I know most of the Ulster folk who form the majority on this board have no regard for the Int Rules game but a great honour for Paul and Roscommon to see him chosen as Irish team manager.
Comhgáirdeachas Paul and best of luck to one sound chap.
Up the Gortha.
The Aussie Rules games can be fantastic if we find the right balance between physicality and player safety. Good luck, Paul!
Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2013, 04:20:52 PM
I know most of the Ulster folk who form the majority on this board have no regard for the Int Rules game but a great honour for Paul and Roscommon to see him chosen as Irish team manager.
Comhgáirdeachas Paul and best of luck to one sound chap.
You must have spoken in great detail with every member from Ulster on here.
Good luck to Paul Early.
Paul Early is a gentleman.
Best of luck to him.
Wish him the best of luck!
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Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2013, 04:20:52 PM
I know most of the Ulster folk who form the majority on this board have no regard for the Int Rules game but a great honour for Paul and Roscommon to see him chosen as Irish team manager.
Comhgáirdeachas Paul and best of luck to one sound chap.
You must have spoken in great detail with every member from Ulster on here.
No Rodney - just recalling all the disparaging terms used about the game here over the years.
Also 4 posts in over 24 hours would suggest a total lack of interest here. ;)
Well done to Paul & best of luck to him. This appointment is probably the last thing on his mind, his mom passed away at the weekend RIP Kitty.
Congrats to Paul on the honour of Managing his Country. Have to say you don't have to be from Ulster to not care about the game. Total waste of time. The Aussies either send a team that don't care or care too much and beat the crap physically outta us. The disgust either way has turned me off of it. Time and energy would be better spent on promoting the game in Britain, Europe and beyond. There's loads of great work going on around the world that goes untapped.
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2013, 07:22:14 PM
Congrats to Paul on the honour of Managing his Country. Have to say you don't have to be from Ulster to not care about the game. Total waste of time. The Aussies either send a team that don't care or care too much and beat the crap physically outta us. The disgust either way has turned me off of it. Time and energy would be better spent on promoting the game in Britain, Europe and beyond. There's loads of great work going on around the world that goes untapped.
+1
Waste of time and effort. Lets promote OUR OWN games!
It's a joke of a game surely its time to give it the boot.
It's on its knees. Not much interest after the slapping and bating was banned. Time to send for Canavan, Geraghty,Lyons and boys like Mc Gilligan.
The GAA have not been approached officially or informally by the AFL about the possibility that this year's international rules series could be contested by a team exclusively composed of indigenous footballers.
According to the AFL website, the idea surfaced on Australian television yesterday when AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou told Channel Nine's Footy Show : "Yes, it is one of the options we are now considering. We have canvassed the views of indigenous players."
He added that the Australian football authorities hadn't discussed the matter with their Irish counterparts.
Pat Daly, Croke Park's director of games development and research who is also the principal technical liaison with the AFL in respect of the international series, confirmed that the initiative hadn't been floated over here in advance of next October's series but that the question of an indigenous Australian team had arisen in another context.
"The involvement of an indigenous Australian team has been under consideration in the context of a cultural event, which the GAA are looking at holding in Sydney. The whole concept of international rules is very much rooted in sporting culture and heritage and recognising indigenous players would obviously be in keeping with that.
"But look, we've heard nothing about this in relation to senior internationals so we're not in a position to comment on it."
A similar weekend of cultural events was organised in Ennis last October around the staging of the hurling-shinty international series against Scotland.
Waning public interest
Although nothing has been concluded in Australia the floating of the idea has come against the backdrop of waning public interest in the internationals Down Under.
Attendances at the series in Australia have been in decline for the past 10 years. From a position where aggregate crowds of over 100,000 attended the two Tests in Perth and Melbourne in 2003, the numbers fell by almost two thirds to 35,466 when the series was last played there, in Melbourne and the Gold Coast, two years ago.
The primary problem then was that the home challenge was very poor with Ireland winning both Tests overwhelmingly. Interestingly Australia's biggest win in 2005 came about as a result of a selection, featuring an emphasis on indigenous footballers, whose speed and ball skills then coach Kevin Sheedy believed would be ideally suited to the game.
It's not clear what the impact would be on the series in Ireland if the Australian team is perceived not to be representative of all of the best players in the AFL.
GAA director general Páraic Duffy said in Melbourne in 2011 that the series would not have a future unless interest amongst the AFL public picked up because Irish crowds wouldn't continue to attend in numbers if it became clear that there was no longer reciprocal interest:
Attendance figures
"When you have only two countries involved in a competition and in one attendance figures suggest a certain apathy, it does certainly raise questions long term."
The AFL website also reports that this year's series will be played as a tribute to former Dublin minor All-Ireland winner and Melbourne Brownlow medallist, the late Jim Stynes, who played international rules for both countries and after whom the medal for the best AFL player over the two Tests is named.
Daly also confirmed that the standing committee on the playing rules, of which he is the secretary, would not be deliberating on further rule changes for the foreseeable future – unless an emergency were to arise.
"The proposals of the football review committee accepted for introduction next year are in the pipeline and until we've had a chance to see how they bed in, there's unlikely to be any further proposals.
"In relation to hurling we've had the findings in recent years of the hurling rules committee chaired by Simon Moroney that there were no major issues that needed addressing as well as the standing committee, which pretty much decided the same thing.
"One of the big arguments for the FRC proposals was based on them having nothing to do with hurling because those involved in hurling were strongly of the view that the game didn't require rule changes. So that's the situation at the moment unless something unexpected arises."
QuoteThe whole concept of international rules is very much rooted in sporting culture and heritage
Sure it is.
I'm glad they're sending an ingenious team.
The last crowd were useless.
Be a hard sell for the 2nd game in Croker if the first game is a completely lob-sided, a couple of thousand at that would surely signal the end to the series
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Be a hard sell for the 2nd game in Croker if the first game is a completely lob-sided, a couple of thousand at that would surely signal the end to the series
Don't forget the next series would be in Oz so the plane will be full.
Quote from: Jinxy on May 13, 2013, 01:40:10 PM
I'm glad they're sending an ingenious team.
The last crowd were useless.
"Indigenous" team. Should be a fair bit of genius on display if they get the best Aboriginal lads into the team.
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
It's probably the only way to engineer interest in the series in Australia.
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Quote from: Jinxy on May 13, 2013, 01:40:10 PM
I'm glad they're sending an ingenious team.
The last crowd were useless.
"Indigenous" team. Should be a fair bit of genius on display if they get the best Aboriginal lads into the team.
Oh right.
::)
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Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
It's probably the only way to engineer interest in the series in Australia.
Never mind Australia.
They could send a team of kangaroos wearing those hats with the corks on them and I still wouldn't pay to watch this muck.
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Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
It's probably the only way to engineer interest in the series in Australia.
Never mind Australia.
They could send a team of kangaroos wearing those hats with the corks on them and I still wouldn't pay to watch this muck.
+1
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They could send a team of kangaroos wearing those hats with the corks on them and I still wouldn't pay to watch this muck.
+1
That's two spare seats anyway :D
I'll be able to bring the kids along so.
Always go to the Int Rules and have every intention of going again this time no matter what colour or ethnic origin the Ozs are.
Jinxy, if you corner Pierce and Tommy at the match you might convince to give up this wild AFL craic and return home to Mother Hibernia. Could be worth attending.
Quote from: Syferus on May 14, 2013, 06:08:21 PM
Jinxy, if you corner Pierce you might convince to give up this wild AFL craic and return home to Mother Hibernia.
Only if he's prepared to play for his native County not the one his silly local GAA club affiliate to.
Plenty of empty houses in Ros where we could get him a nice address with lovely views of the Shannon.
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Quote from: Syferus on May 14, 2013, 06:08:21 PM
Jinxy, if you corner Pierce you might convince to give up this wild AFL craic and return home to Mother Hibernia.
Only if he's prepared to play for his native County not the one his silly local GAA club affiliate to.
Plenty of empty houses in Ros where we could get him a nice address with lovely views of the Shannon.
His parents are lovely Loughglynn people. I reckon this AFL craic is just a roundabout way by poor Pierce to prevent Ballagh GAA from stopping him playing for his county. Once biten, twice shy.. :-X
Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
Novelty factor. I think most AFL fans would be happy for a such a team to be picked provided all the high profile lads made themselves available.
Somebody (maybe me) suggested we send a team of travellers a few years back.
It might be time to revisit this idea.
I'd pay good money to see the Longford Nevins and the Joyces run riot.
Delete that disgusting post Jinxy >:(
Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2013, 01:50:54 PM
Delete that disgusting post Jinxy >:(
You sneer at Hanley's playing for Mayo, because of your own prejudice, and yet you have a problem with Jinxy?
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Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2013, 01:50:54 PM
Delete that disgusting post Jinxy >:(
You sneer at Hanley's playing for Mayo, because of your own prejudice, and yet you have a problem with Jinxy?
It's not sneering to state a fact, Mupp.
we need the best all rounders in oz
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Don't like the new Irish Jersey! Don't know why?
Actually, Now I know why. It's the sponsor. Talk about subliminal thinking.
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Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
It's probably the only way to engineer interest in the series in Australia.
Never mind Australia.
They could send a team of kangaroos wearing those hats with the corks on them and I still wouldn't pay to watch this muck.
+1
+2
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Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
It's probably the only way to engineer interest in the series in Australia.
Never mind Australia.
They could send a team of kangaroos wearing those hats with the corks on them and I still wouldn't pay to watch this muck.
+1
+2
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Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
It's probably the only way to engineer interest in the series in Australia.
Never mind Australia.
They could send a team of kangaroos wearing those hats with the corks on them and I still wouldn't pay to watch this muck.
+1
+2
Bet when it comes to October ye will still watch it regardless :)
It's only once a year (every second year now), the best players in Ireland playing together, don't know how ye are so against it.. The last few series have been trouble free..
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Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
It's probably the only way to engineer interest in the series in Australia.
Never mind Australia.
They could send a team of kangaroos wearing those hats with the corks on them and I still wouldn't pay to watch this muck.
+1
+2
Bet when it comes to October ye will still watch it regardless :)
It's only once a year (every second year now), the best players in Ireland playing together, don't know how ye are so against it.. The last few series have been trouble free..
May take a peak on TV, but I won't be paying to see that muck. As for the best Players - Gooch never plays in the series?
The players themselves are major fans. That's ok by me and I'll be buying tickets.
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Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
It's probably the only way to engineer interest in the series in Australia.
Never mind Australia.
They could send a team of kangaroos wearing those hats with the corks on them and I still wouldn't pay to watch this muck.
+1
+2
Bet when it comes to October ye will still watch it regardless :)
It's only once a year (every second year now), the best players in Ireland playing together, don't know how ye are so against it.. The last few series have been trouble free..
May take a peak on TV, but I won't be paying to see that muck. As for the best Players - Gooch never plays in the series?
He never plays as thinks he is not suited for the game. Lots of big name players play, Darren O Sullivan was keen on playing the last time only for club commitments.
Bernard Brogan always plays. Graham Canty. Michael Murphy,
The last series some of the big names had club commitments and couldn't travel. It was still a strong panel. First test is in Breffni, i'll be heading anyways.
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Quote from: Hardy on May 14, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Why is this race-based distinction fostered in Aussie Rules?
It's probably the only way to engineer interest in the series in Australia.
Never mind Australia.
They could send a team of kangaroos wearing those hats with the corks on them and I still wouldn't pay to watch this muck.
+1
+2
Bet when it comes to October ye will still watch it regardless :)
It's only once a year (every second year now), the best players in Ireland playing together, don't know how ye are so against it.. The last few series have been trouble free..
May take a peak on TV, but I won't be paying to see that muck. As for the best Players - Gooch never plays in the series?
That's kinda like asking why Messi doesn't moonlight as a back rower for Argentina's rugby team.
I recommend an Irish team made up of entirely Kildare players. The right size to boss the Aussies about and all those wides suddenly become a massive plus.
If they actually hit the target? Gravy.
It's now confirmed - but the spin they're putting on this is laughable.
The AFL will send an all-indigenous side for the two-test International Rules series with Ireland in Cavan and Croke Park in October.
The Australia side, set to be named in September, is expected to feature the likes of Hawthorn forwards Lance Franklin and Cyril Rioli and Sydney's dual Brownlow medallist Adam Goodes.
Goodes is the most high profile indigenous player in AFL and was captain of the Australian team that won the 2010 International Rules series with victories over Ireland at the Gaelic Grounds in Limerick and Croke Park.
Former Kerry star Tadhg Kennelly will assist head coach Michael O'Loughlin in coaching the tourists.
Kennelly and O'Loughlin were teammates on the Sydney Swans team, that won the AFL Championship in 2005.
Interest in the hybrid game has waned in Australia following the 2011 series when Ireland won 2-0 and many of the AFL's top stars did not make themselves available.
AFL Deputy CEO Gillon McLachlan said: "To the best of our knowledge, the All Stars representing the AFL in International Rules against Ireland will be the first All-Indigenous team to represent a national sporting code at senior level overseas since the first cricket team toured England in 1868."
McLachlan continued: "This series has needed reinvigoration.
"The fact that senior indigenous players like Adam Goodes, Buddy Franklin, Shaun Burgoyne and others have said 'we want to play representing the indigenous all-stars' ... was exciting for us.
"That commitment carries a lot of weight."
Little dickish for Tadgh to be helping the Aussies.
Them sending off these lads against the GAA's wishes tells you the series is on the way out unless the Aussies cop on.
Quote from: Syferus on July 04, 2013, 02:54:17 PM
Little dickish for Tadgh to be helping the Aussies.
Them sending off these lads against the GAA's wishes tells you the series is on the way out unless the Aussies cop on.
There'll be a plane load next year taking off from Dublin for their 3 week
holiday test series.
There's still huge interest in this game.
Quote from: orangeman on July 04, 2013, 03:07:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 04, 2013, 02:54:17 PM
Little dickish for Tadgh to be helping the Aussies.
Them sending off these lads against the GAA's wishes tells you the series is on the way out unless the Aussies cop on.
There'll be a plane load next year taking off from Dublin for their 3 week holiday test series.
There's still huge interest in this game.
In Ireland. I don't think the Aussies give a f**k anymore.
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Quote from: orangeman on July 04, 2013, 03:07:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 04, 2013, 02:54:17 PM
Little dickish for Tadgh to be helping the Aussies.
Them sending off these lads against the GAA's wishes tells you the series is on the way out unless the Aussies cop on.
There'll be a plane load next year taking off from Dublin for their 3 week holiday test series.
There's still huge interest in this game.
In Ireland. I don't think the Aussies give a f**k anymore.
I don't think the Irish care that much either to be honest.
A gimmick to try to "reinvigorate" something that was already a gimmick.
Maybe we should have a team of Native American Indians in next years Connacht championship.
Please GAA put this crap to sleep for good.
Quote from: fearglasmor on July 04, 2013, 04:51:08 PM
A gimmick to try to "reinvigorate" something that was already a gimmick.
Maybe we should have a team of Native American Indians in next years Connacht championship.
Please GAA put this crap to sleep for good.
It's
still better than Ulster football, though.
So the Aussies are going to be known as the " Indigenous All Stars" - what should we call the Irish team ? Paddy Whackeroos ?
FEARS about the future of the International Rules series have increased again after Australia, as expected, confirmed their decision to send an exclusively indigenous team to represent them this season.
The GAA have "expressed concerns" to the AFL as their team of largely lesser-known players may not attract the necessary crowds to Kingspan Breffni Park (October 19) and Croke Park (October 26) to make the series viable. It will be only the second time that an all-indigenous team will represent Australia in a sporting fixture after a cricket team that toured England in 1868.
"We can recognise the historical significance of it but we would have expressed concerns to the AFL of the possible impact of limiting the squad to one group of players," the GAA's director of games administration and player welfare, Feargal McGill, admitted.
"The International Rules has been about putting out the best Irish players against the best Australian players, and this is a bit of a departure.
"Notwithstanding that, we accept Australia will be represented by a strong team and there is plenty to suggest they will be stronger than their team on the last occasion (2011)."
Former Premiership and All-Ireland winner Tadhg Kennelly will be a coaching assistant for the touring team, who will be known as 'The Indigenous All Stars'. Ireland's team will be managed by Paul Earley and his back room includes Ciaran Whelan, Tony Scullion and Seamus McCarthy.
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Quote from: Syferus on July 04, 2013, 02:54:17 PM
Little dickish for Tadgh to be helping the Aussies.
Them sending off these lads against the GAA's wishes tells you the series is on the way out unless the Aussies cop on.
There'll be a plane load next year taking off from Dublin for their 3 week holiday test series.
There's still huge interest in this game.
Lads who think this daft circus makes them 'international' sportsmen love it.
The likes of Stevie McDonnell for example, who unforgivably compared it to winning an All Ireland title.
The general public don't care.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 05, 2013, 01:41:56 PM
The general public don't care.
Attendance figures in Ireland sine 1998 would strongly suggest otherwise. ;)
In recent years they don't care.
Not since they took the fights out.
The tickets are dirt cheap and clubs use it as an opportunity to take a scatter of kids for a day out.
Lets be honest, if they jacked it in tomorrow no one would be that bothered.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 05, 2013, 03:25:33 PM
Lets be honest, if they jacked it in tomorrow no one would be that bothered.
You could say the same about the FBD, O'Byrne etc , Junior Championship, NFL, Railway Cups................
Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2013, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 05, 2013, 03:25:33 PM
Lets be honest, if they jacked it in tomorrow no one would be that bothered.
You could say the same about the FBD, O'Byrne etc , Junior Championship, NFL, Railway Cups................
You could also say that FBD, O'Byrne etc, Junior Championship, NFL, Railway Cups (although they don't exist) were Gaelic Football or Hurling competitions.
Though I'd scrap the FBD, O'Byrne, McKenna etc also
Quote from: fearglasmor on July 05, 2013, 04:33:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2013, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 05, 2013, 03:25:33 PM
Lets be honest, if they jacked it in tomorrow no one would be that bothered.
You could say the same about the FBD, O'Byrne etc , Junior Championship, NFL, Railway Cups................
You could also say that FBD, O'Byrne etc, Junior Championship, NFL, Railway Cups (although they don't exist) were Gaelic Football or Hurling competitions.
Though I'd scrap the FBD, O'Byrne, McKenna etc also
The FBD, O'Byrne, mc Kenna cups are effectively challenge matches at which the provincial councils can charge into !
Do you know where that money goes?
Quote from: Syferus on July 04, 2013, 06:07:39 PM
Quote from: fearglasmor on July 04, 2013, 04:51:08 PM
A gimmick to try to "reinvigorate" something that was already a gimmick.
Maybe we should have a team of Native American Indians in next years Connacht championship.
Please GAA put this crap to sleep for good.
It's still better than Ulster football, though.
As oppose to Connacht football being free flowing, all out attack. Maybe that's why Ross were hammered by Mayo?
The best game in the Championship this year was between Derry and Down.
Donegal and Down was a good tactical battle too , with some great scores.
Not one sided hammerings like in Connacht
Quote from: Syferus on July 04, 2013, 02:54:17 PM
Little dickish for Tadgh to be helping the Aussies.
Them sending off these lads against the GAA's wishes tells you the series is on the way out unless the Aussies cop on.
If they get the likes of Franklin, Burgouyne, Goodes, Rioli, Jetta, Davey etc they'll probably beat Ireland again though
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Quote from: Syferus on July 04, 2013, 02:54:17 PM
Little dickish for Tadgh to be helping the Aussies.
Them sending off these lads against the GAA's wishes tells you the series is on the way out unless the Aussies cop on.
If they get the likes of Franklin, Burgouyne, Goodes, Rioli, Jetta, Davey etc they'll probably beat Ireland again though
Better they beat us with their best and try and excite the Australian and Irish public by it being a true all-star series than sending some New Zealand Maori/Catlonia national team rip-off with none of those sides' tradition or history. For a country that got hockeyed at home last time to
down-grade the quality of opposition they're sending is a huge insult to the GAA and to the series itself.