Westmeath team for Sunday against Louth
Gary Connaughton; Mark McCallon, Kieran Gavin, Kevin McGuire; Michael Curley, Paul Sharry, Doron Harte; Paul Bannon, John Heslin; Ger Egan, Callum McCormack, Kieran Martin; Ronan Foley, James Dolan, Denis Glennon.
Not bad, wouldn't expect them to line out like that. Dessie out injured, time we beat this shower in the league.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2013/0131/365456-preview-allianz-football-league-division-2/
Greetings from Wexford Park!
HT
Wexford 1-02
Longford 1-07
Longford had a middling breeze in first half. Michael Quinn having great game for Longford
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 03, 2013, 03:10:06 PM
HT
Wexford 1-02
Longford 1-07
Longford had a middling breeze in first half. Michael Quinn having great game for Longford
Ye must be sickened. We were 9 points down at one stage. First 30 minutes of the game were some of the worst I've seen Wexford play in the last 10 years. Absolutely brutal stuff. Just glad the Bardon an Kavanagh weren't playing. Ye found it nearly impossible to score against the wind in the second half and missed some fairly handy frees too. We started to dominate around the middle of the park and Ben Brosnan kept banging over the frees. The goal sealed it then. Great result for us but an awful performance.
What is it with Longford and being unable to hang on agaisnt the yellow bellies, League final last year aside?! Even a draw wouldnt have been a bad start but too many narrow defeats could cost us. Sounds like a decent showing desite the tight defeat, must win game next up at home to Westmeath.
Who showed up well today Shamrock? Bit of a spin to Wexford Park for you!
Usual Longfords in the crowd Qywerty. I live in Dublin and the auld lad and brother were passing by the door almost so I took a lift.
If 'How to lose a match you should win' was a Leaving Cert subject Longford would get A+++ in their recent games against Wexford. Wexford were awful in first half. Longford di have a strong breeze but the concession of a goal on the stroke of half time took an 8 pt cushion into a 5 pt one and more than one Longford supporter there felt that it wasn't enough.
We were poor in the second half, bar Quinn. McCormack missed at least 3 very scoreable frees and we got caught cold for WX's second goal.
We'll see how things are in the upcoming matches........
Big one for ye next week Shamrock.
The Celtic v Rangers of Gaelic Football.
Blew 2 points today , conceded 2 soft goals, missed up to 5 frees , last 2 free's for Wexford on another day would probably been given as frees out. Michael Brady had some good moments ,but Longford senior management must heal whatever rift is there between them and James Mc Givney. The panel is too small to let a player of his potential off. Also our free takers must start taking frees off the ground when conditions are like today.Kicking high balls into a strong wind is nearly always a recipe for disaster. Surprising with Padraig Davis on the management Contrast our efforts with that of Brosan who scored 2 out of 2 from about 35m when he was kicking into the wind and successful with 3 out of 4 in the second with 1 dropping short. We missed 4 into the wind also kicked a 45 m into the wind wide.
As comprehensive a 1 point victory as you're ever likely to see in Cusack Park yesterday. Louth got two fortuitous goals early on and Doran Harte was shown the door in the 20th minute. Despite being 6 points and a man down Westmeath were by far the better team from there on in. Shane Lennon caused us big problems but apart from that it was just a matter of keeping the effort going. Poor start from us though, need to start games at a higher tempo and when goal opportunities present themselves we need to work the goal. Slashers up next, it's in Castle Greyskull and need the points in what will be a very competitive division.
QuoteSlashers up next
must....not...rise...to...this.....
QuoteCastle Greyskull
new one on me!
Same wind as what we played against in the first half. If we win our other two home games and Longford or Wexford away we'll be okay, win them all and we'll be pushing for promotion. What was wrong with Paddy Keenan? Didn't seem to be lumbering in his half time warm up but didn't get into the game at all when he came on.
Thought there was suppose to be highlights of Wexford Longford on Sunday sport but cant find them on the rte player....ah well dont think i missed much apart from another tight defeat!
Next up the midlands Classico....home advantage should be worth a few points but need to make the most of it.
Quote from: Qwerty28 on February 04, 2013, 09:27:19 PM
Thought there was suppose to be highlights of Wexford Longford on Sunday sport but cant find them on the rte player....ah well dont think i missed much apart from another tight defeat!
Next up the midlands Classico....home advantage should be worth a few points but need to make the most of it.
There was highlights of the daylight robbery on GAA 2013 on TG4 last night.
Quotedaylight robbery
Wouldn't call it that Croí - we were the agents of our own downfall.
Cannot bear to watch it on TG4 player.
They were blessed - from the highlights - I know.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 05, 2013, 09:07:28 AM
Quotedaylight robbery
Wouldn't call it that Croí - we were the agents of our own downfall.
Cannot bear to watch it on TG4 player.
Most of us on the board are gagging for GAA matches after the long hiatus since September but it is only the League ,Shamrock, and if the larries can learn some harsh lessons in Feb that will stand to them in July, all the better.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 05, 2013, 09:07:28 AM
Quotedaylight robbery
Wouldn't call it that Croí - we were the agents of our own downfall.
Cannot bear to watch it on TG4 player.
Thanks for the tip Shamrock, didn't realise there was a TG4 Player .... will check it out later.
I caught the last 15 mins on Shannonside, and the local commentary felt the few frees late in the second half that WX were awarded were harsh enough. Considering the Longford backs didn't concede a single point from play to the entire WX forward line, it's a tough pill to swallow coming away with nothing. Maybe in the conditions they could have stood off the man a bit and took their chances on him missing from play. One of the late frees was for a pick-up off the ground, which again the Shannonside boys thought was harsh ....
At this time of year it's usually a game of two halves in Wexford Park with the wind blowing straight down the pitch. The local team have a bit of an edge there as they're so used to playing in those kind of games ....
I've put together a video analysing Michael Meehan's goal against Derry for anyone interested http://action81.com/blog/?p=6657
It is great to see Meehan back.
Quote from: emmetryan on February 05, 2013, 10:16:15 PM
I've put together a video analysing Michael Meehan's goal against Derry for anyone interested http://action81.com/blog/?p=6657
I'll save you the bother. It was horrific defending!!
Hard to disagree!
An Lú V Gaillimh,Gallagher, Rath,O'Hare,Hoey,O'Brien,Crilly,AReid; Keenan,Donnelly,McDonnell,Brennan,McEneaney,Judge,Lennon,Clarke
Westmeath team: Gary Connaughton; Mark McCallion, Kieran Gavin, Kevin McGuire; Michael Curley, Paul Sharry, James Dolan; Denis Corroon, John Heslin; Ger Egan, Callum McCormack, Kieran Martin; Ronan Foley, Dessie Dolan, Denis Glennon.
Good to see Dessie being able to start and James to half back was a no brainer as he did ok there after Doran got the line last weekend. Corroon must be going well in training as Bannon did ok last weekend I thought and Corroon wasn't on the pitch long enough to impress. Need to start well this week.
Division 2
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Laois 1 1 0 0 0-20 1-10 2
2 Westmea 1 1 0 0 0-16 2-9 2
3 Galway 1 1 0 0 1-15 0-15 2
4 Wexford 1 1 0 0 2-8 1-10 2
5 Longford 1 0 0 1 1-10 2-8 0
6 Derry 1 0 0 1 0-15 1-15 0
7 Louth 1 0 0 1 2-9 0-16 0
8 Armagh 1 0 0 1 1-10 0-20 0
4 leinster counties agus contae na mi thios. The new normal. Anyway best of luck to the larries.
Thanks seafoid.
Conflicted tomorrow.
Do I travel to see aimless handpassing in Pearse Park or stay at home and watch aimless kicking from the Aviva.
Like all Larries I will leave it until the last moment to decide. Hard to ignore a clash with the WH lads and I cannot bear to 'watch' it on Roscommonside radio as I am sure it will again be heavily weighted to whatever gimps Roscommon are playing.
Pitch unplayable. Galway vs Louth is OFF
Armagh v Wexford off too.Heard that on facebook,all the way from Milan,no kidding!
Longford 1-04
Westmeath 0-04
coming up to half time.
Good win for Derry . Looking hard enough for the Larries .
Poor performance from us yesterday on an awful day for football. Lots of handling errors due to the conditions from both sides. Michael Quinn was a delight to watch though, was at the heart of anything Longford produced and would be right up there with Lacey as one of the best center backs in the country.
The positives to take were that we took our goals well even if there was no great science behind them. Also to win away whilst not playing great can't be overlooked in this division. Callum McCormack is turning into a diamond of a footballer, scored some lovely points again in the first half while he was a little subdued in the second.
4 points from 4, we can go to Tuam now in 3 weeks with no pressure on us and can just concentrate on getting a good performance, a decent start to the league for the first time in years.
Why is it so quiet in here?
Quote from: Dangleberrys on February 12, 2013, 03:00:25 PM
Why is it so quiet in here?
Why would you bother when your scores are not chalked up.....
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=185532
and referees are trying to get as many players off the field as possible
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=185523
Quote from: Dangleberrys on February 12, 2013, 03:00:25 PM
Why is it so quiet in here?
No Cavan,Tyrone or Monaghan in this division those guys love talking about themselves.
Hard to get excited about the football we are currently playing :-\
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Quote from: drici on February 23, 2013, 04:14:43 PM
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Is it top 2 plays off in a final to decide the winner of eah division this year?
I thought the game was tomorrow >:( got dragged round Newry shopping ffs.
Division 2
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Westmeath 2 2 0 0 2-23 3-17 4
2 Wexford 2 1 0 0 5-16 4-18 3
3 Derry 2 1 0 1 1-32 3-26 2
4 Laois 2 1 0 1 2-31 2-27 2
5 Louth 2 1 0 1 2-26 0-27 2
6 Galway 2 1 0 1 1-26 0-32 2
7 Armagh 2 0 0 1 4-18 3-28 1
8 Longford 2 0 0 2 2-18 4-15 0
Quote from: Shortso79 on February 24, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
Division 2
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Westmeath 2 2 0 0 2-23 3-17 4
2 Wexford 2 1 0 0 5-16 4-18 3
3 Derry 2 1 0 1 1-32 3-26 2
4 Laois 2 1 0 1 2-31 2-27 2
5 Louth 2 1 0 1 2-26 0-27 2
6 Galway 2 1 0 1 1-26 0-32 2
7 Armagh 2 0 0 1 4-18 3-28 1
8 Longford 2 0 0 2 2-18 4-15 0
Only one team on 4 points and they are hardly head and shoulders above the rest like Tyrone last year.
Quote from: Shortso79 on February 24, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
Division 2
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Westmeath 2 2 0 0 2-23 3-17 4
2 Wexford 2 1 0 0 5-16 4-18 3
3 Derry 2 1 0 1 1-32 3-26 2
4 Laois 2 1 0 1 2-31 2-27 2
5 Louth 2 1 0 1 2-26 0-27 2
6 Galway 2 1 0 1 1-26 0-32 2
7 Armagh 2 0 0 1 4-18 3-28 1
8 Longford 2 0 0 2 2-18 4-15 0
she is wan swonkey league table hi
Quote from: seafoid on February 24, 2013, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on February 24, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
Division 2
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Westmeath 2 2 0 0 2-23 3-17 4
2 Wexford 2 1 0 0 5-16 4-18 3
3 Derry 2 1 0 1 1-32 3-26 2
4 Laois 2 1 0 1 2-31 2-27 2
5 Louth 2 1 0 1 2-26 0-27 2
6 Galway 2 1 0 1 1-26 0-32 2
7 Armagh 2 0 0 1 4-18 3-28 1
8 Longford 2 0 0 2 2-18 4-15 0
Only one team on 4 points and they are hardly head and shoulders above the rest like Tyrone last year.
WATCH IT! Better than expected start for Wexford.
Westmeath team v Galway:
1/Connaughton
2/McCallum
3/Gavin
4/Maguire
5/M.Curley
6/Harte
7/J.Dolan
8/Corroon
9/Heslin
10/Egan
11/McCormack
12/Martin
13/Foley
14/C.Curley
15/Dennis Glennon
Des Dolan and Sharry injured. Two big losses.
What's wrong with Sharry shark? Big losses is right. Good chance for young Curley to show if he can step up though, hope Dessie is able for the last 10 if it's in the balance.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on February 27, 2013, 04:24:54 PM
What's wrong with Sharry shark? Big losses is right. Good chance for young Curley to show if he can step up though, hope Dessie is able for the last 10 if it's in the balance.
Not 100% certain but I believe he has a long standing groin injury that causes problems at times.
1 Westmeath 3 2 0 1 42 39 5
2 Derry 3 2 1 0 24 45 4
3 Galway 3 1 1 1 42 15 3
4 Louth 3 1 1 1 52 47 3
5 Laois 3 1 1 1 57 53 3
6 Armagh 3 1 1 1 47 52 3
7 Wexford 3 1 1 1 41 49 3
8 Longford 3 0 3 0 39 44 0
Threw away a 6 point half-time lead today. Most frustrating. Continuing our trend of good first halves and terrible second halves. Been the same in all 3 league games so far.
I get the sense that there is very little between the teams in division 2. There's already been 3 or 4 draws and anyone seems capable of beating anyone else on a given day. Could be very very tight for both promotion and relegation.
Great win for Derry today! Wexford never an easy place to go. Mc Ivor seems to be restoring a bit of pride in the jersey!
Looks like at least 6 or 7 points will be needed to be sure of avoiding relegation.
Hard to see Armagh getting 6 or 7 points unless there is a marked improvement.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 03, 2013, 06:35:54 PM
Threw away a 6 point half-time lead today. Most frustrating. Continuing our trend of good first halves and terrible second halves. Been the same in all 3 league games so far.
I get the sense that there is very little between the teams in division 2. There's already been 3 or 4 draws and anyone seems capable of beating anyone else on a given day. Could be very very tight for both promotion and relegation.
5 teams on 3 points. It is very bunched.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 03, 2013, 06:35:54 PM
Threw away a 6 point half-time lead today. Most frustrating. Continuing our trend of good first halves and terrible second halves. Been the same in all 3 league games so far.
I get the sense that there is very little between the teams in division 2. There's already been 3 or 4 draws and anyone seems capable of beating anyone else on a given day. Could be very very tight for both promotion and relegation.
From a Westmeath perspective I'd say we didn't show up in the first half (again) and you saw what Westmeath are capable of in the second half. We got to grips around the middle when Duffy came on at half time and started to win some of the breaking ball, whereas Galway were mopping up all the breaking ball in the first half. It was good to come away with a draw, we were out on our feet at the end due the effort required in the second half and our performance in that half deserved it I feel.
Best for Westmeath were Ger Egan and Kieran Martin. Glennon looked lively and we didn't get enough ball into him. Conroy caused us all manner of problems and perhaps unfair on Doran Harte to put him in there on him where he isn't suited. Flanagan to be fair made the hard calls that needed to be made at ht but should've thrown on bodies when our legs started to tire. Galway emptied the bench and it nearly got them over the line. Great to come away from Tuam unbeaten. I'd say there are some sore bodies today though, it was a very physical match, Kieran Gavin picked up a nasty looking facial injury and had to come off, nothing too serious I hope.
Btw, does Marty Duffy think that there are different rules for playing with and against the wind?
Team for Sunday:
Gary Connaughton,
Mark McCallon, Kieran Gavin (Captain), Kevin Maguire,
Micheál Curley, John Gaffey, James Dolan,
David Duffy, John Heslin,
Ger Egan, Callum McCormack, Kieran Martin,
Denis Corroon, Ciaran Curley, Denis Glennon.
Good to see Kieran Gavin able to play, will be interesting to see how Gaffey gets on center back from the start. Also to see if Corroon is up to the job in the half forwards although he could be left inside as he did well there in the Kerry game last year. Have to start well this week.
Up to date table
1 Westmeath 4 3 0 7
2 Derry 4 2 1 1 5
3 Galway 4 2 1 1 5
4 Wexford 4 2 1 1 5
5 Armagh 4 1 1 2 4
6 Laois 4 1 2 1 3
7 Louth 4 1 2 1 3
8 Longford 4 0 4 0 0
Still tight but not looking good for Longford unfortunately.
Aye - we're fooked!
Westmeath motoring well now, ground it out against Laois and broke their spirit. Probably deserved to win by more than two. Were three points down at half time after playing against the wind. Would have been a level if we had tracked the runner for the goal. Kept Laois to 2 points in the second half but you could see just before half time that they were cracking under the pressure in the middle third. We were working like wolves in there, anytime a Laois man was checked and held up there'd be two more Westmeath lads on top of him tearing away at the ball. The work rate is something to be admired although we need to be quicker to bring in fresh legs.
Heslin probably had his best game since that U21 game against Eastmeath in 2010. The free he put over from the 21 yard line out on the sideline was something else. Ger Egan once again got through a trojan amount of work and constantly left Billy Sheehan in his wake. Kieran Gavin looked very assured marking a man twice his size and didn't looked to be troubled at all by that nasty facial injury he picked up last week. The two corner backs are very settled in there and James Dolan in particular is really finding his feet in wing back. Gaffey did well in center back but will do well to keep Sharry out of there.
Duffy did well but needs to hold on to them balls after doing the hard work of getting up there. Corroon had a much better game than last week and hopefully he can settle into the half forwards. Kieran Martin his usual solid self as was Callum. Glennon did ok and Curley showed really well with one of the best corner backs in the business marking him. Pity he doesn't offer more of a scoring threat.
Safe from relegation now anyway, yellow bellies next. Least we should be more competitive than our last trip down there. Next couple of games definitely winnable and if that happens should be looking at promotion. Positive start to the season.
Edit: Forgot to mention Callum McCormacks 70 yard sprint back to put pressure on the ball and he succeeded in turning over possession, nearly as good as a score, great to see and lifted both the crowd and the players at a critical time.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 11, 2013, 10:33:50 AM
Westmeath motoring well now, ground it out against Laois and broke their spirit. Probably deserved to win by more than two. Were three points down at half time after playing against the wind. Would have been a level if we had tracked the runner for the goal. Kept Laois to 2 points in the second half but you could see just before half time that they were cracking under the pressure in the middle third. We were working like wolves in there, anytime a Laois man was checked and held up there'd be two more Westmeath lads on top of him tearing away at the ball. The work rate is something to be admired although we need to be quicker to bring in fresh legs.
Heslin probably had his best game since that U21 game against Eastmeath in 2010. The free he put over from the 21 yard line out on the sideline was something else. Ger Egan once again got through a trojan amount of work and constantly left Billy Sheehan in his wake. Kieran Gavin looked very assured marking a man twice his size and didn't looked to be troubled at all by that nasty facial injury he picked up last week. The two corner backs are very settled in there and James Dolan in particular is really finding his feet in wing back. Gaffey did well in center back but will do well to keep Sharry out of there.
Duffy did well but needs to hold on to them balls after doing the hard work of getting up there. Corroon had a much better game than last week and hopefully he can settle into the half forwards. Kieran Martin his usual solid self as was Callum. Glennon did ok and Curley showed really well with one of the best corner backs in the business marking him. Pity he doesn't offer more of a scoring threat.
Safe from relegation now anyway, yellow bellies next. Least we should be more competitive than our last trip down there. Next couple of games definitely winnable and if that happens should be looking at promotion. Positive start to the season.
Very encouraging start. The main plusses being:
1/ A definite gameplan that the team has bought in to.
2/ The unearthing of a couple of new players at this level, especially Ciaran Curley whose ball winning abilities are second to none.
3/ The continuing development of John Heslin in to one of the top footballers in the country.
The last point though comes with a hint of caution in that I don't think Westmeath would have a point on the board without him. Could do without the over reliance.
League final a realistic target now, which would be above initial expectations. Would also be welcome to push back the club championship from it's insanely early start.
Just a question regarding promotion to Div 1 for the likes of a young, developing squad. Would it be more beneficial to stay in Division 2 and have a few 'banker' games that you would be sure to win and a couple of much tougher matches, rather than playing at almost championship pace for the entire league in Div 1?
Without doubt the exposure to the best teams will bring on a squad in terms of experience and skill requirements, but when in the midst of developing a young squad, would it be better to remain in Div 2?
Quote from: Dangleberrys on March 11, 2013, 12:47:41 PM
Just a question regarding promotion to Div 1 for the likes of a young, developing squad. Would it be more beneficial to stay in Division 2 and have a few 'banker' games that you would be sure to win and a couple of much tougher matches, rather than playing at almost championship pace for the entire league in Div 1?
Without doubt the exposure to the best teams will bring on a squad in terms of experience and skill requirements, but when in the midst of developing a young squad, would it be better to remain in Div 2?
I was wondering about this last night actually. I mean Galway have a very young team this year and you would be afraid if they were to get promoted that they would just receive a series of trimmings in division 1 next year and be straight back down. Division 2 might be the best place for them for the time being. Playing decent sides but capable of winning some games as well. Then again they usually say that a team is better off playing the best as that's how they learn and develop. Even if they are getting battered for the most part.
Looking at division 2 it would not surprise me if the two teams that go up this year come straight back down next year.
Quote from: shark on March 11, 2013, 12:30:29 PM
Very encouraging start. The main plusses being:
1/ A definite gameplan that the team has bought in to.
2/ The unearthing of a couple of new players at this level, especially Ciaran Curley whose ball winning abilities are second to none.
3/ The continuing development of John Heslin in to one of the top footballers in the country.
The last point though comes with a hint of caution in that I don't think Westmeath would have a point on the board without him. Could do without the over reliance.
League final a realistic target now, which would be above initial expectations. Would also be welcome to push back the club championship from it's insanely early start.
The gameplan is key alright and one that should work more to our favour once the pitches harden up. I'm not sure we're over reliant on Heslin though. We got 3 from 4 points out of the Galway and Laois games without Sharry and Dessie (for the most part) so I definitely think we'd have gotten points from the Louth or Longford games without Heslin. He is a serious plus though, especially his long range frees although Sharry is well able to hit them as well. Is getting better with every game and if he continues to develop he will surely be the best midfielder in the country.
Regarding promotion to Div 1 it will be tough for whoever gets there. If we are one of the lucky teams we will be in a much better position than 2009 where the team of the noughties was coming to a shuddering halt. If we keep progressing at the rate we have from this time last year I'd give us every chance of staying up. Not getting ahead of ourselves of course.
When Galway lost out to promotion last year, I said it was the best thing for them in the end. As with the likes of Westmeath, Wexford, Laois...gaining promotion is only an advantage if the squad is capable of competing. Having a good team of 15 or 16 players can win Div 2. A strong squad of 25 is needed to compete in Div 1. Its catch 22, you need to play the best to learn yet you will not learn too much from getting battered week in week out...
When did Westmeath get good?
Quote from: Jinxy on March 11, 2013, 02:31:35 PM
When did Westmeath get good?
Remember our U21s in 2010? Well that team have improved every year since and are continuing in that vein. 8 of them are mainstays now.
Quote from: Jinxy on March 11, 2013, 02:31:35 PM
When did Westmeath get good?
I think it started when they turned the sod on that motorway that goes past Tara.
The Slua Sidhe are not to be bollixed around with, especially when it comes to fuball.
I still use the old road in an attempt to appease them.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 11, 2013, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 11, 2013, 02:31:35 PM
When did Westmeath get good?
Remember our U21s in 2010? Well that team have improved every year since and are continuing in that vein. 8 of them are mainstays now.
That team really should have won the All-Ireland. Walking out of the Leinster final nobody could quite put their finger on how Dublin got out with the win. 12 of that team have now played senior championship, although 2 of them are now abroad.
Quote from: shark on March 11, 2013, 04:05:31 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 11, 2013, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 11, 2013, 02:31:35 PM
When did Westmeath get good?
Remember our U21s in 2010? Well that team have improved every year since and are continuing in that vein. 8 of them are mainstays now.
That team really should have won the All-Ireland. Walking out of the Leinster final nobody could quite put their finger on how Dublin got out with the win. 12 of that team have now played senior championship, although 2 of them are now abroad.
We underperformed in the first half, we were 4 or 5 points down if memory serves at half time. Might have snuck it at the end if Dublin hadn't got that killer goal, completely dominated them. Sheridan, Moran and Coffey the 3. Shocking that John Egan got his place in front of Smyth and that Lynam was on the wing. Pity Lynam, Moran and Coffey aren't involved this year but we haven't done too bad out of that team all the same. That was an AI, never mind a Leinster that got away alright. Nerves and a poor start cost us that game IMO, something that has undone us in the subsequent years at that level.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 11, 2013, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: shark on March 11, 2013, 04:05:31 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 11, 2013, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 11, 2013, 02:31:35 PM
When did Westmeath get good?
Remember our U21s in 2010? Well that team have improved every year since and are continuing in that vein. 8 of them are mainstays now.
That team really should have won the All-Ireland. Walking out of the Leinster final nobody could quite put their finger on how Dublin got out with the win. 12 of that team have now played senior championship, although 2 of them are now abroad.
We underperformed in the first half, we were 4 or 5 points down if memory serves at half time. Might have snuck it at the end if Dublin hadn't got that killer goal, completely dominated them. Sheridan, Moran and Coffey the 3. Shocking that John Egan got his place in front of Smyth and that Lynam was on the wing. Pity Lynam, Moran and Coffey aren't involved this year but we haven't done too bad out of that team all the same. That was an AI, never mind a Leinster that got away alright. Nerves and a poor start cost us that game IMO, something that has undone us in the subsequent years at that level.
Moran played against Kerry last year. Was thinking the corner back from Kinnegad whose name escapes me. Lynam will be back in time, he's still only 22/23. Coffey will never have the desire for it. Smyth came on board late and never broke in to the team, hopefully he gets his ankle sorted and can play a part before the league concludes. Gives a different type of option up front.
Looking forward to the trip to see Heslin play in a couple of weeks. We may be missing Jamie, and Westmeath may well win, but they will know they have been in a match when they play Armagh.
Quote from: shark on March 11, 2013, 06:53:00 PM
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When did Westmeath get good?
Remember our U21s in 2010? Well that team have improved every year since and are continuing in that vein. 8 of them are mainstays now.
That team really should have won the All-Ireland. Walking out of the Leinster final nobody could quite put their finger on how Dublin got out with the win. 12 of that team have now played senior championship, although 2 of them are now abroad.
We underperformed in the first half, we were 4 or 5 points down if memory serves at half time. Might have snuck it at the end if Dublin hadn't got that killer goal, completely dominated them. Sheridan, Moran and Coffey the 3. Shocking that John Egan got his place in front of Smyth and that Lynam was on the wing. Pity Lynam, Moran and Coffey aren't involved this year but we haven't done too bad out of that team all the same. That was an AI, never mind a Leinster that got away alright. Nerves and a poor start cost us that game IMO, something that has undone us in the subsequent years at that level.
Moran played against Kerry last year. Was thinking the corner back from Kinnegad whose name escapes me. Lynam will be back in time, he's still only 22/23. Coffey will never have the desire for it. Smyth came on board late and never broke in to the team, hopefully he gets his ankle sorted and can play a part before the league concludes. Gives a different type of option up front.
So he did, must have buried that somewhere deep. Ronan Doyle was the other corner back. I had Sheridan down for full back and Maguire in the other corner but that was the full back line in 2011.
Westmeath unchanged:
G Connaughton;
M McCallon, K Gavin, K Maguire;
M Curley, J Gaffey, J Dolan;
D Duffy, J Heslin;
G Egan, C McCormack, K Martin;
D Corroon, C Curley, D Glennon.
Looking forward to a trip down to Wexford Park, should be slightly more competitive than our last visit there.
Any idea what way the table sits tonight??
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Any idea what way the table sits tonight??
1 Westmeath 4 7
2 Derry 5 7
3 Galway 5 5
4 Wexford 4 5
5 Laois 5 5
6 Louth 5 5
7 Armagh 5 4
8 Longford 5 0
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Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 08:39:38 PM
Any idea what way the table sits tonight??
1 Westmeath 4 7
2 Derry 5 7
3 Galway 5 5
4 Wexford 4 5
5 Laois 5 5
6 Louth 5 5
7 Armagh 5 4
8 Longford 5 0
Cheers GBB. It's tight. Any 2 from 7 could go up really!
Poor result for Armagh tonight but I thought it might happen. Really needed to win that game tonight to stay up. We are now effectivelt down I'd say with tough fixtures at home to Westmeath and away to Galway to come. Can't see us getting anything there either.
Quote from: yellowcard on March 16, 2013, 08:54:33 PM
Poor result for Armagh tonight but I thought it might happen. Really needed to win that game tonight to stay up. We are now effectivelt down I'd say with tough fixtures at home to Westmeath and away to Galway to come. Can't see us getting anything there either.
I think Galway have to go to Armagh. We have Wexford at home before that.
Quote from: yellowcard on March 16, 2013, 08:54:33 PM
Poor result for Armagh tonight but I thought it might happen. Really needed to win that game tonight to stay up. We are now effectivelt down I'd say with tough fixtures at home to Westmeath and away to Galway to come. Can't see us getting anything there either.
They miss Clarke big time but I suppose a positive this year is Mc Parlands form to date!
Longford and Armagh? You're too kind, D2.
I think if ever two divisions would be better served amalgamating it's the current D2 and D3.
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Quote from: yellowcard on March 16, 2013, 08:54:33 PM
Poor result for Armagh tonight but I thought it might happen. Really needed to win that game tonight to stay up. We are now effectivelt down I'd say with tough fixtures at home to Westmeath and away to Galway to come. Can't see us getting anything there either.
I think Galway have to go to Armagh. We have Wexford at home before that.
Oh right, maybe its the other way about then, Galway at home and Westmeath away. Either way they are 2 tough games. Wexford could beat Westmeath tomorrow at home as well, will really tighten up the division if that happens. The only certainty is that Longford are doomed.
Just checking if Div 2 posters are friendly or not. We'll end up in this division next year.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 16, 2013, 10:07:34 PM
Just checking if Div 2 posters are friendly or not. We'll end up in this division next year.
Bugger off. We're full.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 16, 2013, 10:07:34 PM
Just checking if Div 2 posters are friendly or not. We'll end up in this division next year.
Maybe us too. That'd be grand for away games if Galway don't do something stupid like get themselves promoted.
Chance of getting those Ciarraí lads too. We've played them so little over the years that it would be nice to spend a while in the same division. Mind you, they'd probably have to fall down to division 3 for that to happen. Even so, it's a thought.
Some win for Westmeath today!! That puts them in a great position to gain promotion!
QuoteSome win for Westmeath today!! That puts them in a great position to gain promotion!
I agree. They should now give some of their fringe players a run out now that promotion is secure.
Great result for Iarmhi - John Heslin is playing some great football. A special talent.
Don't think we'll be playing any fringe players until promotion is 100% secured
Looking good for Westmeath at the moment. Nearly there just to hold the head now!
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 18, 2013, 06:31:09 PM
Looking good for Westmeath at the moment. Nearly there just to hold the head now!
don't they still have to play derry ?
P W D L F A Pts
1 Westmeath 5 4 1 0 8-54 4-54 9
2 Derry 5 3 1 1 1-81 3-57 7
3 Laois 5 2 1 2 5-71 5-61 5
4 Wexford 5 2 1 2 7-55 10-57 5
5 Galway 5 2 1 2 4-60 5-64 5
6 Louth 5 2 1 2 7-61 4-67 5
7 Armagh 5 1 2 2 8-52 6-65 4
8 Longford 5 0 0 5 7-39 10-48 0
Does scoring come into it if the head to head is a draw.
Armagh's poor performance against Laois and letting Longford back into it has not helped the scoring.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on March 18, 2013, 06:31:09 PM
Looking good for Westmeath at the moment. Nearly there just to hold the head now!
don't they still have to play derry ?
Last game is Derry V Iarmhi
If Westmeath lose to Derry & Armagh - anyone of 5 teams could be on 9 points - Westmeath are close but as was seen in other years - last round of matches in this league will decide the final outcome. Armagh have always given Westmeath a roasting over the years and no doubt will be out to fight hard for their position in their league. Only thing confirmed in this league at this stage is Longford are down and Armagh can not get promoted
QuoteArmagh have always given Westmeath a roasting over the years
Not really. Was 2008 our last visit to Mullingar, this was a crap Armagh performance.
Heslin is a serious player, Westmeath must have been delighted when he returned from Oz last year.
Another great comeback from Westmeath yesterday. Was very impressed with Wexford, they have landed on their feet with Aidan O'Brien, a Westmeath man. He has them well organised and drilled. The balls they were playing into their two man full forward line were inch perfect and I think they only had two wides in the first half. Us on the other hand had a rake of them. What kept us in the game, again, was a brilliantly taken goal from Ciarán Curley. Good to see we are trying to work the goal opportunity and taking them when they are on. Went in down only two points.
Wexford made the better start to the second half and then Daithi Waters handed us the initiative by striking Heslin in front of the linesman. He had been needling at him all game, wasn't getting the reaction he was hoping for and in the end lost the rag himself. Heslin is a targeted man now and has been working at this aspect of his game. Doesn't react to the needling anymore while at the same time standing up for himself. If he continues to develop at this rate he will be to Westmeath what Dermot Early was to Roscommon.
The introduction of Sharry and Dessie after the sending off was also key. Even though Wexford pushed the gap out to five we then started to settled into playing with the extra man. Sharrys deliveries are top class and even though Gaffey hasn't done much wrong in the center back position we need Sharry in there. Once we pegged back Wexford (courtesy of a brilliantly taken penalty from Heslin, top left corner at force) you could see Wexford's spirit breaking, like Laois the week before. Fair play to Glennon as well, took his goals expertly, something that hasn't been a strong point before. The goals at the end put a gloss on the scoreboard and this was a tighter match than the scoreboard suggests. However good to win a game well after earlier score differences in the league deserved to be wider.
Wexford have to play Laois and Galway so only possible for four teams to end up on 9 points. We should keep the foot down for Armagh on Sunday, secure promotion and then give run outs up in Derry. Keep the only unbeaten run across the four divisions going.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 19, 2013, 10:08:46 AM
Wexford made the better start to the second half and then Daithi Waters handed us the initiative by striking Heslin in front of the linesman. He had been needling at him all game, wasn't getting the reaction he was hoping for and in the end lost the rag himself. Heslin is a targeted man now and has been working at this aspect of his game. Doesn't react to the needling anymore while at the same time standing up for himself. If he continues to develop at this rate he will be to Westmeath what Dermot Early was to Roscommon.
ah here, this is complete and utter rubbish. at least call it right if you are going to do so at all. Waters was not needling Heslin all game, Waters was dominating midfield. Heslin got his only point from play after striking Waters off the ball and went through unmarked whilst Waters was left on the ground. Heslin was doing his job of stopping Waters making runs through the middle, he was holding him back off the ball through out.
And then, if you had actually seen the incident, Heslin made a run for a free, and Waters pulled him back. Heslin stopped and the 2 lads semi squared up, Heslin pushed Waters, Waters pushed him back, in the chest too, and Heslin went down clutching his face. He was not struck, and I dont knwo what the linesman was at calling it a red card. It was a nothing incident and both players should have been told to cop on with the pulling off the ball.
Heslin was completely ineffective all through the first half, bar his point where he left his man on the ground. He is a good player, no doubt about that, but if you are going to comment on things, at least have the decency to be honest in your appraisal.
Westmeath are in a great position now, but that red card yesterday was the defining moment unfortunately, and our best player to that point being wrongly sent off changed the game. I dont know if Wexford would have seen it out, but they were playing well and were 5 points up. I could talk about a dodgy penalty, or a third man tackle for a point scored, or a thrown handpass for a goal, but that would be too many sour grapes. The ref was fussy, and both sides got easy enough frees. But the red card was plain wrong. I'd call Waters on it if he was wrong, he has been sent off before for doing stupid things, but yesterday Heslin was the instigator, and eventaully a dive got his man sent off.
Wow. Talk about 2 different views of the same incident, I couldn't disagree with it more. The only part of it that I could agree with is the ref being fussy (what ref isn't nowadays) and where James Dolan "ran into" the corner back.
Regarding the incident, it's impossible to push a player repeatedly with clenched fists, whether it be in the chest or anywhere else. Heslin didn't go down clutching his face.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 19, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
Wow. Talk about 2 different views of the same incident, I couldn't disagree with it more. The only part of it that I could agree with is the ref being fussy (what ref isn't nowadays) and where James Dolan "ran into" the corner back.
Regarding the incident, it's impossible to push a player repeatedly with clenched fists, whether it be in the chest or anywhere else. Heslin didn't go down clutching his face.
Waters' red card has been rescinded due to video evidence. What say you know?
For Wexford, its ridiculous. The game changed because of it, and we are now deep in a relegation battle when leading a game by 5 points and an incorrect red card cost us dearly of being in the promotion race. At least we have Waters back in the fold to play the last 2 games, but its a sickener really and it should never have happened.
http://www.wexfordgaa.ie/2013/03/waters-cleared-of-red-card/
Daití Waters was cleared of the Red Card he received in Monday's game versus Westmeath and is free to play against Galway on Sunday next in Rd 6 of the NFL Div 2.
His sending off when Wexford were 5 points ahead was a 'game changer' and may well have cost Wexford footballers a chance of promotion. They need a victory on Sunday next to get back in the hunt.
Ah Jesus. Heslin becoming the Dermot Earley of Westmeath? Give the lad a chance to get his feet under himself first.
he had a really good game against Derry too, Waters, a player with big potential. heslin looked a very good player when derry played westmeath last year too
Armagh team to face Westmeath the same as that which lost to Louth.
Looks like a handy gig for the lakelanders, so best if you save your stars and give all the fringe players a run out.
Louth team to play Derry
Neil Gallagher
Padraig Rath
Dessie Finnegan
Gerard Hoey
John O'Brien
Derek Crilly
Adrian Reid
Ronan Carroll
Brian Donnelly
Andy McDonnell
Mark Brennan
Brian White
Darren Clarke
Shane Lennon
Kevin Rogers
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Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 19, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
Wow. Talk about 2 different views of the same incident, I couldn't disagree with it more. The only part of it that I could agree with is the ref being fussy (what ref isn't nowadays) and where James Dolan "ran into" the corner back.
Regarding the incident, it's impossible to push a player repeatedly with clenched fists, whether it be in the chest or anywhere else. Heslin didn't go down clutching his face.
Waters' red card has been rescinded due to video evidence. What say you know?
For Wexford, its ridiculous. The game changed because of it, and we are now deep in a relegation battle when leading a game by 5 points and an incorrect red card cost us dearly of being in the promotion race. At least we have Waters back in the fold to play the last 2 games, but its a sickener really and it should never have happened.
http://www.wexfordgaa.ie/2013/03/waters-cleared-of-red-card/
Daití Waters was cleared of the Red Card he received in Monday's game versus Westmeath and is free to play against Galway on Sunday next in Rd 6 of the NFL Div 2.
His sending off when Wexford were 5 points ahead was a 'game changer' and may well have cost Wexford footballers a chance of promotion. They need a victory on Sunday next to get back in the hunt.
Would love to see that footage and what precisely he got off on. I'll stand by my eyes and those of the linesman who was looking straight at them.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 22, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
Quote from: wexman on March 21, 2013, 09:09:55 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 19, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
Wow. Talk about 2 different views of the same incident, I couldn't disagree with it more. The only part of it that I could agree with is the ref being fussy (what ref isn't nowadays) and where James Dolan "ran into" the corner back.
Regarding the incident, it's impossible to push a player repeatedly with clenched fists, whether it be in the chest or anywhere else. Heslin didn't go down clutching his face.
Waters' red card has been rescinded due to video evidence. What say you know?
For Wexford, its ridiculous. The game changed because of it, and we are now deep in a relegation battle when leading a game by 5 points and an incorrect red card cost us dearly of being in the promotion race. At least we have Waters back in the fold to play the last 2 games, but its a sickener really and it should never have happened.
http://www.wexfordgaa.ie/2013/03/waters-cleared-of-red-card/
Daití Waters was cleared of the Red Card he received in Monday's game versus Westmeath and is free to play against Galway on Sunday next in Rd 6 of the NFL Div 2.
His sending off when Wexford were 5 points ahead was a 'game changer' and may well have cost Wexford footballers a chance of promotion. They need a victory on Sunday next to get back in the hunt.
Would love to see that footage and what precisely he got off on. I'll stand by my eyes and those of the linesman who was looking straight at them.
well as you say, we have 2 different views on it. I was looking directly at it, Waters does not strike at any time, and his hands dont go near Heslins face. Video evidence has proved he shouldnt have got a red card, but yet you still think differently.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 19, 2013, 10:08:46 AM
Wexford made the better start to the second half and then Daithi Waters handed us the initiative by striking Heslin in front of the linesman. He had been needling at him all game, wasn't getting the reaction he was hoping for and in the end lost the rag himself. Heslin is a targeted man now and has been working at this aspect of his game. Doesn't react to the needling anymore while at the same time standing up for himself. If he continues to develop at this rate he will be to Westmeath what Dermot Early was to Roscommon.
Heslin struck Waters when is back was turned in the first half (he scored a point immediately afterwards as Waters was still on the ground). That was the reason for the needle. As far as I know the video evidence showed that the linesman was looking into the crowd when Water's pushed Heslin, hence none of the officials actually saw the incident. Crazy sending off. You can see why Pat Flanning said it wasn't a red card.
Westmeath promoted - still unbeaten - savage stuff
What way is the table looking now? Just need Westmeath to take it easy next weekend ;)
Thank you Westmeath. If we beat Laois the next day at home we stay up. They are safe, so hopefully the lads can pull it off.
Derry probably just deserved both points in Drogheda today,though their cause was greatly helped by the referee who seemed to give them all the marginal calls and then some. Derrys second goal which came in injury time doesn't do justice to a valiant Louth effort, who scored seven unanswered points to get within a point of Derry.
All still to play for.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 24, 2013, 04:17:02 PM
Derry probably just deserved both points in Drogheda today,though their cause was greatly helped by the referee who seemed to give them all the marginal calls and then some. Derrys second goal which came in injury time doesn't do justice to a valiant Louth effort, who scored seven unanswered points to get within a point of Derry.
All still to play for.
Anyone for Derry catch your eye??
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 24, 2013, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 24, 2013, 04:17:02 PM
Derry probably just deserved both points in Drogheda today,though their cause was greatly helped by the referee who seemed to give them all the marginal calls and then some. Derrys second goal which came in injury time doesn't do justice to a valiant Louth effort, who scored seven unanswered points to get within a point of Derry.
All still to play for.
Anyone for Derry catch your eye??
The referee by the looks of it!
Quote from: theticklemister on March 24, 2013, 04:19:38 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 24, 2013, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 24, 2013, 04:17:02 PM
Derry probably just deserved both points in Drogheda today,though their cause was greatly helped by the referee who seemed to give them all the marginal calls and then some. Derrys second goal which came in injury time doesn't do justice to a valiant Louth effort, who scored seven unanswered points to get within a point of Derry.
All still to play for.
Anyone for Derry catch your eye??
The referee by the looks of it!
Eoin Bradley was the stand out player on the Derry team. Kielt also had a good game.
Quote from: Maroon Heaven on March 24, 2013, 03:46:24 PM
Westmeath promoted - still unbeaten - savage stuff
Congratulations.
It's only the league though.
Quote from: Maroon Heaven on March 24, 2013, 03:46:24 PM
Westmeath promoted - still unbeaten - savage stuff
Well done to Westmeath. A surprise to outsiders to gain promotion! Looking forward to going to Mullingar or them coming west next year providing we stay in Division One! ;)
Division 1
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Dublin 6 5 0 1 8-92 4-63 10
2 Tyrone 6 5 0 1 4-75 3-69 10
3 Kildare 6 4 0 2 9-60 5-80 8
4 Cork 6 3 0 3 6-63 4-74 6
5 Mayo 6 2 0 4 2-74 5-65 4
6 Donegal 6 2 0 4 2-68 4-59 4
7 Kerry 6 2 0 4 1-49 5-58 4
8 Down 6 1 0 5 3-59 5-72 2
Division 2
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Westmeath 6 5 1 0 8-71 4-70 11
2 Derry 6 4 1 1 3-95 4-69 9
3 Laois 6 3 1 2 5-80 5-66 7
4 Galway 6 3 1 2 5-76 5-75 7
5 Wexford 6 2 1 3 7-66 11-73 5
6 Louth 6 2 1 3 8-73 6-81 5
7 Armagh 6 1 2 3 8-68 6-82 4
8 Longford 6 0 0 6 7-44 10-57 0
Division 3
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Fermanagh 6 4 1 1 5-79 5-57 9
2 Monaghan 5 4 0 1 7-62 6-42 8
3 Cavan 6 3 1 2 5-70 5-57 7
4 Meath 5 3 0 2 6-53 3-65 6
5 Roscommon 5 2 1 2 3-53 7-47 5
6 Antrim 5 1 2 2 5-52 6-51 4
7 Sligo 6 1 1 4 6-57 4-80 3
8 Wicklow 6 0 2 4 6-55 7-82 2
Division 4
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Limerick 7 5 0 2 1-73 4-70 10
2 Tipperary 6 4 0 2 5-80 4-63 8
3 Offaly 6 4 0 2 8-61 3-60 8
4 Clare 5 3 0 2 2-60 6-44 6
5 Leitrim 5 2 0 3 6-55 4-53 4
6 Carlow 6 2 0 4 2-68 5-74 4
7 Waterford 6 2 0 4 8-51 5-71 4
8 London 5 1 0 4 4-44 5-57 2
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Division 2
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Westmeath 6 5 1 0 8-71 4-70 11
2 Derry 6 4 1 1 3-95 4-69 9
3 Laois 6 3 1 2 5-80 5-66 7
4 Galway 6 3 1 2 5-76 5-75 7
5 Wexford 6 2 1 3 7-66 11-73 5
6 Louth 6 2 1 3 8-73 6-81 5
7 Armagh 6 1 2 3 8-68 6-82 4
8 Longford 6 0 0 6 7-44 10-57 0
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she is wan swonkey league table hi
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Quote from: theticklemister on March 24, 2013, 05:51:01 PM
Division 2
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Westmeath 6 5 1 0 8-71 4-70 11
2 Derry 6 4 1 1 3-95 4-69 9
3 Laois 6 3 1 2 5-80 5-66 7
4 Galway 6 3 1 2 5-76 5-75 7
5 Wexford 6 2 1 3 7-66 11-73 5
6 Louth 6 2 1 3 8-73 6-81 5
7 Armagh 6 1 2 3 8-68 6-82 4
8 Longford 6 0 0 6 7-44 10-57 0
Quote from: theticklemister on February 24, 2013, 08:14:09 PM
she is wan swonkey league table hi
Ye have some memory on ye!!
Quote from: drici on March 24, 2013, 06:19:52 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 24, 2013, 05:51:01 PM
Division 2
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Westmeath 6 5 1 0 8-71 4-70 11
2 Derry 6 4 1 1 3-95 4-69 9
3 Laois 6 3 1 2 5-80 5-66 7
4 Galway 6 3 1 2 5-76 5-75 7
5 Wexford 6 2 1 3 7-66 11-73 5
6 Louth 6 2 1 3 8-73 6-81 5
7 Armagh 6 1 2 3 8-68 6-82 4
8 Longford 6 0 0 6 7-44 10-57 0
Quote from: theticklemister on February 24, 2013, 08:14:09 PM
she is wan swonkey league table hi
So are Derry up if Galway don't beat relegation favourites Armagh?
Well done Westmeath.
yip
What if laois win? They beat Galway already
In the rather improbable circumstances where Laois beat Wexford and Armagh draw with Galway, does score difference come into play as both Armagh and Wexford would have 5 points and would have drawn in the head to head?
Quote from: armaghniac on March 24, 2013, 07:46:51 PM
In the rather improbable circumstances where Laois beat Wexford and Armagh draw with Galway, does score difference come into play as both Armagh and Wexford would have 5 points and would have drawn in the head to head?
Believe so. There is no other way to pick between the two.
QuoteBelieve so. There is no other way to pick between the two.
So Armagh win/Wexford draw or Armagh draw/Wexford defeat will see Wexford go down, otherwise Armagh go down.
One hopes the Armagh Laois bond will see them helping us out here and that we can do something against the tribesmen.
Quote from: armaghniac on March 24, 2013, 08:18:39 PM
QuoteBelieve so. There is no other way to pick between the two.
So Armagh win/Wexford draw or Armagh draw/Wexford defeat will see Wexford go down, otherwise Armagh go down.
One hopes the Armagh Laois bond will see them helping us out here and that we can do something against the tribesmen.
Correct. If Armagh match Wexford on league points or level with them we are staying up. Obviously for Louth, they lose they are gone if Armagh win.
I wouldn't rule out Longford just yet. They will want to exit division 2 with something.
Also, congratulations to Westmeath on their promotion to division one.
Quote from: armaghniac on March 24, 2013, 08:18:39 PM
QuoteBelieve so. There is no other way to pick between the two.
So Armagh win/Wexford draw or Armagh draw/Wexford defeat will see Wexford go down, otherwise Armagh go down.
One hopes the Armagh Laois bond will see them helping us out here and that we can do something against the tribesmen.
Brrr brrr
Hello ?
What about ya Billy......I'm looking for a wee favour ?
Yearra....*@&# off ;D
Well. It's been a disasterous campaign for Longford. Games we should have won either thrown away (Wexford for sure, perhaps Galway and Westmeath), games we should have got something out of (Armagh) and games we stank the joint out (Derry and Laois).
Hard to see any reasons for optimism coming into Leinster campaign.
I spose one could point to the U21s and that maybe some will be available for the Wicklow match and hopefully then for a joust against Meath.
Ah well. I didnt expect us to last the pace in Div 2 but is should have been a whole lot better.
That said, well done Westmeath.
Chin up SS, we went two years without a solitary league point and have our 21s motoring well now. You'll be back up next year. Also two successive promotions bizarrely work against a team as you're better off stopping a year in a Division to find your feet. This time next year Fermanagh will probably be back in Div 3.
Well done Westmeath. Galway lost to Louth again this year so will be staying in D2 most likely, same as last year, same defining loss.
It's only the league I suppose and it's all about experience gained. Antrim really are shite- how did we lose to them last year?.
Well done Westmeath. Mathematically promoted with a game in hand is impressive stuff.
As for Wexford, it'll be the oh-too-familiar last day nerves. Win and we survive. Lose and we'll be stuck to the trannies hoping for a few favours from Galway and our old buddies Longford.
Laois come to town with an outside chance of promotion, so they'll be well up for it.
Chances are, survival in this Division will have to be earned ...... and in fairness if we do end up losing our last three games - two at home - we can have few complaints.
I wouldn't depend on us for any favours up in Armagh anyway. Galway are safe and only have a slim chance of promotion even if they win. The U-21's have a Connacht final the day before so I presume any of those lads will be with the U-21's that weekend. Armagh badly need the win and usually in the league the team with the greater motivation on the day more often than not will be victorious. Put that down as a banker Armagh win.
Quote from: This Years Model on March 26, 2013, 11:22:19 AM
Well done Westmeath. Mathematically promoted with a game in hand is impressive stuff.
As for Wexford, it'll be the oh-too-familiar last day nerves. Win and we survive. Lose and we'll be stuck to the trannies hoping for a few favours from Galway and our old buddies Longford.
Laois come to town with an outside chance of promotion, so they'll be well up for it.
Chances are, survival in this Division will have to be earned ...... and in fairness if we do end up losing our last three games - two at home - we can have few complaints.
i thought for a minute there that there was a contingent of transvestites in the Wexford football crowd
Team for Sun:
1 Eoin Carberry;
2 John Gaffey, 3 Kieran Gavin, 4 Kevin Maguire;
5 Damian Dolan, 6 Paul Sharry, 7 Doron Harte;
8 David Duffy, 9 Darragh Daly;
10 Declan Mullen, 11 Paul Bannon, 12 Denis Corroon;
13 Ronan Foley, 14 Lorcan Smith, 15 Dessie Dolan
Good to see the young lads rested and panel members getting a chance to stake a claim. It'll be tough to keep the unbeaten run going up in Derry, what with an unsettled team and them requiring a result to seal promotion. some tweaks I'd have liked to have seen would be Jason Lynch getting a run in the corner, Gaffey tried out on the wing, Doran in the roving role and I'd have left Ciaran Curley in there to gain some more pitch time.
What's the best route driving from Dublin, through Omagh? Any recommendations for pre/post match grub in Derry?
Go through Omagh. Mighty road till you reach Aughnacloy. Take second exit at last roundabout in Strabane signposted Londonderry (bet ya the London bit is painted over ;D) Plenty of eateries in Derry, could consider parking in the Foyleside shopping centre and walking to the game. Nice city. The Foyleside has a communal eating area with Chinese, Pizza, O Briens and Supermacs. If you want something more substantial, loads of decent places around the city from pub grub to more expensive tastes. Strand Road area is good with the Exchange been a particular favourite of mine. Good luck can't believe ye lads are heading for Div 1, fair play.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on April 03, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
Team for Sun:
1 Eoin Carberry;
2 John Gaffey, 3 Kieran Gavin, 4 Kevin Maguire;
5 Damian Dolan, 6 Paul Sharry, 7 Doron Harte;
8 David Duffy, 9 Darragh Daly;
10 Declan Mullen, 11 Paul Bannon, 12 Denis Corroon;
13 Ronan Foley, 14 Lorcan Smith, 15 Dessie Dolan
Good to see the young lads rested and panel members getting a chance to stake a claim. It'll be tough to keep the unbeaten run going up in Derry, what with an unsettled team and them requiring a result to seal promotion. some tweaks I'd have liked to have seen would be Jason Lynch getting a run in the corner, Gaffey tried out on the wing, Doran in the roving role and I'd have left Ciaran Curley in there to gain some more pitch time.
What's the best route driving from Dublin, through Omagh? Any recommendations for pre/post match grub in Derry?
Jason Lynch has left the panel. Apparently annoyed with lack of game time. Realistically he was behind Aaron Purcell too, who was due to start Sunday but has picked up an injury.
Michael Curley has also left the panel to take up employment in Canada. Seanie Daly (Shamrocks), Jason O'Toole (Lomans) and David McCormack (Rosemount) have been added to the panel.
ARMAGH captain Ciaran McKeever has picked up a four-week suspension and will miss Sunday's crucial league match with Galway.
The Cullyhanna man was sent to the line late in the side's game with Louth, despite not playing. McKeever had been allegedly been involved in a verbal altercation with Louth free-taker Brian White.
He attended a hearing last night and was handed a four-week suspension.
Quote from: shark on April 03, 2013, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on April 03, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
Team for Sun:
1 Eoin Carberry;
2 John Gaffey, 3 Kieran Gavin, 4 Kevin Maguire;
5 Damian Dolan, 6 Paul Sharry, 7 Doron Harte;
8 David Duffy, 9 Darragh Daly;
10 Declan Mullen, 11 Paul Bannon, 12 Denis Corroon;
13 Ronan Foley, 14 Lorcan Smith, 15 Dessie Dolan
Good to see the young lads rested and panel members getting a chance to stake a claim. It'll be tough to keep the unbeaten run going up in Derry, what with an unsettled team and them requiring a result to seal promotion. some tweaks I'd have liked to have seen would be Jason Lynch getting a run in the corner, Gaffey tried out on the wing, Doran in the roving role and I'd have left Ciaran Curley in there to gain some more pitch time.
What's the best route driving from Dublin, through Omagh? Any recommendations for pre/post match grub in Derry?
Jason Lynch has left the panel. Apparently annoyed with lack of game time. Realistically he was behind Aaron Purcell too, who was due to start Sunday but has picked up an injury.
Michael Curley has also left the panel to take up employment in Canada. Seanie Daly (Shamrocks), Jason O'Toole (Lomans) and David McCormack (Rosemount) have been added to the panel.
I was afraid that might happen alright, Jason not the most patient of lads. Micheál a loss as would have expected him to start against Carlow judging on form so far. Not an easy choice for him to have to make I imagine. All the more reason to see if Gaffey can do a job on the wing, we all know Doran's capabilities there.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on April 03, 2013, 02:19:23 PM
ARMAGH captain Ciaran McKeever has picked up a four-week suspension and will miss Sunday’s crucial league match with Galway.
The Cullyhanna man was sent to the line late in the side’s game with Louth, despite not playing. McKeever had been allegedly been involved in a verbal altercation with Louth free-taker Brian White.
He attended a hearing last night and was handed a four-week suspension.
That's a bit strong. While I agree Ciaran should not have got involved in what he did, if everybody got a four week suspension for verbal altercations we'd be down to 11 a side matches. Anything more to it??
Quote from: mackers on April 03, 2013, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on April 03, 2013, 02:19:23 PM
ARMAGH captain Ciaran McKeever has picked up a four-week suspension and will miss Sunday's crucial league match with Galway.
The Cullyhanna man was sent to the line late in the side's game with Louth, despite not playing. McKeever had been allegedly been involved in a verbal altercation with Louth free-taker Brian White.
He attended a hearing last night and was handed a four-week suspension.
That's a bit strong. While I agree Ciaran should not have got involved in what he did, if everybody got a four week suspension for verbal altercations we'd be down to 11 a side matches. Anything more to it??
So you think it's ok to verbally abuse players. At least we had one ref with a set of balls to apply the rules. Mc Keever is some tool. After last nights hearing he might be happy with the introduction of the black card,(after his brainless rate in the paper about the black card) if the rule had of been in place he would have just been sent to the stand, and available for the next match.
Quote from: shawshank on April 03, 2013, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: mackers on April 03, 2013, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on April 03, 2013, 02:19:23 PM
ARMAGH captain Ciaran McKeever has picked up a four-week suspension and will miss Sunday’s crucial league match with Galway.
The Cullyhanna man was sent to the line late in the side’s game with Louth, despite not playing. McKeever had been allegedly been involved in a verbal altercation with Louth free-taker Brian White.
He attended a hearing last night and was handed a four-week suspension.
That's a bit strong. While I agree Ciaran should not have got involved in what he did, if everybody got a four week suspension for verbal altercations we'd be down to 11 a side matches. Anything more to it??
So you think it's ok to verbally abuse players. At least we had one ref with a set of balls to apply the rules. Mc Keever is some tool. After last nights hearing he might be happy with the introduction of the black card,(after his brainless rate in the paper about the black card) if the rule had of been in place he would have just been sent to the stand, and available for the next match.
Good man shawshank...you verbally abuse a player for verbally abusing players...you couldn't make it up.
You didn't read my post before starting on your "rate" (your word not mine). I didn't say that it was OK to verbally abuse players, in fact I said he was wrong to get involved in the way he did. I queried the fact that he got four weeks for a verbal altercation. If he did, it's the first time I remember it happening.
I'm sure he got suspended for saying the free taker was a tool. :o
I think there were a few incidents mackers. I think that given the new drive to rid the game of sledging it was inevitable that something would happen. The irony of the player involved after the 'Sheehan-gate' is surreal but somewhat poetic!
I have to say given the player unavailability for the weekends game it will take a gargantuan effort by Armagh to win the game on Sunday. Division 3 is looking extremely more likely to be the final resting place for this squad.
Nothing new with Mc Keever. The most over rated footballer in Ulster. Before you eat me Mackers. My opinion, thats all :)
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 03, 2013, 04:00:26 PM
Nothing new with Mc Keever. The most over rated footballer in Ulster. Before you eat me Mackers. My opinion, thats all :)
You're entitled to that opinion. The fact that it is wrong won't get you an eating though. ;)
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 03, 2013, 03:47:47 PM
I think there were a few incidents mackers. I think that given the new drive to rid the game of sledging it was inevitable that something would happen. The irony of the player involved after the 'Sheehan-gate' is surreal but somewhat poetic!
If there were other incidents then this would need to be clarified in the official statements, otherwise we can prepare for a long hot summer of four week bans being handed out willy nilly.
I think we are missing an important distinction here. McKeever was maor uisce for the game and as such part of the Armagh support team. match day regulations apply to officials as opposed to the competition rules which players face disciplinary measures for. playing suspensions are now done in terms of numbers of matches I think - i.e. 1 game for category 2 offence, 2 games for category 3 offence, etc. Assuming that to be correct, the suspension applied to McKeever would be for breach of match day regulations as laid down for managers, maor foirne (sp), maor uisce, etc? Going by what I saw, he could have been liable for any number of breaches for that one game. I saw him on the pitch a number of times (Once for a maor uisce would be a breach?) and I imagine it was a culmination. An observer in the stand tallies things like this and there may have been a suspension coming even before the ref sent him off?
In the good old days a lad like McKeever would have had the corners knocked off him nice and early.
The fact that some people consider him to be some sort of hard man is embarrassing.
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 03, 2013, 06:17:07 PM
I think we are missing an important distinction here. McKeever was maor uisce for the game and as such part of the Armagh support team. match day regulations apply to officials as opposed to the competition rules which players face disciplinary measures for. playing suspensions are now done in terms of numbers of matches I think - i.e. 1 game for category 2 offence, 2 games for category 3 offence, etc. Assuming that to be correct, the suspension applied to McKeever would be for breach of match day regulations as laid down for managers, maor foirne (sp), maor uisce, etc? Going by what I saw, he could have been liable for any number of breaches for that one game. I saw him on the pitch a number of times (Once for a maor uisce would be a breach?) and I imagine it was a culmination. An observer in the stand tallies things like this and there may have been a suspension coming even before the ref sent him off?
You are right about that Duffleking. I recall a similar situation with myself as a trainer where I ran down the line a few times with water bottles and gave instructions to players, nothing else. I didn't have an 'official' bib on. The club got a letter the following week to state that I was suspended from the field for 4 weeks, they didn't even know I was up before the disciplinary board! He needs to wise up full stop and concentrate on playing football, which he is good at when he puts his mind into the game.
Quote from: Jinxy on April 03, 2013, 06:34:56 PM
In the good old days a lad like McKeever would have had the corners knocked off him nice and early.
The fact that some people consider him to be some sort of hard man is embarrassing.
Much of it is self-perpetuated but he is a tough enough lad but not in the old Meath style or even the old Armagh style!
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 03, 2013, 06:17:07 PM
I think we are missing an important distinction here. McKeever was maor uisce for the game and as such part of the Armagh support team. match day regulations apply to officials as opposed to the competition rules which players face disciplinary measures for. playing suspensions are now done in terms of numbers of matches I think - i.e. 1 game for category 2 offence, 2 games for category 3 offence, etc. Assuming that to be correct, the suspension applied to McKeever would be for breach of match day regulations as laid down for managers, maor foirne (sp), maor uisce, etc? Going by what I saw, he could have been liable for any number of breaches for that one game. I saw him on the pitch a number of times (Once for a maor uisce would be a breach?) and I imagine it was a culmination. An observer in the stand tallies things like this and there may have been a suspension coming even before the ref sent him off?
That makes more sense DK. It's the sort of factual response I was looking for before our friends from Derry weighed in to have a few cheap shots.
This can't be true surely? The man who courageously got sent off last year for defending his county against outrageous abuse is now involved in giving abuse to another player? No, I don't believe it.
Angel McKeever hasn't made a statement yet, I'm sure he'll confirm what we all know. He was racially abused. Once more he got sent off for fighting against racism. Why is this noble man being punished time and time and time and time again? Disgraceful!
Jaysus man let it go!!
This toe rag tried to drag our counties name through the mud last year, I'm glad more counties are realising (although they already probobly new) that this guy is a joke, a wannabe hardman who resorts to hitting players when they're not looking and running to the papers when he's been bested. By all accounts some nasty things came from his mouth against Louth, he was dead against that sort of thing last year and even a few weeks ago.
Nothing against Armagh personally, hope they stay up and we get to travel to Crossmaglen next year but they're better off geting rid of this player, he costs you more than he gains you.
Armagh looking comfortable enough against Galway, Louth trail by two against Longford. If it stays like this Louth wil be relegated.
Paddy Keenans introduction at half time seems to have woken Louth up. Looks like we are safe. Six in it now.
What is Wexford and Laois score?
Armagh stay in Div 2 by beating Galway 0-21 to 1-12 and Laois beating Wexford
We're back baby!
Stick the kettle on. :D
Derry and Westmeath promoted, they will swap places with Donegal and Down.
Longford and Wexford relegated with Monaghan and Meath taking their place in Division 2.
It's Donegal down not Kerry is it not?
It is indeed, just seeing if everyone is paying attention. ;)
It's Donegal and Down down.
Will we be playing them up in Down or down in Navan?
Next years Div 2
Donegal
Down
Laois
Louth
Galway
Armagh
Meath
Monaghan
If you were to get Donegal and Galway at home there would be very little travelling. Plenty of local derbies.
Why are we down at the bottom?
You should be happy with that, you were in Div 3 a couple of hours ago.
I presume you'll be coming to Navan next spring?
It's either that or play the game in some back garden in Drogheda.
Let him enjoy his day in the sun.
Longford
Only side this year in National League with a 100% record.
Played 7 - lost 7.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on April 07, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
You should be happy with that, you were in Div 3 a couple of hours ago.
When Boylan was in charge there would have been no crowing about promition to D2 but times have changed.
I thought you'd be happy to see people draging themselves out of the precariat.
Are we to understand from the tag of 'established' that Louth were not relegated today?
Longford and Wexford relegated
Quote from: All of a Sludden on April 07, 2013, 05:22:48 PM
Next years Div 2
Donegal
Down
Laois
Louth
Galway
Armagh
Meath
Monaghan
If you were to get Donegal and Galway at home there would be very little travelling. Plenty of local derbies.
Not for Laois, it will be a good spin to any of those places.
Who were the last Div 2 team to win the all-Ireland that year?
Quote from: Santino on April 07, 2013, 07:58:55 PM
Who were the last Div 2 team to win the all-Ireland that year?
Think this was discussed before. Near sure Armagh 2002 were last division 2 team to win all Ireland. Do not think we will see a repeat this year though!
Didn't learn much in Derry yesterday, more lads played themselves out of the team than on to it. Half forward line were particularly poor. Kieran Gavin had a nasty accident in work last week and was a big loss, hope there's no lasting damage and he makes a quick recovery. Derry have a nice game plan, designed with Ulster in mind I'd say. They caught fire in the second half and everything went over the black spot, whereas we had trouble with cows and banjos. Hopefully confidence won't suffer because of this and we can regroup and give them a decent game in the final. Goodbye Div 2, it's been nice knowing you but hope not to see you again for many the year.
Edit: How did I forget, the six hour round trip was all made worthwhile by the half time football, a joy to watch and applaud them off the pitch although I think some of them enjoyed it more. Well done to Derry GAA on organising that and indeed on the stadium, looking well since the redevelopment, the scoreboard needs work though.
Quote from: Hardy on April 07, 2013, 05:53:30 PM
I thought you'd be happy to see people draging themselves out of the precariat.
Only if it is sustainable. Otherwise it's a drain on the respectable counties.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on April 08, 2013, 10:05:50 AM
Didn't learn much in Derry yesterday, more lads played themselves out of the team than on to it. Half forward line were particularly poor. Kieran Gavin had a nasty accident in work last week and was a big loss, hope there's no lasting damage and he makes a quick recovery. Derry have a nice game plan, designed with Ulster in mind I'd say. They caught fire in the second half and everything went over the black spot, whereas we had trouble with cows and banjos. Hopefully confidence won't suffer because of this and we can regroup and give them a decent game in the final. Goodbye Div 2, it's been nice knowing you but hope not to see you again for many the year.
Edit: How did I forget, the six hour round trip was all made worthwhile by the half time football, a joy to watch and applaud them off the pitch although I think some of them enjoyed it more. Well done to Derry GAA on organising that and indeed on the stadium, looking well since the redevelopment, the scoreboard needs work though.
Do you mean by getting numbers back and breaking with pace? Who impressed you for Derry yesterday Croi? James Kielt is in great form at the minute. Should make for an interesting final is a few weeks. Hopefully Derry will have Lynch, Mc Closkey, Mc Bride and Mc Goldrick back from injury for it! Interested to see this Heslin lad.
Partly but was more impressed the way the loaded the pitch on one side with bodies and then a man drifted down the other empty wing and was found repeatedly with an accurate cross pitch pass in yards of space. I'm not sure if we ever copped on to this. Took us an age to shift Maguire onto Bradley as well, lesson learned there I hope. Good team performance from Derry rather than anyone standing out. The best drilled team in Division two we've played.
Quote from: Throw ball on April 07, 2013, 08:03:20 PM
Quote from: Santino on April 07, 2013, 07:58:55 PM
Who were the last Div 2 team to win the all-Ireland that year?
Think this was discussed before. Near sure Armagh 2002 were last division 2 team to win all Ireland. Do not think we will see a repeat this year though!
Yeah, that's definitely right. And they topped a Division Two containing Kerry. But people will still tell you the league is irrelevant.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on April 08, 2013, 10:05:50 AM
Kieran Gavin had a nasty accident in work last week and was a big loss, hope there's no lasting damage and he makes a quick recovery.
Very nasty indeed. He will be ok for final though and hopefully can lift the Div 2 Cup to add to last years impressive haul of captaining O'Byrne Cup, Sigerson Cup and Westmeath Senior Championship wins.
Strange division this year, lot of evenly matched teams. Strange to see a team lose only their last game and still get promoted with a negative scoring difference. I think next years league will be a lot more clear cut
We saved you Armagh, you owe us one.
Quote from: Dont Matter on April 08, 2013, 11:30:23 PM
We saved you Armagh, you owe us one.
You have McNulty.
Greedy f*ckers. :P
Must do better will be Armagh's motto in the league next year. Donegal should get promoted Armagh should be in the running for the other promotion spot.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 08, 2013, 11:58:31 PM
Must do better will be Armagh's motto in the league next year. Donegal should get promoted Armagh should be in the running for the other promotion spot.
Just never know with Armagh ::)
Quote from: shark on April 08, 2013, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on April 08, 2013, 10:05:50 AM
Kieran Gavin had a nasty accident in work last week and was a big loss, hope there's no lasting damage and he makes a quick recovery.
Very nasty indeed. He will be ok for final though and hopefully can lift the Div 2 Cup to add to last years impressive haul of captaining O'Byrne Cup, Sigerson Cup and Westmeath Senior Championship wins.
Good to hear, presume he doesn't need surgery so, a relief for everyone.
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on April 08, 2013, 11:34:17 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on April 08, 2013, 11:30:23 PM
We saved you Armagh, you owe us one.
You have McNulty.
Greedy f*ckers. :P
We're developing your future manager. I'm sure we'll get a warm welcome up in Crossmaglen next year. Even for Billy.
Quote from: Dont Matter on April 09, 2013, 04:15:13 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on April 08, 2013, 11:34:17 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on April 08, 2013, 11:30:23 PM
We saved you Armagh, you owe us one.
You have McNulty.
Greedy f*ckers. :P
We're developing your future manager. I'm sure we'll get a warm welcome up in Crossmaglen next year. Even for Billy.
Future Kerry player?
Westmeath team named for Sunday. No surprises, although Kieran Gavin misses out through injury.
1. Connaughton
2. McCallum
3. Gaffey
4. Maguire
5. Harte
6. Sharry
7. J.Dolan
8. Heslin
9. Duffy
10. Martin
11. McCormack
12. Egan
13. Corroon
14. Curley
15. Glennon
Westmeath team V Derry:
Connaughton
McCallon, Gaffey, Maguire
Harte, Sharry, J Dolan
Duffy, Heslin,
Egan. C McCormack, Martin
Coroon, C Curley, Glennon
Gavin and Dessie not down to start, if they are fit I'd have both in. Rest of the team as expected.
Maguire has to start on Eoin Bradley, did a great job when he was switched onto him the last day.
Edit: Just beat me to it shark, will Kieran be on the bench?
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on April 24, 2013, 11:56:47 AM
Westmeath team V Derry:
Connaughton
McCallon, Gaffey, Maguire
Harte, Sharry, J Dolan
Duffy, Heslin,
Egan. C McCormack, Martin
Coroon, C Curley, Glennon
Gavin and Dessie not down to start, if they are fit I'd have both in. Rest of the team as expected.
Maguire has to start on Eoin Bradley, did a great job when he was switched onto him the last day.
Edit: Just beat me to it shark, will Kieran be on the bench?
I presume he will be. He played the full 60 minutes club championship on Sunday. He was carrying an injury in to that game though, unrelated to his work accident. That may be why he isn't being risked.
Ah if that's the case then I'd agree with not risking him.
I'm assuming Westmeath have a good few changes from Celtic Park game recently. Think this may be a potential banana skin for Derry. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong tho. The No 6 for Westmeath the last day out looked a fine player. If they bring in a few more like him should strengthen their team.
Quote from: leaveherinsir on April 26, 2013, 11:22:48 PM
I'm assuming Westmeath have a good few changes from Celtic Park game recently. Think this may be a potential banana skin for Derry. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong tho. The No 6 for Westmeath the last day out looked a fine player. If they bring in a few more like him should strengthen their team.
10 changes in personnel from the last day out. 13 of the team picked that lined out in majority of league games. Regular full back and captain Kieran Gavin is injured and wing back Micheál Curley left the panel. Should be a much better contest than in Celtic Park, that's for sure.
Well done to Derry two from two for the Ulster sides can Tyrone make it three?
Dessie might not have the legs anymore, but he has the brain.
Some excellent scores kicked by both sides.
Well done to Derry on their win.
If ever you wanted an example of a scoreline not giving a true reflection, that was it. Not a huge deal for Westmeath to lose it, full focus on Carlow now. Well done Derry.
Strange. When Meath lose a final they usually get the title as consolation.
Quote from: shark on April 28, 2013, 03:45:34 PM
If ever you wanted an example of a scoreline not giving a true reflection, that was it. Not a huge deal for Westmeath to lose it, full focus on Carlow now. Well done Derry.
Wasn't a six point game bad mistake by the Westmeath goalkeeper at the end.
Quote from: Syferus on April 28, 2013, 03:53:06 PM
Strange. When Meath lose a final they usually get the title as consolation.
Wrong thread!
Well done Derry and in particular Brian Mc Iver who has more than turned round the fortunes of a Derry ship that had badly ran aground.
Derry in last year's league were a complete and utter shambles.
Brian has worked marvels again.
Well played Derry, deserved their win. Lacking a bit to challenge in Ulster I think but McIvor on the right track for sure.
Derry were impressive, James Kiellt hit a few great points. Charlie Kielt, Mark Lynch and Patsy Bradley has good games too. Eoin Bradley had a good first half and a very poor second half. Very inconsistent player
It was great game to watch, great scores by both sides. John Heslin showed very well for Westmeath. Still 20, will be some player in a few more years.
Hi guys,
Tactical analysis of Derry's win over Westmeath up here http://action81.com/blog/?p=7172
Emmet
Never a 6 point game is right, we were sure it was going to end in a draw. The starts to the first and the second half cost us. Derry targeted that and made hay in both halves, Eoin Bradley in particular. For some reason Kevin Maguire was a yard behind him but he tightened up as the game progressed. Once we dropped a sweeper in front of them we negated that particular threat. We weren't prepared for the wide man drifting in behind our defence either, which resulted in overlaps. We dragged ourselves back into it through some outstanding points from McCormack, Glennon and Egan. The 3 points conceded before half time and the long wait deflated us for the start of the second. Also we weren't winning enough ball in midfield, both clean and breaking, which was putting us under sustained pressure.
All that said we were there or thereabouts at the end. Dessie gave us some impetuous and we need him on for longer, maybe should look at doing a Canavan with him. Fair play to Derry for sneaking it at the end and it's a good thing the ball was stuck in the net at the end as I don't believe the ball had crossed the line beforehand. Unlike the umpire who had the green flag in the air as the ball hit the net. Lots to take out of that and room for improvement ahead of our first Leinster game in the park in donkeys years.