 05:40:46 PM
I remember the old quiz format in the 1980s. It was like watching paint dry. I hear they updated it to a table/pub quiz format, but that's still not a great spectator sport. If they used a bit of imagination (and investment) and used electronic buzzers and a permanently visible electronic scoreboard it could be presented like a TV quiz show with a time limit. It'd be a whole lot more interesting for the audience. Should be achievable, there's only ever one Scór event per weekend in each county, so you'd only need one set of equipment per county.
It is done now where a team consists of three players and each person gets asked three questions at different stages and also team questions. You write down the answers on a sheet. The audience however still can answer the questions themselves as the questions are done over a microphone.
Bk a few years aho each contestant had to walk to the microphone and give an answer; half the time the answer was
" I dont know"
Lol
This year the individulas were written but the team questions had to answered at the mike. The reason the novelty are gone is that Liam O'Neil claimed many were racist and sectarian in tone and were full of toilet humour. That seems a tad over the top.
The simple fact is that the GAA want rid of Scor completely and the best way is to remove the two copmpetitions that had the most competitors. What is left now is a glorified feis.
What's the difference between Scor and Fleadh?
None now!
Any official press release?
I dunno about the rest of the counties but the biggest amount of competitors weere in the quiz section.
This is a disgrace.
I enjoy the Scor but it goes on far too long. By removing the quiz and novelty act they are also cutting down on the time. I agree with previous posters, with a little imagination and very little cost the Quiz could have been kept.
Novelty act has always been hit and miss. It's probably the most difficult to do. Personally I would keep them two and get rid of the recitation. The elocution lessons brigade do my f**king head in. I also think that having Rince Foirne and Rince Set needs to be looked at, there is no need for both!!
Whole thing smacks a little of a former Communist Pioneer movement anyway. Anyone wishing to get ahead in the GAA has to do their time in Socr it seems.
Quote from: Feckitt on August 20, 2013, 12:50:15 PM
I enjoy the Scor but it goes on far too long. By removing the quiz and novelty act they are also cutting down on the time. I agree with previous posters, with a little imagination and very little cost the Quiz could have been kept.
Novelty act has always been hit and miss. It's probably the most difficult to do. Personally I would keep them two and get rid of the recitation. The elocution lessons brigade do my f**king head in. I also think that having Rince Foirne and Rince Set needs to be looked at, there is no need for both!!
Only three clubs took part in the Rince Foirne in the whole of Connacht in 2013. Yet around 25-30 quiz teams took part. Makes no sense.
I think this is a very poor and short-sighted decision. I agree that there are improvements that could and should be made to both events. However, the thing about these events that made them special for me was the fact that they brought individuals into clubs that had no skills in football. These people may never have been good enough players to get on any team, many had no inclination to get onto any team. The Novelty Act and Quiz gave them an opportunity to represent their parish and club. Many off these people went on to organise fund raisers in clubs and became an important cog in the background support structure of clubs. As an organisation or club it can't be all about the 'first team'.
surely the quiz gives the average GAA person the best chance of taking part in a Scór event?
especially those with no musical, dancing, acting or singing abilities
Quote from: neilthemac on August 20, 2013, 03:45:42 PM
surely the quiz gives the average GAA person the best chance of taking part in a Scór event?
especially those with no musical, dancing, acting or singing abilities
Exactly, except the Novelty Act. That also gave those of us with
'no musical, dancing, acting or singing abilities' a day out.
Novelty acts were always hit and miss all right. I seem to remember there being a rule against vulgarity, so enforcing that would seem to be a better approach than dropping the whole thing. Maybe get clubs to submit scripts in advance to stop any dirt getting on to the stage.
I always got the impression that this was to keep alive the tradition of the mummers. It'd be a shame to completely lose it.
We (bunch of 14/15 year old lads doing nothing else) decided to enter the novelty act one year.
Only problem was we didn't have an act, a script or even any rehearsals. Somehow one of the lads persuaded us by telling us he had seen this play once which was funny and we let him persuade us to enter. There were no other entrants, and we had no show, but we persuaded the club to let us go ahead into the West County or whatever it was.
We got our friend to describe the play he saw and we drafted a script. We decided to change it so it would be at least a bit original, but it was so bad ('get the Garett carrot gun Garrett' - being the worst line I remember) that we decided to stick to exactly the play our mate described.
We actually got through the West County and with more practice off we went to the County Finals.
We then watched with horror as the act before us put on the exact show we were going to do. We all looked at our mate and he laughed awkwardly and said 'oh yea, that was who I saw do the play'.
Cue Father Ted Eurovision style last minute switch. The line 'get the Garrett carrot gun Garrett' got its day out.
I think I am still banned from Scór in the club.
Ill beat ye muppet for worst Scor performance......
During Scor na nOg I was doig the solo singing and decided to do the Ballad of Aidan McAnespie, I forgot the words and said ' f**k sake' over the microphone into the crowded Glenullin hall. Crowd in stiches while the judges were stoney faced. Oul hoorbags!!
Quote from: theticklemister on August 20, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
Ill beat ye muppet for worst Scor performance......
During Scor na nOg I was doig the solo singing and decided to do the Ballad of Aidan McAnespie, I forgot the words and said ' f**k sake' over the microphone into the crowded Glenullin hall. Crowd in stiches while the judges were stoney faced. Oul hoorbags!!
;D ;D
Thank God youtube wasn't around then.
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2013, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on August 20, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
Ill beat ye muppet for worst Scor performance......
During Scor na nOg I was doig the solo singing and decided to do the Ballad of Aidan McAnespie, I forgot the words and said ' f**k sake' over the microphone into the crowded Glenullin hall. Crowd in stiches while the judges were stoney faced. Oul hoorbags!!
;D ;D
Thank God youtube wasn't around then.
Only about 13 years ago; im sure someone has it on video.
I fear someone might pull it out in years to come similar to the 'Brolly/Tyrone b**tards film' to discredit me!!
Anyone who would like the novelty act and quiz back in scor, please like and share this page on Facebook and try to get as much supporters as possible.
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Eh, the BBC story refers to the "extension of the quiz", not abolition.
I've never been to the Scor, but from what I read on this article, the novelty act doesn't seem like a great loss.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-23768687
Terrible decision. All for a few mens personal preference.
Quote from: JP on August 22, 2013, 10:26:20 AM
Terrible decision. All for a few mens personal preference.
By the looks of it Jarlath Burns is putting his fingers in more pies......
Just because there were only 3 clubs in rince foirne from that province does not mean it should be cut instead. In our county alone there are nearly 20 rince foirne teams. Clearly there is not much passion for dancing in Connaught.
"At the All-Ireland finals in Londonderry earlier this year"
Fcukin BBC!!
Quote from: screenexile on August 22, 2013, 11:10:14 AM
"At the All-Ireland finals in Londonderry earlier this year"
Fcukin BBC!!
Thats all the rage these days screen exile among all the politicans in Derry/Londonderry and everyone uses this word which is worse......... LegenDerry
Connacht Scór committee resigned en bloc tonight. This story is growing legs as its the Grassroots taking on the highest levels of the GAA.The decision to scrap both competition was solely the idea of one man...Liam O'Neill. He rode roughshod over every suggestion he was given. Obviously the man is still smarting over a question he missed in the past and this is his revenge!
Quote from: Oldira on August 23, 2013, 10:44:21 AM
Connacht Scór committee resigned en bloc tonight. This story is growing legs as its the Grassroots taking on the highest levels of the GAA.The decision to scrap both competition was solely the idea of one man...Liam O'Neill. He rode roughshod over every suggestion he was given. Obviously the man is still smarting over a question he missed in the past and this is his revenge!
Has the quiz gone or what??
Victory to the people, death to Jarlath Burns.
Bit harsh there tickle.
I know there is at least one county that is going to run the novelty actvat least a county level. Surely common sense will prevail and thr decision will be reversed!!!
I've seen a lot of novelty acts at county and Ulster level and they are mostly crap. The same tired old jokes rehashed all the time, unbearable stuff.
I did the Scór quiz for the guts of a decade and am not surprised it has been separated. The dancers and the musicians who make up most of the audience find the quiz boring.
The two dance categories, balad group, instrumental music and solo singing are similar enough that they will attract people who will be happy enough to sit and watch what will be a nights entertainment for them. It wouldn't be my cup of tea but everyone has their personal preferences.
The right call in my view.
Quote from: amallon on August 23, 2013, 03:33:49 PM
I've seen a lot of novelty acts at county and Ulster level and they are mostly crap. The same tired old jokes rehashed all the time, unbearable stuff.
I did the Scór quiz for the guts of a decade and am not surprised it has been separated. The dancers and the musicians who make up most of the audience find the quiz boring.
The two dance categories, balad group, instrumental music and solo singing are similar enough that they will attract people who will be happy enough to sit and watch what will be a nights entertainment for them. It wouldn't be my cup of tea but everyone has their personal preferences.
The right call in my view.
I find the recitation boring but would not be in favour of scrapping it. In fairness any written format quiz is very boring for a spectator which is why the quiz should go back to an oral one with 5 seconds to answer any question. That would speed the thing up.
Quote from: Oldira on August 23, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: amallon on August 23, 2013, 03:33:49 PM
I've seen a lot of novelty acts at county and Ulster level and they are mostly crap. The same tired old jokes rehashed all the time, unbearable stuff.
I did the Scór quiz for the guts of a decade and am not surprised it has been separated. The dancers and the musicians who make up most of the audience find the quiz boring.
The two dance categories, balad group, instrumental music and solo singing are similar enough that they will attract people who will be happy enough to sit and watch what will be a nights entertainment for them. It wouldn't be my cup of tea but everyone has their personal preferences.
The right call in my view.
I find the recitation boring but would not be in favour of scrapping it. In fairness any written format quiz is very boring for a spectator which is why the quiz should go back to an oral one with 5 seconds to answer any question. That would speed the thing up.
I have also participated in the quiz for as long as I care to remember. I think that the decision to do away with the oral answers was to do with the fact that clubs were struggling to get people who were willing to walk to a microphone in the middle of a stage in a packed hall and make an eejit of themselves by getting a simple question wrong.
I haven't been involved in scór for 5 or 6 years now and I was only ever involved in the instrumental music section but I did enjoy watching the novelty acts. Being honest by the time the quiz came around I was just wanting to hear whether we had gotten through to the next round but at the same time I did learn a few facts here and there!
Scór na nÓg isn't far off, kids who have started into their novelty act rehearsals now won't get their chance to act it out. Why is this decision only being made now? If people had these opinions on it before, why didn't they get it abolished sooner (as in after the scór 2013 finals...about 4 months ago)?
Scór competitors, clubs which participate in any aspect of scór and club cultural officers should have been consulted about this decision.
Between this and the fact that certain clubs always seem to get through rounds no matter what (maybe not the case in every county) to someone who wasn't a judge changing the score sheet so a certain club could get through to the next round I have to say I'm glad I'm not part of this farce anymore.
I agree with the decision to remove both the quiz agus the novelty act from the scor, neither being suited to the the scor format. Novelty Acts are always crap and there are much better alternatives for a GAA based quiz. The recitation is also pure dung and that should go too.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on August 23, 2013, 10:20:13 PM
I agree with the decision to remove both the quiz agus the novelty act from the scor, neither being suited to the the scor format. Novelty Acts are always crap and there are much better alternatives for a GAA based quiz. The recitation is also pure dung and that should go too.
In Derry over the past few years (i missed this years) in Scor there have been on average 2 acts in for the novelty section. Glen always seemed to win but they deserved it and overall they play a massive part in all the sections. The quiz section in Derry has massive interest with a qualifying round to get to the final 4/5 teams for the Scor final night. Of all the people I know who go to the Scor their big interest is in the quiz. I do think it is not long enough however.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on August 23, 2013, 10:20:13 PM
I agree with the decision to remove both the quiz agus the novelty act from the scor, neither being suited to the the scor format. Novelty Acts are always crap and there are much better alternatives for a GAA based quiz. The recitation is also pure dung and that should go too.
Ah sure the crap the all thing.
This was not a decision based on the ethos of the GAA. It was very much a top down decision with little or not consultation with people at the ground level. I personally don't get much enjoyment in watching the dancing. To be honest both dance competitions look the same to me. However, there are those that do and will attend the events to watch it. The same with the novelty act and the quiz, taking them away can only negatively effect attendance and put the future of the scor in doubt.