A lot of good games tonight and tomorrow. The big game is in Galway when they take on the Cats, Galway may win this game as they would have too many lads that they will miss on the St Thomas's team to make a big difference. Kilkenny not normally as strong this part of the year but will be competitive.
Dubs are big favourites against Offaly tomorrow for some reason, Keaney back for the Dubs I see hopefully he has lost nothing skill/fitness wise from the injury.
Tipp favourites in Cork tonight hard to call, Cork to turn them over, Tipp beat them later in the year
Clare Waterford game will be close also, nowt much between them
Cork 0-26 Tipp 1-11... Haven't seen a Tipp team play as bad as they did tonight ever.
Apparently they haven't done much hurling yet this year, it's been all strength and fitness but I still would have expected better.
Cork looked impressive, but it would have been hard not to look impressive against how Tipp played. I thought Chris Joyce was outsanding at 6. He got 0-02 from play as well. Stephen Moylan looked like Cork's most dangerous attacker for the first 25 mins but did very little for the rest of the game. Daniel Kearney was solid in midfield. I don't think Cork will have got much out of tonight, though, it was far too easy for them and I think the real talking point was not how good Cork were, but how poor Tipp were.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
A lot of good games tonight and tomorrow. The big game is in Galway when they take on the Cats, Galway may win this game as they would have too many lads that they will miss on the St Thomas's team to make a big difference. Kilkenny not normally as strong this part of the year but will be competitive.
Dubs are big favourites against Offaly tomorrow for some reason, Keaney back for the Dubs I see hopefully he has lost nothing skill/fitness wise from the injury.
Tipp favourites in Cork tonight hard to call, Cork to turn them over, Tipp beat them later in the year
Clare Waterford game will be close also, nowt much between them
Safe to say the handicap is in double figures?
14 points Tony :-[
I think it will be too much for Antrim tomorrow, first game away from home against a decent team, who'll be a force in Munster this year. I would just want a honest 70 minutes from all the players, simple.
Antrim will get mauled tomorrow unfortunately
Waterford are great value today at 11/4 against Clare. Mullane is gone, but they still have Walsh, Moran, Parendergast, Connors and plenty more experienced warriors selected against a talented but unproven Clare team. There should be a nice bit of bite in this one too. Might be the best of the weekend's games. I'd fancy Galway to win today. I think this will be our year actually.
A few strange latest scores, carlow dping well, the cats cpnceding three goals, antrim up by 6!! Go on the saffrons!!!!!!!
What was the price on antrim today does anyone know??
Great result for Cork last night, even if Tipp weren't at it, with all the retirements (some forced) Cork needed a good start and they got that.
Galway doing well against Kilkenny, if they remain consistent I fancy them in September.
Quote from: theticklemister on February 24, 2013, 02:47:50 PM
A few strange latest scores, carlow dping well, the cats cpnceding three goals, antrim up by 6!! Go on the saffrons!!!!!!!
What was the price on antrim today does anyone know??
I think the word yer looking for hardstation agus drici is................ JINX
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
A lot of good games tonight and tomorrow. The big game is in Galway when they take on the Cats, Galway may win this game as they would have too many lads that they will miss on the St Thomas's team to make a big difference. Kilkenny not normally as strong this part of the year but will be competitive.
Dubs are big favourites against Offaly tomorrow for some reason, Keaney back for the Dubs I see hopefully he has lost nothing skill/fitness wise from the injury.
Tipp favourites in Cork tonight hard to call, Cork to turn them over, Tipp beat them later in the year
Clare Waterford game will be close also, nowt much between them
Was very accurate in this post ;). Glad Antrim beat the handicap and put in an honest display, the best effort we've put in against Limerick in years. Fair play lads, 19 points is a fair haul.
I'm delighted we beat the Cats. Galway had a little bit of a point to prove yesterday.
My one worry is that we always need a few goals to get the better of Kilkenny. They score points easier.
Saw the first half of Cork v Tipperary on Setanta . Fair to say that there mostly wasn't a Tipperary player within 5 yards of the Cork players while scoring. Some long distance points scored and there was barely a Tipp player in the camera shot.
Very odd game.
Might be a glimmer of the Cork resurgence.
Pitch looked in great nick.
Lot of happy campers here today! Great win for Waterford yesterday. I had very low expectations what with a few retirements (you may have heard about one of them) and thought Clare would fly out the gate. I didn't see the game but the word on the street is that Jake Dillon and Brian O'Halloran looked the part. Still need another win at least to avoid the playoff but we have three out of our four games at home.
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on February 25, 2013, 11:52:14 AM
I'm delighted we beat the Cats. Galway had a little bit of a point to prove yesterday.
My one worry is that we always need a few goals to get the better of Kilkenny. They score points easier.
They have a serious knack of tacking on points from distance, close in or out on the wings!!. You could go to the toilet and in that space of time they could knock over 4/5 points. All their players are very accurate form play.
Galway need to be beating Kilkenny when it matters. Kilkenny have timed things right for the latter part of 10 or more years so losing here won't derail them. In the last four meetings Kilkenny have only beaten Galway once!!
Div1B could be pretty competitive if Antrim and Carlow keep putting it up to the favourites.
Allegedly Carlow were toe to toe in more ways than one with Wexford before losing their fullback to two yellows and Wexford got themselves a goal for breathing space. Both teams had lost a man each prior to this.
There may be less league games in the current format, but they look to be more competitive as there may only be a few points between promotion or relegation.
Good win for Galway alright even though Kilkenny were missing a few. Galway missing a few as well with the Thomas's lads unavailable. We really seem to be able to plunder goals from Kilkenny (and they had their first choice full-back line out yesterday) but we haven't been scoring a huge amount of points from play against them recently. Something that will have to be fixed as you can't rely on goals every day to beat them. Big plus for Galway was the display of Joseph Cooney at centre-back who was dominant throughout. Tony Og's position may be under threat as he didn't have the best games in the two All-Ireland finals last year and I think Anthony Cunningham is looking for alternatives there.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 25, 2013, 02:37:55 PM
Good win for Galway alright even though Kilkenny were missing a few. Galway missing a few as well with the Thomas's lads unavailable. We really seem to be able to plunder goals from Kilkenny (and they had their first choice full-back line out yesterday) but we haven't been scoring a huge amount of points from play against them recently. Something that will have to be fixed as you can't rely on goals every day to beat them. Big plus for Galway was the display of Joseph Cooney at centre-back who was dominant throughout. Tony Og's position may be under threat as he didn't have the best games in the two All-Ireland finals last year and I think Anthony Cunningham is looking for alternatives there.
Great to see Joe Óg shoring up the half back line. Fingers crossed he can build on it . CHB was one of the weaker positions last year. We need more scoring forwards as well.
Quote from: seafoid on February 25, 2013, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 25, 2013, 02:37:55 PM
Good win for Galway alright even though Kilkenny were missing a few. Galway missing a few as well with the Thomas's lads unavailable. We really seem to be able to plunder goals from Kilkenny (and they had their first choice full-back line out yesterday) but we haven't been scoring a huge amount of points from play against them recently. Something that will have to be fixed as you can't rely on goals every day to beat them. Big plus for Galway was the display of Joseph Cooney at centre-back who was dominant throughout. Tony Og's position may be under threat as he didn't have the best games in the two All-Ireland finals last year and I think Anthony Cunningham is looking for alternatives there.
Great to see Joe Óg shoring up the half back line. Fingers crossed he can build on it . CHB was one of the weaker positions last year. We need more scoring forwards as well.
Tony never looked the most agile on his feet and looks poor when facing his own goals or when turning to chase a man.
Would young Joe be quicker on the feet?
Has John Lee fell by the wayside altogether?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on February 25, 2013, 11:52:14 AM
I'm delighted we beat the Cats. Galway had a little bit of a point to prove yesterday.
My one worry is that we always need a few goals to get the better of Kilkenny. They score points easier.
They have a serious knack of tacking on points from distance, close in or out on the wings!!. You could go to the toilet and in that space of time they could knock over 4/5 points. All their players are very accurate form play.
Galway need to be beating Kilkenny when it matters. Kilkenny have timed things right for the latter part of 10 or more years so losing here won't derail them. In the last four meetings Kilkenny have only beaten Galway once!!
Losing won't derail them, but once only under Cody's tenure have they failed to win their opening league round. Bit of controversy about Galway's non-observance of a guard of honour for the AI champions, something they should have done I think.
Rumour has it Lee may be back in the pipeline sometime. More scoring forwards are needed as I don't know if Glynn or Niall Burke are (yet) good enough. A new midfield is needed too unfortunately. Somehow, I have a feeling that this won't be Galway's year. Then again, I don't think it will be KK's either and for Tipp, early-season omens don't look good. So who does that leave?
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2013, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on February 25, 2013, 11:52:14 AM
I'm delighted we beat the Cats. Galway had a little bit of a point to prove yesterday.
My one worry is that we always need a few goals to get the better of Kilkenny. They score points easier.
They have a serious knack of tacking on points from distance, close in or out on the wings!!. You could go to the toilet and in that space of time they could knock over 4/5 points. All their players are very accurate form play.
Galway need to be beating Kilkenny when it matters. Kilkenny have timed things right for the latter part of 10 or more years so losing here won't derail them. In the last four meetings Kilkenny have only beaten Galway once!!
Losing won't derail them, but once only under Cody's tenure have they failed to win their opening league round. Bit of controversy about Galway's non-observance of a guard of honour for the AI champions, something they should have done I think.
Rumour has it Lee may be back in the pipeline sometime. More scoring forwards are needed as I don't know if Glynn or Niall Burke are (yet) good enough. A new midfield is needed too unfortunately. Somehow, I have a feeling that this won't be Galway's year. Then again, I don't think it will be KK's either and for Tipp, early-season omens don't look good. So who does that leave?
What is the story with lar na pairce Mou? I thought Tannian would hold on to his place. Any Ml Coleman clones out Abbey direction ?
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2013, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on February 25, 2013, 11:52:14 AM
I'm delighted we beat the Cats. Galway had a little bit of a point to prove yesterday.
My one worry is that we always need a few goals to get the better of Kilkenny. They score points easier.
They have a serious knack of tacking on points from distance, close in or out on the wings!!. You could go to the toilet and in that space of time they could knock over 4/5 points. All their players are very accurate form play.
Galway need to be beating Kilkenny when it matters. Kilkenny have timed things right for the latter part of 10 or more years so losing here won't derail them. In the last four meetings Kilkenny have only beaten Galway once!!
Losing won't derail them, but once only under Cody's tenure have they failed to win their opening league round. Bit of controversy about Galway's non-observance of a guard of honour for the AI champions, something they should have done I think.
Rumour has it Lee may be back in the pipeline sometime. More scoring forwards are needed as I don't know if Glynn or Niall Burke are (yet) good enough. A new midfield is needed too unfortunately. Somehow, I have a feeling that this won't be Galway's year. Then again, I don't think it will be KK's either and for Tipp, early-season omens don't look good. So who does that leave?
I think it's safe to say that one of those three will win the All-Ireland.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 25, 2013, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2013, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on February 25, 2013, 11:52:14 AM
I'm delighted we beat the Cats. Galway had a little bit of a point to prove yesterday.
My one worry is that we always need a few goals to get the better of Kilkenny. They score points easier.
They have a serious knack of tacking on points from distance, close in or out on the wings!!. You could go to the toilet and in that space of time they could knock over 4/5 points. All their players are very accurate form play.
Galway need to be beating Kilkenny when it matters. Kilkenny have timed things right for the latter part of 10 or more years so losing here won't derail them. In the last four meetings Kilkenny have only beaten Galway once!!
Losing won't derail them, but once only under Cody's tenure have they failed to win their opening league round. Bit of controversy about Galway's non-observance of a guard of honour for the AI champions, something they should have done I think.
Rumour has it Lee may be back in the pipeline sometime. More scoring forwards are needed as I don't know if Glynn or Niall Burke are (yet) good enough. A new midfield is needed too unfortunately. Somehow, I have a feeling that this won't be Galway's year. Then again, I don't think it will be KK's either and for Tipp, early-season omens don't look good. So who does that leave?
I think it's safe to say that one of those three will win the All-Ireland.
Based solely on this weekend's games you wouldn't have Tipp ahead of either Cork, Clare or Waterford.
No midfielders a-la Coleman
is mor an trua, (oh, to have him again!), sadly Brian Fla isn't of the same ilk, as yet anyway. Tan appears to have forgotten the things that made him so effective last year and even during his best moments his use of the ball was suspect. I just don't think he wants success badly enough or has the outright discipline to achieve this.
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 25, 2013, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2013, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on February 25, 2013, 11:52:14 AM
I'm delighted we beat the Cats. Galway had a little bit of a point to prove yesterday.
My one worry is that we always need a few goals to get the better of Kilkenny. They score points easier.
They have a serious knack of tacking on points from distance, close in or out on the wings!!. You could go to the toilet and in that space of time they could knock over 4/5 points. All their players are very accurate form play.
Galway need to be beating Kilkenny when it matters. Kilkenny have timed things right for the latter part of 10 or more years so losing here won't derail them. In the last four meetings Kilkenny have only beaten Galway once!!
Losing won't derail them, but once only under Cody's tenure have they failed to win their opening league round. Bit of controversy about Galway's non-observance of a guard of honour for the AI champions, something they should have done I think.
Rumour has it Lee may be back in the pipeline sometime. More scoring forwards are needed as I don't know if Glynn or Niall Burke are (yet) good enough. A new midfield is needed too unfortunately. Somehow, I have a feeling that this won't be Galway's year. Then again, I don't think it will be KK's either and for Tipp, early-season omens don't look good. So who does that leave?
I think it's safe to say that one of those three will win the All-Ireland.
Based solely on this weekend's games you wouldn't have Tipp ahead of either Cork, Clare or Waterford.
First game of the league. I wouldn't pay too much attention to it. Teams are at different stages depending on training, some target a good league campaign, others will be happy just to keep their powder dry and avoid relegation.
A good few of the Kilkenny lads had a night on the town in Galway on Saturday night. That's the way the league is. I'd be very surprised too if the All - Ireland winners don't come from KK, Tipp or Galway.
The forwards struggled to score at times but we were missing Donnellan, David Burke, Conor Cooney and James Regan as well. I'd expect the first 3 of those to be starting come the championship. Flannery and Cooney are both doing well and have established themselves. If I was picking a championship team now I'd say:
1. Flannery
2. Moore
3. Hynes
4. Coen
5. Collins
6. J Cooney
7. Donoghue
8. Smith
9, D Burke
10. Donnellan
11. J Glynn
12. N. Burke
13. D Hayes
14. Canning
15. C. Cooney
but a lot will happen between now and the championship.
Quote from: Asal Mor on February 26, 2013, 04:07:02 AM
A good few of the Kilkenny lads had a night on the town in Galway on Saturday night. That's the way the league is. I'd be very surprised too if the All - Ireland winners don't come from KK, Tipp or Galway.
The forwards struggled to score at times but we were missing Donnellan, David Burke, Conor Cooney and James Regan as well. I'd expect the first 3 of those to be starting come the championship. Flannery and Cooney are both doing well and have established themselves. If I was picking a championship team now I'd say:
1. Flannery
2. Moore
3. Hynes
4. Coen
5. Collins
6. J Cooney
7. Donoghue
8. Smith
9, D Burke
10. Donnellan
11. J Glynn
12. N. Burke
13. D Hayes
14. Canning
15. C. Cooney
but a lot will happen between now and the championship.
Would have
1) Skehill / Callanan
2) Moore
3) Kavanagh
4) Coen
5) Donohoe (must hurry his clearances though)
6) Maybe Cooney / Lee, if he comes back and buys into management direction
7) Collins
8 Hynes
9) D Burke
10) C Cooney
11) JC
12) Donnellan, but must improve more
13) N Burke
14) D Hayes
15 Maybe Glennon / N Healy / B Burke / S Maloney
Still a lot to be settled.
Was wondering if B Burke would get a look in, he's a robust character and would be able to ship a few challenges and is surprisingly quick for his physique. Not sure if he'd have the temperament to take a slap and run on (and obviously wait for his chance to exact revenge ;) ) if someone was to try and rile him.
Quote from: Asal Mor on February 26, 2013, 04:07:02 AM
A good few of the Kilkenny lads had a night on the town in Galway on Saturday night. That's the way the league is. I'd be very surprised too if the All - Ireland winners don't come from KK, Tipp or Galway.
The forwards struggled to score at times but we were missing Donnellan, David Burke, Conor Cooney and James Regan as well. I'd expect the first 3 of those to be starting come the championship. Flannery and Cooney are both doing well and have established themselves. If I was picking a championship team now I'd say:
1. Flannery
2. Moore
3. Hynes
4. Coen
5. Collins
6. J Cooney
7. Donoghue
8. Smith
9, D Burke
10. Donnellan
11. J Glynn
12. N. Burke
13. D Hayes
14. Canning
15. C. Cooney
but a lot will happen between now and the championship.
Personally would be amazed if the first paragraph of this post was right. Utterly amazed.
To come back to the league, the present format is interesting. No arsing about ........... every game matters . After next weekend (barring a draw) one of Kilkenny or Tipperary will be in serious relegation trouble.
In Div 1B (ahem Div 2) there will be some scramble to get promoted.
It's only February and Cork have shot their load already.
A lot of work for Tipp to do, but now we have a good idea of how much improvement is needed.
Cork are in a different place to Tipp and will place a lot of emphasis on the league to build confidence in a young team. It may be work in progress for a few years though.
Tipp are gearing themselves for a long summer to have a decent tilt at Kilkenny, whether that happens or not may depend on them finding a few more scoring forwards who can win dirty ball other than Bonner Maher and O'Meara, Lar and Eoin Kelly's best days are behind them and more suited to cameo roles in the last 10 minutes or so.
Quote from: Premier Emperor on February 27, 2013, 10:03:38 AM
It's only February and Cork have shot their load already.A lot of work for Tipp to do, but now we have a good idea of how much improvement is needed.
I don't know about that. Were we really that good? I don't think so. Tipp were just very very bad.
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2013, 07:28:02 PM
Somehow, I have a feeling that this won't be Galway's year. Then again, I don't think it will be KK's either and for Tipp, early-season omens don't look good. So who does that leave?
Cork, Waterford, Limerick and Clare, but none of those teams are quite at the level to beat Galway or Kilkenny. Cork and Clare could probably both take Tipp and one of them probably will in Munster, I think, so you'd have to feel it will be Kilkenny or Galway's year.
Important win for Offaly today in Tullamore. Hard fought by all accounts, but it keeps the league alive for them. A decent effort against Dublin and now a win over Wexford keeps them interested at least.
Very competitive league in both divisions !! Div 1 a..... Two teams on 3, three on 2 and one on 1. In div 2.... Any of Offaly , Dublin , Wexford or limerick could go up!!
It certainly is competitive, every game counts. I'm happy enough with Waterford's start to the league. We were written off as usual before league started but 3 points from 4 with a fairly young team is a good return.
Only having 6 teams in the Divisions makes it very random.
With 8 teams, it usually forks into distinct promotion, relegation and mid-table limbo scenarios before the end.
Having only 5 games makes every win or loss significant.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 11, 2013, 11:01:09 AM
Only having 6 teams in the Divisions makes it very random.
With 8 teams, it usually forks into distinct promotion, relegation and mid-table limbo scenarios before the end.
Having only 5 games makes every win or loss significant.
No wins for Kilkenny out of two games now, will Cody be sacked? ;)
Tipp got a headed goal yesterday, ball dropped in, O'Brien and the fullback both went up to catch, neither got to it, but it bounced off the angle of O'Brien's helmet and shot into the net like a bullet, keeper had no chance.
Still think the centre to the Tipp defence will struggle when the sod drys out a bit..
Lar got his goal yesterday ghosting in behind a dropping ball and getting a flick in before the keeper got out to it.
Limerick have struggled to put away what would be considered the two weaker teams in the section in Carlow and Antrim.
Where do Antrim and Carlow play as home advantage may be the deciding factor when it comes to relegation?
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Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 11, 2013, 11:01:09 AM
Only having 6 teams in the Divisions makes it very random.
With 8 teams, it usually forks into distinct promotion, relegation and mid-table limbo scenarios before the end.
Having only 5 games makes every win or loss significant.
No wins for Kilkenny out of two games now, will Cody be sacked? ;)
Tipp got a headed goal yesterday, ball dropped in, O'Brien and the fullback both went up to catch, neither got to it, but it bounced off the angle of O'Brien's helmet and shot into the net like a bullet, keeper had no chance.
Still think the centre to the Tipp defence will struggle when the sod drys out a bit..
Lar got his goal yesterday ghosting in behind a dropping ball and getting a flick in before the keeper got out to it.
Limerick have struggled to put away what would be considered the two weaker teams in the section in Carlow and Antrim.
Where do Antrim and Carlow play as home advantage may be the deciding factor when it comes to relegation?
Antrim are away to Carlow on Sunday week.
Quote from: waterfordlad on March 11, 2013, 09:09:46 AM
It certainly is competitive, every game counts. I'm happy enough with Waterford's start to the league. We were written off as usual before league started but 3 points from 4 with a fairly young team is a good return.
I didn't think we had a hope. At least now we have that, and the result against Clare has been burnished by their win over Galway. Thought we played very well yesterday (http://www.comeonthedeise.ie/2013/03/10/waterford-0-15-15-cork-1-12-15/) in difficult conditions. Damn it, now I'm getting my hopes up! ;)
Great article deiseach. You're a talented story-teller.
Quote from: Asal Mor on March 15, 2013, 04:25:13 PM
Great article deiseach. You're a talented story-teller.
Are you saying I make stuff up? Seriously, thank you for the kind thought.
Waterford played well for 50 minutes or so today but Kilkenny got on top near the end. 2 soft goals cost us dearly and we over did the short puck out and passing. It's still been a decent start to the league.
We're definitely doing something right when I'm feeling put out that we couldn't beat Kilkenny. The lack of goals is a concern, as is a possible trend towards late game collapses - lacking the physical oomph that Davy brought to the table? Still, we're competitive and that's enough for me.
Offaly were lucky to escape with a win against Carlow yesterday. Carlow played almost the entire game with 14 men and lead by 4 points with 12 minutes to go and it took a Joe Bergin goal to turn it around for Offaly.
Continued progress being made in Carlow, not so sure about Offaly.
Carlow put it up to Limerick there recently as well. I think Offaly were in that daft 'relaxed' frame of mind that Offaly teams, with no reason to, get into too frequently. Offaly hurled well against Dublin and Wexford, but were damned lucky by all accounts below in Carlow.
We are top of the League I said we are top of the League :D (http://www.comeonthedeise.ie/2013/03/24/waterford-1-14-17-tipperary-0-16-16/)
Davy still going strong -
I must watch this game later on to see the crack - I can just imagine the scene.
Although the first-half free-count had been 10-6 in Clare's favour, some marginal calls had gone Kilkenny's way. After Anthony Stapleton gave one of those calls to Kilkenny in injury time, Davy Fitzgerald roared out to the referee that he was "giving Kilkenny everything". Standing just metres away, the smile on Cody's face was still clearly visible beneath a baseball cap and hood.
Quote from: orangeman on March 25, 2013, 08:51:52 AM
Davy still going strong -
I must watch this game later on to see the crack - I can just imagine the scene.
Although the first-half free-count had been 10-6 in Clare's favour, some marginal calls had gone Kilkenny's way. After Anthony Stapleton gave one of those calls to Kilkenny in injury time, Davy Fitzgerald roared out to the referee that he was "giving Kilkenny everything". Standing just metres away, the smile on Cody's face was still clearly visible beneath a baseball cap and hood.
I'd watched that game on the google box, it was decent enough, wile load of bunching and what not, but thought Clare had developed their possession game a bit better, giving the ball into spaces for their fullforward line to run onto and try to beat their men, a bit of overcarrying sometimes to do it right enough, but they still got caught carrying the ball out of defence once or twice which resulted in Kilkenny scores.
The three goals were the difference as Clare had the better of open play but hit some bad wides and Conlon missed a good goal chance but the keeper did well and was out on him like a flash before he could gather clean possession.
Thought the referee blew up a bit early as he'd already informed the sideline official he'd play 2 minutes, but in that two minutes there was an injury which took up a good minute of it and he blew almost as soon as the 2 were up. Clare were very much in the ascendency at this time and looked as if they'd have gotten a chance to get the equaliser.
I think Cody knows he'll need to get some of his big players out of injury to win Liam this year, whereas Davy knows his charges aren't the finished article, but he's got an awful lot right with them, two very quicker corner backs, Bugler and Donnellan in the half backs are good, a ball winner in Conlon in the forwards and a lot of pace in the middle of the park and in the forwards. They just need a bit of ring craft which may still take a year or two to get, but they'll be hard enough to work with for anyone this year.
Great win for Waterford yesterday. 5 points down with Seamus Callanan scoring points for fun it looked like Tipp would win comfortably but Waterford snatched a win with 6 points in a row. The bitterly cold conditions meant only the really committed fans were there and there was great celebrations with Dillon and Moran scored at the end.
Waterford are a great price against Galway this weekend, 6/4 and playing really well and coming strong late in games, shows great fitness levels. Stop Galway's goal threat and this could be another win
It should be an exciting day tomorrow and the calculators could be out but Waterfod know a win will guarantee them top spot in the league with the winners of the other 2 games to join them in the semis. If there are draws then the calculators will be needed or does it go on head to head record? There should be good crowds at all games with something to play for.
It goes to head-to-head if there are two teams on the same number of points, but more than two and it goes to points difference. It is possible for all the teams to finish on five points. This will be the case if Galway beat Waterford and the other two games finish in draws. Would seem fairly harsh on the two teams who go into the relegation play-off seeing as they'd have the same number of points as the team on top.
RTE say it is hard to see past Waherford agin Galway today. Is that the kiss of death?
Quote from: seafoid on March 31, 2013, 10:07:19 AM
RTE say it is hard to see past Waherford agin Galway today. Is that the kiss of death?
That's the first time all year anyone has gone for Waterford, so we're screwed. Then again, before anyone thinks I'm scoffing at the predictive power of pundits, it should be noted that I thought we'd lose all five matches.
Quote from: deiseach on March 31, 2013, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 31, 2013, 10:07:19 AM
RTE say it is hard to see past Waherford agin Galway today. Is that the kiss of death?
That's the first time all year anyone has gone for Waterford, so we're screwed. Then again, before anyone thinks I'm scoffing at the predictive power of pundits, it should be noted that I thought we'd lose all five matches.
Am heading to Walsh park to watch this, Waterford doing well despite the loss of Mullane
Great result for Dungarvan colleges during the week too v Kierans
Is Adam Watson back playing for us yet?
25mins gone and Cork leading Kilkenny 3 points to 7
EDIT
Halftime
Kilkenny 0-7 Cork 0-7
Good game of hurling, every high ball into Cork forwards being caught by JJ, Jackie Tyrell etc. Richie Hogan penalty saved but Kk kept putting on the pressure up to halftime. Hogan should of been booked for the swing after the penalty after which a minor fracas broke out. Hope Cork keep at it for second half.
Deise down by 5 points. Feicimid.
Donal O'Grady said at halftime that whoever gets first goal will win it, Pat Fleury agreed. Cork were 1-11 to 0-11 up and now scores are 1-11 to 0-15 after 60 mins. Kk with 7/8 second half wides
68 mins 0-17 to 1-12
Cork missing a few chances
69 mins Richie Hogan way out in front of his man again for his foyrth point of second half
0-18 1-12
2 minutes extra to be played
Conor Lehane goal
2-12 to 0-19
last minute
Great game, kk win by 2
Cracking point from Michael Fennelly to ensure they win it. Ball left by 3 Cork defenders and Kk man just hops in and picks up to give Fennelly the last shot of the game.
FT 2-12 to 0-20
Never trust a junkie. Never put the Deise up as unbeatable at home. Something will go wrong.
Galway deserved the win today. Davy Glennon was very good for them. Joe Canning blew hot and cold. Waterford improved in 2nd half after only scoring 3 points in first half. Maurice Shanahan was top scorer but we needed a goal to come back and didn't have many chances as the Galway defence stood firm. The referee Anthony Stapleton of Laois was terrible and failed to award frees for blatant fouls which annoyed the crowd and didn't show Iarla Tannian a yellow card for chopping down on a Waterford players hand. He yellow carded Seamus Prendergast only for wrestling over a hurley with a Galway defender soon after. I saw some of the incidents again on tv afterwards and Galway also had bad decisions against them in 2nd half.
Overall a decent league for Waterford and better than expected and some new young players are doing well so we have to be happy enough despite missing out on semi final place after todays results.
Sure we both stay up at the end of the day. Anything else is just gravy.
Nearly looking forward to the Clare v Cork relegation playoff as much as our own game. That one will be like a championship match as nobody wants to spend a year (or longer) in division 2.
The good old days are back. The Clare lads arriving into Thurles with their 70s jumpers and worn out trousers. Speaking pidgin English at 100 miles an hour, only pausing to wipe the drool from their mouths.
The Premier boys giving them a hurling lesson. Bossing them in every department. Davy Fitz going nuts on the sideline.
Great performances in particular from Lar, Eoin, Brendan Maher and Noel McGrath. Shane Bourke could be the key find for Tipp for the championship. We have the right man in charge and we're moving up through the gears nicely.
The whipping boys will be happier playing in Division 2 next year.
Cork and Kilkenny both poor today, but equally poor so it made for a fairly good game. Cork marginally better in the first half and should have gone in at the break 4 or 5 points ahead. Kilkenny better than us in the second half. But for a few wides and the two goals from the Midleton lads we could have been wiped off the pitch.
The relegation play-off next week should be better than any of the semi-finals or final as there's more at stake. Neither team will want to play in Div 1B next year as none of the games today had any meaning in comparison to the ending of 1A. Anyone know where and what time it's on?
Quote from: Premier Emperor on March 31, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
The good old days are back. The Clare lads arriving into Thurles with their 70s jumpers and worn out trousers. Speaking pidgin English at 100 miles an hour, only pausing to wipe the drool from their mouths.
The Premier boys giving them a hurling lesson. Bossing them in every department. Davy Fitz going nuts on the sideline.
Great performances in particular from Lar, Eoin, Brendan Maher and Noel McGrath. Shane Bourke could be the key find for Tipp for the championship. We have the right man in charge and we're moving up through the gears nicely.
The whipping boys will be happier playing in Division 2 next year.
Relative to their underage success Tipp have unearthed very few new players. Wouldn't fancy them against Kilkenny later in the year
Galway and Waterford was a reasonable game. Galway don't look as good as last year and Waterford are probably punching above their weight at present.
Kilkenny are doing just enough and Cork are probably a bit unlucky to be in a relegation battle. Clare the same- clare have a very young team and probably the lack of experienced players counted against them yesterday
There's a lot of talk on Twitter about how the authorities might suddenly feel the need to restructure the League should Cork drop into Division Nowhere 1B. Bad form on Waterford for not doing the decent thing and taking our appointed place in oblivion. I hope Clare win the playoff, if only to see whether the conspiracy theories are right.
Quote from: INDIANA on April 01, 2013, 09:32:54 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on March 31, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
The good old days are back. The Clare lads arriving into Thurles with their 70s jumpers and worn out trousers. Speaking pidgin English at 100 miles an hour, only pausing to wipe the drool from their mouths.
The Premier boys giving them a hurling lesson. Bossing them in every department. Davy Fitz going nuts on the sideline.
Great performances in particular from Lar, Eoin, Brendan Maher and Noel McGrath. Shane Bourke could be the key find for Tipp for the championship. We have the right man in charge and we're moving up through the gears nicely.
The whipping boys will be happier playing in Division 2 next year.
Galway and Waterford was a reasonable game. Galway don't look as good as last year and Waterford are probably punching above their weight at present.
Waterford actually beat us at home in the league last year so winning down there is an improvement of sorts. ;D
To be honest we probably won more comfortably than the scoreline suggests and winning down there is not easy as Tipp found out last week. Happy enough to just stay up and at least we get another game.
Quote from: INDIANA on April 01, 2013, 09:32:54 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on March 31, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
The good old days are back. The Clare lads arriving into Thurles with their 70s jumpers and worn out trousers. Speaking pidgin English at 100 miles an hour, only pausing to wipe the drool from their mouths.
The Premier boys giving them a hurling lesson. Bossing them in every department. Davy Fitz going nuts on the sideline.
Great performances in particular from Lar, Eoin, Brendan Maher and Noel McGrath. Shane Bourke could be the key find for Tipp for the championship. We have the right man in charge and we're moving up through the gears nicely.
The whipping boys will be happier playing in Division 2 next year.
Relative to their underage success Tipp have unearthed very few new players. Wouldn't fancy them against Kilkenny later in the year
Galway and Waterford was a reasonable game. Galway don't look as good as last year and Waterford are probably punching above their weight at present.
Kilkenny are doing just enough and Cork are probably a bit unlucky to be in a relegation battle. Clare the same- clare have a very young team and probably the lack of experienced players counted against them yesterday
Galway were in a relegation playoff this time last year.
They only beat Westmeath by a few points last May.
I would wait until July
Quote from: deiseach on April 01, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
There's a lot of talk on Twitter about how the authorities might suddenly feel the need to restructure the League should Cork drop into Division Nowhere 1B. Bad form on Waterford for not doing the decent thing and taking our appointed place in oblivion. I hope Clare win the playoff, if only to see whether the conspiracy theories are right.
Try being from Dublin.
It will take a big gun to get relegated before the authorities get off their arse and get real when it comes to hurling
Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2013, 09:09:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 01, 2013, 09:32:54 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on March 31, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
The good old days are back. The Clare lads arriving into Thurles with their 70s jumpers and worn out trousers. Speaking pidgin English at 100 miles an hour, only pausing to wipe the drool from their mouths.
The Premier boys giving them a hurling lesson. Bossing them in every department. Davy Fitz going nuts on the sideline.
Great performances in particular from Lar, Eoin, Brendan Maher and Noel McGrath. Shane Bourke could be the key find for Tipp for the championship. We have the right man in charge and we're moving up through the gears nicely.
The whipping boys will be happier playing in Division 2 next year.
Relative to their underage success Tipp have unearthed very few new players. Wouldn't fancy them against Kilkenny later in the year
Galway and Waterford was a reasonable game. Galway don't look as good as last year and Waterford are probably punching above their weight at present.
Kilkenny are doing just enough and Cork are probably a bit unlucky to be in a relegation battle. Clare the same- clare have a very young team and probably the lack of experienced players counted against them yesterday
Galway were in a relegation playoff this time last year.
They only beat Westmeath by a few points last May.
I would wait until July
Very few new players for Galway. If big joe is well marked who chips in? Debatable in my view.
1-9 is as good as anybody else's
Quote from: INDIANA on April 01, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2013, 09:09:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 01, 2013, 09:32:54 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on March 31, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
The good old days are back. The Clare lads arriving into Thurles with their 70s jumpers and worn out trousers. Speaking pidgin English at 100 miles an hour, only pausing to wipe the drool from their mouths.
The Premier boys giving them a hurling lesson. Bossing them in every department. Davy Fitz going nuts on the sideline.
Great performances in particular from Lar, Eoin, Brendan Maher and Noel McGrath. Shane Bourke could be the key find for Tipp for the championship. We have the right man in charge and we're moving up through the gears nicely.
The whipping boys will be happier playing in Division 2 next year.
Relative to their underage success Tipp have unearthed very few new players. Wouldn't fancy them against Kilkenny later in the year
Galway and Waterford was a reasonable game. Galway don't look as good as last year and Waterford are probably punching above their weight at present.
Kilkenny are doing just enough and Cork are probably a bit unlucky to be in a relegation battle. Clare the same- clare have a very young team and probably the lack of experienced players counted against them yesterday
Galway were in a relegation playoff this time last year.
They only beat Westmeath by a few points last May.
I would wait until July
Very few new players for Galway. If big joe is well marked who chips in? Debatable in my view.
1-9 is as good as anybody else's
Yeah if Canning is well watched, easier said than done, they are sunk against good opposition. Too many of the other forwards are unreliable.
Quote from: INDIANA on April 01, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2013, 09:09:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 01, 2013, 09:32:54 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on March 31, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
The good old days are back. The Clare lads arriving into Thurles with their 70s jumpers and worn out trousers. Speaking pidgin English at 100 miles an hour, only pausing to wipe the drool from their mouths.
The Premier boys giving them a hurling lesson. Bossing them in every department. Davy Fitz going nuts on the sideline.
Great performances in particular from Lar, Eoin, Brendan Maher and Noel McGrath. Shane Bourke could be the key find for Tipp for the championship. We have the right man in charge and we're moving up through the gears nicely.
The whipping boys will be happier playing in Division 2 next year.
Relative to their underage success Tipp have unearthed very few new players. Wouldn't fancy them against Kilkenny later in the year
Galway and Waterford was a reasonable game. Galway don't look as good as last year and Waterford are probably punching above their weight at present.
Kilkenny are doing just enough and Cork are probably a bit unlucky to be in a relegation battle. Clare the same- clare have a very young team and probably the lack of experienced players counted against them yesterday
Galway were in a relegation playoff this time last year.
They only beat Westmeath by a few points last May.
I would wait until July
Very few new players for Galway. If big joe is well marked who chips in? Debatable in my view.
1-9 is as good as anybody else's
Well Davy Glennon has been Galway's best player in the league along with Joe. I'd say he's got his position nailed down for the championship and he was only a rarely used sub last year. Other than that I wouldn't expect a whole pile of changes. Cunningham will be hoping for young lads like Niall Burke and Conor Cooney to make a step up in their second year on the panel. And get Cyril Donnellan back to the form he was in prior to his arm injury last year which he seems to be albeit slowly.
They are definitely looking at alternatives at centre-back to Tony Og. Joseph Cooney looked good there against Kilkenny. Not so good against Tipp. David Collins is currently being tried there. Maybe even Shane Kavanagh will eventually find his way back into the team there.
Overall happy enough to be getting another game against Kilkenny. The more you play them the better.
Quote from: INDIANA on April 01, 2013, 10:59:49 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 01, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
There's a lot of talk on Twitter about how the authorities might suddenly feel the need to restructure the League should Cork drop into Division Nowhere 1B. Bad form on Waterford for not doing the decent thing and taking our appointed place in oblivion. I hope Clare win the playoff, if only to see whether the conspiracy theories are right.
Try being from Dublin.
It will take a big gun to get relegated before the authorities get off their arse and get real when it comes to hurling
I hear you. It should be two up two down.
Clare beat Cork in 1A relegation play off, after extra time. Sounded like a great game.
2-23 to 0-31 I think was final score.
Cork regelated? Time to restructure d leage agin? :)
Advantage Kilkenny because Tipperary got no test yesterday. Dublin are dire.
They game was over before most fans found their seats.
The points were that Tipp scored 3-16 from play and Padraig Maher and Noel McGrath superb.
Paddy Stapleton, Brendan Maher, Seamus Callinan and young Jason Forde hurled very well also.
I can't believe the final has been fixed for that dump of a place Nowlan Park. It has killed me buzz entirely!
Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 22, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
Advantage Kilkenny because Tipperary got no test yesterday. Dublin are dire.
They game was over before most fans found their seats.
The points were that Tipp scored 3-16 from play and Padraig Maher and Noel McGrath superb.
Paddy Stapleton, Brendan Maher, Seamus Callinan and young Jason Forde hurled very well also.
I can't believe the final has been fixed for that dump of a place Nowlan Park. It has killed me buzz entirely!
I hope Tipp are better than they were last August.
Quote from: seafoid on April 22, 2013, 10:34:19 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 22, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
Advantage Kilkenny because Tipperary got no test yesterday. Dublin are dire.
They game was over before most fans found their seats.
The points were that Tipp scored 3-16 from play and Padraig Maher and Noel McGrath superb.
Paddy Stapleton, Brendan Maher, Seamus Callinan and young Jason Forde hurled very well also.
I can't believe the final has been fixed for that dump of a place Nowlan Park. It has killed me buzz entirely!
I hope Tipp are better than they were last August.
Thanks for your concern.
It looks like Galway are continuing the pattern of following up any good year they have with a 4 year hibernation.
Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 22, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
Advantage Kilkenny because Tipperary got no test yesterday. Dublin are dire.
They game was over before most fans found their seats.
The points were that Tipp scored 3-16 from play and Padraig Maher and Noel McGrath superb.
Paddy Stapleton, Brendan Maher, Seamus Callinan and young Jason Forde hurled very well also.
I can't believe the final has been fixed for that dump of a place Nowlan Park. It has killed me buzz entirely!
Discovered some humility recently have you? Normally you'd be blustering about, predicting handy victories and then hiding away for months when made to look like a twat.
Galway were very, very poor yesterday. Kilkenny look to be picking up a head of steam ahead of the championship.
Quote from: gallsman on April 22, 2013, 11:44:37 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 22, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
Advantage Kilkenny because Tipperary got no test yesterday. Dublin are dire.
They game was over before most fans found their seats.
The points were that Tipp scored 3-16 from play and Padraig Maher and Noel McGrath superb.
Paddy Stapleton, Brendan Maher, Seamus Callinan and young Jason Forde hurled very well also.
I can't believe the final has been fixed for that dump of a place Nowlan Park. It has killed me buzz entirely!
Discovered some humility recently have you? Normally you'd be blustering about, predicting handy victories and then hiding away for months when made to look like a t**t.
Dunno what you mean?
I simply call it as it is.
Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 22, 2013, 12:25:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 22, 2013, 11:44:37 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 22, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
Advantage Kilkenny because Tipperary got no test yesterday. Dublin are dire.
They game was over before most fans found their seats.
The points were that Tipp scored 3-16 from play and Padraig Maher and Noel McGrath superb.
Paddy Stapleton, Brendan Maher, Seamus Callinan and young Jason Forde hurled very well also.
I can't believe the final has been fixed for that dump of a place Nowlan Park. It has killed me buzz entirely!
Discovered some humility recently have you? Normally you'd be blustering about, predicting handy victories and then hiding away for months when made to look like a t**t.
Dunno what you mean?
I simply call it as it is.
So Tipps gameplan last year, what way did you call that?
Anyways Tipp are a decent team they have it seems they have everybody flying on all cylinders at the minute, should make for a cracking final. Think Tipp will win the final and be second best when it matters
Tipps forwards yesterday looked really good, which has to be taken in the context of the Dubs laxness in closing them down. I thought the diagonal passing to the free man was very good, and some of the flicks and quick passes were a joy. Whether that stands up when Tommy Walsh is biting your ankles remains to be seen, but Tipp are in a better place than they were in August 2012.
Kilkenny v Tipperary now on Sunday in the final Any thoughts on this one? There should be a big crowd at Nowlan Park.
Quote from: waterfordlad on May 03, 2013, 10:49:32 AM
Kilkenny v Tipperary now on Sunday in the final Any thoughts on this one? There should be a big crowd at Nowlan Park.
This could be a bit more feisty than a normal 'means nothing to either team' league final.
Tipp were abjectly embarrassing in the semi-final against Kilkenny, they'll, particularly Lar, will want to have a more positive impact on the game than holding Wee Tommy Welsh scoreless.
Kilkenny will be keen to keep the psychological boot on Tipps throats and glean a win which I think they will as they won't give the Tipp forwards the time and space they need to thrive.
Tipp have the great incentive of beating KK in a national final on their home ground........... likewise KK. This game's importance imvho has increased x 5 as a result of it being played in Nowlan Park.
Very tight pitch will suit KK imo . KK by 2pts.
If Tipp go into the bear's mouth today and come away with a win, it will give them and everybody else great hope that they can again break the KK grip on Liam.
Should be a tough and uncompromising game. I'm looking forward to it.
My money is on Tipp(+2) at 5/6, but only because Kilkenny are missing four of their starting forwards through injury. Still hard to spot a weak link on the Kilkenny team but I think Tipp should be able to contain their forwards(bar Richie Hogan) and just about scrape it.
I thought Tipp's forwards could do better than that today. It was a great game though, fair fúcks to the cats though, the hunger is still there, with or without Cody.
Enthralling contest today.
No lying down here. Some of the hits were bone crunching.
Michael Fennelly has some engine.
Good to see both teams going so well.
Looking forward to the rematch in the summer.
Still think Galway have a better chance of staying close to Kilkenny later on in the Summer, if you took Noel McGrath and Brendan Maher off that Tipp yesterday it would have been very average. Full back line was pretty tight in fairness.
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 06, 2013, 12:40:31 PM
Still think Galway have a better chance of staying close to Kilkenny later on in the Summer, if you took Noel McGrath and Brendan Maher off that Tipp yesterday it would have been very average. Full back line was pretty tight in fairness.
I hope you're right City Slicker but I fear we'll be watching these 2 battle it out again in September. It's worrying that Kilkenny won without Henry, TJ and Richie - probably 3 of their best 4 forwards along with Richie Hogan, though they were playing at home. Fair play to the GAA for playing the game at Nowlan Park by the way. Very clever move and it made for a great game.
Tipp are a good side but the decline of Kelly and Corbett makes them unlikely to stop Kilkenny this summer.
The ball winning ability of the kk defenders was superb. Hardly a tipp forward on top of their man at all.
Kk forwards poor enough but colm fennelly hard to mark. With all those guys to come back in the forwards they would seem unstoppable.
I would agree galway more likely to challenge later in year in my view.
Only saw the 2nd half. If ever there was a "comfortable 3 point win" this was it. Ty never looked to me anyway like scoring a goal.
There was an incident in the game when aTipp back (won't name him) was absolutely burned for pace............... rarely seen in the intercounty game. Happened near the far sideline.
It was Paul Curran towards the end over in the right hand corner from where the camera was?
Quote from: Canalman on May 06, 2013, 02:56:18 PM
Only saw the 2nd half. If ever there was a "comfortable 3 point win" this was it. Ty never looked to me anyway like scoring a goal.
There was an incident in the game when aTipp back (won't name him) was absolutely burned for pace............... rarely seen in the intercounty game. Happened near the far sideline.
Curran was doing well aside from getting caught out there, on the whole I was impressed with the Tipp defence and Paudie Maher is better suited to the centre where he can get on a lot more ball and have a greater impact on the game, their lack of forward options may be a problem later on in the year, I was wondering if big O'Meara was injured as he may lack a bit of finess, but he can win his own dirty ball and takes the direct route to goal, something Tipp lacked.
As for Lar, up to his sending off his only real contribution was the handpass out to Noel McGrath out on the wing which McGrath pointed, can't comment on the sending off other than what was shown on the TV, and it was only of JJ Delaney punching Lar's helmet, but I believe he may have broken ribs, so that's him out irrespective of any suspension.
I have to commend Barry Kelly on the refereeing front, he got most of the calls right and picked up on some sneaky stuff like the flicking of hurleys etc, which go unchecked. He was also totally right to give the free against Fogarty who dropped the hurl to get a handpass away and then had the temerity to question it, unless he felt he was fouled prior to that then he'd no issue. Kelly rightly moved the ball forward for Tipp.
There was still a good few arms around the neck challenges which needs to be cut out before it gets worse.
Quote from: Premier Emperor on March 31, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
The good old days are back. The Clare lads arriving into Thurles with their 70s jumpers and worn out trousers. Speaking pidgin English at 100 miles an hour, only pausing to wipe the drool from their mouths.
The Premier boys giving them a hurling lesson. Bossing them in every department. Davy Fitz going nuts on the sideline.
Great performances in particular from Lar, Eoin, Brendan Maher and Noel McGrath. Shane Bourke could be the key find for Tipp for the championship. We have the right man in charge and we're moving up through the gears nicely.
The whipping boys will be happier playing in Division 2 next year.
Premier Emperor where art thou now!!! :D
I called Galway as well early on, should of saw it coming. The fool us all though in Galway
(note to self - When Galway reach or win All Ireland final - always back the team they meet in the next years All Ireland QF)
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 29, 2013, 09:39:50 PM
I called Galway as well early on, should of saw it coming. The fool us all though in Galway
(note to self - When Galway reach or win All Ireland final - always back the team they meet in the next years All Ireland QF) Must learn some English
>:( >:(
Secret Galway hurling fan Rossfan? Relax yourself.
Shock, horror, surprise! Not.
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/gaa-hurling-league-changes-2014-1109622-Oct2013/
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 01, 2013, 07:04:01 PM
Shock, horror, surprise! Not.
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/gaa-hurling-league-changes-2014-1109622-Oct2013/
Ha, some craic that development team ::)
Early dividend for Limerick for proposing the return of the seeded draw in the Munster SFC. It is all beginning to make sense now.
Ach sure those Div1B teams got stuffed in the championship, didn't they, :o
Full proposal below;
ROINN 1A
Tiobraid Árann
Cill Chainnigh
Gaillimh
Port Láirge
An Clár
Áth Cliath
Corcaigh
Luimneach
Each team to play 7 ordinary rounds.
The top 3 teams contest the Roinn 1 Semi-Finals along with the Roinn 1B winner.
Semi-Finals: Top Team in Roinn 1A v Winner 1B; second team in Roinn 1A v third team in Roinn 1A.
The Semi-Final winners play in the Final.
The eighth placed team relegated to Roinn 1B.
The seventh placed team plays a relegation /promotion play off with the losers of the Roinn 1B Final.
ROINN 1B
Uíbh Fhailí
Loch Garman
Aontroim
Ceatharlach
Laois
Iar Mhí
Each team to play 5 ordinary rounds.
The top 4 teams contest the Roinn 1B Semi-Finals (1 v 4 and 2 v 3).
The Semi-Final winners play in the Roinn 1B Final.
The Roinn 1B Final winner is promoted to Roinn 1A and qualifies for the Roinn 1 Semi-Final.
The Roinn 1B Final loser plays a promotion/relegation play off with Team 7 from Roinn 1A.
The bottom team relegated to Roinn 2A.
ROINN 2A
Ciarraí
Doire
Cill Mhantáin
Cill Dara
An Mhí
Londain
Each team to play 5 ordinary rounds.
The top 2 teams contest the Roinn 2A Final.
The Roinn 2A Final winner is promoted to Roinn 1B.
The bottom team relegated to Roinn 2B.
ROINN 2B
An Dún
Maigh Eo
Ard Mhacha
Ros Comáin
Fingal
Dún na nGall
Each team to play 5 ordinary rounds.
The top 2 teams contest the Roinn 2B Final.
The Roinn 2B Final winner promoted to Roinn 2A.
The bottom team relegated to Roinn 3A.
ROINN 3A
An Lú
Fear Manach
Tír Eoghain
Muineachán
Each team to play 3 ordinary rounds.
The top 2 teams contest the Roinn 3A Final.
The Roinn 3A Final winners are promoted to Roinn 2B.
The bottom team relegated to Roinn 3B
ROINN 3B
Longfort
Sligeach
Warwickshire
Liatroim
Each team to play 3 ordinary rounds.
The top 2 teams contest the Roinn 3B Final.
The Roinn 3B Final winners are promoted to Roinn 3A.
So to help 1B teams to prepare for championship next year you have 2 less games against upper tier type opposition. Promote hurling my arse.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 02, 2013, 12:54:57 PM
So to help 1B teams to prepare for championship next year you have 2 less games against upper tier type opposition. Promote hurling my arse.
This.
Is it not a tad ridiculous that you can potentially win Division 1A and 1B in the same year?
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 02, 2013, 12:54:57 PM
So to help 1B teams to prepare for championship next year you have 2 less games against upper tier type opposition. Promote hurling my arse.
Nothing to do with promoting hurling.
Everything to do with keeping Cork in the top division.
And of course Limerick get in too .
Munster Mafia Rule the GAA as usual.
All they need now is to only allow Munster Refs of games involving Munster teams.( as required by Tony Considine)
A tad NAG? There isn't a single thing about this that isn't ridiculous and to hear Bob Ryan thank the dynamic duo of O'Neill and Duffy for all their help just adds insult to injury.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 02, 2013, 12:54:57 PM
So to help 1B teams to prepare for championship next year you have 2 less games against upper tier type opposition. Promote hurling my arse.
It's calling pulling the ladder up after yourself, now Offaly and Wexford are on the outside pissing in.
And Antrim and Laois And Westmeath and Carlow. I thought the point was that 1B would give those teams games against Div 1 type teams, and in practice those upper teams would recycle every few years.
Until of course one of the three superpowers found themselves in that boat, particularly when you couldn't guarantee that Limerick wouldn't piss on Cork's parade in the 1B final next spring. So to solve that, promote both of them. It actually makes it easier to get promoted from 1B this year, but the fact that the quality of games is lower is the real issue and they don't give a f**k about that..
The sad thing about it is that as soon as Cork were relegated everybody knew that it would happen. These clowns try to pass it off as a great idea to promote hurling when in fact it shows them up for the corrupt schemers that they are.
Restrict the top division to counties who are in double figures in All Ireland wins.
It's a crooked stroke and one that a lot of posters predicted after Cork went down. >:(
It does nothing for the weaker counties.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 03, 2013, 12:22:35 AM
It's a crooked stroke and one that a lot of posters predicted after Cork went down. >:(
It does nothing for the weaker counties.
Its not meant to and neither is the work of these hurling review committees that Croke park churn out every half dozen years or so as they're heavily loaded with lads from traditional counties who are only looking after their own self interests.
Now we'll have the other hurling counties whose county boards are only/main interested in football voting the thing through.
After having one of the best leagues in a long time, giving some of so called weaker counties in 1B games against the next tier teams and helping to raise the level for the weaker counties they go and do this. Leinster and Munster winners came from 1B, the two teams in the 1A relegation playoff in the AI final is that not a sign that there was improvement?
It was one of the more open c'ships in years - back to the dark ages then, wouldn't want to promote hurling!
I think they are all for promoting hurling as long as it doesn't affect the three untouchables. If Clare went down, or Waterford we'd be ploughing ahead.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 04, 2013, 08:10:14 AM
I think they are all for promoting hurling as long as it doesn't affect the three untouchables. If Clare went down, or Waterford we'd be ploughing ahead.
That's it in a nutshell.
Good to see Wexford and Offaly raising their voices against it, but where are the rest? Do Laois, Antrim, Carlow not give a f**k, in fact this also has had a detrimental knock on for Down who have been as good as relegated as well, put in a weaker division than they were, but not a word...
Carlow gain a reprieve from relegation (just like Cork) and Westmeath are promoted (similar to Limerick) so they'll be happy enough.
Quote from: johnneycool on October 08, 2013, 12:31:07 PM
Good to see Wexford and Offaly raising their voices against it, but where are the rest? Do Laois, Antrim, Carlow not give a f**k, in fact this also has had a detrimental knock on for Down who have been as good as relegated as well, put in a weaker division than they were, but not a word...
QuoteAlso at the meeting, St Mary's delegate John Corcoran lamented the fact Cork, having attracted over 320,000 people to championship games this summer, would only have one marquee home game — the opener against Limerick — in the 2014 league following the decision to stay with six teams in Divisions 1A and 1B.
Corcoran declared the alternative options for running the league were "infinitely better" than what will be in place and said that it was almost certain Cork, Limerick, Wexford and Offaly would be in the 2014 quarter-finals.
The St Mary's delegate also hit out at Carlow captain Edward Coady, who had said Central Council was right not to allow Cork "dictate the structure of the league".
Corcoran said: "For somebody from Carlow to be lecturing Cork on hurling is akin to Jedward telling Pavarotti how to sing."
>:( :o ;D
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/rebels-see-appalling-plan-to-change-20m-frees-as-bid-to-nullify-nash-threat-250168.html
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 20, 2013, 12:36:32 PM
QuoteAlso at the meeting, St Mary's delegate John Corcoran lamented the fact Cork, having attracted over 320,000 people to championship games this summer, would only have one marquee home game — the opener against Limerick — in the 2014 league following the decision to stay with six teams in Divisions 1A and 1B.
Corcoran declared the alternative options for running the league were "infinitely better" than what will be in place and said that it was almost certain Cork, Limerick, Wexford and Offaly would be in the 2014 quarter-finals.
The St Mary's delegate also hit out at Carlow captain Edward Coady, who had said Central Council was right not to allow Cork "dictate the structure of the league".
Corcoran said: "For somebody from Carlow to be lecturing Cork on hurling is akin to Jedward telling Pavarotti how to sing."
>:( :o ;D
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/rebels-see-appalling-plan-to-change-20m-frees-as-bid-to-nullify-nash-threat-250168.html
Mark Mullins being the obvious exception unless the said Mr Corcoran forgets. Arrogant p***k.
Reminds me of what Mickey Ned O'Sullivan said to Davey Power on the sideline during the Munster Minor Final two years ago. "What the f**k would someone from Tipp know about football?" I'd say the game ending handshake for Davey was all the sweeter that day.
This whole process has really highlighted the contempt 'hurling' counties hold for every hurler outside their boarders. Insularity in the extreme.
Quote from: Syferus on November 24, 2013, 01:14:10 AM
This whole process has really highlighted the contempt 'hurling' counties hold for every hurler outside their boarders. Insularity in the extreme.
Yes, in such circumstances, the cry of "for the good of hurling" usually means for the "for the good of hurling in our county".