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Title: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: NaomhBridAbú on April 06, 2013, 08:18:03 PM
...Dessie Ryan?
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: armaghniac on April 06, 2013, 08:26:45 PM
Tony McEntee
Gareth O'Neill
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: theticklemister on April 06, 2013, 08:49:37 PM
if this came up 2 years ago I would have said John Brennan; but he came, he coached and he.........fucked up!
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2013, 09:27:21 PM
José Mourinho.

End of.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: HIGH BALL CENTRE FIELD on April 06, 2013, 10:49:40 PM
Quote from: NaomhBridAbú on April 06, 2013, 08:18:03 PM
...Dessie Ryan?
Pretty sure he was part of the original management team of Art O'Hagan and Eugene O'Hagan in the 90s.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: Syferus on April 06, 2013, 11:45:24 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 06, 2013, 08:26:45 PM
Tony McEntee
Gareth O'Neill

Kevin McStay
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: sbw on April 07, 2013, 12:20:37 AM
Big Adrian mc guckin , thread closed
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: BennyHarp on April 07, 2013, 01:30:33 AM
Quote from: sbw on April 07, 2013, 12:20:37 AM
Big Adrian mc guckin , thread closed

Was going to suggest this very man myself. I have a vague recollection of him being involved with the Derry management team at some point, but I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: Leaverinlong on April 07, 2013, 12:08:48 PM
Adrian McGuckin was on a joint ticket with Eamon Coleman at one point
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: ranch on April 07, 2013, 12:54:51 PM
John Rafferty
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: EC Unique on April 07, 2013, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 07, 2013, 01:30:33 AM
Quote from: sbw on April 07, 2013, 12:20:37 AM
Big Adrian mc guckin , thread closed

Was going to suggest this very man myself. I have a vague recollection of him being involved with the Derry management team at some point, but I could be mistaken.

His son Ronan is doing a great job with us in Ballygawley.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: Orior on April 07, 2013, 05:21:05 PM
Quote from: ranch on April 07, 2013, 12:54:51 PM
John Rafferty

Ranch, are you John Rafferty?
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: T Fearon on April 07, 2013, 09:50:08 PM
Sir Alex Ferguson.Was going to say Brian Clough but he managed Derby COUNTY! ;D
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: rrhf on April 07, 2013, 10:38:04 PM
Colm o rourke
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: From the Bunker on April 07, 2013, 11:00:47 PM
Quote from: rrhf on April 07, 2013, 10:38:04 PM
Colm o rourke

Has won nothing of note as a Senior club manager. Can talk the talk though!
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: ranch on April 08, 2013, 12:01:32 AM
Quote from: Orior on April 07, 2013, 05:21:05 PM
Quote from: ranch on April 07, 2013, 12:54:51 PM
John Rafferty

Ranch, are you John Rafferty?

Nope. I mentioned him from an Armagh perspective.
He done well with St. Gall's and now St. Paul's and has never managed a county, worth a mention.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: T O Hare on April 08, 2013, 02:18:38 AM
Ray Morgan
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: ranch on April 08, 2013, 03:32:11 AM
Quote from: T O Hare on April 08, 2013, 02:18:38 AM
Ray Morgan

Not a bad shout.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: ck on April 08, 2013, 09:01:28 AM
As usual thread dominated by Ulster posters and comments.
So Dessie Ryan and McGuckian DID actually manage county teams and the rest mentioned here hardly hit the mark. Right to conclude then that there are very few top managers who haven't managed at county level?
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: Brick Tamlin on April 08, 2013, 10:48:01 AM
Ray Morgan.

End of Discussion.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 08, 2013, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on April 08, 2013, 10:48:01 AM
Ray Morgan.

End of Discussion.

It pains me to agree with that comment but he was definitely more influential in the College than wee Pete. 
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: T Fearon on April 08, 2013, 02:45:12 PM
Are we talking at County Senior Level, or any level? If it's at Senior level, what about Sean O'Neill who won the All Ireland Minor Title with Down in 1977 and the Sigerson Cup with Queens in 1982? Although I'm sure he had offers to manage senior County teams.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: ck on April 08, 2013, 10:21:29 PM
Who is Ray Morgan?

Sean O'Neill was the Down legend yeah? Strange he never managed Down alright especially if he did manage other teams.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: NP 76 on April 08, 2013, 11:13:32 PM
Sean O Neill was involved with Down when they won the national league in 1983 and Ray Morgan was just something else managed Burren to 2 All Ireland Club titles and St Colmans College to 5 Hogan cups and I think 8 mc Crory cups not a bad record
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: T Fearon on April 08, 2013, 11:28:00 PM
He was still managing Queens in 1983 so I can't see how he was involved with Down,other than maybe going to one or two training sessions.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: muppet on April 09, 2013, 04:24:40 PM
Martin Carney managed the Mayo minors (lost AIF 1991) and twice managed the Mayo U-21s (lost AIF both 1995 & 1996).

He obviously had potential as a manager but stuck with the punditry.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: blanketattack on April 09, 2013, 05:13:36 PM
The manager of the London team that won the 1901 hurling All-Ireland.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: T O Hare on April 10, 2013, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 08, 2013, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on April 08, 2013, 10:48:01 AM
Ray Morgan.

End of Discussion.

It pains me to agree with that comment but he was definitely more influential in the College than wee Pete.
Mcrory training was never the same with just wee Pete.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: southsidejohnny on April 11, 2013, 08:01:58 PM
McStay...next Mayo manager.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: From the Bunker on April 11, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
Quote from: southsidejohnny on April 11, 2013, 08:01:58 PM
McStay...next Mayo manager.

Why? Has Horan resigned?  :o
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: NaomhBridAbú on April 12, 2013, 10:52:16 PM
Dessie Ryan DID NOT Manage a county...may have worked along with Art McCrory and big Eugene, but didnt manage. also worked with the queens sigerson set up at one point...not just because he is an Ulster man, nor a Tyrone man, but i hear from a few players who have had the benefit of his time, say that he is unbelievable...
McGuckian would be another one
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: Syferus on April 13, 2013, 12:04:25 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 11, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
Quote from: southsidejohnny on April 11, 2013, 08:01:58 PM
McStay...next Mayo manager.

Why? Has Horan resigned?  :o

The Thriller is warming up his hamstrings for his big return as we speak.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: ck on April 13, 2013, 01:01:13 AM
Quote from: NaomhBridAbú on April 12, 2013, 10:52:16 PM
Dessie Ryan DID NOT Manage a county...may have worked along with Art McCrory and big Eugene, but didnt manage. also worked with the queens sigerson set up at one point...not just because he is an Ulster man, nor a Tyrone man, but i hear from a few players who have had the benefit of his time, say that he is unbelievable...
McGuckian would be another one

McGuckian? Adrian McGuckian? He managed Derry as joint manager with Eamon Coleman. He then left and Coleman continued on his own.
Never heard of Des Ryan
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: bottom brick on April 14, 2013, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 09, 2013, 04:24:40 PM
Martin Carney managed the Mayo minors (lost AIF 1991) and twice managed the Mayo U-21s (lost AIF both 1995 & 1996).

He obviously had potential as a manager but stuck with the punditry.
Mayo u-21s weren't in 96 AIF
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: muppet on April 14, 2013, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: bottom brick on April 14, 2013, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 09, 2013, 04:24:40 PM
Martin Carney managed the Mayo minors (lost AIF 1991) and twice managed the Mayo U-21s (lost AIF both 1995 & 1996).

He obviously had potential as a manager but stuck with the punditry.
Mayo u-21s weren't in 96 AIF

94 & 95.
Title: Re: best manager never to have managed a county
Post by: BartSimpson on April 14, 2013, 10:02:50 PM
Paul Clarke.