Hi all,
I'm currently trying to gauge if there is a market for a GAA game like Subbuteo.
Considering the 'techno world' we live in today with all the computers, consoles etc. is the game/boardgame extinct?
I believe strongly that i have a great game, but unsure whether to go ahead with prototype.
Any views and opinions would be welcomed.
Thanks
I was reading recently that the woman who started the Discovering Ireland board game made real good money from it, and it still sells heavily to this day. She took her idea to all the big companies who turned her down, so she just made it herself. Board games still sell, go into any toy shop and you will see loads. There arent enough with an 'Irish angle', and if you get it right you could have a hit. I don't think Subbuteo is the way to go though, but Good luck!
Thanks Feckitt!
Subbuteo is the closest thing i can compare it to, this is much better though! 8)
Seriously though, i'd love to push forward with the game, but a little unsure about which direction to go
How do you solo the ball? Or bounce it? How do you score points? Can the players start mouthing to their opponents? Can they bite them if they wish? Can they dive? Would it be more beneficial to have a blanket defence or should they put the foot back into football? Do you have hawkeye set up? Is the referee blind? Are foreign sports allowed on your pitch? Are resources spread evenly or does one team get 7 million? Do you really think this game is a good idea? Would you make a proper GAA computer game instead?
I would imagine the main issue around a computer game is the amount of investment it would take for a limited market.
I'm very confident the game provides excellent gameplay for all age groups whilst providing as near to real life as it can be.
From i was a small child, all i ever wanted was some sort of game to replicate the thrill of Gaelic Football.
I'm not saying i have something completely innovative, but as such there isn't anything on the market like it.
How would a subbuteo type game work with GAA? The players would have to hold the ball as well? Be a hoor to count four flicks as well :) Or are you basically just talking about a Subbuteo soccer game with 15 players and county colours? What about point taking?
Isn't there already a GAA PlayStation game?
He's talking about a subbuteo type game. Jaysus I loved subbuteo. I saw it in Argos last week and was nearly going to buy it.
You are asking the wrong people. You need to be asking 10, 11 and 12 year olds what they think. They are the people that will or won't be wanting this game. Most of them I feel would laugh at Subbutteo, because lets face it, it's from the 70's!!! Some sort of traditional board game could definitely work, but i honestly don't think a play action type game like Subbutteo can compete with computer games.
Bring back the 'Pairc' GAA board game.
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could you make a hurling version of table football I wonder?
As the man says there's plenty of room in the market for board games. Families play them all the time, they bring young and old together in a way that I don't think computer games can.
Also the new games that have taken the place of Subbuteo are popular. And as I said Subbuteo itself is apparently making a roaring comeback.
I remember my Da made me a table for Subbuteo, and Santy brought me the world cup edition. Scoreboard, Grandstand and Floodlights and all. Da made the table so that I could permanently mount the scoreboard, lights and stand. Put up the boundary fences as well. A group of about 6 of us in the local street used to play once or twice a week, rotating venues. Every 6 weeks you'd host a round robin of games, 6 total I think it was. Brilliant times it was.
My venue, out in the garage, was the equivalent of Wembley. At one stage a couple of years later, I got the Astroturf pitch as a present. That upped the ante altogether. Now I had a real home town advantage :)
What about a Championship Manager type computer game?
- How many changes do you make to your dummy team released on Wednesday night?
- Do you enforce a drink ban during the O'Byrne Cup and risk a player revolt?
- Your star player's stag party is on this weekend in Kilkenny but you have scheduled a training camp and challenge match at Carton House, do you plough ahead with your plans and drop any player who goes on the stag?
- Joe McQuillan has been appointed as referee for your opening championship derby against your big rivals, do you tell Martin Breheny in the build up that he is the finest referee in Ireland or do wait until the match and send out your Maor Foirne to shout and scream at him?
- Joe Brolly criticises your tactics, do you boycott The Sunday Game in response?
- Can you persuade your county sponsors to take on five of your panel who have the sum total of 100 Leaving Cert points between them for the summer or do you risk losing them to America before the start of the qualifiers?
- The cash strapped County Board have been fined because you forgot to wear the hi-viz Bainisteoir bib, do you offer to forgo your 'renumeration' for a week in order to cover the fine or do you risk the wrath of the dinosaurs on the central executive?
- The ex-county star from yesteryear writing in the local newspaper has called for your resignation after your non-attendance at the SFL Division 4 relegation playoff, do you go on local radio telling the old fart to mind his own business and risk alienating the supporters who still worship him?
The possibilities are endless.
There actually was a 'hurling manager' type game released a few years ago on the PC. It had promise.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 25, 2013, 03:42:11 PM
There actually was a 'hurling manager' type game released a few years ago on the PC. It had promise.
TELL US MORE......
Janey I can't remember muich more. It was like Championship Manager. You trained your team, entered competitions, it played games like Championship Manager. It had promise, but was raw, like the older Championship Manager versions. It wasn't terribly slick, and there were lots of scores like 7-4 to 3-1 and things like that.
I bought it in my local centra. I'll see if I can dig up something..
This is it...
http://www.tailteanngames.com/ (http://www.tailteanngames.com/)
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 25, 2013, 02:47:50 PM
How would a subbuteo type game work with GAA? The players would have to hold the ball as well? Be a hoor to count four flicks as well :) Or are you basically just talking about a Subbuteo soccer game with 15 players and county colours? What about point taking?
I loved Subbuteo myself AZ and had regular tournaments with friends!
Firstly, the players don't hold the ball but the 'technique/action' using the players allows for accurate and realistic, passing, point taking and of course rattling the onion bag. Also gives fans of dead ball kicking a great thrill!
My father designed this game for me and my brothers about 20 years ago. He actually took it to someone who felt it was a great game but because it was aimed at the GAA, it wouldn't be worthwhile.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 25, 2013, 03:26:19 PM
As the man says there's plenty of room in the market for board games. Families play them all the time, they bring young and old together in a way that I don't think computer games can.
You've obviously never seen me and my granny playing Fifa 2012.
I remember playing a game like subueteo when I was a lad but the ball was magnetic and the players had magnets round their bases. It allowed you to play passes in the air or along the ground. Can't for the life of me remember what it was called.
Have a look for Aussie rules or Rugby board games. That might give some ideas. I did a quick search and didn't find much but you might be able to dig deeper.
Make sure to bring out a puke football version for the Ulster lads. It will sell like hot cakes.
All I can say is that I'd love to play it. I loved Subbutteo too but unlike AZ I had no table to put the pitch on. We played it on the floor which was grand but the players kept getting squashed. A lot of the joy in Subbutteo was collecting the extra stuff, like the throw-in takers, the scoreboard, the yellow footballs etc. I remember my own pride and joy was a pristine Russian team in their CCCP red jerseys.
No subbuteo game was complete without the floodlights, always installed and switched on even though you were playing in the middle of the day! ;D
Or the obligatory row over 'That was a push!!', 'No way, that was a flick'.